72V Sur Ron Enduro | 🚀 First Ride with 300% Power Increase 🚀
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2021
- I've been riding the Surron at 13kW for more than 6 months and it is absolutely amazing! But power is a drug and you always want more. I am addicted ⚡️😝
So I decided to increase my bike's power even more: setting the motor's power to an astounding 15 000 Watts! Will the motor temps stay under control? Will I be able to handle the power? These are the questions that came to my mind.
List of upgrades and parts on our Sur Ron
Best Value Upgrades
S3 Handlebar Grips mto.bike/product/s3-enduro-mx...
Spank Bars mto.bike/product/spank-spoon-...
Rear shock coil/spring mto.bike/product/rear-suspens...
High quality brake pads mto.bike/product/brake-author...
Hope Floating Disc mto.bike/product/hope-floatin...
S3 Enduro Foot Pegs mto.bike/product/s3-enduro-fo...
58T Sprocket mto.bike/product/58t-coloured...
Primary chain kit mto.bike/product/sur-ron-prim...
Bash Guard
Chassis Upgrades
Fox 40 Black Edition mto.bike/product/fox-40-black...
Reinforced Wheels mto.bike/category/wheels/
18" Tire mto.bike/product/18-inch-off-...
21" Tire mto.bike/product/21-inch-off-...
Hope Brakes mto.bike/product/hope-tech-4-...
Sur Ron Racing Swingarm mto.bike/product/sur-ron-raci...
Power Upgrades
Battery mto.bike/category/power/
High end controller (ASI BAC, Nucular, Silixcon) - กีฬา
Your throttle control is just on another level dude, and mad props for totally insane riding skills!
👍🏼🤙🏼👍🏼
Thanks brother!
@@MTO_Brothers hello man, what about range on this configuration (72V, 15kW, fat tires)? And what a gear ratio stay now? Sorry for my English
buddy.you have GOT to be the BEST surron rider on youtube!killer video!
Thank you brother! I'll try not to disappoint with the coming ones!
Epic video, and some great skill on display as well!! I would really like to get my hands on one as I'm an avid downhill mtb rider and think I would appreciate that mtb feel you were talking about👍
You would definitely like it man! There are dealers a bit everywhere these days. Try to get your hands on one 🤟
Ça arrache mec! 🤪 Super vidéo comme a ton habitude. Et les jantes ❤️
T'as l'œil, oui les jantes sont vraiment jolies 😍
@@MTO_Brothers j’en ai eu une paire entre les mains chez Eoos et j’ai failli m’enfuir avec! 😂 tu es toujours en 19/19 ?
@@desokarukera6218 Yes, je n'en démord pas. Je tease quand même: prochaine vidéo test de la monte 21/18 😉
Badass bike upgrade, n great handling.
You have mad skill Man ! 👌
Amazing bike and riding! 🤙
naughty bike ! nice work fella
Soooo Much Poweeerrr ;) Awesome lad keep it up!..
Big Hugs from Scotland!!...
Hahahaha, you got infected by the Bruno spirit mate! Thanks a lot 🙌
Damn!!! you amazing control!!!
Sick wheelies bro🤙 glad you got home on a flat!! Noooo the goggles 😂
Yeah these google never want to stay in place! That's the good point of these tyres that hase such strong sidewalls, you can ride them (gently) even with a flat.
Who sells this storm bee or enduro?
@@andrehansen585 depends where
@@MTO_Brothers Europe or USA? I guess its possible to ship
@@andrehansen585 You have a lot dealers in Europe and in the US, it's Luna Cycle
just found your channel....new Sub . loving the content!
Thanks a lot man! I hope I won't disappoint :)
Los mejores vídeos sur ron 🙌🙌👍
Graciiasss amigo!
Top video !
Dam that looks fast ✊
Can’t wait to be running 15kw
IT IS fast indeed! You won't regret it man. When you get it, buckle up! 🚀
@@MTO_Brothers in your latest trail blast ( Sik ! ) I'm interested about temps you say 70 ish degrees, are you using fw ? Or have you set the battery power output just 15kw and no flux ..
Flux will raise temps quicker don't use flux unless charge level has dropped some ?
The 16” Tusk rim and lightweight Mitas tire on rear of my Sur Ron work great. Shinzo 520 on front.
Isn’t the 16” plus tyre lower than the stock 19?
@@MTO_Brothers Nope same height!
7:22 insane almost life-changing wipe out!
The tree came close! With all the protective pads, crashes are often more impressive than they are harmful, thank god.
Looks just as fun as i have on my motorbike on the trails
In the end, it's just a motorbike! Just a bit different.
Every puddle he just squeezes the throttle and launches over it! 😳👍👊🇦🇺
Wow beautiful trails, would love to shred out there
Yeah, I reckon we're lucky to have these spots so close by. Where do you ride at brother?
Woooww thats a siiiiick video mate.. handling 15kw is not for everyone... most people would flip the bike at that power level hahaa soooo much POWEEEEEEERRR ohh yeahh ohh yeahh =]
SUBSCRIBED to your channel yess....
Woowooo, thank you Bruno! I'm honoured to have you on board 😎
Damnnn, need this setup!
You bet!
Incroyable 😮
Intense used to sell red ultra heavy duty tubes for downhill. They also sell real heavy duty mtb tires. I use to ride with them in whistler and they give a lot confidence just take care of not bending your rims with that extra confidence
You’re right man. At some point the rim is the limit. That’s why I often ride with the 18’ rear tyre for more cushion.
wow that thing is a beast! Im looking for a similar upgrade for my Talaria which are lagging behind on parts at the moment.
It’s going to slowly reach maturity 😉
like a boss!!!!!
So cant wait to get mine in march or sooner
I feel you man. You’ll love it!
That's what I'm talking about! Also what I'm running at (with BAC8000). Are you running a 64T sprocket? I would for sure if you're running 15kw - less chance of burning up the motor 👍 unless you are very light weight - then maybe 58T will do well :) also larger sprocket will make your battery last longer since it's less strain (less amps for the same torque). Slightly lower top speed but not like anyone hits the bikes top speed on trails like this anyway 👍
Also get rim lock on your rear wheel! Will prevent stem leak flats!
Dope video as always! ⚡💪⚡ Wish I had trails like this around where I live!
Hey Travis, always glad to read you man!
Still running the 48T, which equates to a 52T taking my primary chain sprocket into account.
I tried a 58T but that was too big, it was always getting hit by rocks and stuff.
If I were a bit heavier (55kg, so yeah, not much haha), I'd need a bigger sprocket for increase torque. Currently it's just perfect but I tried the 18" rear last week and with this one I felt the need for a bigger sprocket.
As for the top speed, I currently can hit 110km/h, so clearly, loosing 15% wouldn't be such an issue, especially since I could increase field weakening to compensate for those rare moments you need the top end!
Also I measured to range difference and it's wasn't conclusive per my tests. Check out the related video and let me know what you think!
th-cam.com/video/_NurZ97J2EQ/w-d-xo.html
You're right for the rim lock by the way. Used to have one on the rear. I was running tubeless though this time. Looks like it's not bulletproof!
@@MTO_Brothers Ah gotcha! Yeah I never tried tubeless but will in the future if this one gets a flat or anything. I love my rim lock because it lets me get down to 8 psi for tons of grip! :)
And ohh I see, you are very light indeed. I am very heavy, haha. 87kg! Not fat, just tall and got some muscles 💪 lol.
I do a nearby track and have tested 48T, 54T, 58T and 64T. 54-58T was nice for street since it gave me that extra top speed but for me, 64T gave me the most range - especially on the off-road trails (similar to the ones you ride). It also felt the best for torque. I wonder if my extra range with the 64T was just due to my weight then, hmm. Man sometimes I wish I was as light as you for riding these bikes, haha! Lucky! If you hit rocks with the sprocket though it's understandable. I never hit a rock with mine. I guess it would have to be a very particular scenario to hit it with a rock but definitely possible. My main worry would be the motor - I have seen so many people burn out their motor using a 48T sprocket with 15kw. That's why normally with 48T sprocket, people will stay at 12-13kw. But if you go 58-64T sprocket then you can ride 15kw forever :) Maybe with your weight it won't be a problem though!
Anyway man you are probably my favorite youtube channel! Love seeing you rip through these trails! Wish we were closer so we could rip some trails together! Especially love the really technical trails. Keep the videos coming!
@@TravisNobles Thank you for the kind words Travis! Yeah too bad we're living sooo far. I still have in my mind that at some point, we'll put the bikes in our van, the van in a boat and go for a US road trip with my brother, that'd be nuts!!
In the end, even my brother who's taller and heavier than me (75kg) didn't see noticeable range difference with the 58T. So we both reverted back to our equivalent of 52T (48T rear w/ primary 13/32). I'm always keeping an eye on the temps and so far it looks fine, in any case I configured the controller to cut-off if getting to high.
By the way, don't you ever have the temps increase due to field weakening when going at high speeds (bigger sprockets have the motor rotate faster)?
Although when it tested the 18" rear wheel the other day (video coming soon!) I felt like a bigger sprocket would be required for the heavier wheel as it lacked a bit of torque on those steeper uphills at low speeds.
@@MTO_Brothers ha, that would be awesome! Global Sur Ron trip!
The majority of the heat is not generated by how fast the motor spind, but by how many amps it's pulling. And motors on bikes like this trend to pull the most amps at very low or starting rpm's. Overall heat is not the only thing that can kill your motor. Pulling such amps at the start can kill it. This is why the larger sprockets are such a huge benefit - they relieve that stress on the motor (at lower rpms) and draw less amps to get you up to speed. This is also why it typically makes the battery last longer (and it's also less strain on the battery and controller - making the life of the entire system last longer). Even with field weakening - yes, that definitely gets the motor hotter at the high end but a larger sprocket will still relieve the stress of that added amperage. Again, it's not the speed that kills it.
All of that being said though, I think you are probably ok at your weight :) though I might suggest at least 52T. That would feel close to the same as what you have but with slightly more torque and less strain on the motor.
And yes, a larger sprocket is definitely needed for the heavier 18" wheels and beefier tires! At least the stock tire is lightweight but... Not nearly as much grip as an 18 with a knobby tire. A better idea would be a 16" tire but maybe you would need the 18 for the trails you ride (to keep the bash plate higher).
Scary Fast!
A car in the middle of nowhere! 😂😂😂
Amazing!!!!
So sad I cant do this in Holland. Otherwise I would took a nicer battery also!
Why can't you do that over there? You mean no mountains?
@@MTO_Brothers that also, but limited to 45, or need motorcycle license then you need insurance, lights, blinkers etc etc kinda BS if you ask me
Hey man awesome video. I have a small question why do you have stock controler on this video there is any chanse to upgrade it to 15kW? I thought it posible only with costom one like from BAC, KO etc.
Hey Ostap, this is not the stock controller. We simply kept the original cover plate, which we thought was quite neat :)
@MTO_Brothers what controller is it??? Is it bac4000?
Sa fait rêver ta prepa . Combien pour lupgrade puissance ? Je suis entrain de me tâter pour la modif du contrôleur et batterie ^^
On cherche tj plus :)
En tout cas gg et fait attention à toi ;)
Merci mec ! Selon ce que tu arrives à trouver comme bon plan faut compter entre 2000 et 3000€ pour contrôleur et batterie.
Thank you, I'm finding it difficult to find a 72v 15,000watt battery. Any advice on where to get a big battery that will fit and where would you suggest i go to purchase all the top suspension, 21" front 19" rear wheels and is the bac 4000 or 8000 better to buy straight away and het it tuned like you said you have done, thank you very much for your time and reply. I have a few phones so i have subscribed on all 3 and hit the like button for all of your previous videos and i will continue to do that with your future videos,
It depends, where are you based.
@@MTO_Brothers Thailand, thank you
Nice ! which bark busters are those?
These are Acerbis Rallye Profile
salut ! super tes vidéos ! je viens de te decouvrir et j'avoue que je suis assez bluffé par la Surron .. je connais très bien le secteur ou tu roules car cela fait presque 20 ans que j'y roule en moto enduro et ça fait quelques temps que je me tâte pour franchir le cap de l'electrique. Vu les modif que tu as fait dessus ça me motive d'autant plus.. Possible de se caler et de se faire une session ensemble ? ça me permettrai de comparer . J'habite a quelques minutes de la luère ;) Franchement ça serait top ! si ça te dis .. par contre fais gaffe certains passages que tu filmes sont clairement interdit !! L'onf était encore là le weekend dernier pour le rappeler ;)
Salut !
Écoute on est toujours chaud de rouler avec d’autres enduristes. Envoie moi un mp sur Facebook ou Instagram pour qu’on se cale.
Ah merde, pour les passages interdits. A quels moments de la vidéo ?
C'est quasiment interdit partout de toutes façons... En forêt, ne sont autorisés uniquement que les VTTAE (donc avec pédales) et avec un moteur de 250W lol Ce qui à mon sens est une abberation, une privation de liberté... Enfin bref... 🤐 Néanmoins, t'es pas prêt de croiser la marais chaussée dans ces contrées, ça c'est tant mieux, et encore heureux ! 😁
Super vidéo ! Sinon pourquoi t’as pas pris une storm bee ? Avec le recul et tout les ajouts sur la light bee ça aurait été plus rentable ?
En comparaison poids puissance rien à voir et puis pas du tout le même feeling
C'est exactement ce que dit Kevin. C'est pas une question de prix, c'est la sensation de pilotage. Le Storm au final c'est 11kW pour ±120kg, là j'ai 15kW pour ±50kg.
C'est incomparable la fluidité sur des singletracks. Regarde ma vidéo de montagne pour t'en convaincre. th-cam.com/video/T2wilPrQd5A/w-d-xo.html
@@MTO_Brothers Merci pour la réponse ! Et tqt je te crois pour la fluidité c’est impressionnant dans tes vidéos !
@@valentijnrecord5348 😎
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A modified one like this runs up to like 10 grand. Translate button is dope
Charge is like 3 hours. 15kw to metric hp is 20 hp on this tiny 50 kg bike
Crazy surron, and really good driver! Would Love to test your surron, und Check Out the difference 🤣👌
You'd be taken aback by the sheer power if yours is currently stock! But some even ride with more power than I do 🤷♂️
@@MTO_Brothers thx for your reply, i think your Power is Just insane, will try to Catch some parts during Winter Break. Ride Safe 🤗
What a forest highway 😵🙏
Salut,dans la description tu dit qu'il est possible de modifier la puissance avec les éléments d'origine de 5kw à 8kw .
Même si je voulais vraiment changer batterie et contrôleur les pièces sont vraiment trop dure a trouvé en France pour le moment.
Je suis donc très intéressé par cette modification donc si tu à quelle info je suis preneur.
La batterie d'origine permet moyennent un bypass ou le changement du BMS de fournir 8kW. Le contrôleur doit en revanche être changé. Cependant, certains arrivent à modifier le contrôleur d'origine, ce n'est pas facile, mais ça se fait. Tu peux regarder le groupe Facebook "Sur Ron / Segway Stock XX R Modifications".
@@MTO_Brothers Perso, déjà stock faut se faire la main sur petits chemins ^^ quand je vois comme elle envoie la tienne, j'ai encore pas mal à progresser :)
Pour info, en Europe tu trouves pas les pièces (contrôleur et batterie) pour faire l'upgrade ... Il y avait un mec qui t'envoyait ça d'Angleterre, mais à l'heure actuelle, il n'a plus de stock...
@@lpotoenbois Oui il faut y aller step by step sinon c'est quelques frayeurs assurées.
Il faut faire preuve de patience pour les pièces. Le Nucular c'est ±6mois d'attente (depuis le site du fabriquant).
salut super video, est-ce que tu pourrais faire un bike check de tous ce que t'a fait dessus,....
Salut Benoit! Yes il faut absolument que j'en fasse un. J'essaye de faire ça en septembre. On veut faire les choses bien et présenter plusieurs motos avec différents choix 😉
@@MTO_Brothers merci parce que la je suis à 2 doigts de m'en acheter un 😂😂
@@benoithenry9069 franchement tu peux y aller même d’origine c’est déjà des super sensations !
I spy a MUCH better Speedo/dash than my stock one on your bike… where did you get it?
This is the Nucular controller's screen
Salut!
Tu la choppes où ta batterie 72v ?
Et y’a un intérêt à l’utiliser sans le controller ?
Super chaîne, je me régale à chaque vidéo
Raph
Salut Raph!
Pour celle-ci j'ai acheté les cellules et fabriqué moi-même. Mais c'est assez fastidieux. Je bosse sur un partenariat en ce moment pour en commercialiser des plus performantes.
72V sur le contrôleur d'origine ça ne marchera pas du tout en revanche, donc non, aucun intérêt 😝
Ah ben c’est good ça !!
Fais signe quand tu penses commercialiser, ça m’intéresse !
@@MTO_Brothers salut, alors le partenariat ? On veut des news 😆
Whow ça dépote grave
Hey man, great riding! What do you figure that bike is worth at this point? I think I need one...
I've looked into this.. for the set up I've seen with the bike, the controller, and the 72v battery were talking around 6-7 grand..I think these things are sweet but idk if I can justify spending that kinda cake
@@lopenope no doubt. That's a lot of cake.
How long does the battery last? Did it wear down hard like this? Less future ride times?
Riding at this pace, I rode around 2 hours, like I do most of the time 😀
@@MTO_Brothers how much battery after 2 hours?
Dove è possibile acquistarla ?
Quand il ya une branche au milieu du chemin on l'enlève comme ça tout le monde Entretien le passage ;) bon ride
Yes, ce que je fais habituellement, mais comme on voit sur la vidéo, il commençait à être tard et à faire sombre !
C'est une zone dans laquelle des gens arrêtent pas de mettre exprès des branches en travers…
Encore 3 ou 4 vidéos, il aura installé des ailes et il en sera à faire des wheeling sur la lune 😁
🤣
Does your Hope Tech breaks have steel braided lines?
Yes they do come with aviation braided hoses.
You almost lost it at 2:35 lol 😂
Yeah got a bit surprised by the torque! Hopefully I have good muscle memory and hit the rear break instantly.
Salut,
Comme toujours ce sont de superbes vidéos.
J’ai une question: combien de RPM le moteur peut-il supporter?
Je te remercie par avance pour ton retour et bonne continuation
Tout dépend de ce que tu appelles supporter. Il peut monter à 9 ou 10 000 tr/min sans soucis sans se désintégrer. Évidemment à cette vitesse il chauffe, donc il ne peut pas supporter ça de manière continue.
waouh 😲tant que ça !!! j'ai bridé le mien a 6500 rpm (80km/h).
ton moteur est toujours d'origine ? il n'a jamais cassé un aiment ?
Il faut ensuite trouver le contrôleur capable de le faire tourner à cette vitesse. Je tourne vers 8, 9000 au max. Le Nucular ne peut pas faire mieux mais le BAC n'a pas de peine à le faire monter beaucoup plus haut.
RAS du côté des aimants, je l'ai déjà démonté il est comme neuf.
@@MTO_Brothers moi j’ai le VOTOL, je peux régler les RPM mais j’ai jamais osé lui mettre plus.
En tout cas merci pour tes réponse
@@scalecrawlerteamrc0470 il est annoncé pour 5500 en continu, donc tu peux le faire tourner sans problème à 8000 en pointe. Faut surtout surveiller les températures.
bonjour.
peux tu expliquer comment passer de 5kw a 8kw en modifiant la batterie d'origine ?
merci pour la video
ben
il faut évidemment changer le contrôleur déjà. Ensuite, pour avoir plus de puissance tout en conservant la batterie d'origine, il faut changer son BMS ou le bypasser.
You stll need a 18inch rear bad boy and a 21 front for the full transformation
That’s exactly the subject of our next video: enduro wheels! Stay tuned 🤘
What was the final price of the 15 kw build ?
Around 10k
where do you get all the upgraded parts to build this beast?
Here and there! Internet and patience are your friends. Where do you live?
@@MTO_Brothers I’m in Southern California. What do you recommend?
@@TrueEarth369 Emoto bros look very serious. But for the batteries currently, Litespeed might be the best option
@@MTO_Brothers ok, thanks man, I’ll look into them. I want a similar set up as you.. I have a ktm 500 excf currently.. an ebike can be ridden so many more places than the ktm
I'm currently on the fence of buying an upgrade controller and battery. I'm not sure between bac 4000 and 8000. What do you think?
4000 is plenty.
I agree with James. Unless the price gap is really low, 4000 allows for A LOT of power already. I don't know if you have seen my previous video (check it out here th-cam.com/video/rrWcsNuvMOM/w-d-xo.html ), I was running 13kW with the BAC4K, you can tell it's a lot to play with already.
And it's definitely at least 14kW capable, it has 430 amps per phase if my memory is correct.
@@MTO_Brothers thanks for your advice. I can get the BAC8000 for 100€ more. I'm not sure if this controller is more efficient or handles the heat better.
I also think that the power of the 4000 is more than enough for the SurRon.
@@tornadogti959 Yeah it's supposed to be more efficient. Don't know if the difference can really be felt on the field. As for the heat, that's bullshit IMHO as in any case, the motor overheats wayyyyy before the controller.
If you are enjoying the stock sur ron and want that extra kick the 4000 will change the bike in a big way.
Incredible ! What is the limite of the power? I mean 13kw...what else ?
Here's it's 15kW, some have pushed it up to 25kW. 20kW is doable but that's just for really quick bursts.
I wouldn't go much more than 15kW as it's a lot already for such a small bike. Power without control is useless!
It's crazy! I have a Honda CRF 450 RL dual sport that's way faster. I'll keep my Trek Top Fuel for actual pedaling.
@@billyray7067 Yeah, and my car is way faster than your Honda, also it's 1.8 ton and won't go anywhere you go with your dual sport.
Same goes for your Honda vs the Surron. The Honda is 130kg mate, you can't compare the two of them as the Surron weights 50kg and will go anywhere your MTB goes while you'll be having a hard time with your heavy CRF.
Also the CRF has about 4,6kW/kg while the SR has 3.3. A tad less powerfull but so much more manoeuvrable.
If you enjoy pedalling, that's cool for you, everyone has different tastes (petrol bikes, electric bikes, e-mtb, hiking, horse riding…).
@@MTO_Brothers your bike is very fast. Nobody could disagree with that. Your car and my crf cannot go on dedicated mtb trails. How much faster are these things going to get before getting banned?
Nice motorbike
What battery did you use for your Surron X?
MTO batteries, always haha. This one was a 72V40Ah
When Will you try supermot tyres ?? 🔥
I really need to. I got some mixed ones that are ready to be tried on the road. I definitely need a set of 17" wheels!
@@MTO_Brothers Okay, I'm impatient🔥🤘
Hello, impressionnant, top le pilotage, je suis également à 2 doigts de basculer, tu peux nous donner le budget des différentes modifs à savoir, prix du contrôleur, batterie…
Merci and keep going!!!!
Ah oui, le doute pour moi subsiste au niveau de la taille de la machine, je mesure 1m94 et je serai probablement limité par cette petite contrainte, lol
@@madiembasylla3337 Hello :) Je fais 1,84 et j'ai dû faire pas mal de modifs pour qu'elle soit vraiment agréable pour moi (rehausse suspension, guidon, potence + roue avant 21").
J'ai un pote qui a passé le cap et s'en est aussi acheté une en plus de son enduro.
Il fait + où - ta taille et a fait les mêmes modifs que moi plus rehausse de la selle (que je n'ai pas eu besoin de faire), je sais qu'il en est plutôt content.
Après, clairement, ce n'est pas une moto faite pour les grandes personnes !!
c'est un budget de 7000 au total (avec le prix de la bécane)
The biggest problem with SurRon is lack of battery capacity , 4500Wh should be an option but they need to ReDesign their frame
Yes, that would be cool. Give it a couple of years, we'll be there for sure.
Wht Form Controller or battery
Best thing about ebikes you don't have to shift not to mention all the fluids
That’s a huge advantage. Also (regarding your other comment about price) the electric engine cut the maintenance cost by 10-fold
I remember thinking when I was a kid driving those little race cars around the track I wish they could make these and now they are making them bikes and cars and trucks but they are way too expensive they should bring down the price....
Salut serait-il possible d’avoir la taille de ton pneu arrière en 18 et la ref pour savoir ou la tu trouver ? 😊
Hello, il s'agit d'un CST, on le vend ici
mto.bike/fr/product/pneu-arriere-18-pouces-off-road/
Looks like good fun, am a green laner myself and at the risk of sounding like Captain sensible I think you should ride with a bit more consideration for what's around the corner, at the point that someone is killed or run over we'll all be getting banned, Lets be in it for the long term everyone. For people looking for a great place to go, Morvon valley France near Dijon, vast areas of empty woods.
You're absolutely right man. But don't worry, I'm more cautious that you might think.
I'm constantly crossing hikers, mountain bikers, horse riders and other motos. I always see them soon enough to slow down, greet them and occasionally stop for a chat. The forest ain't mine, I know that, so we need to all respect each other for a peaceful cohabitation and for others to respect us and not become haters.
@@MTO_Brothers Spot on mate, is not always easy is it but sparing a thought for others makes for a much more harmonious world. As we know there are a few killjoys out there so is also a case of not giving them the ammunition to shoot us down. Ideally the forest tracks could be more specific, where motorcycles aren't welcome could actually be opened up at certain times of the year , better still a amnesty day, motor cyclist and horse riders meet up and swap steeds, that would be fun, we might actually meet some girls that way! Anyway , love the video, that is some fantastic footage and beautiful countryside, is interesting as well isnt it that it is so beautiful and yet hardly anyone there to enjoy it, good on you, is the joy of getting out there.
Salut, c'est dingue que l'on arrive à tirer 15 Kw du moteur d'origine alors qu'il est donné à 2 Kw en nominal et 5 en max. Comment c'est possible et surtout est-ce que c'est fiable, il y a bien un moment ou le moteur va cramer?
Salut ! D'origine c'est 5kW en puissance continue. Comme je l'explique en fin de vidéo, un moteur électrique a la puissance qu'on lui envoie. Évidemment à un moment il crame. Mais il supporte les 15kW pour de courts instants (en off-road, impossible à maintenir de toute façon).
Il faut faire attention aux températures, mais jusqu'à là RAS. Après si tu maintiens 10min a fond sur la route, tu peux lui dire à dieu.
@@MTO_Brothers bonjour et merci pour cette réponse très complète, je comprend mieux maintenant, c'était les 5Kw max et 2 en nominale annoncés constructeur qui m'interpelaient mais comme la valeur max est aussi liée à un temps, il faut bien mettre une valeur dans les spécification à défaut des mettre les courbe de puissance / température. J'ai un 400 EXC et un VTT enduro mais dans le sud j'en ai marre de passer pour un délinquant à chaque fois que sort la bécane en ballade... A+
i need help [ want to build one and have no idea where to start
Depends on what you're looking for. Battery and controller are what's specific to this bike, brakes, suspensions etc, are all MTB parts.
i guy, i have a question for you: how much does your eletric bike, cost? i big hug from rome, italy
At this point it's around 10k comprising the bike's initial price plus upgrades.
ich bekomm den Mund vor lauter staunen nicht mehr zu! Wow
Hello wht so you so fort 15 kwn.please.
How much did the promotion cost you? I hope it's $500 and the most important thing is that she climbs mountains after this loss 🙃
past 8pm and still day light?
Yep, it’s daylight till 10pm in the summer here
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Bonjour,22
Tu arrives maintenant a combien d autonomie
Km et temps
Merci pour ta reponse et bonne journée
Salut ! Avec cette petite batterie je roule 2/3h selon la difficulté/vitesse et 30/35km avec une moyenne de 1500m de dénivelé.
@@MTO_Brothers Merci pour ta reponse et tes videos
Bonne journée
Jef
T’es allé où pour la préparer ?
Je l'ai fait moi-même, il n'y a rien de très complexe. Tu peux le faire faire également. Tu habites dans quelle région ?
Only the jealous people disliked this video.
For sur 😂😂
Slt Quentin, y'a moyen de te joindre pour des infos sur le surron ?
Merci
Salut Gégé. Oui sur Insta @mtobrothers 😉
@@MTO_Brothers Merci
Salut sa t'es revenu a combien en tout pour cette machine ?
Ça chiffre vite. Environ 10k€ si on déduit les pièces d'origines revendues.
how many hrs or km from a full charge? whole day worth of riding from one charge?
Ufortunately, not with this small battery. We ride around 2 hours.
@@MTO_Brothers anyway of getting more range from a bigger battery??
@@N55666 Definitely, working on doubling that.
2 hours is great ! 2 hours full charge/ full throtlle? I looking for an électrique bike reach 40km at 70/80 km/h... 😁
@@davidm3832 Full throttle is very relative when riding in enduro. The average speed hardly goes beyond 30km/h…
But with proper gearing, that should be doable I guess.
Whats the range on this thing? This is the future....
I've made a video on the stock bike's range. It's around 2 to 3 hrs or 30km of off road. We're coming up with improved batteries that will last twice as that, while offering a lot of power 😎
@@MTO_Brothers I see, what about after the upgrade? Where can I read more about these new batteries? Thats really gonna change everything, nothing will be able to compete with EV cars or dirtbikes!
@@swedish_sadhguru3854 Some aftermarket batteries already exist, but I'm working on really challenging this with a way better solution. Subscribe to the channel and you'll be notified when I release them (coming really soon now!)
@@MTO_Brothers Alright thanks! :D
quelle batterie/controlleur?
Contrôleur Nucular 24F and custom built battery made out of Samsung 30Q cells.
Good the dualtron and others are stopped by this duron...
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They are awesome but they cost too much money I cut the front fender of my bike so I can see my tire when I want I don't race
Bonjour combien d'autonomie a cette machine svp
Environ 2h de ride.
You can easily go 20kW, with your weight the motor wont ever overheat.
hahaha, true that! Also at 20kw I'd be literally flying ✈️
Isnt stock power 6kw? So 15kw would be a 250% power increase
On the newer ones yes, back in 2020 they were 5kW.
Le moteur d’origine ne chauffe pas ?
Si si il chauffe, mais ça reste sous contrôle, ça n'a pas dépassé les 80C pendant ce ride à 35C ambiant. Après si tu forces trop pendant longtemps (genre tu remontes 2000 de d+ en station d'un coup), ça restera à surveiller.
Name bike please
I don't know for me why not just get a crosser, it looks like one, performs like one, but sounds like skyelectric
Hold the weight, instant torque, really low maintenance. It's really different. You gotta try it for yourself I guess!
@@MTO_Brothers I'm actually paralysed...ironically through a motorbike accident lol so don't take my advice...if you want to add a 15 000 watt mechanism on my chair it's a project we can undertake together 😄
@@edwardmolloy708 hey man im really sorry to hear that. At least I’m glad that your sense of humour looks intact 👌
I want a sur ron where can I buy it
Depends on where you live. There are stores all over Europe
@@MTO_Brothers I am from India
@@nidesonmandengbam9098 Then I have no idea man. Internet doesn't say a thing about resellers?
Sold out in the UK :-(
Order one and be patient! They have a hard time providing for the demand in Europe
Is it like 15,000 dollars?
More like 10k.
Howwwwww did you make this happen?!?!?
I want the tuneeee!
That’s by using a custom controller and battery
Salut dis moi tas batterie tu l'as eu ou stp?
C'est homemade, je suis en train de développer un modèle de série.
@@MTO_Brothers je suis preneur si jamais...donc n hésites pas à me contacter quand tu sors ça..ou ici ou sur insta ou Facebook en mp merci à toi✊👌
Moi j’ai mis le nucular 24F sur un quad 350 warrior😂😂😂
énorme ! et ça marche bien ?
@@MTO_Brothers carrément bien..
@@Moi70667 😀
@@MTO_Brothers mon moteur est un qs138.avec le nuculars je ne sort que 13kW car ma batteries diy est a base d’accu samsung 30Q..
Mais sinon je pourrais être à 25 kW..