Sony a7C II vs a7 IV: Which Camera SHOULD You Buy?

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    My goal with this video is to help you decide which camera might be the one for you. This time around I help you decide between the Sony a7C II and the Sony a7 IV. These mirrorless cameras share almost all the same specs, with a few subtle differences. Both of these cameras are going to be great for Portrait Photography, Action Photography, Weddings, Low Light Photography, Video and so much more. They are both well rounded cameras.
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  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Correction: the a7 IV doesn't have Insect/Car/Train/Airplane tracking. Just Human/Animal/Bird. Also, the "checkmark" for IBIS should've went to the A7C II.

    • @GeertDelmulle
      @GeertDelmulle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Indeed!
      And those check marks (that mean absolutely nothing, really ;-) for the better IBIS, should have been given to the A7C2, not the other one - hey I noticed, all right?! ;-)
      PS: I’m using the original A7C as my webcam for at least 2 years now, and I got the mark 2 like within a month since its release, and I absolutely LOVE it. What a great camera! And that AF is absolutely phenomenal! Complements my A1 beautifully.
      Really good stuff! Love it! :-)

    • @charlie_james_photo
      @charlie_james_photo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I spent 20 minutes searching the Internet to make sure I didn't miss something with my a7iv 😂

    • @stevestrickland446
      @stevestrickland446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seems like Sony could have added the other tracking for the A7iv in a firmware update for its loyal customers. Not a huge upgrade keeping us from updating to the next camera, but enough to show us we aren't extinct.

    • @KDHildreth
      @KDHildreth 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stevestrickland446Those auto focus modes are probably dependant on the AI chip which the A7IV doesn't have.

    • @kellydooling
      @kellydooling 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks. i was wondering about the latter. i also think the a7c should have received a check, or maybe a 1/2 check, for the ai auto framing.

  • @sammonica3829
    @sammonica3829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    This fro knows his photos

    • @JuliaPodciechowska
      @JuliaPodciechowska 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr

    • @aloysiusyudistianto3611
      @aloysiusyudistianto3611 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr

    • @itsJulian23
      @itsJulian23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to think he says "Frodo's Photos" and always wondered what that meant 😅

    • @yuvalme19
      @yuvalme19 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Real

    • @keensoundguy6637
      @keensoundguy6637 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You misunderstood him. Fro was bragging about his nose photos.

  • @alejandrotarangolearns1969
    @alejandrotarangolearns1969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    It's always good when Jared is still talking about your camera. 🎉

  • @bala1000mina
    @bala1000mina 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you so much Jared for the very informative comparative video! Good luck!

  • @greatvedas
    @greatvedas หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such deep dive analysis and comparison. It would takes several days of work to bring out such info. Thanks a lot Jared.

  • @markbubel5230
    @markbubel5230 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this detailed and interesting comparison

  • @LucidCreature
    @LucidCreature 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for this video! I was looking at the a7c II for a few weeks now.

  • @resco91
    @resco91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Back when I had my old D3100 I lost two days of shooting due to a card malfunction that rendered that card useless, fortunately i was just shooting an event i paid to see , so the photos were for my own enjoyment but since then having two card slots is my number one priority, you can give me the best of the best settings if it doesn't have an extra card slot I'm not buying it from

  • @JimHester
    @JimHester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Surprised there was no mention of the full-size HDMI connector (A7IV) vs mini HDMI (A7C2). This might be important if you're shooting video.

  • @ShuvamDasMangaraj
    @ShuvamDasMangaraj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You Sooo Much For The Perfect Information 😊

  • @Kevodabomb_Media
    @Kevodabomb_Media 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I went with the A7IV because:
    1. Used you can get them cheaper than a A7CII (have seen them as low as $1700 in local markets in good shape)
    2. I like that you can turn on a setting where the mechanical shutter stays closed to help prevent dust getting to the sensor, especially when changing lenses. This gives me a tiny piece of mind if I ever have to change a lens on a hike or something
    3. The EVF is much better, especially when it’s bright outside (once again, do a lot of hikes)
    4. I like the joystick for AF points on some occasions.
    The biggest pro for me of the A7C is the size, but honestly it’s not THAT much smaller, like if you were comparing it to say, an XT30.

  • @billmartin1010
    @billmartin1010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    For street photography, it's the a7Cii. I sold my Leica Q3 (the stereotypical street photography camera) and went to the a7Cii in order to get interchangeable lenses with the same small size and light weight. Sony's EF 40mm f/2.5 is an incredible, tiny, high quality street photography lens that's the perfect focal length for how I like to do street photography. At the end of the day, the a7Cii, plus lens, cost half what the Leica costs and it's a much more advanced -- dare I say "better" -- camera with a more useful focal length. The a7Cii is my first Sony and it's incredibly fun to shoot with. It ALMOST tempts me to switch from Canon to Sony . . . but, no. I bought this Sony because Canon doesn't make anything like it.

    • @ChristianErnestHizon
      @ChristianErnestHizon หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ZF was release will you try that also? but I do admit the A7cii is very nice and compact.

  • @sirytamas2705
    @sirytamas2705 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Got both, 7 IV for stills and 7C II for video. Best combo!

  • @akmaluddinsaid4104
    @akmaluddinsaid4104 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Jared. I have bought A7C II. It is amazing camere.

  • @NaorFilms
    @NaorFilms 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Great video!

  • @I922sParkCir
    @I922sParkCir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I use an A7C as a back up to my dual card slot main camera. A couple of things that are important to mention are that the A7C II only has an electronic front curtain shutter. I find portraits on bright days at wide apertures to have cut off, and distracting bokeh. The A7C II also has a lower sync speed of 1/160th which I find to be a little low.

    • @Valendrizzle
      @Valendrizzle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly, too few people speak about the missing full mechanical shutter and the problems EFSC may cause for image quality.

    • @depannist
      @depannist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I only learned this “after” purchasing as nobody talked about this very important difference.

    • @GAGPalia
      @GAGPalia 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Honestly the biggest gimp of a7CII. Its a no go for anyone that uses flash.1/160th is just slow enough to cause blurring and you cant even compensate with HSS because EFCS with HSS flash causes banding.

    • @glennaremoy
      @glennaremoy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@depannist As with the a7C and Canon's EOS R8, the A7C II lacks a mechanical first curtain shutter, relying instead of an electronic first curtain (EFCS). This means the exposure is started electronically but finished with a mechanical shutter.
      In almost all situations, the results are indistinguishable from using mechanical blades to start and end the exposure. The only downside is that if you use a very bright aperture lens and shoot at very high shutter speeds, the blurred 'bokeh' in the background will be less smooth than it should be. Point light sources that should be rendered as attractive circles will have their lower edge cut off. But this only happens in very specific circumstances.

  • @amandatorres4862
    @amandatorres4862 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I owned the a7iv and swapped to the a7cii, LOVE it. I do sports/wildlife. The autofocus is noticeably superior in the a7cii over the a7iv. plus, the .5 lb difference helps me a good bit since I have a spinal fracture. I use it all the time and i love the a7cii! resolution is perfect, sensor produces gorgeous image quality that is easily croppable if you must, excellent low light performance and that autofocus makes it a huge win over the a7iv any day for me. The added dial on the front is a gamechanger too for those of us who shoot in manual, so I definitely recommend it over the original a7c and the a7iv.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      All valid points. Thank you

    • @richbottarini86
      @richbottarini86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      All those reasons is why my A7iv is on EBay. For travel, this camera is great. Now if Sony would make some lightweight zoom lenses, like the 16-35 f4 lens. The new version is great to carry.

    • @popaine1
      @popaine1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @amandatorres4862, I have severe back pain but I am interested of buying either the A7cii or the a6700 since both are light cameras. Re the a7cii, do you mind if I ask you which lenses do you use please? Thanks

    • @amandatorres4862
      @amandatorres4862 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@popaine1 keeping things light is definitely my priority for that reason! The lenses I use are the tamron 28-75 2.8 g2, tamron 70-180 2.8 g2, and sony 100-400gm w the 1.4x tele. The GM is a little too heavy for me w/ the 1.4x tele but i dont use it often and when i do its awesome . I also had the sigma 100-400 and i loved it, that extra .5 lb makes a difference. Depends what you shoot, but i love using the 100-400 on the apsc sensor. I had the a7iv and the 100-400 gm was too heavy w that setup. The a7cii made the GM more manageable for me :) Hope you find a perfect setup for your back! Most lenses are so high quality now a days, i would totally save weight and get a third party lighter option when its available.

    • @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras
      @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richbottarini86the new(ish) Sony 20-70 f4 is a great lens.

  • @louisburley1597
    @louisburley1597 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve been enjoying my A7IV a lot. I wish it had some of the autofocus stacking and 8 stops of IBIS from the 7RV but that’s really it

  • @cesarpreza5448
    @cesarpreza5448 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just got the a7 iv this past weekend. Came from a Nikon d3500 so a massive upgrade. Super excited to take it everywhere with me

  • @danvranic2306
    @danvranic2306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Been using the A7Cii for a month with the FE 35mm f1.8 and the 20-70 F4 G. Its been absolutely fantastic for me. Fit, form and function. I am really happy going to this over the A7IV.

    • @lewcehjitl3282
      @lewcehjitl3282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can’t decide 24-70gm ii or 20-70g for my a7rV ;(

  • @nickwilliams7867
    @nickwilliams7867 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Read out speed is one area Sony is a long way behind Canon and it would be nice if they could improve. The A7V whenever it comes out needs to do a least 20 fps to get close to some of Canons entry level cameras. Do that and give it the rear screen on the A7RV and the new body shape from the A9III and they have a winner.

  • @2minhacks
    @2minhacks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You changed the old folded paper comparison table
    But it is better now

  • @bryant928
    @bryant928 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah this solidifies my want of the A7CII, small but feature rich. easier for me to travel with.

  • @Jeffshighonlife
    @Jeffshighonlife หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the A7cii & Sony 50mm f/1.4 GM & Sony 16-35 f/4 pz. It is such a great camera

  • @Proyapper0
    @Proyapper0 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bestie What do you recommend for shooting makeup tiktoks and reels?

  • @Xero.Limitz
    @Xero.Limitz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which one would you pick Fro?

  • @patricksprojects
    @patricksprojects 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New menu and touchscreen capabilities for the cii correct? Loving my cii so far!

  • @skyrunr
    @skyrunr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This Nikon user switched to the A7C which is half the price used, and now I own the A7CII. Just pair it with some light/small/affordable Tamron f2.8 zoom lenses and some Samyang primes. BOOM! I shoot HEIF+HLG for neutral colors. "Close enough to raw!"

    • @thetayrol
      @thetayrol 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you use it only for video or photo and video? Today I only use the D750 for photos, but I want to migrate to Sony to take photos and videos more efficiently. A7Cii or A7iv in this case?

    • @skyrunr
      @skyrunr 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@thetayrol I prefer the A7CII over the A7IV.

  • @EnvyInMotion
    @EnvyInMotion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This comes at a good time for me because I am in the process of replacing my A7 II and these were the two I was looking at

    • @tesdaregioni9856
      @tesdaregioni9856 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, what a coincidence! I'm also in the market for a new camera, and this two is in my list. replacing my a7ii. Have you decided already?

    • @EnvyInMotion
      @EnvyInMotion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tesdaregioni9856 I've decided to get the A7C II, but wait for a used one under $2000

  • @ChristianLawrence
    @ChristianLawrence 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One gripe coming from canon user and using the a7cr as my second cam. Why can you not choose what info to have displayed on the screen at the same time. Having the level and the histogram at the same time surely isn’t to much to ask. 🤔🤔. Also they do seem to be dust magnets, never had to correct so many dust spots😂. I do love the form factor of the a7cr.

  • @ruff1draft
    @ruff1draft 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sony A74 is on my radar. I have seen a Sony A74 body only mint condition for £1,900 UK pounds.
    The Sony A7C Mark 2 looks great. But I do like the two SD Card Slot and the EVF in the middle of the camera body.
    So the Sony A74 is for me

  • @Ronny_van_Gerwen
    @Ronny_van_Gerwen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to replace my a6000 this year, and I was looking between these two, and a used a7riv. I think between these two the a7c II wins. That one has to compete with a used a7riv. Suggestion’s anyone?

  • @captainninj
    @captainninj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think another important feature between both is the joy stick.
    The A7 IV has the joy stick so you can adjust the point without having to pull that camera away from your face. Meanwhile the A7cii is solely touch screen and you would have to pull the camera away from your face to select a new point.
    If you already rely on mostly using the touch screen to change your point or shoot using the screen opposed to the view finder, it might not make a difference but still a feature to consider

    • @benoittissier58
      @benoittissier58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure about the A7cii, but with the A6700 you can move the focus point with the D-pad. The center button toggles between function mode and joystick mode. Since A7cii and A6700 have very similar bodies, I'd guess it's the same.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You don’t need to move your face away from it. You can activate the d pad, you can also touch and drag on the screen with your face up to it.

    • @captainninj
      @captainninj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @froknowsphoto oh cool, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clarifying that, Jared

    • @AndreiDinTheHouse
      @AndreiDinTheHouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you can use the d-pad for the same thing, but granted, the joystick is much better and more precise.

  • @AndreiDinTheHouse
    @AndreiDinTheHouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've tried both and ... I'm still stumped. The AI AF isn't groundbreaking. I guess it helps, but what matters is actually doing the focus and both cameras do that. The only difference is that A7CII seems to "jump" to the eyes of insects faster. As for train/airplane recognition ... it seems to try to hunt for cockpit but whatever. The 7 EV of IBIS makes no difference whatsoever.They both suffer from RS, visibly, I was told one could get it under control via mechanical shutter on A7 IV, no idea how. I like the EVF placement on A7IV (also better EVF).

  • @CocoKoi321
    @CocoKoi321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the sony shouldve done what nikon does sometimes which is one SD card SLOT and MICRO sd card slot

  • @docuzzie
    @docuzzie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A7C II for me

  • @blinzzz9374
    @blinzzz9374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if I want a second camera to shoot alongside a7rv - would you go with zv-e1 or this 7cii?
    I’m torn between both. The 7cii doesn’t sacrifice that much video?

    • @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras
      @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I sold my a7iv and bought the a7cii, sold my a7siii bought the zve1. If you are looking for the 2nd camera to be more for video definitely get the zve1. More photo focused then get the a7cii.

  • @SouvikBiswasOfficial
    @SouvikBiswasOfficial หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please make a video on A7C Mark II vs R6 Mark II

  • @a_f2598
    @a_f2598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went with the a7iv because i already have the a6700 and i wanted the bigger evf and two sd card slots. it was a hard decision because software is of course better with the newer camera, however, here in europe the a7iv is much cheaper. so, this tipped the balance.

  • @mr.vegetable3301
    @mr.vegetable3301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please do the same for the R version !

  • @desohare8683
    @desohare8683 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an A7iv and an A6700 with the same control layout as the A7C ii. The a7iv has an 8 way joystick to move the focus point. None on the A7C ii. You have to toggle the D-pad constantly between iso etc and control of focus point. A real pain.

    • @benoittissier58
      @benoittissier58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also have both and I still struggle to find the joystick on the A7iv., my thumb recognizes the D-pad more easily. But I use manual with auto ISO, so I don't have to toggle much.

  • @Ckama
    @Ckama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do a comparison between the Z30 and the ZVE-10? I’ve been shooting new york with the Z30 and the ZVE-10 seems to get consistently more praise and I’m confused as to why

    • @skyrunr
      @skyrunr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you're happy with the Z30 stick with it.
      Sony has better AF (twice the AF points,) lens selection (Sony 15f1.4G alone,) headphone port, non-app remote control, 1/3 longer battery life, lighter, smaller. S-log with catalyst browse software-based stabilization.

  • @CC3GROUNDZERO
    @CC3GROUNDZERO 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The price difference makes it possible to get the attachable grip for the A7C II and still pay about the same overall as for the A7 IV, which makes the A7C II an ideal adjustable "chameleon" suitable for anything from landscape to events to street photography.
    The dust protective shield is only on the A7 IV though, and the A7C II doesn't have full mechanical shutter.
    It really is a difficult decision because there are some serious tradeoffs in both directions.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m pretty sure there is no grip for the a7c II

    • @CC3GROUNDZERO
      @CC3GROUNDZERO 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@froknowsphoto Ah my bad, I was sure something like that exists.

  • @NandishA
    @NandishA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I upgraded ( downgraded) from A7rii to A7C. The colors and the image quality straight out of the camera impressed me . I am sure the newer version would be even better .

    • @AndreiDinTheHouse
      @AndreiDinTheHouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      image quality isn't visibly better. AF is better, startup time is marginally better. EVF is visibly better and feels better in hand (for me - the grip on the original was uncomfortably small).

    • @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras
      @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A7rii to a7cii is definitely an upgrade.

  • @munrana
    @munrana 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:48 you gave the one and a half check mark to a7iv instead of a7cii

  • @amandaparotte
    @amandaparotte 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please do a comparison of the a7cll vs canon r6 mark ll

    • @suekoi3885
      @suekoi3885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yes, that’s what I want too.

  • @naveen-rj3nabu5
    @naveen-rj3nabu5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are showing a7c not c2..just for demo or you did compare with a7c

  • @Louie-ty6bh
    @Louie-ty6bh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the a7IV - it has a recording limit. Shuts off after 40+mins recording 4K at either 24 or 30 fps.

    • @spenson89
      @spenson89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not true, I’ve recorded 1+ hour video at 4K 30 fps with no limit

    • @Louie-ty6bh
      @Louie-ty6bh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spenson89 it’s inconsistent. There are times it can record more than an hour without over heating and there are times it shuts off after 40-55 mins.
      I film moving subjects continuously and not a static talking head.

  • @LeonidAndronov
    @LeonidAndronov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Has someone tested IBIS of A7CII vs A7IV or A7RV?

    • @AndreiDinTheHouse
      @AndreiDinTheHouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes - couldn't see a practical difference. Photos, video ... nothing significant.

  • @rhyschapman2861
    @rhyschapman2861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video though, but not sure if you did it to see if anyone noticed but the A7CII in the video is actually the old A7C 🙂
    EDIT: In shots where you are standing with the camera's. I Did notice some B Roll with the correct one..

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, we had to send a7C II back to Sony, we had the a7C as a stand-in which is just a prop piece at the end of the day. However any time we mentioned anything specific about the camera, we made sure to use b-roll of the a7C II.

  • @pauliusgrigas2653
    @pauliusgrigas2653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    waiting for A7 V

  • @abinasht.7061
    @abinasht.7061 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thought A1 has 50MP, google says 50 as well.
    Also 12:49 why did A7IV got check mark instead of CII

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does. We were referring to the processor being the same, not the sensor. And we noted the checkmark mistake in the pinned comment.

  • @peterjagusch
    @peterjagusch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just bought both of them ... Seems to be a great combination 😁

  • @janvirtanen9110
    @janvirtanen9110 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would get A7iv because of the better viewfinder. Even tho i would buy it for street photography. I used to use m leica for street photography and long time ago went to fuji x100. And the viewfinder was terrible compared to the large viewfinder of the leica. So not doing the dame mistake 😅

  • @poikatiikeri
    @poikatiikeri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    joystick?

  • @benoittissier58
    @benoittissier58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The A7cii only has first curtain electronic shutter like the R8 whereas the A7iv has a full mechanical shutter. That is why sync speed is different.
    The A7iv has redundancy until slot 1 stops working for both CF-A and SD. That happened to me today ! The camera is not 2 years old yet ! [edit : refused to work that day despite switching on and off, tried it just before bringing it to repair and been working since]
    Oh, and if you want to shoot sports with the A7iv, stay at 6 FPS and don't expect sharp pictures only.

  • @SUPERSTARSSTYLE1YOUTUBE
    @SUPERSTARSSTYLE1YOUTUBE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a7 V )

  • @TheNerdArmory
    @TheNerdArmory 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A7IV should be note that it also can stream 4K through USB BUT it's at 15fps, not 30 which is massive for me and why i'm watching this video. :P

  • @sandyfordd1843
    @sandyfordd1843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How come reviewers don't realise that the A7c cameras are designed to fit in your pocket? The EVF on the side keeps the camera small and the top is flat. I have both cameras and always have the A7c in my pocket with a small lens where ever I go. I never miss that shot!

    • @frankygamaliano7058
      @frankygamaliano7058 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because it is not pocketable. At least for standard size of pockets. Not everyone wears jacket.

    • @tubularificationed
      @tubularificationed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also wonder, if the term "pocketable" is mostly a marketing lie? The only pocketable imaging devices are smartphones. But never system cameras plus their lenses. Not even Olympus. Not even the failed "Nikon 1" or "Pentax Q" attempts. Even for such one-inch sensor systems, "pocketable" was enough of a marketing lie, which is why they never had a chance to survive.
      Once you wear some kind of bag over your shoulder, then weight nuances are not important any longer.
      Which is actually the reason, why MFT and APS-C are getting a hard time from small full frame kits, such as an A7C* plus the growing compact/lightweight FF lenses choice.

    • @sandyfordd1843
      @sandyfordd1843 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frankygamaliano7058, I put it in my jacket pocket where ever I go. If it's warm and I don't have a jacket on then I have a little camera case that slides on to my belt.

    • @depannist
      @depannist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tubularificationedone inch sensor Sony cameras are definitely pocketable. I put my RX 100 in my pocket all the time.

    • @depannist
      @depannist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tubularificationedone inch sensor Sony cameras are definitely pocketable. I put my RX 100 in my pocket all the time.

  • @appleboyav
    @appleboyav หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 12:48 the 1 ½ checkmark should have been on the a7c ii and not the a7iv right?

  • @amarendrahati1054
    @amarendrahati1054 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you compare Sony a7iv vs canon r8

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we actually already compared it here: th-cam.com/video/IwIPNzozPGk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NkQ70KBq181z-xym

  • @jmp622
    @jmp622 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you shoot RAW?

  • @ciaran.laverty
    @ciaran.laverty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here’s my options:
    Sony a7iii (used) approx £1100
    Sony a7iv (used) approx £1800
    Sony a7cii (used) approx £1800
    First option leaves more room for lenses, probably only want to spend £2k, could get the a7iv/a7cii with cheaper lens (50mm 1.8) to start or a7iii with a sigma 24-70 or something,
    Or maybe look at apsc (a6700)
    So confusing lol

  • @mongini1
    @mongini1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why should somebody looking at a fuji for traveling consider a full frame camera that needs bulky full frame glass to get the most out of it? doesnt make sense Mr. Fro...

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      “Bulky”…..for me it’s about quality. If you want garbage quality of the Fuji, with one focal length, go for it. I could get good results with it, but for a camera that’s the same size, that I can choose what lens I want, bulky or not, I’ll take the Sony.

    • @mongini1
      @mongini1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@froknowsphoto wow... That was the most unprofessional answer imaginable from you. You wanna take a blind test between my former A7 III with Sigma Art Primes vs my current Fuji X-H2 With a Viltrox prime? I'd bet you won't tell them apart. But whatever... Guess it's time to move on and watch other creators that are more objective than you...

    • @DavidGain
      @DavidGain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Sony with a pancake type lens fitted is virtually the same size as something like an X100V. We're talking millimetres... hardly enough to describe it as impractical due to being 'too bulky' given the better ergonomics and better tech inside.

    • @mongini1
      @mongini1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@DavidGainergonomics is a subjective topic, tech is better, no question, but you pay for that. If you stack up the A7CII with a f2.8 pancake vs an X-T30 II with a small f2 prime, you get very equal looks at half the cost. If OOC HEIF'S is your cup of tea, you'd be mad not to go with Fuji, cause their processing is 2nd to none. I'm tipped off by Jared's response. Referring to Fuji as garbage quality is like stating a Strawberry Cheesecake tastes like dog shit compared to a hot brownie. They are both desserts, both are sweet, but their own flavors and consistencies.
      Like I mentioned above: I owned an A7III and Sigma Art Primes (my favorite was the 135mm 1.8), now rocking an X-H2 with my new favorite lens, the 75mm 1.2 (so 113mm f1.8 full frame equiv.), and even looking at 1:1 I can't tell them apart. If that's telling nothing I don't know what would...

  • @bonenyamom4977
    @bonenyamom4977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At this point, no new cameras from any manufacturer should only have one card slot. It's a deal breaker. Memory cards are not 100% reliable. Redundancy is.

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DJI should get on board with this with its drones. No reason to have only one card slot on a drone when it's a tiny *_microSD._*

  • @RealThore
    @RealThore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you sure the A7iv has car, train etc tracking? I think that’s just for the cameras with the AI chip or was that added with a firmware update? Haven’t seen that on mine

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ah yeah we misspoke there. Noted the correction in the above pinned comment. Thanks for pointing out!

    • @RealThore
      @RealThore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stepheneckert4006 I really was like „did I miss that 2 1/2 years?“ :D

  • @ShibaSoftware
    @ShibaSoftware หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am travelling through japan now. I can only buy what I can carry in a suitcase. There are tax free camera shops in japan selling the japanese versions of the A7IV & A7C2 on sale for

  • @keeperofti_me
    @keeperofti_me 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought the A7IV had a ton of over heating issues in video…

  • @ivojossart8297
    @ivojossart8297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not only use a good memorycard - you want to avoid bad batteries. A failure of a battery while writing to the card - will make it fail.

  • @SirCookie-monster
    @SirCookie-monster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ibis chk marks on the wrong one 😂 the cii demands more check marks ✅

  • @adrock38
    @adrock38 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sony a7 c ii or Nikon Zf???

    • @skyrunr
      @skyrunr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you want more resolution, customization, and compact A7CII. If you want a bulky retro/basic camera the ZF. Nikon has nicer JPG's. You also have to consider your lenses and budget. Native Nikon glass or even adapting e-mount glass is going to cost more.

    • @Duskbleu
      @Duskbleu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A7C2, the ZF feels like a brick in my hands. And A7C2's sencor is one generation ahead. E mount is at a better place than Z mount right now

  • @thibaultgras5854
    @thibaultgras5854 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A7IV second hand. There you go

  • @2minhacks
    @2minhacks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The check marks are changed
    Wait, did you change your editor?

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      New set, new lighting, new comparison template, new checkmarks! Same editors…

  • @Shivaansehrawat
    @Shivaansehrawat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sony 6700?

  • @jeirg-lr8vf
    @jeirg-lr8vf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    S5IIX

  • @yigitogutlu3100
    @yigitogutlu3100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just don't understand how sony got worse with the mechanical shutter. With the A-mount cameras it was 12fps and now it is 10 fps.

  • @Tapirrr
    @Tapirrr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    R8 has no IBIS. R7 has no battery grips. R6 mk2? Sure, but no third party lenses. Thats why I sold my r7 and canon glass for sony a7iv and a 200-600

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They’re also $1000 less

    • @Duskbleu
      @Duskbleu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Sony has no quality control, good thing you mentioned 200600, cuz I tried four none of them are good copies 😂

  • @akanbilincoln1307
    @akanbilincoln1307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A7iv wins 🏆.

  • @jaughnekow
    @jaughnekow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A7cii for me.

  • @NateBittinger
    @NateBittinger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The single card is a deal breaker :(

  • @kasplantje7277
    @kasplantje7277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great, next time if you make a comparison video, use the actual A7CII and not the A7C for your presentation. You can clearly see that the frond dial is missing. and the mode switch on top. You clearly have the camera because it is in some of the other shots next to the A7IV.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We don’t get to keep cameras. So it doesn’t exactly matter what camera is sitting on the desk now does it?

    • @kasplantje7277
      @kasplantje7277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Details matter, you guys above all should know that.

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We had the camera months ago for a few weeks. Had to send it back to sony. Had the a7c on hand to stand in for silly checkmarks. Not a big deal like you’re making it out to be. Any time we mentioned specifics about the camera we showed the actual a7cII from our hands on preview

  • @domsut
    @domsut 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    neither

  • @carlosl6949
    @carlosl6949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A7CII is not a fully mechanical shutter, is EFCS (could cause banding in high speed flash). The IBIS on AC7II sucks, you can be able to get roughly 3 stops or less in real life, if he owns the bodies he will agree with me. The Sony sensors attracts dust, something that does not happen with other brands.
    Looks like more a paid review and not a real one

  • @frodoOG
    @frodoOG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    one card slot is nightmare! I have reshoot photoshoots because card being busted, not once but twice. I have lied to clients cause of memory cards.

    • @GeertDelmulle
      @GeertDelmulle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hasn’t happened to me since the nineties… Advise: always buy good cards, though…

    • @frodoOG
      @frodoOG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GeertDelmulle indeed! it has been 10 years and to this day it still scares me.

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another reason for two slots is human error. An extra layer of redundancy isn't a bad thing.

    • @Xirpzy
      @Xirpzy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never had a card die. Maybe because I take photos rather than video. Video has a much higher chance to corrupt from what Ive heard.

  • @nilanjanbiswas4416
    @nilanjanbiswas4416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:49 wrong camera check mark sir

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, read pinned comment please

    • @nilanjanbiswas4416
      @nilanjanbiswas4416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@froknowsphoto i am your subscriber since 2015
      Finally i got a reply
      Thank you sir.Love from India 🇮🇳

  • @TomatenDK
    @TomatenDK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You keep saying "i shoot uncompressed raw cause thats the best" in a condescending way as if compressed raw is poor quality. You´re the only youtuber I hear say that. In fact many youtubers (yes the big professionel photographers like yourself) say you cant tell the difference between compressed and uncompressed. Remember you´re talking to amateurs/semi-pros and we surely cant see the difference. So people : use compressed raw and have the 10 fps. You WONT tell the difference, and you will LOVE the speed.
    Jared , you say our a7IV has plane,car and insect realtime tracking ? Where do we find that ? I´ve never heard of the a7IV having those in our menu ?
    Then you say the a7IV has 5.5 stops of stabilization, which is better than the a7CII´s 7 stops of stabilization, and give the a7IV check mark for that too ?

    • @benoittissier58
      @benoittissier58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At 10 FPS, the A7iv EVF refresh rate becomes 10 FPS.... If your subject is moving, it is difficult to follow. So 8 FPS with compressed RAW. To my experience, it's better to stay at 6 FPS for sports, there are less misfocused shots.

    • @TomatenDK
      @TomatenDK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benoittissier58 okay. Never had any issues tracking birds with 10 fps myself.

    • @benoittissier58
      @benoittissier58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TomatenDK Well, different situations. By the way, Simon d'Entremont recently released a video saying he's switching to compressed RAW.

    • @TomatenDK
      @TomatenDK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benoittissier58 love that guy's videos

  • @jishnoo
    @jishnoo 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thats not the a7c ii. Its an a7c.

  • @shubhammehtavlogs267
    @shubhammehtavlogs267 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Camera in your table is not A7 C II its a C

  • @richbottarini86
    @richbottarini86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are several differences that you did not mention. First, the programmable dial on top is lockable on the A7 iv and not on the A7 c ii. The number of custom buttons is half on the A7 c ii than the A7 iv. I like to use the custom buttons and it was difficult transferring to the A7 c ii. The buttons on the A 6600 are more to my liking. I wish that Sony keep the same body layout on the a 6700 and A7c ii as they did on the a 6600. That layout is better for photography than video.

  • @ikulyl
    @ikulyl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1st comment

  • @AndreySNH
    @AndreySNH 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Вывод: нужно ждать A7 V 😅

  • @looptimelapse
    @looptimelapse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    none of them my a7r3a is good enough for 8k timelapses

  • @imboredDB
    @imboredDB 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol, i want a Sony however they all have issues😢😢😢😢.

  • @user-dx4tm2kr5h
    @user-dx4tm2kr5h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Стабилизация лучше у A7C2, а галочки улетели A7M4. Класс!

  • @floridareales
    @floridareales 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The answer from Jared will be a Canon Camera.

    • @tubularificationed
      @tubularificationed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. The one and only reason for him personally was that Canons 2.0 zoom lens, as he said (again) in a previous vide. Else, he probably would be still with Sony. Same is advisable for the 99.9% of customers who don't need or want to lug around such an expensive and heavy 2.0 zoom lens for anything such as travel, family, landscape, or who need 1.x primes anyway for more decent bokeh than 2.0 🙂

  • @fracv__
    @fracv__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A7cii = EFCS…

  • @Froster563
    @Froster563 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    .

  • @thesharpercoder
    @thesharpercoder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great point about the viewfinder being difficult to use. They nearly one third of photographers are left eye shooters.
    I am a left eye shooter, who must wear eyeglasses. These “right eye” Sony bodies are a total non-starter, for me. It is a safe bet that the design is a non-starter many other photographers, too.
    I have no idea what Sony has been thinking with this design. To these “right-eye” camera bodies even have a diopter? Even if they did, it would not make any difference, to me.

    • @benoittissier58
      @benoittissier58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The A6700 has a diopter. I wear glasses because I'm farsighted, I can't see the whole field with glasses on with both A6700 and A7iv, so I take my glasses off and adjust the diopter.

  • @v_stands_for_value124
    @v_stands_for_value124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Same camera, different bullshit to try make the customer go up to the A1 or A7RV

  • @_._Stefan_._
    @_._Stefan_._ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It would Not Buy a Sony Camera. Cheap plastic Materials , almost feels cheap compared to Nikon cameras

    • @sashinger5230
      @sashinger5230 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That’s just wrong.

    • @_._Stefan_._
      @_._Stefan_._ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sashinger5230 Pick up a7iv and Z6II and use the Rotary Wheel and Buttons. I hold the AIV yestesterday in my Hand and was surprised about the Materials

    • @_._Stefan_._
      @_._Stefan_._ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sashinger5230 I tested the A7IV yesterday and was surprised at how cheap it felt. Technically great, of course, but unfortunately the materials are not.

    • @Gogogordy1
      @Gogogordy1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@_._Stefan_._The A7IV, has a magnesium alloy body. In Fact the A6400 from what 5 years ago does as well and I assume it’s successor the A6700 does too. Don’t buy a SONY if you dont wish to, but dont spread bad info about them if you dont know.

    • @billmartin1010
      @billmartin1010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At least with the Nikon, you still get Sony sensors.