FL5 Honda Civic Type R COBB Accessport OTS 93 Tune - Track Driving Impressions
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-315 horsepower @ 6500 rpm, 310 lb-ft of torque from 2600 to 4000 rpm
-6-Speed Manual Transmission
-Curb weight: 3188 lbs
-MPG: 22 City / 28 Highway
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The Civic! Born in 1972 as everyone’s favorite grocery-getter… and now, look what the years have brought. I offer my admiration to Honda’s engineering team.
you should buy a Hyundai Elantra N to fight the Honda engineering team
LOVED.
which is a better color.. Sonic grey or Champion white?
Thank you Topher! Long time fan of your channel :) Your series from the Si to the Type R convinced me to trade my 22 civic sport hatch for a 24 FL5! Best decision I've ever made and the only cars I've ever fallen this hard for are triple if not quadruple the price range. Keep up the awesome videos! You're such a source of knowledge and inspiration for the Type R community!
which is a better color.. Sonic grey or Champion white?
@@ahmedabdulaziz7271either one man. Depends what you like
Good call on the octane bump. In the WRX world, a lot of folks use the 91 OTS tune and still fill with 93, since the quality of 93 varies so much. Car looks fun! I feel like I have Gingerman memorized at this point lol
I used to do the same in my WRX but realized that in the Midwest we get some ethanol content in our fuel. So I figured that help keep knock down enough to run the full 93. Besides the OTS tunes are built with that safety buffer anyway. They're pretty conservative. A custom full send tune, I can understand the hesitation
I keep it at 91 tune and use 94 most of the time. Accessport def detects less knock this way in my 2014 wrx hatch.
@@maximus9401 The ethanol content is taken account of in the fuel's rated octane rating. I don't think it adds anything extra.
@joby602 how can that be? Even the gas stations don't know how much ethanol is in there. It's always saying may contain up to 10% ethanol. I doubt they'd take into account the ethanol to create the octane rating. It varies too much
which is a better color.. Sonic grey or Champion white?
If Cobb made a tune map for my minivan, I would put it in. You cant go wrong with Cobb.
I'm naming my first kid "FL5 Honda Civic Type R COBB Accessport OTS 93 Tune"
Love the civic videos always!
A fwd car that looks amazing to drive 👌
I suggest doing a datalog with it and check all of the important parameters, if you haven't. If the OTS maps are anything like the Subaru maps, they have the potential to blow the engine over time, since they aren't designed for your exact car, just general parameters. It may be different for a stock car vs having mods, though. That may also just be a Subaru thing, since their tunes need to be perfect for else they risk being blown because Subaru.
Agree, its OTS and not a true custom tune taking in elevation and fuel. Would check AFRs and fuel trims to see if the car is happy.
Same thing with mazdaspeed 3s, made a pretty big difference once I switched to a tailor made e tune instead; better throttle response, power, and less knock.
@TheTopher I know that others have commented on this too, and I’m curious if you’ve answered anyone as I haven't seen your response.
I’ve owned two previous turbo four-cylinder cars (a VA WRX & a Fiesta ST) that Cobb supported via the access port. I utilized a Cobb access port on both of those cars.
Cobb does a very nice job for street use, but for track duty you will want a custom tune. Cobb tunes are created to operate “within a safe range”, but for how you are driving on track I wouldn’t trust an OTS map that is pushing additional boost and timing while being at WOT and higher rpm's for extended periods of time.
I’m positive that an OTS tune file is safe enough for street use but perhaps work with your preferred tuner sooner than later for something that is more custom to utilize on track. I’ve seen on my previously mentioned cars via data logs that the AFR's can vary widely with some troubling knock readings when going WOT in higher rpms on a Cobb OTS tune file. I'm not tuner but seeing the knock events and AFR variances when pushing hard was enough to make me seek a professional tune.
At least verify if you haven't already that the OTS tune is safe with some datalogging. That would make an interesting episode showing what your 93 octane OTS tune is doing while on track!
That's a good point, I was thinking about getting a custom tune before next season, even if it's just to gain a bit more power. The initial data log I ran looked great, but that was with just a couple hard pulls to redline, not extended track driving.
@@TheTopher I own a ‘24 DE5 and will be watching for your additional FL5 Cobb/tuning related videos with enthusiasm. Thanks for the excellent reviews and content.
second !! ✌️
I think my first car is a honda civic but in blue. Your so good at driving. Im so cared for some reason. But i need to get to places. 😂
I like the Elantra N but being my car would be my daily Honda reliability vs Hyndai. It’s a no brainer
Great car of all time this type r
maquina perfecta. yo CIVIC X red ok.
Did you have to get your ecu unlocked before tuning it?
Hi, what tire pressure are you running for track with the Cup 2 front and rear?
i need to figure out how to use the Honda log features.
@TheTopher Do you have a dash cam in your car?
Does all of the mods; i.e;tune, intake void warranty?
After Cobb tried with the 8th Civic platform and dropped the support because it could not compete against Hondata,
I will not risk my money.💴
Have you taken your FL5 to grattan yet? If so, what are your thoughts on the FL5 there? Weird track for sure.
I took it there earlier this year! Super fun track imo, but that bump right before the front straightaway is brutal. I heard they just repaved it, so very curious to drive it next season.
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is there any chance you could review a 2009-2015 nc miata non sport the one with the lsd
Knowing there isn’t a true dedicated oil temp sensor, but an algorithm that considers load and many other factors to determine a theoretical temp, do you have any further concerns with the extra power/tune?
Or figuring just send it and see how things go?
Just going to send it! I typically do a few cooldown laps throughout a session and run with a/c off. We'll see how it continues to perform next season on some hotter days.
I've never had a tuneable car before and now have a 23 wrx, I am of course always considering the cobb ap. It doesn't seem like these power bumps on an otherwise stock car are really that likely to cause mechanical issues and I don't understand why cars like the vb wrx aren't more aggressively tuned from subaru? Am I missing how this could possibly be adding that much sketchiness to a stockish type r or wrx?
I bought a 2015 wrx base new, and got the AP and a MAP performance OTS 93 tune at around 10k miles. I live in PA, so its easy to find 93 and thats all I've ever used. Now I have about 107k miles and the car runs great. Really scoots especially 1st gear.
If I were you I would get a professional custom tune, if you want to maximize performance and keep it safe. Especially on a wrx!!
Best video, correction, best video GAME ever
Wow I’m early
Nice flat easy track
Local track in GA here has extreme elevation drop followed by a hairpin corner.
Eats tires and brakes
$50k membership too
Lol
Surprised you’re not past -2 in front for cornering grip. I’ll be doing -2.5 for next season in my Accord for autox. -1.8 us not enough
Did you notice any difference in mpg with this tune during normal driving?
Need to put some more miles on the car, but seems to be about the same on first impressions
Another dig at the Elantra N 😅
The fact that they are consistently compared given the price disparity is a huge nod to the EN. In Canada, we're talking more than a 60% cost differential on the used market.
Don’t get me wrong, still love the Elantra N. Can’t beat the value.
To comment on this, it was relevant because I was co-driving his Type R that day so there were bound to be a lot of comparisons. From a driving dynamics perspective, the Type R is something special and has tons of advantages over the Elantra N. It's sharper, it communicates better, brake feel is better (more on that in a sec), and has more mechanical grip due to the dual axis front strut as opposed to the Elantra's Macpherson strut. With similar mods, I'd guess it's about a second quicker at Gingerman all things being equal. That being said, this video focuses on driving dynamics, when there's obviously much more to a vehicle than just that. While the CTR is a better vehicle dynamically it also has some large shortcomings - Complete lack of engine/exhaust sound, no heated seats in a nearly 50K car, in order to not literally melt the brakes on track you have to do an absolutely laughable pedal dance (since it uses the brakes to assist in turn-in etc.), my brother and I could not get android auto to work properly on either of our phones, and some more. So pick your poison, they are both excellent cars.
@@TheTopher Just like you can't beat the "value" of Colt 45 malt liquor. But...
Why Cobb versus Hondata? Any reason? Im thinking of tuning my FK8 after 6 years
Hondata is the best. He only has Cobb because it was free. Get Hondata with the TSP or Phearable tune
4th comment!
which is a better color.. Sonic grey or Champion white?
SGP. White is too off-white.
You need an exhaust
I have that car
What oil viscosity are you running? Oil temp looks great!
I usually run 5w30, but had Honda 0w20 in this fill
@@TheTopherhow reliable do you think this tune will be on your FL5?
Can you do pov and driving impressions in the 2025 toyota highlander hybrid limited 25th anniversary please?
This tune should be the stock option on the type r, a 50k "performance" car should not be slow.
get a model 3 performance if you want straight line power.
I’ve never heard anyone refer to this car as slow…
@@_chipchip it is slow for the price. You have the new ram 1500s with the twin turbo v-6 0-60 in 4.2 sec. This is a truck!! You must live under a rock, every new car is fast nowadays.
@@superbros1690 so then go buy a ram then lol. In case you haven't noticed, some people buy cars for more than a 0-60 time on a spec sheet.
@@ShaiyanHossain clearly your missing the point.
Recall king
Elantra N better on track anyway 😅 all championships gettin by it and a fun ones