Self-denial is sacrifice unless you realize it's denial of something you don't want or need to be happy. Self-sacrifice is how the carnal mind thinks it gets rid of guilt. If Jesus does it for us, that's all the better.
Jesus said "The meek shall inherit the world, So true; the way to heaven is to understand humility over arrogance; To build patience over anger, hatred, and jealousy. To have compassion; to be generous over receiving as St Francis of Assisi says. Many things are not taught very well now.
@@TedTheAtheist Hey, lots of wisdom there if you’re interested, and lots of similarities between Jesus and Buddha, both seemed of transcendent consciousness. If not so interested, that’s cool too, we all get to follow our paths
When asked if he was a king by Rome, Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world.” There’s your answer, Jesus is outside the matrix. His power, glory, and righteousness is so far beyond anything in this realm
@@masada2828 Both things are true. God's Kingdom is not of this world and someday His Kingdom will be unified with this realm. This is also why Jesus said, "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." We can bring God's Kingdom here to earth through intention, thought, and action. That's our choice actually to invite God here, because he gives us this realm and free agency as an expression of His love
The sermon on the mount alone is largely responsible for this idea of individual freedom and rights.. This notion that humans have inherent value and deserve love didn’t really exist until Christ came along. It was totally radical, and in many ways still is
@@DoomsdayClockRadio the job of the god was probably to reinforce the behaviours of their ‘clients’ . Therefore we’re fairly malleable to any human trait .
There was a tumblr post about kindness and compassion being the strongest act of rebellion against a brutalist regime. As someone put it: "Mr Rogers was the essence of punk"
No what you just described is not Christianity; It’s some eastern tradition. Our bodies are not our own, they are God’s creation and He gave us life for His Son and through Jesus Christ and His atoning sacrifice we are cleansed by His wounds, if we accept Him as Lord over all. That He condescended to walk this earth, (Emmanuel- God with us) and fulfilled the O.T. laws perfectly, healed the sick/lame in all of Israel, demons came out in the 1,000’s as he walked with His disciples in the lands beyond and they knew exactly Who He was and stated what His purposes for being here was. He gave up His life, but before He took His last breath forgave a thief (they don’t go to heaven btw) and told him today you will be with me in paradise. We walk this earth in tents which hold His Spirit as we live to serve Him, worship Him in song and thanksgiving as He works in us through His Spirit His holiness, until He brings us home.
Can see the perspective of the cross representing torture.. for me it's a reminder of what Jesus did on that cross and surely I can sacrifice also 🙏 💯 ❤
This is always what God does. God's ways are not our ways, his thoughts are not our thoughts. Everything we think is good and right and just in our flesh is actually against the very true fabric of God's reality. You can't earn salvation. But to the human that sounds false. But in reality, it's a gift if God through Jesus Christ our lord. Because what could you truly do to earn it? Give money? Time? How much? How many good deeds? Only Christ crucified the hope of glory
@@TedTheAtheist 1 Jesus Christ existed historically and 2 this guy is probably a protestant cuz he got it all wrong. We can achieve salvation by faith and works. By believing in god, by cleansing ourselves from sins and by doing deeds that reflect our faith we can be saved. God bless ( from an orthodox Christian).
@@MLdoktor don't believe the words of a protestant Christian, they've misinterpreted the word of god. We can be saved by faith and works. Believing in god goes hand to hand with acting as a believer of god. God bless you, from an orthodox Christian.
The cross was not just a symbol of torture and power over the powerless, it was a symbol of GOVERNMENT power and torture. In the end, it was GOVERNMENT power that crucified Jesus. That makes the appropriation and subversion of the symbol of the cross even more mind-bending.
Except that Jesus wanted us to end the sin of the flesh with forgiveness, not sacrifice. .. "If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent"
Christianity's message is so counterintuitive as to be nearly unbelievable and incomprehensible. But, it persists in the same seeming contradictions insisting it's a paradox instead of contradiction. How could the cross, a horrendous means of death, become the symbol of entrance into everlasting life and love and and the tomb, the solid symbol of the absolute darkness of endless death become the very place of resurrection and the destruction of death? Do we really believe that the ignorant, unlettered men of Galilee concocted this? Now, that would be an absolute leap of faith.
The cross is NOT synonymous with all Christians. There are at least 14 million Christians who do NOT adopt the cross as a symbol for Christ. They believe in Him and HIs teachings and worship him.
@D no, you are quite ignorant. First of all, my comment isn’t directed to Constantine. Second, what you don’t know is that at that time in history, there was an unfortunate misconception among the average Christian converts that baptism washed away your sins and so Constantine superstitiously put off his baptism as long as he could because he wanted to make sure it “stuck.” So, far from revealing a careless approach to religion, it actually is reflective of how seriously he took it, even if his practice of baptism was misguided. The people who told you otherwise are the ignorant ones who lied to you. Wake up
The view of the cross being a symbol of torture is a very worldly perspective of it. Society sees it as Jesus was killed in such a horrific was so why would we worship the thing that killed him. But as a Christian, we see it as how God sent his only son down to earth and sacrificed him for everyone who was and is to come, and saved them from the burden of our sin. It’s a symbol of the unconditional love God has over us. It shouldn’t be seen as a bad thing. The cross is holy and shall always stay holy.
The cross as the powerless triumphing over the powerful is a weak definition. God pouring out his Son, sacrificing his Son on the Cross. And man now able to be reconciled to God. What we could not do, by our righteousness, but now God has provided a way to save man.
That's the point of a prophet, and every blessed prophet that God ever sent was deployed to upend a society that veered away from worshipping the One God.
When you consider that Saturn is worshiped as a cube by the Jews an Muslims, and can see the cross is an opened up 3d cube with all its 6 sides laid out as a 'cross', you can understand better what the Gnostic 'Demiurge' was about.
I keep starting my copy of Toms book Dominion , but keep being upended by Charles Dickens ( bleak house ) however in my estimation, they are both part of the same continuing narrative.
The cross didn't appear in Christianity until the fourth century CE, up until then Christianity was represented by either a fish or the depiction of a crucifixion.
I think he's missing something important: Christ was not powerless. He could have said one word and instantly had a legion of angels to protect him. The cross is nothing but fulfilment of prophecy. The true symbol of Christ should be the empty tomb. That empty tomb nullified the cross, it made mockery of the power of Rome - here was true power, unearthly power, the power of God. Death was no longer final, and Christians have not feared it since. Peter was more concerned about his worthiness in being martyred like his Saviour, than he was of his impending death.
All quite true though an incomplete historical narrative. Christianity actually did play a democratizing role on the world stage, BUT the history of Christianity is much messier and fraught with contradictions than stated here. As it took power in Europe it began to reverse the terms of oppression on non-Christians, inaugurating centuries of brutal rule over them: witness the Crusades, Spanish conquistadores, French, Dutch, and English imperialist expansion, the Treaty of Tordesillas and the Treaty of Zaragoza, all given Biblical justification. Lesson?: viewing life in black and white is most often simplistic and inaccurate.
So you are saying those who were behind the inquisition were hypocrites because that was not what Christianity was about? So why then are you not a Christian if you use its morality to judge others who clealy are not even Christian?
Theres a msg/warning in the cross as it pertains to the factual balance of life in our 3D reality. Its suggests that humanity, like all life and creation which our reality is bound by, is best served seeking/finding this center balance in all things for the benefit of not just the individual but also the collective.
@@robertdouglas8895 He surrendered his ego to God. Instead of trying to bear it himself, he accepted he was ultimately not in control of the outcome and that allowed him to become one with Him
@@intimatespearfisher Why did he feel separate from God? "Why have you forsaken me? " Because he felt separate from people thinking they were causing his death. "Forgive them for they know not what they do." With forgiveness we can reunite with God and everyone. Then Jesus was ready to go on. It was complete. "Into thy hand I commend my being." So it's forgiveness that reunites us and ends any guilt, not sacrifice. " If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent."
@@mdplady The meaning of the Crucifixion was to replace sacrifice with forgiveness. .. "If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent"
God using man’s/satan’s evil for His Good. Turning what was meant for evil/power/ glory which is meant to harm on its head. The cross is a powerful statement because our Lord and savior sacrificed himself for our sins so that we may be redeemed through Him. He conquered sin and death and satan in His persecution. All Glory to God.
There is no sacrifice when you know who you are, what you are born of. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit"
Your first mistake was using a to reference a plural word religions. Remove the a or the s. Your second mistake was when you assume you knew what you were talking about. The cross represents how we are to live. Jesus said "to all who have ears to hear, pick up your cross and follow me" meaning how we were to live. (Selfless)
I think Christianity and it’s history has both it’s positive side and it’s evil side. In the end one must look at it as it is today not at what it was.
Yet it only works when you add non-demonstrable magic to the story. In some sense, Quidditch gives me hope too, that teenagers will one day learn to become powerful and rise up to use magic to vanquish the evils threatening us.
Ironic that you choose Harry Potter in your example to mock. Harry Potter has so many biblical references within it, and contains within it so many biblical allegories. JK Rowling has said as much.
Jesus said, "take up your cross and follow me" . Jesus "endured" the cross for the joy that was set before Him. The cross nulifies all my thinking of my having a hard life. The One Who knew no sin BECAME sin for us. The Roman government had no power to crucify Him. He could have called 12 legions of angels. Jesus willingly took the place and punishment for EVERY last sin commited by mankind and with no resistance gave His life for us ALL. He made the open door for anyone who would accept the fact that they have sinned, fallen short of the Glory of God, repent of their wickedness and like the their on the cross with a heart knowing its undeserved realize they cannot save themselves ask Jesus for His salvation.
I do find the idea of venerating the cross weird too. It’s like a parent keeping the weapon that killed their son in their house because it reminds them about their son.
@@_JamesMorrell_ nope. That was not Christianity. Christianity centres around Jesus and not one of those atrocities were done in the name of Jesus. Humanism, Gnosticism and superstition are squarely where the fault lies.
@@Jcremo it was It was also Christians who gassed the Jews in ww2 Christianity has been nothing but a blight on humanity the fact you can't see that shows how deeply indoctrinated you are into it I pity you. Subject yourself to the rule of a fictional being that wants to burn you if you don't do exactly what it wants.
Not very humble of you, humble hombre, to come out with such a statement as if it was absolutely certain, which is not. John 20 says “nails through his hands”, and it would have been only “nail” in the singular, not plural, if it had been simply a pole, or a stake. Let’s try to be humble.
To think that the cross was a statement about class is to miss the point. The only classes represented here is the lone righteous one dying for sinners.
Kinda doubt it - yeah if you are jesus you survive - but if you are a peasant - even if you were jesus - rome will always get you! - and as a normal peasent you'd get tortured to death
So much study just to show ignorance. So many words just to create confusion and lie. Every Christian knows that the cross means the sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice is the culmination of His work. Very simple.
Someone said that Jesus was Jesus, but Paul is the creator of the Christ (his epistles were actually written before the Gospels) in that the Christian outreach effort can be first ascribed to him. But then there's the countless anonymous early Christians who gave shape to Christianity through their own work (including the authors of the Gospels, and the preachers who developed the early rituals and symbols) culminating with the Council of Nicaea, where Christianity is formalized and continues to evolve, but now as the official religion of the land.
OK, understood, so no more of these horrible crucifixions. Instead, for the evil heretics who challenged the power of the organised christianity, burning alive. That's what I call progress.
That last line show how little sense this Symbolism makes. I recommend reading Nietzsches Genealogy of Morals. The Christian Cross is not a symbol of rebellion, but of humility and the embracing of weakness, salvation through sacrifice and the surrender of control. It has nothing to do with slaves rebelling their masters. To see Christianity as anything but a religion of the weak is a joke in itself. Christianity upholds Weakness over strength because the people were worth nothing, it seems a lot still feel this way...
uh...this guy doesn't really know about history. Roman's or any culture, really didn't use the cross to crucified people. they just got nailed to a wooden pole or tree. why would Roman's use the symbol of a religion they didn't believe in until emperor Constantine.
Run from the Jehovahs witnesses and stop spreading their lies. I mean in all seriousness this is so obviously nonsense that it’s a giveaway that the religion is a cult
Mercy, forgiveness, humility, self-denial. Totally radical.
Is it self-denial if you really don't need it?
Self-denial is sacrifice unless you realize it's denial of something you don't want or need to be happy. Self-sacrifice is how the carnal mind thinks it gets rid of guilt. If Jesus does it for us, that's all the better.
Stoicism embraced the later two for sure long before any eastern cults were adopted as mainstream faiths.
@@gearoiddom Self-denial includes miracles.
Indeed these things are so radical that many modern Christians who have the example of Jesus STILL do not practice them.
Jesus said "The meek shall inherit the world, So true; the way to heaven is to understand humility over arrogance; To build patience over anger, hatred, and jealousy. To have compassion; to be generous over receiving as St Francis of Assisi says. Many things are not taught very well now.
Yet Jesus most likely never existed. We don't know who wrote and made up the buybull. It's all just fiction.
@@TedTheAtheist the wisdom of the teachings transcends any individual person
@@tomarmstrong3297 Which "wisdom" are you talking about?
@@TedTheAtheist That's too bad for you, wait to see what happens when you die.
@@TedTheAtheist Hey, lots of wisdom there if you’re interested, and lots of similarities between Jesus and Buddha, both seemed of transcendent consciousness. If not so interested, that’s cool too, we all get to follow our paths
Christianity gives hope to the hopeless,
When asked if he was a king by Rome, Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world.” There’s your answer, Jesus is outside the matrix. His power, glory, and righteousness is so far beyond anything in this realm
What Jesus was saying was ‘his Kingdom was not of that Age but the Age to come’ the Kingdom of God on Earth he will establish at his return.
@@masada2828 Both things are true. God's Kingdom is not of this world and someday His Kingdom will be unified with this realm. This is also why Jesus said, "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." We can bring God's Kingdom here to earth through intention, thought, and action. That's our choice actually to invite God here, because he gives us this realm and free agency as an expression of His love
The cross is also a symbol of transformation through voluntary struggle and pain. Transformation into something far-beyond what you were before.
Beautifuls words...and true too...they cannot understand...if a gift for all, but many were called, but few chosen.....
The sermon on the mount alone is largely responsible for this idea of individual freedom and rights.. This notion that humans have inherent value and deserve love didn’t really exist until Christ came along. It was totally radical, and in many ways still is
The Cross symbolizes the conquering of death by Christ.
The key is to keep the knowledge of Christ going in an increasing pagan world .
@@DoomsdayClockRadio the job of the god was probably to reinforce the behaviours of their ‘clients’ . Therefore we’re fairly malleable to any human trait .
There was a tumblr post about kindness and compassion being the strongest act of rebellion against a brutalist regime. As someone put it: "Mr Rogers was the essence of punk"
The “way of the cross” is transcending our sufferings by surrendering identification with our bodies, is the path to enlightenment and God
No what you just described is not Christianity; It’s some eastern tradition. Our bodies are not our own, they are God’s creation and He gave us life for His Son and through Jesus Christ and His atoning sacrifice we are cleansed by His wounds, if we accept Him as Lord over all. That He condescended to walk this earth, (Emmanuel- God with us) and fulfilled the O.T. laws perfectly, healed the sick/lame in all of Israel, demons came out in the 1,000’s as he walked with His disciples in the lands beyond and they knew exactly Who He was and stated what His purposes for being here was. He gave up His life, but before He took His last breath forgave a thief (they don’t go to heaven btw) and told him today you will be with me in paradise. We walk this earth in tents which hold His Spirit as we live to serve Him, worship Him in song and thanksgiving as He works in us through His Spirit His holiness, until He brings us home.
🤓
"I have all power over heaven and earth." Jesus Christ.
That is how he triumphed. If you had that power, would you choose to suffer?
Can see the perspective of the cross representing torture.. for me it's a reminder of what Jesus did on that cross and surely I can sacrifice also 🙏 💯 ❤
This is always what God does. God's ways are not our ways, his thoughts are not our thoughts.
Everything we think is good and right and just in our flesh is actually against the very true fabric of God's reality.
You can't earn salvation. But to the human that sounds false.
But in reality, it's a gift if God through Jesus Christ our lord.
Because what could you truly do to earn it? Give money? Time? How much? How many good deeds?
Only Christ crucified the hope of glory
Buddy you don't even know what a god is - and Jesus most likely never existed. There is no "salvation". It's all just a bad story.
That's sick. IF a God likes that exists, he is truly evil. And since he makes the rules, human sacrifice is just unnecessary.
@@TedTheAtheist 1 Jesus Christ existed historically and 2 this guy is probably a protestant cuz he got it all wrong. We can achieve salvation by faith and works. By believing in god, by cleansing ourselves from sins and by doing deeds that reflect our faith we can be saved. God bless ( from an orthodox Christian).
@@MLdoktor don't believe the words of a protestant Christian, they've misinterpreted the word of god. We can be saved by faith and works. Believing in god goes hand to hand with acting as a believer of god. God bless you, from an orthodox Christian.
@@LSSD1292 who are you to say they are wrong? Heard about the no true scotsman fallacy?
The cross doesnt reprsent the powerless triumphing over the powerful... Jesus was all powerful and chose to die for us.
Death is nothing because we are not bodies.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit
The cross was not just a symbol of torture and power over the powerless, it was a symbol of GOVERNMENT power and torture. In the end, it was GOVERNMENT power that crucified Jesus. That makes the appropriation and subversion of the symbol of the cross even more mind-bending.
Which is why the LDS use the symbol of the resurrected Living Christ and not the cross
The cross symbolizes the death of the flesh. Renouncing your fleshly desires. I find it to be the perfect symbol.
Except that Jesus wanted us to end the sin of the flesh with forgiveness, not sacrifice.
.. "If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent"
The cross is also an unfurled cube
When did Tom Holland get so old? Did i time travel or did he? 😂 Spiderman 😂 🕸️
Christianity's message is so counterintuitive as to be nearly unbelievable and incomprehensible. But, it persists in the same seeming contradictions insisting it's a paradox instead of contradiction. How could the cross, a horrendous means of death, become the symbol of entrance into everlasting life and love and and the tomb, the solid symbol of the absolute darkness of endless death become the very place of resurrection and the destruction of death? Do we really believe that the ignorant, unlettered men of Galilee concocted this? Now, that would be an absolute leap of faith.
Can parallel it to our better natures rebelling & triumphing over our inclination towards sin
Christianity is to do what is right regardless of the consequences and love our enemies.
Christ is risen!
The cross is NOT synonymous with all Christians. There are at least 14 million Christians who do NOT adopt the cross as a symbol for Christ. They believe in Him and HIs teachings and worship him.
Jesus is Lord over Caesar
JESUS CHRIST IS THE CREATOR AND SUSTAINOR OF everything that IS created
@D no, you are quite ignorant. First of all, my comment isn’t directed to Constantine. Second, what you don’t know is that at that time in history, there was an unfortunate misconception among the average Christian converts that baptism washed away your sins and so Constantine superstitiously put off his baptism as long as he could because he wanted to make sure it “stuck.” So, far from revealing a careless approach to religion, it actually is reflective of how seriously he took it, even if his practice of baptism was misguided.
The people who told you otherwise are the ignorant ones who lied to you. Wake up
The view of the cross being a symbol of torture is a very worldly perspective of it. Society sees it as Jesus was killed in such a horrific was so why would we worship the thing that killed him. But as a Christian, we see it as how God sent his only son down to earth and sacrificed him for everyone who was and is to come, and saved them from the burden of our sin. It’s a symbol of the unconditional love God has over us. It shouldn’t be seen as a bad thing. The cross is holy and shall always stay holy.
The cross as the powerless triumphing over the powerful is a weak definition. God pouring out his Son, sacrificing his Son on the Cross. And man now able to be reconciled to God. What we could not do, by our righteousness, but now God has provided a way to save man.
That's the point of a prophet, and every blessed prophet that God ever sent was deployed to upend a society that veered away from worshipping the One God.
When you consider that Saturn is worshiped as a cube by the Jews an Muslims, and can see the cross is an opened up 3d cube with all its 6 sides laid out as a 'cross', you can understand better what the Gnostic 'Demiurge' was about.
I keep starting my copy of Toms book Dominion , but keep being upended by Charles Dickens ( bleak house ) however in my estimation, they are both part of the same continuing narrative.
The cross didn't appear in Christianity until the fourth century CE, up until then Christianity was represented by either a fish or the depiction of a crucifixion.
I think he's missing something important: Christ was not powerless. He could have said one word and instantly had a legion of angels to protect him.
The cross is nothing but fulfilment of prophecy. The true symbol of Christ should be the empty tomb. That empty tomb nullified the cross, it made mockery of the power of Rome - here was true power, unearthly power, the power of God. Death was no longer final, and Christians have not feared it since.
Peter was more concerned about his worthiness in being martyred like his Saviour, than he was of his impending death.
And now Christianity is the complete opposite of what it once was.
That is correct. That has a lot to do with the mark of the beast.
All quite true though an incomplete historical narrative. Christianity actually did play a democratizing role on the world stage, BUT the history of Christianity is much messier and fraught with contradictions than stated here. As it took power in Europe it began to reverse the terms of oppression on non-Christians, inaugurating centuries of brutal rule over them: witness the Crusades, Spanish conquistadores, French, Dutch, and English imperialist expansion, the Treaty of Tordesillas and the Treaty of Zaragoza, all given Biblical justification.
Lesson?: viewing life in black and white is most often simplistic and inaccurate.
The Spanish Inquisition "up ended" that. Hypocrisy is the biggest part of Christianity.
Hypocrisy is a huge part of humanity, you clown, and I say that as an athiest.
So you are saying those who were behind the inquisition were hypocrites because that was not what Christianity was about? So why then are you not a Christian if you use its morality to judge others who clealy are not even Christian?
Theres a msg/warning in the cross as it pertains to the factual balance of life in our 3D reality. Its suggests that humanity, like all life and creation which our reality is bound by, is best served seeking/finding this center balance in all things for the benefit of not just the individual but also the collective.
The cross was actually forbidden to be used against Roman citizens because it was such a brutal death.
The cross is a symbol of Surrender in the midst of suffering.
"I have all power over heaven and earth." Jesus Christ.
That is how he triumphed. If you had that power, would you choose to suffer?
@@robertdouglas8895 He surrendered his ego to God. Instead of trying to bear it himself, he accepted he was ultimately not in control of the outcome and that allowed him to become one with Him
@@intimatespearfisher Why did he feel separate from God? "Why have you forsaken me? "
Because he felt separate from people thinking they were causing his death. "Forgive them for they know not what they do." With forgiveness we can reunite with God and everyone. Then Jesus was ready to go on. It was complete. "Into thy hand I commend my being." So it's forgiveness that reunites us and ends any guilt, not sacrifice.
" If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent."
It's only odd because you don't know the true meaning of the cross.
No, religions are bad.. ESPECIALLY Christianity with the torture device as a symbol.
"I have all power over heaven and earth." Jesus Christ.
That is how he triumphed. If you had that power, would you choose to suffer?
@@mdplady The meaning of the Crucifixion was to replace sacrifice with forgiveness.
.. "If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent"
No, it wasn't the powerful over the weak; it was Rome over Rome's enemies. The Spartacus rebels were hardly "powerless". Defeated, yes; in the end.
"I have all power over heaven and earth." Jesus Christ.
That is how he triumphed. If you had that power, would you choose to suffer?
God using man’s/satan’s evil for His Good. Turning what was meant for evil/power/ glory which is meant to harm on its head. The cross is a powerful statement because our Lord and savior sacrificed himself for our sins so that we may be redeemed through Him. He conquered sin and death and satan in His persecution. All Glory to God.
There is no sacrifice when you know who you are, what you are born of.
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit"
Ruthless people put down by even more ruthless inquisitioners.
Excuse me, what?
I was surprised to see a Cross inside the Colosseum in Rome. And then I read the plaque
Wondering about heads on pikes. Not Rome. Christian England.
the cross is still about a religions of death.
Your first mistake was using a to reference a plural word religions. Remove the a or the s.
Your second mistake was when you assume you knew what you were talking about.
The cross represents how we are to live. Jesus said "to all who have ears to hear, pick up your cross and follow me" meaning how we were to live. (Selfless)
The cross was merely one of the means of.punishment and authority. The symbol was the fascis. Hence the word "fascism".
Websters New Twentith Century Dictionary lists the meaning of the cross as death.
Thumbnail 😂
Modern “Christian”are a whole other story..
The cross is certainly a image people worship. Therefore it is detestable to God Almighty who told you not to make idols of any sort.
I think Christianity and it’s history has both it’s positive side and it’s evil side. In the end one must look at it as it is today not at what it was.
Yet it only works when you add non-demonstrable magic to the story. In some sense, Quidditch gives me hope too, that teenagers will one day learn to become powerful and rise up to use magic to vanquish the evils threatening us.
Ironic that you choose Harry Potter in your example to mock. Harry Potter has so many biblical references within it, and contains within it so many biblical allegories. JK Rowling has said as much.
Christ is Risen from the dead, trampling down Death by death, and upon those in the tomb bestowing Life.
Where's the spiderman guy?
Ikr click bait
@@_JamesMorrell_ The guy talking is Tom Holland. There's more than one Tom Holland in the world
Just imagine if Jesus had happened today.. Christians might be wearing a symbol of Christ sitting in an electric chair around their necks..
It's the same question blacks are asked about the "N-word."
Which N word?
@@Anglisc1682 Is this a Rhetorical question?
`Louis CK sent me here.
Link?
What is he babbling on about. The cross is the symbol of victory of our saviour
Jesus said, "take up your cross and follow me" . Jesus "endured" the cross for the joy that was set before Him. The cross nulifies all my thinking of my having a hard life. The One Who knew no sin BECAME sin for us. The Roman government had no power to crucify Him. He could have called 12 legions of angels. Jesus willingly took the place and punishment for EVERY last sin commited by mankind and with no resistance gave His life for us ALL. He made the open door for anyone who would accept the fact that they have sinned, fallen short of the Glory of God, repent of their wickedness and like the their on the cross with a heart knowing its undeserved realize they cannot save themselves ask Jesus for His salvation.
what a weird and vapid answer to the question.
dude just hates Christianity
bro just ask a Christian
I proudly believe in God
I do find the idea of venerating the cross weird too. It’s like a parent keeping the weapon that killed their son in their house because it reminds them about their son.
Christians moved to burning at the stake
Still all wood themed
That was not christianity
@@polasboek it was
Many many times
A lot of women would very much disagree with you a lot of very badly burnt women
@@_JamesMorrell_ nope. That was not Christianity. Christianity centres around Jesus and not one of those atrocities were done in the name of Jesus. Humanism, Gnosticism and superstition are squarely where the fault lies.
@@Jcremo it was
It was also Christians who gassed the Jews in ww2
Christianity has been nothing but a blight on humanity the fact you can't see that shows how deeply indoctrinated you are into it I pity you.
Subject yourself to the rule of a fictional being that wants to burn you if you don't do exactly what it wants.
And every culture before that was even more ruthless, so calm down 😅😅
Is cutting out every natural pause in your speech Evil?
Trouble is, Jesus was killed on a stake, not a cross. This was created by the Nicean creed after the 3rd century.
Not very humble of you, humble hombre, to come out with such a statement as if it was absolutely certain, which is not. John 20 says “nails through his hands”, and it would have been only “nail” in the singular, not plural, if it had been simply a pole, or a stake. Let’s try to be humble.
To think that the cross was a statement about class is to miss the point. The only classes represented here is the lone righteous one dying for sinners.
Kinda doubt it - yeah if you are jesus you survive - but if you are a peasant - even if you were jesus - rome will always get you! - and as a normal peasent you'd get tortured to death
thus the victim mentality was started
So much study just to show ignorance. So many words just to create confusion and lie.
Every Christian knows that the cross means the sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice is the culmination of His work. Very simple.
That's a dead narrative that never had any meaning....wake up
Christianity makes me sad dude, none of makes any sense to me
All faith is utter delusion and boy is this guy deluded!
He never said he is himself a christian. He just wrote the book about the changes christianity brought to the world.
Today Christianity has become the torturers
Meaning it’s NOT Christianity but a counterfeit and/or caricature of it. It’s quite simple to see a/o any preconceived notions. Please try.
@@adelekeadeyemi881 Yes it is Christianity. Absolutely is.
I especially like the roman salute.
Someone said that Jesus was Jesus, but Paul is the creator of the Christ (his epistles were actually written before the Gospels) in that the Christian outreach effort can be first ascribed to him. But then there's the countless anonymous early Christians who gave shape to Christianity through their own work (including the authors of the Gospels, and the preachers who developed the early rituals and symbols) culminating with the Council of Nicaea, where Christianity is formalized and continues to evolve, but now as the official religion of the land.
What nonsense is this?
Paul created the Christ?
Is that what you think?
Try again brother.
@@MrLeftfootlouie please reread my comment carefully, leaving all hysteria aside
OK, understood, so no more of these horrible crucifixions. Instead, for the evil heretics who challenged the power of the organised christianity, burning alive. That's what I call progress.
TOO RIGHT! 100%
That last line show how little sense this Symbolism makes. I recommend reading Nietzsches Genealogy of Morals. The Christian Cross is not a symbol of rebellion, but of humility and the embracing of weakness, salvation through sacrifice and the surrender of control. It has nothing to do with slaves rebelling their masters. To see Christianity as anything but a religion of the weak is a joke in itself. Christianity upholds Weakness over strength because the people were worth nothing, it seems a lot still feel this way...
UTTER BS
uh...this guy doesn't really know about history. Roman's or any culture, really didn't use the cross to crucified people. they just got nailed to a wooden pole or tree. why would Roman's use the symbol of a religion they didn't believe in until emperor Constantine.
Run from the Jehovahs witnesses and stop spreading their lies. I mean in all seriousness this is so obviously nonsense that it’s a giveaway that the religion is a cult
The man is a literal historian who’s written best selling books on Christianity and Ancient Rome. I think he does ‘know about history’.
@@masterchief3024 stop being a sheep and do research on your own.
Hence why the powerful have destroyed Christianity all over the west