Love the production quality, the sound, the jokes, amazing! Cannot believe you made this video just with the two of you. Great work Jason, if you come again to Indonesia please make a workshop/seminar of how to do this amazing work! Take care J&V :) Btw just bought A6700 and so happy with it especially the lens option now is so good.
The Sony ZV-E1 should have been released with these two bodies but called the Sony A7C S since it directly takes from the A7S III but in a more compact form factor (same body as these new A7C II/R if I'm not mistaken) and then Sony would have had one of the most craziest body launches in history!
@@RamTengridoubt it. Sony will probably discontinue the A7s to continue their cinema line. You can clearly see that with the fact fx series are getting really good firmware updates while a7sIII has been left unloved.
i can't wait, these look SO nice. I have the OG 7c and absolutely love it. It's an amazing camera. I'm stoked they're updating the line and continuing it!
Great video! I was on the cusp of getting an a6700 but now conflicted! Would love to see a comparison of a6700 and a7CII. If I went full frame, I'd prob use aps-c lenses occasionally for travel, so comparing a7CII in crop mode and a6700 with the same lens would be super interesting to me! Enjoying the channel.
@@lucashome It's leagues ahead if you ignore the atrocious rolling shutter for video. It's even worse than the rolling shutter on the a7c. No cinema line camera will use the 33mp a7iv sensor because of this.
@@RiposteThis Just use the right tool for the right job. Use the A1 if rolling shutter is an issue, or a Komodo. Also, most people don't even know there's a pan speed limit depending on frame rate and focal length. Even global shutter sensors can't fix bad techniques. Not to mention 1 or 2 whip pans is fine, but if you exclusively need whip pans, something is terribly wrong with the directing.
Get an A7CR then - you get 26mp crop mode, which basically means you get all the functionality of an A6700 out of the A7CR (albeit at a much higher cost). I went from an A7R (1st gen) and a A6000 to a A7R IV replacing both and its a perfect "two birds with one stone" camera if you shoot both APSC and FF with Sony lenses. If you shoot crop mode with a 33mp sensor (as in the A7C II) you only get 15mp - which whilst enough is going to be noticeably worse than the a6700 or even the older 24mp A6xxx cameras.
Very detailed, entertaining, and engaging video. The production quality in this is really getting pretty good. No one has gone through video as detailed as that.
"the Vong" lol thanks for the breakdown. I'll be sticking with my zve1 for video but these seem interesting if I want to add a photo geared camera to my lineup one day!
I picked up the A7c as my first Sony Camera in years and it was a blast to use. Super excited for these updated cameras and honestly thinking of picking one up. Which one though ... hmmmmm. Love this video guys! So much information and entertainment value to the max hah. The IBIS is nuts with those shots at 1 second. Bummed about the video specs though. Overall loved the video and info. Keep it up!
Great to watch this finally released first view on the new A7CII and A7CR, great in-depth look into the 4K-60 conundrum! I like Vivian’s announcements in each of the review categories😊 Hope to hear a bit more about over heating test results in a future in-depth review. Also, I know battery life is taking a HUGE hit (540/510 CIPA vs. 740/680 CIPA in the original A7C) which is both expected but still disappointing. Would also be interested to know if A7C2 suffers from what some users have complained about noise in shadow details and also not as sharp eye AF when using wide open apertures as the A7IV? Finally, do you think it’s worth upgrading from the original A7C to A7C2 for photography?
As part of the Vong throng, I'm always looking here to see what's new. Pleased to see this. I did add an A6700 and am exploring the hybrid side of things so like that it's a different point of view compared to some of the strongly stills oriented side with so many others. Good job!
On the a7cii, when you go into apsc mode and activate clear image zoom, does it still maintain eye autofocus like when you do clear image in full frame mode?
Looking too buy a camera for Content Creation jobs for brands, music artists and more...need a solid hybrid camera which performs well in all situations for video (low light etc...) but also want the option to be able to shoot photos on it as well for things such as cover images, carousels for IG...what would you recommend? Currently torn between the A7Cii and the ZV-E1...At the moment I'm leaning towards the A7Cii because it has a view finder and if I get some wedding gigs this may be super helpful when capturing photos.... Would love to hears thoughts opinions or even another camera option which may work better for that hybrid set up!
These two new cameras honestly make the a6700 more attractive just for the 4k 120. Just a little sad to see them crippling the feature set on the a7cR. Personally I'd go for the a6700 or the a7rV
Hi Jason. I've been watching your channel for a long time. You are doing a great job. I would like to ask if you are going to release a Setup Guide for the A7CII like you previously released a guide for the A7IV? This would be very helpful.
Hi again, Jason!! Your content is amazing, my first stop for Sony “reviewtainment” !! We could not ask for more, other than encouraging you an Vivian to keep doing such a great work. I was really looking forward to buy the A7CII since I wanted the compact form factor. But here in Mexico we recently had great promotions during HotSale (think BlackFriday in steroids) and bought the A7IV with kit lens for some 16 hundred. My plan was to resell new to get this A7CII, but at 2,2K now does not make much sense. Best regards and come visit Mexico.
This is an extremely entertaining and informative video about what could easily have been a pretty confusing comparison (just see how some other reviewers got tripped up with the names). Thanks for going all out on this
Super, super interested in whether one or both of these can make the most of crop mode to use APS-C glass. I'd love a deep dive into how cropped A7CR compares to the 6000-series 24mp APS-C. And of course - @jason, does the A7CR finally replace the RX1R-II?
How the 4k 60p in crop factor mode on the a7cII compare to 4k 60p on a FX30/a6700 when regarding low light? are they virtually the same or a FF sensor is still better even in crop mode?
I won't pretend to know the answer but theoricaly speaking, since an A7CII has less pixels in its crop factor mode than a A6700 each pixel should take more space therefor have more light and have a tiny adventage I guess.
6:29 That expression and look got me crying lol hahah! but amazing contents you produced @jason vong and yeah I am Michael with the big hands but love to buy this mark ii soon 😁
Was wondering if you will be doing a setup guide for a7cii and a7cr like you have done for other cameras? Thanks again channel is amazing keep them coming. 👏👍
Nice review. Very comprehensive. One correction... Doubling the pixel count does not double the resolution. You need 4x the pixel count for that...assuming the lens and shooting technique can deliver the detail.
As a hybrid shooter I feel a6700 offer a better value for VDO. For still these two cameras are superior for being ff. Though, not many people would be able to tell them apart anyway on social media.
OMG HYPE! Haven't watched the video yet and won't get the A7Cii anyways, due to price, but I love the idea of the compact FF so I'm very excited about these releases!
update: wow I'm really surprised it doesn't even have 4k60 no crop, after that a6700 release I thought that would be the minimum the A7Cii would get. Oterhwise it really is perfect. Now hoping for good used A7C deals myself :)
Jason, I'm still not sure which one to buy to replace my existing A7c. I care more about still image quality vs Video, but weighting the high ISO performance of the cII vs the megapixels of the R. Is there anything else to the R which makes it a better still camera? Does it have more DR or do I just get more pixels to crop for my extra $800?
Love the production quality, the sound, the jokes, amazing! Cannot believe you made this video just with the two of you. Great work Jason, if you come again to Indonesia please make a workshop/seminar of how to do this amazing work! Take care J&V :)
Btw just bought A6700 and so happy with it especially the lens option now is so good.
If I was going to carry something around that is as heavy as the a6700 I would carry a full frame, the a7c.
How is it holding? Is it good with stills like it is with video? I wonder because I am looking for a budget friendly but good quality video camera.
My wallet ...
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Feels like >>>😢😢😢
😂 Same....
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Watched most reviews on the a7cii and this is by far the most detailed! Thanks for the hard work!
The Sony ZV-E1 should have been released with these two bodies but called the Sony A7C S since it directly takes from the A7S III but in a more compact form factor (same body as these new A7C II/R if I'm not mistaken) and then Sony would have had one of the most craziest body launches in history!
Makes me wonder if an A7sIV is coming soon with A7cS following?!?!
@@RamTengridoubt it. Sony will probably discontinue the A7s to continue their cinema line. You can clearly see that with the fact fx series are getting really good firmware updates while a7sIII has been left unloved.
No camera
Thanks!
i can't wait, these look SO nice. I have the OG 7c and absolutely love it. It's an amazing camera. I'm stoked they're updating the line and continuing it!
Hey Jason, I'm loving the new look / feel of these videos ! great job.
Just 1 question - SONY ZV-E1 vs A7C 2 ?
Need an a6700 vs a7c ii video asap. Great video as always Jason
Which one recomended?
Production quality just got to another level, well done mate!
thanks Alan!
the chapter transitions are such a fun touch to your videos haha
I love professor VONG - he should be a regular segment !
I love your new high octane editing style. Really differentiates your channel! Love the growth!
Great video! I was on the cusp of getting an a6700 but now conflicted! Would love to see a comparison of a6700 and a7CII. If I went full frame, I'd prob use aps-c lenses occasionally for travel, so comparing a7CII in crop mode and a6700 with the same lens would be super interesting to me! Enjoying the channel.
Go with the a6700 , then eventually to full
A7cii is leagues ahead. I have an A7c and shot some of my music videos on it if you want to see what the first one is capable of
@@lucashome It's leagues ahead if you ignore the atrocious rolling shutter for video. It's even worse than the rolling shutter on the a7c. No cinema line camera will use the 33mp a7iv sensor because of this.
@@RiposteThis Just use the right tool for the right job. Use the A1 if rolling shutter is an issue, or a Komodo. Also, most people don't even know there's a pan speed limit depending on frame rate and focal length. Even global shutter sensors can't fix bad techniques. Not to mention 1 or 2 whip pans is fine, but if you exclusively need whip pans, something is terribly wrong with the directing.
Get an A7CR then - you get 26mp crop mode, which basically means you get all the functionality of an A6700 out of the A7CR (albeit at a much higher cost).
I went from an A7R (1st gen) and a A6000 to a A7R IV replacing both and its a perfect "two birds with one stone" camera if you shoot both APSC and FF with Sony lenses.
If you shoot crop mode with a 33mp sensor (as in the A7C II) you only get 15mp - which whilst enough is going to be noticeably worse than the a6700 or even the older 24mp A6xxx cameras.
Thanks for making this video! Really glad I got my ZV-E1 and will be sticking with it 🔥
Very detailed, entertaining, and engaging video. The production quality in this is really getting pretty good. No one has gone through video as detailed as that.
You CRUSHED this review! Well done!
Hi, I have a question. Can you tell me what kind of camera tripod is that you can mount it so quickly by turning the heads? 10:20 -10-40min
You make the best videos! Always first to watch for new gear releases :D
Hi Jason, super video, what viewer do you Need (at 10:41)?
Imaging Edge Desktop!
Always informative and entertaining 🙂 Cheers Jason!
Well done video explaining the features, benefits, and differences in each camera.
Finally!! Great video Jason!
Have you done a comparison between a7ii and a6700? Would love to know as a hybrid shooter
Fantastic video and it was great seeing you at Kando
Your videos are always so fun and entertaining. Thanks! Really enjoy watching them.
Great Scott!!!!! Vong came through with the most entertaining coverage of the A7C lineup this year!
"the Vong" lol thanks for the breakdown. I'll be sticking with my zve1 for video but these seem interesting if I want to add a photo geared camera to my lineup one day!
Incredible editing. Been watching your videos for a while, but this was just above and beyond. Earned a subscribe from me!
Thank you!!
I'll just go hug my a6400 after watching this this video😅
You've become my favourite reviewer. Great job: detailed, entertaining and funny to watch. I was hooked
Always enjoyed your video mate. Keep it up!
Where did you get the Sony phone camera mount at 7:04?
1:28 do you have a recommendation for hard drives used for photo/video storage? SSD vs HDD?
WOW! You're good at this. Great video!
I picked up the A7c as my first Sony Camera in years and it was a blast to use. Super excited for these updated cameras and honestly thinking of picking one up. Which one though ... hmmmmm.
Love this video guys! So much information and entertainment value to the max hah. The IBIS is nuts with those shots at 1 second. Bummed about the video specs though.
Overall loved the video and info. Keep it up!
4K 60p on the a7c II limits you to apsc mode??? That's a big disappointment! Thanks for highlighting this! Other reviews didn't mention this.
What’s the Viewer app at 9:30 ?
Man aside of all that camera goodness, i kept listening to your intro on loop. It is awesome 😂❤
I am laughing HISTERICALLY in the car, with my husband, watching you. Like CRYING. I have never seen ever in my life a full YT video so long. Genius
Great to watch this finally released first view on the new A7CII and A7CR, great in-depth look into the 4K-60 conundrum! I like Vivian’s announcements in each of the review categories😊 Hope to hear a bit more about over heating test results in a future in-depth review. Also, I know battery life is taking a HUGE hit (540/510 CIPA vs. 740/680 CIPA in the original A7C) which is both expected but still disappointing. Would also be interested to know if A7C2 suffers from what some users have complained about noise in shadow details and also not as sharp eye AF when using wide open apertures as the A7IV? Finally, do you think it’s worth upgrading from the original A7C to A7C2 for photography?
I'm so hype for this update, damn love the a7C series and your videos.
Love all of your videos! They are complete!🎉
great video jason! cameras don’t feel too convincing for me but I can see the use for them!
Jason, can you please do a comparison video on the a6700 vs a7CR please?
As part of the Vong throng, I'm always looking here to see what's new. Pleased to see this. I did add an A6700 and am exploring the hybrid side of things so like that it's a different point of view compared to some of the strongly stills oriented side with so many others. Good job!
seems like the a6700 is a better value to me
If it was in stock somewhere 😂
@@fotomotoxxiii glad i preordered a6700. didn't know it would be so popular.
This is a ff a6700, with more mp, I guess
You keep them coming!!! How do you do it?! Series love your reviews as of late. Slaying!! 😎 Good work!
Jason. As always your videos are entertaining and useful. Keep up the great work both of you!
Great and fun review !!
On the a7cii, when you go into apsc mode and activate clear image zoom, does it still maintain eye autofocus like when you do clear image in full frame mode?
Looking too buy a camera for Content Creation jobs for brands, music artists and more...need a solid hybrid camera which performs well in all situations for video (low light etc...) but also want the option to be able to shoot photos on it as well for things such as cover images, carousels for IG...what would you recommend? Currently torn between the A7Cii and the ZV-E1...At the moment I'm leaning towards the A7Cii because it has a view finder and if I get some wedding gigs this may be super helpful when capturing photos....
Would love to hears thoughts opinions or even another camera option which may work better for that hybrid set up!
That 4K60 crop on the A7IV is one of the big reasons I got the R6 II instead (plus the better body, LCD and faster FPS on the Canon)
if Canon opens rf mount， id say compare to r6ii， the a7m4 is just garbage.
Great video with details ❤
Great editing!
Which one would you recommend for beginner?
Excellent video! Very informative & entertaining,too. Vivian is great!
These two new cameras honestly make the a6700 more attractive just for the 4k 120. Just a little sad to see them crippling the feature set on the a7cR.
Personally I'd go for the a6700 or the a7rV
AFAIC, the A6700 is more appealing to me, given the prices. Ouch!
Hi Jason. I've been watching your channel for a long time. You are doing a great job. I would like to ask if you are going to release a Setup Guide for the A7CII like you previously released a guide for the A7IV? This would be very helpful.
a7c2Can this camera be used for wedding photography?
Hi again, Jason!!
Your content is amazing, my first stop for Sony “reviewtainment” !!
We could not ask for more, other than encouraging you an Vivian to keep doing such a great work.
I was really looking forward to buy the A7CII since I wanted the compact form factor.
But here in Mexico we recently had great promotions during HotSale (think BlackFriday in steroids) and bought the A7IV with kit lens for some 16 hundred.
My plan was to resell new to get this A7CII, but at 2,2K now does not make much sense.
Best regards and come visit Mexico.
How would you compare the a7c ii with the A6700?
This is an extremely entertaining and informative video about what could easily have been a pretty confusing comparison (just see how some other reviewers got tripped up with the names). Thanks for going all out on this
Awesome job guys!!!!
You have the best 7C comparison video. Both informative and entertaining. Great job. Maybe the new Fuji 100II next?
Super, super interested in whether one or both of these can make the most of crop mode to use APS-C glass. I'd love a deep dive into how cropped A7CR compares to the 6000-series 24mp APS-C. And of course - @jason, does the A7CR finally replace the RX1R-II?
Sony needs to crop to m43 so i can use all my excellent Leica glass rather than spend fortune on new FE glass
How the 4k 60p in crop factor mode on the a7cII compare to 4k 60p on a FX30/a6700 when regarding low light? are they virtually the same or a FF sensor is still better even in crop mode?
Great question… can anyone chime in?
I won't pretend to know the answer but theoricaly speaking, since an A7CII has less pixels in its crop factor mode than a A6700 each pixel should take more space therefor have more light and have a tiny adventage I guess.
I'm interested in low light specifically Milky Way shots how does it perform there?
6:29 That expression and look got me crying lol hahah! but amazing contents you produced @jason vong and yeah I am Michael with the big hands but love to buy this mark ii soon 😁
Could you use the A7CR for professional use or pay a little more and get the A7r5
So much fun & all the details we need! 🎉
Brilliant Video as usual!
Where is the Mark II branding on the 7C II?
Jason, thanks for the video. You made it fun to watch and still a very comprehensive report. thanks!
Was wondering if you will be doing a setup guide for a7cii and a7cr like you have done for other cameras? Thanks again channel is amazing keep them coming. 👏👍
what a video man. This is what I was looking. side by side image comparssion.
This is why I'm subscribed to Jason for so many years now, because of his style (informative and comedic way) 😍
Your production quality went through the roof! 😮
dope video bro
Wich one it’s better on low light Sony A7Cll or A7cr?
Nice review. Very comprehensive. One correction...
Doubling the pixel count does not double the resolution. You need 4x the pixel count for that...assuming the lens and shooting technique can deliver the detail.
How are you using the phone as a screen?
As a hybrid shooter I feel a6700 offer a better value for VDO. For still these two cameras are superior for being ff. Though, not many people would be able to tell them apart anyway on social media.
Went with the A7CR! ❤
Hi bro is the ai tracking face detection for video working when connected to an external monitor
Thanks Jason. As always great info and reviews. I just picked up the A7Cii. Do you know if you can get photos from your 4K video you take?
What would you recommend if I just want to take good portrait picture? Which Sony camera I should buy? Thanks
OMG HYPE! Haven't watched the video yet and won't get the A7Cii anyways, due to price, but I love the idea of the compact FF so I'm very excited about these releases!
update: wow I'm really surprised it doesn't even have 4k60 no crop, after that a6700 release I thought that would be the minimum the A7Cii would get. Oterhwise it really is perfect. Now hoping for good used A7C deals myself :)
jason im always enjoy your video, the first channel that come up in my mind if sony release the new product
I’m trying to buy the A7IV for hybrid will you recommend or what you recommend ?
Jason, I'm still not sure which one to buy to replace my existing A7c. I care more about still image quality vs Video, but weighting the high ISO performance of the cII vs the megapixels of the R. Is there anything else to the R which makes it a better still camera? Does it have more DR or do I just get more pixels to crop for my extra $800?
just keep your a7c
But ZV-E1 overheats for longer video - which would recommend for video podcast? FX30 / FX3 / A7cii ??
logged in just to like and watch Jason vid.. GJ bro
thank you thank you!
what tripod are you using in this video
How do you open the .ARW files from this camera on a macbook? Apple doesn't seem to support those cameras yet.
Hi Jason and co thanks for the review i like the 7r does it have ficus stacking feature as in a7r5?
very useful & details hand on video, thank you
Does the extension work with the original a7c, as the body seems the same?
I just bought the Sony a7iv a week ago as my first camera ever. Should I send it back and get sony a7cii or keep it?
Something no one says about the CR vs the Rv is that for on-camera flash, you get smaller shadows, since the flash isn't sitting on a big hump.
This was a really well made video
Good at holding retention without doing too much