TBM 850 - Cost to Own

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  • @seagullsbtn
    @seagullsbtn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    N851tb has its own channel.

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Good eye! Though I would say Steveo has his own channel and N851TB plays a supporting role 😀

    • @BloodyBulwark
      @BloodyBulwark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@CompleteWalkaround I thought it was a cool shoutout to Steveo honestly. Who would have thought that we would have TH-cam Aviation memes but here we are.

    • @TheDanny3247
      @TheDanny3247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha sharp eyes.

  • @someguy5035
    @someguy5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Direct, actionable, not needlessly protracted.
    Awesome video.

  • @boi7867
    @boi7867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I love imagining I can afford and fly these planes you put up in these videos. Keep it up!

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks. Very low cost plane up next. Thanks for watching

  • @JayCrash450
    @JayCrash450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Other than liking aviation a lot, and at one point in my life becoming extremely close to obtaining my pilot certificate. I have no good dang idea why I watched this video. But it was interesting, informative, succinct, and entertaining. Thank you.

  • @rannyacernese6627
    @rannyacernese6627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The last part is the important point. You don’t pay people 6+ figures a year to sit in airports.

  • @Goontrader2
    @Goontrader2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great video - would love to see same video on: PC12, KA 250, Phenom 100 & 300.
    I think it’s hard to justify a new TBM when you can get a Phenom 100 for approximately the same price and monthly opex.

    • @markburton5170
      @markburton5170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is the Cirrus Vision Jet the next step up? Not sure how much more capable it is than the TBM, both have max cruise speed around 300 knots. New TBM 940 about $4.5m. Phenom is cheaper and has higher cruise speed (max ceiling 41k), but shorter range and probably no slower for typical shorter flights.

    • @eMMjunaYschion
      @eMMjunaYschion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@markburton5170 The Vision would be a step down for most users in my opinion. It is a little bit slower than the TBM, has much less space, a lower MTOW (and therefore can't carry as much) and is probably more expensive to run. I'd see it as a supercar of the skies, while the TBM is more of a pickup truck or van, not slower though.

  • @bmoulas
    @bmoulas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I only know 3 people/companies that own TBM's but they all lease it and it seems that is quite common. For those I know, it allows them to own it, they couldn't if they outright bought it in a loan. The operating costs don't seem to be the problem, it's the acquisition.

  • @cellokid5104
    @cellokid5104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really appreciate the concise and clear breakdown. Keep doing what you're doing

  • @mattym8
    @mattym8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Specifically Steveo’s TBM 😀

  • @gmcjetpilot
    @gmcjetpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nicely done. At the higher utilizations that is cost effective. You don't have crew so this is owner operated, which I am qualified... minus winning the lottery ticket I need OR start a successful business needing extensive travel to write this bad boy off, does not look like a TBM850 is in my future.... hey may be a used TBM700 partnership... I guess I will be stuck with my RV-7. Ha ha.

  • @nosalis
    @nosalis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    life can be way more fun when money is not an issue

  • @dominikfriedl8955
    @dominikfriedl8955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny how it is the N851TB of Steveo shown in this video. 🤣

  • @JaredNaude
    @JaredNaude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video. I see you used Steveo's registration number but his last annual was $95 000. You also didn't mention handling or parking fees that FBOs charge.

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks! And thanks for watching.
      There are many costs such as parking, handling, subscriptions, medicals etc that are all independent of the plane you're flying. I consider these the costs of being a pilot more than owning a specific airplane. They are all dependant on where you fly. Many people never pay landing fees nor subscriptions.
      95,000 is obviously an outlier. Steveo mentioned the plane has been having chronic issues lately. Too bad.

    • @flyinbryanfpv
      @flyinbryanfpv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the cost of the pilot... (Steve lol)

    • @TrunkTrunkTrunk666
      @TrunkTrunkTrunk666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did that include the cost of repairing... THE BULLET HOLE?!

    • @markm6853
      @markm6853 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CompleteWalkaround Handling and parking fees scale up with aircraft size and weight. SETPs like a TBM pay a lot more in fees on the ground than a piston aircraft.

  • @skusemepeash2910
    @skusemepeash2910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed your dry sense of humor

  • @timm5527
    @timm5527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i caught steve's tailnumber right away, thought it was great!

  • @rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
    @rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow the insurance is way cheaper in US so is maintenance. In South America usually the insurance is between 67 up to 82 k and the prices start around 2.8 millions that is including taxes.

  • @jaimewhite1925
    @jaimewhite1925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now! Please to a video on the DA42 and DA62 (Bonus if you run the DA50 as well, but hey!) Love the content, keep it up!

  • @HelloMyNamesNino
    @HelloMyNamesNino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just thinking about the people who genuinely thought they were in the market then after watching this video realised their labourer’s wage won’t cut it

  • @nobleroofinggeneralcontrac7961
    @nobleroofinggeneralcontrac7961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was a riot good job thank you very much

  • @ipla27
    @ipla27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, 851TB. That's Stevo's plane.

  • @gabriellord3286
    @gabriellord3286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know an individual who flies a tbm 940. Beautiful aircraft

  • @3rdworlds
    @3rdworlds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have a PC-12 but only fly 2-3 back and forth a month. We budget 225k per year but 75k is the pilot retainer.

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I would love to hear more about owning a PC-12. Please message me on Instagram or Facebook if you would like to chat more. Thanks!

  • @cristiovanni
    @cristiovanni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you have to ask, you can't afford it! After this video, we don't have to ask anymore, we're all one step closer ;)

  • @benjames5423
    @benjames5423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2 Seconds in: "So you want to buy a TBM 850"
    No, but I'll watch anyway

  • @VictoryAviation
    @VictoryAviation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After having done an entire semester’s business class on on-demand aviation, the big time savings compared to the airlines has nothing to do with cruise speed, and everything to do with all the time you cut out by not having to deal with the airliner airport terminals and all the security and BS associated with it. You make your own schedule which also saves time, and park right next to the ramp where the plane is parked. Then you walk right through the FBO and get on your bird. Next you fly to an airport that’s probably a lot closer to where you need to go because you have the option to fly to almost any decent sized airport.
    With the implantation of on-demand, even one person like a CEO or president of a company can literally save WEEKS of time throughout a year. That’s a lot of time they can be working on new accounts, better quality control, and better customer support with strike teams in the case of a meltdown somewhere. All those things greatly increase revenue and employee retention.

    • @grafhilgenhurst9717
      @grafhilgenhurst9717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And you don't have to take your shoes off!😄

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grafhilgenhurst9717 The best part lol

  • @epapa737
    @epapa737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me a broke college kid... Yup totally in the market for a TBM

  • @mwp1088
    @mwp1088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are great! I think I've watched every one over two days now. You should do one on a Cessna Cardinal or Skymaster!

  • @thegamingaviator13
    @thegamingaviator13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! 851TB! The king of all the 850s

  • @cksspb815
    @cksspb815 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance of doing an update using a TBM 960? Thanks for these videos. They are great.

  • @SkydiveLondon
    @SkydiveLondon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love you to do one on the Cessna 208 or Kodiak 🤞

  • @alexandredelignieres4282
    @alexandredelignieres4282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks ! And what about a kodiak 100?
    Thanks

  • @muctop17
    @muctop17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But, you forgot to talk about the repo, we allways see on TV

  • @caprica_13
    @caprica_13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice shoutout with that tail number!

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good eye 😉

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CompleteWalkaround as a Cirrus instructor, I'd love to see a SR20 vs SR22 vs SR22T comparison video. I have lots of clients having trouble deciding which one to get. I can only wish I was rich enough to have that kind of headache lol
      Also as a king air 350 pilot, a king air series would be cool too!

  • @jffilms8656
    @jffilms8656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do Beechcraft King Air B200??

  • @maggiesfarm9132
    @maggiesfarm9132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well that solves that

  • @jeremygoodson502
    @jeremygoodson502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving your videos!! Are you going to do one for the Pilatus PC-12? I’d love to see it. Thank you!! Keep up the great work.

  • @bernardogarcia1740
    @bernardogarcia1740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video. Can you do a video of the Pilatus PC12. Thanks.

  • @Deadendswiss
    @Deadendswiss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love u man just on point facts facts facts no unnecessary blabla

  • @halimkainen
    @halimkainen ปีที่แล้ว

    How and is there new T shirt as souvenir

  • @TheChivasRegal
    @TheChivasRegal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do the Pilatus PC-12!

  • @vernonvancleve4316
    @vernonvancleve4316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m curious.
    Where are you getting these numbers?
    You’re pretty accurate as far as I can tell.

  • @alomaniaaaa
    @alomaniaaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great content! can you do the pilatus pc-12 and the pc-6 porter? thanks!!!

  • @LaHayeSaint
    @LaHayeSaint 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll think I'll walk thank you! You need to be a CEO to afford this beastie!

  • @kelvinlau9019
    @kelvinlau9019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a Fairchild merlin

  • @kyler565
    @kyler565 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you buy an airplane without a loan and pilot it yourself do you still need insurance?

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm the USA technically no. Though many FBOs require you to have it to use their insurance. Good help you if you crash into a Ferrari dealership

  • @skusemepeash2910
    @skusemepeash2910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also I would like to put in a video request for PC-12 and King Air 200 and Beech Bonanza A36

  • @charlesdelone6861
    @charlesdelone6861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to see a piaggio video

  • @kdrangej
    @kdrangej 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the pilot? Shouldn't pilot cost also be included, for a corporation at least?

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where's the fun in that? 🙂
      You're the pilot!

  • @TheChivasRegal
    @TheChivasRegal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the Honda jet!!

  • @amirkazemi2517
    @amirkazemi2517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $400k engine overhaul.....you need to be worth $20M or more to play in this league

  • @davethompson3226
    @davethompson3226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You rock! Can you do a Premier 1A?

  • @mikepotter3251
    @mikepotter3251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the cost for an aero commander?

  • @DanielHelc
    @DanielHelc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome channel! Can you do a Caravan and PC12? King Air 200/250/350 Maybe?

  • @clearedhot7030
    @clearedhot7030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you have to ask, you can't afford it. But good video, short and to the point, well done.

  • @daveok7131
    @daveok7131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a DA62?

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diamond with a are tricky. I'm piecing it together. Stay tuned. Thanks for watching

  • @frankshipp6082
    @frankshipp6082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good content, more please

  • @skusemepeash2910
    @skusemepeash2910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shout to Steveo

  • @florianherrmann4093
    @florianherrmann4093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does you always charge maintenance cost per hour if you charge yearly maintenance cost as well. Does not seem realistic to me. Please verify your Methode

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maintenance is a constant and a variable. Repairs occur outside of annual and the more you fly the more they occur. Even if you leave everything to annual to repair, years where you fly a lot may have larger annuals.
      Think of the annual price as what you pay in maintenance each year and the hourly maintenance price as the amount you pay beyond the annual for flying more.
      It's not a question of 2 seperate bills or anything. Just that owning a plane will have you paying some maintenance in a year and the more you fly the more that is.
      This is why I have annual as a fixed cost and maintenance as a variable cost. Hope that helps

  • @jjr1728
    @jjr1728 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No. If it cant go transatlantic to Europe whats the point?

    • @CompleteWalkaround
      @CompleteWalkaround  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same as every airplane.. the nose

    • @jjr1728
      @jjr1728 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CompleteWalkaround that's anti semitic

    • @rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
      @rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On a plane like that maybe you have enough autonomy but would be necessary to fly to fly to northern Canada make escales in Greenland and Iceland reaching Scotland on the Shetland islands

  • @petertarantelli
    @petertarantelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SteveO1Kinevo!

  • @mrbondohrama
    @mrbondohrama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually I wanted to buy two TBM 850s.

  • @danhaffar
    @danhaffar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if you can take it slow then buy an old cool yacht and live like a king instead for less cash :)

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only person I know who owned one of those for any length of time got nickeled and dimed to death--ended up spending way more than he had been expecting and had to get rid of it. My Cessna was significantly cheaper long-term.

    • @danhaffar
      @danhaffar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReflectedMiles thats sounds very real 😳 but if you can live on the "yacht" and maybe not the biggest of them all 😉 and save the money on the house/expensive apartment depending on where you live, it can be a good cost effective option. It will give you the option of moving your home around. Lets say a 40 foot yacht, will not cost your more than a boring 50 square meter apartment.

  • @johngilbert1325
    @johngilbert1325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    statute mile or nautical mile?

  • @ben3989
    @ben3989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boy that’s a lot of money.

  • @chasecutler3978
    @chasecutler3978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    STEVEO!

  • @tdvallan
    @tdvallan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound so much like Backcountry Pilot. Could it be?

  • @LilJollyJoker
    @LilJollyJoker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lmao man really put N851TB as the image

  • @mackman77095
    @mackman77095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    still cehaper than Uber on the per Mile basis

  • @Snakebloke
    @Snakebloke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $400,000 engine overhaul.
    Good lord, no thanks. I'll stick to piston lol

  • @stealhty1
    @stealhty1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man,,thats $2400 /Week ,,,quite something

  • @Thunderdog73
    @Thunderdog73 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Answer: more than you have.

  • @azamiruddin
    @azamiruddin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still cheaper than Bugatti Chiron.

  • @theplanegod
    @theplanegod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TBM 850 in one word, eww. I would buy a 930 instead

  • @usernameisusername
    @usernameisusername 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I film all my only fans videos on mine. All tax write offs

  • @f900ex5
    @f900ex5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy yourself a PC12 and thank me later

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was inclined to do that at one point, mostly for its simple hauling capacity, and I agree it is the better choice so long as that is a common need/application. However, I would need that capacity for so few flights in my application that I could never justify it, sort of like a 15-passenger-size van for a much smaller family, and the TBM is then significantly more efficient (esp. faster per $ spent).