As Yahtzee put it when describing this game "imagine watching something like, say, Ghost in the Shell, but right before the end you sit on the remote and TV switches over to an episode of Biker Mice from Mars, or Dragon Ball Z where the special guest villain turns out to be Hulk Hogan who goes on about how awesome right-wing policies are for 20 minutes before doing body slams on everyone who disagrees."
More than the Red Hot 100, the first set of really fast punches is actually the exact same animation for the 100 Fists of God in God Hand, including the final gut punch that is supposed to be a launcher! Nice call-back from platinum!
Best part of this LP is how utterly amazing Gen. Ironicus is finding this game. His glee at every over-the-top action sequence is so much fun to listen to.
Honestly I'd vote for Armstrong not because I agree with him but because I'm afraid will happen if I don't. I really don't want to tossed around like a football thank you very much.
Actually, Raiden /does/ have a camera and tape recorder. His holographic memory stored in his left arm. Remember, Doktor made a big deal about those? Every cyborg has them. They record everything the cyborg sees, hears, whatever. Direct link to their brain. So Raiden /could/ just put the footage on the interweb after fighting Armstrong.
Egg Spider is actually a Sonic boss! It's the name of the Ice Mountain Zone boss in Sonic Advance, even though it looks nothing like a spider, just a pod with two walker legs that let it stick to the ceiling and rain icicles down on you. You have to jump on the icicles to get out of the water and hit Eggman,.
@PoliteTimesplitter9- for Bayonetta, may I recommend Yosheque's LP? lparchive.org/Bayonetta/ Sure, she might spend most of the LP playing the "inferior" version (PS3) but she's really good at the game and has great commentary. She's the AccountingNightmare of Platinum Games is what I'm saying.
The worst thing happened to me in this fight. I accidentally released the blade mode button when you have the huge sword and didn't get to cut anything.
I'm not one to explore the political realm in unrelated videos, but seeing how it's partially related, I don't think Armstrong's views are very compatible with any form of libertarianism. Libertarians would say that they support the NAP (Non Agression Principle; do not harm/steal another person or their property) while Armstrong's beliefs are pretty opaque, to say the least. Libertarians definitely wouldn't recognize war as an industry, also I doubt they're for eliminating the weak.
DiseasedMoss Buddhists also preach for non-violence which doesn't stop some Buddhist monks from perpetrating ethnic cleansings. Many extremists are hypocrites.
shinobody True, but you can't even call him a Libertarian extremist. Libertarians want small government, not no government. Armstrong is an anarchy extremist. Really, Raiden feels more Libertarian. (Especially since many libertarians and anarchists admit they agree on certain points. Heck Armstrong's final words remind me of something an anarchist said about libertarians.)
His Archer Libertarians agree with *individualist*, right winged anarchists. Raiden is more of a leftist, social anarchist (think green anarchists, anarchosocialists) since he wants to protect the weak (big difference from individualist anarchists) though radical means, including violence, distrusts government but also corporations and capitalism, and wants to end the culture of complacency and make people take direct action in their lives. Armstrong is more of an anarchocapitalist, since he wants to turn America into a true meritocracy where the "strong" rule. We can agree that Armstrong is sort of right in that both Raiden and Armstrong exemplify Nietchean "Ubermensch" since both reject social norms and craft their own morals. Also, such discussion of anarchism policies makes perfect sense in a cyberpunk game, since cyberpunk genre in general is pretty anarchist.
It might just be me, but I noticed while watching this LP that Armstrong's accent changes from a sorta Texan to... whatever it is now. I prefer the latter accent.
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the football scene. Even for a Platinum/Clover game it's pretty unheard-of to have such a silly scene in the final confrontation. Especially if it's a Metal Gear game. It's great, more games need to have stuff like this.
@@Zakuzelo America had a great economy under Trump. Less regs, less taxes, more money in peoples' pockets. His "sound and fury" made America great to live in, and by extension, helped out the rest of the world. He brought jobs back that Obama said that couldn't be, even if he waived his magic wand. And now we have Biden who is running America into the ground as fast as possible.
Turns out Blade Mode isn't because of Raiden supercharging his fuel cells, but because of lag since he has so many damn tabs open in his browser. Also, of all the features to install within Raiden, wifi was really that much of a priority?
Collective Consciousness is probably my favorite boss theme in the game, and that's saying something because there are a LOT of good boss themes also, Amstrong hits different after 2016
Armstrong suffers from what I like the call the Fight Club Problem. He gets to do so much awesome cool shit that a bunch of people wind up getting blinded by it and miss the point/complete evil fuckballs insanity entirely.
"Also, Platinum Games always have a scene where you punch stuff REALLY FUCKIN' FAST!" Chip's going to be inundated with people asking for Viewtiful Joe and Bayonetta LPs after that line ._.
How do you need to be 'a flaming liberal' for identifying someone talking libertarian rhetoric as a libertarian? It's like insulting someone for noting that someone writing with their left hand is left-handed.
I can see the points he makes, but don't really agree. Still, it is funny to be able to say with confidence that this half robot, batshit insane senator from the seizure inducing raiden spin off probably has the most understandable motives and plans of any post shadow moses main antagonist.
SP3HSSMAHREEN MGS2 and 4's bad guys were already insane right-wing libertarian nutjobs, I feel like Armstrong is a massive parody of that whole side of the MGS universe
@@jessesaunders7043 well yeah, he used a triple negative, it's his fault if people misunderstand him. it's not yours, he communicated badly, no need to apologise
Didn't Raiden stop the Outer Haven ship in MGS4, with nothing but his own body? And that was BEFORE he was upgraded? So Armstrong hits harder than Outer Haven ramming into you - okay.
Re: "tape recorder in neck", isn't Raiden's eye a camera giving the team back home a constant live video feed or something? Seems like they could just record what's being sent to them.
The only way this scene could've been better is if a bald eagle flew over out of nowhere and roost on Armstrong's shoulders while he was smoking that cigar after beating the shit out of Raiden.
1st of... =Eggman voice= Now you meddlesome blue pest allow me to introduce...Metal Gear EGGSCAVTOR!!! And 2nd imagine what you could do with the technology to open up the inter webs with virtual reality implants...you binge watch Netflix, your favorite twitch streamer, and keep up with your favorite you tubers!!
ive just had a thought who actually did attack blade wolf because excelsus was still under the ground and Armstrong hadn't absorbed its nano machines at that point so blade wolf probably would have torn him apart
How could you NOT agree with Armstrong? You can always assume he's lying but what he's saying is right. Maybe they were trying to do the same thing as Kojima did with Solidus in MGS2 where the villain isn't a villain.
"Guys, chek out this fukn awesome kill I just did," Raiden typed, linking his Twitter to a Vine post showing off his battle with Metal Gear Excelsus, (whilst getting his face pounded in by Senator Armstrong.)
So, we have Peace Walker's politician sending a war tank on America to boost conflict in the Cold War and this hetero the economy on the high ground, and now we have Revengeance's politician figure driving a terrorist plot (and a spider tank) against the US and blaming terrorism to kickstart the war economy again to get the US back in an economic boon? I think the overall tagline here is Metal Gear Politics: Extremism.
>deliberately cause war >use of false flags >ethnic cleansing that's totally what libertarians do i'm absolutely in love with this guy, he's so fucking crazy.
That seems pretty close to the 'No True Scotsman" argument, which is a logical fallacy. Armstrong isn't representative of all libertarians, but that doesn't mean he isn't one or can be identified as one. Just like how a religious extremist may not be representative, but saying "he's not a true Muslim/Christian/Hindu/whatever" is a weak and flawed argument.
I'm not sure why people would look at Metal Gear politics and seriously think they are good ideas, or why people would take them seriously at all. Metal Gear politics have always been crazy, and I would like to imagine that it's crazy silly on purpose since that seems to just be how they roll.
Just like how some random person on youtube labeling him a libertarian doesn't automatically make him one. Funny how that works huh? Especially how Armstrong never actually calls himself libertarian, rendering this whole fucking conversation pointless.
They really did a great job capturing the essence of America in Armstrong's little speech there. How many time did I heard Americans say "Because... Because we are no 1 so shut the hell up" over the years. I just love they him so close to reality.
After seeing that mech, I wonder who the president is for them to need something like that... I'm not gonna say it might be Hank Hill, but...it's probably Hank Hill
There's that three-note tune that keeps cropping up throughout the game. The cut from Sunny to black at the very end, for instance. Fifty seconds into the main title theme. If you listen closely to the instrumental version, it's even in It Has To Be This Way's first verse. And at 14:20, Raiden checks his chin and, when he realizes he wasn't hit, _it plays that damn tune_.
As Yahtzee put it when describing this game
"imagine watching something like, say, Ghost in the Shell, but right before the end you sit on the remote and TV switches over to an episode of Biker Mice from Mars, or Dragon Ball Z where the special guest villain turns out to be Hulk Hogan who goes on about how awesome right-wing policies are for 20 minutes before doing body slams on everyone who disagrees."
More than the Red Hot 100, the first set of really fast punches is actually the exact same animation for the 100 Fists of God in God Hand, including the final gut punch that is supposed to be a launcher! Nice call-back from platinum!
"We're not out to harm civilians."
What about the orphans who you kidnapped and ripped the brains out of? :|
Best part of this LP is how utterly amazing Gen. Ironicus is finding this game. His glee at every over-the-top action sequence is so much fun to listen to.
17:35 "make america great again" by the lunatic senator lol. MGR called it in 2013
Yeah. not American, so hard to know, but did anyone ever ask him if he'd played this game?
It was originally a Reagan Slogan
Honestly I'd vote for Armstrong not because I agree with him but because I'm afraid will happen if I don't. I really don't want to tossed around like a football thank you very much.
18:10 - When Armstrong says 'Not for money, not for oil', as a continuation of that I reflexively sang out 'Not for honour, but for yoooooou'.
Actually, Raiden /does/ have a camera and tape recorder. His holographic memory stored in his left arm. Remember, Doktor made a big deal about those? Every cyborg has them. They record everything the cyborg sees, hears, whatever. Direct link to their brain. So Raiden /could/ just put the footage on the interweb after fighting Armstrong.
After punching bit.
Raiden"Omae wa mo shindeiru"
Armstrong "Yeah,no."
I think Excelsus looks more like an Ant, than any arachnid. The head and antennae make me think so.
I still love how the robot roars.
Of course its nanomachines !
thats the awnser to almost everything in the metal gear universe
***** Everything's either nanomachines, memes, or nuclear deterrence.
NUCLEAR NANOMEMES
Egg Spider is actually a Sonic boss! It's the name of the Ice Mountain Zone boss in Sonic Advance, even though it looks nothing like a spider, just a pod with two walker legs that let it stick to the ceiling and rain icicles down on you. You have to jump on the icicles to get out of the water and hit Eggman,.
@PoliteTimesplitter9- for Bayonetta, may I recommend Yosheque's LP? lparchive.org/Bayonetta/ Sure, she might spend most of the LP playing the "inferior" version (PS3) but she's really good at the game and has great commentary. She's the AccountingNightmare of Platinum Games is what I'm saying.
Spider bot looks more like Ant bot. The guns are feelers. Also poor dog shaped robot buddy.
No, no, see, they did that, but they didn't set out to do that. Therefore, they're not hypocrites. That's just science.
The worst thing happened to me in this fight. I accidentally released the blade mode button when you have the huge sword and didn't get to cut anything.
............so basically Senator Armstrong wants to make Outer Heaven?
Yes, but not just for Soldiers, but EVERYONE. Essentially, he wants to turn America into Hokuto no Mad Max.
I'm not one to explore the political realm in unrelated videos, but seeing how it's partially related, I don't think Armstrong's views are very compatible with any form of libertarianism. Libertarians would say that they support the NAP (Non Agression Principle; do not harm/steal another person or their property) while Armstrong's beliefs are pretty opaque, to say the least. Libertarians definitely wouldn't recognize war as an industry, also I doubt they're for eliminating the weak.
Also, we don't use Somalia as an example because Somalia isn't Libertarian at all.
DiseasedMoss Buddhists also preach for non-violence which doesn't stop some Buddhist monks from perpetrating ethnic cleansings. Many extremists are hypocrites.
shinobody
True, but you can't even call him a Libertarian extremist. Libertarians want small government, not no government. Armstrong is an anarchy extremist. Really, Raiden feels more Libertarian. (Especially since many libertarians and anarchists admit they agree on certain points. Heck Armstrong's final words remind me of something an anarchist said about libertarians.)
His Archer Libertarians agree with *individualist*, right winged anarchists. Raiden is more of a leftist, social anarchist (think green anarchists, anarchosocialists) since he wants to protect the weak (big difference from individualist anarchists) though radical means, including violence, distrusts government but also corporations and capitalism, and wants to end the culture of complacency and make people take direct action in their lives.
Armstrong is more of an anarchocapitalist, since he wants to turn America into a true meritocracy where the "strong" rule.
We can agree that Armstrong is sort of right in that both Raiden and Armstrong exemplify Nietchean "Ubermensch" since both reject social norms and craft their own morals.
Also, such discussion of anarchism policies makes perfect sense in a cyberpunk game, since cyberpunk genre in general is pretty anarchist.
Interesting perspective, but isn't "anachosocialism" an oxymoron? I mean, anarchy is lack of government, while socialism is strong government, right?
I thought the meme Monsoon left was "Jack's back."
I wonder of John Peters helped produce this game.
It would explain the giant fucking spider in the third act.
I'm glad there's a game where you get to fight Donald Trump as the final boss
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!! But Armstrong really isn't like Trump at all
ForeverTheSickestGamer
yeah, I could beat up Trump, but Armstrong, not so much.
+ForeverTheSickestGamer Well Armstrong makes a few good points. The problem is that he's insane. Trump is just an asshole.
Ayanda Nxumalo No, Armstrong really doesn't make "a few good points"
ForeverTheSickestGamer But... But...
Darn you and your cliff hangers! Xp
NANOMACHINES, SON BLAT BLAT ROLL EM
My guess is the Lasers are powerful enough to cut through rock.
But then again your interpretation is more awesome so I'm okay being wrong.
It might just be me, but I noticed while watching this LP that Armstrong's accent changes from a sorta Texan to... whatever it is now. I prefer the latter accent.
Actually the double punch is a karate move
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the football scene. Even for a Platinum/Clover game it's pretty unheard-of to have such a silly scene in the final confrontation. Especially if it's a Metal Gear game.
It's great, more games need to have stuff like this.
it's silly BECAUSE it's Metal Gear!
This would be MGS subtle jokes but amplified by a thousand.
Its great, I need moar
oh....oh shit we're living in this timeline.
Dude, I *wish*.
Armstrong was a prescient notion. He's exactly what the alt-right think they are.
Bull. Armstrong's got a dream and a plan to get there, Trump's got an ego and a bunch of sound and fury signifying nothing. They're nothing alike.
@@Zakuzelo America had a great economy under Trump. Less regs, less taxes, more money in peoples' pockets. His "sound and fury" made America great to live in, and by extension, helped out the rest of the world. He brought jobs back that Obama said that couldn't be, even if he waived his magic wand. And now we have Biden who is running America into the ground as fast as possible.
@@RezaQin It's funny that you are exactly the kind of brainwashed sheep Armstrong was talking about.
Turns out Blade Mode isn't because of Raiden supercharging his fuel cells, but because of lag since he has so many damn tabs open in his browser.
Also, of all the features to install within Raiden, wifi was really that much of a priority?
well, you know, you've already got his head open and broadcom chips are cheap, why not?
Collective Consciousness is probably my favorite boss theme in the game, and that's saying something because there are a LOT of good boss themes
also, Amstrong hits different after 2016
I'd love to be able to play as Unarmed Raiden for the entire game.
THE MEMES?!
Watching this towards the end of 2020: 'Holy shit. This is entirely too damn real for comfort.'
Personally, the first name to come to my mind was Egg-Quadraxis.
Quadraxis is metroid not sonic
Metal Gear EGG
Are they doing ANY damage to eachother?
Armstrong suffers from what I like the call the Fight Club Problem. He gets to do so much awesome cool shit that a bunch of people wind up getting blinded by it and miss the point/complete evil fuckballs insanity entirely.
"Also, Platinum Games always have a scene where you punch stuff REALLY FUCKIN' FAST!"
Chip's going to be inundated with people asking for Viewtiful Joe and Bayonetta LPs after that line ._.
Christ, watching this post-trump is weird as fuck. I mean, for god's sake he even quotes MAGA.
Make America Great Again huh
I'm from the future, the year 2022, and Armstrong speech goes wild with that perspective, lol
"Let loose the flames of justice!"
Did this game turn into Metal Wolf Chaos when I wasn't looking?
They should just rename the entire Metal Gear series to "Nanomachines, son."
I love how completely insane the game becomes during the final half-hour.
Nothing can mentally prepare you for this boss fight.
Nothing
Ok who do you want for president in 2020? Current president Donald Trump or Senator Steven Armstrong?
How do you need to be 'a flaming liberal' for identifying someone talking libertarian rhetoric as a libertarian? It's like insulting someone for noting that someone writing with their left hand is left-handed.
Can someone make a gif of Armstrong throwing Raiden into the air before kicking him?
i wish raiden would have use that other blade in his sheath, first time through i was like 'use the other sword god dammit
Otacon may be getting different women every week, but he's jealous of Raiden's ability to live in animes.
HE WAS RIGHT
wait, people actually AGREE with Armstrong? wait, what... I just...
In metal gear land he's the only person that's come up with a plan that could work, in the real world he'd be horrible though.
His ideals in a way could be agreed with. No one agrees with his methods. No one sane, anyway...
and thus, senator armstrong describes almost all of the wacky, crazy shit that happens in the metal gear solid universe: "Nanomachines, son."
Wow guys, let's discuss political ideals in a fuckin Metal Gear game .-.
I agree, partially, with Armstrong. I'm not offended by Chip and Ironicus opinions or the raving idiots on my side of the argument.
elaborate
lkim100
Nope.
xgermanxloverx good move
I can see the points he makes, but don't really agree. Still, it is funny to be able to say with confidence that this half robot, batshit insane senator from the seizure inducing raiden spin off probably has the most understandable motives and plans of any post shadow moses main antagonist.
SP3HSSMAHREEN MGS2 and 4's bad guys were already insane right-wing libertarian nutjobs, I feel like Armstrong is a massive parody of that whole side of the MGS universe
13:20 Okay, I know that the Uncut Commentary exists for a reason, but I'm kinda upset this wasn't in the regular non-uncut version of this video.
Jesse Saunders No it's not. Chip's line isn't in the non-uncut video.
Sorry I misread your comment
@@jessesaunders7043 well yeah, he used a triple negative, it's his fault if people misunderstand him. it's not yours, he communicated badly, no need to apologise
I have a perfect name for the boss in this level if it was a Sonic boss!
The Egg-rachnid.
Excelsus clearly has six legs arachnids have eight legs
Didn't Raiden stop the Outer Haven ship in MGS4, with nothing but his own body?
And that was BEFORE he was upgraded?
So Armstrong hits harder than Outer Haven ramming into you - okay.
PokeMaster22222 Nanomachines, son.
Re: "tape recorder in neck", isn't Raiden's eye a camera giving the team back home a constant live video feed or something? Seems like they could just record what's being sent to them.
What is in the lunchmeat over at UT? God damn..
The only way this scene could've been better is if a bald eagle flew over out of nowhere and roost on Armstrong's shoulders while he was smoking that cigar after beating the shit out of Raiden.
1st of... =Eggman voice= Now you meddlesome blue pest allow me to introduce...Metal Gear EGGSCAVTOR!!! And 2nd imagine what you could do with the technology to open up the inter webs with virtual reality implants...you binge watch Netflix, your favorite twitch streamer, and keep up with your favorite you tubers!!
*off
ive just had a thought who actually did attack blade wolf because excelsus was still under the ground and Armstrong hadn't absorbed its nano machines at that point so blade wolf probably would have torn him apart
How could you NOT agree with Armstrong? You can always assume he's lying but what he's saying is right. Maybe they were trying to do the same thing as Kojima did with Solidus in MGS2 where the villain isn't a villain.
"Guys, chek out this fukn awesome kill I just did," Raiden typed, linking his Twitter to a Vine post showing off his battle with Metal Gear Excelsus, (whilst getting his face pounded in by Senator Armstrong.)
3:15 9/11 in a nutshell.
jet fuel can't melt steel memes
I find it hard to believe that this game's going to let dog shaped robot buddy die considering WE FIXED HIM AFTER HE BLEW UP INTO A MILLION PIECES!
He sure does.
But can Greed use POWAH WAYVS!? What about POWAH GAYZERS!?
I thought not.
So, we have Peace Walker's politician sending a war tank on America to boost conflict in the Cold War and this hetero the economy on the high ground, and now we have Revengeance's politician figure driving a terrorist plot (and a spider tank) against the US and blaming terrorism to kickstart the war economy again to get the US back in an economic boon?
I think the overall tagline here is Metal Gear Politics: Extremism.
>deliberately cause war
>use of false flags
>ethnic cleansing
that's totally what libertarians do
i'm absolutely in love with this guy, he's so fucking crazy.
That seems pretty close to the 'No True Scotsman" argument, which is a logical fallacy. Armstrong isn't representative of all libertarians, but that doesn't mean he isn't one or can be identified as one. Just like how a religious extremist may not be representative, but saying "he's not a true Muslim/Christian/Hindu/whatever" is a weak and flawed argument.
I'm not sure why people would look at Metal Gear politics and seriously think they are good ideas, or why people would take them seriously at all. Metal Gear politics have always been crazy, and I would like to imagine that it's crazy silly on purpose since that seems to just be how they roll.
Just like how some random person on youtube labeling him a libertarian doesn't automatically make him one. Funny how that works huh? Especially how Armstrong never actually calls himself libertarian, rendering this whole fucking conversation pointless.
They really did a great job capturing the essence of America in Armstrong's little speech there. How many time did I heard Americans say "Because... Because we are no 1 so shut the hell up" over the years.
I just love they him so close to reality.
I just beat Deus Ex Human Revolution before watching this. The immense difference in subtlety of the message was nearly overwhelming.
Around 2:46 it would be hilarious if as the camera shifts to a new screen you see porn tab and raiden desperately tries to close it.
10:40 this game is far too serious.
After seeing that mech, I wonder who the president is for them to need something like that... I'm not gonna say it might be Hank Hill, but...it's probably Hank Hill
Ironicus' unabashed glee at the final boss fight(s) is just glorious.
Darn..I..I love those people dying! :-D
"Armstrong isn't a libertarian. I'm not going to give any examples to back up my point but you just gotta believe me, he's not a ~true libertarian~"
Ever noticed Raiden has a thing about fighting roided up politicians? I mean, Solidus was the ex president...
Okay, i'm sorry but Kojima really, REALLY does not know how to write about politics, ethics, philosophy, economics, anything really. I mean, WOW.
Armstrong managed to summarize Metal Gear past MG2 in two words: Nanomachines, son.
Armstrong looks more like LBJ than Dick Cheney
So Armstrong has the same powers as Greed from Full Metal Alchemist.
"they'll make America great again" We in 2016: cool
I for one would like to know how Excelsus can dig through concrete without so much as a drill. Maybe Armstrong just punches tunnels for it.
I know all the Michael Bay action set pieces are as big and dumb as the nu metal score, but damn, that was AWESOME!
Man, I can't wait for the next part! Metal Gear Rising is one of the only games where I think that the final boss is the best boss in the game
i wanted dog shaped robot buddy to disassemble into armor like rush in megaman
god that would have been awesome
Eesh, I'm no stranger to Metal Gear's ridiculously badass politicians, but holy fuck and mighty SHIT, Armstrong!
So Armstrong pretty much exemplifies America.
Why has noone sanctioned the fuck out of that place again ?
So why did you bother buying the game then? I picked it up and am still going to play the shit out of it.
Do you know what a sword needs to be made out of in order to cut nano machines? Micro machines.
Why do everybofy say Excelsus looks like a spider? It more resembles a Mantis.
It more resembles that giant thing from wild wild west...
Oh. Well never fucking mind. He`s got the right ideas... up tot he "rebuild America" part.
I love how the game turned into a Bugs Bunny cartoon as soon as Armstrong showed up.
There's that three-note tune that keeps cropping up throughout the game. The cut from Sunny to black at the very end, for instance. Fifty seconds into the main title theme. If you listen closely to the instrumental version, it's even in It Has To Be This Way's first verse. And at 14:20, Raiden checks his chin and, when he realizes he wasn't hit, _it plays that damn tune_.
There is nothing his high-frequency blade cannot cut!