Saw the twin variant up close at EAA this year. It looked like it was decked out for comfort. Spacious, soft leather seats, and air conditioning! According to the owner, it apparently still had an impressive useful load. Traveling in that kind of speed and comfort, not to mention range, you'd never need to pay for an airline ticket again!
@@groggysword33 I'm confused as to what you mean here. Not only does the standard V-Twin still exist, but this year they just completed a larger 6-seater model.
@@groggysword33 you get proven wrong, and then instead of owning up to it you edit your original comment presumably to get rid of the evidence. Nice dude. You can just say it if you got this year's incidents mixed up with another one or something like that, otherwise don't just be spreading misinformation out here please. If I'm mistaken, I'll be glad to be proven wrong provided you can credibly back up your facts!
So glad you did the Velocity! My favorite plane. I hope to build one soon. I'm looking forward to your Velocity twin video when you get to it. Keep up the good work
canard guy with a varieze and defiant, guilty as charged. there is a definite community and we definitely wave at each other on the ramp thanks for the breakdown, your videos are always super interesting and useful!
Im visiting the factory on Friday for a test flight before putting my deposit down in as SE RG. The new SE have the same big door as the XL. Older Velocities, you did have to slide over the wimg, but no longer. Fantastic review, not that im biased!
@@FasterLower I would be interested to hear how the ordering process goes. If you have a few minutes to spare shoot me an email at info@completewalkaround.com. Cheers
I don't mean to be "that guy" but every time I hear about the Velocity people rave about them. There certainly isn't a lot of content for them, though, which I find disappointing.
An instructor at my school died in a velocity V-twin crash... He and his copilot were both F-16 pilots... Just can't look at this plane the same way again...
Absolutely. I ride a Honda Magna VF 750 and i wave at everyone i pass. Motorcyclists are a very tight knit community. We help each other out mechanically, and medically in cases of crashes and we also do our best to teach each other often free of charge. I love the community and even after i get into flying i can promise you i'll still ride.
I was told the "Standard" is the one that you have to jump up onto the wing to get in and the SE is the one with a door. Also the original STD has less wing area and is the most efficient in terms of Miles per gallon and sporty flight. 60K stall speed.
I would absolutely love to have the twin. it's amazing. unfortunately I do not have near the money for that kind of hobby. I admire that plane from the ground.
Love this video! While not as cool as a Velocity, might I suggest that a video on the North American Navion would be cool for a video? I hear it is accommodating for those of us of the taller variety.
Velocity is probably the most cost efficient 4 seater there is but one of the bigger limitations (for me at least) is the higher take off and landing speeds required due to the lack of flaps.
The Velocity XL-RG with a Continental TSIO-550 engine is a 240ktas cruiser. Needs 1500 feet to land. The Cirrus SR22T with the same engine is a 180ktas cruiser, needs 2,000 feet to land. Flaps are not a factor.
I am a fan of the velocity line of aircraft’s. Lots of good things going. But, when I wanted to buy one, the insurance premiums were not feasible. My broker tried several insurance companies but all were eye watering expensive. At the same time, none of the underwriters could give me a sensible reason. Have anyone here had better luck and if so who gave you a reasonable rate?
Awesome video, but I’m confused about the rudder pedals not being connected to each other thing. Can you explain? Anything like the split rudder on the Dark Aero 1?
Right pedal moves the right rudder to the right when you press it. Left pedal moves the left to the left. Push them both and they both move out. They work independently
Yes its like with the darkaero just that 1side of rhe rudder is on the end of one wing and the other half is on the other side but they function the same
@@CompleteWalkaround So no way to get both to move in the same direction? And when you push both they become a speed brake? Is this 100% universal on canards?
i just really like those medium sized twins, like the baron 58, the seneca, the aerostar, and the skyknight. I'd love to buy one someday for my family and have some type of comparison for them, and your videos are incredible!@@CompleteWalkaround
It just seems the like the published performance specs are totally unrealistic. Were you able to confirm the real world performance of any model/engine combos? Love the channel.
Yeah... I'd take building my own, with builder assist, at X26 (Sebastian, FL), over buying God knows the build quality off of some guy with a partially finished kit. Join VOBA if you want to dip your toes into the canard club. Great info. Well worth my $40 for the year - even though I am A LONG way away from buying/building one.
I thought he was going to mention it, but I heard canards are harder to stall since the canard stalls before the wings (so the nose points downward before the whole aircraft stalls), is that true?
If the canard stalls at 20 ft you won’t be happy. Any other time it’s a non-issue. I flew a Velocity years ago on a demo ride. Stick full back, nose bobbing up and down, and still climbing at 800fpm.
Wait... So you like the long Ez and the velocity... But not the piaggio p180....? I'm guessing you don't like what was supposed to be the beechcraft starship?
@@CompleteWalkaroundTrue. It’s technically a forward wing. But it offers the same benefit as it is engineered to fly at a higher angle of attack than the main wing and will stall first at low speeds/high angles of attack.
I kinda like canards but theres always the problem with FOD from the nose wheel damaging the prop, which makes it impossible to operate out of soft fields. Also because a tractor canard would look dumb
Cool looking plane but I don’t think it’s very good for the UK 🇬🇧 we tend to have shorter,less well maintained strips and most are grass. (Imagine the prop damage 😳) would be a cool cruiser though if you could base it somewhere sensible ( i.e. expensive) still we can dream. 👋😀🇬🇧
It would look better is the vertical stabilizer is in the middle like the vtwin… only downside. And 250 knots is almost as fast as some turbo prop. Wonder how fast it would go with a pt6
@@CompleteWalkaround I thought they were developing a turbine vtwin? Didn’t saw much update recently but it must be a beast. It’s wing and airframe’s buffeting speed will probably be the limit..
@@shiroyukiwang1252 They have actually done just that using a pair of PBS TP100 engines. Those are about 241hp and they project it'll easily break 300 knots. There was also a builder who used just one of those on the XL kit though I can't remember what speed he got. Velocity's Instagram actually has a compilation video of the sounds of all the different engine options, one of which is the turboprop single.
@CoreyJones314 I've looked at the deltahawk. Problem is that it's a heavy beast. A sweet engine would be the ULPower UL520T. 220hp turbo normalised engine which is about 80lbs lighter than the normal 200hp Lycoming.
@@FasterLower The VTwin six seater that crashed had the UL520T and so far from the reports the UL520T is what went wrong on take off that led to the crash.
@@kvnkaveman it is worth reading through accident report. data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/102636/pdf Basically an engine instrument issue (low oil pressure) so shut engine down. Then they lost a main gear door which went through the prop on the good engine. They were over the gear limit speed at the time AND they flew the prior leg, a few hours, above the gear limit speed as well. They had a gear problem and got FAA dispensation to fly with 2 crew and a restriction to stay below gear limit speed. They busted their speeds and the side slip from the shut down (but serviceable) engine caused the abused gear door to fail. Poor airmanship IMHO. RIP.
Saw the twin variant up close at EAA this year. It looked like it was decked out for comfort. Spacious, soft leather seats, and air conditioning! According to the owner, it apparently still had an impressive useful load. Traveling in that kind of speed and comfort, not to mention range, you'd never need to pay for an airline ticket again!
@@groggysword33 😢
@@groggysword33 I'm confused as to what you mean here. Not only does the standard V-Twin still exist, but this year they just completed a larger 6-seater model.
@@groggysword33 What? I haven't heard that. Can't find any references to it either. Do you have a source?
@@groggysword33 well you didn't, but great job being a jerk
@@groggysword33 you get proven wrong, and then instead of owning up to it you edit your original comment presumably to get rid of the evidence. Nice dude. You can just say it if you got this year's incidents mixed up with another one or something like that, otherwise don't just be spreading misinformation out here please.
If I'm mistaken, I'll be glad to be proven wrong provided you can credibly back up your facts!
So glad you did the Velocity! My favorite plane. I hope to build one soon. I'm looking forward to your Velocity twin video when you get to it. Keep up the good work
was literally just starting to look at the velocity xl and then my favorite youtuber posted a video about it. my day cannot get any better
Favorite TH-camr? That's two days made!
I stumbled across their factory and met the employees there. Super nice people, and great family-like company.
canard guy with a varieze and defiant, guilty as charged. there is a definite community and we definitely wave at each other on the ramp
thanks for the breakdown, your videos are always super interesting and useful!
Im visiting the factory on Friday for a test flight before putting my deposit down in as SE RG. The new SE have the same big door as the XL. Older Velocities, you did have to slide over the wimg, but no longer. Fantastic review, not that im biased!
Congrats, Good luck
What is your estimated budget all in?
I'm reckoning on 250k. This is with quick build for wings and fuselage and a full Garmin IFR cockpit.
@@FasterLower I would be interested to hear how the ordering process goes. If you have a few minutes to spare shoot me an email at info@completewalkaround.com. Cheers
You're living my dream I've had since I was in high school! Enjoy the moment, one day it'll be my turn!
Bonus points for understanding motorcycle riders.
35 years in the saddle for me.
@@CompleteWalkaround only 15 for me.
FINALLYYY thank you! Velocity aircraft are chronically underrated.
I don't mean to be "that guy" but every time I hear about the Velocity people rave about them. There certainly isn't a lot of content for them, though, which I find disappointing.
A plane like this makes the world a lot smaller, thanks for finaly putting out a video on Velocity
Such a cool looking aircraft
An instructor at my school died in a velocity V-twin crash... He and his copilot were both F-16 pilots... Just can't look at this plane the same way again...
Absolutely. I ride a Honda Magna VF 750 and i wave at everyone i pass. Motorcyclists are a very tight knit community. We help each other out mechanically, and medically in cases of crashes and we also do our best to teach each other often free of charge.
I love the community and even after i get into flying i can promise you i'll still ride.
I paused the video and looked up the twin velocity, daaaamn
💯
So glad you made this, literally my dream plane
Finally, my request has been answered! Awesome video as per usual, keep up the good work.
love your videos man. Would love to see you do a video on the lear jet 23/24/25 or maybe a mig-21UM
Thank you so much for this. I have been looking for these numbers.
I was told the "Standard" is the one that you have to jump up onto the wing to get in and the SE is the one with a door. Also the original STD has less wing area and is the most efficient in terms of Miles per gallon and sporty flight. 60K stall speed.
Excited to hear about your cross-country planning!
Going to be a big summer hopefully!
I would absolutely love to have the twin. it's amazing. unfortunately I do not have near the money for that kind of hobby. I admire that plane from the ground.
Nice dynon sponsorship. I love their screens
Love this video! While not as cool as a Velocity, might I suggest that a video on the North American Navion would be cool for a video? I hear it is accommodating for those of us of the taller variety.
Velocity is probably the most cost efficient 4 seater there is but one of the bigger limitations (for me at least) is the higher take off and landing speeds required due to the lack of flaps.
The Velocity XL-RG with a Continental TSIO-550 engine is a 240ktas cruiser. Needs 1500 feet to land. The Cirrus SR22T with the same engine is a 180ktas cruiser, needs 2,000 feet to land. Flaps are not a factor.
@@speedomars SR22T landing distance is not 2,000 feet.
Thanks for making this one!
0:38 Why is the Retract SE slower than the fixed gear SE?
Are you watching in a mirror?
@@CompleteWalkaround….hmmmmm. I must not have had my coffee yet… lol
I am a fan of the velocity line of aircraft’s. Lots of good things going. But, when I wanted to buy one, the insurance premiums were not feasible. My broker tried several insurance companies but all were eye watering expensive. At the same time, none of the underwriters could give me a sensible reason. Have anyone here had better luck and if so who gave you a reasonable rate?
What quotes did you get?
The issue is retractable gear. You need 100 hours with an instructor to qualify.
I thought that they added normal doors to the SE at some point.
Excellent!
Always wanted one of these.
Please do a video on the Transavia PL-12 Airtruk!
I do believe that the XL has a pressurized cabin, not sure about the SE.
Can I invite you out to Rough River Kentucky next year? Us canardians have our annual fly-in there every September.
You sure can. Thanks!. September is a long way off. We'll see how it works out.
Velocities are cool. Thanks!
Cost to own Zenith CH601/650 please?
Can you cover the Aero Commander 500?
can you do the RV-7 please or the DBS duntless
Did the RV7
@@CompleteWalkaround can you do the DBS duntless dive bomber from ww2 it is my favorite plane
Amazing. ❤❤❤❤
this is my "win the powerball" plane. And I'd probably do something crazy like put a PT-6A in it.
It’s beautiful
Awesome video, but I’m confused about the rudder pedals not being connected to each other thing. Can you explain? Anything like the split rudder on the Dark Aero 1?
Right pedal moves the right rudder to the right when you press it. Left pedal moves the left to the left. Push them both and they both move out. They work independently
Yes its like with the darkaero just that 1side of rhe rudder is on the end of one wing and the other half is on the other side but they function the same
@@CompleteWalkaround So no way to get both to move in the same direction? And when you push both they become a speed brake? Is this 100% universal on canards?
The velocities have/can have a linked rudder just as a conventional aircraft
Love the plane, I wish my wallet agreed
Would it be possible for you to do the Cessna 320?
Oh wow, Skynight. Don't hear much about that. Why 320 specifically? I have a 310 video
i just really like those medium sized twins, like the baron 58, the seneca, the aerostar, and the skyknight. I'd love to buy one someday for my family and have some type of comparison for them, and your videos are incredible!@@CompleteWalkaround
Any chance RV-12 next? :)
It just seems the like the published performance specs are totally unrealistic. Were you able to confirm the real world performance of any model/engine combos? Love the channel.
I always do. Thanks
The twin is a 190ktas cruiser, the XL-RG is a 240ktas cruiser.
You should do a rv12 cost to own next
I love the canards but they usually need so much more runway.
Not true.
2023 insurance costs are over 10k on the RGs with a hull value of only 99k, PP+INST w/600 hours complex time
Yeah... I'd take building my own, with builder assist, at X26 (Sebastian, FL), over buying God knows the build quality off of some guy with a partially finished kit.
Join VOBA if you want to dip your toes into the canard club. Great info. Well worth my $40 for the year - even though I am A LONG way away from buying/building one.
I am building a Velocity now. I hope I live long enough to get to fly it.
I thought he was going to mention it, but I heard canards are harder to stall since the canard stalls before the wings (so the nose points downward before the whole aircraft stalls), is that true?
It sure is
If the canard stalls at 20 ft you won’t be happy. Any other time it’s a non-issue. I flew a Velocity years ago on a demo ride. Stick full back, nose bobbing up and down, and still climbing at 800fpm.
"Way more sandy!" LOL
Wait... So you like the long Ez and the velocity... But not the piaggio p180....? I'm guessing you don't like what was supposed to be the beechcraft starship?
P180 isn't a canard 🤓
@@CompleteWalkaroundTrue. It’s technically a forward wing. But it offers the same benefit as it is engineered to fly at a higher angle of attack than the main wing and will stall first at low speeds/high angles of attack.
Finally!
I kinda like canards but theres always the problem with FOD from the nose wheel damaging the prop, which makes it impossible to operate out of soft fields. Also because a tractor canard would look dumb
It's the biggest issue really. The FOD issue is bad toi
Tractor canard would be super interesting!
So Piaggio P.180 Avanti next? :D
Cool looking plane but I don’t think it’s very good for the UK 🇬🇧 we tend to have shorter,less well maintained strips and most are grass. (Imagine the prop damage 😳) would be a cool cruiser though if you could base it somewhere sensible ( i.e. expensive) still we can dream. 👋😀🇬🇧
P.S. any chance you could do an Ag plane of some description? My dad used to run ag-cats. 😁
Quick puddle-jump to the Mediterranean? 😉😂
Time for DeHavilland Beaver!!
It would look better is the vertical stabilizer is in the middle like the vtwin… only downside. And 250 knots is almost as fast as some turbo prop. Wonder how fast it would go with a pt6
Or 2 PT6s?
@@CompleteWalkaround I thought they were developing a turbine vtwin? Didn’t saw much update recently but it must be a beast. It’s wing and airframe’s buffeting speed will probably be the limit..
Like a Beach Starship? 😅
@@shiroyukiwang1252 They have actually done just that using a pair of PBS TP100 engines. Those are about 241hp and they project it'll easily break 300 knots. There was also a builder who used just one of those on the XL kit though I can't remember what speed he got.
Velocity's Instagram actually has a compilation video of the sounds of all the different engine options, one of which is the turboprop single.
@@MidnightWyvern I do remember the XL with a turboprop engine, it seems to be a lot of work. Now imagine strapping two TJ100 on it.
:D thanks for doing my dream plane! Imageine what it can do with a 916is or that new 200hp turboprop!
With a 916is it probably wouldn't get off the ground without a 2 mile long runway. It would climb at dozens of feet per minute :)
I wonder if 915's are enough for the twin 🤔
For the single, I'd be interested to see what numbers the DeltaHawk diesel can hit.
@CoreyJones314 I've looked at the deltahawk. Problem is that it's a heavy beast. A sweet engine would be the ULPower UL520T. 220hp turbo normalised engine which is about 80lbs lighter than the normal 200hp Lycoming.
@@FasterLower The VTwin six seater that crashed had the UL520T and so far from the reports the UL520T is what went wrong on take off that led to the crash.
@@kvnkaveman it is worth reading through accident report. data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/102636/pdf Basically an engine instrument issue (low oil pressure) so shut engine down. Then they lost a main gear door which went through the prop on the good engine. They were over the gear limit speed at the time AND they flew the prior leg, a few hours, above the gear limit speed as well. They had a gear problem and got FAA dispensation to fly with 2 crew and a restriction to stay below gear limit speed. They busted their speeds and the side slip from the shut down (but serviceable) engine caused the abused gear door to fail. Poor airmanship IMHO. RIP.
ez berkut?
pls
Next do the Mars Rover!!! 😂
The twin is a nice plane but it is not a speed demon, really no twin is...If you want speed you need to step up to the Velocity XL-RG.
How could you make a Velocity video and skip the V-Twin?!?!
OK not wasting my time watching this one
I dont have a motorbike but I do have a Jeep. We love to wave.
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What the dickens! Please don't ever put specs vertical again, what a departure!!