Bought my 172B for 20K Canadian (15KUSD) in 2021... 250hr engine. Spending about 30K CDN over 6 months to upgrade to a full glass panel avionics, all new wiring, switches, paint, lights etc. So if you look around, and can do some / most of the grunt work yourself (of course under AME supervision): there are still deals out there.
Well hell... I actually learned a lot in this video about what changed when. Another fun fact: The C172 still holds the world record for the longest endurance flight ever conducted, which started in 1958 and ended in 1959. The flight lasted over two months without ever touching the ground!!! It's an amazing feat of engineering and pilot willpower. The actual plane that beat the record is hanging in the Las Vegas Mccarran Airport over the baggage claim.
Fit a 172 with flap seals it is incredibly hard to stall. I went up with my flight instructor when I was learning to fly and on that session we were to do power off stalls, among other things. At his direction I gave it carb heat, reduced power to idle, and pulled back on the yoke as far as it would go. It just started gently settling down with the nose elevated. Finally he let me in on how the flap seals were working and showed me the way to trick the 172 into doing a power off stall. Get the nose all the way up by pulling the yoke all the way back, slowly move the yoke forward a little, then very quickly pull the yoke all back again very quickly. Remember, if it can't stall, it can't spin. It's really a great airplane.
I took my first flight in a “R.” Later I trained in a “N”, and today I rent a “D.” Funny how I went from newest to oldest. The latter still beats out other newer 172s due to its constant speed prop, which the owner opted for.
Didn't read all 135 comments... but you left out the 172XP, had 195hp 6 cyl continental with a constant speed prop. Built mostly for seaplane operators. Didn't do well with wheeled customers as it was slower than the Archer with a bigger fuel burn.
The Cessna,s 150 and 152 are Splendid aircraft, great to fly and very forgiving, and buying either aircraft you will Never lose money, a great investment. An excellent aircraft of which to learn to fly.
You forgot another nice model, the Reims Rocket, licence built in Reims, France late sixties early seventies, 210 hp, constat speed prop, an auxiliary fuel tank behind the baggage compartment an a huge payload. I'm forgetting the details because I haven't flown one in about 30 years but I think it had a max endurance of more than 8 hours at 55%. Some were used for para dropping. Some got converted to 3 blade props due to noise issues but most are grounded by now.
Excited to view this excellent video for the first time as I’m a new 172 owner. Even more excited to see my airplane featured as the 1965 F model, N5455R. And I’m fact you correctly identify the addition of electric flaps and that’s the only thing I would like to change about my airplane :). Thanks for a great video.
I really love your videos. Quick and to the point, and very informative. Can you do a breakdown (perhaps in a blog or something) of how you calculate cost per mile/hour?
Thanks. The cost per mile is the cost per hour divided by distance traveled in one hour which is just the cruise speed. The cost per hour is the total fixed cost divided by the number of hours flown in a year plus the total variable cost.
if you allow me a small nitpick, when you show the most built planes in the world after the 172, Il-2 and Me-109, that isn't a picture of a Me-109 but of a Hispano Aviacion Ha-1112 Buchon, a license-built 109 with a british Merlin engine, the front end is completely redesigned. Most were used as movie planes, hence the german paintscheme on all of them, even though they entered service with the spanish in the 50's. Great video though :)
I'm gonna try to get a pre-owned one when the time comes. I started playing flight simulator again today after some time and I started off the day in VR taking off and doing some pattern work at KLOT.
I love my k model! I’ve had her for 31 years now and for me, there’s no better airplane! 🖖🏻. FYI….the original owner bought it April 1969 and paid $10,000 for it! I payed $15k for it in 1990.
Great video! I'm an aspiring pilot myself so I was looking up cessna 172 videos because I heard flight schools use them and stumbled upon this! Great video! I had only heard about the basic 172 skyhawk at this point, didn't know there were so many models.
In Denver if you want to actually buy a 4 place that will carry 4 and fuel and luggage and have the range to go anywhere…..you need to buy something with at least 200hp
Hi bud, thank you for creating these videos!!! I have always dreamt of owning/flying a small aircraft. Now that I a m in a position to buy, I have found your videos not only informative but INSPIRING! Just liked and subscribed... Cheers!
I trained in a Piper Tomahawk :) But you really can't avoid 172s, they're everywhere. The weirdest one I've flown was the Sierra model with the Thielert 1.0 diesel engine.
Love all of your videos! I'm casting my vote for a video like this on the M20s :) Would you ever do any consulting for someone like me looking to buy their first plane?
@@CompleteWalkaroundI've watched all your videos, this one was very well put together. It would be awesome to see this level of detail put into a Mooney, Arrow, Commanche, tiger, and a few others of the affordable family planes. But maybe it was just smooth background music. Cheers and thanks for making these videos!
Love your videos man! This might be a big ask, but is there any way you could release a new version of this video with the shorter format you've been nailing every time? It would feel more on brand, but only if it makes sense for you to do so. Keep it up, you're killing it!
Ah the good ol’ 172. Great plane. You can kill your self in one but you have to try quite hard. Flown many over the years. On a visit to Canada got given a ride in one on floats piloted by a septuagenarian. Scary! Great channel by the way. Everything you need to know and nothing you don’t, delivered with style.
@@CompleteWalkaround That's why Experimental are taking over. The last data I saw was from 2011 I believe. That year, just over 2000 aircraft of every make and model in GA were produced in factories and sold in the US. That includes every type of airlines, business jet, Boeing, Airbus, Bombardier, Cessna, Piper, Beechcraft, etc. Literally everything. Barely over 2000 new aircraft in total manufactured that year. That same year, over 10,000 new homebuilt aircraft received their airworthiness certificates. And the ratio of experimental to factory is only going to get worse. The FAA has priced factory aircraft out of the market, and put them into a death spiral. You seem good with the data, maybe I am wrong, and you can square me away if that's the case. But the fact is Experimental deliver greater speeds (high and low), payload, range, capability, ownership costs, and purchase price than a comparable factory aircraft. I believe you mentioned building an RV14, so I assume you already know all of this as well.
Nice video. Never would have believed the 172s would reach $150k and higher. Bought mine for $57k in 1998.
Bought my 172B for 20K Canadian (15KUSD) in 2021... 250hr engine. Spending about 30K CDN over 6 months to upgrade to a full glass panel avionics, all new wiring, switches, paint, lights etc. So if you look around, and can do some / most of the grunt work yourself (of course under AME supervision): there are still deals out there.
@@GlensHangar That’s a really good deal, like insanely good 😂
Well 57k in 1998 is worth 98k in 2022 dollars
My dad owned several different of these (not at the same time) back in the 70's, I can't believe I can't even afford an own home now
@@dieglhix same these boomers ruined it for the kids. My parents had such an easy great life and I am in studen tloan debt in a cubicle renting.
Well hell... I actually learned a lot in this video about what changed when.
Another fun fact: The C172 still holds the world record for the longest endurance flight ever conducted, which started in 1958 and ended in 1959. The flight lasted over two months without ever touching the ground!!! It's an amazing feat of engineering and pilot willpower. The actual plane that beat the record is hanging in the Las Vegas Mccarran Airport over the baggage claim.
Fit a 172 with flap seals it is incredibly hard to stall. I went up with my flight instructor when I was learning to fly and on that session we were to do power off stalls, among other things. At his direction I gave it carb heat, reduced power to idle, and pulled back on the yoke as far as it would go. It just started gently settling down with the nose elevated. Finally he let me in on how the flap seals were working and showed me the way to trick the 172 into doing a power off stall. Get the nose all the way up by pulling the yoke all the way back, slowly move the yoke forward a little, then very quickly pull the yoke all back again very quickly.
Remember, if it can't stall, it can't spin. It's really a great airplane.
I took my first flight in a “R.” Later I trained in a “N”, and today I rent a “D.” Funny how I went from newest to oldest. The latter still beats out other newer 172s due to its constant speed prop, which the owner opted for.
Finally, a breakdown of all the 172 models! I just learned a lot in 7 mins, thank you
Currently learning on a 172 and now I’m looking to buy one. Going to have to wait for the market to crash to pick one up
LOL
Finished my PPL in a G model. It's a great trainer and a confidence builder.
Didn't read all 135 comments... but you left out the 172XP, had 195hp 6 cyl continental with a constant speed prop. Built mostly for seaplane operators. Didn't do well with wheeled customers as it was slower than the Archer with a bigger fuel burn.
The Cessna,s 150 and 152 are Splendid aircraft, great to fly and very forgiving, and buying either aircraft you will Never lose money, a great investment.
An excellent aircraft of which to learn to fly.
You forgot another nice model, the Reims Rocket, licence built in Reims, France late sixties early seventies, 210 hp, constat speed prop, an auxiliary fuel tank behind the baggage compartment an a huge payload. I'm forgetting the details because I haven't flown one in about 30 years but I think it had a max endurance of more than 8 hours at 55%. Some were used for para dropping. Some got converted to 3 blade props due to noise issues but most are grounded by now.
i know someone that ownes one with a mt 3 blade prop
Just had my first training today in a 172. And like you sad. It was a lot of fun! 😄
Always love the 172! got my PPL, CPL, IR in the P and S model both analog and G1000~!
Excited to view this excellent video for the first time as I’m a new 172 owner. Even more excited to see my airplane featured as the 1965 F model, N5455R. And I’m fact you correctly identify the addition of electric flaps and that’s the only thing I would like to change about my airplane :). Thanks for a great video.
I really love your videos. Quick and to the point, and very informative.
Can you do a breakdown (perhaps in a blog or something) of how you calculate cost per mile/hour?
Thanks. The cost per mile is the cost per hour divided by distance traveled in one hour which is just the cruise speed. The cost per hour is the total fixed cost divided by the number of hours flown in a year plus the total variable cost.
Would love to see a detailed video like this about all the Mooney M20’s!
Can you make a video about a motorized glider?
I am very interested in the Mooney differences in the E and F models plus the Super 21. Would love to see that video.
Very cool. The "S" with G1000 really takes away from useful load as well. All those batteries take up some of the useful load. Great airplane though.
if you allow me a small nitpick, when you show the most built planes in the world after the 172, Il-2 and Me-109, that isn't a picture of a Me-109 but of a Hispano Aviacion Ha-1112 Buchon, a license-built 109 with a british Merlin engine, the front end is completely redesigned. Most were used as movie planes, hence the german paintscheme on all of them, even though they entered service with the spanish in the 50's. Great video though :)
Ha, There you go. 🙂
stellar work.. never seen the variant's side by side before... thank you
I'm gonna try to get a pre-owned one when the time comes. I started playing flight simulator again today after some time and I started off the day in VR taking off and doing some pattern work at KLOT.
I love my k model! I’ve had her for 31 years now and for me, there’s no better airplane! 🖖🏻. FYI….the original owner bought it April 1969 and paid $10,000 for it! I payed $15k for it in 1990.
nice my great grandfather bought 200 acres outside a major city 100 years ago and paid 10k now its worth 3 million.
I love your straight to the point videos!
I enjoy flying this plane virtually in X-Plane 11 in VR. Hoping to get my PPL in the near future.
Great video! I'm an aspiring pilot myself so I was looking up cessna 172 videos because I heard flight schools use them and stumbled upon this! Great video! I had only heard about the basic 172 skyhawk at this point, didn't know there were so many models.
Welcome 🛩️
In Denver if you want to actually buy a 4 place that will carry 4 and fuel and luggage and have the range to go anywhere…..you need to buy something with at least 200hp
excellent video. Pace was perfect and so are the graphics.
Thanks man
Great video, concise, clear , detailed and short.
The 172 foreman is great and I'd like to know thee XP model specs. Thanks.
Hi bud, thank you for creating these videos!!! I have always dreamt of owning/flying a small aircraft. Now that I a m in a position to buy, I have found your videos not only informative but INSPIRING! Just liked and subscribed... Cheers!
Great history lesson.
Can you do a remake of this. I am looking at buying a plane to finish training but the info is so hard to come by it seems, at least reliable info
I bought a Redbird Jay last year and thoroughly enjoy the 172, steam gauge version. Too many issues at the FBO near me.
With the market crashing I've been looking into getting a plane. Hilarious you mentioned the comparison
Wise
Thank you for making these easy to understand videos, will you do one for the DA50 RG or DA62?
Could someone explain why models with 6 cylinders conti cheaper in operation then 4 cylinders Lycoming?
Where did the S&P vs price chart come from? I can afford a plane (just) but I can’t afford a huge loss in 3 years when it’s time to sell.
Would love to see a Lancair or Glasair review. Thanks.
Beauty. Now do every GA plane there is please
I trained in a Piper Tomahawk :) But you really can't avoid 172s, they're everywhere. The weirdest one I've flown was the Sierra model with the Thielert 1.0 diesel engine.
For some reason, most flight clubs around here have the Papa model. And the rental that mostly has 150s also has two 172Ns.
Your channel is great!
Thank you very much!
Love all of your videos! I'm casting my vote for a video like this on the M20s :) Would you ever do any consulting for someone like me looking to buy their first plane?
Haven't considered it before.
Thanks for sharing the video , my favorite is S model with G1000 👌
Thank you for so informative video , interesting so many types of 172 I enjoy flying it as well as the sporty as I call it 152
Good video. Never new Rockcliffe's airplanes can look this nice in pictures 😄
This was amazing. Thank you!
Cessna 172 S also have FADEC with Garmin 1000nxi
this channel is going to explode.
This was the first video I watched, glad to see you are still going on. Thanks!
Do a pa 28 140
I trained in C-GBPT over 20 years ago!!! Where did you shoot the video at 6:14?
That was quite the double take for me
Where are you based out of?
I'm in Ottawa. Not sure where that photo came from. Been a few years now
Excellent page, would you consider making a video for the Mooney M20 all the way from A to nowadays?
Thanks! I am thinking about that. Cost to own M20J video coming very soon
@@CompleteWalkaround 👊
@@CompleteWalkaroundI've watched all your videos, this one was very well put together. It would be awesome to see this level of detail put into a Mooney, Arrow, Commanche, tiger, and a few others of the affordable family planes. But maybe it was just smooth background music. Cheers and thanks for making these videos!
I would love to see you do a cost to own for a little home built plane like a Sonex.
how about a review of Cub models?
Love your videos man! This might be a big ask, but is there any way you could release a new version of this video with the shorter format you've been nailing every time? It would feel more on brand, but only if it makes sense for you to do so. Keep it up, you're killing it!
Hi, interesting stuff, thanks! Maybe add a Cessna 177 and a DA 40.
I miss this detailed kidn of review and would love if you could do this type of detailed review more often ❤️
Nice, Thx for the review! How about a Zlin 142 (or its family) review?
Here I am still thinking about buying a brand new one...
Could you do one of these review videos for the Cessna Cardinal series?
Great video. Short and to the point. Supercub, when you get a minute?
Missed one, the R172E, aka T-41 Mescalero. 210hp IO-360 😎
I think the E was in there 😉
Great job!
Excellent reviews , very informative.
Could you please consider evaluating the Pipistrel Virus?
Thanks! I will add the virus to the list
At 5:50 you've got number 2 and number 3 backwards.
Great video! Thanks!
Fantastic video!
Fabulous video. Where did you get the used price graph data from 1:56?
Watching the market for 25 years 🤓
@@CompleteWalkaround Nice. I'll send you $25 (Canadian) for a heads up 😉🤣
Aaannnnd there goes my dream of becoming a pilot! Yahoo!
Please create a video like this do the Bd4c
Ah the good ol’ 172. Great plane. You can kill your self in one but you have to try quite hard. Flown many over the years. On a visit to Canada got given a ride in one on floats piloted by a septuagenarian. Scary!
Great channel by the way. Everything you need to know and nothing you don’t, delivered with style.
Thanks 🙂
The I model C-GEGG is mine!
Zero mention of the XP 172...? This is the last plane I flew back when I had $ to fly... N736LD to be specific.
Do one for the 182.
I just passed my first 100hrs and I have yet to fly a Cessna of any kind. Should probably remedy that, just to tick the box. 🤔
The 109 you're showing are the one with spitfire engine on it lol
I really loved your video awsem work
Thanks , i like your video , is use full .
How is #2 less than #3?
Are these dollar amounts in CA or US?
USD
I have flown GKSK! Edit: And GYWN!
Excellent video, information and presentation. Keep it up! Also, don't hesitate to include sources in your video description.
Thank you !
Could you do the super cub?
Yup
@@CompleteWalkaround looking forward to it! Love the content!
Thanks!
Hey, thanks man!
The hawk XP is missing
Thenks
I know that Cutlass!
I spent a few hundred hours in the military version T-41 in the San Antonio area. $12.50/hr wet back in the day.
The 172 is the Toyota Camry of airplanes. Take care of it and it'll very much take care of you.
Awesome
Never seen so many YRO planes in one video lol. Are you based out of there?
Was.
I've never gotten a 172 to cruise faster than 95 kts, but I'm sure it's possible :)
the trick is to point down
Very Cool.
I remember when you could buy one new out of the box for 37K…..
New 172’s go for $500,000!
I have a 1962 C model with the 0300 continental..that I entirely refurbish...not a better or safer plane!
Dylan Vista
Great work...
But surprisingly there's a bit of a snag . Number two Il-2 was less built than number three Me-109?! 36,183 vs 36,853...
O'Reilly River
Barton Springs
I used to see C172 going for 25k not too many years ago, and C150s for 15k
It's too bad for those just starting out. Shame really
@@CompleteWalkaround That's why Experimental are taking over.
The last data I saw was from 2011 I believe. That year, just over 2000 aircraft of every make and model in GA were produced in factories and sold in the US. That includes every type of airlines, business jet, Boeing, Airbus, Bombardier, Cessna, Piper, Beechcraft, etc. Literally everything. Barely over 2000 new aircraft in total manufactured that year.
That same year, over 10,000 new homebuilt aircraft received their airworthiness certificates. And the ratio of experimental to factory is only going to get worse. The FAA has priced factory aircraft out of the market, and put them into a death spiral.
You seem good with the data, maybe I am wrong, and you can square me away if that's the case. But the fact is Experimental deliver greater speeds (high and low), payload, range, capability, ownership costs, and purchase price than a comparable factory aircraft. I believe you mentioned building an RV14, so I assume you already know all of this as well.