I get this bizarre nostalgia everytime I hear this song. It must be reminding me of starting this game unaware of how incredible the adventure was going to be. Kudos on this amazing remaster... this is worth every penny.
12, as far as I know, has the indisputably longest plot out of any of the FF (not counting mmo), at least from what I remember of all the ones I played. Most topped at around 50-100, then here stood 12, with a game story that runs 100-200 hours strong. Not every ff fan seems to enjoy 12, in fact there's a huge rift between fans half the time I feel, but even as someone who's been playing them since the super nintendo era, and as someone who doesnt like picking a favorite, 12 is probably the closest I'll come to considering giving the title. Its story is just so much of a differently paced, portrayed, and focused story. It's slower, smaller in scale but grander in its impact - stretching to borders far beyond where you actually walk, and focuses on a tale of political intrigue, the greyness of good intent, and how the same goal can be painted as heroic or villainous based on how it is justified. I think my favorite aspect of it had to be still the fact that the manner the group faces/defeats the false gods isnt beating them in combat through sheer will. It's simply not listening to their orders, working to find their own path. Looking back on it, 12 seemed far more intent on playing with or forgoing tropes and expectations completely. At least when regarding the traditional FF plot route.
@@OsnosisBones Dude, I think you're mistaking the story with the game content. You can beat the story at around 50-60ish hours of gameplay. Now the with the rest of the content (including side-quests, weapons hunting, and the bounties) can make it reach 200hrs+ very easily. I probably dropped more than 1000 hours in the multiple playthroughs I did when I had a PS2. In regards to the story, in my opinion, I feel it has an amazing first half right up until you reach Archades. After that it slowly starts to decline for me. It falls on its face right when you reach Ridorana, the plots gets bloated and very confoluted with the Rozarrian empire taking action and Vaan being the center of choke points in the story while Basch, Ashe or Balthier would've been much more appropriate. Even then I have to agree with you that it has the most impact and most varied themes of all FFs that came before it. I'm very eager to play it again with the Zodiac System :) Cheers, my good sir!
@@AugustoXRock yeah you're correct. main story definitely isnt that long but there is so much side content to do that if you for example do hunts as you unlock them and all the other content, you can get to over 200 hours for sure. My first playthrough of this game (original ps2 version) i clocked 228 hours having completed the sky pirates den and done pretty much everything there was to do. the story is great right up until after mt bur omisace (where you have to head up to arcadia following that). the places you go to and stuff are still amazing but it does seem to lose a bit of momentum and even potentially become a bit confusing. there are hardly any cut scenes as you journey through several areas to get to archadia.
@@OsnosisBones YES absolutely! I wish people didn't blacklist the game it's a really good game and even changed the standards of gameplay. If you think about it all the FF games except for VII and X are hated by the community. That's why I don't bother to talk to them. They are all NUTS!
I like the series of events leading to the arrival at the Balheim passage. Vaan sneaked into the royal palace, Balthier and Fran joined the party, they went to the waterway, Nalbina, and then found Basch. It gives me the feeling that the story has actually begun and there's no turning back. Vaan's daily life turns into the beginning of a long journey.
This is where I had a little respect for Vaan actually listening and understanding, as to what really happened when his brother was killed, two years prior to the game. Basch, or Ashe should have been the lead.
It cannot be done that way (Basch or Ashe being the lead) because of a exposition trick. The Lead has has to be someone who knows less than everyone else. This is so when the people who know more (Basch and Ashe) exposition, it is a dialogue, not a monologue. So, you don't know until Vaan knows, but the people explaining have an in universe reason to.
Yeah I really felt Basch had a better role to play as MC. Since Vaan stopped being relevant during the Bhujerba Arc. The plot was being driven by Basch, Ashe, and Balthier by then.
@@DeeonleeCobb373 I feel Vaan as a protagonist is super relatable, he just is someone ordinary along for the ride, kinda like the player in a sense. FF12 is a case of many main characters in the first place as well, it's all driven and shown by them. They even wanted to make Balthier the main character back then.
Vaan is not the main character, that's Ashe and Basch. But we view the story mainly thru Vaan's eyes, which honestly makes it different, with a good taste of interesting IMO
Right? It could easily pass as a John Williams piece. Holy shit it's so haunting, and could fit in during a ship infiltration cutscene in any Star Wars movie. It's just that damn good!
When I was young, and didn't take the effort to keep up with my levels (running by enemies rather than fighting them), the Barheim zombies FUCKED me so bad 🤣 God, it was such a hassle to get through.
I get this bizarre nostalgia everytime I hear this song. It must be reminding me of starting this game unaware of how incredible the adventure was going to be. Kudos on this amazing remaster... this is worth every penny.
I still can't believe that this was only the first act.
12, as far as I know, has the indisputably longest plot out of any of the FF (not counting mmo), at least from what I remember of all the ones I played. Most topped at around 50-100, then here stood 12, with a game story that runs 100-200 hours strong.
Not every ff fan seems to enjoy 12, in fact there's a huge rift between fans half the time I feel, but even as someone who's been playing them since the super nintendo era, and as someone who doesnt like picking a favorite, 12 is probably the closest I'll come to considering giving the title.
Its story is just so much of a differently paced, portrayed, and focused story.
It's slower, smaller in scale but grander in its impact - stretching to borders far beyond where you actually walk, and focuses on a tale of political intrigue, the greyness of good intent, and how the same goal can be painted as heroic or villainous based on how it is justified.
I think my favorite aspect of it had to be still the fact that the manner the group faces/defeats the false gods isnt beating them in combat through sheer will.
It's simply not listening to their orders, working to find their own path.
Looking back on it, 12 seemed far more intent on playing with or forgoing tropes and expectations completely. At least when regarding the traditional FF plot route.
@@OsnosisBones Dude, I think you're mistaking the story with the game content. You can beat the story at around 50-60ish hours of gameplay. Now the with the rest of the content (including side-quests, weapons hunting, and the bounties) can make it reach 200hrs+ very easily. I probably dropped more than 1000 hours in the multiple playthroughs I did when I had a PS2.
In regards to the story, in my opinion, I feel it has an amazing first half right up until you reach Archades. After that it slowly starts to decline for me. It falls on its face right when you reach Ridorana, the plots gets bloated and very confoluted with the Rozarrian empire taking action and Vaan being the center of choke points in the story while Basch, Ashe or Balthier would've been much more appropriate.
Even then I have to agree with you that it has the most impact and most varied themes of all FFs that came before it.
I'm very eager to play it again with the Zodiac System :)
Cheers, my good sir!
@@AugustoXRock yeah you're correct. main story definitely isnt that long but there is so much side content to do that if you for example do hunts as you unlock them and all the other content, you can get to over 200 hours for sure. My first playthrough of this game (original ps2 version) i clocked 228 hours having completed the sky pirates den and done pretty much everything there was to do. the story is great right up until after mt bur omisace (where you have to head up to arcadia following that). the places you go to and stuff are still amazing but it does seem to lose a bit of momentum and even potentially become a bit confusing. there are hardly any cut scenes as you journey through several areas to get to archadia.
@@OsnosisBones YES absolutely! I wish people didn't blacklist the game it's a really good game and even changed the standards of gameplay. If you think about it all the FF games except for VII and X are hated by the community. That's why I don't bother to talk to them. They are all NUTS!
I like the series of events leading to the arrival at the Balheim passage. Vaan sneaked into the royal palace, Balthier and Fran joined the party, they went to the waterway, Nalbina, and then found Basch. It gives me the feeling that the story has actually begun and there's no turning back. Vaan's daily life turns into the beginning of a long journey.
Hearing final fantasy xii music , especially this one , makes me feel like a child all over again .
place looks like it hasn't been in operation in decades possibly centuries
Aah the memories that i have while playing this game with my sister those were the days
Ah, the reason I feared the dark as a kid.
For me, it started with most of the NES games. A Nightmare on Elm Street had a game too.
So relaxing to watch while meditating❤
Man I love listening to the maps' ost while I work, but I always end up watching the mobs get rekt and forget about life lmao
I fucking love this game = 3= the sense of dread this game gave me when I got to this section was majestic...
1:38 this moment is kinda weird but i like it, there is something that clicks
This is where I had a little respect for Vaan actually listening and understanding, as to what really happened when his brother was killed, two years prior to the game. Basch, or Ashe should have been the lead.
It cannot be done that way (Basch or Ashe being the lead) because of a exposition trick. The Lead has has to be someone who knows less than everyone else. This is so when the people who know more (Basch and Ashe) exposition, it is a dialogue, not a monologue. So, you don't know until Vaan knows, but the people explaining have an in universe reason to.
Yeah I really felt Basch had a better role to play as MC. Since Vaan stopped being relevant during the Bhujerba Arc.
The plot was being driven by Basch, Ashe, and Balthier by then.
@@DeeonleeCobb373 I feel Vaan as a protagonist is super relatable, he just is someone ordinary along for the ride, kinda like the player in a sense. FF12 is a case of many main characters in the first place as well, it's all driven and shown by them. They even wanted to make Balthier the main character back then.
Vaan is not the main character, that's Ashe and Basch. But we view the story mainly thru Vaan's eyes, which honestly makes it different, with a good taste of interesting IMO
@@esteban2 or Balthier trying to remind you that he is the leading man (main character) of this little story
The best game ever!
XII soundtrack sound so much like Star Wars 😊 But that’s a good thing
star wars! love it!
Right? It could easily pass as a John Williams piece. Holy shit it's so haunting, and could fit in during a ship infiltration cutscene in any Star Wars movie. It's just that damn good!
YES
??? This is the Final Fantasy XII soundtrack. You're on the wrong video.
@@Arkansym r/whooosh
When I was young, and didn't take the effort to keep up with my levels (running by enemies rather than fighting them), the Barheim zombies FUCKED me so bad 🤣 God, it was such a hassle to get through.