This actually happened to me. I work in the environmental field and have multiple certifications that are wide apart from the normal, and I speak 2 languages. From the job description, I knew it would be tough for the company to fill the role, but I fit the job description perfectly and had all the certifications, education, and experience. The interview went swimmingly; at the end, the two interviewers were my new BFFs! Then we talked about pay. They asked what I expected. I said boldly $6X... They looked around and said well, this position pays $4x. I reminded them that the skill set they are asking for is normally not filled by a single person but normally a team in our field. So they could hire me that fits the bill, or hire 3-4 people that have each Cert. and/or experience at 2-4 times the cost. I then left the interview. I got a call before I even got home. We then negotiated about a company car (because I cover a big area) and cell/laptop. In the end, I got everything I wanted.
@@christopherjoyce9788 Speaking of honesty. Companies want high qualfied staff for the price of an uneducated temp. People don't invest time and money to get qualified for nothing.
@@christopherjoyce9788 Thinking the same thing. She sounds like a narcissist, I dont care if shes worth 200k. "you have 48 hours i know my worth" is that why you're unemployed?
@@christopherjoyce9788 The character is not a recent graduate, that's why she's worth 95K on the labor market and should be negotiating for her real worth. Let's be honest and face the fact that corporations are amoral and profit is their only real concern, not their employees, so the employees need to know how to watch out for themselves. Oh, and here's another thing I'd like to ask for honesty on... if the candidate in the sketch were male, would you be having this same reaction? Because my husband has been negotiating his salary upwards for 20 years as his experience and skills have grown and now our combined income is in the top 5%. He doesn't get criticized for this, he gets praise and respect. If the character was a "Vernon" instead of "Veronica," would you have more respect, Christopher? Would you have equated this whole thing to "new graduates," or would you have actually listened to the dialog? Be honest.
And the company are still dealing with the second-rate low-effort quality of work they receive from that lower paid and over-worked employee who verges on burnout all the time.
"Grateful"? Is the company grateful to have a highly qualified person willing to join the staff? 🙄. Employees are always better off declining lowball offers if they are in a position to do so.
She needs to bust out the 4 square and talk about financing options if the company wants to buy all the qualifications but can't quite afford it pay it all up front
It's a hard sell. Last time I wanted my qualifications represented fairly in my wage, they didn't hire me, but the one they took left the company pretty fast. In the next interview (different company), I wanted less than my actual worth and they declined because "if you sell yourself short, then you will do the same with us". And yes, I did my homework and researched both companies. Fact is, worth is subjective. Everyones financial and emotional investment in their education was different. Even hard facts concerning the price of education will be viewed differently by people. There is no golden rule that works every time. There are only your principles, luck and that you sit across the right person, at the right time. We have less control over everything than we thought we do. My career got pretty much killed during Covid. I'm struggling.
I can kind of relate. the worst manager I've ever had, had the audacity to do many things that are unethical and wrong. she said it in front of staff how she wanted to change my pay structure. and with that, when things went wrong, not if, when s*** hit the ceiling and I wasn't on the clock, or if I was and not in that "position" I was not helping, and I never did. you treat me that way, you get what you pay for. when the building was struck by lightning and it messed up one of the movie projectors, I was off the clock, someone called me and I didn't answer. not my problem at that point.
Been in this position and just said no thank you. And when they decided to make an acceptable offer…I already had another job. Corporations DO NOT CARE about you. Know your worth and do what is best for you
@@BusArch42 When there are many companies looking for someone like you, you can threaten them to reject and work for their rivals. But the situation is the opposite, a few companies and too many people looking for jobs.
@@ElInventor agreed. I am a scarce resource and I am aware of it. My work is petrified of my leaving at this point. I’m almost tempted to see how far I could push things. My spouse is retiring next spring and his functional level is so high his boss isn’t even trying to replace him. They politely asked him to try to figure out how to distribute his responsibilities to prevent chaos when he’s gone. They don’t bother telling us what to do anymore. That stopped ages ago. It’s more of a, hey that’s a really bad mess over there. Would you be interested in cleaning it up? We are crazy well paid though to be honest. It still blows me away.
"That's fine, we'll find someone else... Thank you for your time" Veronica, there's a shit load of people with those qualification... and more... and are willing to work for a little less.
Clever tactic. "Let me know what qualifications you want me to exclude."
Clever but still unemployed
@@christopherjoyce9788 but at least not mistreated.
This actually happened to me. I work in the environmental field and have multiple certifications that are wide apart from the normal, and I speak 2 languages.
From the job description, I knew it would be tough for the company to fill the role, but I fit the job description perfectly and had all the certifications, education, and experience.
The interview went swimmingly; at the end, the two interviewers were my new BFFs!
Then we talked about pay. They asked what I expected. I said boldly $6X... They looked around and said well, this position pays $4x.
I reminded them that the skill set they are asking for is normally not filled by a single person but normally a team in our field. So they could hire me that fits the bill, or hire 3-4 people that have each Cert. and/or experience at 2-4 times the cost. I then left the interview.
I got a call before I even got home. We then negotiated about a company car (because I cover a big area) and cell/laptop. In the end, I got everything I wanted.
Congratulations!🎉 So happy for you!
Hey is there a way we can chat? I’m looking to get into the environmental field but currently have no experience.
She handled herself like she had subscription packages 🤣🤣
That's someone who is quite confident about her qualifications.
No that's delusion and why so many new graduates are unemployed. Let's be honest
@@christopherjoyce9788 Speaking of honesty. Companies want high qualfied staff for the price of an uneducated temp. People don't invest time and money to get qualified for nothing.
@@christopherjoyce9788 Thinking the same thing.
She sounds like a narcissist, I dont care if shes worth 200k. "you have 48 hours i know my worth" is that why you're unemployed?
@@Blundabus1337 She sounds like someone who'll be making 95K sooner or later.
@@christopherjoyce9788 The character is not a recent graduate, that's why she's worth 95K on the labor market and should be negotiating for her real worth. Let's be honest and face the fact that corporations are amoral and profit is their only real concern, not their employees, so the employees need to know how to watch out for themselves. Oh, and here's another thing I'd like to ask for honesty on... if the candidate in the sketch were male, would you be having this same reaction? Because my husband has been negotiating his salary upwards for 20 years as his experience and skills have grown and now our combined income is in the top 5%. He doesn't get criticized for this, he gets praise and respect. If the character was a "Vernon" instead of "Veronica," would you have more respect, Christopher? Would you have equated this whole thing to "new graduates," or would you have actually listened to the dialog? Be honest.
Spot on!! Know your WORTH & be willing to walk away!!
She didn’t get the job. It went to someone else with the qualifications but willing to work at a lower wage.
And the company are still dealing with the second-rate low-effort quality of work they receive from that lower paid and over-worked employee who verges on burnout all the time.
Or a grateful person that's happy to be employed. The baloney you talk about only witks in a employee market. @ESAPOWER
@wlonsdale1 sure But then we should not be surprised if anything changes. You accept mistreatment as a fact of life, even though you shouldn't
"Grateful"? Is the company grateful to have a highly qualified person willing to join the staff? 🙄. Employees are always better off declining lowball offers if they are in a position to do so.
Most likely it went to someone who lied about their qualifications.
She needs to bust out the 4 square and talk about financing options if the company wants to buy all the qualifications but can't quite afford it pay it all up front
LMAO
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It's a hard sell. Last time I wanted my qualifications represented fairly in my wage, they didn't hire me, but the one they took left the company pretty fast.
In the next interview (different company), I wanted less than my actual worth and they declined because "if you sell yourself short, then you will do the same with us".
And yes, I did my homework and researched both companies. Fact is, worth is subjective. Everyones financial and emotional investment in their education was different. Even hard facts concerning the price of education will be viewed differently by people.
There is no golden rule that works every time. There are only your principles, luck and that you sit across the right person, at the right time.
We have less control over everything than we thought we do. My career got pretty much killed during Covid. I'm struggling.
I am so sorry to hear that. Wishing you the best on your journey. Stick to your principles.
She has all the receipts too in case the company try some bullshit. Lawyer up!
I can kind of relate. the worst manager I've ever had, had the audacity to do many things that are unethical and wrong. she said it in front of staff how she wanted to change my pay structure. and with that, when things went wrong, not if, when s*** hit the ceiling and I wasn't on the clock, or if I was and not in that "position" I was not helping, and I never did. you treat me that way, you get what you pay for. when the building was struck by lightning and it messed up one of the movie projectors, I was off the clock, someone called me and I didn't answer. not my problem at that point.
“Pay what I’m worth or GTFO!”
Been in this position and just said no thank you. And when they decided to make an acceptable offer…I already had another job. Corporations DO NOT CARE about you. Know your worth and do what is best for you
This only works when there's enough employment. But there is not.
Not in my field.
@@BusArch42 When there are many companies looking for someone like you, you can threaten them to reject and work for their rivals. But the situation is the opposite, a few companies and too many people looking for jobs.
@@ElInventor agreed. I am a scarce resource and I am aware of it. My work is petrified of my leaving at this point. I’m almost tempted to see how far I could push things. My spouse is retiring next spring and his functional level is so high his boss isn’t even trying to replace him. They politely asked him to try to figure out how to distribute his responsibilities to prevent chaos when he’s gone. They don’t bother telling us what to do anymore. That stopped ages ago. It’s more of a, hey that’s a really bad mess over there. Would you be interested in cleaning it up? We are crazy well paid though to be honest. It still blows me away.
Yeah, they call bullshit when we want to turn those micro transactions around.
Good bargaining
There are soooo many of these channels with the same “Veronica” content. This is ridiculous!
In reality you’re not that confident in front of the interviewer.
The last time I interviewed I was. I had a job I liked and they were trying to lure me away. I did take it but I played hard ball with salary
95k? "I know my worth"?
That business dodged a bullet in that narcissist.
Knowing appropriate compensation for the position is not narcissism.
Disagree. Many times women are perceived negatively when they are honest about their value. I see this all the time.
@@cdr-sailor I kind of doubt this woman deserves a almost six figure salary.
Jeff Bezos makes $11,500,000/hour and his business model is selling things out of a warehouse.
Veronica is _easliy_ worth $95,000/year.
@@Vohlfied Jeff and Veronica can both be worth less than what they ask for.
You say shes worth that much, why?
Theres other companies willing to pay me what im worth, however im still going to interviews. Typical american style
All of this is good in a video, but, in real life, unfortunately, they will find a candidate willing to accept the going pay rate.
It’s true. . They never increase pay just get another one for low pay
And they will be back to V in six months when they discover the cheaper candidate is not as good
"That's fine, we'll find someone else... Thank you for your time" Veronica, there's a shit load of people with those qualification... and more... and are willing to work for a little less.
In your dreams, Skippy!
@@BobSmith-mc7uqyou must be a z'er.
Yeah? Why is the position still open.
AI works cheap, if that makes sense
Probably could replace the manager with it.
@@drl5002someday.