I can see the difference from watching other youtubers videos of them being off road and it does look rough and they say its rough but this bigger tire setup looks the way to go.
I hate when-people add "killer" to their videos, it almost always shows they are beging for views. Any decent 2 srtoke enduro bike would leave this in a cloud of dust though, you do no that right?.
It really depends on your usage. Some parts need to be changed from time to time (bearings) but unless you smash it with big jumps and the likes. It's quite durable.
De beaux franchissements ! Venant du trial (300 gasgas) Je kifferais rouler sans bruit/odeur et faire de la randonnée trialisante avec un surron. L'electric motion est top pour ça mais l'autonomie est ridicule. De plus une batterie supp coute 3k.......... chez surron tu peux avoir une batterie plus puissante que l'electric motion dans les 2k d'après ce que j'ai vu... Il est possible d'installer un embrayage électronique sur le surron ? Et niveau fiabilité, la surron supporte ce genre de traitement lol (trialisant/hard enduro) ?
L’avantage de la Surron c’est que presque tout est possible. Je pensais pas trop mal l’autonomie de la EM. Il faut vraiment que j’en teste une ! Pour l’embrayage oui c’est programmable sur certains contrôleurs mais l’intérêt est limite. La EM a un embrayage avec une vraie fleewheel donc tu peux faire prendre de la vitesse au moteur en débrayant et tout lâché d’un coup. La comme la transmission est directe au final ça revient un peu au même que de couper les gaz… Avec un bon entretient c’est fiable. On maltraite les nôtres depuis 2 ans et RAS à ce jour :)
Merci pour cette vidéo. J'ai kiffé. Moi aussi je veux bien changer ma roue avant. Est ce que je peux mettre un kit de vélo 26'? Il est plus léger que la roue dee cross 21. Qu'est-ce que vous en pensez? Merci d'avance.
Hello! Techniquement parlant, ça marche. Maintenant personnellement je préfère un pneu de moto niveau feeling, mais je sais que certains pilotes utilisent ce montage avec la roue AV de VTT et en sont content.
Salut mec, top qualité comme a ton habitude! 👌Mais perso, tu ne m'aides pas a me décider sur le choix entre 21/19 et 19/19! 🤬🤪😂 Ton frère a changé son bras oscillant?
hahaha. Désoléééé. Tout dépend de ta taille, mon frère qui fait 1m85 préfère la roue de 21 car ça met la moto à sa taille. Comme moi je suis un nain, j'aime bien les petites roues bien maniables. Et quand le terrain est ultra cassant, la 21 préserve un peu les bras 😉
I would be very worried about riding through Trails where there's trees on each side just for the fact there are some really sick people out there that will tie up a cable and there goes your head. Don't believe me well it happened here in Wisconsin with a snowmobiler the owner of a property got sick and tired of the snowmobiles going through his land not that he can grow crops when there's 6 in of snow on it so he put up a wire and it cut the head off of somebody true story.
I do believe you man, that happened about everywhere throughout Europe. In this area were we rode in the video, that never happened to my knowledge though. On top of that, this area is used by hikers, mtbikers, horse-riders and dirt bikers, so a lot of people come through which makes it really hard for such a trap to go unnoticed… But sure, there's always a small risk though ☹
Wouahouuuuu vous envoyez gentiment les copains :)! Ça l’air bien sympa cette monté en gros pneu … quelle taille précisément svp ?21 devant et 18 derrière c est ça ?! Dommage que vous soyez loin je vous aurais bien suivi avec mon etrek 9kw :) pour comparer ! Qu effectivement ça passes partout !:)
Oui t'as tout compris 21/18, les modèles et tailles précis dont dans la description. J'avais jamais vu le etrek. Ils la font encore chez EM? T'es dans quel coin ?
@@MTO_Brothers salut , non le etrek n est plus commercialisé en 2021 , mais encore suivi chez EM (je les ai contacté pour avoir des infos ) , je suis dans le 13 et vous ? L etrek est assez proche du storm bee de Surron , c est type enduro après j ai pas essayé encore le storm bée mais c est bcp plus type moto que le sur ron qui est plus entre le vélo / moto
@@MTO_Brothers طيب العاصفه والنحلة الفايقه كم كيلو يقطع من هذا القبيل ؟@MTO_Brothers Ok, the storm and the ultra bee, how many kilos does one cut like this?
@@MTO_Brothers When aired up past 10psi it is pretty narrow. At 2psi it flattens out big time and has great traction there, but i could see you having contact issues
@@Gonfireman Not sure on exact dimensions but the AT81EX is very small for a 18" Rear Tire Choice. When aired down it gets real short and a very wide contact patch
Super vidéo! Super décor, super skills, super setup! Impressionnant, j'ai pu voir ton setup contrôleur et batterie dans la description vidéo mais pas celui de Cyprien, avez vous les mêmes? Si non, y a t'il une grande différence en riding? Parce que dans la vidéo c'est kiff kiff on dirait
On a le même contrôleur mais Cyprien est sur une batterie d'origine (il tire quand même 8kW dessus). Niveau setup des roues, il est en 21" à l'avant mais il a une 19" à l'arrière. Donc en descente ça l'aide bien, mais l'arrière encaisse quand même moins bien et offre pas le même grip.
@@marcoortizrebanal7056 hola Marco. De hecho, tienes razón. Este moto tiene batería de 72V y un controlador con más potencia (se puede configurar, al momento voy con 15kw). De serie la Surron tiene 5kw.
@@theblackbike9083 It shakes a bit yes. But the fork does wonders and the big wheel helps a lot in the gnarly parts! If I was afraid of being shaken, I'd ride a road bike though hahaha
Yeah, it's starting to become a pattern haha. You can start with the 21" with stock power, as for the 18", with a bigger sprocket, it can work with the stock controller. But you'll definitely get the most out of it with more power!
Thanks man! Yes, that's my plan dto do such a video, just need some time to have different bikes side by side and explain the different upgrade options.
Nice real riding. What battery and controller are you using with your set up? Admittedly did not look through the comments to find out if that was something that was already asked. Do you guys carry an extra battery to make sure you don’t have to push it?
Hey Alex. We're using the Nucular controller. I run a 72V while my brother had a bypassed stock battery at the time. No we don't carry a spare one as it's too heavy. We're just monitoring what we have left for a potential "pit stop".
Hey mate. Sure this is in France, next to Lyon. The village we usually start from is called Pollionnay. Let me know if you come around. We can organise something or at least I'll give you some precise directions.
Depends on the mileage of your competition ride. I usually ride between 30 and 45kms, I also have a bigger battery that can last longer, it's a weight tradeoff also so I just use is when needed.
No I didn't use a riser. The 18" wheel is slightly taller than the original 19" with the tyre, so given the fact that the 21" actually rises the bike by 1" only, you barely notice. Theoretically, I'd be more planted going down while having a tendency to wheelie in the uphills.
thanks for sharing. A bunch of questions. What pressure were you running your tires? On the front end, does it still feel bone jarring or does it feel like a real MX bike (floats over stuff)...it still looked like it felt rough. I'm running a Fox40 with upgraded springs and a 26" MTB wheel (21" moto equivalent) and it's rough as hell going over rocky terrain. Takes the fun out of it... Also, notice a big difference running the Rock Shox R2C vs. stock shock? What avg. range are getting with the wheels and this battery setup?
Hey man. No it clearly floats over things. The terrain is so rough is some places though that it's not a hovercraft either. When riding with friends on actual dirt bikes, I've noticed they're quite shaken too. 26" MTB isn't really comparable apart from the size. The tyre is way tighter, thus you need more pressure and it won't absorb impacts as efficiently as a moto tyre. Regarding the sock, it's a bit better than stock, but the difference isn't night and day like the one you feel replacing the fork by a high end one. The range didn't change much surprisingly with the power I run it at. I guess range depends more on the type of terrain than on the wheels. I guess that I wouldn't get as much range on slower trails as there's a lot of acceleration/deceleration. But on a rather high speed ride, I couldn't see any difference.
@@MTO_Brothers ok, thanks for that info, it all makes sense, helps a lot. Yeah, I run low pressure (16-18 PSI) in the 2.8" MTB tire but even then it's not enough, plus it get's a little sloshy when turning with that low of pressure. I think the moto wheel setup is the way to go for sure, not perfect but probably much better.
Hey Alec! It has absolutely no effect on the top speed as the 18" mounted with the tyre is of the same diameter than the 19" one. You might want to mount a slightly bigger sprocket to increase the torque depending on your setup though. After that, sky's the limit!
Amazing video congratulations to the two guys. You can put links to buy these battery modifications, tires 21 etc. in Spain there are few options in stores .thanks again crack
well all dirt bikes have had 21 inch front 18-in rear tires for years that's all I'm used to riding so it's got to be the best setup but the electrics are on is really light it must just feel better like a regular dirt bike with those rim size tire size
MX bikes still run 19" on the rear. Only enduro use 18". You gain in confort and traction whit the bigger wheels, but the smaller ones give you an incredible agility. There's no better really, it all depends on the terrain! Bike park-like singletracks, I'd go 19" all the way. Gnarly sandy, rocky enduro trails with loads of roots, 21/18 without an hesitation 👌
Without power upgrade, I'd go for a 21" and stay 19" on the rear if anything. The big rear tyre sucks power whereas the bigger front improves obstacles clearing which a negligible power impact.
@@MTO_Brothers I was leaning 18/22 to make the bike bigger. That said tires are more then double the price for 18/21 vs 16/19. I would eventually do power as well just making the bike bigger I feel is a first?
@@Just3adventures It really depends what you're looking for. To make the bike bigger for taller riders, 21" front is a must. 16 or 18 rear don't really rise it. They mainly add grip (and therefore swallow power) and offer more cushion on rocky terrains.
Yup, selling my ZRX1200R if anyone wants it . This video convinced me! Excellent ! Do I go with the Segway or the Sur Ron ? I'm still learning. I understand they both benefit from larger tires
They're basically both the same. The Segway gets a bluetooth app that you can use to tune some settings. I'd say get the one that comes cheaper or faster!
WOW, this video is pretty awesome. What display are you using for speed? Also, I have never done this kind of riding, you ever hit a tree before, that has gotta hurt LOL?
Nice video!! I just want to recommend changing a couple settings on your GoPro though because the high speed image quality is not very good. Shoot me a message and I can help ya! Cheers mate!
Hey man! Not sure there is much to do as it was raining for a large part of the day, hence really low light conditions in the woods. Still, I'm shooting you a DM on Facebook 😉
Salut, alors tout d'abord superbe vidéos!! machine de ouf, tu es d'où ? Si je peux te demander sans indiscrétion ton set up au total ta coûté combien ? Merci et bon ride
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Finally, a Sur Ron video showing a trail as steep and rocky as the trails I have to deal with in my area, thanks!
I can see the difference from watching other youtubers videos of them being off road and it does look rough and they say its rough but this bigger tire setup looks the way to go.
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Really see the skills. Even when you fail you see the experience in dealing with it
Thanks Miguel ☺️
@3:48 Did you wheelie that uphill section?! Siiiiiiiiick!
I couldn't keep the front at bay hahaha
Pourquoi parler anglais. Tu pense pas à t'es amis français la! ^^
Sinon chouette ta video
Si si je pense à eux, pour preuve on prend la peine de faire les ss-titres en Français sur toutes les vidéos 😉
That was some radical riding fellas!!
👍🏼🤙🏼
Якщо ВИ любите КАТАТИСЯ на МОТОЦИКЛІ то ставимо ЛАЙКИ
XD i know where u are in the vidéo, its un france in Montromant.
J'avais un 250 yzf je venais souvent par la
Hehehe, yes bien vu !
@@MTO_Brothers j'ai juste halluciné quand j'ai reconnu, bref bon ride
Toujours qualitatives tes vidéos ! Chapeau :)
Merci beaucoup 😃
try a 18 inch wheel on the back. dunlop 752 tires on the back. metzler on the front 21 inch wheel
I hate when-people add "killer" to their videos, it almost always shows they are beging for views. Any decent 2 srtoke enduro bike would leave this in a cloud of dust though, you do no that right?.
O.k. I for one love the bike and the bigger tires. Now after seeing you demo this beast gotta get one! Thanks for the video.
Hope you'll enjoy your bike man! Let me know how it feels when you get it 🙌
@@MTO_Brothers how much money total are you in it at this point?
@@guywheeler4225 it’s around 10k total with bike and upgrades
@@MTO_Brothers which upgrades have you gotten so far?
GG. Et le franchissement de la souche et du rocher à la fin, très propre, bravo à vous 2.
Super dope pic.. had to click it. brakes sound good to.. lol
Great video dude!!!
What do you think about the quality and durability of this bike? I have 105 kg
Best regards
It really depends on your usage. Some parts need to be changed from time to time (bearings) but unless you smash it with big jumps and the likes. It's quite durable.
is the fork for 29 inch wheel? is this stock battery/motor?
That's my off-road set-up too. Love the traction and easy going over holes and ruts...
Right on!
Hi there, love the vid :-). Just got one question. Which rims are you using ?
De beaux franchissements ! Venant du trial (300 gasgas) Je kifferais rouler sans bruit/odeur et faire de la randonnée trialisante avec un surron. L'electric motion est top pour ça mais l'autonomie est ridicule. De plus une batterie supp coute 3k.......... chez surron tu peux avoir une batterie plus puissante que l'electric motion dans les 2k d'après ce que j'ai vu... Il est possible d'installer un embrayage électronique sur le surron ? Et niveau fiabilité, la surron supporte ce genre de traitement lol (trialisant/hard enduro) ?
L’avantage de la Surron c’est que presque tout est possible. Je pensais pas trop mal l’autonomie de la EM. Il faut vraiment que j’en teste une !
Pour l’embrayage oui c’est programmable sur certains contrôleurs mais l’intérêt est limite. La EM a un embrayage avec une vraie fleewheel donc tu peux faire prendre de la vitesse au moteur en débrayant et tout lâché d’un coup. La comme la transmission est directe au final ça revient un peu au même que de couper les gaz…
Avec un bon entretient c’est fiable. On maltraite les nôtres depuis 2 ans et RAS à ce jour :)
Front tyre had a lot of play, doesn't look anywhere near as stable as 19-inch. I think I'll stick to my stock setup after watching this video :)
Whaaaat? Not sure what you're meaning here, but 21 is way more stable than 19. Not as playful for sure, but regarding stability it's night and day.
Merci pour cette vidéo. J'ai kiffé. Moi aussi je veux bien changer ma roue avant. Est ce que je peux mettre un kit de vélo 26'? Il est plus léger que la roue dee cross 21. Qu'est-ce que vous en pensez? Merci d'avance.
Hello! Techniquement parlant, ça marche. Maintenant personnellement je préfère un pneu de moto niveau feeling, mais je sais que certains pilotes utilisent ce montage avec la roue AV de VTT et en sont content.
Is the power of the motor at an agency where nothing happened, 60 volts at 32 amps at 3000 watts?
Just an Idea...why don't you guys do a Video on Technique to get up over that Rock near end of video with a Sur Ron :)
Very good idea mate! We've been asked to many times about technique tutorials so we're gonna give it a go 👍
Looking really good on your Surron!!
You said it’s less nimble than with the 19”, is it really disturbing?
Not disturbing. You just trade a bit of agility for a bit of stability and rolling power.
Salut mec, top qualité comme a ton habitude! 👌Mais perso, tu ne m'aides pas a me décider sur le choix entre 21/19 et 19/19! 🤬🤪😂
Ton frère a changé son bras oscillant?
hahaha. Désoléééé.
Tout dépend de ta taille, mon frère qui fait 1m85 préfère la roue de 21 car ça met la moto à sa taille.
Comme moi je suis un nain, j'aime bien les petites roues bien maniables. Et quand le terrain est ultra cassant, la 21 préserve un peu les bras 😉
serious skills on the bike! that rock climb does not look easy
I would be very worried about riding through Trails where there's trees on each side just for the fact there are some really sick people out there that will tie up a cable and there goes your head. Don't believe me well it happened here in Wisconsin with a snowmobiler the owner of a property got sick and tired of the snowmobiles going through his land not that he can grow crops when there's 6 in of snow on it so he put up a wire and it cut the head off of somebody true story.
I do believe you man, that happened about everywhere throughout Europe. In this area were we rode in the video, that never happened to my knowledge though. On top of that, this area is used by hikers, mtbikers, horse-riders and dirt bikers, so a lot of people come through which makes it really hard for such a trap to go unnoticed… But sure, there's always a small risk though ☹
Wouahouuuuu vous envoyez gentiment les copains :)! Ça l’air bien sympa cette monté en gros pneu … quelle taille précisément svp ?21 devant et 18 derrière c est ça ?! Dommage que vous soyez loin je vous aurais bien suivi avec mon etrek 9kw :) pour comparer ! Qu effectivement ça passes partout !:)
Oui t'as tout compris 21/18, les modèles et tailles précis dont dans la description.
J'avais jamais vu le etrek. Ils la font encore chez EM?
T'es dans quel coin ?
@@MTO_Brothers salut , non le etrek n est plus commercialisé en 2021 , mais encore suivi chez EM (je les ai contacté pour avoir des infos ) , je suis dans le 13 et vous ?
L etrek est assez proche du storm bee de Surron , c est type enduro après j ai pas essayé encore le storm bée mais c est bcp plus type moto que le sur ron qui est plus entre le vélo / moto
バッテリーが半分の稼働時間でも良いから重さも半分の5キロ位のあればいいなー
What is the autonomy of those bikes?. I'm afraid to get stranded out of juice
With a proper battery, you can ride for about 3 to 4 hours.
Dude you absolutely shred this thing!! Also, the 2 second pause right before you fall over at @3:26 😂😂been there, done that!
Thanks mate!
hahaha, the moment you know you're gonna fall and wait for gravity to do its thing 😝
you ain't killing shit. cool toy though
How many kilometers does Siron travel when going up to these slopes when the battery is full of electricity?
You can do about 30-35km of off-road like that
@@MTO_Brothers طيب العاصفه والنحلة الفايقه كم كيلو يقطع من هذا القبيل ؟@MTO_Brothers Ok, the storm and the ultra bee, how many kilos does one cut like this?
Mais parlez français les gars !! super vidéo 🤘
On varie on varie :) Merci 😎
Love it! Great job! Look at an AT81EX Rear tire as a choice. Probably the lightest gummy tire in 18" that works for all hard enduro stuff
Thanks mate, I should definitely look into this tyre! Just gotta make sure its knobbies don't touch the chain.
@@MTO_Brothers When aired up past 10psi it is pretty narrow. At 2psi it flattens out big time and has great traction there, but i could see you having contact issues
Dimmensions of tire? Do u cut off knobies ?
@@Gonfireman Not sure on exact dimensions but the AT81EX is very small for a 18" Rear Tire Choice. When aired down it gets real short and a very wide contact patch
Super vidéo! Super décor, super skills, super setup! Impressionnant, j'ai pu voir ton setup contrôleur et batterie dans la description vidéo mais pas celui de Cyprien, avez vous les mêmes?
Si non, y a t'il une grande différence en riding? Parce que dans la vidéo c'est kiff kiff on dirait
On a le même contrôleur mais Cyprien est sur une batterie d'origine (il tire quand même 8kW dessus).
Niveau setup des roues, il est en 21" à l'avant mais il a une 19" à l'arrière. Donc en descente ça l'aide bien, mais l'arrière encaisse quand même moins bien et offre pas le même grip.
bike goes downhill very well..
It's a DH bike that goes up as well as it goes down 😝
❤
What kind of display screen is that?
It’s the Nucular’s
EBeast and Efox is like a BAC4000 Sur Ron but cheaper and it comes stock with a 72v 50ah lithium battery. Also from Mother China like the Sur Ron!
Care to share a link? Couldn't find these bikes online.
Great content and on some challenging trails. Love it. Keep it up.
Hi. What is Cyprien front tire size in this video? 80/100?
How did yours still pull so hard with draining battery
High quality batteries pull pretty hard up until the end 🤘
Sur Ron Big Wheel, now this a E-bike I would love to own, by far one from the Top-Shelf, WE live & learn!
Ey I am from Spain and I do not know English very well, you have a more powerful controller in this video, right?
If i was right, who is the power, and who is the power of surron when you buy it?
@@marcoortizrebanal7056 hola Marco. De hecho, tienes razón. Este moto tiene batería de 72V y un controlador con más potencia (se puede configurar, al momento voy con 15kw). De serie la Surron tiene 5kw.
On cherche la route, on prend la route, super trial travail, et puis a maison pour fumer un joint! :) Great TH-cam Dude ! Respect
You are crazy man, i think i will upgrade to 21 too 🤔
Hahaha, thanks man. Yeah the 21" is a game changer, you go over everything like it was nothing.
The lighter you are, the better the suspension has to be. Cant imaging how 19“ feel like if im only 55kgs 😅. Crazy shaking i guess.
@@theblackbike9083 It shakes a bit yes. But the fork does wonders and the big wheel helps a lot in the gnarly parts!
If I was afraid of being shaken, I'd ride a road bike though hahaha
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Two questions, how much $
and distance.
Great video..I have the Enduro 21x18 set up, no complaints
Thanks! Yep for enduro 21/18 is the way to go for sure.
OMG! ;-)
crazy boys.keep going.bigger brothers suck*)
Hello from spain!! I like one of this!!! Its Amazing!!!!
Hola! What area do you live in? We'll have them back in stock soon 👍
What did you do build your wheels yourself ?
I haven't built them myself. But some have done so.
Those goggle are always a good laugh. Would you recommend upgrading the stock controller before getting this wheel setup?
Yeah, it's starting to become a pattern haha. You can start with the 21" with stock power, as for the 18", with a bigger sprocket, it can work with the stock controller. But you'll definitely get the most out of it with more power!
those types of bikes are great for smaller riders but way to cramped for a 6 foot plus rider 200 plus pounder
Yeah at some point you have to modify the bike to adapt bigger riders.
刺激！
Salut!
Ton pneu arrière c'est du 2.5?? Il paraît gros 🤔
Et a l'avant tu as du 90/100-21?
Saurais tu où je peux en acheter(le pneu ar)?
Non c'est une 3.5, je l'ai mis dans la description. Je l'avais acheté en ligne, mais je ne sais plus trop où…
Hey is That the Original surron Motor ?
Hey mate, yes the motor is 100% stock!
@@MTO_Brothers amazing how much power u can get from this motor
Thanks for the answer ✌️
And me thinking about getting the Honda Navi 😂 I'm getting this one for sure 👍
You won't be disappointed!
Bonjour , possible de savoir ou trouver ce type de roue , les prix ? Merci
Would you be able to make a video that’s tells us about all the upgrades that have been done to the bike? Also a great video 💯
Thanks man! Yes, that's my plan dto do such a video, just need some time to have different bikes side by side and explain the different upgrade options.
Salut, le CST c 755 3.50 est monter sur le 18 pouce sans modification ? Merci
Oui 👍
Awesome video in Tips thanks for sharing!!
How many kilometer range round trip are you getting with that controller/72v batt/15k tune? It appears to have ample power even for extreme climbing!
It will vary a lot based on battery, speed, elevation, rider's weight etc. On average, 30km of off-road is quite good.
Nice real riding. What battery and controller are you using with your set up? Admittedly did not look through the comments to find out if that was something that was already asked. Do you guys carry an extra battery to make sure you don’t have to push it?
Hey Alex. We're using the Nucular controller. I run a 72V while my brother had a bypassed stock battery at the time.
No we don't carry a spare one as it's too heavy. We're just monitoring what we have left for a potential "pit stop".
You swing arm is amazing I bought one it is out of this world
Glad you're enjoying it brother 🙌
@@MTO_Brothers keep up the amazing work
This place is amazing! Can you share where it is? I'm in the Netherlands and would love to ride my Surron there
Hey mate. Sure this is in France, next to Lyon. The village we usually start from is called Pollionnay.
Let me know if you come around. We can organise something or at least I'll give you some precise directions.
Does the bike have enough battery to last a complete long Enduro ride?
If so how much would you estimate you could cover for miles?
Depends on the mileage of your competition ride. I usually ride between 30 and 45kms, I also have a bigger battery that can last longer, it's a weight tradeoff also so I just use is when needed.
Did you put a riser linkage to correct geometry? If so, did you put the 1.5” one?
No I didn't use a riser. The 18" wheel is slightly taller than the original 19" with the tyre, so given the fact that the 21" actually rises the bike by 1" only, you barely notice.
Theoretically, I'd be more planted going down while having a tendency to wheelie in the uphills.
How many kilometers /mileage with full batery..?
around 30kms
T au top mec !!! ✌️
il passaggio trialistico al minuto 6 non è per niente semplice: il legno ha una superficie quasi sempre liscia e viscida. buon passaggio!
thanks for sharing. A bunch of questions.
What pressure were you running your tires? On the front end, does it still feel bone jarring or does it feel like a real MX bike (floats over stuff)...it still looked like it felt rough. I'm running a Fox40 with upgraded springs and a 26" MTB wheel (21" moto equivalent) and it's rough as hell going over rocky terrain. Takes the fun out of it...
Also, notice a big difference running the Rock Shox R2C vs. stock shock?
What avg. range are getting with the wheels and this battery setup?
Hey man.
No it clearly floats over things. The terrain is so rough is some places though that it's not a hovercraft either. When riding with friends on actual dirt bikes, I've noticed they're quite shaken too.
26" MTB isn't really comparable apart from the size. The tyre is way tighter, thus you need more pressure and it won't absorb impacts as efficiently as a moto tyre.
Regarding the sock, it's a bit better than stock, but the difference isn't night and day like the one you feel replacing the fork by a high end one.
The range didn't change much surprisingly with the power I run it at. I guess range depends more on the type of terrain than on the wheels. I guess that I wouldn't get as much range on slower trails as there's a lot of acceleration/deceleration. But on a rather high speed ride, I couldn't see any difference.
@@MTO_Brothers ok, thanks for that info, it all makes sense, helps a lot. Yeah, I run low pressure (16-18 PSI) in the 2.8" MTB tire but even then it's not enough, plus it get's a little sloshy when turning with that low of pressure. I think the moto wheel setup is the way to go for sure, not perfect but probably much better.
Super vidéo, merci pour les infos
I have 2 19” wheels and ride a tone of trails, kind of want to try out this 21/18 set up now, how does it effect your top speed?
Hey Alec!
It has absolutely no effect on the top speed as the 18" mounted with the tyre is of the same diameter than the 19" one.
You might want to mount a slightly bigger sprocket to increase the torque depending on your setup though. After that, sky's the limit!
Super bella ...bel video... ciao dall'Italia
Amazing video congratulations to the two guys.
You can put links to buy these battery modifications, tires 21 etc. in Spain there are few options in stores .thanks again crack
Hey man! We're setting up a store where all the parts will be available. Subscribe and you'll be notified when it's out 🤟
well all dirt bikes have had 21 inch front 18-in rear tires for years that's all I'm used to riding so it's got to be the best setup but the electrics are on is really light it must just feel better like a regular dirt bike with those rim size tire size
MX bikes still run 19" on the rear. Only enduro use 18".
You gain in confort and traction whit the bigger wheels, but the smaller ones give you an incredible agility. There's no better really, it all depends on the terrain!
Bike park-like singletracks, I'd go 19" all the way. Gnarly sandy, rocky enduro trails with loads of roots, 21/18 without an hesitation 👌
What gearing did u ride?
52T but 58T is recommended
the breaks....oh dear
You meant brakes?
Whats the motor setup
It's the stock motor, but juiced up at 15kW with a 72V battery.
Wie schnell fährt die Karre jetzt?
Sweet trials loves 😍
Salut , peux tu parler d'autonomie stp.... Combien de temps tu peux rider avec cette merveille?
Ce jour là on a fait beaucoup de technique et on a roulé plus de 3h. En général c'est 2h de roulage en moyenne en batterie d'origine.
So your running the nuc24 and 72v in this video? Would you do 16/19 or 18/21 as a first mod before a power upgrade ?
Without power upgrade, I'd go for a 21" and stay 19" on the rear if anything. The big rear tyre sucks power whereas the bigger front improves obstacles clearing which a negligible power impact.
@@MTO_Brothers I was leaning 18/22 to make the bike bigger. That said tires are more then double the price for 18/21 vs 16/19. I would eventually do power as well just making the bike bigger I feel is a first?
@@Just3adventures It really depends what you're looking for. To make the bike bigger for taller riders, 21" front is a must. 16 or 18 rear don't really rise it. They mainly add grip (and therefore swallow power) and offer more cushion on rocky terrains.
What size sprocket are you running with this setup? Are you still running 15kw?
Still on with 15kW. 52T sprocket, but it deserves more (58 might be a good start).
Surron stock?
All but stock… Brakes, suspensions, wheels and more power here.
How many minutes of riding can you get from the bike?
I ride around 2hrs
Yup, selling my ZRX1200R if anyone wants it . This video convinced me! Excellent ! Do I go with the Segway or the Sur Ron ? I'm still learning.
I understand they both benefit from larger tires
They're basically both the same. The Segway gets a bluetooth app that you can use to tune some settings. I'd say get the one that comes cheaper or faster!
WOW, this video is pretty awesome. What display are you using for speed? Also, I have never done this kind of riding, you ever hit a tree before, that has gotta hurt LOL?
Thanks man!
Yeah we crashed multiple times. The secret is to be equipped with MX/Enduro protective gears. Then most crashes end up in a good laugh.
What’s the exact suron and the exact setup? Can you attach below. I want one asap
All the details are in the description brother 🤟
Peux-tu me dire le model de tes roues et quel model de disque avant tu-as posé? Merci!! Ton setup est parfait belle machine!!
Merci ! Les roues sont des smpro et le modèle des pneus sont dans la description. Le disque est un Magura 223mm.
Nice job with the stump, looked like so much fun. Was the other bike (w/orange swing arm) stock power?
The other bike runs at 8kW. So it's not stock but not as much as the blue one.
Isn’t that the same wheel size as KTM off-road bikes?
Exactly the same wheel size. My tyre selection is a bit narrower though.
Nice video!! I just want to recommend changing a couple settings on your GoPro though because the high speed image quality is not very good. Shoot me a message and I can help ya! Cheers mate!
Hey man! Not sure there is much to do as it was raining for a large part of the day, hence really low light conditions in the woods.
Still, I'm shooting you a DM on Facebook 😉
J’ai découvert t‘as chaîne hier, excellentes tes vidéos!
Merci à toi 😁
Fantástico!
One question, where i can buy this wheels?
Thankyou
Are you looking for a set of 21/18 or just a 21 front?
@@MTO_Brothers 21/18 set
Salut, alors tout d'abord superbe vidéos!! machine de ouf, tu es d'où ? Si je peux te demander sans indiscrétion ton set up au total ta coûté combien ? Merci et bon ride
Salut ! Je suis de Lyon. L'ensemble a coûté dans les 10 000€. Il faut essayer de revendre les pièces que tu remplaces, ça adoucit un peu la note 😉