I seen em on this tour. Comments from friends still irk me when they say "I liked Load". You can like whatever you want but you just dont get Metallica unless seeing them on the Damage Inc tour. And this is from a musician's point of view.....and trying to convey your band to do innovative music.
@@offtherealm5438 you gotta keep in mind that not everyone was old enough or even born to have been able to see Metallica live in this era. I had just turned nine when this concert took place, plus I live in Australia 🇦🇺 and Metallica never even set foot in the Southern Hemisphere before 1989.
@russkate88 I meant musician friends that were my own age. Load had good songs. But that can't compare to me and my Army buddies being blown out of the fucking water on the MoP tour! And in a tiny concert hall at that. Life changing event for me....just trying to share my passion bro.
Really I do not understand, how and why weren't there a profesional camera team recording this amazing and bestial metal show of the Best Metal band of the world called METALLICA? this is ver unforgiveable... thanks to the fans that would récord this jewel alice from Metallica!
This was back when only myself and about four others in my high school even knew who they were. I was the only guy in my high school who wore a Jean jacket with Metallica patches all over it. I used to collect rare Metallica albums back then. I still have my collection stored away somewhere... it’s composed of Different colored vinyl albums of Creeping Death & Jump in the Fire as well as picture discs of the first three albums and whiplash, bootleg concert recordings (including Cliff’s last show), interview picture discs, double LP’s, etc... all purchased back in the late 80s. I remember When AJFA came out, we had about 10-15 more students in the school that suddenly became fans. I knew things would never be the same from that point on. Once they hit the mainstream and became popular (pretty much from 1990 and on), I pretty much lost interest, as the nostalgia of being in that small exclusive club of fans was gone. But I still like to reminisce once in a while.
Especially considering they had their Metalhammer Fest gig professionally recorded in 1985 aswell as their 1983 Illinois show. I would have loved to see close ups and multiple camera angles of the band, including shots from behind the drum kit because the set up Lars had in the Lightning and Puppets era's were the best set-ups he ever had.
I saw them in April of '86 in Rochester NY opening for Ozzy, when Cliff was still in the band. They were fast and awesome...Then I saw them in Dec '86 in Toronto and I thought someone slipped me some drugs, because it was like they were playing so much faster...Like a 33 rpm record turned up to 45 rpm lol...
I'm thinking it could have been a combination of 2 things that make sense to me. Cliff was like an older brother to look up to,, and they likely deferred to him. They all lost that, and James figured he needed to be that leader for the band after Cliff's loss, so he just took it to a new level. This was shortly after Cliff's death. After the childhood trauma, his dad leaving, his mom dying, this may have felt like a last straw kind of thing for him. His actions on the stage are pure rage and fury. I imagine he was hopped up on a lot of booze, and took a very aggressive and 'f it' attitude.
@@ktgo4424 That makes a lot of sense...I forgot to mention the Toronto show was with Jason Newstead, after Cliff died in that bus accident...They were all probably pissed and taking it out on stage...
@thequebee_0101 Are you kidding me? If you genuinely believe that it was only lars and kirk that was smashing cocain, you've got another thing coming 🤣
When you play like this for a while, it'll genuinely give you exactly that. But cmon, you've got one thing coming if you think their not on high quality cocain. 86' was their hay day for partying
@mrchallenges1news I think I've probably played creeping death, down picking to completion with no hesitation once. And only once. Other than that, I'll find myself alternate picking here and there to stop myself from straining. Once you begin to feel the strain in your hand, you're screwed. Gotta be relaxed as possible. But hey, even James throws in the odd alternate picking in certain phrases to compete with straining
@@williamdickson3409 they didn't do cocaine in the eighties contrary to what everyone believes. They only drank, but Lars and Kirk did cocaine in the mid nineties.
No, Kirk is down picking as well, he just has a smaller range of motion when he does it. Part of that is how they differ in holding their guitar picks. James will always be regarded as one of the best (THE best?) when it comes to down picking, but Kirk has been right there matching him note for note. Less precise, but still right there
I love shows like this, just the band, stage and lights. Today I think your money goes towards the "show" and it takes away from the music. Years ago there were no phones or distractions just music. I miss those days....😢
Lol i still have the marty friedman hot licks vhs tape from when i was 13 learning how to play his exotic scales. Marty has aged extremely well. His phrasing and vibrato very unique.
@@Bobsyourunclebro THAT'S... THE REASON. It must be ignorant in music, or very stupid, to believe that drugs works in speed or in anything in music. IT'S PRACTICE... Drugs only KILLING you, ask Nick Menza, just for example.
So, it looks like Jason is playing with them here and not Cliff, so what would the timeline be for this show? It would have to be after 1986, or at least, no earlier than late November/December of that year? Cliff had passed away in September, so I wouldn't expect they'd be ready to play shows so soon afterwards, with all the auditions, rehearsals, and what not? Either way, the utterly crushed it here. This is the sound of a band that really doesn't exist anymore. With all due respect to millennial -era Metallica (who do have some good songs, to be fair) time has moved on...
That time when Ulrich could still play the drums, and Hammett was already making mistakes on the guitar. In general, they keep the pace cool, one and a half times faster. On bass so already Newsted.
Everyone thinks they were on blow at this time but the lyrics in this song are literally mocking cocaine and heroin users. I’m sure he’s done some blow in his day but not likely at this time
After watching the first 15 seconds, I looked over at my guitar, and it just looked back at me, rolled its eyes, and said "Keep dreaming, buddy."
People always say Seattle 89 but Toronto 86 is just on another level
LMFAO no doubt
" Keep *PRACTICING.* buddy..."
this is faster than Seattle 1989 :)
If the 86 shows were pro shot and recorded accurately the show could've been better than Seattle 89' who knws:)
Yes.
Why Master Of Puppets tour video in 1986-1987 was not in pro shot?
@augustinelaseh5078 They either didn't think about doing that kind of shit by then or couldn't afford it
@@williamdickson3409Nagoya ‘86 show is here on TH-cam, video and audio look great, I think that was a pro shot but didn’t get released till later.
This show was First Metallica concert I ever went to. First of many.
I was there too. There's not a bad song on the set. Opener Metal Church was good, too.
I seen em on this tour. Comments from friends still irk me when they say "I liked Load". You can like whatever you want but you just dont get Metallica unless seeing them on the Damage Inc tour. And this is from a musician's point of view.....and trying to convey your band to do innovative music.
@@offtherealm5438 you gotta keep in mind that not everyone was old enough or even born to have been able to see Metallica live in this era.
I had just turned nine when this concert took place, plus I live in Australia 🇦🇺 and Metallica never even set foot in the Southern Hemisphere before 1989.
@russkate88 I meant musician friends that were my own age. Load had good songs. But that can't compare to me and my Army buddies being blown out of the fucking water on the MoP tour! And in a tiny concert hall at that. Life changing event for me....just trying to share my passion bro.
@@trevorfrettsome5074was it at Maple Leaf Gardens …..seen them first time at Maple Leaf Gardens Justice For All tour April 7 1989
I’ve played this song a million times on guitar. Try to play along to this version and it’s like I’ve never held a guitar before. Stupid fast 🤘🏻
With practice it becomes zero effort , I can loop entire song for hours at this speed
try it at X2 speed thats fast af
Stockholm '86 is much faster
10 seconds in and my arthritis kicks in hahaha
Have you tried doing a fat line of cocaine first?
Faster of Puppets
I wish the cameraman filmed james while he was doing his solo. But not many people probably knew that james had a solo in it at the time
FASTER! FASTER!
Yeah, I truly believe that not many people knew it was his solo. I thought it was Kirk until I saw Cliff Em All
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Really I do not understand, how and why weren't there a profesional camera team recording this amazing and bestial metal show of the Best Metal band of the world called METALLICA? this is ver unforgiveable... thanks to the fans that would récord this jewel alice from Metallica!
Because Metallica couldn't afford to do stuff like that at the time.
In 1986 they weren't the megaband they are today....
This was back when only myself and about four others in my high school even knew who they were. I was the only guy in my high school who wore a Jean jacket with Metallica patches all over it. I used to collect rare Metallica albums back then. I still have my collection stored away somewhere... it’s composed of Different colored vinyl albums of Creeping Death & Jump in the Fire as well as picture discs of the first three albums and whiplash, bootleg concert recordings (including Cliff’s last show), interview picture discs, double LP’s, etc... all purchased back in the late 80s. I remember When AJFA came out, we had about 10-15 more students in the school that suddenly became fans. I knew things would never be the same from that point on. Once they hit the mainstream and became popular (pretty much from 1990 and on), I pretty much lost interest, as the nostalgia of being in that small exclusive club of fans was gone. But I still like to reminisce once in a while.
Especially considering they had their Metalhammer Fest gig professionally recorded in 1985 aswell as their 1983 Illinois show. I would have loved to see close ups and multiple camera angles of the band, including shots from behind the drum kit because the set up Lars had in the Lightning and Puppets era's were the best set-ups he ever had.
I saw them in April of '86 in Rochester NY opening for Ozzy, when Cliff was still in the band. They were fast and awesome...Then I saw them in Dec '86 in Toronto and I thought someone slipped me some drugs, because it was like they were playing so much faster...Like a 33 rpm record turned up to 45 rpm lol...
I'm thinking it could have been a combination of 2 things that make sense to me.
Cliff was like an older brother to look up to,, and they likely deferred to him. They all lost that, and James figured he needed to be that leader for the band after Cliff's loss, so he just took it to a new level.
This was shortly after Cliff's death. After the childhood trauma, his dad leaving, his mom dying, this may have felt like a last straw kind of thing for him. His actions on the stage are pure rage and fury. I imagine he was hopped up on a lot of booze, and took a very aggressive and 'f it' attitude.
@@ktgo4424 That makes a lot of sense...I forgot to mention the Toronto show was with Jason Newstead, after Cliff died in that bus accident...They were all probably pissed and taking it out on stage...
My hands is surrender watching that downpicking from james
c o c a i n e
@@edoardo8269 kirk did coke but not james, he only drank booze
@@edoardo8269 I don’t think James has ever done any drugs. Just copious amounts of beer.
@thequebee_0101 Are you kidding me? If you genuinely believe that it was only lars and kirk that was smashing cocain, you've got another thing coming 🤣
@@jacoblopez517cliff on the other hand got arrested with Scott Ian of Anthrax for weed
i guess its the first time that i see kirk playing the same solo as in the album
The definition of carpal tunnel
When you play like this for a while, it'll genuinely give you exactly that. But cmon, you've got one thing coming if you think their not on high quality cocain. 86' was their hay day for partying
Creeping death is worse to play for me idk why. It was the first time my wrist hurt playing guitar when I was play along to the normal recording.
@mrchallenges1news I think I've probably played creeping death, down picking to completion with no hesitation once. And only once. Other than that, I'll find myself alternate picking here and there to stop myself from straining. Once you begin to feel the strain in your hand, you're screwed. Gotta be relaxed as possible. But hey, even James throws in the odd alternate picking in certain phrases to compete with straining
@@williamdickson3409 they didn't do cocaine in the eighties contrary to what everyone believes. They only drank, but Lars and Kirk did cocaine in the mid nineties.
How tf does he downpick that lol
Practice
lmao ahhahahaha😂😂😂😂
Holding pick with two fingers (index and middle) and thumb.
He's not he goes up and down it's a myth that he goes just down its bullshit some slower songs maybe but not this one humanly impossible
@ManaBlack208 you can literally see it in the video that he's downpicking lol
Thanks I was at this show 🤘🏻
Its so funny hearing him before he developed that "YEAH" we all know. 2:20 you could hear a something where it would go today
Edit: 2:02
I don't hear it@@bryantsteury8910
The first Yeah's are coming through 6:45
Guitar work is great but the give the vocals some credit too! James sounds awesome here!
Already with Jason.
damn. this version of the solo.
james added that very intense bend that wasn't on the studio version.
amazing.
This must have been Jason's first show after the passing of Cliff. His hair is crazy
Great show Metal Church opened for them........
Wow, James was starting to acquire the vocal embellishments of the Black Album as early as 1986.
Aswell as the power stance.
RIP Cliff
When Metallica was Metallica
If people say seattle 89 is fast, they have never watched this
Seattle 89 doesn’t touch this show. They’re are just totally out of control here.
That was fast but this just took it to another level.
Это великая супер группа❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I saw this tour in Austin at The Erwin Center. They opened for Ozzy.
I long for the 80's. The best time ever. 🤘
We thought they would last forever...
James is playing down picking and Kirk alternate? Can someone help me figure this out?
James is a lot better at it and kirk can't keep up quite as well
No, Kirk is down picking as well, he just has a smaller range of motion when he does it. Part of that is how they differ in holding their guitar picks. James will always be regarded as one of the best (THE best?) when it comes to down picking, but Kirk has been right there matching him note for note. Less precise, but still right there
When Metallica rules the world!
Faster of Puppets!!
Faster!!
Faster!!
Faster of Puppets im pulling your strings..
That's like 300bpm 😀 What the fuck are they on ?! Golden 80'...
I believe drugs in 80's surely a top tier quality. Today drugs make people just like zombie.
@bangrojai4868 alcohol, grief and jason (maybe a lil blow too)
Cliff had just died a few weeks before this. They played incredibly fast and aggressive in the year after his death
Lars was infamously a cocaine addict back in those days.
I SAW THEM ON THAT TOUR,,,MCALLEN, TX,, RAN INTO THEM AS THEY WERE GETTING OF THE BUS,, INCREDIBLE MEMORIES,
I love shows like this, just the band, stage and lights. Today I think your money goes towards the "show" and it takes away from the music. Years ago there were no phones or distractions just music. I miss those days....😢
Jaymz guitar is struggling to keep up with the downpicking..... he's 3 bars ahead
insane speed
That right hand of james faster than ever 🤘
Lol i still have the marty friedman hot licks vhs tape from when i was 13 learning how to play his exotic scales. Marty has aged extremely well. His phrasing and vibrato very unique.
So much faster and harder in their prime!
Oh yeah five times black was last trip with guns n posers .. they stopped drinking during black album never same
We all were lol.
How they did a full concert this fast is beyond me I cant even play it for a minute 😢
Practice, practice, practice, and massive amounts of grief and alcohol.
@@A_Final_Hit And Coke haha
Great video. Saw this tour in May of 86’ Chicago
Great post! Thanx a bunch.
That was my first concert but in pa
I saw this same tour in Denver when they opened for Ozzy and they absolutely destroyed his show. Nobody could follow Metallica in the 80’s.
Kirk swapped out guitars ?😂 i just noticed, because earlier he was playing a strat, then he's playing a jackson
Jason newsted is here
The beginning of Jason after the death of Cliff Burton. Then, in 1987 they will record the first album with him "Garage days"
No shit Sherlock
One of my favorite opening riffs from Metallica 😊😊😊😊
James was an absolute animal back then. Damn!
Jesus this is obviously the anger and grief after Cliffs death coming out here... James down picking is incredible and Kirk had to follow along ..
Is that Jason already in the bass position??? Cliff already gone at this point?
Yep.Cliff died in sept/86….this was dec 6/86
The real Metallica.
Beautiful
Cocaine, alcohol, grief, and anger
There was no cocaine during this era.
@@russkate88are…….are you serious??
@@mike5024 yes. Lars said that he and Kirk only did coke in the nineties and James and Jason never did drugs. They just drank.
And lots of practice 😊
@@Bobsyourunclebro THAT'S... THE REASON. It must be ignorant in music, or very stupid, to believe that drugs works in speed or in anything in music. IT'S PRACTICE... Drugs only KILLING you, ask Nick Menza, just for example.
So faster that kirk's fender becomes a jackson flying v
At about the 3:05 mark you can see Kirk motion to his tech on the side of the stage.
Master of Puppets ❎
Faster of Puppets ✅
esto es la definición de thrash metal
So, it looks like Jason is playing with them here and not Cliff, so what would the timeline be for this show? It would have to be after 1986, or at least, no earlier than late November/December of that year? Cliff had passed away in September, so I wouldn't expect they'd be ready to play shows so soon afterwards, with all the auditions, rehearsals, and what not? Either way, the utterly crushed it here. This is the sound of a band that really doesn't exist anymore. With all due respect to millennial -era Metallica (who do have some good songs, to be fair) time has moved on...
Ooooh, those sweet smelly times! (Playing much faster as it is -15°C outside just to warm up themselves.)
I dont think there was an album in the 80s that had the sound quality that puppets did, I can't think of one.
There was better albums. Blizzard of Ozz by Ozzy Osbourne. Theater of Pain by Mötley Crüe. A lot more
Insane stuff 🤘
ดูกี่ครั้งก็มันส์😊
Das Beste Metallica aller Zeiten Jason the best Bassist ever But the Vokal from James all the best in his Time
Damn, that's fast as hell
James so mastered he forgot to hit his pedal.
James was an animal
Sheeww.... They are BARELY hanging on, but they pull it off.. The tempo is about 12,000bpm.😂
Oldschool 🎉
True Metallica.
❤❤❤❤metallica
Kebayang maksimalin suara sambil main gitar dg tempo secepat ini
ditambah headbang
Faster of puppets
5:39 a little rhythm fuck-up :) but in general sounds extremely good!!!
Amazing Metallica, remember;:'
Megadeth and Slayer could never beat this in any parallel universe
They replaced Cliff pretty quickly since he died Sept of '86
Потом какой то фред говорит не умеет играть 😅😅
Надо бы ему в донат это скинуть
ну так да, твоя проблема если ты не глухоман)
So Kirk switched from a strat guitar to a Jackson randy rhoads one in the middle of the song? Crazy
How awesome they were
Very good 😊
Lars fighting for his fucking life lmao
Ketika operator rental studio muncul di jendela ngasih tau waktu sisa 5 menit lagi
So fast they knocked a minute off the recorded time
❤🎉
were in Toronto was this filmed
Maple Leaf Gardens. I was at this show. First of MANY Metallica shows. I forgot how insanely fast they used to be!
That time when Ulrich could still play the drums, and Hammett was already making mistakes on the guitar. In general, they keep the pace cool, one and a half times faster. On bass so already Newsted.
what specific guitar is kirk hammet using here?
Чё не снимал Ньюстеда пр
Dont forget that kirk keeps up with james
Стопудов Фред за кулисами мочит, а хет под него рубится😂
kirk on a stratocaster is historic
Kirk switching to Jackson within a song lol
Playing along with this on the guitar is both challenging and fucking awesome lol
Carol King on bass
Faster! Faster!
..who is the bassist at that time?
Jason
Jason Cliff died in Sweden
kirk whit a fender guitar...??? 🎸 haha
It's an esp
@@shred9475 nah, it's the Fernandes ‘Edna’ Strat copy
Back when Lars could keep a beat...
Pure fucking danger 🔥
Cliff Burton is not on this one
Hetfield is a god.
This is not the same MOP they have played in at least 15-20 years. Not nearly the same aggression, attack or feeling put into it.
Everyone thinks they were on blow at this time but the lyrics in this song are literally mocking cocaine and heroin users. I’m sure he’s done some blow in his day but not likely at this time
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