"If I'm not qualified for the position, then I'm not qualified to teach someone who's more qualified than me." Perfectly said. These companies need to quit playing games with people.
They ought to because no real success can come by playing mind games with people and deceiving them only to extract their talent. That is a form of labor theft and is unlawful
Wait until the economy takes a dip, then they would not be going with her and "Upon further review, we've decided to not only not put you in the role that you have been doing for the last 9 months, but we are also reducing your salary as according to market research, you are over paid."
I’ve done this at least twice. I applied for the role got passed over and then they wanted me to train those people. I conveniently forgot things and referred them to other people making more than me that didn’t know as much as me. Because I’m petty like that. If you don’t think I could handle the role I guess I can’t handle training the folks filling it. Edited for spelling*
@@johnlozauskas778 Maybe you should have watched the video. She resigned, completely. They wont 'not be going with her' when the economy takes a dip...because she's already gone.
That's the only good thing about this whole f*ed up situation. Now...watch Veronica end up with a better job making twice as much. Success is the best revenge.
Maybe some. But the overwhelming majority silently quit because they're lazy, entitled, have no loyalty. Your narrative is perverse to make out silent quitting is because people are too good but not acknowledged.....
@@danguee1 I get what you're saying. I've seen that too many times myself. But on a channel like this, that message falls flat. I like this channel, but this is also a channel that promotes good workers being screwed over. It's not about incompetent workers who coast on by. You'd have to find ANOTHER TH-cam CHANNEL for that.
Which can be fine, because if you are irreplaceable, they better give you a damn raise when the time comes or your walking your ass out the door and they are really fucked then.
This happened to someone i used to work with. She'd been acting manager for 2 years whilst the manager was on long term sick leave. She was well liked, professional, supportive. The place ran like a well-oiled machine. When the position became available she was told she'd need to interview for it (common in most places even if promoting internally. They have to be seen as fair or something). She didn't get it. They said "the other candidate performed better at interview". Not ONE ounce of respect or acknowledgement for the fantastic job she'd done! So after 12 years with the company she quit. She was missed and the new boss wasn't anywhere near as good.
Happened to me, too! A month later I left that team and never looked back! I’m so glad now I didn’t get the job, because that Director is gone and so is that team!!! God had a much better plan!!! Just saying 😊😊😊 BTW: the so-called “more qualified candidate” left within a year!!!😂😂😂😂
I once got turned down for a role because "my experience didn't fit the needs of the role." Fair enough, you might think. The kicker is, I had created the role at the company, and had done it for 18 months while they looked to backfill me (a consultant) to take it on an internal basis. The new person got let go and they went out to market, so I applied. I got the (obviously automated) response that my experience of having done the exact role at the exact company wasn't suitable. 😅
@@shirleysp8176 I did get around the automated screener and told them about how their recruitment process was flawed. The role was paying (way) too little in the end, so I passed.
People complain that employees aren’t loyal anymore. But I see so many examples of myself and friends working towards a goal only for the company to hire someone externally.
Only an idiot would be loyal to a large company in this day and age. Corporations evolved to be sociopathic narcicists and expect us to keep being loyal dumb dumbs cause that lets them wring out the most blood from our veins berore dumping us in the trash.
Years ago, I saved my company from being spec'ed out of a potentially large project. Large enough so that etiquette at the time said I should be safe for the next year short of sleeping with the boss's wife. I was fired within six months. Now a lot of stuff I do is password protected, or totally idiosyncratic to me, or dependent on some outside thing. And pretty undocumented. I also happen to keep tabs on competitors. If we leave on good terms, no issue. Good luck if I have to pull a knife out of my back.
I don't blame Veronica 1 bit. She is not supposed to be experienced enough for a position that she has been working for 9 months? and you bring in a brand new person and they need training? If they're that good, they don't need training. The new person should have had Veronica's old position, so veronica could move up.
If you ever attend a managerial seminar you'll understand their 'logic'. Hiring from 'outside' ensures that the person in the authority position has NO ties to those under them, no friendships, no knowledge or care about family situations, health issues, nothing. They are 100% someone who doesn't know any of these people from a hole in the ground. So that means no sympathy, no empathy, no 'covering' for your friends, and no KNOWLEDGE about the issues, problems, or complaints about things on the 'floor' that someone 'elevated' might make a point to try and change/improve for their former coworkers, that MIGHT cost money, or alleviate enough stress to make them able to identify OTHER problems that might be more 'ingrained' or systemic, rather than just 'surviving the day' endlessly. They want someone who is going to be EAGER to show to the COMPANY they can be the kind of Manager THEY want, so they're going to do everything they can to 'motivate' employees, and drive them harder without real regard to their wellbeing, morale, etc. Now... We KNOW this is counter productive, that companies, work, and overall performance is enhanced when people care about their work environment beyond simple self interest or survival. However the 'risk' of costs to keep employees happy fills them with such FEAR, that they'd rather have 75% profits from 100 Million by ensuring nothing changes, than risking only getting 60% profits of 200K. Cause it isn't just numbers go up that they are concerned about, it's Percentages can't go down either. Even if it means MORE money, they still want their 'entitled' share of whatever that profit is, and that percentage going down to make more money is just as bad as LOSING money to them. So they make sure that the only people going to most management positions ONLY think of the employees beneath them as 'assets' not people, not human beings, not even slaves, they are subhuman, tools, easily swapped out and replaced if they no longer work as intended, even if 'easily' is a stretch. Better to lose a good employee with impressive skills that hopes to improve things for their environment for a desperate College Student trying not to starve and will do anything so long as it pays. They even conducted a psychological evaluation on this a while back, many middle managers at various major companies after taking the test basically landed disturbingly high in Sociopathic Tendencies, aka people who fail to recognize other people as 'human'.
True! I got stuck in a position that I have a particular talent for and lost out on four or five promotions because of it. I finally said, "I was going to have to go in a different direction." Throwing their own words back in their face--- magically a "new" position (promotion) opened up for me before I could finish the notice period.
They never evaluate the cost of losing a trained and functional employee, loss of efficiency, loss of production due to training of the replacement and loss of production for the trainer. I have been through this as an ad hoc 'trainer'
_"So being good in my current role is hindering my growth in the company?"_ . That question hits like a freight train. There is no reasonable answer to that one.
This exact scenario happened to me. Now i didn't quit on the spot but I did stop at Men's Warehouse on the way home to purchase two new suits and immediately started a job search. I resigned 6-weeks later.
This happened to me with a nonprofit I was running. When the old ED decided she needed to work fewer hours to be with her family, she suggested that I become her co-ED. The arrangement worked perfectly and we complemented each others' strengths. In addition, I had already run the nonprofit as the interim ED while she had taken maternity leave. When she decided to step away from the role completely, instead of hiring me outright to become the full ED, the board decided to do a search to hire externally. They allowed me to interview for the job I was already doing. They hired someone else who, as it turns out, lied about her fundraising experience (the only part of the job they felt I didn't have enough experience in). Two years later, they closed the doors of the nonprofit because their external hire ran it into the ground.
That's a feature, not a bug. All businesses get run into the ground to extract all the value. Then dump them and move on. That's what business majors *do*.
Resigned in March while doing the jobs of 4 people and they said I was not meeting expectations. All that free work and they still had to stab me with a needs improvement. Hope they are enjoying doing my former job.
Ohh they knew what they were doing. If the creative dismissal didn't get you then they more than created a paper trail to make it seem like you weren't doing your job.
I quit a job where I got meets for three years in a row with below average raises. They had to hire two people to sort of replace me. And they were both higher grade so the cost more too. All told about a 3:1 ratio when they were trying to save money
Oh of course. If you get all DOCUMENTED top marks on your performance reviews, then they would have to give you a promotion or raise. Even when there isn’t much work to do in the first place, they can always find something to mark as an “opportunity” so they can justify not advancing or rewarding you.
This happened to my uncle. He was in a managerial position, and the company brought in someone else, younger than him, and they wanted my uncle to train that replacement. He quit the next day
This happened to me, but it was a good thing. It was the push i needed. I ended up accepting a position at another company with a substantial pay raise. The look on the boss's face when i handed in my resignation is a core memory for me. LOL.
That’s the only reason I’d take on additional duties or an acting title - for the NEXT job. I’d also demand these changes in writing before I took it as proof for future employers
I actually had this happen to me. The rage at the request was more than offset by the look on my dept. directors face when I said, " Could you be ANY more insulting?! I'm not qualified for the position, but I'm qualified to train someone to do it?! No."
They didn't want to pay Veronica what she's actually worth and they rather low ball someone from the outside. Or it could be someone in management rather hire a family member or close family friend or associate.
Sadly, they often pay the new person from the outside *an even higher salary*. In fact, leaving every 2-3 years is one of the best ways to increase your salary. After a decade, you'll be making (on average) about 25% more money. And often (but not always), the new person is from a "higher" social class. People who come from certain families and who went to certain schools often *start* at the executive level. They do *not* work their way up.
My mom worked at a starbucks, same story, she had been acting manager for months without the pay. The Regional Manager brought in a new employee and ask my mom to "show the new gal the ropes" for the next few weeks. She did it. Turns out the this person was hired to be the new manager at that location and it seemed to have slipped thier minds to tell anyone until the woman's training was all done. My mom was heart broken, she walked out on the spot and didnt go back.
@@ScarlettR4364 your mom deserved better treatment but she could have reacted differently ( not take it as a personal affront ). Hope she finds a new position where she is appreciated and also gets satisfaction from her work. Your short reply above was classy, btw.
Yup - the only good thing is is you can put that title on your resume. Its totally truthful. Then you can leave those a h0l3s for a company who does value your worth.
Horror stories like this are a dime a dozen, sadly. People brought to tears, left burnt out, and/or left in a spiraling state of self abuse... all that to say, it's definitely more common across the US.
Reminds me of the best advice I was ever given regarding you job that came from my own mother: “Never become irreplaceable in your job. If you can’t be replaced, you can’t be promoted.”
Well, it's not so sound advice in a technical skills-based job. Promotion isn't always the goal in these fields, just more pay. So, each job needs a different strategy based on the goal that one is motivated toward. Oh, and no Ai can do my job of physically fixing the machines, so even the machines have to respect me.
These "Veronica Videos" are a good reminder of why it's important to save and invest, have a solid emergency fund. Employment is a minefield. Strive for getting FU money saved.
Don't always need FU 'money'. Veronica and her husband might have just paid off their house. It would be so satisfying to hear her say 'goodbye, corporate world. It's been crap.'
I have been in this position too many times. In each, I refused to not only train the person that got the promotion because they were easier to replace, but I also refused to review their work before it was released. Let everyone see those that received the promotion can't do the work. Edit: I also always refused to be an "acting" anything.
"Let everyone see those that received the promotion can't do the work." These are wise words. I'm going to follow this advice when school starts. Thanks.
This happened to me in the past once, but they told me the new person would be my partner to ease the load. I trained them up, then found out they were my supervisor. …it’s very difficult to not turn into a supervillain
When this happened to me I immediately jumped ship and proceeded to extract the best of the company employees 1 by 1 (I’d contact them directly or via mutual contacts) into roles within my new company via recommendation. Got hefty recruitment bonuses too for my efforts meaning I was essentially paid for exacting my personal revenge against my unscrupulous former employer. The cherry on top of my two-tier vengeance cake was when approx 2 years later whose name & CV should I see in my inbox for a senior specialist role but my former manager. Used an almost- verbatim sentence he had used on me when denying me the role I was already working to notify him that he was unsuccessful in his application 😌. If you’re reading this Paul, you’re a tosspot & remembering fucking you over as you did to me always puts a big old smile on my face even on the shittiest of days.
I've seen this with teacher assistants. They work as hard as a teacher. They go to night school to earn their teaching degree. But when they apply for a teaching position at the school they have worked for years, the school hires someone outside, even from another city. The school wants the TA to remain a TA, rather than rewarding them for their experience and effort. Betrayed.
Its why I recommend everyone get out of education. I did 13 years, was up for Tenure 5 times, brought schools from 85% fail rate on the state exam to less than 5% fail rate five times. My reward? Non renewed. 5 times. Each time it was always the day before I'd get tenure. Get out of education. They don't want good teachers.
Had this happen to me once in retail. Was doing all manager duties except schedule and hiring/firing. The stock room was a disaster when I got there. I worked my @ss off on it, sorted, logged and shipped out SO MUCH old inventory our dm was shocked was even there. Had it organized and running smooth within a few months. Trained employees in loss prevention, sales, etc. They hired a woman who had worked at Nordstrom management, expected me to train her. She was nice, we got along well even after I told her no, I wouldn't be cleaning/organizing the mess she made of the back desk (it seemed like she expected I'd be her PA, instead of assistant mngr). But I was highly resentful that I wasn't given management of the store. I thought I'd more than proved myself capable. The only reason I stayed was that another manager in a different, much larger store wanted me to be her assistant. That was a good move for me, and I learned a ton, but if it hadn't been for her, they'd have lost me.
RETAIL. So....much....fuckery. Your experience sounds a bit like mine when I was working for Pier One Imports. The regional managers there screwed up royally. One of the store managers that hired me, Lucy, got things done. She was tough, but fair, but not in that bitchy kind of way. Wonderful to work with, got along with everyone. She also doubled as the store's visual coordinator when the store had to transition from one season to the next. When we had to transition from Fall into Christmas, Lucy's mother fell ill, and couldn't come in. After a back and forth between her and the regional managers, Lucy quit, and set off a chain of events that resulted in the store's closure. First, half of the sales associates, and the entire stock crew quit out of loyalty to her. Turns out, those associates and the stock crew had previously worked with Lucy at the Children's Place, and she hired them all into Pier One. Second, the remaining manager, Keith, was promoting sales associates to manager AGAINST THEIR WILL because nobody wanted to be Lucy's replacement. So once a sales associate got promoted, THEY quit. Third, instead of hiring a new stock crew, Keith decided that the remaining associates were going to double as the stock crew (but would yell at the associates for having to go into the stock room), train the new associates hired (a managerial duty), and gather the day's receipts - another managerial duty. We demanded more pay for more work, he refused, and we walked - leaving him with just a few new associates who didn't know what the hell they were doing. The regional managers then relocated Keith and those new associates to other stores throughout the city, and "temporarily" closed our store for the purpose of hiring new store managers, new associates, and a new stock crew. It never re-opened, and the location became a BCBG Max Azria store, less than 2 years after Lucy quit.
That was basically me. I got rehired with the company (I worked for them 10 years ago) as a part time keyholder (which was the job I had 10 years ago as well). But the manager of the store was running two stores and only allowed an assistant manager at the other location. So we had a part time manager, no assistant, oh and he didn't really do much when he was at our location anyway. Then he decided to take several weeks off during Christmas and New Years. And he didn't make up all the schedules before he left either. So as the person with the most experience (and the one who had trained literally everyone he had hired), I stepped up and kept the store running smoothly. I made up the schedules, although I had to do it all by hand as I didn't have access to the scheduling software. He comes back and I found myself having to continue to do a lot of things that he should have been doing as manager. I had already talked to the DM over Christmas and he'd said the situation was temporary and that eventually our manager would go back to his other location and they'd be looking for a manager for our location - he said I was his first choice. So when I called up the DM at the end of January cuz I was tired of doing the work of an ASM without the pay, I was gaslit and told that all the stuff I had been doing were "store-wide" tasks and that they weren't specific to managers (assistant or otherwise). When I said I was at the point of wanting to quit, he told me I was easily replaceable. So I told him to replace me. I walked out that afternoon. A month later, I noticed that the store almost never seemed to be open. I texted the only person still there that I knew about it - that the store only seemed to be open when she was there. An hour later, I got a call from the District Manager offering me the manager position. Guess I wasn't so replaceable after all, huh?
Veronica is my hero. I experienced this exact same thing more than once. Just hearing the phrase "we are going in a different direction" gives me PTSD.
I did this same exact thing one time. Best thing I ever did. The company flipped out as I was the only one doing my job and had no clue what or how I did what I did. They started offering me increases out the wazu and then got real upset when they finally realized that I had no intention of working 2 more weeks, they truly thought I was giving them 2 weeks notice, lol. I was told by people still there that several of the senior managers were let go after that as they had a timeline to meet on a project I was part of that did not get done. It was glorious. I eventually was contacted by a Sr Manager asking if I would like to discuss coming back, and when I said not if I had to work for the same management team, they told me that would not be an issue, so that confirmed what I was told. I still did not go back. I found a new job in less than 3 weeks and was much happier.
You go girl! My company did that to me. Told me I was going to be a manager, said I was an assistant manager, gave me 6 people to train, 6 months later, one comes back to my location saying he was the manager now and that I need to step down down and be a regular worker. I did. Then got fired for not helping him with questions from my coworkers. I told him it’s not my job to help. It was his. That’s why I was demoted. So he fired me. Called it gross insubordination. In other words I talked back to him by saying No, that’s not my job. So yep, leave and make them come to you for help. You can then get the raise and position you want.
Same thing happened to me. I was told the only reason I didn't get the job was because they required a 4 yr. degree. SOOOOOO......... I took advantage of the tuition assistance they offered (at that time 100% plus books). Started looking outside 2 mos. before graduation, got a job and resigned 3 weeks after I got my last reimbursement check. Eventually earned my MBA thanks to another generous education assistance program at another employer and through the course of time I'm now over 6.5x my original, pre-bachelor's salary. I owe my old company a thanks for finally giving me the motivation and the funding I needed to finally do what I needed to do.
This happened to me when i was working at a Urgent Care Clinic. I was head MA and then they hired someone else externally and said she had more credentials and wanted me to train her on how to use the EMR system, EKG machine, X-Ray machine and so forth. I laughed and took my badge off nicely placed it on the desk and walked out. They blew my phone up wanting me to come back. Absolutely not get somebody qualified to do it 😁✌🏽
I was working my current job as a contractor instead of working for the owners of the building (at the time) and i was wanting the job i was already doing but one other person was interested in it (because it was Monday through Friday) and they did work for the owners of the building and those people get first crack at new positions first, and i was asked that if they were interested in the position if i would train them. My only response to that was "are you asking the turkey to set the table at Thanksgiving?"
I know the pain. I was hired as an assistant manager for one branch and asked to go to another branch where the manager had quit. The branch was losing over $50,000 a month when I arrived. Within 3 months I had turned it around to making $100,000 profit a month and it was growing. On the 4th month, they hired a new manager from outside the company. I was asked to stay there, I was poached by a competing company and sent to a store as an assistant manager which was losing over $50,000 a month. I was told I would be next in line for the managers job. Within 3 months, I had turned it into over $150,000 profit per month. They hired a new manager externally and they couldn’t understand why I left the company.
These animations really resonate as I’ve had so many similar conversations over the years. Many people in senior management positions are completely incompetent and it’s obvious why many companies are failing.
This happened to me. I still don't understand why. I was distraught, so made the decision to hand in my notice (it was 4 weeks). I had so much annual leave that I barely worked as they were forced to give me all my days, I declined to train the new lady as I had to sort out the other teams, orders etc. I found out that everything went down hill within 3 months as a few of my colleagues were upset on my behalf and thought if I were treated like that, so would they be so they found other jobs quickly and left. The lady didn't know what she was doing, so a few others left as she was trying to dump her responsibilities into them. The lady then complained that this is three people job, so they hired another manager and then manager left and others left in droves. Apparently the other teams were trying to contact me, but I had changed my number by then
@@hengineerThank you for your comment. That is a very good idea and the extra income would have certainly helped. I hope other people read your comment so they can gain
@anony1312 Dont beat yourself up. Its all about the money. You were awesome and had experience, so you could command more money for the position. So they hire someone from the outside or promote someone with less experience so they can work them harder and pay them less. So basically - its a back-handed complement. You are basically punished for being a great employee.
I think COVID showed a lot of people their jobs didn’t give a damn about them...and companies are wondering why people won’t go back to work. People are tired of the bs and can be at peace working from home.
Who are they working from home for if not companies? Are you aware working from home has been noted in a recent study out of Stanford to reduce productivity by 20%?
@@tjmarxpeople started their own companies. I know several who did exactly that. I'm sure there are plenty of "articles" stating a reduction in productivity. I don't know anyone who worked less when they work from home. We all work harder.
Ok@@anonymoose116 🤣 People did not en masse create their own companies. A study isn't an article. Anecdote is not evidence. Come back when you have something insightful to say
I was on the ground floor of a manufacturing shop. I was the de facto shop foreman, teaching welding and assembly to the new employees while working with a company representative to set up the equipment. Once things were running and the product was going out the door, I was to receive a title and pay raise. Imagine my shock when one of the men I trained announced they had just been promoted to foreman. It had nothing to do with his dad being the union rep for the plant.
It’s like being in a foster home and doing all the chores and getting good grades, but a new kid with bad attitude is adopted because ‘they need a family more than you do’.
This is one I 100% agree with. It has happened to me many times of the years. The few times I stayed to train the person I was let go afterward. When I was younger, I took the "but you're so good in your current position" as a compliment...it is NOT a compliment.
I had a job where i trained the majority of the staff. This profession (medical transcription) started to break one large department into several smaller ones, and if you wanted to move to another "department" (exact same job though) you had to reapply. Myself, along with everyone i trained, applied, and everyone except me got hired for a particular sub-department, including a person fresh out of school. The kicker though, was the letter I received saying i wasn't hired in this new department because they hired people with more experience than me. It was all BS; I trained these people! Needless to say, it worked in my favor in the end because after a few short years, the sub-department was dissolved, and everyone was let go except me, because i was still in the old department. I stayed long enough to get them pay for my college, then left. 👌
I won a sales contest, a trip to Orlando. A month later I was told the trip was cancelled because the company didn't meet their profitability goals, and that I "should just understand." I didn't understand. Not only that, my pay was cut. I couldn't quit on the spot but I quit with a new job two months later. Companies are not your family, they will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat. I work for myself now.
I knew someone who was an interim principal, did a great job, and didn't even get an interview for the permanent position. He left the district and took a principal position somewhere else. It was a clear sign his own district would never give him a principalship. He made a great choice
I was injured in the line of duty. The mayor immediately informed me there was no light duty available ( there was). I told him I had to do about a week of evidence prep an court prep. 4 days in he attempted to write me up for being out of uniform ( my medical brace wouldn’t fit over uniform parts the material was too slick so I wore jeans while working in my office). On the fifth day he came in at noon and wanted to know if I was done yet… so I said yep. Shut down the computer and went home. Every day for the next week they tried calling for something… nope sorry no light duty available remember.
I came back into a job as a specialist… there were other “specialists” without my credentials. They made me attend a fair put on by the department. as I went table to table all the employees were like “ but you taught me about the product way back”… I was like “just sign my form”. I stayed as they were paying me well but I realized no loyalty was earned or given. Whatever, I left after it served my purposes and blindsided the director with my resignation.
This happened to me because the outside hire had such great ideas on how to increase revenue for our business. Once he started, his "great idea" was to use my ideas to increase revenue. He was a nice guy...he gave me credit for everything, but it made me mad enough that I left...and ended up with a 2 level higher title and 60% higher pay at the new place.
Years ago when there was a downtown Chicago Radio Shack an assistant manager position opened. Even after increasing sales over 125% in six weeks by selling calculators to the college I was told I wouldn’t be given the job because women have children! He then asked me to train the guy who had no experience, no college, nothing! He didn’t get trained and when the new manager found out why no one would even speak to him he quit!
Um, that is HIGHLY illegal. You cannot discriminate someone because of children, family, etc. Please tell me you sued the sit outta him. PS. Im also HIGHLY in love with you right now because Radio Shack was my FAVORITE place!! ROFL!!
@@tellurye Worse I quit as did the current assistant manager. I was an associate and had been working at another store and was transferred. When the new guy found out why no one would train him he quit too! They closed weeks later!
Wow, I hope this doesn’t mean Veronica is out of our lives now. Please get another job soon so we can watch you put people in their place. You’re teaching us so much.
Aaaand, if Veronica had been offered the position, it would have come with at best a 5% raise, while the new hire came in at 20-30% more than she is making. These corporations don't give a SHEEEEEIT about loyalty, integrity or work ethic. Jump ship every 2 years, and make sure you get a 15-20% raise each time. In 10 years you will have more than doubled your current salary. DO IT.
Wow this exact thing, right down to the length of time, happened to a lady at my last job. After 9 months of filling the management role without the management pay, they hired a manager with zero experience and made her train him. She immediately jumped ship. I hope she's doing well
Never do train anyone to do a job you are doing when there is only one position available. Never take on a higher position without increased pay. If you have low self esteem or none at all, please work on yourself, because you will have no one, who will fight your corner at work more than you. Find a GOOD union. Don't work unpaid, the odd 5 - 10 mons but never more than that. Don't presume your colleagues are your friends. Don't presume HR care for you. These are mistakes that I had to learn the hard way and it is heart breaking. Your time can never be replaced.
.. THE NERVE OF SOME COMPANIES AND THEIR SUPERVISORS! .. This is for certain a clear indication on some level of NEPOTISM .. Verónica's actions of turning in her resignation "EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY" is a wonderful touch at the end for me .. because after proving way beyond a shadow of a doubt that she's more than capable and qualified to handle a managerial position, and they decide to go with someone outside the company, a person that NEEDS extensive training? .. Yeah, it's because of some level of NEPOTISM! .. Unfortunately, I've seen this level of disrespect and ungrateful acts too many times ...
I worked for a federally funded college. The director hired family members. She got away with it by making her second in command....and lap dog, do the hiring. She hired her daughter, mother, son, ex-boyfriend's kids (through the lap dog) and nobody did squat about it. They kept shaving off my salary so her kids could get bonuses around Christmas. I didn't keep records, so I couldn't sue. Keep in mind, I was the best instructor there, according to student reviews. At least the college closed. But the program they work for still lives on. I'm still furious.
I got that too. Somebody's kid just graduated so they're going to give them a managerial role and pretend that they're more qualified than the person that they're taking the job from.
Yup. This happened to a very hard working coworker of mine. She was not given the TL position because the 'ideal candidate' is friends with the CEO's son, so they decided to give the woman that is friends with CEO's son the position instead, because ✨️NEPOTISM POWER✨️ But the joke is this lady is very incompetent and does not work hard. She is a horrible employee but she is protected because... ✨️NEPOTISM POWER✨️
Should never have accepted the acting role, Veronica. They lied to you and they never intended to give the position to you. They got 9 months of work at a higher level and didnt pay you what you were worth. Thats why you never accept a dangled carrot. Act your wage.
Facts!!! On the flip side she gain additional experience and can bring more leverage to the next company or work for herself..either way Veronica still winning ❤
That and she could probably go to the labor board and insist that She is owed back pay for the last 9 months for performing tasks and duties that are above her position within the company
Don't let you be an employee who has been there thru all the trials & tribulations of the company they really gone overlook you. I remember when years at the same workplace meant something now it's like you might as well just started.
I told one boss I had a doctors appointment, came back and gave a weeks notice. Said I'd got some rough news, wanted to take some time and figure some things out. What happened was I was hired off the first interview for a better job. Never got the backpay I was owed but who cares now.
This happened in a corporate office that I worked in 40 yrs ago to someone in a different department than mine. It was then that I knew I didn't want to be there anymore.
Exactly! Do not stand for a company that does not appreciate you. There's tons of companies out there looking for qualified people who will take care of you.
I was actually in this position. I was seconded as manager, had been doing the role for almost a year. They hired a guy and expected me to train him. I also resigned
I have seen this before. This is a setup by management to let go of Veronica. After training her replacement she would be let go as being "over qualified and redundant" for her current position. The big clue is that if you haven't been promoted in 60 days of "acting" in a position they are using it as a way for you to find your next position and giving you a "bump" to get you out. Take the hint and go.
Not. Certainly it could be that. But the other possibility, which often happens is exactly what HR mentioned. You're too good at the current role, which is why they don't want to promote you or do anything to allow you to move out of it.
I had this experience happened to me, was not selected for the management position they hired someone else and then expect me to train that person. More or less told them to shove it. Bought my time and left at the busiest time of the year a few months later!
I experienced many of the scenarios depicted in this series during my working years. However, if I - or anyone else - had responded the way Veronica does in many of these videos I/they would have been either fired outright or the employer would have found a way to facilitate my/their exit including making stuff up, fake bad reviews, etc. I watched it happen over and over to people during the course of my career.
I refused to train my replacement when she was dumb enough to tell me she received a wage increase. Nothing they did about it...i am sure she was fine😂😂😂
This happened to my son:s fiancee. She trained 2 young men in her department and then the bank promoted them over her. Then she trained a new hire, a woman, who was promoted after she completed their training. Then she quit and went down the street to a different bank and got hired at a higher position with more pay. When will management wake up?😂
The bank she quit at still continued on as business as usual so she wasn't that critical to their day to day operations, but I don't know it could have been a different story if she quit before the new hires. I'm not at all downplaying the role your son's fiancee played in her old job, but I'm just being realistic on how corporations view it's employees as expendable pawns.
As the Peter’s Principle states - ‘People are promoted to their level of incompetence’. Middle Managers who do these things to other workers this KNOW they’re not good enough to get any higher, so protect their position at the expense of everyone else. All the issues I’ve had in my workplaces are with middle managers, not bosses or beginners. Middle managers get so far then no further due to their own incompetences, and they know this inside so all their actions reflect this fear of being found out.
Bam right there. If you're going to tell me to my face that I'm not qualified for a position that I've been acting in for several months, then you can be sure as hell that I'm not qualified to train anyone. The conversation is now over
"If I'm not qualified for the position, then I'm not qualified to teach someone who's more qualified than me." Perfectly said. These companies need to quit playing games with people.
They ought to because no real success can come by playing mind games with people and deceiving them only to extract their talent. That is a form of labor theft and is unlawful
Wait until the economy takes a dip, then they would not be going with her and "Upon further review, we've decided to not only not put you in the role that you have been doing for the last 9 months, but we are also reducing your salary as according to market research, you are over paid."
@@johnlozauskas778 Reducing my pay is the fastest way to make me quit.
I’ve done this at least twice. I applied for the role got passed over and then they wanted me to train those people. I conveniently forgot things and referred them to other people making more than me that didn’t know as much as me. Because I’m petty like that. If you don’t think I could handle the role I guess I can’t handle training the folks filling it.
Edited for spelling*
@@johnlozauskas778 Maybe you should have watched the video. She resigned, completely. They wont 'not be going with her' when the economy takes a dip...because she's already gone.
And now she can say she has 9 months of management experience on her resume.
That's the only good thing about this whole f*ed up situation. Now...watch Veronica end up with a better job making twice as much. Success is the best revenge.
Yup. Whether or not she gets the promotion at her company, she promoted herself by taking the assignment and getting the experience! ❤❤❤
Not in my case. Since I filled in and never had the title when I applied with the experience they confirmed my work date but not the position.
1 year.
Probably not officially, as they never gave her the title.
That's why it doesn't pay to give blood to a company that is not your own.
Obviously, never do so. Only bust your ass for a company that you yourself own and your well-being but never go out of your way for a default company
They. Always. Want. Blood.
If you were to drop dead tomorrow. They would have your job advertised well before your death was announced in the local newspaper obituaries
And any employees who work for you should not bust their gut for you.
Very well put
That’s why people silently quit every. Single. Day.
I did! Don't regret it-AT ALL😂😂😂
Maybe some. But the overwhelming majority silently quit because they're lazy, entitled, have no loyalty. Your narrative is perverse to make out silent quitting is because people are too good but not acknowledged.....
@@danguee1 I get what you're saying. I've seen that too many times myself. But on a channel like this, that message falls flat. I like this channel, but this is also a channel that promotes good workers being screwed over. It's not about incompetent workers who coast on by. You'd have to find ANOTHER TH-cam CHANNEL for that.
@@danguee1 Nope. Getting a new job is hard, so if your workers are all leaving, that means YOU'RE not doing what you should to keep them. Duh.
If you're working your hours, then you're working. Silent quitting sounds like a management term.
When you are Irreplaceable, you become unpromotable...
I deeply feel that from personal experience.
@@lauraporter6516 So do I.
Yep, so get a promotion in a different company in same field for 2+years then come back to your old company as your manager's boss. :)
I'm glad that worked out for me😂
Which can be fine, because if you are irreplaceable, they better give you a damn raise when the time comes or your walking your ass out the door and they are really fucked then.
This happened to someone i used to work with. She'd been acting manager for 2 years whilst the manager was on long term sick leave. She was well liked, professional, supportive. The place ran like a well-oiled machine. When the position became available she was told she'd need to interview for it (common in most places even if promoting internally. They have to be seen as fair or something). She didn't get it. They said "the other candidate performed better at interview". Not ONE ounce of respect or acknowledgement for the fantastic job she'd done! So after 12 years with the company she quit. She was missed and the new boss wasn't anywhere near as good.
That's usually how it happens.
Happened to me, too! A month later I left that team and never looked back! I’m so glad now I didn’t get the job, because that Director is gone and so is that team!!! God had a much better plan!!! Just saying 😊😊😊
BTW: the so-called “more qualified candidate” left within a year!!!😂😂😂😂
I once got turned down for a role because "my experience didn't fit the needs of the role." Fair enough, you might think.
The kicker is, I had created the role at the company, and had done it for 18 months while they looked to backfill me (a consultant) to take it on an internal basis. The new person got let go and they went out to market, so I applied. I got the (obviously automated) response that my experience of having done the exact role at the exact company wasn't suitable. 😅
@@interestedbystander196 That's crazy!! Did you take it further?
@@shirleysp8176 I did get around the automated screener and told them about how their recruitment process was flawed. The role was paying (way) too little in the end, so I passed.
People complain that employees aren’t loyal anymore. But I see so many examples of myself and friends working towards a goal only for the company to hire someone externally.
People not being loyal is the fault of employers. Years of stupid decisions and now employers complain? Hahahahahahahaha
Only an idiot would be loyal to a large company in this day and age. Corporations evolved to be sociopathic narcicists and expect us to keep being loyal dumb dumbs cause that lets them wring out the most blood from our veins berore dumping us in the trash.
Years ago, I saved my company from being spec'ed out of a potentially large project. Large enough so that etiquette at the time said I should be safe for the next year short of sleeping with the boss's wife.
I was fired within six months.
Now a lot of stuff I do is password protected, or totally idiosyncratic to me, or dependent on some outside thing. And pretty undocumented. I also happen to keep tabs on competitors.
If we leave on good terms, no issue. Good luck if I have to pull a knife out of my back.
Yep - this!!! ⬆️
I think by loyal they mean door mats or afraid.
I don't blame Veronica 1 bit. She is not supposed to be experienced enough for a position that she has been working for 9 months? and you bring in a brand new person and they need training? If they're that good, they don't need training. The new person should have had Veronica's old position, so veronica could move up.
I hate to tell you this, but Veronica isn't a real person, she's a cartoon.
@@HattMoldais not that deep bro
@@kguile7832 That's not a sentence. What are you even saying? lol
Agreed!
@HattMolda She is a real person that's behind the voice. Also, this happens all the time. I've done it. What are you talking about?
Hires someone else who "has more experience," but needs to be trained by someone with "less experience" apparently. lol
Literally what I was thinking
yep he needs to get trained in the new company apparently 😂
Been there, told management nope, not training him. Then looked at them and asked what truck needed to be unloaded. Lol
I think this is why employees need to leave if they ever want to get promoted. But it’s an extremely wasteful way for corporations to operate
The corporations do it to themselves so they can just sit and steep in their wastefullness.
If you ever attend a managerial seminar you'll understand their 'logic'. Hiring from 'outside' ensures that the person in the authority position has NO ties to those under them, no friendships, no knowledge or care about family situations, health issues, nothing. They are 100% someone who doesn't know any of these people from a hole in the ground. So that means no sympathy, no empathy, no 'covering' for your friends, and no KNOWLEDGE about the issues, problems, or complaints about things on the 'floor' that someone 'elevated' might make a point to try and change/improve for their former coworkers, that MIGHT cost money, or alleviate enough stress to make them able to identify OTHER problems that might be more 'ingrained' or systemic, rather than just 'surviving the day' endlessly.
They want someone who is going to be EAGER to show to the COMPANY they can be the kind of Manager THEY want, so they're going to do everything they can to 'motivate' employees, and drive them harder without real regard to their wellbeing, morale, etc.
Now... We KNOW this is counter productive, that companies, work, and overall performance is enhanced when people care about their work environment beyond simple self interest or survival. However the 'risk' of costs to keep employees happy fills them with such FEAR, that they'd rather have 75% profits from 100 Million by ensuring nothing changes, than risking only getting 60% profits of 200K. Cause it isn't just numbers go up that they are concerned about, it's Percentages can't go down either. Even if it means MORE money, they still want their 'entitled' share of whatever that profit is, and that percentage going down to make more money is just as bad as LOSING money to them.
So they make sure that the only people going to most management positions ONLY think of the employees beneath them as 'assets' not people, not human beings, not even slaves, they are subhuman, tools, easily swapped out and replaced if they no longer work as intended, even if 'easily' is a stretch. Better to lose a good employee with impressive skills that hopes to improve things for their environment for a desperate College Student trying not to starve and will do anything so long as it pays. They even conducted a psychological evaluation on this a while back, many middle managers at various major companies after taking the test basically landed disturbingly high in Sociopathic Tendencies, aka people who fail to recognize other people as 'human'.
True! I got stuck in a position that I have a particular talent for and lost out on four or five promotions because of it. I finally said, "I was going to have to go in a different direction." Throwing their own words back in their face--- magically a "new" position (promotion) opened up for me before I could finish the notice period.
I learned this the hard way. I stayed about 8 years too long...
They never evaluate the cost of losing a trained and functional employee, loss of efficiency, loss of production due to training of the replacement and loss of production for the trainer. I have been through this as an ad hoc 'trainer'
_"So being good in my current role is hindering my growth in the company?"_ . That question hits like a freight train. There is no reasonable answer to that one.
This exact scenario happened to me. Now i didn't quit on the spot but I did stop at Men's Warehouse on the way home to purchase two new suits and immediately started a job search. I resigned 6-weeks later.
Smarter way to get it done.
Resigned six weeks later... with how much notice?
Spoken like someone who isn't a cartoon character. Good for you. Always aim for better.
@DaddyBeanDaddyBean who cares? they don't owe them the respect of two weeks.
@@chrisdonovan8795the cartoon is the front for a real person. that doesn't invalidate her experience.
"Oh its nothing against you."
Oh, it totally is against you.
If I’m not qualified for the position, then I’m not qualified to train the person who’s more qualified than me. Outstanding response!
This happened to me with a nonprofit I was running. When the old ED decided she needed to work fewer hours to be with her family, she suggested that I become her co-ED. The arrangement worked perfectly and we complemented each others' strengths. In addition, I had already run the nonprofit as the interim ED while she had taken maternity leave. When she decided to step away from the role completely, instead of hiring me outright to become the full ED, the board decided to do a search to hire externally. They allowed me to interview for the job I was already doing. They hired someone else who, as it turns out, lied about her fundraising experience (the only part of the job they felt I didn't have enough experience in). Two years later, they closed the doors of the nonprofit because their external hire ran it into the ground.
That's a feature, not a bug. All businesses get run into the ground to extract all the value. Then dump them and move on. That's what business majors *do*.
👍🏾👍🏾
The fact that this was a nonprofit makes it even more disappointing. But I'm not surprised... at all.
ED = Erectile Dysfunction? Most people don't know what ED means. You need to explain it.
@@christophernuckolls9964 In this scenario it means Executive Director. Broaden your horizons. Your comment is foolish.
This is literally the reason I'm quitting my job after 16 years.My last day is tomorrow.I got so sick and tired of being passed over for promotions.
Hope everything worked out for you!
Resigned in March while doing the jobs of 4 people and they said I was not meeting expectations. All that free work and they still had to stab me with a needs improvement. Hope they are enjoying doing my former job.
Ohh they knew what they were doing. If the creative dismissal didn't get you then they more than created a paper trail to make it seem like you weren't doing your job.
😢😪😭🙏🙏🙏🤞🤞🤞
I quit a job where I got meets for three years in a row with below average raises. They had to hire two people to sort of replace me. And they were both higher grade so the cost more too. All told about a 3:1 ratio when they were trying to save money
And I bet you were not getting four salaries or four hourly wages, you were under paid.
Oh of course. If you get all DOCUMENTED top marks on your performance reviews, then they would have to give you a promotion or raise. Even when there isn’t much work to do in the first place, they can always find something to mark as an “opportunity” so they can justify not advancing or rewarding you.
This happened to my uncle. He was in a managerial position, and the company brought in someone else, younger than him, and they wanted my uncle to train that replacement. He quit the next day
This happened to me, but it was a good thing. It was the push i needed. I ended up accepting a position at another company with a substantial pay raise. The look on the boss's face when i handed in my resignation is a core memory for me. LOL.
Yes!! Same here!!!!
That’s the only reason I’d take on additional duties or an acting title - for the NEXT job. I’d also demand these changes in writing before I took it as proof for future employers
Yup...!
Same happened to me a few years ago. I am now at the same level as my manager
Also happened to my sister too
I actually had this happen to me. The rage at the request was more than offset by the look on my dept. directors face when I said, " Could you be ANY more insulting?! I'm not qualified for the position, but I'm qualified to train someone to do it?! No."
I love that she put everything they say into an email
Document. Document. Document.
If it isn't written down, then it didn't happen, and your boss will take relentless advantage of this fact. Don't let them.
Se nd it somewhere they can't easily scrub it.
They didn't want to pay Veronica what she's actually worth and they rather low ball someone from the outside. Or it could be someone in management rather hire a family member or close family friend or associate.
Probably B
Facts
Mostly A in the health care field.
Sadly, they often pay the new person from the outside *an even higher salary*. In fact, leaving every 2-3 years is one of the best ways to increase your salary. After a decade, you'll be making (on average) about 25% more money.
And often (but not always), the new person is from a "higher" social class. People who come from certain families and who went to certain schools often *start* at the executive level. They do *not* work their way up.
The 2nd one!!!!!!!
My mom worked at a starbucks, same story, she had been acting manager for months without the pay. The Regional Manager brought in a new employee and ask my mom to "show the new gal the ropes" for the next few weeks. She did it. Turns out the this person was hired to be the new manager at that location and it seemed to have slipped thier minds to tell anyone until the woman's training was all done. My mom was heart broken, she walked out on the spot and didnt go back.
Really the entire staff should have walked.
omG, that sucks! that's the type shit that makes employees go nuts and burn shit to the ground. sorry to your mom.
"Reganal" lol
@@luvr381 thanks, fixed.
@@ScarlettR4364 your mom deserved better treatment but she could have reacted differently ( not take it as a personal affront ). Hope she finds a new position where she is appreciated and also gets satisfaction from her work. Your short reply above was classy, btw.
This happened to me. Never will I ever do this again. Companies do not care about their employees. It’s all about the money.
Do it for the experience. If they don’t promote you, quit and move on
@@Jar0fMay0 I did and I did quit.
@@emacias1980 good, hopefully you have a better paying job
Me too. Never did it again as well. We learn through experience, unfortunately. Thankfully we learned the lesson after the first time.
Yup - the only good thing is is you can put that title on your resume. Its totally truthful. Then you can leave those a h0l3s for a company who does value your worth.
Whoever writes these has been stalking my career for the past 25 years... Or is this foolishness just more common than I believed
More common
LOL!! We LOVE you Nicole! This comment cracked me up. So true, sadly.
THIS is the corporate world! Employees are nothing more than a commodity from which to derive maximum benefit to the organization at the minimum cost.
Go with option 2. 😂
Horror stories like this are a dime a dozen, sadly. People brought to tears, left burnt out, and/or left in a spiraling state of self abuse... all that to say, it's definitely more common across the US.
Reminds me of the best advice I was ever given regarding you job that came from my own mother: “Never become irreplaceable in your job. If you can’t be replaced, you can’t be promoted.”
Knock knock, it's your future AI replacement
Well, it's not so sound advice in a technical skills-based job. Promotion isn't always the goal in these fields, just more pay. So, each job needs a different strategy based on the goal that one is motivated toward.
Oh, and no Ai can do my job of physically fixing the machines, so even the machines have to respect me.
These "Veronica Videos" are a good reminder of why it's important to save and invest, have a solid emergency fund.
Employment is a minefield.
Strive for getting FU money saved.
It’d be nice if they give the original creator credit.
@@fabicorona13 who's the original creator? I saw similar comments on several of the Veronica videos.
Buy bitcoin
That's easy to say in a white collar job, but not so simple if you're a front line employee working three crappy jobs to stay afloat.
Don't always need FU 'money'.
Veronica and her husband might have just paid off their house. It would be so satisfying to hear her say 'goodbye, corporate world. It's been crap.'
I have been in this position too many times. In each, I refused to not only train the person that got the promotion because they were easier to replace, but I also refused to review their work before it was released. Let everyone see those that received the promotion can't do the work.
Edit: I also always refused to be an "acting" anything.
"Let everyone see those that received the promotion can't do the work." These are wise words. I'm going to follow this advice when school starts. Thanks.
I quit the corporate world a year ago to become my very own boss ❤ BUT damn Veronica makes me wanna go back just to serve them those priceless lines!
This happened to me in the past once, but they told me the new person would be my partner to ease the load. I trained them up, then found out they were my supervisor. …it’s very difficult to not turn into a supervillain
This is your origin story... Be an amazing super Villian in their story While they are the foolish clowns in your story.
When this happened to me I immediately jumped ship and proceeded to extract the best of the company employees 1 by 1 (I’d contact them directly or via mutual contacts) into roles within my new company via recommendation. Got hefty recruitment bonuses too for my efforts meaning I was essentially paid for exacting my personal revenge against my unscrupulous former employer. The cherry on top of my two-tier vengeance cake was when approx 2 years later whose name & CV should I see in my inbox for a senior specialist role but my former manager. Used an almost- verbatim sentence he had used on me when denying me the role I was already working to notify him that he was unsuccessful in his application 😌.
If you’re reading this Paul, you’re a tosspot & remembering fucking you over as you did to me always puts a big old smile on my face even on the shittiest of days.
@@beverlyvantull8452 I agree whole heartedly! I can't wait to read about how your arc develops 👏🏾🤌🏾
This makes me so angry.
Hey, even super villains wear capes sometimes. You might be the villain in their eyes, but you could be the hero to everyone else including yourself.
99% of jobs are like this. Quit when you can as they won't blink to fire you.
Amen! Right to work state rights benefit the employee as well.
I've seen this with teacher assistants. They work as hard as a teacher. They go to night school to earn their teaching degree. But when they apply for a teaching position at the school they have worked for years, the school hires someone outside, even from another city. The school wants the TA to remain a TA, rather than rewarding them for their experience and effort. Betrayed.
Its why I recommend everyone get out of education. I did 13 years, was up for Tenure 5 times, brought schools from 85% fail rate on the state exam to less than 5% fail rate five times. My reward? Non renewed. 5 times. Each time it was always the day before I'd get tenure.
Get out of education. They don't want good teachers.
As someone who used to work for the department of education I totally agree with you. It doesn’t make any sense but that’s usually what they do.
I’m a retired TA & it does happen we do all the work of a teacher & get passed over. sad
Had this happen to me once in retail. Was doing all manager duties except schedule and hiring/firing. The stock room was a disaster when I got there. I worked my @ss off on it, sorted, logged and shipped out SO MUCH old inventory our dm was shocked was even there. Had it organized and running smooth within a few months. Trained employees in loss prevention, sales, etc.
They hired a woman who had worked at Nordstrom management, expected me to train her. She was nice, we got along well even after I told her no, I wouldn't be cleaning/organizing the mess she made of the back desk (it seemed like she expected I'd be her PA, instead of assistant mngr). But I was highly resentful that I wasn't given management of the store. I thought I'd more than proved myself capable. The only reason I stayed was that another manager in a different, much larger store wanted me to be her assistant. That was a good move for me, and I learned a ton, but if it hadn't been for her, they'd have lost me.
RETAIL. So....much....fuckery. Your experience sounds a bit like mine when I was working for Pier One Imports. The regional managers there screwed up royally. One of the store managers that hired me, Lucy, got things done. She was tough, but fair, but not in that bitchy kind of way. Wonderful to work with, got along with everyone. She also doubled as the store's visual coordinator when the store had to transition from one season to the next. When we had to transition from Fall into Christmas, Lucy's mother fell ill, and couldn't come in. After a back and forth between her and the regional managers, Lucy quit, and set off a chain of events that resulted in the store's closure.
First, half of the sales associates, and the entire stock crew quit out of loyalty to her. Turns out, those associates and the stock crew had previously worked with Lucy at the Children's Place, and she hired them all into Pier One.
Second, the remaining manager, Keith, was promoting sales associates to manager AGAINST THEIR WILL because nobody wanted to be Lucy's replacement. So once a sales associate got promoted, THEY quit.
Third, instead of hiring a new stock crew, Keith decided that the remaining associates were going to double as the stock crew (but would yell at the associates for having to go into the stock room), train the new associates hired (a managerial duty), and gather the day's receipts - another managerial duty. We demanded more pay for more work, he refused, and we walked - leaving him with just a few new associates who didn't know what the hell they were doing. The regional managers then relocated Keith and those new associates to other stores throughout the city, and "temporarily" closed our store for the purpose of hiring new store managers, new associates, and a new stock crew. It never re-opened, and the location became a BCBG Max Azria store, less than 2 years after Lucy quit.
That was basically me. I got rehired with the company (I worked for them 10 years ago) as a part time keyholder (which was the job I had 10 years ago as well). But the manager of the store was running two stores and only allowed an assistant manager at the other location. So we had a part time manager, no assistant, oh and he didn't really do much when he was at our location anyway. Then he decided to take several weeks off during Christmas and New Years. And he didn't make up all the schedules before he left either.
So as the person with the most experience (and the one who had trained literally everyone he had hired), I stepped up and kept the store running smoothly. I made up the schedules, although I had to do it all by hand as I didn't have access to the scheduling software. He comes back and I found myself having to continue to do a lot of things that he should have been doing as manager. I had already talked to the DM over Christmas and he'd said the situation was temporary and that eventually our manager would go back to his other location and they'd be looking for a manager for our location - he said I was his first choice.
So when I called up the DM at the end of January cuz I was tired of doing the work of an ASM without the pay, I was gaslit and told that all the stuff I had been doing were "store-wide" tasks and that they weren't specific to managers (assistant or otherwise). When I said I was at the point of wanting to quit, he told me I was easily replaceable. So I told him to replace me. I walked out that afternoon.
A month later, I noticed that the store almost never seemed to be open. I texted the only person still there that I knew about it - that the store only seemed to be open when she was there. An hour later, I got a call from the District Manager offering me the manager position. Guess I wasn't so replaceable after all, huh?
Veronica is my hero. I experienced this exact same thing more than once. Just hearing the phrase "we are going in a different direction" gives me PTSD.
I did this same exact thing one time. Best thing I ever did. The company flipped out as I was the only one doing my job and had no clue what or how I did what I did. They started offering me increases out the wazu and then got real upset when they finally realized that I had no intention of working 2 more weeks, they truly thought I was giving them 2 weeks notice, lol. I was told by people still there that several of the senior managers were let go after that as they had a timeline to meet on a project I was part of that did not get done. It was glorious. I eventually was contacted by a Sr Manager asking if I would like to discuss coming back, and when I said not if I had to work for the same management team, they told me that would not be an issue, so that confirmed what I was told. I still did not go back. I found a new job in less than 3 weeks and was much happier.
The ENTIRE truth of that was when she was told she was 'too good in her current position'. Everything else hinged on that ONE fact.
You go girl!
My company did that to me.
Told me I was going to be a manager, said I was an assistant manager, gave me 6 people to train, 6 months later, one comes back to my location saying he was the manager now and that I need to step down down and be a regular worker.
I did.
Then got fired for not helping him with questions from my coworkers.
I told him it’s not my job to help.
It was his. That’s why I was demoted.
So he fired me.
Called it gross insubordination. In other words I talked back to him by saying No, that’s not my job.
So yep, leave and make them come to you for help. You can then get the raise and position you want.
0:49 Veronica has more experience, shes been doing the job for 9 months, the other person would be brand new...
100% the reason the new person is being brought in is because they are cheaper. Every time. Or they know someone.
Same thing happened to me. I was told the only reason I didn't get the job was because they required a 4 yr. degree. SOOOOOO......... I took advantage of the tuition assistance they offered (at that time 100% plus books). Started looking outside 2 mos. before graduation, got a job and resigned 3 weeks after I got my last reimbursement check. Eventually earned my MBA thanks to another generous education assistance program at another employer and through the course of time I'm now over 6.5x my original, pre-bachelor's salary. I owe my old company a thanks for finally giving me the motivation and the funding I needed to finally do what I needed to do.
This happened to me when i was working at a Urgent Care Clinic. I was head MA and then they hired someone else externally and said she had more credentials and wanted me to train her on how to use the EMR system, EKG machine, X-Ray machine and so forth. I laughed and took my badge off nicely placed it on the desk and walked out. They blew my phone up wanting me to come back. Absolutely not get somebody qualified to do it 😁✌🏽
I once resigned from a position for mental health reasons, they refused because they couldn't replace me. So I quit entirely. Employers never learn.
I was working my current job as a contractor instead of working for the owners of the building (at the time) and i was wanting the job i was already doing but one other person was interested in it (because it was Monday through Friday) and they did work for the owners of the building and those people get first crack at new positions first, and i was asked that if they were interested in the position if i would train them. My only response to that was "are you asking the turkey to set the table at Thanksgiving?"
I know the pain. I was hired as an assistant manager for one branch and asked to go to another branch where the manager had quit. The branch was losing over $50,000 a month when I arrived. Within 3 months I had turned it around to making $100,000 profit a month and it was growing. On the 4th month, they hired a new manager from outside the company.
I was asked to stay there, I was poached by a competing company and sent to a store as an assistant manager which was losing over $50,000 a month. I was told I would be next in line for the managers job. Within 3 months, I had turned it into over $150,000 profit per month. They hired a new manager externally and they couldn’t understand why I left the company.
These animations really resonate as I’ve had so many similar conversations over the years. Many people in senior management positions are completely incompetent and it’s obvious why many companies are failing.
I am glad Veronica is resigning!!!
I wouldn’t have done it right away but I would’ve done the same
"well if she's more experienced than me then i cant train her, nor would i need to"
That is classic. Wish I thought of it when I needed it.
This happened to me. I still don't understand why.
I was distraught, so made the decision to hand in my notice (it was 4 weeks). I had so much annual leave that I barely worked as they were forced to give me all my days, I declined to train the new lady as I had to sort out the other teams, orders etc. I found out that everything went down hill within 3 months as a few of my colleagues were upset on my behalf and thought if I were treated like that, so would they be so they found other jobs quickly and left. The lady didn't know what she was doing, so a few others left as she was trying to dump her responsibilities into them. The lady then complained that this is three people job, so they hired another manager and then manager left and others left in droves. Apparently the other teams were trying to contact me, but I had changed my number by then
should have taken their calls but then charged them consulting rates.
@@hengineerThank you for your comment. That is a very good idea and the extra income would have certainly helped. I hope other people read your comment so they can gain
@anony1312 Dont beat yourself up. Its all about the money. You were awesome and had experience, so you could command more money for the position. So they hire someone from the outside or promote someone with less experience so they can work them harder and pay them less. So basically - its a back-handed complement. You are basically punished for being a great employee.
"We're going in a different direction". So am I. Like out the door. And it won't be hitting me in the ass on the way out.
I think COVID showed a lot of people their jobs didn’t give a damn about them...and companies are wondering why people won’t go back to work. People are tired of the bs and can be at peace working from home.
Who are they working from home for if not companies?
Are you aware working from home has been noted in a recent study out of Stanford to reduce productivity by 20%?
@@tjmarxpeople started their own companies. I know several who did exactly that.
I'm sure there are plenty of "articles" stating a reduction in productivity. I don't know anyone who worked less when they work from home. We all work harder.
Ok@@anonymoose116 🤣
People did not en masse create their own companies.
A study isn't an article.
Anecdote is not evidence.
Come back when you have something insightful to say
@@tjmarx okay 🤣🤣🤣
They literally did.
I don't think you know how dead on you are with this statement... it's the truth.
I was on the ground floor of a manufacturing shop. I was the de facto shop foreman, teaching welding and assembly to the new employees while working with a company representative to set up the equipment.
Once things were running and the product was going out the door, I was to receive a title and pay raise.
Imagine my shock when one of the men I trained announced they had just been promoted to foreman. It had nothing to do with his dad being the union rep for the plant.
All companies want 100% of your loyalty but give 0% loyalty in return. They will drop you like a hot potato.
Veronica's voice is so calm. I LOVE it!! ❤
She hood; luv it. U know she’s gonna key her car
Veronica is teaching work-place boundaries and I'm here for it! 👏 Way to go Veronica!
“So being good at my current role is hindering my growth in the company?”
SO REAL
It’s like being in a foster home and doing all the chores and getting good grades, but a new kid with bad attitude is adopted because ‘they need a family more than you do’.
Ouch, little brother. That sounds like experience. I hope you're doing well now.
😢💔 how heartbreaking 💔
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This is one I 100% agree with. It has happened to me many times of the years. The few times I stayed to train the person I was let go afterward. When I was younger, I took the "but you're so good in your current position" as a compliment...it is NOT a compliment.
Sadly, this is how most companies work. Especially large corporations. "If it doesn't make sense, then THAT'S the way we will do it!" .... Ugh! 🙄
“We’re going in another direction”
“Yeah, down.”
I had a job where i trained the majority of the staff. This profession (medical transcription) started to break one large department into several smaller ones, and if you wanted to move to another "department" (exact same job though) you had to reapply. Myself, along with everyone i trained, applied, and everyone except me got hired for a particular sub-department, including a person fresh out of school. The kicker though, was the letter I received saying i wasn't hired in this new department because they hired people with more experience than me. It was all BS; I trained these people! Needless to say, it worked in my favor in the end because after a few short years, the sub-department was dissolved, and everyone was let go except me, because i was still in the old department. I stayed long enough to get them pay for my college, then left. 👌
I won a sales contest, a trip to Orlando. A month later I was told the trip was cancelled because the company didn't meet their profitability goals, and that I "should just understand." I didn't understand. Not only that, my pay was cut. I couldn't quit on the spot but I quit with a new job two months later. Companies are not your family, they will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat. I work for myself now.
I knew someone who was an interim principal, did a great job, and didn't even get an interview for the permanent position. He left the district and took a principal position somewhere else. It was a clear sign his own district would never give him a principalship. He made a great choice
I was injured in the line of duty. The mayor immediately informed me there was no light duty available ( there was). I told him I had to do about a week of evidence prep an court prep. 4 days in he attempted to write me up for being out of uniform ( my medical brace wouldn’t fit over uniform parts the material was too slick so I wore jeans while working in my office). On the fifth day he came in at noon and wanted to know if I was done yet… so I said yep. Shut down the computer and went home. Every day for the next week they tried calling for something… nope sorry no light duty available remember.
These are so dead-on, how management screws workers over...!
I came back into a job as a specialist… there were other “specialists” without my credentials. They made me attend a fair put on by the department. as I went table to table all the employees were like “ but you taught me about the product way back”… I was like “just sign my form”. I stayed as they were paying me well but I realized no loyalty was earned or given. Whatever, I left after it served my purposes and blindsided the director with my resignation.
This happened to me because the outside hire had such great ideas on how to increase revenue for our business. Once he started, his "great idea" was to use my ideas to increase revenue. He was a nice guy...he gave me credit for everything, but it made me mad enough that I left...and ended up with a 2 level higher title and 60% higher pay at the new place.
Thanks for sharing!
So classic...having to train someone that got the job that youve been doing...
Crab: usually, the new hire gets paid less ...
Years ago when there was a downtown Chicago Radio Shack an assistant manager position opened. Even after increasing sales over 125% in six weeks by selling calculators to the college I was told I wouldn’t be given the job because women have children! He then asked me to train the guy who had no experience, no college, nothing! He didn’t get trained and when the new manager found out why no one would even speak to him he quit!
Um, that is HIGHLY illegal. You cannot discriminate someone because of children, family, etc. Please tell me you sued the sit outta him.
PS. Im also HIGHLY in love with you right now because Radio Shack was my FAVORITE place!! ROFL!!
@@tellurye Worse I quit as did the current assistant manager. I was an associate and had been working at another store and was transferred. When the new guy found out why no one would train him he quit too! They closed weeks later!
This happends in the State of Oregon DMV And DHS offices!!!! Hahahahah only Friends and Family get promoted 🤣
If they shot down your only opportunity for advancement then what is even the point of staying. It's just a dead end job
Wow, I hope this doesn’t mean Veronica is out of our lives now. Please get another job soon so we can watch you put people in their place. You’re teaching us so much.
I don't know why Veronica popped up in my feed, but I love that she did.
Yes to all of this! 😅😊
Aaaand, if Veronica had been offered the position, it would have come with at best a 5% raise, while the new hire came in at 20-30% more than she is making. These corporations don't give a SHEEEEEIT about loyalty, integrity or work ethic. Jump ship every 2 years, and make sure you get a 15-20% raise each time. In 10 years you will have more than doubled your current salary. DO IT.
Wow this exact thing, right down to the length of time, happened to a lady at my last job. After 9 months of filling the management role without the management pay, they hired a manager with zero experience and made her train him. She immediately jumped ship. I hope she's doing well
Never do train anyone to do a job you are doing when there is only one position available.
Never take on a higher position without increased pay.
If you have low self esteem or none at all, please work on yourself, because you will have no one, who will fight your corner at work more than you.
Find a GOOD union.
Don't work unpaid, the odd 5 - 10 mons but never more than that.
Don't presume your colleagues are your friends.
Don't presume HR care for you.
These are mistakes that I had to learn the hard way and it is heart breaking. Your time can never be replaced.
0:49 if she has more experience, then why Veronica has to train her?
I feel like in this one she shoukda said that fine but ill take the raise at my current job position.
I LOVE that you tagged the actual owner of this voice. Thank you for doing that. 🙏
Oh you're going in a different direction? Well I'm going in a different direction too. Except my direction leads straight out the door. Buh-bye.
.. THE NERVE OF SOME COMPANIES AND THEIR SUPERVISORS! .. This is for certain a clear indication on some level of NEPOTISM .. Verónica's actions of turning in her resignation "EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY" is a wonderful touch at the end for me .. because after proving way beyond a shadow of a doubt that she's more than capable and qualified to handle a managerial position, and they decide to go with someone outside the company, a person that NEEDS extensive training? .. Yeah, it's because of some level of NEPOTISM! .. Unfortunately, I've seen this level of disrespect and ungrateful acts too many times ...
I worked for a federally funded college. The director hired family members. She got away with it by making her second in command....and lap dog, do the hiring. She hired her daughter, mother, son, ex-boyfriend's kids (through the lap dog) and nobody did squat about it. They kept shaving off my salary so her kids could get bonuses around Christmas. I didn't keep records, so I couldn't sue. Keep in mind, I was the best instructor there, according to student reviews. At least the college closed. But the program they work for still lives on. I'm still furious.
I got that too. Somebody's kid just graduated so they're going to give them a managerial role and pretend that they're more qualified than the person that they're taking the job from.
@@OfficialSeth 😡
Yup. This happened to a very hard working coworker of mine. She was not given the TL position because the 'ideal candidate' is friends with the CEO's son, so they decided to give the woman that is friends with CEO's son the position instead, because ✨️NEPOTISM POWER✨️ But the joke is this lady is very incompetent and does not work hard. She is a horrible employee but she is protected because...
✨️NEPOTISM POWER✨️
Should never have accepted the acting role, Veronica. They lied to you and they never intended to give the position to you. They got 9 months of work at a higher level and didnt pay you what you were worth. Thats why you never accept a dangled carrot.
Act your wage.
Facts!!! On the flip side she gain additional experience and can bring more leverage to the next company or work for herself..either way Veronica still winning ❤
That and she could probably go to the labor board and insist that She is owed back pay for the last 9 months for performing tasks and duties that are above her position within the company
I liked that last part. ❤
I really really love that last sentence and am going to use it.
Love the pun Act your age.
Don't let you be an employee who has been there thru all the trials & tribulations of the company they really gone overlook you. I remember when years at the same workplace meant something now it's like you might as well just started.
Had a similar thing happen to me. I ended up thanking them for the push to early retirement.
Thanks Veronica. Now I don't feel so alone...
This kind of crap is exactly why I left the office environment and became an industrial welder. Never been happier.
Dont ever quit just do nothing while you look for another job.
I told one boss I had a doctors appointment, came back and gave a weeks notice. Said I'd got some rough news, wanted to take some time and figure some things out.
What happened was I was hired off the first interview for a better job.
Never got the backpay I was owed but who cares now.
This happened in a corporate office that I worked in 40 yrs ago to someone in a different department than mine. It was then that I knew I didn't want to be there anymore.
The sick games companies will play.
Exactly! Do not stand for a company that does not appreciate you. There's tons of companies out there looking for qualified people who will take care of you.
I was actually in this position. I was seconded as manager, had been doing the role for almost a year. They hired a guy and expected me to train him. I also resigned
I have seen this before. This is a setup by management to let go of Veronica. After training her replacement she would be let go as being "over qualified and redundant" for her current position. The big clue is that if you haven't been promoted in 60 days of "acting" in a position they are using it as a way for you to find your next position and giving you a "bump" to get you out. Take the hint and go.
Thanks😢
Not.
Certainly it could be that.
But the other possibility, which often happens is exactly what HR mentioned. You're too good at the current role, which is why they don't want to promote you or do anything to allow you to move out of it.
When you're as loyal as a dog, expect to be treated like a dog.
I had this experience happened to me, was not selected for the management position they hired someone else and then expect me to train that person. More or less told them to shove it. Bought my time and left at the busiest time of the year a few months later!
I experienced many of the scenarios depicted in this series during my working years. However, if I - or anyone else - had responded the way Veronica does in many of these videos I/they would have been either fired outright or the employer would have found a way to facilitate my/their exit including making stuff up, fake bad reviews, etc. I watched it happen over and over to people during the course of my career.
Sending these to my daughter - KNOW YOUR SELF-WORTH!
I THOUGHT WE WERE A FAMILY, JANET!
"'Family?' So, in other words, you wanted to use emotional blackmail without repercussions?"
I refused to train my replacement when she was dumb enough to tell me she received a wage increase. Nothing they did about it...i am sure she was fine😂😂😂
I'm not qualified for the position but want me to train my replacement ⁉️⁉️ these videos are exactly what is wrong with a lot of these jobs!!
This happened to my son:s fiancee. She trained 2 young men in her department and then the bank promoted them over her. Then she trained a new hire, a woman, who was promoted after she completed their training. Then she quit and went down the street to a different bank and got hired at a higher position with more pay. When will management wake up?😂
The bank she quit at still continued on as business as usual so she wasn't that critical to their day to day operations, but I don't know it could have been a different story if she quit before the new hires. I'm not at all downplaying the role your son's fiancee played in her old job, but I'm just being realistic on how corporations view it's employees as expendable pawns.
As the Peter’s Principle states - ‘People are promoted to their level of incompetence’. Middle Managers who do these things to other workers this KNOW they’re not good enough to get any higher, so protect their position at the expense of everyone else. All the issues I’ve had in my workplaces are with middle managers, not bosses or beginners. Middle managers get so far then no further due to their own incompetences, and they know this inside so all their actions reflect this fear of being found out.
Management may have felt jealous or threatened if she was very good at her job
Bam right there. If you're going to tell me to my face that I'm not qualified for a position that I've been acting in for several months, then you can be sure as hell that I'm not qualified to train anyone. The conversation is now over