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  • @ericbreault4270
    @ericbreault4270 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +362

    Unrealistic. In reality, this meeting would never happen, you'd be lucky to even get an email.

    • @M-iy4tf
      @M-iy4tf 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Depends on if you belong to a union or not. What your union contract is. I’ve been on both sides, this is not an endorsement of unions or argument against them. Both situations have their good and bad points.

    • @pariahlord3540
      @pariahlord3540 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This woman's whole shtick is based in non-reality. This is low level power fantasy for desk jockeys that are overpaid for what they do to begin with.
      Why am I here if I don't like her """"content"""" you may ask? Good question, I put this channel on the do not recommend list but once you click on one of these slops it follows you to the grave

    • @Eluderatnight
      @Eluderatnight 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      What usually happens is they quietly lay off people. Managers then come around and start requesting more work out of the remaining employees.
      My suggestion: always have 4 recruiters on speed dial.

    • @ericbreault4270
      @ericbreault4270 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Eluderatnightexactly

    • @gusmonster59
      @gusmonster59 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@pariahlord3540 Funny , though, how this has actually happened to a lot of people. I came back from vacation, there was a meeting to tell us all of our hours were being cut, but we were still required to do ALL of our respective jobs. Things like this are not fantasy, they happen all the time.

  • @rockstar-kp2jy
    @rockstar-kp2jy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +118

    Not real, the girl asking this would have been fired lol

    • @msbealo
      @msbealo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not necessarily. Oh.. it depends which country you're in.

    • @rockstar-kp2jy
      @rockstar-kp2jy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@msbealo if your doing lay offs I would be surprised any other country to keep her.

    • @plaguedoctor917
      @plaguedoctor917 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Oh absolutely not. This girl would have a very clear cut lawsuit against the company so firing her outright wouldnt happen

    • @rockstar-kp2jy
      @rockstar-kp2jy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@plaguedoctor917 if they are laying a bunch of people off, and your a pain in the ass. Your getting laid off

    • @nathandarosa6956
      @nathandarosa6956 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Everyone else would have gotten an email

  • @moosehand8721
    @moosehand8721 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +108

    Quiet quitting will double starting tomorrow

    • @technobabble77
      @technobabble77 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Quiet quitting sounds like a good idea, but in reality it'll only hurt you and your career. Find something you enjoy doing and then figure out how to make money doing it.

    • @peterpain6625
      @peterpain6625 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@technobabble77 It doesn't if you do it right. Start having interviews for other jobs immediately and do the bare minimum.

    • @matheusdiefenthaeler5342
      @matheusdiefenthaeler5342 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@technobabble77doesn't work, when you mix hobby, for example, with stressful elements of business, you'll start to hate it...

  • @spacespector
    @spacespector 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Also the CEO is getting a 50 million dollar bonus.

  • @JoeDeCarlo-km9nf
    @JoeDeCarlo-km9nf 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    As soon as it gets busy, the managers always have something to do

  • @stevebotham2018
    @stevebotham2018 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    That is when the remaining staff all email their resignations to HR

    • @THE-id1by
      @THE-id1by 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That is dumb, just continue to do "your" job. If it all goes to hell in a handbasket--so be it. Polish up the resume. Use all your PTO. Leave on your terms. If they fire you, they will have to pay unemployment. This is not about your feelings, this is about your money

    • @stevebotham2018
      @stevebotham2018 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@THE-id1by You might think it's dumb but I've seen it happen. Company I worked for was terrible for the way they treated employees. Before xmas one year they fired a bunch of people then decided since Dec 23rd was a pay day not to pay the employees. To their shock the owners came in on the 24th to find a stack of resignations from the entire staff. Fortunately enough for me I left that company a year earlier. I helped as many of my former co workers get jobs as I could. But sometimes it is better to get out before it all burns down around you. You don't want to be the ones to show up to work & the place is locked up & a notice is on the door. It's better to go out on your terms. When it is 1 person quits then an employer can simply tell anyone calling in reference to hiring that person they were a bad employee but when 90 people walk out all at once it speaks volumes about the employer. Oh I was a manager there I got out because I saw the writing on the wall & got most of my former staff jobs at other companies I had connections with so they wouldn't be there when it all went titts up.
      People I knew in other departments I gave leads to & referrals to when they all walked out.

    • @embrown1442000
      @embrown1442000 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's about being dumped on for the CEO's profit margin. Those golden parachutes don't build themselves.

    • @seditiouswalrus
      @seditiouswalrus 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol 😂 suuuuure that happens

    • @stevebotham2018
      @stevebotham2018 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@seditiouswalrus I've seen it happen when owner goes off the rails screwing their employees. The owner of that company learned don't piss in peoples corn flakes the day before xmas.

  • @MrPatchPlays
    @MrPatchPlays 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Why does it feel like CEOs have all seen the same dystopian future movie and thought "what a perfect utopia"?

    • @iamsofaking6728
      @iamsofaking6728 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They all are perfect utopias. For them. Existing on the backs of everyone else.

  • @ChristophBrinkmann
    @ChristophBrinkmann 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Then they wonder why "NoBoDy WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe"

    • @aubriellemorgan
      @aubriellemorgan วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly. When covid happened and people got to work from home or were locked down, they had time to think and take a step back. People realized life is too short for this crap. And I say good! Figure out whats best for you and your family and do that. Nothing anyone else says matters. I wish everyone the best. Its hard but we can do it. Just need a plan.

  • @nat0106951
    @nat0106951 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    dont forget that this toxic managers are also just employees with upper management bosses that they just also follow

    • @Cherryblossoms110
      @Cherryblossoms110 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ok and? Do better

    • @user-eu7io9mw6r
      @user-eu7io9mw6r 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Cherryblossoms110she works for the company, not you, grow up and start your own company or stop expecting someone who is trying to live their dream care about yours

    • @dissident1337
      @dissident1337 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@user-eu7io9mw6rfound the C suite

    • @aubriellemorgan
      @aubriellemorgan วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-eu7io9mw6r nasty angry response…maybe go for a walk or something.

  • @user-le4go6il7n
    @user-le4go6il7n 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Management is where they put the least competent employees

  • @slc1161
    @slc1161 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    My hospital chain keeps cutting support staff and dumping their duties on the nurses who are trying to do patient care, then expecting the nursing staff to be more responsive to the patients. Then giving extra pay during Covid to every department except nursing. Guess what they got…..pizza. And several died from Covid because they were worked like crazy. Then administration scratches their head and are trying to figure out why there’s a 60% staff turnover and they can’t get nurses to accept a job with them. Thank God I became disabled right before Covid. I was already doing three people’s jobs because they didn’t want to spend the money. It worsened my health so I got out. And so glad I had paid for long term disability insurance.

    • @mk84ldb
      @mk84ldb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ah, the old pizza trick. Did they put on extra pepperoni?

  • @AndragonLea
    @AndragonLea 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Companies do this all the time and then wonder why people engage in acting their wage or, as management likes to call it, "quiet quitting". If you lay people off to save money, that better be because the department is under-utilized or I'm following right along with them to get a position somewhere that isn't overburdening me with work at no additional pay so the managers can justify their yearly bonus.

  • @flyingspirit3549
    @flyingspirit3549 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    When the manager indicated she was taking "PTO" (Personal Time Off?), I immediately wondered if this meant that, in fact, she had some job interviews since she realizes that the ship is sinking.

    • @TFD31415
      @TFD31415 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      PTO = paid time off (ie vacation)

    • @shon7648
      @shon7648 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yup!!!!

  • @brianbloch3992
    @brianbloch3992 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I always like how employees think that management actually cares. Hint, they don't

  • @OstblockLatina
    @OstblockLatina 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Oh yeah the CEO's just rented a VIP-lodge in the stadium and bought a membership in a casino and his son's getting a G-wagon for his 16.

  • @roronoabear
    @roronoabear 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    In this situation, do your bare minimum and your full hours. NO MORE!!!

  • @jpmonk8844
    @jpmonk8844 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    This has been the strategy for corporate restaurants for years. That's why it's struggling now.

  • @novaste1238
    @novaste1238 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Disgustingly familiar. The whole "well your contract does state" may as well be "remember, you signed your life away because when we draw up contracts we make sure to trap our employees". My heart goes out to everyone having no choice but to remain in a toxic environment.

  • @blendpinexus1416
    @blendpinexus1416 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    me: "just throw them on the list of things to get done and i'll get them done when i get to them during my hours, no i'm not doing any unpaid overtime, leave my office or i'll lose track of three hours of work." worked everytime and they kept me till i quit.

  • @WinstonSmithGPT
    @WinstonSmithGPT 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Good news Veronica, you won’t have to worry about additional duties.

    • @cpK054L
      @cpK054L 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Your fired too, Veronica.

    • @Sonnabend00
      @Sonnabend00 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@cpK054L My pleasure. ive had four other jobs make me an offer with better hours and better pay already. YTou were already short staffed.. Now you are VERY short staffed...

  • @lesleygreen273
    @lesleygreen273 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    So this is the time to get CV updated and look for another job. Often, when this sort of thing happens, managers are really surprised that half the staff left get new jobs within 6 months.

  • @dave3657
    @dave3657 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    LOL, where I worked they fired a secretary, months later the supply drawers were empty and invoices were not sent out. The manager never had this meeting and half the employees was unaware the person had been let go.

  • @SilentWarrior88
    @SilentWarrior88 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    It was the “my door MAY be open this afternoon” that got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

  • @BooDotBoo
    @BooDotBoo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Yeah, I'm doing the duties I'm paid to do. If you lay off people, that's on you to figure out how that extra work will get done.

  • @marthavillanueva5505
    @marthavillanueva5505 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    "No additional compensation" = screwed.

  • @Nenezilla
    @Nenezilla 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Literally just had this happen to us. I'm in healthcare.

  • @alpha5664
    @alpha5664 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    In reality if you talk that way to your manager you would be fired.

    • @claireconolly8355
      @claireconolly8355 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Absolutely that's why in this situation people very quickly look for othe work and quit instead. Then the managers need to start rehiring..

    • @bigdogsportingtonyb2833
      @bigdogsportingtonyb2833 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Not really. Only wimps think that way. Smart people will see the leverage. They let six go and plan on dumping the work on the ones left. I'm sure they didn't let any good employees go so this is the time to stand up and demand better or leave. Employers treat people this way because people accept this type of treatment

    • @aubriellemorgan
      @aubriellemorgan วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Depends on where you work.

  • @map3384
    @map3384 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    When I was a young guy (20) in the mid 80s a distribution company I worked for did this to us. Increased our labor 30%. No extra salary. I was making $5 an hour. I had no financial obligations so I instantly quit and walked out.

    • @boristheamerican2938
      @boristheamerican2938 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Bold move at that time, unemployment was high during Reagan time.

    • @Ragnar452
      @Ragnar452 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@boristheamerican2938 If you are single, you have no credit, no mortgage, etc, it's easier than you imagine. You can find another job. Nobody owns you. That is the beauty of it.

  • @chrishuber3372
    @chrishuber3372 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    In the real world, this of course would be following the fact that several employees were let go last year, with their duties being divided among the remaining employees, who never got compensated for those extra duties then. And now are being asked to take on the extra duties again this year with no extra compensation. And those employees can expect to do the same next year when a few other employees are let go and their duties are again divided among the remaining without compensation.
    Until there is just one employee doing everything for no extra compensation.

    • @andrewlm5677
      @andrewlm5677 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pay raises and promotions are given to high performers who take on responsibility. People leaving is as much an opportunity as it is a burden. I’ve seen a lot of people leave who’s 40 hr a week job could be replaced with very little time and effort by a smarter and more efficient person - this is who you want to be
      This video promotes a bad attitude which gives the impression that a job isn’t of mutual benefit to both employer and employee. Nothing teaches you to value a good job like a serious threat of losing yours.

  • @irzyxelwj
    @irzyxelwj 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Companies have been doing this for an insanely long time. People put their job on a pedestal above their own lives and dignity.
    Now you have more options.

  • @Kodikat2
    @Kodikat2 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    This happened at my brother's office.He was a smart one that volunteered to be laid off first

    • @silvercow7
      @silvercow7 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This happened at my old job. Being single and childless, I took one for the team and resigned, hoping that it'd spare at least one of my other coworkers with a family. No. They got cut one after the other after in a span of 5 months. Our once 10-member team has 3 people in it left.
      Half our responsibilities got moved to another team and surprise, that team started hiring to handle what we worked on. 2 of my old team that got redundiated got rehired. Everyone else is doing okay. They are still hiring for the positions we filled. Those seats were empty for half a year.

    • @4KindnessGal
      @4KindnessGal 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don’t blame him. But he should have stayed, if he could, and started looking for better opportunities.
      But Bailing, because responsibilities are being added, will not look good if the new employers check.

  • @brenthill3241
    @brenthill3241 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The next day, just let the answering machine take care of things, then date the pretty girl at the restaurant next door and invite her in to watch Kung fu movies.

  • @aubriellemorgan
    @aubriellemorgan วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    These companies don’t care that they are setting themselves up for high turnover and a bad reputation. Oh well.

    • @over9000lord
      @over9000lord วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Who cares, they can get away with anything

  • @clare2002
    @clare2002 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This shit happens everyday and HR does nothing then they go on PTO

  • @Jason-mp6yj
    @Jason-mp6yj 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    In my company the Veronicas are the first to get fired

    • @tubeyou6794
      @tubeyou6794 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Noone should hire a veronica

    • @ShadowXardas
      @ShadowXardas 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      In my experience the way to go is to keep your mouth shut and start applying elsewhere while quiet quitting the current spot. This kind of thing is why it is way better to job hop every 2-3 years these days

    • @tubeyou6794
      @tubeyou6794 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ShadowXardas if you are treated wrong - leave.

    • @peterpain6625
      @peterpain6625 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They did that in a company i worked for a decade ago. I took the whole it-support team with me. They lost a couple hundred thousand euros in external support costs. Most of it to the company we went to ;) Still working there. Old company is still paying us through the nose after trying to reestablish their own it-support team under the same c*nt of a manager twice...

  • @davidholmes2283
    @davidholmes2283 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    This happens a lot. I must have experienced this about 4 times in my career. Now retired thank God.

  • @1anastudent
    @1anastudent 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Oh, but the real problem is younger people are lazy and just don't want to work anymore. Note the sarcasm

    • @OstblockLatina
      @OstblockLatina 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They sure look busy waiting for foreigners to take care of their aging parents, clean up their mess and grow the food they eat while they sip their allowance-paid soy latte in the park on a break from another protest.

    • @MsJoyce31202
      @MsJoyce31202 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sarcasm noted. 😊

  • @jackel54130
    @jackel54130 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    We're going to cut it here because I am BSing all of you and I can't handle being exposed anymore.

  • @nycrawgirl
    @nycrawgirl 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Unfortunately this isn’t a toxic manager, this is just life.

    • @lololnope34567
      @lololnope34567 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Corporate life certainly

    • @dt05
      @dt05 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah, not so much management as it is corporate/executive level decisions that unfortunately 1st line managers are forced to share and deal with.

    • @dissident1337
      @dissident1337 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Just because this is every manager doesn't mean it's not toxic, it just means all our jobs are toxic.

    • @Spencer-wc6ew
      @Spencer-wc6ew 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's both

    • @aubriellemorgan
      @aubriellemorgan วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dissident1337 Exactly 😂

  • @spartanmerc1
    @spartanmerc1 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Increased responsibilities requires increased compensation. Never do work for free. Dont work off the clock. And balance your work life with time off (regularly scheduled days off, vacation, etc.)

  • @jk3mom
    @jk3mom 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Decades ago I worked for an administrator and my particular job ran on a quarterly cycle. 2 months out of the three I worked overtime Monday through Thursday. The remaining month I caught up on grunt work I ignored while busy.
    Quit 8 days before my first son was born but told them ahead of time I wasn't coming back.
    Trained my replacement for 3 months. She quit 2 months after I did because it was too much work for 1 person and the low salary.
    They ended up replacing her with 2 people.
    So for 8 years I was doing the job of 2 people and getting one salary.
    So glad people are getting smarter and not letting companies walk all over them.
    I'm a Boomer and we stayed with horrible employers because there were so many of us we knew we could be replaced in a few days.

  • @rsellers7090
    @rsellers7090 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    This happened to me years ago, but I did tell them It's going to take a lot longer to complete my job since I am doing more work, needless to say they didn't give me anything that was time sensitive, so it worked to my advantage that time and made my job less stressful.

    • @AT-ts1se
      @AT-ts1se 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yessir 😂

  • @willard39
    @willard39 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I get the point, but why bother with questions? Obviously this company is not doing well if they pull this stuff without compensating their staff for a known reduction in workforce. Start looking for a new job OR take advantage of the new paradigm and do the bare minimum.

    • @valeriephelps8017
      @valeriephelps8017 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Nah man, companies will do this after a record year in profits. Labor is the #1 recurring cost of a business. Having fewer people do the same amount of work is the quickest way to inflate those profits, and you inflate it even more if the remaining employees can be guilted into doing it without an increase in pay.

  • @sim81ma
    @sim81ma 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Why aren’t you tagging/ giving credit to the op/ creator? You know it’s Veronika, it’s not a secret.

  • @joeverna5459
    @joeverna5459 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Now that is classic trickle down economics.

  • @user-el8tn4wj9b
    @user-el8tn4wj9b 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Which is why you can phone a company and ask a question that no employee can answer

  • @MrDanielvass
    @MrDanielvass 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It likely wasn’t the manager’s decision, it’s just her that has to deliver the shitty news as ordered by the company owners.

  • @jonathanelmore6315
    @jonathanelmore6315 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    See the way you get through to them on that one is simple.... Wait until they get rid of everyone they want rid of.... Then all remaining employees quit the following day. No call no show no notice no nothing.... Sure they'll scramble to hire NEW people.... But in the meantime they will be loosing money like a leaky radiator and none of the new people know what to do and there is nobody to train them.... Therefore if not killing the business for sure bringing it down far enough to make them regret their previous actions 😂

    • @antred11
      @antred11 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That might do damage, but it's not going to teach them a damned thing. This type of people is simply incapable of learning. 😑

    • @Nick-o-time
      @Nick-o-time 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just unionize. You're describing a strike.

  • @AuntLoopy123
    @AuntLoopy123 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    "I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!"
    "What?"
    "Yeah, I volunteer to be one of the six who are laid off. I'll get a severance package, right?"
    "Well..."
    "Yeah, and since I refuse to work for a reduction in pay..."
    "No, you won't be getting less money."
    "Except, I will, because you'll give me more work, which will require more hours, but at the same amount of daily pay, means I'm being paid less per hour, while having to do more work, facing more stress, more burn-out, and more temptation to DO SOMETHING about it, all with LESS ACTUAL HOURLY PAY. So, no, I'm not going to do that. I will take the severance package and go."
    "But, you're our most competent employee. You do all your assigned work right the first time, never missing a deadline. You're NOT on the list of lay-offs."
    "Well, you'd better PUT ME ON THE LIST, because I refuse to take on more work for less pay. If you want to PAY ME WHAT I AM WORTH, I would consider staying, assuming that the added work is NOT overwhelming, and that I can still maintain a reasonable amount of life/work balance, as well as more PTO to help deal with the stress of the added workload."
    "Nobody is getting more PTO. In fact, anyone below a managerial level..."
    "Oh, you did not just start to say that you're taking away PTO. Well, it doesn't matter TO ME, because I'm being laid off, anyway."
    "No, you're not on the list for the lay-offs. You're an excellent worker. Your quality is top-notch, and we need you here. We need you to provide that same level of quality to the increased workload."
    "You keep talking, but you don't listen. Either lay me off, or fire me for not doing my work, because I REFUSE TO DO MORE WORK THAN I AM CURRENTLY HANDLING. Either way, I'll get unemployment, at least."
    "But, we don't want you to leave. We want you to stay, and handle the increased workload. at your current excellent standard of quality."
    "
    "But you don't want to PAY ME for handling the increased workload at the excellent standard of quality."
    "Well, yes."
    "You get what you pay for. If you don't lay me off, then I will either do EXACTLY the same amount of work I am doing right now, at my excellent standard of quality, OR, I will do the additional workload, but all in the same amount of time, meaning that I maintain my hourly pay, by doing more in less time."
    "That's great! That's what I want to hear."
    "But doing it in a hurry will inevitably lead to a downturn in quality."
    "No, see, we want to keep YOU, because of your high quality product."
    "But you refuse to PAY for the high quality product."
    "No, we're paying you to perform at the same level of quality you are, right now."
    "Except you're giving me more work, without more pay, so my only option is to lower the quality, in order to get it all done in the same amount of time, so as to maintain my hourly rate of pay."
    "Nononono. You are supposed to take on the extra work, with a smile, and do it, to the same quality. Just put in some extra hours, to show your loyalty to the company."
    "And what is the company doing to show their loyalty to me?"
    "We're keeping you on. You're not on the list for lay-offs."
    "I volunteer for a layoff."
    "But, we don't want to lay you off!"
    "And I don't want to work more for less pay."
    "But, your contract states that you WILL take on more work as requested and required."
    "My contract states that I CAN LEAVE, because I am NOT your slave and legal property."
    "Well..."
    "Uh huh."
    "But..."
    "Figure it out for yourself. Pay me my worth, or don't pay me at all. There is no Door #3."
    "OK, so, the six people ON THE LIST will be let go, and their workloads will be divided up amongst all the other workers, EXCEPT VERONICA."
    All the other workers: "Oh, hell no! That's EVEN MORE extra work for no more pay! I VOLUNTEER FOR TRIBUTE!" "No,! FIRE ME!" "I DEMAND TO BE LAID OFF FIRST!"

    • @mendingwall3823
      @mendingwall3823 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can't believe I read this entire thing. I have to memorize it for my job 😂

  • @geewiizi
    @geewiizi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Errrybod is leaving 😂

    • @Metalshark100
      @Metalshark100 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Happened at my prev job 😂 the company was small and the boss / employer couldn't hire all the necessary staff to do the proper jobs, like no HR staff, no staff to properly keep the policies up to date, so he relied on us. He paid us to do admin and we ended up doing everything else too, half the team left.

  • @rubewaddell1704
    @rubewaddell1704 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Additional duties as required should not be allowed. It is too open for abuse by the employer.

  • @trevorr68
    @trevorr68 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This is on the money, no pun intended.

  • @iamsofaking6728
    @iamsofaking6728 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Y’know what? Of those six employees being let go? I’m one of ‘em. Duces, lady ✌️

    • @BigChungus-zg6zw
      @BigChungus-zg6zw 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      lol no. Wait for them to fire the six people then leave AFTER that and try to get other people to leave with you.
      Extra points for organising to transition everyone directly to a competitor company.

    • @ca_kay
      @ca_kay 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@BigChungus-zg6zwYeah, that can result in a lawsuit, though.

    • @solosynapse
      @solosynapse 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ca_kayHow so? It's not illegal to quit a job.

    • @ca_kay
      @ca_kay 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@solosynapse It is a civil issue to convince a large number of staff to go to a competitor. It's not illegal per se in that it isn't a crime, but it is lawsuit worthy.

    • @BigChungus-zg6zw
      @BigChungus-zg6zw 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ca_kay Only if you breach the terms of an employment contract and most of those are virtually worthless.

  • @D.M.S.
    @D.M.S. 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Can I be amongst the layoffs, please?

  • @zuphirael4513
    @zuphirael4513 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Yep. Your co-worker called in tonight and we couldn't get anyone to cover for her so you'll be doing your 8-hours of work as well as her 8-hours, you won't receive any extra compensation nor will you be allowed to work over and claim any overtime. Have a great night. GO TEAM!!!

  • @ReneeOfTheFae
    @ReneeOfTheFae 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hey, Starbucks! This is exactly what you are doing, fyi. Just in case you didn't realize what your decisions are doing to those of us that your company depends on to keep it running.

  • @kyroonerleovine1763
    @kyroonerleovine1763 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    In California you can always say “Not when it is not part of the nature of my job”

    • @lisalee2885
      @lisalee2885 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm a property manager and my maintenance guy quit. I then started doing some of his duties. Picking up trash, fixing what I can etc...after 3 weeks in an email to my boss and HR I asked for additional pay or bonus until they find someone. She came back with "you are salary and I don't have the authority to give you a raise or bonus but I do appreciate you".

    • @lisalee2885
      @lisalee2885 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh and I should mention I now work 6-7 days a week even though I'm not doing 40 hours a week.

    • @kyroonerleovine1763
      @kyroonerleovine1763 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lisalee2885 then you say, "Unfortunately since we have not changed the nature of my job with reasonable compensation, I refuse to do janitorial work. Moving forward, all complaints regarding maintenance will be handled by you, since you have the authority to make changes in this regard."

  • @shavinmccrotch9435
    @shavinmccrotch9435 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    This is the crap GenZ is having none of. They’ll just quit and live in their van if they have to. God BLESS those GenZ bastards! 🥰

    • @aubriellemorgan
      @aubriellemorgan วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      💯💯💯 good for them bc life is too short to be a slave. Those days are over and I am happy that gen z care less about money and more about quality of life.

  • @sipinosapa
    @sipinosapa 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    A good manager ensures that the work load is manageable and not overbearing for its employees, at times boundaries must be pushed but always tries to ensure efficiency, productivity and manageable workloads
    An incompetent managers tells its employees to “figure it out. And keep it 8 hours, no paid OT”

  • @poofypoof6508
    @poofypoof6508 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I wouldn't necessarily call this a toxic manager.
    It's likely they have no say in the matter.

    • @bertbox69
      @bertbox69 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You must be a toxic manager then

    • @upthepunxcollective7398
      @upthepunxcollective7398 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bullshit. Everyone has the power to stand up to fuckery.

  • @brucelaborin2124
    @brucelaborin2124 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thats pretty spot on. At least, to the idea that they WOULD waste company time to explain this. They usually just speak this bull$#!t only when you ASK why you're told to carry the weight if staff positions no longer present . . . then they take the PTO, or go home EARLY, before they ignore your emails.

  • @userbosco
    @userbosco 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    My door MAY be open....

  • @Melissa-he5ys
    @Melissa-he5ys 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I’d like to thank everyone for being here at this mandatory meeting😂. It is funny cause it is true

  • @seditiouswalrus
    @seditiouswalrus 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Funny when i tried this i just got laid off too funny how that works 😅

  • @cmkilcullen8176
    @cmkilcullen8176 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is not new.
    In many job expectations and duties, there is a clause that reads "and other duties or tasks as needed."
    There is no elabration as to whether those tasks are temporary or permanent or relevant to your title or role to your job description/ skill set.

  • @wlfie950
    @wlfie950 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    At my first job they had me doing 2 peoples job for 15 an hour bi weekly. I did it for 2.5 years bc I wanted to help out thinking it'll pay off but when I finally refused they still made me do it. At the end they never gave me a raise or promotion and I ended up getting fired due to coming in late bc of all the disrespect and being overworked

    • @iskrajackal9049
      @iskrajackal9049 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You love the company but it's unrequited love. He/she is only rinsing you

    • @peterpain6625
      @peterpain6625 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iskrajackal9049 Especially in bigger companies it's always an "abusive relationship". You may not get any bruises or scars from cigarette burns but your soul will get crushed either way.

  • @brentoutashape9141
    @brentoutashape9141 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The only job I’ve ever had where taking on extra work meant more money was waiting tables.

  • @Code_Exodus
    @Code_Exodus 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Welcome to working for dollar tree.

  • @HistoryGe3k
    @HistoryGe3k 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I am a little bit confused. Most of us, unless you are salary, are employed on a hourly basis. You can only do so much work in a single shift, usually 8hr with an unpaid 30min lunch break or a 8.5hr shift with an unpaid lunch break. It is up to your employer to decide what you do inside those 8 hours. IF you have additional duties, you are still getting paid and you are not working for free. However the imposition of additional duties will impact on the existing work you are doing. To use an analogy, if the cup is full then the cup is full. You can only add water if the cup is not already full. If you keep adding water once the cup is full then you will have a mess which you will have to clean up. Additional duties will impact on existing duties. As one manager put it - if you want to implement this project, please identify which projects you no longer need.....

    • @waltblackadar4690
      @waltblackadar4690 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very much this. Whether Veronica spends 8 hours answering calls or 8 hours mopping floors, she gets paid for 8 hours. So she can shut up about extra compensation because she's still only doing 8 hours worth of work.

    • @eonaon6914
      @eonaon6914 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waltblackadar4690 so your time at home NOT doing work isnt valuable to yourself. The ability to be well rested and actually enjoy life occasionally, and not just sleep on your days off isnt in your playbook? I mean this vid seems like they will be extending hours to accomplish more work and while that is being paid its at your base rate, the math states your doing more and getting paid less for the time your spending working. Making like 87k on a 40 hour workweek is much more pay per hour than doing the same 87k on 60+ hours.

  • @hungryowl1559
    @hungryowl1559 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Im getting flashbacks. Its uncanny....

  • @mycroft16
    @mycroft16 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The discinnect in the minds of management is real and it is insane. Exactly how do you exoect this to work? If I take on more work from someone else... BOTH will suffer in quality as I still only have a fixed amount of time. More money doesnt change that but it offsets the suckage at least.

  • @jeffjames4064
    @jeffjames4064 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    And if she quit, that would be one less person to fire. Win win for the company.

    • @boristheamerican2938
      @boristheamerican2938 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Not really, you will lose the best employees and be stuck with losers. This is what the downward spiral looks like.

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You wait until the firings have finished, then quit.

    • @jeffjames4064
      @jeffjames4064 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@brucesim2003 kinky... I like it 👍

  • @brendaclaunch305
    @brendaclaunch305 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Ask to be one of laid off employees

  • @MaryMaryMags
    @MaryMaryMags 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Sounds eerily familiar...

  • @Max-zs6cj
    @Max-zs6cj 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Haha got laid off for questioning their decisions. Been part of a core team for 6 years. Their stock is still crashing :)

  • @4KindnessGal
    @4KindnessGal 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I know of a place where this happened a few years ago. No kidding at all!

  • @nrlatreille
    @nrlatreille 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Actually other duties as required only covers reasonable asks. You can't require a bookkeeper to do janitorial work for example. It's not a reasonable duty given their job standards. Additionally reasonable duties does restrict to the scope of the position at the time the person accepted the role. Of course you can refuse to do the work. They will fire you and lose the unemployment claim. Rarely do they win the other duties bullshit excuse. The government wants their cut so firing people and getting others to do the work with no additional taxes is not something the government likes. They don't care about the employee just the attempt to cheat them if they taxes they want to extort.

    • @ca_kay
      @ca_kay 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If a cashier can do janitorial work and a teacher can do janitorial work, a bookkeeper can do janitorial work.

    • @nrlatreille
      @nrlatreille 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ca_kay Well you need to learn the difference between what a person can do and what a person can legally be required to do. Now in addition to my Masters in Forensic Accounting I also have a Masters in Human Resources. I also good business law as an elective at one of my Bachelors levels. I've been in executive leadership for over 20 years. Those are my qualifications to weigh in. Lets hear yours.

    • @ca_kay
      @ca_kay 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nrlatreille A company can legit change your job title and description when they want. Unless you signed a contract stating they can't do that, they can. But there are cases when you can get in trouble for not cleaning up even if it's not labeled janitorial work. This is what is happening to teachers because schools are limiting what janitors can and cannot do in classrooms.

    • @nrlatreille
      @nrlatreille 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ca_kay They can't legally just arbitrarily change your job description to suit their needs without all parties agreeing. Teachers are a very bad example as they operate under a very different set of rules vs. the corporate world. In the real working world you can't just decide as a company to fire all your janitors then tell all your finance staff that hey we are going to rewrite your job description to now include janitorial. These concepts are pretty well defined by the US Department of Labor as well as many states in rules absolutely preventing these kinds of actions by companies. Other duties as assigned must be within a typical range of duties for a given profession and is subject to a reason test. For an accounting professional who typically is required to obtain an accounting degree of some kind for their given profession and therefore is considered a professional employee. A janitorial employee is generally consider a typical labor employee i.e. not requiring a degree to perform said duties. Those who positions are not even similar in terms of qualifications and therefore an accounting professional can legally refuse to perform janitorial duties as not legitimate "other duties as assigned". Let me flip the script. Can a doctors office as a janitorial employee to assist in surgery as "other duties as assigned"? How about requiring the doctor to mop floors? A job description upon hire is not technically a contract but it is an agreement and like any agreement you cannot just change it whenever you feel like it without both parties agreeing to it. You might want to also look into basic contract law and how it can be applicable in employment agreements.

    • @ca_kay
      @ca_kay 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nrlatreille You realize retail does this all the time, right? If this is actual law, why aren't police banging down the doors of corporations?

  • @zerotodona1495
    @zerotodona1495 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Go to your contract and say, this is not part of my duties. If you want to include it, I request a raise.

  • @tanyaglover4129
    @tanyaglover4129 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Ahhh ok. Well, then there woll be no additional work being done...not on my part at least.

  • @ilovehorses38
    @ilovehorses38 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Oh yeah.....the PTO situation 🙄

  • @timpauwels3734
    @timpauwels3734 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In reality the manager would have laid those people off in private meetings before sending out an email that “person x’s contract isn’t being extended this year.”
    And they might blame undefined people higher up for the decision.
    Or if they’re less tactful they could just say “there are too many of you” and that person x had been doing their job, but had not lived up to (undefined) expectations. So they had to go. “It’s a business, after all”. Oh and person x had to train an “assistant” to “help” fill their role for 2 weeks before they were told they were being laid off.

  • @VioletHarmony
    @VioletHarmony 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Please credit original audio

    • @KailaAnimations
      @KailaAnimations  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      in video's description

    • @VioletHarmony
      @VioletHarmony 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KailaAnimations thank you

  • @jocelynatl
    @jocelynatl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Replace managers with “companies”

  • @cryam6428
    @cryam6428 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sadly these sorts of meetings rarely if ever happen. Don't get me wrong it would be an improvement over the random global email that says tomorrow everyone is getting an email from HR. Because corporate won't know what people will do out of spite and the manager won't even know if their safe. Wait did I say email? You learn when your email and door RFID card is disabled.

  • @jasonluckett2263
    @jasonluckett2263 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yeah, put in 40 and go home

  • @TomASwift
    @TomASwift 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    In the real world you can pack up and go work somewhere else.

    • @Persephone-nr1dl
      @Persephone-nr1dl 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If you can find another job. Until unions are strong again, every company will be doing likewise.

  • @SKF358
    @SKF358 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    28%?!

  • @rext0n_0
    @rext0n_0 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In the real world, she would be gone before this happens. Unfortunately.

  • @mionty
    @mionty 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds like the BBSQ.....😂

  • @samwisegamgee6532
    @samwisegamgee6532 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    This is not a toxic manager. This is a transparent one.
    The transparent manager doesn’t do anything else than repeating the shareholders requests and applying what they ask with no added value from their own skills.

    • @mrtophat12
      @mrtophat12 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      No, this is a toxic manager. Leaders protect their employees against stupid bullshit from higher, while making efforts to accomplish the task. You drank the flavor-aide.

    • @samwisegamgee6532
      @samwisegamgee6532 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mrtophat12 I have experienced both of them.
      Believe me, there is a huge difference between a manager who just fail to protect their employees and a true toxic one, the one who actively enjoys making their employees suffers.
      Until a few weeks ago, my N+1 was a transparent kind, my N+2 was a toxic.
      The N+2 was manipulating and lying to everyone, including her own supervisors because she was unable to correctly implement their orders.
      The N+1 was just relying that because her lack of courage but wasn’t doing anything toxic by herself.

  • @keiheaherakiwi1611
    @keiheaherakiwi1611 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have the same in my contract, other duties as required, however it does not state ongoing, flick an email pose the question, when is a replacement being organised, when this duty/duties were clearly being undertaken by another individual. If your in the union flick email there and watch the shit hit the fan

  • @tauIrrydah
    @tauIrrydah 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I quit.

  • @nobullzone8394
    @nobullzone8394 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Welcome to Corporate America this is just one of the reasons why I followed my husband's lead when he asked if he could retire me the answer was yes at the time I was assistant customer service manager for Food Lion and also a third shift night time shift manager for Waffle House and this is the game that they played along with every retail store in existence in the US this is what they do and your bonus that you should be getting or pay raise goes to your manager now I get paid just as much as I was making for working both of those full-time jobs sitting at home taking care of my husband and our household by the way he's a disabled veteran!

  • @NatalieO171
    @NatalieO171 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Join your Union!! Seriously, I watch half these things and think this is when you should be calling your Union rep…

    • @1flash3571
      @1flash3571 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you think the Union will make your life better, better think again. Just go get another job. Not that freaking hard.

    • @NatalieO171
      @NatalieO171 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@1flash3571 I’m not sure where you’re based but in Australia Unions have achieved overwhelming gains for working people and a Union rep can be invaluable in these kinds of situations. I know I have worked in places where a Union would have intervened between people being notified of lay-offs and the redistribution of the workload to remaining employees. But we also have workplace protections (thanks largely to Unions) preventing companies from laying people off without due cause, and if you’re making someone redundant you can’t simply redistribute the work unless it falls within the definition of work already being done by other staff.
      Additionally the beauty of Unions is they’re member driven so if you’re not happy with your Union vote and advocate to change it. Don’t be lazy and criticise from the outside.

    • @ingegerdandersson6963
      @ingegerdandersson6963 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@NatalieO171sounds like Sweden and many other european countries too.

    • @Eluderatnight
      @Eluderatnight 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@NatalieO171austrailia had 99% of its industry sent over seas because of it...

  • @Inariforlife
    @Inariforlife 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is what its like to work at the Texan gas stations here in texas. Which is a rip off of buccees.

  • @colettechandler5386
    @colettechandler5386 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Company save all that cam with the lest pay

  • @Notrllyluna
    @Notrllyluna 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Here before ur famous ❤

    • @ardeth75
      @ardeth75 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This isn't their material.

    • @Notrllyluna
      @Notrllyluna 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ardeth75 oh

  • @shon7648
    @shon7648 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yup

  • @nicholasmercorella5318
    @nicholasmercorella5318 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In my experience this happens to managers more than to hourly employees. Salaried managers in the “exempt” category don’t get overtime but are usually expected to absorb the extra duties, and extra hours to complete those duties. Of course the layoff scenario occurs more often in badly managed companies. I’ve been in manufacturing my entire career so can only speak from that perspective. Many modern companies don’t actually produce anything so I imagine that laying off paper shufflers in some modern business is a more common occurrence. In manufacturing the workers fill necessary roles toward making your product. You can automate some of the more manual tasks but the tasks MUST be done to make your product. Can’t just cut bodies without spending the money on automation machinery to fulfill the same tasks. Unless the company or industry is on the way out permanently, then getting laid off may turn out to be a blessing. Imagine being a worker in a company that made pay phones?

    • @ca_kay
      @ca_kay 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The salary is still far higher than what they'd make as wages regardless and it means they have unlimited time to get the job done because they can't trust other people to do it.
      I'm just as against the current job market as everyone else, but yes - there ARE tons of lazy employees out there.

    • @nicholasmercorella5318
      @nicholasmercorella5318 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ca_kay on a recent trip to NYC I noticed a new trend that I found particularly sad. NYC is a particularly expensive place to live. I noticed what appeared to be an immigrant underclass that eaked out a living running “Door Dash” type jobs to survive. With the expanding gap between those at the top and those at the bottom it appears those at the top have taken to importing servants to wait on them as most native born Americans insist on a living wage. I’ve always been a somewhat conservative person but it is becoming so obvious that Americans AND those that come here wanting to become Americans are being used and exploited by the financial system that has been developing over the last 20 or so years.

    • @Temulon
      @Temulon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      "Imagine being a worker in a company that made pay phones?"
      This is why I work for a company that produces food. If times are tough you'll put off buying that newer car or washer and dryer or a stainless refrigerator with an ice maker.
      But you have to eat.

    • @nicholasmercorella5318
      @nicholasmercorella5318 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Temulon or buggy whips or any obsolete or soon to be obsolete products.

    • @anndownsouth5070
      @anndownsouth5070 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@nicholasmercorella5318 I think you are conservative in saying the last 20 years. I think it has been going on much longer. It has just sped up in the last 20 years. Before, it used to be more subtle, but now the top guys are just storming on.

  • @kevinsmith-dn4vp
    @kevinsmith-dn4vp 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There are many caveats to this conversation