@@DemonCore618 Hi friend, I’m definitely one of those subs and would love to clarify some of the confusion you seem to have reached about our beliefs and worldview. Reach out anytime! 🤠😁
Remember how people would blame Christianity and the Bible for slavery but don't give credit to many of the abolitionist we're heavily christian and how the union army heaven had a hymn "battle hymn of the the republic" the ending lyrics of the song end like "in beauty of lilies Christ was born across the seas with a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me as he died to make men holy let us live to make men free.
It's hard to care when there's nothing outright forbidding slavery in old or new testaments, bearing in mind everything from homosexuality to eating a goat Kidd which has been roasted in its own mother's milk was banned successfully, why not slavery? I mean, in a fit of racism, god said you can't enslave your fellow Hebrew. But it says mere verses later that you can buy and own gentiles as slaves.
@@blacksmoke3113 slavery, known as servanthood, was a regular job in the OT. It was a job for the poorest of the poor to pay off their debt and earn a living. Sometimes, a forever home if their master (boss) loved them as family. OT slavery was not the evil of chattel slavery or graeco-roman slavery.
With all due respect, but no one is interested about practicing Christians being against slavery in the past. The Bible itself supports and justifies slavery. Here is an example: "When a slaveowner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property." Exodus [21: 20] I've done my research and there is no context to this verse, which is pretty scary. May Allah (God) guide you to Islam, aka, the truth. Ameen!
“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:31-32 KJV
The book you noted, Science & Religion a historical introduction was edited by professor ferngren. He was my professor in college. Had a sort of Christian book club. Amazing professor and Christian. One of the best History professors you could as for
@@merbst he didn’t? He edited a history book that went over the history of science and religion, and how they interact. It’s also a course he taught as well as he gave lectures at other universities on the subject. He’s an expert on the matter, and you not liking that he’s practicing a religion you don’t like is completely irrelevant
A system of medical centres already existed in Ancient Rome and Greece. The Greeks were the earliest pioneers in medicine. The Church only built upon what it inherited. I think that we are not giving credit wehte it is due. I find it despicable to forget who the real fathers of Western civilization are just because they were 'heathens'. I wonder what our civilization would look like without Christianity... This is a good thought experiment.
@@Nexus-jg7evYes, Asclepius' temples were present in the past, but the idea of a charitable hospital, where poor people could recieve assistance for their illnesses, that is a thoroughly Christian idea. As for ignoring the Geeco-Roman heritage of the West, that's untrue, especiqlly if you take the 10 minites necessary to study your history. However, tje Greco-Romans were not egalitatians in any sense of the word, except for those who were free males, and even then, class and ethnic divisions often helped further divide the demos to allow plutocrats to rule.
Ignoring the fact that religions are not the same. Each religion has it's own ideology (system of ideas) that it operates in, the real question is what religion "frees you" and what religion "enslaves" you. It's like saying a monarchy and a republic are the same because they both are forms of government.
You'd have to really search and study a lot of practices to find one that brainwashes and controls people. I'm not a scholar but from what I've studied on my own accord, the texts and teachings of the major religions around the world are very empowering.
@@Wakamolewonder yes but with morals it stops us from enslaving our neighbors how fast would Society collapse if morals disappeared it goes two ways into complete authoritarianism or Anarchy
"I would choose the Bible over Religion" I can get the sense, but it's not like those 1,500 years maybe more weren't tampered with as there was literally a Roman emperor who had full control of Christianity, named Constantine and it's not like you solve problems from the Arians and Trinitarians if you don't do something with the Bible. I don't believe in the Bible as a true form of the Word. But rather Science, I learned the Borde Turn Valenkin theorem with it, as well as Isaac Newton stating that Atheism was so senseless, everything couldn't exist by chance. The fact that the universe is expanding, there could be a beginning. So no, not the Bible but Science for me
"I would choose the Bible over Religion" I can get the sense, but it's not like those 1,500 years maybe more weren't tampered with as there was literally a Roman emperor who had full control of Christianity, named Constantine and it's not like you solve problems from the Arians and Trinitarians if you don't do something with the Bible. I don't believe in the Bible as a true form of the Word. But rather Science, I learned the Borde Turn Valenkin theorem with it, as well as Isaac Newton stating that Atheism was so senseless, everything couldn't exist by chance. The fact that the universe is expanding, there could be a beginning. So no, not the Bible but Science for me
There’s a reason why we wear caps and gowns during graduation - we’re following the custom of ministers whose robes have been a sign of learning for generations.
You kind of proved that guys point tho bro. Yu just gave a bunch of examples of how Christianity shape our morals and how we view things. Although yu gave a bunch of positive examples which are true they did encourage slaves to obey their master. It’s written rite in the Bible. So they did influence the masses maybe not solely for slavery but they did support it.
IP has video on these controversial passages and how the bare out in real life. It’s not a one to one correlation of how atheist and fundamentalist think they play out in the real world.
@@CorpKitten What's the point of not cherry picking and cherry picking? What's the difference between cherry picking and not compromising? What's the difference between not cherry picking and compromising?
To play devil's advocate - He never claimed that religion doesn't have its merits - Only that it makes society easier to control, one doesn't exclude the other.
Well said, religion is made by people, people; different food to the table from all sorts of shapes, colors, smells, etc. better said the individual rather than the religion itself. It’s easier to spit words than analyze at the molecular level, much more complicated than appreciating religions for various reasons. always another side to the coin & only those who see it understand it, which many don’t.
Early religion was a way to understand the world our early ancestors lived it, difference came from developing cultures. Many major religions were formed (or at least heavily spread) from breaking free from tyranny and servitude, there's a reason a lot of religions depicts slaves being rescued by prophits/messiahs/or even God.
Actually that's an Ankh from Egyptian mythology. The Christian cross symbol along with certain aspects of the religion was borrowed from Egyptian mythology along with various other East African and Western Asia religions.
@ducksauss Actually, there is no historical consensus as to which the symbol came to represent first, the cross of Christ or hieroglyphics for Egyptian paganism. Regardless, its irrelevant since that symbol is universally accepted as a Christian symbol in Egypt today.
Nobody finds it ironic the guy at the beginning has an ankh necklace which was a well-known symbol in Ancient Egypt and has been seen on hieroglyphs of gods holding it in their left hands, yet he calls religion an enslavement tool?
The world would be much simpler if we didn't have religion. People would stop saying "My religion is the only right one", "no mine is!", "Actually my religion is the real one." and start doing stuff that is useful.
Then a lot would be for the worse with no religion. A lot less reinforcements on religion and all that. Religion doesn’t really divid us that much besides some extreme terrorist groups like Al qaeda.
Just like how you are claiming atheism is the right way? You are literally committing the problem you are complaining about IN THE SAME COMMENT. Do. Better.
God loves you so much that he sent his son to die on the cross for your sins so that you may have eternal life with Him. You will be saved if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead. God bless you to know the truth and the truth will set you free
@@scouthart3062 Sounds nice... Wait, no, it doesn't. I find vicarious atonement to be morally repugnant. But even if we could say it was a nice message, what matters is if it is true or not. Athesists want evidence behind your claims, not preaching.
Have a look at their backgrounds, their research experience, how their peers review their research, the awards they win. What else would you look for, to be accredited
@@js1423 Nothing wrong with agreeing with nature on marriage. Ungodly people made up the right to gay marriage. You're condemning Christians for not agreeing with your beliefs.
Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
If I had to choose between a church or the bible... I would choose the bible. A church and pastor, prest or any holy man can do exactly what any government can do. My advice to everyone is read the bible, it's really not that hard to understand. Keep God in your heart and follow the teachings. You don't need anyone to tell you what they think is right.
Thanks for the many sources Michael! Sometimes it feels like debating Christianity's role in morality, science, and arts throughout human history is a back and forth battle of what I say VS what my opponent says. The number of books you sourced would be some good sources to delve into.
Imagine thinking that if a group creates a set of standards to live by, this makes you a "slave". This guy is 100% a slave at all times because he can't go anywhere that doesn't have some rules to follow.
Not exactly but if 1 man says that some god spoke to him and only him (thus you have no way to verify it), but that you need to trust him and do whatever he says (like offering sacrifices to that god, which the priest end up eating), that man might be playing you. Just a thought
@@wizolufa1452 What are you talking about? Mormonism? Jehova's Witness? Muslims? Lots of cults and religions are one person's secret knowledge. But not all of them.
@@wizolufa1452 I see. Moses didn't invent any religion though, he delivered law and led people out of Egypt. No one person invented Christianity since it developed over 4000 years, with scripture written by 40 authors through time. Though of course Jesus tied it all together. The proof isn't in one person having secret revelation, but in prophets and miracles.
Remember this saying and acronym, "Religion is: Stories: to teach the young History: lest we forget, and be doomed to repeat Ideals: to preserve morals and values Tales: of why the other three are so important.
@@1sanitat1 being spiritual and being in a religion or religious can easily be intertwined. If it held no value or he holds no belief in a higher power of any sort he would not wear said piece.
God is often wrongly blamed by those without a proper understanding. It is usually human fallibility which leads to atrocities being undertaken in the Lord's name. Which is also using his name in vain. This doesn't only apply to cuss words but also to those who blame God for thier own actions or who take personal credit for what actually belongs to the Almighty 🙏 Blaming God for wars and inquisitions is just low resolution thinking
Be religious if you need religions, Be irreligious if you don't believe in them Just be a good person regardless, and don't shove your beliefs down each other's throats. I can't believe it was that hard.
Regardless of what it introduced into your life, it was done so to make you quiet and obedient while the church stole your money and assaulted your children.
It's true though with organized religion in the medieval ages where the church sought to keep expanding their power over the crown and the masses with their tons of decrees.
"Invented" We evolved to have religion. We would marry and breed with other people who displayed more religious traits. It's a display of healthy genetics since our minds use it as a tool to help us breed and relieve ourselves from stress. Religious people have healthier genetics because that's how we are meant to be. It pushes a healthy and strong code designed to build strong cultures and empires
Its not about education its abt keeping the masses under control its keeping people from just doung whatever they want because they dont want to go to “hell”.. this is what he meant
@@hydepark1382 he specifically selects auch studies because he is a Protestant fanatic . What a jerk . As far a I know all they have contributed is black slavery system .
Actually it WAS the Spiderman Tom Holland that wrote the above mentioned book and this other guy taking credit for Mr. Holland’s academic work is shameful.
What it has done doesn’t change what it originally intended, and what it meant originally meant doesn’t change what it can do, even though without the organisation provided by religion we’d thousands of years behind where we are, it is quite clear that it initially and still partially does push oppressive ideas and systems
3 million died in the crusades and another 3 million were enslaved and given the smaller population that’ll probably be ten million today all killed or enslaved just because the other people had a different religion. These were just a few deadly events but there are many more.
I like Tom. I don’t think he’s a believer but he actually appreciates the role of religion in culture and history. Fascinating work on the revisionist view of Islamic history too.
Praise Jesus that he died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day, for it is by grace that we are saved, and not of ourselves, it is the gift of God, not by works lest any man should boast ephesians 2:8-9 And the gospel is in 1 corinthians Ch. 15:1-4, and that is how we are saved and is how we are kept saved and rapture ready, Titus 2:13: looking for that blessed hope (rapture) and the glorious appearing of our great God and saviour Jesus christ, praise God that he loved us so much that he sent his only begotten son that we may be saved John 3:16 and that we are sealed and sanctified!
It seems as though most people that argue that religion is man made for power tend to confuse Christianity and catholicism. The two are far from the same thing. Catholicism WAS designed for power, whereas Christianity was designed by our God and Father
“this may sound intelligent to your TikTok audience” broooo, absolute savage 😭😭😂😂😂😂
It is even funnier when you think this guy’s subs on his TH-cam channel believe in magic and immortal cosmic zombies, holy threesome and whatnot.
@@DemonCore618 Hi friend, I’m definitely one of those subs and would love to clarify some of the confusion you seem to have reached about our beliefs and worldview. Reach out anytime! 🤠😁
Hi there, Br Gabe. I'd like to have a discussion with you about Christianity.
What?
That’s savage?
Bro Tom Holland has wide range when it comes to his career
Yeah! Dosnt he play Spiderman as well?
Tom Holland is a pretty based guy. I love his interviews on unbelievable.
Spider-Man’s secret identity is Peter Parker. Peter Parker’s secret identity is Tom Holland.
@@isakhedeen9596 🤣🤣🤣🤣thought the same thing many times before I heard the rest of the stories
IKR!!
Remember how people would blame Christianity and the Bible for slavery but don't give credit to many of the abolitionist we're heavily christian and how the union army heaven had a hymn "battle hymn of the the republic" the ending lyrics of the song end like "in beauty of lilies Christ was born across the seas with a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me as he died to make men holy let us live to make men free.
It's a "trend" today to moke Christianity and be "woke" when in reality they are just looking at the facts with confirmation biases
It's hard to care when there's nothing outright forbidding slavery in old or new testaments, bearing in mind everything from homosexuality to eating a goat Kidd which has been roasted in its own mother's milk was banned successfully, why not slavery?
I mean, in a fit of racism, god said you can't enslave your fellow Hebrew. But it says mere verses later that you can buy and own gentiles as slaves.
@@blacksmoke3113 slavery, known as servanthood, was a regular job in the OT. It was a job for the poorest of the poor to pay off their debt and earn a living. Sometimes, a forever home if their master (boss) loved them as family. OT slavery was not the evil of chattel slavery or graeco-roman slavery.
With all due respect, but no one is interested about practicing Christians being against slavery in the past. The Bible itself supports and justifies slavery.
Here is an example:
"When a slaveowner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property."
Exodus [21: 20]
I've done my research and there is no context to this verse, which is pretty scary.
May Allah (God) guide you to Islam, aka, the truth. Ameen!
@@rafayshakeel4812pls clarify but did Muhammad not own slaves?
And yet he has an ankh necklace
LOL right
The irony
He must be apart of the “woke” new agers 😭
I noticed that immediately and thought to myself, "bruh...."
I was dying.
"Religion enslaves us!"
"Bro there's something I gotta tell you about Egypt..."
“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
John 8:31-32 KJV
Who wrote that?
@@vanceparrish5251 Seriously? It’s at the bottom of the quote. It’s a passage from the book of John in the Holy Bible
@@johnharrison5656 really ? You sure "John" wrote it ?
@@johnharrison5656 you might want to research who wrote the gospels.
@@vanceparrish5251 it’s a book written 2000 years ago, there’s not even any evidence that any of those people really existed in the first place
You're exactly right. I hate it when people use this as an argument.
The book you noted, Science & Religion a historical introduction was edited by professor ferngren. He was my professor in college. Had a sort of Christian book club. Amazing professor and Christian. One of the best History professors you could as for
That’s amazing
So, he failed to uphold his professional ethics to proselytize under the guise of scholarship?
@@merbst what??? Lol so everyone has to be an atheist to be a scholar? Get your edgy r/atheist crap out of here
@@ItsThatGuy1989 No, just an honest history professor should not present a testamony of faith as an academic work.
@@merbst he didn’t? He edited a history book that went over the history of science and religion, and how they interact. It’s also a course he taught as well as he gave lectures at other universities on the subject. He’s an expert on the matter, and you not liking that he’s practicing a religion you don’t like is completely irrelevant
That’s not even mentioning the fact hospitals come from te Catholic hospitallers
Yes because atheists will insist that the catholics have onlt caused the inquisitions and have done nothing good... Those damn catholics!
He's just a Protestant fanatic . With small pp complex
A system of medical centres already existed in Ancient Rome and Greece. The Greeks were the earliest pioneers in medicine. The Church only built upon what it inherited. I think that we are not giving credit wehte it is due. I find it despicable to forget who the real fathers of Western civilization are just because they were 'heathens'. I wonder what our civilization would look like without Christianity... This is a good thought experiment.
@@Nexus-jg7evYes, Asclepius' temples were present in the past, but the idea of a charitable hospital, where poor people could recieve assistance for their illnesses, that is a thoroughly Christian idea. As for ignoring the Geeco-Roman heritage of the West, that's untrue, especiqlly if you take the 10 minites necessary to study your history. However, tje Greco-Romans were not egalitatians in any sense of the word, except for those who were free males, and even then, class and ethnic divisions often helped further divide the demos to allow plutocrats to rule.
Ignoring the fact that religions are not the same. Each religion has it's own ideology (system of ideas) that it operates in, the real question is what religion "frees you" and what religion "enslaves" you.
It's like saying a monarchy and a republic are the same because they both are forms of government.
Islam enslaves.
You'd have to really search and study a lot of practices to find one that brainwashes and controls people. I'm not a scholar but from what I've studied on my own accord, the texts and teachings of the major religions around the world are very empowering.
It’s not what frees you or what enslaves you. Everyone is enslaved. What matters is what is doing the enslaving.
@@Wakamolewonder yes but with morals it stops us from enslaving our neighbors how fast would Society collapse if morals disappeared it goes two ways into complete authoritarianism or Anarchy
Lol now we need a theologian spider-man
"I would choose the Bible over Religion"
I can get the sense, but it's not like those 1,500 years maybe more weren't tampered with as there was literally a Roman emperor who had full control of Christianity, named Constantine and it's not like you solve problems from the Arians and Trinitarians if you don't do something with the Bible.
I don't believe in the Bible as a true form of the Word. But rather Science, I learned the Borde Turn Valenkin theorem with it, as well as Isaac Newton stating that Atheism was so senseless, everything couldn't exist by chance. The fact that the universe is expanding, there could be a beginning. So no, not the Bible but Science for me
"I would choose the Bible over Religion"
I can get the sense, but it's not like those 1,500 years maybe more weren't tampered with as there was literally a Roman emperor who had full control of Christianity, named Constantine and it's not like you solve problems from the Arians and Trinitarians if you don't do something with the Bible.
I don't believe in the Bible as a true form of the Word. But rather Science, I learned the Borde Turn Valenkin theorem with it, as well as Isaac Newton stating that Atheism was so senseless, everything couldn't exist by chance. The fact that the universe is expanding, there could be a beginning. So no, not the Bible but Science for me
@@leibniz4455 not only is this moronic but idk how you made sense of the message you’re replying to in the first place
There’s a reason why we wear caps and gowns during graduation - we’re following the custom of ministers whose robes have been a sign of learning for generations.
When we (Finns) get a doctorate, we wear tophats and get swords. I don't know why actually, just thought it's cool and mentioned it because 😁
It sounded like he said “religion was specifically designed by arts and crafters” 😂 hey, anything is valid if it’s on TikTok! 🤣
Exactly this is how blind people are
No it doesnt??
These people should read about the roman empire during it's decline.
What exactly are they supposed to learn from that in your opinion?
I wish I lived nearby, we would be friends.
InspiringPhilosophy, why do you think that these tik tok video makers are so confident in everything they claim?
This is my opinion.
I don't know.
Because those who know less are most confident Dunning Krueger effect
Because they have nothing to believe in.
they hate God
Because of the target audience
I recently read Dominion. Excellent book, I highly recommend it. We often don't realize just how unusual the things we take for granted really are. 👍
Bro I didn’t realize Spider-Man was a historian. The more you know.
You kind of proved that guys point tho bro. Yu just gave a bunch of examples of how Christianity shape our morals and how we view things. Although yu gave a bunch of positive examples which are true they did encourage slaves to obey their master. It’s written rite in the Bible. So they did influence the masses maybe not solely for slavery but they did support it.
IP has video on these controversial passages and how the bare out in real life. It’s not a one to one correlation of how atheist and fundamentalist think they play out in the real world.
@@segurall1 so some passages are "out of context" and others are "exactly as written". So easy to just cherrypick as one wants...
@@CorpKitten What's the point of not cherry picking and cherry picking? What's the difference between cherry picking and not compromising? What's the difference between not cherry picking and compromising?
IP never disappoints, God bless you brother.
To play devil's advocate - He never claimed that religion doesn't have its merits - Only that it makes society easier to control, one doesn't exclude the other.
Well said, religion is made by people, people; different food to the table from all sorts of shapes, colors, smells, etc. better said the individual rather than the religion itself. It’s easier to spit words than analyze at the molecular level, much more complicated than appreciating religions for various reasons. always another side to the coin & only those who see it understand it, which many don’t.
Early religion was a way to understand the world our early ancestors lived it, difference came from developing cultures.
Many major religions were formed (or at least heavily spread) from breaking free from tyranny and servitude, there's a reason a lot of religions depicts slaves being rescued by prophits/messiahs/or even God.
No
@@Tzimiskes3506 straight, simple, to the point.
@@Tzimiskes3506 what part do you disagree with?
Yes
Lol, appreciate the Spider-Man disclaimer
Religion was humanity's first attempt to explain the natural world
I’m not religious, but I do like Inspiring Philosophy. I also agree, “skeptics” on social media are not that great with history. 😅
From a muslim
Thank u for saving me from tick tok stupidity
Really i appreciate it
TOM HOLLAND WROTE A BOOK!? LOL!
Yes. He wrote many books. Great historian.
@@transcendentalarts5942 I was joking about the Spiderman Actor LOL.
The ignorance of people on Tik Tok is sickening.
Westerners swim in a sea of Christian sensibilities. Like fish, we won’t recognize the water for its necessity to our well-being until it’s gone.
"Underprivileged" meaning fellow Christians as they were oppressed at the time. The same goes for todayand yet they aren't
“Religion was designed to control us” *Wears a Coptic Orthodox Cross* 😂
Actually that's an Ankh from Egyptian mythology. The Christian cross symbol along with certain aspects of the religion was borrowed from Egyptian mythology along with various other East African and Western Asia religions.
@ducksauss Actually, there is no historical consensus as to which the symbol came to represent first, the cross of Christ or hieroglyphics for Egyptian paganism. Regardless, its irrelevant since that symbol is universally accepted as a Christian symbol in Egypt today.
Not the “Not Spiderman Tom Holland” 💀💀💀
Nobody finds it ironic the guy at the beginning has an ankh necklace which was a well-known symbol in Ancient Egypt and has been seen on hieroglyphs of gods holding it in their left hands, yet he calls religion an enslavement tool?
This also sounds intelligent to your tiktok audience
Yo IP, could you debate "professor dave" the atheist
since he's open to debates
Professor Dave who attacked Dr. James Tour because he’s a Christ following man?
@@michaelbrickley2443 nah mate. Professor Dave attacks stupid people for saying stupid things. I’d pay to see that debate
@@1stpaperdragon740 put your trust in man and when you meet the God of the universe you will learn how smart Dave isn’t
@@michaelbrickley2443 so trust the superstitions of ancient humans that didn't know any better?
@@thomascomptoniv6076 absolute golden reply 😂, professor Dave is awesome and makes great videos about science .
so beautifully said. Why couldnt you be this thorough about the absolute attachments and or pagan implications of xmas
The world would be much simpler if we didn't have religion. People would stop saying "My religion is the only right one", "no mine is!", "Actually my religion is the real one." and start doing stuff that is useful.
Then a lot would be for the worse with no religion. A lot less reinforcements on religion and all that. Religion doesn’t really divid us that much besides some extreme terrorist groups like Al qaeda.
Just like how you are claiming atheism is the right way? You are literally committing the problem you are complaining about IN THE SAME COMMENT. Do. Better.
Best opening response ever: "this may sound intelligent to your Tiktoc audience..." 🏆
I'm an "atheist" who wgo watches your chanel alot because you don't just spew religious nonsense but I can't say I agree with everything in this video
Why u think he spews nonsense?
God loves you so much that he sent his son to die on the cross for your sins so that you may have eternal life with Him. You will be saved if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead. God bless you to know the truth and the truth will set you free
@@scouthart3062 Sounds nice... Wait, no, it doesn't. I find vicarious atonement to be morally repugnant. But even if we could say it was a nice message, what matters is if it is true or not. Athesists want evidence behind your claims, not preaching.
The first writer, Tom Holland is an atheist
Tiktok is the best place to see ppl who wish they were scholars pretend to be scholars
Yes. It developed humanity at a time when there was nothing. Now it is time to let go and move forward.
Anybody can be a published author lmfao. Doesn’t mean you’re accredited
Have a look at their backgrounds, their research experience, how their peers review their research, the awards they win. What else would you look for, to be accredited
🤣 Christianity is tyrannical and oppressive.
Atheism’s only contributions to the world are Communism and the internet meme. That’s it.
I mean, they largely opposed and still oppose same-sex marriage. At least the popular pundits and apologists, including someone as nice as IP.
Cope and seethe, bigot
@@js1423 Nothing wrong with agreeing with nature on marriage. Ungodly people made up the right to gay marriage. You're condemning Christians for not agreeing with your beliefs.
Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
Who... who does he think sat down one day and designed religion? All of it? A committee?
If I had to choose between a church or the bible... I would choose the bible. A church and pastor, prest or any holy man can do exactly what any government can do. My advice to everyone is read the bible, it's really not that hard to understand. Keep God in your heart and follow the teachings. You don't need anyone to tell you what they think is right.
I didn’t know that spider man was a historian
Morality does not come from books from the fiction section.
Even the most foolish are wisest in his truth and mercy
Yet it’s true. No book will ever scare me into doing right by my fellow man. I’ve enough sense on my own to do so.
Watching your shorts Just about as frequently as I watch Jordan Peterson 🙂
That's a compliment ;)
Hey man can you do very basic stuff with your shorts like for example "who is the church" so that I can share with friends and non believers?
The thing is up until modern times the Church was ran by one person and no lesser man was aloud to read
Thanks for the many sources Michael! Sometimes it feels like debating Christianity's role in morality, science, and arts throughout human history is a back and forth battle of what I say VS what my opponent says. The number of books you sourced would be some good sources to delve into.
Keep the knowledge coming brother 🙏🏽✝️💪🏾
Imagine thinking that if a group creates a set of standards to live by, this makes you a "slave".
This guy is 100% a slave at all times because he can't go anywhere that doesn't have some rules to follow.
Not exactly but if 1 man says that some god spoke to him and only him (thus you have no way to verify it), but that you need to trust him and do whatever he says (like offering sacrifices to that god, which the priest end up eating), that man might be playing you. Just a thought
@@wizolufa1452 What are you talking about? Mormonism? Jehova's Witness? Muslims? Lots of cults and religions are one person's secret knowledge. But not all of them.
@@vigilantezack I had Christianity in mind ( I was thinking Moses) but this applies to a lot of religions
@@wizolufa1452 I see. Moses didn't invent any religion though, he delivered law and led people out of Egypt. No one person invented Christianity since it developed over 4000 years, with scripture written by 40 authors through time. Though of course Jesus tied it all together.
The proof isn't in one person having secret revelation, but in prophets and miracles.
You should ask "why the oppressors would create a faith that believes in God that is superior to the oppressors?"
Easier to not take accountability for your actions if you were directed by a higher being to do them.
Not to mention the RCC is the world's biggest provider for health care and education (if we don't count states)
"The best slaves are those who think they are free".
After hear [...] "TikTok audience", read *Not Spiderman Tom Holland was hilarious 😂😂😂
God wants us to come to him willingly that's why he gave us free will.
Man, Spiderman is an apologetic genius.
Remember this saying and acronym, "Religion is:
Stories: to teach the young
History: lest we forget, and be doomed to repeat
Ideals: to preserve morals and values
Tales: of why the other three are so important.
Seriously this. I don’t know why it’s even an argument…
Anyone notice homie was wearing an Ankh when he said that?
But bro, he ain't religious, he's like, spiritual and stuff, that's totally nothing like religion.
@@1sanitat1 being spiritual and being in a religion or religious can easily be intertwined. If it held no value or he holds no belief in a higher power of any sort he would not wear said piece.
I'd like to see you discuss corrupt religious institutions and their damage done to their congregations.
Archaeologist here, organised religion absolutely was a method through which the rich and powerful kept the masses in check
@Nicky Scarfo how is that good exactly?
I hope your posting these in tik tok as well because ignorance is at large on that app
Weird that he's wearing a symbol from Egyptian mythology if he's so against religion
God is often wrongly blamed by those without a proper understanding. It is usually human fallibility which leads to atrocities being undertaken in the Lord's name. Which is also using his name in vain. This doesn't only apply to cuss words but also to those who blame God for thier own actions or who take personal credit for what actually belongs to the Almighty 🙏
Blaming God for wars and inquisitions is just low resolution thinking
I agree God and the Bible are not to blame for bad Christians or sinful Christians
@@karahershey Amen sister 🙂
“It leads to more education and liberty” and also the TRUTH!!! (Christianity)
Critics will say: if Christianity promotes education and knowledge, then why is Europe behind the Middle East and Asia during the medieval times
Never stop showing truth because someone may cling to the lie
Need to read all these books before aspiring for a political office
The best moral lesson taught by Christianity. If you do yard chores on Sunday you should have your bed crushed with rocks .
Never new spiderman was an historian
Be religious if you need religions,
Be irreligious if you don't believe in them
Just be a good person regardless, and don't shove your beliefs down each other's throats. I can't believe it was that hard.
Regardless of what it introduced into your life, it was done so to make you quiet and obedient while the church stole your money and assaulted your children.
“Im a special boy with the most special knowledge” says the new age TikToker
Amen brother
See also, Dr. John Lennox, Dr. Rupert Sheldrake, and Dr. Fr. Josiah Trenham.
Yea I do believe this is the reason why people betrayed their queen and king and founded America but people need to keep the fear
It's the opposite. Christianity set us free.
It's true though with organized religion in the medieval ages where the church sought to keep expanding their power over the crown and the masses with their tons of decrees.
"Invented"
We evolved to have religion. We would marry and breed with other people who displayed more religious traits. It's a display of healthy genetics since our minds use it as a tool to help us breed and relieve ourselves from stress.
Religious people have healthier genetics because that's how we are meant to be. It pushes a healthy and strong code designed to build strong cultures and empires
Source: trust me bro
Its not about education its abt keeping the masses under control its keeping people from just doung whatever they want because they dont want to go to “hell”.. this is what he meant
What about the missions though? Weren't they technically enforced and enslaved under the name of God?
Religion frees people while providing hope through faith for a better life.
You seem to suggest it's *protestantism* specifically that "gave rise" to the things you mentioned.
@@hydepark1382 he specifically selects auch studies because he is a Protestant fanatic . What a jerk . As far a I know all they have contributed is black slavery system .
Actually it WAS the Spiderman Tom Holland that wrote the above mentioned book and this other guy taking credit for Mr. Holland’s academic work is shameful.
It does now days, the countries with the highest citizen happinesses are also the ones with the lowest religion rates
What it has done doesn’t change what it originally intended, and what it meant originally meant doesn’t change what it can do, even though without the organisation provided by religion we’d thousands of years behind where we are, it is quite clear that it initially and still partially does push oppressive ideas and systems
All religions have created conflict pain and suffering.
And atheist nations havent? Communism, practiced by many atheist nations, has killed far more than any religion ever has.
I love how he bring up protestantism. Protest is litterally in the name of course they will be making more progressive stances than the status quo.
And the same Protestant reformation bought individualism, secularism and relativism.
3 million died in the crusades and another 3 million were enslaved and given the smaller population that’ll probably be ten million today all killed or enslaved just because the other people had a different religion. These were just a few deadly events but there are many more.
I like Tom. I don’t think he’s a believer but he actually appreciates the role of religion in culture and history. Fascinating work on the revisionist view of Islamic history too.
Free people of the world unite - before you manage to destroy humanity completely!
There was a documented and measured slowing in scientific progress that occurred when scientists started to convert to atheism.
And christianity gave rise to war and death from the Christian crusades.
Praise Jesus that he died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day, for it is by grace that we are saved, and not of ourselves, it is the gift of God, not by works lest any man should boast ephesians 2:8-9
And the gospel is in 1 corinthians Ch. 15:1-4, and that is how we are saved and is how we are kept saved and rapture ready, Titus 2:13: looking for that blessed hope (rapture) and the glorious appearing of our great God and saviour Jesus christ, praise God that he loved us so much that he sent his only begotten son that we may be saved John 3:16 and that we are sealed and sanctified!
As he wears an ankh, the symbol of an ancient nation that literally enslaved people.
It seems as though most people that argue that religion is man made for power tend to confuse Christianity and catholicism. The two are far from the same thing. Catholicism WAS designed for power, whereas Christianity was designed by our God and Father
Christianity is the religion and Catholic is a sect of the religion: Christianity.
Catholic (not Catholicism) is not the religion.
Christianity is the religion. Catholic (not Catholicism) is the sect of Christianity.