@@repairvehicle Thank you. My Jap specialist garage put 5W-20 in May last year.....because it was summer. I then put 0W-20 6 month later as i have 90,000 miles,it runs great! They're a great garage & i trust them. Appreciate this great video & all your other videos.
@@tardeliesmagic On my 2015 Sienna, it says use only 0w-20, it says one may use 5w-20 if 0w-20 is not available, but to return to 0w-20 at the next change. I have never been unable to find 0w-20, so that is all it has used(it has 160,000+ miles, no consumption, or leaks. Still runs like new. I have begun changing oil every 5,000 since it reached 140,000 as a safeguard)
Yes,here in Guatemala, my rav4 uses 5w30 from the local oficial Toyota representative. In the manual also states you can use 0w20, 5w20 and 0w16 as long it Is Api Sn, SN plus or SP
I don't have a Toyota now but at one time I owned three of them. I now drive a 17 year old Honda with 230,000 miles on it and it does not use any oil between oil changes. I change the oil every 5,000 miles regardless of time. i started the car out on 5W-20 synthetic oil but when Honda started recommending 0W-20 oil I switched to it. The 0W-20 has been used since the car had 170,000 on it. I have had no issues with any oil related problems.
I live in Mexico, with climate in the summer up to 38 centigrades, I use 0w16 in two 2.5 litres 2019 engines. No issues, those actually on 0w16 work two centigrades cooler than 5w30 oil on the same engines. I do not race, cruising at 70 mph on a 37 centigrades highway oil stays at 95-96 centigrades. City driving on same conditions keeps oil at 85-86 centigrades on stop an go city driving. Did not said: two Toyota A25A non hybrid engines on a Camry made in US A and Rav4 made in Japan.
Personally here in Morocco 🇲🇦, I use 05W-30 as engine oil for my Toyota rav4 without any problem for every 5000 kms , I think it suits the temperature in the region .
I live in tropical Mexico, with temperatures in summer of 95 Fahrenheit. Local toyota dealer uses 5w30 toyota non synthetic oil. After a year I changed to 0w16 as recommended in my Toyota manual. Oil temperature drop two centigrades with new thinner oil. I drive calmly in city but revs my engine when I hit the highway. I take it to 9000 kilometres before changing oil. So far so good, not oil consumption after a couple of years
Dear@@ced_ambience thanks for your question. Unfortunately my driving habits makes it very difficult to compare, I would say it is about the same MPG I am register after 0w16 oil. By the way this are two similar Toyota engines, 2.5 liters on Rav4 and Camry, both 2019 models. Both same oil history, both same results. Mobil1 0w16 has been the only brand that sells 0w16 in Mexico. Mobil 1 0w16, compared to Toyota 0w16 oil are very similar, with the exception of Molybdenum, that Toyota oil comes with 755 ppm of Molybdenum vs Mobil 1 that registers only 81 ppm of same antifriction aditive Molybdenum. My last change has been pouring half can of liquimoly Ceratec to add Molybdenum and reach around 300 ppm of Molybdenum, my BlueDriver device test shows same working temperature but engines definetively rev faster with 150 ml of Ceratec into each one. Hope this information helps, best wishes from Mazatlan, Mexico.
Makes me really consider amsoil 0w30 best of both worlds . I change my oil every 4-5k miles regularly so I’m sure 0w20 on my tundra is no issue and I also don’t drive it hard ever. Thanks for the video
That's what I run since Amsoil offers it. **also, I live in south TX.* Otherwise, seeing the virgin oil analysis of 0w-16 for Toyota oil is very impressive not remotely like Mobil-1. Would like to see the 0w-20.
The only reason Toyota is pushing 10K miles in the USA is because of a marketing ploy and competition to show the new buyers that the vehicle will not have a lot of maintenance. It's sad but that's reality... Oil is always cheaper than getting a new engine...
Audi tried to tell me the same thing when I got my RS5. I laughed knowing that a high powered twin turbo engine would not last at all waiting a year between oil changes.
People forget oil has two jobs which are lubrication and keeping the inside of the engine clean, and after about 7k or 8k miles it starts allowing sludge to form.
My 2010 FJ Cruiser ask for 0w20. But im in central America with a lot of heat and i use synthetic 5w30 as Toyota recomends for Australia and Middle East. Cero problems so far. Super happy. Cheers!
My Toyota manuals also gives me a choice of oil weights to use depending on the temperature of the region. Here it goes below freezing once or twice a year. But rarely below 5 Celcius. And day time temps can easily be above 30 Celcius most summer days. So I use the thicker reccomendations
I say one should use what oil the manufacturer recommends. My 1GR-FE in my 2021 4Runner TRD ORP calls for 0W20 so that’s what I’ll use. 0W20 is full synthetic anyways, but I’ll probably just keep using Toyota 0W20 oil. There’s small orifices and channels that require a 0W20 oil and you can get into some trouble switching to a thicker oil. Also DON’T go 10k miles on an oil change as they recommend, change it every 6mos or 3k-5k miles. Great video brother!!
Except you are wrong about the oil orifices requiring 0w-20. Your same engine in other countries is allowed up to a 0w-30 or 5w-30 and it's the exact same engine. Most engine (not all) that specify a 0w-20 can go a grade higher a be fine. My owners manual specifies in writing that a 5w-30 is allowable despite a 0w-16 being reccomended for mpg and nothing else.
@@AEVMU no, not wrong. I said you CAN get into some trouble switching to a thicker oil. Doesn’t mean you will have any problems, but that it’s possible. You certainly can. Using a thicker oil and the owner listens to the incorrect advice and changes it every 10k miles, the oil gets dirty, it’s thicker, and smaller channels can get blocked up limiting oil being allowed to flow freely to other areas of the engine. It most certainly happens. Furthermore I said one should use what the manufacturer recommends. If they recommend something different in a different country than so be it, use that, but that doesn’t just mean that you can use said oil everywhere. Some manufacturers have slight differences in the engines in different countries. Typically that’s just things like emissions equipment either having it or not, but they don’t always tell us what’s different. The weights of oil recommended by the manufacturer has some to do with the engine internals, but slightly more to do with the climate the engine will be sold in. Such as a truck in South Africa or a truck in Alaska will have different weight oils recommended by the manufacturer.
@@KendrasEdge757 The oil orifices do not require a 0w-20. That is 100% wrong. If that engine can take thicker oil in any country, then the oil orifices can take a thicker oil period. ALL oil is too thick when cold anyway, even a 0w-8 is thicker when cold than a 15w-50 when hot, If oil orifices needed a 0w-20 than they would all fail when cold and all the oil would end up in the top end. Plus many 30 weight oils are thinner than many 20 weight oils when only 10c hotter and vice versa. Going up a half grade or a full grade is not going to negatively affect an engine except if you go too thin (0w-16 or below) in an engine not designed for it. Even my 2022 Corolla hybrid (Prius engine) owners manual, which is ''recommended'' to use 0w-16, specifically says a 5w-30 may provide better protection and is allowed. Cats get clogged due to the composition of the oil, not the viscosity and VVTI gears are perfectly fine with going up a grade as well, otherwise they would throw a code when 10c cooler than ideal operating temp, and yes, your engine will vary that much in temp depending on use/terrain. 0w-20 is recommended because in the US Toyota can't recommend anything other than what it was certified for, and mpg is part of the certification.
@@nicholasroberts9618 manuals say different specs in different areas of the country is my understanding. Whether you’re in northeast or southwest I’d imagine would recommend different viscosities of oil. For example, I’m in southeast area and this is copied from my manual: 8-1 Specifications: page 523 • Engine oil selection "Toyota Genuine Motor Oil" is used in your Toyota vehicle. Use Toyota approved "Toyota Genuine Motor Oil" or equivalent to satisfy the following grade and viscosity. Oil grade: ILSAC GF-5 multigrade engine oil Recommended viscosity: SAE OW-20 SAE OW-20 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good starting in cold weather. If SAE OW-20 is not available, SAE 5W-20 oil may be used. However, it must be replaced with SAE OW-20 at the next oil change. • The OW in OW-20 indicates the characteristic of the oil which allows cold startability. Oils with a lower value before the W allow for easier starting of the engine in cold weather. • The 20 in OW-20 indicates the viscosity characteristic of the oil when the oil is at high temperature. An oil with a higher viscosity (one with a higher value) may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high speeds, or under extreme load conditions. One should stick with what their manual recommends.
In my country, Pakistan, Toyota recommends various viscosities ranging from 5w30 to 5w-50 for different ambient temperatures for the 2ZR-FE powered Corolla. This engine is still being offered in the Corolla here. 5w30 is filled from the factory. Since it is quite hot in the summers here, the Toyota manual for the corolla recommends 5w30 in winters and 10w30 in summers. 10w40 and 5w50 are recommended for extremely hot regions and/or for older engines. 0w20 is recommended as an all year round oil for hybrids only. I know, in the U.S., 0w20 is recommended for the 2ZR-FE. There have been reported 2ZR-FE failures using the 0w20 in the scorching 50C heat south of my country. I've been using 5w30 in winters and 10w30 in summers as per the Owner's manual recommendation, and never faced any problem. Over here, we use kms. I change the oil every 5000 kms or 6 months, which ever comes first. My corolla has accumulated 2,57000 kms and the engine still runs great. The car has undergone suspension work, though, but that is another story.
I'm using Toyota 5w30 semi synthetic in winters and Toyota 10w30 conventional in summers. Toyota oil, here, is blended by Mobil1 and Idemitsu. The Toyota 5w30 semi synthetic is blended by Mobil 1, and the 10w30 and 5w50 are blended by Idemitsu. 5w50 and the 0w20 (hybrid oil) are the only two full synthetic oils on offer under the Toyota Motor Oil brand in Pakistan. These viscosities are recommended for use in Pakistan's hot environment only, as per the owner's manual. We get the 1.6L 1ZR-FE and the 1.8L 2ZR-FE powered corollas here. There also used to be a 1.3L Corolla but that was discontinued and replaced by the Yaris Sedan in 2020.
@@alimujtaba747 Hello from Iran, i had a scary experience worth sharing. Hyundai IX 55 2009, asks for 5w-30, i opened the manual, it permitted 20w-50 oil, i went ahead and tried it, cuz it was a lot cheaper, new 20w-50 oil in, went for a test drive, 5 min in, a horrible sound of a sawing machine / rod knock started coming from engine, drove slowly to my mechanic luckly hes near me less than 1Km, he said turn it off now, few more km and you would have destroyed tappets on your valves, we drained it and refilled with 5w-30, i was lucky noise went away.
With my aunt who is kinda sketchy and sits her car around in parking lots idling for hours on end, even though her car says 0w-20 I give her car 5w-30 because I find at the end of the interval her car has more oil when using 5w-30. With 0w-20 her car has 2qt left after 5000 miles but with 5w-30 she still has 3.5-4qt at 5000 miles
@@repairvehicle I try and maintain it when I can. It's her life, I'm sure she's "making deals" while sitting in parking lots idling but that's not my business. I help all my family when they ask, no questions.
Based on all I know you are better off occasionally refilling with 5W20 than using thicker engine oil. But even if you refill, still get regular oil changes.
In my manual it clearly states that the hybrid toy I have should get 0w20 and that it's acceptable to put 5w30 for example but should be changed back to 0w20 as soon as possible. But when you go for maintenance at Toyota they always put 5w30.. if Toyota engineers says 0w20 it should be that and not another..
In Mexico, the original Toyota 5W30 oil was manufactured in the USA by Mobil, now in 2024 it is manufactured by Idemitsu in Mexico and since the change of manufacturer the engine noise has been reduced. I have always noticed that Mobil oil causes more noise in engines.
I’ve been running 0w-30 in my Lexus for 20k miles which has the 2GR-FKS 3.5L V6 and I’ve noticed that it’s significantly quieter compared to 0w-20. Haven’t noticed any MPG improvements. 0w-30 has the same cold weight as 0w-20, but is slightly thicker when warmed up.
It's not the direct injection ticking either it sounds like a lash adjuster comes and goes everyone says that don't sound right then later it's gone about 23 ticks then silent. But it's not the vacuum pump either I'll post a video
2017 Lexus GX-460 with 120,000 miles (in Texas). Engine consumes basically zero oil over 5k OCI on Castrol Euro 5w-30 A3/B4 (high HTHS) vs TGMO 0w-20 over the same OCI (1.5qts). Engine also runs significantly smoother in cold (17F) And hot (111F) weather. No effect on MPG.
@@repairvehicle To add some detail, the vehicle consumed roughly .75qt to 1qt every OCI using TGMO 0w-20. That was 5 of the 10k oil change intervals and two 5k (if we count the factory fill getting changed at 10,000 miles, and I do). The two 5k OCI's starting at 50,000 miles resulted in roughly the same oil usage rate; both used .4-.5qts in 5,000 miles, also using 0w-20 TGMO.
@@jaycarl1562 I bought mine used. I also drive it hard. But I have two friends who have the same consumption issue even though they bought their 460's new.
I had a new BMW 320I in 1980. I used Amsoil and changed it every 21000 miles. I sold the car with 180000 miles and the inside of the valve cover looked new.
Before I saw this post, I’ve been hearing more about modern engines and oil consumption. Knowing that manufacturers engineers are driven by satisfying epa fuel goals, it’s not hard to figure out why the recommend 20 instead of 30 viscosity for less ring drag. I immediately switched to 30 viscosity because not on,y does it provide a better ring seal, it doesn’t evaporate as quickly and the better ring seal reduces unspent fuel from passing the rings and contaminating the crankcase oil. 30 weight will maintain it’s viscosity longer too. Change synthetic at 5,000 or less and you’ll burn less oil and increase the life of your engine.
the push to get higher mpg and meet stricter epa regulations and lower maintence costs is what has driven the push to lighter oils and ridiculously long oil change intervals in the usa, pure gov and marketing bs
I know how to solve this problem...I am buying an oil cap that says 5W30 and throwing away the one that came with the vehicle that says 0W16! I will keep track of the oil changes and when I hit 400,000 miles I will post the results. lol
Back in the early 2000s, Toyotas and VWs were through a sludging problem they commonly referred to as “gelling”. Toyota went to a full synthetic engine oil back in due to their VVTI systems and requiring thinner oils. They went to a 5W-30 and increased the frequency of the engine oil changes to 5000 miles. VW had BG make their engine oil that came with BG MOA. Much of those gelling issues began to disappear. IMO engine issues will increase by extending the engine oil change intervals. I still used BG EPR every 30,000 miles on all cars I service. I still recommend a 5,000 interval and the manufacturers engine oil recommendations.
In Pakistan 🇵🇰 Toyota recommends 5W-30 for 1ZR-FE and 2ZR-FE but they also happened to import these engines directly front Japan (fully assembled) and Toyota Pakistan just married the engine to the frame straight up and add engine oil etc. Toyota Japan and Toyota official recommends 0W-20 for their 1ZR-FE and 2ZR-FE Engines, so in that regards i started using the 0W-20 instead of 5W-30 and car feels relax, smooth, soundless and quicker and also MPG went up and engine doesn't feel too hot either. Overall 0W-20 is better for all of my Toyota cars now! 😅
@@zyi777 use 0w-20. If you’re using cheap low quality oil change it every 3k miles or 6 months which ever comes first. If use expensive high quality oil, then you can go up to 10k miles or 1 year which ever comes first. Otherwise, engine damage will happen and engine will be burning a lot of oil
I would like to see data showing the various oils true viscosity at 212 degrees F or 100 degrees C and see how close the stated viscosity is at true operating temps.
Honda Civic Type-R (Fk2, Fk8..) K20C1 engine USA manual: only 0w20 Europe manual: 0w30, 5w30 (ACEA A5 or A3: HTHS from 2.9 and higher..), or 0w20 Honda genuine oil Type 2.0 - developed to reduce fuel consumption - it literally says it there... So in this case 0w20 is just for mpg and nothing else.
I've never liked the fact that oils are getting so thin, and now it's down to 0w-8 which is crazy. I have 7 Toyotas and many of them use 0w-20 but I've always felt odd about using it in a turbocharged car. I own a 2023 GR Corolla which calls for 0w-20 but I've always wondered about 0w-30 or 5w-30 as I don't live in an area with brutally cold temps. Even in the winter it gets down into the 25F area only rarely and my cars are garaged where the temps will be warmer. I have used 5w-30 and I currently have 0w-30 Amsoil in my 2009 Corolla S that I turbocharged. I didn't really hear you talk about 0w-30 as being a good option. On another note, I hate the way Toyota and other manufacturers push the 10k mi,e oil change interval. It shows that it's for normal driving but only a small number of people would qualify as around 98% of drivers would fall into the severe category which calls for 5k mile oil change intervals. But do owners do this? Not most of them. Oil is cheap, engines are not. Don't even get me started about transmissions!
Even 5k for turbo is too long unless it’s highway driving. Low tension rings on all modern cars allow too much fuel to pass through down to the oil pan
@@repairvehicle Well that's just my general point for oil changes compared to the 10k mile intervals that manufacturers say is okay. And then you get companies like Amsoil saying it's okay to got 25k miles which is crazy. My GR Corolla says every 5k miles for normal driving and 2500 miles for severe driving which is what people should follow.
I use 0w16 in my 2020Toyota Camry . I am during an oil change shortly , my mileage is now 50, 100 . I have been changing oil / filter at 5000 miles . I will again use Amsoil OE 0w16 and Amsoil filter without any anti-friction additive for the second time . Though when I use Pennzoil Platinum 0w16 , Amsoil filter and 8 ounces of MotorKote . Engine seems to run much quieter and smoothly than with just Amsoil . I have used 3 times and again , BG EPR to flush out engine for the last time . As I believe it is too strong to use each time , anymore . And will go back to using Amsoil engine flush or Liqui-Moly as they are detergent based . When I change my oil it is a golden brown and I can clearly see thorugh it has it drains . Unlike so many others of their oil being BLACK when it is changed . I think with the thinner oils to use whatever anti-friction oil additive you want . As a safety factor against any potential abnormal wear .
Actually, they did change to 5w-20 for better fuel economy, 5w-20 gives +/-1% better gas mileage than 5w-30 because it put less friction to the engine parts, 1% may not sound as much but the Car makers are trying to square for every possible way to be with EPA regulations.
@@wwmilanl see the issue with the way that it works is a 0.2 percentage improvement that helps them over a whole product line to meet cafe standard. That's why start stop exist when the real world benefits are so small.
I can't say it's always true but I've seen a fuel economy hit when I had a 2GR-FE engined car run on 0W-20. I knew what the fuel economy was on 0W-30 so when I switched back to 0W-30 from the 0W-20 the dealership had put in, the fuel economy went back to normal. It's possible if I drove the vehicle more on the thinner oil it could've worn down some more and got a bit better fuel economy but I saw no purpose in doing that so I went back to the 0W-30.
In Pakistan, Toyota used 1ZR-FE and 2ZR-FE in Corolla Sedans and they recommend minimum of 5w30 and 5000KM oil changes. While same engine can take 0w20 in Japan or other countries but they don't recommend here, maybe due to temperature in summer reaches 45°C.
It’s all about the temperature your engine operates at. Oil viscosity is not static, it changes with operating temperature. It’s already been proven with testing from Amsoil, viscosity is what provides durability. Why do you think all marketing material states in subscript that testing claims are based on 5W30.
It commonly gets 40+deg here in Southern US, down to -9 every year. Highest I've seen is 44deg, lowest is -17 and the Hondas for the last 10 yrs are all 0w20 and the latest toyota are 0w16, even in temps I've mentioned. My 2013 honda 4cyl gets 0w20 for the oil change that serves in the winter, and 5w20 for the summer oil. There's a TH-cam video of a guy that has recorded his Accord for several years. It got to a full 1,000,000 miles on the original unopened engine in the same climate I live in, with 5w20. Seems too thin in summer, but facts speak louder than my feelings.
@@Resistculturaldecline Does depend on driving conditions somewhat. My 2022 corolla owners manual says that when towing or hauling heavier loads, a 5w-30 ''may provide better protection'', and that engine is designed for 0w-16 under normal circumstances. Although to be fair, I think that language is a carry over from a bygone era considering the GR yaris and GR Corolla both take 0w-20. Most cars can go up a grade and be fine too.
I switched my '16 Corolla to 5w30 at 200K miles. Now, I don't have to add any oil between 5K mile changes (was adding 1-1.5 quarts of that watery 0w20). Other markets with the exact same engine recommend various grades depending upon ambient temperature. The States only get one grade listing because of the EPA. My car is also quieter and I have not noticed a drop in the mileage.
@@repairvehicleplease define "fake" synthetic. Consumption at 30K miles? I'm not confident: that's been eight years and 200K miles ago now. Relevance of then with a brand new engine versus high mileage and broken in would be nice. Also: low tension rings and thinner oil will result in more blow-by and burning off. Both dealership and private shops recommended increase in viscosity to reduce this. Owner's manual clearly states that under hard driving, high speed operation, etc. to use an oil with a higher viscosity. Other markets with same engine give multiple grades for ambient operating temperature. I will not allow these details and facts to be ignored. Explanation and justification, please
Here we go with the VVT need thinner oil to work. Well, why does foreign countries in hotter areas able to use 5w-30 or even 10w-30 with the same engi e and VVT?
@repairvehicle , but how much hotter does the engine run when it has the same thermostat, radiator, etc? 10 degrees? And the oil has a viscosity rating for 30 weight oil. So your reasoning is that a 0W-16 oil would get really thinner in hotter temps
I have a 2016 rav4 I'm fixing to put 5-30 pennzoil ultra platinum in it if it runs like he@l then I will take it out.. BUT I believe it will be fine you make a great point thanks.. FROM TOM..
I stay in Dubai and have an imported American specs Lexus is350 2017 f sport driven almost 102k miles . Owners manual recommends 0W-20 oil only but due to high temperatures here upto 45 degrees Celsius in UAE many UAE specs Lexus owners use 5W-30 or higher viscosity oil, I was using 0W-20 since the past year even in high temperature, since last 2 oil changes I’ve switched to 5W-30 Mobil super full synthetic. Should I switch back to 0W-20 or keep using 5w-30?
@@repairvehicle thanks for your quick response , and also In winters should I switch back to 0W-20 or keep using 5W-30 ? and does oil brand really matter ? Been using Castrol magnatec since the past year , only switched to Mobil super this time. And also thanks for your video was informative and really helpful after so much of research , thanks and subscribed!
@nazishshaikh6082 , oil brand does matter and video coming soon. If temperature in the winter doesn’t go down to freezing temperatures then you can use 5w-30 otherwise use 0w-20.
12 months but I have in the past stretched it out to 18 months when I was driving only 2 k a year. I know this wasn’t best idea so now it’s every year .
For my North American 2022 Lexus IS 500 F Sport Performance with the 5.0L 8 -cyl Engine (2UR-GSE), Toyota defines 5W-30 every 6 months/5k miles in the owners manual.
@repairvehicle Thank you sir. Infrared exterior, white with geometric black trim interior. Turns out they only made 22 of my trim for the U.S. in 2022. I love it.
@repairvehicle I will be after the last Complimentary Service at the dealership in Mar 2023. I'll be using Amsoil Signature Series Synthetic 5W-30 motor oil and filters at 5k/6 month intervals.
My 2016 Honda CRV used to consume 3/4 quart of oil every 5K miles with 0w20. Then I switched to 5w30, oil consumption was reduced to 1/8 quart every 5K miles and the car runs much smoother.
2 Toyota Camrys. 1 2.5L with 0w20, the other a V6 with 5w30. both are 2010. 2.5L is shot at 200k, but was pushed to 266k, where it uses 3 quarts of oil every other day. The V6 is over 300k miles, and still going strong. Both vehicles are well maintained.
My 2016 Toyota Camry SE's owners manual says SAE 0W-20 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good starting in cold weather (I live in Pennsylvania, USA)! If SAE 0W-20 isn't available SAE 5W-20 oil may be used! However it must be replaced with SAE 0W-20 at the next oil change.
Thank you for this video. I have a 1994 JDM Toyota Hilux with a gas 4-cyl but the owner's manual is in Japanese so I've been guessing a bit with oil selection. I've been using full synthetic 5w-30, but it sounds like I could go more viscous if I wanted. Any thoughts? Is this video too old? Thanks again, great info.
It's interesting to me that while 0w-16 is recommended for all countries.. In the diagram it states "Expected temperature before oil change" ... My vehicle is never exposed to below zero temperatures... According to that chart it's 5w-30 all year around.. In turn that helps prevent blow by which in turn extends the oils life. The only cost.. a slight decrease in mpg... But an extended oil change interval. 0w-16... You're easily changing at 3-6k miles to get rid of gas that has blown by the cylinders.
In some engines with low-tension rings, a higher viscosity oil can increase oil usage. The low tension rings ride up on the more viscous film of oil, allowing that film of oil to enter the combustion area. Same way a lighter car will hydroplane more easily than a heavier car, assuming identical tires.
lighter cars aren't any more likely to hydroplane compared with a heavier car. Hydroplaning has to do with evacuation of water from under the tires more than anything. Insufficient tread depth and driving too fast is guaranteed way to hydroplane in any vehicle regardless of weight. Just remember, container ships float and they're in the thousands of tons. Oil control rings gumming up is more of design issue with them being low tension and pistons not providing sufficient cooling which allows them to gum up due to the high piston temperatures. The higher the spot temperatures in the engine, the more likely the oil will burn and carbonize in the ring landings especially if it's a thinner oil. Low viscosity oils are mostly for moderate to cold climate cold start benefits. There are no fuel economy benefits with thin oil when the ambient temperature is above 95F because the viscosity of these oils is at most 15 centistokes less than the thickest oil. 0W-16 vs 5W-50. The biggest difference between the oils is when cold or warm which are in the thousands or hundreds of centistokes respectively. Using a PAO oil such as the Mobil 1 European formula 0W-40 or Castrol Syntec 0W-40 or the Amsoil reduces oil consumption if there is any by half. "fake synethic" as the video author has alluded to is something specific to synthetic oil sold in the USA because European oil needs to be a PAO oil to be considered "synthetic" while in the USA, it just has to have additional processing done to it. @@Resistculturaldecline
Central California here, I use 5w20 in my v6 highlighter & Corolla. They burn no oil, 10k+ on the oil changes Using PUP penz ult plat & synthetic oil filters.
@@repairvehicle 97k on the Corolla,76k on the Highlander. Corolla is 2015, highlander2019. The Corolla is due in 1k and I just serviced the Highlander yesterday morning
how cold does your part of the UK get? there is much flow difference btwn 0 or 5 weight oil in the winter (0W, 5W). The operation temp viscosity (20) is probably more important. non turbo, the '20' is probably ok. Turbo, a '30' could be better...find a oil that is available and meets spec.
Hi. What about an 1994 Toyota hilux? It has a 2.8l diesel. These engines do put a lot of carbon into the oil. Going to put a 1-2micron bypass filter on. The viscosity is meant to be 15w40. Do you recommend a thinner oil?
Yeah, The Toyota dealership was changing the oil on my 2011 Camry every 10k miles then every 8k. Later it started to burn oil and it was very dark. I change it now every 4k and it is burning less and the oil looks much better. I use Mobil 1 0w-20. high mileage extended performance.
Dealership always add oil which cheapest. Not all dealer use Toyota oem oil than those cheap oil with 10 k oil change coz of service manual than problem start. Don't trust dealer even quick lube place like WalMart way better than those since you can choose any oil from their counter.
My Avalon 2008 still runs perfect, all i did was stick to the manufacturer stipulated 5w30. But many folks out here use 20w30 they claim its good to use thicker oil cause our weather here is always hot.
I have a 2016 Honda Civic 1.5 Turbo, Honda recommended 0W-20. I live in Los Angeles, California, what do you think about switching to 5W-30 because of California weather.
@@repairvehicle 84,783 is the mileage. I know you said thicker oil doesn’t mean it’s better. But I got another mechanic here saying trying thicker oil to get rid of that ticking sound noise. I’m currently using Amsoil Signature Series 0w-20 with not problems. Im still new to this oil tips so any advice would be helpful, I live in Los Angeles as well so the weather doesn’t get as cold as some areas so I was assuming maybe alittle thicker oil will help. What’s your thought?
I would not use thicker oil, it’s not needed and will create more problems. Ticking noise comes from injectors, high pressure pump and might be from valves, which is normal. You cannot and will not be able to distinguish difference.
I have 2006 Lexus is250 it has developed the common vvt rattle at cold start the car uses 5w-30, but a lot of ppl claim in Toyota forums that by using 0w-20 it will completely solve the start up rattle is this true? And if I use the thinner oil will it wear out my engine?
I mostly agree with you. However, I have ran into some interesting facts recently that has me scratching my head one the Mazda 2.5 L turbo uses 530 and the non-turbo uses zero20. They are the exact same engine from my understanding most all turbos use 530. Next pick up truck tog and SUV channel had a GM engineer stating that they engineer to run an engine over zero 20 but could take 530 as well. A lot of the members on Facebook and Tundra groups are moving to 530. I’m gonna do some more research and wait until my tundra is out of warranty.
They move to 5w-30 without providing any evidence that it actually better. I run 0w20 in my 5.7 Toyota and have zero wear on engine running oil for 10k miles. But I don’t use full synthetic oil either
@@repairvehicle Check Amsoil SS 5W20 does not have Acea A5/B5, but 5W30 does. Even 5W30 OE is rated A5/b5. Also, there is no 0W16 in Amsoil SS as you already know and that tells something.
Hi, what do you think about changing to 0w20 in a 2011 Nissan Sentra 2.0 with 60k miles that has always used 5w30, like it says in the users manual... the use of the car is very chill looking for economy and the oil consumpltion between changes is non existing
@@repairvehicle yes if its even possible... my concern would be sufficient oil pressure in hot conditions, but like toyota was recommending 5w30 in some somewhat old cars and then suddenly they recommend 0w20...
@@chumpilin stick with 5w30, best for engine protection(an engineer quoted saying). If you wanna to gain some economy. You can try 0w30, but everyone says maybe you gain 0.5% more mileage. Try synthetic tranny fluid, and add some aerodynamic vortex generators. Pro's would tell you the same, you do not go lower than what is recommended.
why change if everything is working fine? let off the gas sooner when approaching a stop. minimize sitting still (drive thru). stay closer to speed limit. ensure car doesn't have excess junk in the trunk. ensure tires are properly inflated (or 2-3 psi over - see sticker in driver door jam). That is how you get better economy. Switching to a thinner oil is not the answer.
The first oil change on my 2009 corolla with 115,000 (I just bought it) I used Supertech 5w-30 full synthetic high mileage oil. Not sure if that's right, the oil cap reads 0w-20 or 5w-20 which is pretty close to 5w-30 honestly.
I have a 2015 Subaru Forester in a moderate climate (SF bay area CA) at 88k mi. The manual says 0w20, but 5w30 has been recommended at higher mileage by some people. I've had one time where my oil light went on after 5k interval. Thoughts?
5w-30 will absolutely not cause cam phaser issues. Cold 0w-20 is thicker than warm 5w-30. So you would have cam phaser issues when the engine was cold and this is not the case. Toyota went to 0w-20 so that they could claim a slight increase in fuel economy due to the thinner oil causing less drag on the engine. In normal driving conditions a slight increase or even decrease in viscosity will have no detrimental effects. Oils can actually thin or thicken during an oil change interval on their own. I like this channel and the guy gives great info most of the time.
Yes! At 5:01 of the video you say, “Modern Toyota engines with variable valve timing need thinner oil otherwise cam phaser issue will be a common thing”. Which I agree with if you go drastically out of grade; however, the difference in a quality synthetic 5w-30 and a 0w-20 will not cause an issue. I’m not trying to get on your case, I have learned a lot from your videos and you definitely know more about these engines than I probably ever will. I’m currently running 5w-30 Valvoline restore and protect in a 2021 tundra with 42k miles on the clock. I’m in Oklahoma and it’s summer, so the truck doesn’t seem any different with thicker oil at all. I will more than likely change back to 0w-20 before winter to take advantage of the cold flow properties of the thinner oil on cold starts.
@@repairvehiclemy plan was 7500 miles since I do not tow often. I also make sure to run a quality group 3 synthetics as a minimum, and a top tier filter.
THANKS for mentioning the VVT! I get the argument that Toyota doesn't care about best wear case because they sell cars ....but, how do the oil manufacturers benefit? They also advertise 10k miles is O.K.
Toyota like all others in the business to sell more and not less. To sell more you need make low quality with high markups to satisfy investors. Low quality does not last and made from cheap low quality materials.
Due to high heat and fuel dilution I would not use 0w-20 in tundra turbo. Also, due to high heat and fuel dilution, I would not go on oil past 6 months or 3k miles which ever comes first low price full synthetic oil. Due to high heat and fuel dilution 5w-30 is definitely better choice and it should be replaced no longer than 6 months or 3k miles which comes first. If you choose high quality oil that comes with higher price tag then you can go longer between oil change.
Question I have 2010 Lexus IS 250 Awd In USA California, the oil cap says 5w30 whenever I take it gor oil change to Toyota Dealership they always put full synthetic but 0w20 Is it ok to run that oil if the cap says 5w30? I live in San Diego so its Warm all year around
When my car came out 0W20 GF6 oil was not invented so can I use signature series 0w20? Manual suggests 5W30 and I use signature series 5W30 but want to try 0W20 , will it hurt my engine? I have GDI 2.5 4GRFSE with 200000 miles
Oil weight is simple. The first number is how thick it is when the engine is cold. The second number is how thick it is when the engine is hot. When a engine has 200k miles on it the rings, cylinders, and bearings are worn out and have more space between them. You want thick oil so it can fill in the gap and keep a good coating of lubrication. Stay with 5w30 and if you see the oil pressure is low you could try 5w40 but prepare for a engine rebuild soon.
Hi, I have thought about this and decided to try the following but wanted to ask you as well: This is for my Acura J37 engine. It is recommended to use 5w-20 oil, however the engine starts to consume oil at around 2k miles after an oil change. I am thinking to try a light 5w-30 grade such as Pennzoil Platinum. It is a bit thicker than a thick 5w-20 oil but less heavy than other 5w-30 oils. It feels that 5w-20 oil is shearing and this J37 isn't easy on the oil. What do you think, will that scenario be safe and possibly provide positive results?
What is mileage on the car? How often oil has been changed? What brand of oil has been used? For how long you had this car? What brand of thicker oil planning to use and why?
@@repairvehicle The car has 125k miles and previous owner changed oil according to the maintenance minder in the car in acura dealership. I have this car for 3 years. I change oil every 3k miles with any 5w-20 full synthetic oil and have already tried pennzoil ultra platinum, acura full synthetic oil, super tech full synthetic and idemitsu full synthetic oil. The car just starts to consume oil at about 2k miles which leads me to believe the oil might be shearing. As a possibly solution I want to try pennzoil platinum 5w-30 oil as it is pretty light compared to other 5w-30 oils. Then if need be I could move to pennzoil ultra platinum as it is a bit thicker... I do have 5 qt of 5w-20 Amsoil OE which I am planning to try as well.
@@Charkatak I think you’re spot on. I use 5W30 in my brand new RDX. Runs perfectly fine. Standard platinum will give you a the high end of a 20 grade when operating at 100 Celsius and above.
15,000 mile intervals and never had any problems. However I used a 100% PAO Esther based oil which is obviously twice the price of "full synthetic" oils. My view is that using lower quality oils and changing more frequently is a false economy. However dealerships want the service revenue so they won't switch to a PAO Esther oil and stick with lower quality Synthetics.
@@repairvehicle I use Penrite product marketed as "Racing 5" but the brand isn't as important as using a Group IV/V oil instead of Group III. There are only 3 companies in the world that have the technology to produce PAO Esters as far as I know so no matter which brand you buy you are likely getting a very similar product.
What do you think of in a hot climate like Miami Florida. Using a 50/50 mix of 5w30, and 0w20 to try to achieve a 3W23 ... this is assuming your complete oil change is approx 6 quarts.
Hello.I use in summer 5w30 api sp for my hybrid Toyota Corolla cross,(summer temperature+40+42),and in autumn use 0w16 for winter. Is this will protect my engine? Thank you!
@@repairvehicle I will be changing the oil for the first time, the car is new. The mileage is 4000 km. I’m thinking of changing it now to Special Tec AA 5W-30 since the summer season is ahead and it’s very hot here. In winter I’ll fill it with 0w16 change oil every 5-6000 km will it be okay?
You didn't mention winter temps, but if it's usually around 0c, then I would think it would be the thing to do. My winters don't go much below 0c, I use the recommended 0W20, for summers which can be 35-45c, I use 0W30.
How can you tell if you are buying "fake synthetic" oil over fully synthetic ?? The bottles I buy specify it's full synthetic. Can it also be "fake" ??
My mom,s 201 Toyota Rav 4 specs out on 0-W-20 engine oil . As we all know it’s a very thin oil . I did read the owners manual that came with the car & it said that 5-W-30 can be used . I stick with the 0-w-20 & use Valvoline full synthetic oil. My advice to all is read the owners manual. . & change it at every 3,000 Milles I don’t go passed it . I’m wanting to try the Valvoline restore / Protect on the next oil change.🎉
0w 20 definitely does not help fuel mileage in my 2.5 L Toyota Camry. It’s a six speed automatic transmission. That is the reason why you get crappy fuel mileage most of the brand new modern cars today have the eight speed transmissions they are junk. I used to have a car with an eight speed transmission. It got very good gas mileage, and that oil was the same as what my Toyota calls for now I will be honest I just did an oil change on my Toyota. I put what was recommended. 0w 20 definitely no change in fuel economy whatsoever will be using 5W-30 next oil change to see if it will quiet down the 2.5 L
I have a Mitsubishi outlander, my recommended oil is 0w20 in the owners manual but the manual also states that I need to use the proper thickness oil for the temperature were I am driving. I live in Texas and the temperature reaches above 100 degree Fahrenheit. How high can I go in the viscosity or 0w20 ok for hot temperatures?
This video has details 0w-20 vs 5w-30 what is better in terms of protecting against wear? Brand of oil matters? th-cam.com/video/2RMAMAlWV-Y/w-d-xo.html
Hi there. My wife's 2011 v6 rav 4 calls for a 5w30, and i'm thinking about using 0W20 instead. My 2012 highlander v6 has the same engine and according to the manual is should only use Ow20. Would you agree with me if I use OW20 for both vehicles? I live somewhere in Alberta Canada (cold winters and warm summers)
I have a 2007 Honda Odyssey that says on the oil cap 5w-20. I would like to to use 5w-30, but I heard it would damage the variable valve system if I use a higher viscosity than a 20 weight oil. By the way I use Amsoil 0w-20 SS in my car. Could I use or would you recommend 5w-30/0w-30 in this van? Thanks...
I am from Ontario, CRV2008 2.4 engine, recommended oil 5W20. Switched to 5W30 in summer and 0W30 for winter around 30K ago, and now I have around 130 K. The engine is working better and quieter.
Friend, I’m moving down to South Carolina this month it doesn’t get below freezing in the winter. I really despise using the zero20 you study a lot more than me well I hurt the VTEC System if I use 5/30 oil full synthetic I change it every 4000 miles, I can’t understand how people get sucked into changing the oil every 10,000 miles or the Fram oil filter every 20,000 miles, 2013 was the last year they built a good car then they realize the cars last too long so they’re trying to make it so we have to buy into it
When I drove over 20,000 miles a year, I did a 15k mile OCI with full synthetics, as I only get 3 months of decent weather. Did that for 10 years with no problems. They were 80s Dodge turbos and they did fine. A GDI is probably not safe for that, fuel oil dillution, and todays cars have low tension piston rings, so I probably don't do that with modern cars. I also no longer drive that many miles per year.
Sir i live in the philippines which temp is 25-35C. I drive suzuki swift 2nd gen. Which oil should i use? 0w20 or 5w30? I lost my owners manual btw. Thanks!
What about Mazda. In there book it says 0w20 then right below it says if your in Mexico you can use 5w30? So what it your in Texas ? What changes going 10 miles south?
Higher temperatures than in, say, Los Vegas? Hardly. case closed. I use nothing less than a full synthetic 5W-20 in all my vehicles. Period. Nothing less than OW-20 full synthetic in the winter. I am in southern Ontario Canada. Max 3,000 Km/ oil change. Never have an issue.
The manual for my 2015 Toyota Rav 4 says to.use 0W-20 but says you can use 5w-20 . Then they state to use 0w-20 on the next oil change. Would you recommend that I stick with the Ow20 ? The vehivle has 105k miles. I Live in the uooer midwest. So summers are hot and humid andnwinters are cold
You can use 5w-20 or 5w-30, but thickness of the oil is not what protects against the wear, quality of the oil. It’s same reason why you bought tundra, quality over big horse power numbers
I live in extreme hot country , and my car is corolla 22 (m20a-fks) engine. I used 0w20 , but i smell like oil after long trips , the manual calls from 0w16 to 10w30 range , can i switch 5w30 safely . The milage is 30K miles
I try to use non resource conserving low SAPS oil (ACEA C3). In my WRX, I want an oil w/a higher HTHS number and resource conserving oils tend to fall out of grade sooner at higher temps....
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Do you recommend 5W-20 instead of 0W-20 (which Toyota do say to use) on my 2015 Yaris in the UK? Thanks.
I recommend using preferred viscosity recommended by Toyota
@@repairvehicle Thank you. My Jap specialist garage put 5W-20 in May last year.....because it was summer. I then put 0W-20 6 month later as i have 90,000 miles,it runs great! They're a great garage & i trust them. Appreciate this great video & all your other videos.
@@tardeliesmagic On my 2015 Sienna, it says use only 0w-20, it says one may use 5w-20 if 0w-20 is not available, but to return to 0w-20 at the next change. I have never been unable to find 0w-20, so that is all it has used(it has 160,000+ miles, no consumption, or leaks. Still runs like new. I have begun changing oil every 5,000 since it reached 140,000 as a safeguard)
@@tardeliesmagicGood, but did your car runs better in 0w-20 than 5w-20?
My opinion, I used to put 0W20 in my Chevy, Silverado.And it always made a lot of noise.Then I switched to 5W30.No more noise
What year is your Silverado?
Same for my 2011 Elantra ... calls for 5w20 / 0w20, but much quieter w/ 5w30 and using 0w30 for winter.
I noticed this as well. Not sure how it works. But it works.
@cosmicoven9042 it’s just an illusion.
Your engine is the problem, not the oil. That's it.
Yes,here in Guatemala, my rav4 uses 5w30 from the local oficial Toyota representative. In the manual also states you can use 0w20, 5w20 and 0w16 as long it Is Api Sn, SN plus or SP
I don't have a Toyota now but at one time I owned three of them. I now drive a 17 year old Honda with 230,000 miles on it and it does not use any oil between oil changes. I change the oil every 5,000 miles regardless of time. i started the car out on 5W-20 synthetic oil but when Honda started recommending 0W-20 oil I switched to it. The 0W-20 has been used since the car had 170,000 on it. I have had no issues with any oil related problems.
Thank you for sharing this
What model is your 17 year old Honda ?
how many about miles can it run continuously for a distance
It depends on maintenance
Short tripper, when the oil gets ton80C he shut it down, so it remains ticker thrn a 5w30 at 95C @@QKhueP
I live in Mexico, with climate in the summer up to 38 centigrades, I use 0w16 in two 2.5 litres 2019 engines. No issues, those actually on 0w16 work two centigrades cooler than 5w30 oil on the same engines. I do not race, cruising at 70 mph on a 37 centigrades highway oil stays at 95-96 centigrades. City driving on same conditions keeps oil at 85-86 centigrades on stop an go city driving.
Did not said: two Toyota A25A non hybrid engines on a Camry made in US A and Rav4 made in Japan.
My grandmas BMW X3 takes 0w-20 but I put 5w-30 because her car burned oil and now it’s fixed. I’ll probably stick to 0w-20 in the winter for her car
Personally here in Morocco 🇲🇦, I use 05W-30 as engine oil for my Toyota rav4 without any problem for every 5000 kms , I think it suits the temperature in the region .
conventional oil?
2AR-FE?
I live in tropical Mexico, with temperatures in summer of 95 Fahrenheit. Local toyota dealer uses 5w30 toyota non synthetic oil. After a year I changed to 0w16 as recommended in my Toyota manual. Oil temperature drop two centigrades with new thinner oil. I drive calmly in city but revs my engine when I hit the highway. I take it to 9000 kilometres before changing oil. So far so good, not oil consumption after a couple of years
Did you notice any changes in fuel economy? If yes, by how much?
Dear@@ced_ambience thanks for your question. Unfortunately my driving habits makes it very difficult to compare, I would say it is about the same MPG I am register after 0w16 oil. By the way this are two similar Toyota engines, 2.5 liters on Rav4 and Camry, both 2019 models. Both same oil history, both same results. Mobil1 0w16 has been the only brand that sells 0w16 in Mexico.
Mobil 1 0w16, compared to Toyota 0w16 oil are very similar, with the exception of Molybdenum, that Toyota oil comes with 755 ppm of Molybdenum vs Mobil 1 that registers only 81 ppm of same antifriction aditive Molybdenum. My last change has been pouring half can of liquimoly Ceratec to add Molybdenum and reach around 300 ppm of Molybdenum, my BlueDriver device test shows same working temperature but engines definetively rev faster with 150 ml of Ceratec into each one.
Hope this information helps, best wishes from Mazatlan, Mexico.
Makes me really consider amsoil 0w30 best of both worlds . I change my oil every 4-5k miles regularly so I’m sure 0w20 on my tundra is no issue and I also don’t drive it hard ever. Thanks for the video
I run 0w-20 signature series in 5.7 sequoia. 10k miles intervals and about 13 months of driving. Zero engine wear verified via oil analysis.
@@repairvehicle That is remarkable.
That's what I run since Amsoil offers it. **also, I live in south TX.* Otherwise, seeing the virgin oil analysis of 0w-16 for Toyota oil is very impressive not remotely like Mobil-1. Would like to see the 0w-20.
You gotta have some fun sometimes
I believe 0w30 is thicker than 5w 30 don’t hold me to it. But I believe it has to do with the friction modifier is that need to be added?
The only reason Toyota is pushing 10K miles in the USA is because of a marketing ploy and competition to show the new buyers that the vehicle will not have a lot of maintenance. It's sad but that's reality... Oil is always cheaper than getting a new engine...
I wish more people had same thoughts as you have about oil changes
Audi tried to tell me the same thing when I got my RS5. I laughed knowing that a high powered twin turbo engine would not last at all waiting a year between oil changes.
Yes don’t listen to dealers change your damn oil 3 to 5k miles
If you read the manual they recommend 10k mile changes under light duty otherwise it’s 5k.
People forget oil has two jobs which are lubrication and keeping the inside of the engine clean, and after about 7k or 8k miles it starts allowing sludge to form.
My 2010 FJ Cruiser ask for 0w20. But im in central America with a lot of heat and i use synthetic 5w30 as Toyota recomends for Australia and Middle East. Cero problems so far. Super happy. Cheers!
That's good to see, I don't trust 0W20 over 35C
My Toyota manuals also gives me a choice of oil weights to use depending on the temperature of the region. Here it goes below freezing once or twice a year. But rarely below 5 Celcius. And day time temps can easily be above 30 Celcius most summer days. So I use the thicker reccomendations
I say one should use what oil the manufacturer recommends. My 1GR-FE in my 2021 4Runner TRD ORP calls for 0W20 so that’s what I’ll use. 0W20 is full synthetic anyways, but I’ll probably just keep using Toyota 0W20 oil. There’s small orifices and channels that require a 0W20 oil and you can get into some trouble switching to a thicker oil. Also DON’T go 10k miles on an oil change as they recommend, change it every 6mos or 3k-5k miles. Great video brother!!
Except you are wrong about the oil orifices requiring 0w-20. Your same engine in other countries is allowed up to a 0w-30 or 5w-30 and it's the exact same engine. Most engine (not all) that specify a 0w-20 can go a grade higher a be fine. My owners manual specifies in writing that a 5w-30 is allowable despite a 0w-16 being reccomended for mpg and nothing else.
@@AEVMU no, not wrong. I said you CAN get into some trouble switching to a thicker oil. Doesn’t mean you will have any problems, but that it’s possible. You certainly can. Using a thicker oil and the owner listens to the incorrect advice and changes it every 10k miles, the oil gets dirty, it’s thicker, and smaller channels can get blocked up limiting oil being allowed to flow freely to other areas of the engine. It most certainly happens. Furthermore I said one should use what the manufacturer recommends. If they recommend something different in a different country than so be it, use that, but that doesn’t just mean that you can use said oil everywhere. Some manufacturers have slight differences in the engines in different countries. Typically that’s just things like emissions equipment either having it or not, but they don’t always tell us what’s different. The weights of oil recommended by the manufacturer has some to do with the engine internals, but slightly more to do with the climate the engine will be sold in. Such as a truck in South Africa or a truck in Alaska will have different weight oils recommended by the manufacturer.
@@KendrasEdge757 The oil orifices do not require a 0w-20. That is 100% wrong. If that engine can take thicker oil in any country, then the oil orifices can take a thicker oil period. ALL oil is too thick when cold anyway, even a 0w-8 is thicker when cold than a 15w-50 when hot, If oil orifices needed a 0w-20 than they would all fail when cold and all the oil would end up in the top end. Plus many 30 weight oils are thinner than many 20 weight oils when only 10c hotter and vice versa. Going up a half grade or a full grade is not going to negatively affect an engine except if you go too thin (0w-16 or below) in an engine not designed for it. Even my 2022 Corolla hybrid (Prius engine) owners manual, which is ''recommended'' to use 0w-16, specifically says a 5w-30 may provide better protection and is allowed. Cats get clogged due to the composition of the oil, not the viscosity and VVTI gears are perfectly fine with going up a grade as well, otherwise they would throw a code when 10c cooler than ideal operating temp, and yes, your engine will vary that much in temp depending on use/terrain. 0w-20 is recommended because in the US Toyota can't recommend anything other than what it was certified for, and mpg is part of the certification.
@@nicholasroberts9618 manuals say different specs in different areas of the country is my understanding. Whether you’re in northeast or southwest I’d imagine would recommend different viscosities of oil. For example, I’m in southeast area and this is copied from my manual:
8-1 Specifications: page 523
• Engine oil selection
"Toyota Genuine Motor Oil" is used in your Toyota vehicle. Use Toyota approved "Toyota Genuine Motor Oil" or equivalent to satisfy the following grade and viscosity.
Oil grade: ILSAC GF-5 multigrade engine oil
Recommended viscosity: SAE OW-20
SAE OW-20 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good starting in cold weather.
If SAE OW-20 is not available, SAE 5W-20 oil may be used. However, it must be replaced with SAE OW-20 at the next oil change.
• The OW in OW-20 indicates the characteristic of the oil which allows cold startability. Oils with a lower value before the W allow for easier starting of the engine in cold weather.
• The 20 in OW-20 indicates the viscosity characteristic of the oil when the oil is at high temperature. An oil with a higher viscosity (one with a higher value) may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high speeds, or under extreme load conditions.
One should stick with what their manual recommends.
@@nicholasroberts9618 ok cool.
I use Amsoil Signature series 0W-20 in my 08 Lexus LS460 👍
5w30 full synthetic
Every 5k miles
Toyota Tundra year round
Rocky MTN winters/ summers
What year and engine tundra do you have?
I'm convinced 5w30 full synthetic will work in just about every engine just fine.
In my country, Pakistan, Toyota recommends various viscosities ranging from 5w30 to 5w-50 for different ambient temperatures for the 2ZR-FE powered Corolla. This engine is still being offered in the Corolla here. 5w30 is filled from the factory. Since it is quite hot in the summers here, the Toyota manual for the corolla recommends 5w30 in winters and 10w30 in summers. 10w40 and 5w50 are recommended for extremely hot regions and/or for older engines. 0w20 is recommended as an all year round oil for hybrids only. I know, in the U.S., 0w20 is recommended for the 2ZR-FE. There have been reported 2ZR-FE failures using the 0w20 in the scorching 50C heat south of my country. I've been using 5w30 in winters and 10w30 in summers as per the Owner's manual recommendation, and never faced any problem. Over here, we use kms. I change the oil every 5000 kms or 6 months, which ever comes first. My corolla has accumulated 2,57000 kms and the engine still runs great. The car has undergone suspension work, though, but that is another story.
Synthetic oil or conventional oil you are using?
I'm using Toyota 5w30 semi synthetic in winters and Toyota 10w30 conventional in summers. Toyota oil, here, is blended by Mobil1 and Idemitsu. The Toyota 5w30 semi synthetic is blended by Mobil 1, and the 10w30 and 5w50 are blended by Idemitsu. 5w50 and the 0w20 (hybrid oil) are the only two full synthetic oils on offer under the Toyota Motor Oil brand in Pakistan. These viscosities are recommended for use in Pakistan's hot environment only, as per the owner's manual. We get the 1.6L 1ZR-FE and the 1.8L 2ZR-FE powered corollas here. There also used to be a 1.3L Corolla but that was discontinued and replaced by the Yaris Sedan in 2020.
@@alimujtaba747 Hello from Iran, i had a scary experience worth sharing. Hyundai IX 55 2009, asks for 5w-30, i opened the manual, it permitted 20w-50 oil, i went ahead and tried it, cuz it was a lot cheaper, new 20w-50 oil in, went for a test drive, 5 min in, a horrible sound of a sawing machine / rod knock started coming from engine, drove slowly to my mechanic luckly hes near me less than 1Km, he said turn it off now, few more km and you would have destroyed tappets on your valves, we drained it and refilled with 5w-30, i was lucky noise went away.
With my aunt who is kinda sketchy and sits her car around in parking lots idling for hours on end, even though her car says 0w-20 I give her car 5w-30 because I find at the end of the interval her car has more oil when using 5w-30. With 0w-20 her car has 2qt left after 5000 miles but with 5w-30 she still has 3.5-4qt at 5000 miles
Your aunt has very neglected car, not maintained at all
@@repairvehicle I try and maintain it when I can. It's her life, I'm sure she's "making deals" while sitting in parking lots idling but that's not my business. I help all my family when they ask, no questions.
Based on all I know you are better off occasionally refilling with 5W20 than using thicker engine oil. But even if you refill, still get regular oil changes.
New RAV4, 1st oil change at 1,000 miles. New oil is Amsoil Signature 0W30 for year round use in MN.
In my manual it clearly states that the hybrid toy I have should get 0w20 and that it's acceptable to put 5w30 for example but should be changed back to 0w20 as soon as possible. But when you go for maintenance at Toyota they always put 5w30.. if Toyota engineers says 0w20 it should be that and not another..
0w-20 vs 5w-30 what is better in terms of protecting against wear? Brand of oil matters?
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In Mexico, the original Toyota 5W30 oil was manufactured in the USA by Mobil, now in 2024 it is manufactured by Idemitsu in Mexico and since the change of manufacturer the engine noise has been reduced. I have always noticed that Mobil oil causes more noise in engines.
I agree. For some reason Mobil oil causes more engine noise. Especially ones with timing chains.
I’ve been running 0w-30 in my Lexus for 20k miles which has the 2GR-FKS 3.5L V6 and I’ve noticed that it’s significantly quieter compared to 0w-20. Haven’t noticed any MPG improvements. 0w-30 has the same cold weight as 0w-20, but is slightly thicker when warmed up.
What is the reason for running 0w-30?
I want to run 0w30 in my 17 tacoma it has 2grfks it has a ticking and it's not the one they are known for it's another ticking
Direct injection ticking and injection pump ticking is normal
It's not the direct injection ticking either it sounds like a lash adjuster comes and goes everyone says that don't sound right then later it's gone about 23 ticks then silent. But it's not the vacuum pump either I'll post a video
I am not talking about vacuum pump. I’m talking about high pressure injection pump that creates ticking noise
2017 Lexus GX-460 with 120,000 miles (in Texas). Engine consumes basically zero oil over 5k OCI on Castrol Euro 5w-30 A3/B4 (high HTHS) vs TGMO 0w-20 over the same OCI (1.5qts). Engine also runs significantly smoother in cold (17F) And hot (111F) weather. No effect on MPG.
how many miles did you put on your Lexus with 5w-30?
@@repairvehicle I started using it at 60k miles. I'm at 120k now. So about 60k miles.
@@repairvehicle To add some detail, the vehicle consumed roughly .75qt to 1qt every OCI using TGMO 0w-20. That was 5 of the 10k oil change intervals and two 5k (if we count the factory fill getting changed at 10,000 miles, and I do). The two 5k OCI's starting at 50,000 miles resulted in roughly the same oil usage rate; both used .4-.5qts in 5,000 miles, also using 0w-20 TGMO.
2016 GX460, used 0w20 at 5k oci, 114,000 miles, burns no oil between oci. Your 2017 has issues mine obviously doesn't.
@@jaycarl1562 I bought mine used. I also drive it hard. But I have two friends who have the same consumption issue even though they bought their 460's new.
I had a new BMW 320I in 1980. I used Amsoil and changed it every 21000 miles. I sold the car with 180000 miles and the inside of the valve cover looked new.
Are you still driving bmw?
@@repairvehicle No. I have a 2016 Mazda6 and a 2025 Toyota Camry. I would never buy a BMW again. Their quality went downhill in the 80's.
Before I saw this post, I’ve been hearing more about modern engines and oil consumption.
Knowing that manufacturers engineers are driven by satisfying epa fuel goals, it’s not hard to figure out why the recommend 20 instead of 30 viscosity for less ring drag.
I immediately switched to 30 viscosity because not on,y does it provide a better ring seal, it doesn’t evaporate as quickly and the better ring seal reduces unspent fuel from passing the rings and contaminating the crankcase oil.
30 weight will maintain it’s viscosity longer too.
Change synthetic at 5,000 or less and you’ll burn less oil and increase the life of your engine.
where did you get this that thicker oil provide better ring seal?
the push to get higher mpg and meet stricter epa regulations and lower maintence costs is what has driven the push to lighter oils and ridiculously long oil change intervals in the usa, pure gov and marketing bs
I know how to solve this problem...I am buying an oil cap that says 5W30 and throwing away the one that came with the vehicle that says 0W16! I will keep track of the oil changes and when I hit 400,000 miles I will post the results. lol
Back in the early 2000s, Toyotas and VWs were through a sludging problem they commonly referred to as “gelling”. Toyota went to a full synthetic engine oil back in due to their VVTI systems and requiring thinner oils. They went to a 5W-30 and increased the frequency of the engine oil changes to 5000 miles. VW had BG make their engine oil that came with BG MOA. Much of those gelling issues began to disappear. IMO engine issues will increase by extending the engine oil change intervals. I still used BG EPR every 30,000 miles on all cars I service. I still recommend a 5,000 interval and the manufacturers engine oil recommendations.
Toyota was using 5w-30 from the beginning, its in their owners manual.
@@repairvehicle not my camry its 5w20 or ow20
What year is your Camry
@@repairvehicle 07 with 2.4L I use 0w20 or 5w20 it says on oil cap
Yes in 4 cylinder 0w-20 or 5w-20, in v6 5w-30
In Pakistan 🇵🇰 Toyota recommends 5W-30 for 1ZR-FE and 2ZR-FE but they also happened to import these engines directly front Japan (fully assembled) and Toyota Pakistan just married the engine to the frame straight up and add engine oil etc. Toyota Japan and Toyota official recommends 0W-20 for their 1ZR-FE and 2ZR-FE Engines, so in that regards i started using the 0W-20 instead of 5W-30 and car feels relax, smooth, soundless and quicker and also MPG went up and engine doesn't feel too hot either. Overall 0W-20 is better for all of my Toyota cars now! 😅
Thank you for sharing this information!
I been told use 0w 20 in my Corolla hybrid 2ZR-FX after 96000 Kilometres use 5w 30 is this information correct
False information
What's the correct Information please
@@zyi777 use 0w-20. If you’re using cheap low quality oil change it every 3k miles or 6 months which ever comes first. If use expensive high quality oil, then you can go up to 10k miles or 1 year which ever comes first. Otherwise, engine damage will happen and engine will be burning a lot of oil
I would like to see data showing the various oils true viscosity at 212 degrees F or 100 degrees C and see how close the stated viscosity is at true operating temps.
Viscosity numbers not actual because they have to be in within range and that’s why every brand and every viscosity number is different
Honda Civic Type-R (Fk2, Fk8..) K20C1 engine
USA manual: only 0w20
Europe manual: 0w30, 5w30 (ACEA A5 or A3: HTHS from 2.9 and higher..), or 0w20 Honda genuine oil Type 2.0 - developed to reduce fuel consumption - it literally says it there...
So in this case 0w20 is just for mpg and nothing else.
Subscribe to my channel and in about 3 weeks I will have lab results as proof of one or other
I've never liked the fact that oils are getting so thin, and now it's down to 0w-8 which is crazy. I have 7 Toyotas and many of them use 0w-20 but I've always felt odd about using it in a turbocharged car. I own a 2023 GR Corolla which calls for 0w-20 but I've always wondered about 0w-30 or 5w-30 as I don't live in an area with brutally cold temps. Even in the winter it gets down into the 25F area only rarely and my cars are garaged where the temps will be warmer. I have used 5w-30 and I currently have 0w-30 Amsoil in my 2009 Corolla S that I turbocharged. I didn't really hear you talk about 0w-30 as being a good option.
On another note, I hate the way Toyota and other manufacturers push the 10k mi,e oil change interval. It shows that it's for normal driving but only a small number of people would qualify as around 98% of drivers would fall into the severe category which calls for 5k mile oil change intervals. But do owners do this? Not most of them. Oil is cheap, engines are not. Don't even get me started about transmissions!
Even 5k for turbo is too long unless it’s highway driving. Low tension rings on all modern cars allow too much fuel to pass through down to the oil pan
@@repairvehicle Well that's just my general point for oil changes compared to the 10k mile intervals that manufacturers say is okay. And then you get companies like Amsoil saying it's okay to got 25k miles which is crazy. My GR Corolla says every 5k miles for normal driving and 2500 miles for severe driving which is what people should follow.
0w30 works in 0w20 toyota engines. While under warranty, use 0w20.
Depends on what country/climate area are you from. First SAE number for first (cold) start, second number for average running.
I use 0w16 in my 2020Toyota Camry . I am during an oil change shortly , my mileage is now 50, 100 . I have been changing oil / filter at 5000 miles . I will again use Amsoil OE 0w16 and Amsoil filter without any anti-friction additive for the second time . Though when I use Pennzoil Platinum 0w16 , Amsoil filter and 8 ounces of MotorKote . Engine seems to run much quieter and smoothly than with just Amsoil . I have used 3 times and again , BG EPR to flush out engine for the last time . As I believe it is too strong to use each time , anymore . And will go back to using Amsoil engine flush or Liqui-Moly as they are detergent based . When I change my oil it is a golden brown and I can clearly see thorugh it has it drains . Unlike so many others of their oil being BLACK when it is changed . I think with the thinner oils to use whatever anti-friction oil additive you want . As a safety factor against any potential abnormal wear .
Actually, they did change to 5w-20 for better fuel economy, 5w-20 gives +/-1% better gas mileage than 5w-30 because it put less friction to the engine parts, 1% may not sound as much but the Car makers are trying to square for every possible way to be with EPA regulations.
Do you have an actual proof that it gives 1% better fuel economy?
@@repairvehicle There are Studies that I seen by Ford and Toyota will need to search for then
@@wwmilanl see the issue with the way that it works is a 0.2 percentage improvement that helps them over a whole product line to meet cafe standard. That's why start stop exist when the real world benefits are so small.
It’s no friction, because oil )))
I can't say it's always true but I've seen a fuel economy hit when I had a 2GR-FE engined car run on 0W-20. I knew what the fuel economy was on 0W-30 so when I switched back to 0W-30 from the 0W-20 the dealership had put in, the fuel economy went back to normal. It's possible if I drove the vehicle more on the thinner oil it could've worn down some more and got a bit better fuel economy but I saw no purpose in doing that so I went back to the 0W-30.
In Pakistan, Toyota used 1ZR-FE and 2ZR-FE in Corolla Sedans and they recommend minimum of 5w30 and 5000KM oil changes. While same engine can take 0w20 in Japan or other countries but they don't recommend here, maybe due to temperature in summer reaches 45°C.
5000 km oil change? That's absurdly low.
It’s all about the temperature your engine operates at. Oil viscosity is not static, it changes with operating temperature. It’s already been proven with testing from Amsoil, viscosity is what provides durability. Why do you think all marketing material states in subscript that testing claims are based on 5W30.
It commonly gets 40+deg here in Southern US, down to -9 every year. Highest I've seen is 44deg, lowest is -17 and the Hondas for the last 10 yrs are all 0w20 and the latest toyota are 0w16, even in temps I've mentioned.
My 2013 honda 4cyl gets 0w20 for the oil change that serves in the winter, and 5w20 for the summer oil. There's a TH-cam video of a guy that has recorded his Accord for several years. It got to a full 1,000,000 miles on the original unopened engine in the same climate I live in, with 5w20. Seems too thin in summer, but facts speak louder than my feelings.
@@Resistculturaldecline Does depend on driving conditions somewhat. My 2022 corolla owners manual says that when towing or hauling heavier loads, a 5w-30 ''may provide better protection'', and that engine is designed for 0w-16 under normal circumstances. Although to be fair, I think that language is a carry over from a bygone era considering the GR yaris and GR Corolla both take 0w-20. Most cars can go up a grade and be fine too.
@@AEVMU Yea, they're probably taking into consideration that towing in hot weather resulting in a 20ish degree rise in oil temp.
I switched my '16 Corolla to 5w30 at 200K miles. Now, I don't have to add any oil between 5K mile changes (was adding 1-1.5 quarts of that watery 0w20). Other markets with the exact same engine recommend various grades depending upon ambient temperature. The States only get one grade listing because of the EPA. My car is also quieter and I have not noticed a drop in the mileage.
Did you have oil consumption at 30k miles ?
Problem is not with viscosity is running fake synthetic for 5k miles. It should have been changed every 3k miles
@@repairvehicleplease define "fake" synthetic. Consumption at 30K miles? I'm not confident: that's been eight years and 200K miles ago now. Relevance of then with a brand new engine versus high mileage and broken in would be nice. Also: low tension rings and thinner oil will result in more blow-by and burning off. Both dealership and private shops recommended increase in viscosity to reduce this. Owner's manual clearly states that under hard driving, high speed operation, etc. to use an oil with a higher viscosity. Other markets with same engine give multiple grades for ambient operating temperature.
I will not allow these details and facts to be ignored. Explanation and justification, please
Here we go with the VVT need thinner oil to work. Well, why does foreign countries in hotter areas able to use 5w-30 or even 10w-30 with the same engi e and VVT?
Hotter weather thins out oil regardless of viscosity but stays within coolant range
@repairvehicle , but how much hotter does the engine run when it has the same thermostat, radiator, etc? 10 degrees? And the oil has a viscosity rating for 30 weight oil. So your reasoning is that a 0W-16 oil would get really thinner in hotter temps
I have a 2016 rav4 I'm fixing to put 5-30 pennzoil ultra platinum in it if it runs like he@l then I will take it out.. BUT I believe it will be fine you make a great point thanks.. FROM TOM..
I stay in Dubai and have an imported American specs Lexus is350 2017 f sport driven almost 102k miles . Owners manual recommends 0W-20 oil only but due to high temperatures here upto 45 degrees Celsius in UAE many UAE specs Lexus owners use 5W-30 or higher viscosity oil,
I was using 0W-20 since the past year even in high temperature, since last 2 oil changes I’ve switched to 5W-30 Mobil super full synthetic. Should I switch back to 0W-20 or keep using 5w-30?
Use 5w-30
@@repairvehicle thanks for your quick response , and also In winters should I switch back to 0W-20 or keep using 5W-30 ? and does oil brand really matter ? Been using Castrol magnatec since the past year , only switched to Mobil super this time. And also thanks for your video was informative and really helpful after so much of research , thanks and subscribed!
@nazishshaikh6082 , oil brand does matter and video coming soon. If temperature in the winter doesn’t go down to freezing temperatures then you can use 5w-30 otherwise use 0w-20.
@@repairvehiclethank you so much for your response! Will be using 5W-30 for a while
5w30 amsoil signature series for 20000KM
12 months but I have in the past stretched it out to 18 months when I was driving only 2 k a year. I know this wasn’t best idea so now it’s every year .
For my North American 2022 Lexus IS 500 F Sport Performance with the 5.0L 8 -cyl Engine (2UR-GSE), Toyota defines 5W-30 every 6 months/5k miles in the owners manual.
High performance car that’s a why it needs short term oil change
By the way very nice car
@repairvehicle Thank you sir. Infrared exterior, white with geometric black trim interior. Turns out they only made 22 of my trim for the U.S. in 2022. I love it.
@@Cleofizoid are you changing oil yourself?
@repairvehicle I will be after the last Complimentary Service at the dealership in Mar 2023. I'll be using Amsoil Signature Series Synthetic 5W-30 motor oil and filters at 5k/6 month intervals.
My 2016 Honda CRV used to consume 3/4 quart of oil every 5K miles with 0w20. Then I switched to 5w30, oil consumption was reduced to 1/8 quart every 5K miles and the car runs much smoother.
What was the mileage when you switched to 5w-30?
Im living in a very hot country, everyday its 40 to 45 degree celcius, im using 5w30, im driving toyota Rav4 2015
Thank you for sharing this
@@repairvehicle our question is the difference of 0w20 vs 5w30 is very far? What is the long term effect?
It depends on oil quality and oil change intervals.
@@repairvehicle im changing oil every 5000km using original fully synthetic 5w30
2 Toyota Camrys. 1 2.5L with 0w20, the other a V6 with 5w30. both are 2010. 2.5L is shot at 200k, but was pushed to 266k, where it uses 3 quarts of oil every other day. The V6 is over 300k miles, and still going strong. Both vehicles are well maintained.
how often oil was changed?
with that much oil consumption, its considered poorly maintained.
My 2016 Toyota Camry SE's owners manual says SAE 0W-20 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good starting in cold weather (I live in Pennsylvania, USA)! If SAE 0W-20 isn't available SAE 5W-20 oil may be used! However it must be replaced with SAE 0W-20 at the next oil change.
This statement in every Toyota manual since 2010
Thank you for this video. I have a 1994 JDM Toyota Hilux with a gas 4-cyl but the owner's manual is in Japanese so I've been guessing a bit with oil selection. I've been using full synthetic 5w-30, but it sounds like I could go more viscous if I wanted. Any thoughts? Is this video too old? Thanks again, great info.
Engine protection is not dependent on oil thickness but on oil quality
It's interesting to me that while 0w-16 is recommended for all countries.. In the diagram it states "Expected temperature before oil change" ... My vehicle is never exposed to below zero temperatures... According to that chart it's 5w-30 all year around.. In turn that helps prevent blow by which in turn extends the oils life. The only cost.. a slight decrease in mpg... But an extended oil change interval. 0w-16... You're easily changing at 3-6k miles to get rid of gas that has blown by the cylinders.
In what country do you live?
I’m on the west coast of North America. Lowest temp we see is 45 F
Blow by happens regardless of oil viscosity. 0w-20 is not recommended in all countries.
In some engines with low-tension rings, a higher viscosity oil can increase oil usage. The low tension rings ride up on the more viscous film of oil, allowing that film of oil to enter the combustion area. Same way a lighter car will hydroplane more easily than a heavier car, assuming identical tires.
lighter cars aren't any more likely to hydroplane compared with a heavier car. Hydroplaning has to do with evacuation of water from under the tires more than anything. Insufficient tread depth and driving too fast is guaranteed way to hydroplane in any vehicle regardless of weight. Just remember, container ships float and they're in the thousands of tons. Oil control rings gumming up is more of design issue with them being low tension and pistons not providing sufficient cooling which allows them to gum up due to the high piston temperatures. The higher the spot temperatures in the engine, the more likely the oil will burn and carbonize in the ring landings especially if it's a thinner oil. Low viscosity oils are mostly for moderate to cold climate cold start benefits. There are no fuel economy benefits with thin oil when the ambient temperature is above 95F because the viscosity of these oils is at most 15 centistokes less than the thickest oil. 0W-16 vs 5W-50. The biggest difference between the oils is when cold or warm which are in the thousands or hundreds of centistokes respectively. Using a PAO oil such as the Mobil 1 European formula 0W-40 or Castrol Syntec 0W-40 or the Amsoil reduces oil consumption if there is any by half. "fake synethic" as the video author has alluded to is something specific to synthetic oil sold in the USA because European oil needs to be a PAO oil to be considered "synthetic" while in the USA, it just has to have additional processing done to it. @@Resistculturaldecline
Here in NE Wisconsin I run 0w 20 year round and change every 5k. 108k issue free miles on my 2GRFE in my Highlander!
OW20 is rated to 85F , your average temps per the internet are 78F in the summer, so I would hope so...
Central California here, I use 5w20 in my v6 highlighter & Corolla. They burn no oil, 10k+ on the oil changes Using PUP penz ult plat & synthetic oil filters.
@uncleKai_SWW what is the mileage on the cars?
@@repairvehicle 97k on the Corolla,76k on the Highlander. Corolla is 2015, highlander2019. The Corolla is due in 1k and I just serviced the Highlander yesterday morning
Do you recommend 5W-20 instead of 0W-20 (which Toyota do say to use) on my 2015 Yaris here in the UK? Thanks.
how cold does your part of the UK get? there is much flow difference btwn 0 or 5 weight oil in the winter (0W, 5W). The operation temp viscosity (20) is probably more important. non turbo, the '20' is probably ok. Turbo, a '30' could be better...find a oil that is available and meets spec.
5W/30 full synthetic for everything. Fuel consumption MIGHT go up slightly.
Hi. What about an 1994 Toyota hilux? It has a 2.8l diesel. These engines do put a lot of carbon into the oil. Going to put a 1-2micron bypass filter on. The viscosity is meant to be 15w40. Do you recommend a thinner oil?
It depends on the climate weather
Yeah, The Toyota dealership was changing the oil on my 2011 Camry every 10k miles then every 8k. Later it started to burn oil and it was very dark. I change it now every 4k and it is burning less and the oil looks much better. I use Mobil 1 0w-20. high mileage extended performance.
Damage has been done by 10k miles oil change intervals with low quality oil
Go up to 5w30 and change it every 5k miles...
Dealership always add oil which cheapest. Not all dealer use Toyota oem oil than those cheap oil with 10 k oil change coz of service manual than problem start. Don't trust dealer even quick lube place like WalMart way better than those since you can choose any oil from their counter.
@@repairvehicle Which "Low Quality Oil" are you refering too?
Low price
My Avalon 2008 still runs perfect, all i did was stick to the manufacturer stipulated 5w30. But many folks out here use 20w30 they claim its good to use thicker oil cause our weather here is always hot.
Depends how hot, but 10w30 or 10w40 is fine. 20w50 is really thick.
Ya i was getting confused, Ill use 5w30
I have a 2016 Honda Civic 1.5 Turbo, Honda recommended 0W-20. I live in Los Angeles, California, what do you think about switching to 5W-30 because of California weather.
What are you trying to achieve?
What is the mileage?
@@repairvehicle 84,783 is the mileage. I know you said thicker oil doesn’t mean it’s better. But I got another mechanic here saying trying thicker oil to get rid of that ticking sound noise. I’m currently using Amsoil Signature Series 0w-20 with not problems. Im still new to this oil tips so any advice would be helpful, I live in Los Angeles as well so the weather doesn’t get as cold as some areas so I was assuming maybe alittle thicker oil will help. What’s your thought?
I would not use thicker oil, it’s not needed and will create more problems. Ticking noise comes from injectors, high pressure pump and might be from valves, which is normal. You cannot and will not be able to distinguish difference.
@@repairvehicle thank you.
You are welcome
I have 2006 Lexus is250 it has developed the common vvt rattle at cold start the car uses 5w-30, but a lot of ppl claim in Toyota forums that by using 0w-20 it will completely solve the start up rattle is this true? And if I use the thinner oil will it wear out my engine?
What did I say in the video about 0w-20?
@xls it depends upon your car mileage and ambient temperature. Kindly share both
In Vietnam, we ran both kind of oil. In the North cold we ran 0w-20, in the South warn we run 5w-30
I mostly agree with you. However, I have ran into some interesting facts recently that has me scratching my head one the Mazda 2.5 L turbo uses 530 and the non-turbo uses zero20. They are the exact same engine from my understanding most all turbos use 530. Next pick up truck tog and SUV channel had a GM engineer stating that they engineer to run an engine over zero 20 but could take 530 as well. A lot of the members on Facebook and Tundra groups are moving to 530. I’m gonna do some more research and wait until my tundra is out of warranty.
They move to 5w-30 without providing any evidence that it actually better. I run 0w20 in my 5.7 Toyota and have zero wear on engine running oil for 10k miles. But I don’t use full synthetic oil either
@@repairvehicle Check Amsoil SS 5W20 does not have Acea A5/B5, but 5W30 does. Even 5W30 OE is rated A5/b5. Also, there is no 0W16 in Amsoil SS as you already know and that tells something.
Hi, what do you think about changing to 0w20 in a 2011 Nissan Sentra 2.0 with 60k miles that has always used 5w30, like it says in the users manual... the use of the car is very chill looking for economy and the oil consumpltion between changes is non existing
If owners manual recommends 5w-30 then use 5w-30. Are you looking to improve fuel economy?
@@repairvehicle yes if its even possible... my concern would be sufficient oil pressure in hot conditions, but like toyota was recommending 5w30 in some somewhat old cars and then suddenly they recommend 0w20...
did you watch this video without skipping?
@@chumpilin stick with 5w30, best for engine protection(an engineer quoted saying). If you wanna to gain some economy. You can try 0w30, but everyone says maybe you gain 0.5% more mileage. Try synthetic tranny fluid, and add some aerodynamic vortex generators.
Pro's would tell you the same, you do not go lower than what is recommended.
why change if everything is working fine? let off the gas sooner when approaching a stop. minimize sitting still (drive thru). stay closer to speed limit. ensure car doesn't have excess junk in the trunk. ensure tires are properly inflated (or 2-3 psi over - see sticker in driver door jam). That is how you get better economy. Switching to a thinner oil is not the answer.
The first oil change on my 2009 corolla with 115,000 (I just bought it) I used Supertech 5w-30 full synthetic high mileage oil. Not sure if that's right, the oil cap reads 0w-20 or 5w-20 which is pretty close to 5w-30 honestly.
I have a 2015 Subaru Forester in a moderate climate (SF bay area CA) at 88k mi. The manual says 0w20, but 5w30 has been recommended at higher mileage by some people. I've had one time where my oil light went on after 5k interval. Thoughts?
Oil became garbage at 5k interval. This video has more details Why oil pressure drops?
th-cam.com/video/rAF-cNdT7SY/w-d-xo.html
Oil light came on cause you went 5,000 miles and is now low on oil. Best would be 4k just so you know you're not running it low and dirty.
5w-30 will absolutely not cause cam phaser issues. Cold 0w-20 is thicker than warm 5w-30. So you would have cam phaser issues when the engine was cold and this is not the case. Toyota went to 0w-20 so that they could claim a slight increase in fuel economy due to the thinner oil causing less drag on the engine. In normal driving conditions a slight increase or even decrease in viscosity will have no detrimental effects. Oils can actually thin or thicken during an oil change interval on their own. I like this channel and the guy gives great info most of the time.
Did I say it will cause cam phasers?
Yes! At 5:01 of the video you say, “Modern Toyota engines with variable valve timing need thinner oil otherwise cam phaser issue will be a common thing”. Which I agree with if you go drastically out of grade; however, the difference in a quality synthetic 5w-30 and a 0w-20 will not cause an issue. I’m not trying to get on your case, I have learned a lot from your videos and you definitely know more about these engines than I probably ever will. I’m currently running 5w-30 Valvoline restore and protect in a 2021 tundra with 42k miles on the clock. I’m in Oklahoma and it’s summer, so the truck doesn’t seem any different with thicker oil at all. I will more than likely change back to 0w-20 before winter to take advantage of the cold flow properties of the thinner oil on cold starts.
@nickthompson529 , thanks for being honest, appreciated.
@nickthompson529 how often do you change your oil in tundra?
@@repairvehiclemy plan was 7500 miles since I do not tow often. I also make sure to run a quality group 3 synthetics as a minimum, and a top tier filter.
My wife's 2019 toyota corolla xse calls for 0w16 witch i us in thw winter but in the summer i us 0w20
What you say I just bought 2021 toyota highlander xle hibryd awd and used 0w16 change oil every 10 000 miles please tell me you advice..thank you
Change your oil every 5k miles or 12 months which ever comes first
@@repairvehicle I think 0 w 16 Is bulshit oil scam for money and 10 000 miles is to much toyota disappointment me a lot with this ..what you think
10k is industry standard, hurts consumers but helps dealers. Actually TOYOTA still leader in quality and engineering.
5,000 miles max. No way going to 10,000 miles is asking for trouble.
@@freespiritagent thank you that's what I thought but dealer is refusing to change oil stupid
THANKS for mentioning the VVT! I get the argument that Toyota doesn't care about best wear case because they sell cars ....but, how do the oil manufacturers benefit? They also advertise 10k miles is O.K.
Selling low quality oil at higher markups by fooling people with marketing false claims.
Toyota like all others in the business to sell more and not less. To sell more you need make low quality with high markups to satisfy investors. Low quality does not last and made from cheap low quality materials.
Mobil 1 5W30, ACEA C2 (DPF) LC J150 3.0L diesel, 2012. 3k miles oil/filter change, Spain, Europe.
5W-30, is a safe bet, but on toyota hybrids, 0-16 must be followed, regardless of temps, it is a close tolerance engine. and synthetic oil is a MUST
Close tolerance engine is a bs statement, owners manual states if 16 is not available use 20.
What viscosity should I use in my 2024 toyota tundra v6 turbo?
Due to high heat and fuel dilution I would not use 0w-20 in tundra turbo.
Also, due to high heat and fuel dilution, I would not go on oil past 6 months or 3k miles which ever comes first low price full synthetic oil.
Due to high heat and fuel dilution 5w-30 is definitely better choice and it should be replaced no longer than 6 months or 3k miles which comes first.
If you choose high quality oil that comes with higher price tag then you can go longer between oil change.
Question I have 2010 Lexus IS 250 Awd
In USA California, the oil cap says 5w30 whenever I take it gor oil change to Toyota Dealership they always put full synthetic but 0w20
Is it ok to run that oil if the cap says 5w30?
I live in San Diego so its Warm all year around
Run 5w-30. Running thin oil in hot weather is not recommended by Lexus for your year. I don’t know why.
When my car came out 0W20 GF6 oil was not invented so can I use signature series 0w20? Manual suggests 5W30 and I use signature series 5W30 but want to try 0W20 , will it hurt my engine? I have GDI 2.5 4GRFSE with 200000 miles
Oil weight is simple. The first number is how thick it is when the engine is cold. The second number is how thick it is when the engine is hot. When a engine has 200k miles on it the rings, cylinders, and bearings are worn out and have more space between them. You want thick oil so it can fill in the gap and keep a good coating of lubrication. Stay with 5w30 and if you see the oil pressure is low you could try 5w40 but prepare for a engine rebuild soon.
You can use signature series but stick with 5w-30. GDI have problems with fuel dilution and that’s why they require 5w-30
I have 2024 cx5 naturally aspirated. It also has GDI. It calls for 0w-20.
@@toddsmith1617 Change the oil at 5k with full synthetics, fuel dilution is a problem with GDI
Started using 5W30 in my 2010 Rav4. (full synthetic) No issues yet. May have 1/2 MPG decrease, but it could be a fluke.
Why 5w-30?
I have a friend with a 1991 corolla , 400k on original engine and he always ran 15w-40 diesel motor oil.
Imaginary friend? Sounds about right
I have a Land Cruiser 2012 , 150. In the book that came with it it says you can also use 10W 40 and I do it .
Diesel?
@@repairvehicle Yes.
Hi, I have thought about this and decided to try the following but wanted to ask you as well: This is for my Acura J37 engine. It is recommended to use 5w-20 oil, however the engine starts to consume oil at around 2k miles after an oil change. I am thinking to try a light 5w-30 grade such as Pennzoil Platinum. It is a bit thicker than a thick 5w-20 oil but less heavy than other 5w-30 oils. It feels that 5w-20 oil is shearing and this J37 isn't easy on the oil. What do you think, will that scenario be safe and possibly provide positive results?
What is mileage on the car?
How often oil has been changed?
What brand of oil has been used?
For how long you had this car?
What brand of thicker oil planning to use and why?
@@repairvehicle The car has 125k miles and previous owner changed oil according to the maintenance minder in the car in acura dealership. I have this car for 3 years. I change oil every 3k miles with any 5w-20 full synthetic oil and have already tried pennzoil ultra platinum, acura full synthetic oil, super tech full synthetic and idemitsu full synthetic oil. The car just starts to consume oil at about 2k miles which leads me to believe the oil might be shearing. As a possibly solution I want to try pennzoil platinum 5w-30 oil as it is pretty light compared to other 5w-30 oils. Then if need be I could move to pennzoil ultra platinum as it is a bit thicker... I do have 5 qt of 5w-20 Amsoil OE which I am planning to try as well.
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Which oil lowers oil consumption.
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@@Charkatak I think you’re spot on. I use 5W30 in my brand new RDX. Runs perfectly fine. Standard platinum will give you a the high end of a 20 grade when operating at 100 Celsius and above.
15,000 mile intervals and never had any problems. However I used a 100% PAO Esther based oil which is obviously twice the price of "full synthetic" oils. My view is that using lower quality oils and changing more frequently is a false economy. However dealerships want the service revenue so they won't switch to a PAO Esther oil and stick with lower quality Synthetics.
What brand?
@@repairvehicle I use Penrite product marketed as "Racing 5" but the brand isn't as important as using a Group IV/V oil instead of Group III. There are only 3 companies in the world that have the technology to produce PAO Esters as far as I know so no matter which brand you buy you are likely getting a very similar product.
Wht does it say in the owners manual?
@@markwarnberg9504 Jaguar recommend changes at 15,000 mile intervals.
1GR-FE 5w30 amsoil signature series 20000KM interval
What do you think of in a hot climate like Miami Florida. Using a 50/50 mix of 5w30, and 0w20 to try to achieve a 3W23 ... this is assuming your complete oil change is approx 6 quarts.
Bad idea, 0W-20 vs 5W-30 for hot climates? Why both viscosity rated for hot climates?
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Hello.I use in summer 5w30 api sp for my hybrid Toyota Corolla cross,(summer temperature+40+42),and in autumn use 0w16 for winter.
Is this will protect my engine?
Thank you!
How often do you change your oil? What brand of oil do you use?
@@repairvehicle I will be changing the oil for the first time, the car is new. The mileage is 4000 km. I’m thinking of changing it now to Special Tec AA 5W-30 since the summer season is ahead and it’s very hot here. In winter I’ll fill it with 0w16
change oil every 5-6000 km
will it be okay?
@TheVSTOM777 yes you will be fine with 5-6k kilometers
You didn't mention winter temps, but if it's usually around 0c, then I would think it would be the thing to do. My winters don't go much below 0c, I use the recommended 0W20, for summers which can be 35-45c, I use 0W30.
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How can you tell if you are buying "fake synthetic" oil over fully synthetic ??
The bottles I buy specify it's full synthetic. Can it also be "fake" ??
Everything labeled as full synthetic oil should be labeled as non synthetic
I wonder about Southern states in the US that rarely get below freezing, and that’s only in the morning and late at night
My mom,s 201 Toyota Rav 4 specs out on 0-W-20 engine oil . As we all know it’s a very thin oil . I did read the owners manual that came with the car & it said that 5-W-30 can be used . I stick with the 0-w-20 & use Valvoline full synthetic oil. My advice to all is read the owners manual. . & change it at every 3,000 Milles I don’t go passed it . I’m wanting to try the Valvoline restore / Protect on the next oil change.🎉
How often do you change your oil?
@@repairvehicle every 3,000 to 4,000milles
Once a year or once in two years?
@@repairvehicle I monitor the Milles
@robertwhite9898 how months or years it takes her to drive 3k miles?
0w 20 definitely does not help fuel mileage in my 2.5 L Toyota Camry. It’s a six speed automatic transmission. That is the reason why you get crappy fuel mileage most of the brand new modern cars today have the eight speed transmissions they are junk. I used to have a car with an eight speed transmission. It got very good gas mileage, and that oil was the same as what my Toyota calls for now I will be honest I just did an oil change on my Toyota. I put what was recommended. 0w 20 definitely no change in fuel economy whatsoever will be using 5W-30 next oil change to see if it will quiet down the 2.5 L
I have a Mitsubishi outlander, my recommended oil is 0w20 in the owners manual but the manual also states that I need to use the proper thickness oil for the temperature were I am driving. I live in Texas and the temperature reaches above 100 degree Fahrenheit. How high can I go in the viscosity or 0w20 ok for hot temperatures?
What year is your Mitsubishi?
2016
I would like to use 0w30 or 5w30 not going too thick from the 0w20.
This video has details 0w-20 vs 5w-30 what is better in terms of protecting against wear? Brand of oil matters?
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Hi there. My wife's 2011 v6 rav 4 calls for a 5w30, and i'm thinking about using 0W20 instead. My 2012 highlander v6 has the same engine and according to the manual is should only use Ow20. Would you agree with me if I use OW20 for both vehicles? I live somewhere in Alberta Canada (cold winters and warm summers)
Yes, absolutely
@@repairvehicleso the older one back-spec'd to use thinner oil is okay but not the newer engine with the thicker grade?
@MyerShift7 what are you trying to accomplish? What did I say in the video?
I have a 2007 Honda Odyssey that says on the oil cap 5w-20. I would like to to use 5w-30, but I heard it would damage the variable valve system if I use a higher viscosity than a 20 weight oil. By the way I use Amsoil 0w-20 SS in my car. Could I use or would you recommend 5w-30/0w-30 in this van? Thanks...
Why use thicker oil?
Just heard that the 30 weight oil was better at protecting the engine and that going to a 20 weight was only to get better mpg.
Thicker oil doesn’t protect better. Quality performance oil provides better protection than none performance oils
I am from Ontario, CRV2008 2.4 engine, recommended oil 5W20. Switched to 5W30 in summer and 0W30 for winter around 30K ago, and now I have around 130 K. The engine is working better and quieter.
Friend, I’m moving down to South Carolina this month it doesn’t get below freezing in the winter. I really despise using the zero20 you study a lot more than me well I hurt the VTEC System if I use 5/30 oil full synthetic I change it every 4000 miles, I can’t understand how people get sucked into changing the oil every 10,000 miles or the Fram oil filter every 20,000 miles, 2013 was the last year they built a good car then they realize the cars last too long so they’re trying to make it so we have to buy into it
When I drove over 20,000 miles a year, I did a 15k mile OCI with full synthetics, as I only get 3 months of decent weather. Did that for 10 years with no problems. They were 80s Dodge turbos and they did fine. A GDI is probably not safe for that, fuel oil dillution, and todays cars have low tension piston rings, so I probably don't do that with modern cars. I also no longer drive that many miles per year.
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Is there a reason one shouldnt use pennzoil ultra platinum since it isnt dexos rated ?
If you have direct injection engine then you should not use oil that does not meet Dexos requirements
Sir i live in the philippines which temp is 25-35C. I drive suzuki swift 2nd gen. Which oil should i use? 0w20 or 5w30? I lost my owners manual btw. Thanks!
What year? How often do you change your oil?
@@repairvehicle 2015 sir k12m engine. I change oil every 10k km or once a year. Im using fully synthetic
Either oil can be used, however changed it every 7k km or one year which ever comes first
@@repairvehicle thanks a lot! Much love
You don't even need oil in those temps.
0w20 winter and summer 38f - 103f 2015 civic si, zero oil burning runs like new at 10400k miles
2001 corolla Fielder 1NZ FE 10w30 or 0w20 or 5w30
Can i use thinner oil?
Why you want to use thinner oil?
For better fuel economy
My car is used taxi;Myanmar
What about Mazda. In there book it says 0w20 then right below it says if your in Mexico you can use 5w30? So what it your in Texas ? What changes going 10 miles south?
5w-30 synthetic or conventional for Mexico?
@@repairvehicle it doesn’t specify just sm or ilsac
More is coming to my channel on this subject
@@repairvehicle nice 👍
Any updates
Higher temperatures than in, say, Los Vegas?
Hardly.
case closed.
I use nothing less than a full synthetic 5W-20 in all my vehicles. Period. Nothing less than OW-20 full synthetic in the winter.
I am in southern Ontario Canada.
Max 3,000 Km/ oil change.
Never have an issue.
Very informative video! Thank you ❤
The manual for my 2015 Toyota Rav 4 says to.use 0W-20 but says you can use 5w-20 . Then they state to use 0w-20 on the next oil change. Would you recommend that I stick with the Ow20 ? The vehivle has 105k miles. I Live in the uooer midwest. So summers are hot and humid andnwinters are cold
How often do you change your oil?
@@repairvehicle
5k
How many months it takes you to drive 5k miles?
@@repairvehicle 3-5 minths
@btbd2785 use 0w-20 but use quality oil or change it more often if lower quality oil is used
I live in Arizona should I put thicker oil in my tundra? I just bought the truck
What year?
2016 tundra 5.7
You can use 5w-20 or 5w-30, but thickness of the oil is not what protects against the wear, quality of the oil. It’s same reason why you bought tundra, quality over big horse power numbers
@@repairvehicle ah I see thanks well I did have a ram that was gonna be a ticking time bomb
I live in extreme hot country , and my car is corolla 22 (m20a-fks) engine.
I used 0w20 , but i smell like oil after long trips , the manual calls from 0w16 to 10w30 range , can i switch 5w30 safely .
The milage is 30K miles
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Good sound advice😊
I try to use non resource conserving low SAPS oil (ACEA C3). In my WRX, I want an oil w/a higher HTHS number and resource conserving oils tend to fall out of grade sooner at higher temps....
what is your source of HTHS must be higher?
Is it ok to switch to 0w16 on a 2014 crv? I recently switched to amsoil and got 3mpg back to the factory spec now. Can 0w16 help even more?
I don’t know if it can help. But I would not use it unless owners manual states to use it
Do you live in Alaska with 0C or 32F temps all the time? If not, no.
can i use 5w30 in my 2016 Camry SEand 2016 4runner?Here in Texas its quite hot all year. change every 5k mi.
Why do you want to use 5w-30?
@@repairvehiclewill this oil protect the engine more?Thank you .
@eduardocastillo2355 thickens of the oil doesn’t guarantee protection, it’s quality of the oil that protects engines
In our tropical country the manual recommends at with 40 and 50.
No it doesn’t