TikToker in Perfect Relationship Accused Of CLEANING Crime Scene For Her BF’s Alleged Double Murder
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I’m ashamed to say that in my 26 years of life, I never thought to put together that interpol meant international police 😭.
The first step in healing is admitting you’re ashamed 🤣😭🫶
For the longest time i thought they were like the FBI of the UK so 😂😂😂
@@suan333i thought this because of criminal minds
Don't worry, nothing shameful about that and I mean it - I didn't know what a fob watch was until I was 24...but I had a degree in Modern Languages - like, what....!? You learn something new everyday.
@@aud2 Yeah!! And Sherlock!! 🤣
I love how no matter how many cases you read him, your husband is always just completely mind blown 😂
looool same! I love it every time he's like 'NO WAY!'
@@jok7548 I just finished the Masked Girl Baking a Mystery video and she legit had that man screaming cause he was just so thrown off cause of how crazy the story was 😂😅
Lol seriously im jaded as a mf
Lol me too, 😂 She’s such a good storyteller so I’m at the edge of my seat going 😱wow and whaaaat along
Husband!? Dammit
It's so crazy to think that one of my favorite true crime podcasters is covering a case involving a girl I knew and graduated high school with...
Wow
Thats mind blowing to me.
What was she like back then
@@tamamshud5879i read from the comments that she was very likeable kind and very popular on high school
Were you close with her?
The "is the garage door closed" thing is ABSOLUTELY code for "did you finish the murder" and you can't convince me otherwise
This is my exact thought 💭
100 per centttt
I actually knew her personally because we grew up in the same community. I think a lot of people can agree with me when I say that she chose to help him. He provided her the lifestyle she always wanted and she didn't want to lose it.
holy shit- could i ask what people thought of her growing up? we’re there any signs or did anyone find her to be odd?
i’m really interested in how killers/criminals are made (i’m a writer, lol) so if you happen to remember anything you feel like sharing, i’d love to hear about it-!!
of course you don’t have to if you’re uncomfortable with the idea, especially considering this case still open, but i figured i’d ask just in case!!
Oh my, I'm sorry it was someone you knew :c Must feel horrible and strange
@@kirbysthiccthighsI actually knew her in highschool. She was really well liked by people in our graduating class and she was very kind. I would conisder her popular at our school and she also graduated in the top ten percent. She did not have any tell tale signs of being involved with criminal activity like this.
@@JonNotJon i see- thank you so much for sharing!!!
@@JonNotJonthat’s crazy tho, seeing someone you went to school with and thought positive about being involved in murder. 😅
PLEASE DO A PART 2 WHEN THE TRIAL IS DONE! and when all of the information is public, or available to you!!!
Agreed! It’s kinda sad that most cases gets forgotten when the “hype” is gone and we never get closures cuz no one makes videos/talks about them anymore..
Yes please
no bec this literally happened with amber and johnny depp@@katya5573
YES
@@katya5573fr
Asian locals in Texas know Kathy and her fake personality, she has scammed and used people with her outgoing and goody goody traits. We are absolutely not siding with her as she thoroughly enjoyed her lavish lifestyle. Very unfortunate that she’s out on bail. It’s crazy how big this case has gotten, but glad more people are covering it. I hope justice is served for the victims and their family.
wait but what happened i’ve been seeing people comment this a lot but how has she scammed people?!
@@natfloures4805she was on a pyramid scheme. She scammed a lot of people in school
that’s very true my parents knew her and her parents
I thought she looked like a dishonest pos. Still got that crime radar 😉
Of course she thoroughly enjoyed her lavish lifestyle, who wouldn't?
The way the internet infantilizes women is insane. She's clearly old enough to know better. She's 23 not 12.
Imagine dating someone who turns out to be a murderer, I can only imagine how soul crushing that may be
WHY TF R U EVERYWHERE BRO WTF I SAW U 7 TIMES TIDAY
@@hellokittyiesssIKR
@@hellokittyiesssif you’ve seen him everywhere 7 times today, doesn’t that also make you being everywhere? 🤣
@@hellokittyiesss picking up more followers/subs from other channels by commenting on trending and about-to-go-viral posts. A very common thing that a lot of TH-camrs do.
Ya'll have no lives.
Its so ironic she gave relationship advice just for her bf to royally screw up her life and leave her with the mess. This is crazy.
I was literally just thinking this,the whole time people are pointing fingers at her and are calling her names,the real culprit(her so called boyfriend) decides to leave her in the country and try to act like he's living a normal life,while she got fired from her job,and can't even contact anyone,plus she's been put on house arrest all because of her insane bf
wanting "revenge" on someone
She asked for it because based on locals who knew her personally she did a lot of people dirty on her own and when she meet him she looked past the fact that he was a criminal because the lifestyle he was providing. She knew he was a shitty person and didn’t think twice about leaving him. She’s no victim.
Let's be honest - most relationships women have with men require them to ego boost and center them. She was already crooked, so this gave her the additional thrill she was looking for. She is no different than most rich women married to mob boss and Holllyweirdo males
Crazy thing is, she wasn't necessarily wrong about some of the stuff she said. Before I met my husband (well technically the boyfriend before him) I attracted bums and would be putting way more into the relationship than I got out of it. I was that "Independent Strong Woman". Now I enjoy a soft life that I love and wish I would've learned better sooner. You have to be smart though. There are PLENTY of men who will treat you like a princess and not expect you to do crime with them! REAL protectors and providers do exist, this girl just made BAD decisions. Soon as she saw what kind of mess he was into she should have cut and run! More fish in the sea.
Also this is not taking shots at women who like to pay all the bills or do 50/50 or whatever. I hope everyone gets the relationship that works for them. Not everyone wants the same thing. I'm just saying for the ladies who do want that, don't think that you have to be with a shitty guy like this. You CAN have it all with a good guy. Raising standards is not the problem here.
your husband asks all the questions that are on my mind, I love this.
Same.
The smile that spreads across her face when he asks, "What does as thick as theives mean," is so precious. The way she gets so happy to teach him things is so funny and cute. I love their dynamic, they always do so wonderful!
Thick as thieves, means they have each other’s backs, or conversely that they could ALL get each other in trouble, in the sense that since they are all guilty of something, they aren’t going to be useful in busting anyone else - see also, most governments and nasty workplaces. #cronyism
Not that you didn’t know that, just sticking that here. 👍🏿
The last relationship I was in was so toxic I finally convinced myself. The man I was with was capable of killing me, so I left.
So proud of you ! I hope your doing better now and living the life you deserve ❤️
YOU GO GIRL! You could be right bums like that are dangerous, callous. Because if he doesn’t care about harming you emotionally or physically then he can be capable of killing you.
So happy for u💗💞
Glad you were able to get away from a relationship like that.
Proud of you :)
The fact she just started posting TikTok’s after cleaning up a murder scene shows how heartless she is
one dimensional view of morality
@@helenvanelike she could be afraid for her life that if her boyfriend did that what he could do to her. I'm not defending her but there's so much that could have been happening
@@valeriaitzeluriostegui2461why would she Keeping making videos-
Like if this is was happening wouldn’t she want to not take up any attention and fade into the darkness?
@LiaMills-fw2ey it could be that she was terrified by what he did, and was scared he might do the same thing to her. She may have just been pretending to be normal in order to prove to him that she wasn't going to snitch, while figuring out her next step.
Who knows tho. That's just speculation. What they did were disgusting 😢 I feel so sorry for the victims and families!
@@LiaMills-fw2ey a possibility is that, if something so shocking, scary and traumatic happened, she might find things that can keep her busy and keep her from thinking about it. Almost denying the reality.
It's tricky especially she's obviously emotionally so connected with her boyfriend.
We definitely need a follow up on updates on this to have some more insite, it's hard to claim things right now.
If she helped, then she should be jailed.
I hate that people are more or less trying to absolve her of all responsibility and was just "doing whatever her boyfriend told her". She's a grown woman and can say no to something unhinged like cleaning up a murder that happened in her own house and not calling the police on her boyfriend (if that's what happened). Society needs to stop babying these influencers and treating them like toddlers.
Idk, if I was in that situation I would def say yes out of fear, however I would have ran when I went to the store to get supplies and called the police, so she was probably super scared but still needs to be held accountable though she’s not as accountable as her bf
@@Scovi68 She absolutely does. If you're a grown adult and your husband/wife starts feeding your baby bleach and you just stand there and watch, you're just as guilty as the person pouring the liquid.
@@Scovi68no I doubt it. I got to know her for a year, I was a sophomore and she was a senior in high school. Her history with boys was not so good. I also met her younger sister and let me tell u, first and last time I talked to her
I disagree. If anyone comes across their boyfriend who just murdered a person and told them to clean it up, everyone would clean it up cause they know that refusing it would result in their death.
@@froggy6845 That's not true but okay, let's just make excuses for women because they're feeble and defenseless 🤷♀
Hey Stephanie! For the forensics team to find James' body in the trunk later is actually pretty fast. You have to have a warrant in certain states for other property outside of the home. So a car is technically outside of the house, which normally a judge accepts rather quickly. However, forensics teams are extremely small like maybe 1 team lead and two other people to prevent as much cross contamination as possible (movies and shows do not depict this accurately). It takes longer because the priority for forensics is the house because they have the first visual victim found and an abundance of relevant evidence (which is a higher priority, unless there was a trail of blood leading to the boot of the Pruis). The team has to go through multiple scenarios to swab potential items and less relevant items throughout the home first. Because the money was still in the freezer and the drugs were in the house the forensics teams had to swab any item that could relate to a drug sale gone bad or any other scenario items for evidence. Then the same team will go through the vehicle after they are done in the home. This is to have less people being involved with the case, which could contaminate evidence, which if proven "too contaminated or tempered" would have it thrown out in trial. Which would give less leverage to the SP to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and to get the harshest punishment possible.
My theory of what happened: I believed James owed Poly the $40,000 because that would make sense why Dana came down with $36,000 from his dispensary in Oregon and 125 lb of weed and 40lbs of the hash oil. I think at that point James had a deadline to give Poly the money so James hit up Dana asking for help, so Dana pulled out $36,000 and weed to flip so that they could make up the rest with interest for Poly. So poly made James meet up with him at Kathy's place (because to him she could be dispensable or won't say anything because she benefits from his money) and said he better have the money. James shows up without the money but tells Poly that his boy Dana brought down the 36 and the drugs to flip to give to poly with interest. Now Poly was probably inpatient and killed James and went to James' house to kill Dana because Dana would know that James went to meet up with Poly and would snitch, so they did that purely for not getting caught, not the cash.
Why they didn't take the money: And the reason why they couldn't take the money is because in Oregon marijuana dispensaries are legal, so Dana most likely has a business account at the bank. So Dana most likely took the 36 from the business account (each bill has a serial number on it that the bank reports in its system automatically so it would be traceable, which would confirm that Poly killed James.
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Your insight was literally what my friends and I thought as well!
@@panditaaa27 It's just the only way that made sense to me
not taking the money is even more of a slap in the face to the victims. they really died for no reason... i wonder if kathy's bf just intended to kill both of them from the start, and the owed money was just a lure.
omg this is such a very informative and intriguing comment. may i ask if you studied forensics, law, or anything of that sort? or do you work in any related field? i'm really curious.
thank you for your comment though! that got me really thinking. a new perspective to ponder on definitely
This ^
As a resident in Vietnam, I can confirm that the Ajumas are a great source of capturing small or big crimes around here 😅 we had a saying that "if there's a disturbance in the household, the neighbors would be the first to know"
Ah, the old "curtain mafia".
ajumas?
I'm pretty sure it means something like grandmas?@@user-ij5sp4zv5h
I feel terrible for the victims and their families, may they rest in peace. I love your videos Stephanie.
Drug dealers deserve 0 sympathy
@@ricedratiny7796they were still murdered. murder is murder. and it doesn't change the fact that the victims have families that care about them and are hurting
@@ricedratiny7796what a great person you are
@Alex-zp3kxbot
@@10oas.a
Iodine is not a cleaning product! It is usually used in a diluted form to ensure that cuts, grazes or scratches don't get infected. It is sometimes used as a throat gargle to try to strip out any infectious bacteria or mucus.
Iodine is a dark brown to black before it is diluted and has an orange colour once it is diluted. You would never use it to clean anything as it has an incredible ability to stain anything and everything!
Iodine fuming is use for developing latent fingerprints
It could have been used to wipe off non-absorbent materials (eg. metal, non-porous ceramics, glass…) in order to disinfect them… or she was unfamiliar with it and thought it was similar to peroxide (i.e. not realizing how to use it)???
We use it to clean the udders of
dairy cows before milking… and it does not stain the ceramic parlour walls or the cement floors when washed off without too much delay.
Just had an experiment in chemistry titrating ascorbic acid with Iodine, can ABSOLUTELY confirm! It stains like it’s a concentrated ink 🥲
I truly believe with her smooth brain she meant peroxide and was too uneducated to realize the difference between the two.
I actually went to the same school as her, she was two grades below me but my sister knew her personally & as soon as this story hit the news, everyone I went to school with just started making fun of her, so I would say it’s probably safe to assume that there’s more to her than the innocent act since no one was really shocked but more amused by her situation
it could be she was a bad person, or that they already bullied her and found her odd.
entire asian community in texas knows about this case. it's insane. how nice of stephanie to portray kathy in a more positive light than most in texas know her for haha (both past shit she's done to ppl and the fakeness from socials). many found it difficult to feel sorry for her once this all happened... hope she learns her lesson though.
I dont like the vibe Im getting, just saying 😅
My friend knew her bf 😭😭 it’s a small world here in Houston
this!!!!! karma a bitch fr
Tell us non-locals about these ppl. What do u know?
SPILL OMG
what past shit shes done to ppl and fakeness??
Bleach, peroxide, trash bags, and iodine are the most sus things you can buy in a group on any day ngl. If I was the checker ringing up these items I'd say something like "you forgot to buy gloves for your murderer starter kit"
i don't under what is the iodine for, i understand the bleach and the peroxide but why iodine?
@@naranjo5277 Iodine fuming can be used to develop fingerprints and it can be used to develop fingerprint s on human skin..So maybe they wanted to visualise and clean any possible fingerprints on the body???
@@khushboogautam1091 but doesn't that use the element iodine, not like iodine cleaner?
Kathy and her family went to the same Catholic church community in Houston as my family. Her sister went to the same UT Dental School in San Antonio with my cousin. Everyone knows about their fake personalities. This girl is nothing better than a low class spoil brat. How can you tell a grown woman cannot make her own decision. I hope justice serves right in this case.
im so curious about her sister Stephanie. I used to follow her because she was a “dental student influencer” and because of all of this she went private.
Do you have proof of this? So many people said they actually knew her or was in the same place as her or what not
@@femaledenki6196yeah and even more people who’ve said they met her said she was super kind and sweet and they had absolutely no clue she could be mixed up in anything like this
I was a "ride or die" girlfriend to a boyfriend that was always up to shady things in my early 20s like it is NOT a good thing at all
feel terrible for the victims and their families, may they rest in peace and hopefully we have more info on the other two soon!
Same here I feel so bad
Drug dealers deserve 0 sympathy
@@ricedratiny7796its weed...😅🙄
@ricedratiny7796 they're not drug dealers. They are vegetable sellers. Marijuana is a vegetable.
@@tv-21
I laughed
ABOUT THE CAR: TX has very strict laws about warrants. A warrant to search a house doesn't include an attached garage, AND even if it does list the garage, they also must specifically list each vehicle and cargo area.
Cars are NOT easier to get probable cause and in the state of TX a car is considered a separate residence.
They more than likely TOWED the car, because they wouldn't have had permission to get in it.
It is a lot of red tape, but the investigators will wait (particularly if they already have a body and things to be looking into) because the one time they rush it will be the one time the judge throws out the search at trial because you didn't dot all your I's.
Yes! Especially because at the time, they didn’t know if James was the killer for his friend, since they couldn’t find him and the friend’s car was taken. Warrants do not encompass one whole thing, like a house. If you find a phone or laptop in the house then you’ll probably need another warrant for that electronic. If officers do not follow everything in a specific way, especially in a murder case, important things may get thrown out at trial because it “wasn’t correctly done.”
Also, the Supreme Court does not recognize any state with a "murder" clause related to the 4th Amendment.
If the car was not included in the original search warrant then they could not search it unless they had probable cause they thought a person was in it and thought to be in trouble. (i.e. Blood on car, noises coming from car) they would have to get a seperate search warrant for that car and it could take days because they would have to prove why they needed it since it wasn't in the original. This is my knowledge based on my state's law, Ohio, but would assume it is the same or more difficult process in Texas. And also with discussions I've had with my brother who is an officer.
Can you consider covering the Taylor Parker case? a pregnant women was murdered and the baby taken from her to be raised as murderers own.
OMG I want to know about this!!!
@@lamoskgr Basically Taylor parker killed her friend, took the baby from her womb, and was planning to raise this baby as her own. She was telling everyone she was pregnant on social media even though she wasn’t but some were skeptical about it from the start. Stole the baby to prove to everyone she really was pregnant - but she’s pretty much a narcissistic liar. Anyways there’s more to the story and it gets weirder and weirder the more you dig. Rip to the victim and family. Should never have happened.
I think she covered this on her podcast years ago
@@glumplum591I haven’t seen anything if she did. This happened in 2020 and trial in 2022 I think.
@@glumplum591 that’s another one! Unfortunately there is a case similar to this one.
I am not even into crime stories at all but I’m binge watching all Stephanie’s. She and her husband are so good! I love how eloquent, compassionate and professional she is (doing her research, always speaking respectfully about all the involved people, honouring the victims with their background stories)...the husband has a lovely voice, calm and respectful , always asking the right smart questions (for us)at the right times. Stephanie makes even ads sound entertaining! Love these 2 ❤️❤️
From someone who started binging her content last night: I also love that she puts the focus on the victims and their loved ones and is always against glamorizing such heinous acts
why do people commit crimes and then feel absolutely no remorse? 🤦♀️
Sociopath/ psychopaths
Men*
@@MsLunachu Nah, people*, it's not a gender thing.
@@MsLunachu yeah its not a mEn thing 😃
@@graziella1224look at the stats.
Hi Stephanie, I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I have a case suggestion. Some days ago in Greece a man named Antonis Karyotis was literally pushed off the boarding ramp by the ferry crew at the port Piraeus, right in front of hundreds of people. There are CCTV videos, videos taken from other passengers and tons of witnesses. The entire country is devastated, he was impaired too. He was so loved by his community, and his family is financially struggling now too. I really love your true crime videos, you are so compassionate yet your storytelling is so engaging :D have a nice day, thank you!!
Wow
Wth 😧
@@tv-21 i know😔
@@passivepanda3656 it's so shocking honestly the cctv footage is so unreal
oh my goodness what the actual eff, thats effed up 💀 im so sorry for the family of the person affected
Quick shout out to Stephanie's fiancé. Thanks for all you do. I appreciate you! The podcast wouldn't be the same without you.
What does he do? I just always hear him listening and trying to understand the story?
"A woman's notes app holds more mystery, intrigue, and truths than any other film."
My notes app: a list of foods that I've eaten in the shower and a detailed plan on how to build a bathtub hammock
Thank you for always covering these cases with such care and detail, you're the only true crime channel I keep up with because it feels like you genuinely care.
I think they all care. Try Kendall Rae, she is very kind and does a lot of charity work, especially for the victims ❤
@@AlissaSss23 I used to watch Kendall’s videos too and yeah she does care a lot as well, I just have poor focus and like the way Stephanie presents the information
I like them all
@@AlissaSss23IMO Steph has a very different approach in her presentation of the stories which I enjoy and appreciate, but I have wondered if she’s done any charity to help the true crime community and or the victims like many of the other creators do.
Ikr
omg can't believe you covered this case because I knew Kathy a few years ago as she was my TA in my catechism class! she was super sweet and very kind and so when I saw her on the news I was shocked because I didn't think she'd be involved in something like murder, thank you for covering this stephanie!
Woah really?
yup, i rmr her crying because she swerved her car on the highway or something@@The_Celestial_Goddess_Of_Stars
It's a small world sometimes! :) But...yeah, 'wow'!
Rosie-
Wow indeed. I watch all Stephs content and many more story tellers about crime,
m u r d e r, C A, and all in between.
I hope I never end up knowing of a person involved even an acquaintance.
Goose bumps.
Church classes no less.
I feel for you.
Much love and respect for your comment.
Omg did you know a girl named Brittany? Short, dark skinned, usually had a pretty wig? She was also in some of Kathys classes and wanted to know more about her
It's actually insane how I had found out, one of my cousins had called me from a state away and ended up telling me the news, and the entire Vietnamese-American community knew about this case almost immediately. it immediately burst into flames and everyone was in absolute shock and disbelief.
glad they fired her.
The dog knew something was wrong, I wish we could go into animals minds in cases like this.
the one thing that's BLOWING my mind is, as an owner of a Prius myself, you can see through the trunk VERY easily, especially if you're even moderately tall. the whole hatchback of it is the rear window, even the flat, dark part above the license plate, it's a window. HOW did they not see???
YES!! Boosting this. First thing my partner said was “ALL THEY HAD TO DO IS LOOK” once you see the body you have probable cause to open the car!!!! This is insane!
Maybe just different, but a close friend of mine had a Prius for awhile in highschool but I never noticed that in hers. It looked like a normal sedan car to me. Just a Prius. Even then though it doesn’t make sense anyway to not look at the car anyway since it had been running and that’s why the neighbor called
I already listened to this on your podcast, but this is so bizarre. The fact that kathy’s boyfriend legit left her there to deal with the police and everything is crazy- but rest in peace for the victims.. hope their families are doing ok
I don’t think her name is carrie
u meant kathy?
@@tv-21bro what 💀
Babeee-
Agreed
@@tv-21what's your only fans?
It's almost as if social media does not give an accurate reflection of reality.
Can I just take a second to say how much I appreciate Stephanie Soo? I was legit crying a few seconds ago about a personal matter and I thought came to mind " What can I do to get my mind off of this ? Stop crying, you're stronger than this, instead, turn to something that you enjoy, something to distract yourself " That's when Stephanie came to mind. I don't really comment, but words alone can't describe how at peace her voice makes me feel and how I can forget about myself and my worries with her storytelling. I'm not writing this message expecting anyone to read it. I just wanted, for once, to express my gratitude to her and wish her nothing but my sincerest best. Thank you for being the light at the end of my tunnel ❤❤❤
Yes, I get that too!
Oh wow.. My sister went to school with this girl right before she graduated.. I would’ve met her too if I was there a year earlier.
My sister said she scammed people and was kinda annoying but she didn’t expect anything like this from her or her man. Crazy..
How did she scam people
I have cancer and on daily inductions,always love listening to your podcasts Steph as they keep me engaged and kinda distracted throughout the sessions,i really enjoy every story it's like you have some magic in story telling it just feels so real
Keep fighting✊✊
praying for youu!
Praying for you! 😌 fighting!
you can do this !!
you got this 🥹🫶🏼
There's a saying in VN that it is never a good country for a hide-out because we'll catch you. Vietnamese people are not actively nosy, but they are walking CCTV! We be watchin' 😂😂😂😂
She took my graduation photos 😭 I was so shocked when I saw the news. Every Asian in Houston was talking about it!!
Its scary to know someone this close to you can do some unspeakable things, be safe out there everyone. And rest in peace victims🕊️
A lot of the people that knew her personally have said that what she shows on Social media isn't how she is in real life. This "Wholesome" personality she shows is really fake. She used people and it's ironic because in the end she was used by her boyfriend.
Never knew it's not normal to clean with bleach I wash my cloths and room every week with alcohol and bleach
Love to hear you telling these storys 😊
Your voice makes it so much easier to follow than everyone I have listen to until this point. I have some problems fall asleep so I'm listening to a lot podcasts and things
As someone who knew her before she blew up on any type of social media … karma is a bitch and she got what she got. Ofc each person has their own connotations about Kathy but I think the way Stephanie reported this story was great. RIP to the victims and we need to remember that this wasn’t just a “Kathy Vu situation” but a crime that has affected people and their families.
Spill girl. Tell us about her.
Im seeing multiple comments like this... let's just say I'm a little relieved that I don't feel bad for her at all, as someone who doesn't know her.
@@suki3637 Me neither. Plenty of people are like "who cares? her bf probably made her" etc.. but seriously, if my bf did something like this, I might clean it if he had a gun pointed at my head, but as soon as he's not physically around me anymore, my ass is going to the POLICE. Not posting tiktoks. They wouldn't have to find me. I'd find them.
I’m pretty sure she knew what field of work her boyfriend was in, and bragging about what she had was a bonus to make money off of Tiktok videos. She knew what she said was controversial and was gonna get views.
Kathy literally never bragged about her boyfriends line of work-not personally or professionally. She actually kept his identity completely private from her content because she wanted to respect his privacy as a person. She was, and continues to be, a very kind and humble person. If you knew anything about her, or did literally any research, you would know that.
@@itstherileyquinni was ready to respond “what kind of humble and kind person helps clean up a crime scene?” and then i clicked on your profile and the fact that you’ve posted several comments under this case defending this lady says enough..
@@jujudoli You obviously have done no research and have no clue what you're talking about. You read the headline 'influencer cleans up crime scene' and ran with it. You clearly didn't even watch this video, because nowhere in the video does Stephanie talk about Kathy 'cleaning up the crime scene'. Why? Because it didn't happen. I have actually read through the public court records. There is NO physical evidence, or any evidence other than circumstantial evidence, that Kathy had anything to do with these murders. She didn't even technically 'clean up' either of the two crime scenes. Her DNA wasn't found at either crime scene, there is no footage or pictures of her at either crime scene, no texts of her even acknowledging either crime. Kathy had nothing to do with this. The ONLY thing linking her to the crime is the fact she bought cleaning supplies for her boyfriend, let her boyfriend use her garage, and let her boyfriend store some things at her apartment.
@@jujudoli Do you even know what either crime scene looks like? I do. I saw photos and read descriptions. They were grisly-and completely intact. Nothing had been cleaned up. The reason she was charged with tampering with evidence is because her boyfriend, under false pretenses, gave evidence from the crime scene to Kathy to store in her apartment. Imagine your boyfriend asking if he could leave his computer at your house. Would your first thought be 'my boyfriend must have killed a man and now he's giving me his victims computer to store'? Obviously not.
@@itstherileyquinnyou’re defending her hard.. relax she doesn’t even know you.
The same people romanticizing kathy and poli are the same ones thinking joker and Harley Quinn are couple goals
I'm dying to know if there's been any updates! I know the justice system is slow, but looking forward to a part 2 after the trial.
Weird that she took a whole bottle of multipurpose cleaner to a club. If she is such a “cleaning freak” she would have taken some sanitizer wipes and it’s also easy to fit in a purse. This cleaning thing could definitely be a cover up. Also never seen people use iodine to clean their house. It’s a product that is usually used in medical settings for disinfecting the skin during pre-op.
Yeah, iodine is a disinfectant but useless as a cleaner since it stains terribly. I was confused by this.
Yes, that's what I buy it (iodine) for....for medical purposes...
I thought maybe one of them was injured so she bought that, but apparently she bought it before the murder, so ?
Iodine is not normally used as a cleaner for surfaces. It contains a dye and is used mainly for sterilization during medical procedures. My mom used to use it when she would cauterize my sisters G-Tube opening. Its hard to consider what it would be used for in this case. I would assume some form of torture. You could prolong infection by sterilizing instruments and contact points with iodine. Thereby keeping the victim of the torture alive for as long as possible. Other than that, I'm stumped.
@@LKGdcyes, I had to Google and look for it in the HEB store because I was so confused. 😂
Iodine is not a cleaning supply. It's used for first aid
It's also not salt. It's added to salt because it prevents goiters.
I guess it can be used as a cleaning supply if mixed with something else?? I don't know really
Iodine fuming is use for developing latent fingerprints
it's so heartbreaking and also disgusting how you never know what people are up to. i actually was acquaintted with Kathy and when I had found out the news, around the time she had posted her birthday tiktok I had wished her happy birthday and she had replied so normally with a sweet thank you, and when I had looked back at our messages and the time of the murder, i wanted to throw up. how can people be so cruel and disgusting. I pray that their families receive immense healing.
Not sure why Stephanie had to make the girl such a “cute innocent influencer” in the beginning of the video.
She stated her reasoning.
Mrs. Mango Butt is NOW DEF My fave True Crime blogger!! This lady commentates exceptionally well and I am always intrigued from beginning to end. I love the cases she chooses and I am never bored. Do your thang girlfriend but dont ever stop bringing real true crime stories. You were born to do this 😊
More like it's their do or die partners instead of thick as thieves 😂
I totally agree! She is a phenomenal storyteller 💯
Her boyfriend makes her an accessory to murder & gifts her a MacBook to say thank you 😂
oh wow the bar was low for that girl
Yeah really low
Hunny I love seeing you THRIVE in your job, and how you make the victims sound like you knew them and bring a tribute to their lives!
This is one of very TH-cam channels on which I don’t interact with the comments section, because I'm too fkn enthralled!!! Even if I've heard the case, Stephanie's version is always so much more captivating. So, hello 👋🏽 Rotten Mango fans 😆. Nice to meet you 🤝.
I live in Vietnam, and Stephanie is absolutely right about the nightlife, needing a meet-up spot for your group if friends. Any rivers that flow next to a city would light up at night so beautifully, I always tried to look at the reflection on the water as I rode past them. We have like 9mil+ people in Ho Chi Minh city so it's also pretty easy to get lost into the crowd
Scary place.
Not all of us have the same morals and Kathy most likely doesn't mind cleaning up the crime scene since it's actually part of her business as the partner of the main suspect. She can easily wear a mask when in front if the camera but can also be a different person off cam. Nothing is what it seems. With all the messages, purchase of cleaning materials and proof that she got gifts from cleaning up the crime scene. This just reminds me of a lot of ladies that have criminal boyfriends, people that I actually personally know. It's all just business to them. Their only main rule is just never get caught.
Steve really knows (I swear I’m not being sarcastic)
@@sigian it's because I've witnessed this type of brutality involving such amount of weed and money, other people's lives don't mean a thing to these people as long as they get what they want in ways that most of us would be horrified to think of. Unfortunately, a lot of cops and politicians also act this way. We live in a deadly society, where monsters are hiding behind different masks. So be very careful in dealing with these type of people, they wouldn't hesitate to end your life.
@itstherileyquinn
9 days ago
She didn't actually clean the crime scene. You can look through the public court records. I love MissMangoButt but she left out a LOT of details.
Kathy was not directly involved in ANY of these crimes-only circumstantially. This is proven in public court records.
Her boyfriend gave her evidence he cleaned to store after he committed the murder-she had no idea these random items he was giving her had anything to do with a crime scene. THIS is the 'hiding blood evidence'. There is no evidence of her ever at, or entering, either of the crime scenes. No DNA, no CCTV, nothing. Meanwhile, both of the murderers were seen at each of the crime scenes.
Jaden worked as a contractor at my old job. I saw him all the time and made his lunch every time he came in. It's wild, he was always really nice and seemed shy.
Stephanie I knew that Cathy will be banned forever and she did it now she's sentenced to 33,000 years circa 1208 never to return!
This feels surreal like I don't know how to explain this but feels like a plot of a movie. My prayers for the victims who lost their lives.
I used to LOVE Kathy's content and had even dm'ed w her about random stuff so it was INSANE when this all went down!!! She deserves to rot in prison for this crime and same for the men!!
What she did is called creating a "paper trail." She set herself up with the expectation of interrogation. However, the incessant checking with him for reassureance seems like she panicked. It seems like she's being ocd about the details out of fear...perhaps she was roped in on purpose to put pressure on her to help. Who knows what pressure, panic, etc, she must have felt... idn. 23 years old means little, people can be quite nieve regardless of age... but the paper trail looks incredibly premeditated.
Your an amazing story teller Stephanie . Im hooked .Thankyou for your work. Sadly, you'll never run out of these crimes to cover.
imagine talking up your boyfriend like he's the best thing since sliced bread for the entire world to see only to find out he's a murderer......... can i get a yike
It’s sad that she was put in the spotlight due to the fact that she was a popular influencer, but that’s the repercussion when you present yourself/life to the world. Worst, he didn’t hesitate to run off and leave her on her own to deal with the mess. I believe she had something to do with the murders, just not sure to what extent. Sending prayers and condolences for the victims and their families. I hope they receive justice.
Idk if I missed it here, but I’m from Houston, and the story I know is that they planned to rob James bc they found out somehow that he had all that money at his house. they couldn’t find the money after all. But I guess they would’ve gotten rid of James regardless since it sounds like Polie owed him $40k. I believe she willingly had something to do with it too.
I love that your partner asks all the questions we’re thinking while watching these videos.
writing this before watching the vid… as a houstonian that used to follow her for a long time this shocked me sooo much when I found out bc I actually loved her motivational content. It’s so crazy how someone I used to look up to ruined their life like that and we never know what someone is doing behind social media content-
Holy Shit! I followed her and live in the same city as her! I used to admire her for being a self-made success story. Then one day she disappeared from my fyp, and I didn’t know why. This is crazy! I guess social media never shows the whole truth of who a person is.
I like quite a few others, including Bailey Sarian, Eleanor Neale, Danielle Kirsty, Annie Elise. They all care a lot about the victims, that is why they raise awareness to these tragic cases. Stephanie is my favourite too ❤
What about that girl who always says, "ya'll already know, uuhh...ya'll are my babies!" Lol
You’re gonna love Stephanie Harlowe then
i love bailey too! love her MMMM series 💕
Brooke Makenna and Bella Fiori are great too ♥ love everyone on this list!
kendall rae is also amazing! she has another documentary coming out this month i believe. her last one was amazing! shes always caring and closely involved with victims families 😊
The "took five days to get a warrant for the car" just sounds like them covering up their negligence.... I don't know anything about law or warrants but that's just the vibe
The two guys were caught in VN recently and it’s bizarre how they lied about their identity while staying there as well!
I wonder what took them so long.
I was a cop for twenty years. If the cops impound the car, they can search it without a warrant. It’s called a cursory search.
Illegal drug dealing is no joke. Humanity is loss in this world. One time I had three people killed point blank in the back of the head over a drug deal gone bad.
If the police impound a vehicle and take it to the police station-they HAVE to search it and all compartment. It’s part of police protocol in order to create an inventory of the vehicle and everything found within it. You do not need a warrant to inspect an impounded vehicle in order to do a basic inventory-because the inventory process is not a search for evidence. It’s just holding a record of the condition of the car at the time it was obtained and impounded by the police. Anything they happen to find through this administrative process is fair game. Perhaps they were administratively delayed/backlogged in doing the entrance inventory of the vehicle.
I had to get stuff to clean blood from my carpet because of a nose bleed and i felt like a criminal buying and cleaning it even though it was innocent 😭
Kathy has blood on her hands too. Hope she gets punished just as badly as her “amazing bf”
Just so you know, vietnamese people prefer calling the capital of Vietnam saigon instead of hcm city. Hcm is the name of the dictator, so it might trigger some vietnamese refugees. I know that it’s the government name, I’m just warning you so in case you meet any older Vietnamese immigrants. It kind of jumpscared me because my stepdad was in the car while I had the podcast on speaker and he was not happy when he heard the forbidden name
Iodine is a strong sanitizer. That is what it is used as in hospitals, for cleaning wounds, especially in surgery. Growing up my Mum kept a little bottle of it in our first aid box and would use it as a thinned out wound cleansing bath/solution on our bigger scrapes. We all loved climbing trees so the occasional knee gash was normal in our house 😂.
Iodine is also used for cleaning wounds. It is also used to clean the skin before surgery, blood draws, stitches and such. Most first aid kits have iodine in them. If you watch medical shows, it is that bright orangey yellowish liquid they spread all over the skin. Also if she was moving, she may have purchased all the cleaning supplies to give the new place a good cleaning or to replace what she used to clean the new place and to clean the place she was leaving. If you don’t clean well before leaving, many places will not charge you for the cleaning.
Keep in mind I am just saying there could be nothing to her buying the supplies, I am not saying she is innocent. I have family who buy cleaning supplies in bulk.
Literally how have i not heard of this happening 😳 Stephanie is like the world wide news for me at this point
kathy and her siblings quickly wiped everything from their socials and/or went private after this became public and HPD released information so it was hard for ppl to call her out for her bullshit
Stephanie, you simply and undeniably are the best youtuber! Im so happy to hear that you have a team to help you research. And honestly, your international cases really set you apart from other true crime podcasters...well that and Mr. Mangobutt asking all of our intrusive thoughts and comments! You are an original star...keep shining and i love your other channels too. Your wedding vows...absolutely beautiful ❤❤❤
OMGGG thank you for covering this. I'm so happy that they were caught even though they tried to flee to Vietnam
I don’t feel bad for her at all. Preaching to people about how independence is a sign of trauma among women? And then helping a murderer? Pathetic. Hope she gets locked up for a long time if she actually is guilty
Idk she is definitely giving me “trap Queen” vibes like she’d do anything for her man fr and I feel like she really values the lifestyle they created together, it doesn’t seem like she did any of this against her will in my opinion. I can’t wait to see what all comes out in the trial tho
She definitely did. A lot of people know her in Texas. She loves her boujee lifestyle and would do anything for it. Lowkey an evil person and was a completely different person online.
Love your work! Would like to make a request. Please do a podcast on the"Goon Squad". A group of racist cops in Mississippi who have been in the news of late. You'll see why. Extremely disturbing story. Their sheriff was just in the news for an entirely different matter. UNBELIEVABLE!!!
My ma and I clean a few Airbnbs together and I always have your videos on. Your hubby’s commentary always cracks my ma up without fail 😂❤
Thank you stephen, jane, stephanie, and mr mango butt for all the time and effort you put into this content! I hope you guys are taking small breaks, drinking water, and enjoying life. (Especially you stephen, editing/staring into a screen for long can strain your eyes) stay safe all of you ⭐️
Wait why did I never put two and two together that her team is Stephen and Jane 😭 I’ve only been around since about June, but I’ve seen the wedding videos with them and never put two and two together despite her saying they work with her lmfao
@@Spijen
Same
@@missmissy_90 ^
Who are stephen and jane?
@XxCuutesityxX the editors of her socials
This is such a crazy case, love the way you tell the stories! I personally think she also needs to be held accountable for cleaning the crime scene. She didn't have any problem at all bragging about her new laptop while knowing he murdered someone. Hope the two guys get life sentences.
Is texas a death penalty state?
I don't know anything about TikTok, but if they have timers to post videos automatically when a creator wants them to go out like TH-cam does, I could easily imagine she had uploaded that video and set a timer and it went out before she had time to think about taking down videos. Otherwise, yeah, she seems pretty heartless to post something like that next day.
She didn't actually clean the crime scene. You can look through the public court records. I love MissMangoButt but she left out a LOT of details.
Kathy was not directly involved in ANY of these crimes-only circumstantially. This is proven in public court records.
Her boyfriend gave her evidence he cleaned to store after he committed the murder-she had no idea these random items he was giving her had anything to do with a crime scene. THIS is the 'hiding blood evidence'. There is no evidence of her ever at, or entering, either of the crime scenes. No DNA, no CCTV, nothing. Meanwhile, both of the murderers were seen at each of the crime scenes.
What did the public records say about the videocalls and messages during the crime or the list on HER notes app? I’m genuinely curious because that does indicate indirect involvement vs circumstantial.
"Thank you for cleaning up the crime scene gift" ? 💀😬 That's extremely dark
As a former sheriffs officer worker, I know that when a vehicle is impounded, even as evidence a list is provided to the records department with everything found in the vehicle and sometimes there is a delay with the paperwork but the officer is supposed to inventory everything in that car immediately. So in my professional opinion, there is no way they did not know a body was in that trunk especially given the proper procedures when intaking a vehicle. In a high crime area like one where I worked, cars are not impounded very often for evidence purposes and there is usually no delay.
See ? Idealization of people relationship online is not something people should keep doing.
Thank you for covering such a wide range of topics from different parts of the world - I wouldn’t have ever known any of this before
My notes app is: pet supplies shopping list (I have a lot of pets), books that I have read in 2024, game preorders, manga I want to read and anime I want to watch.. very insightful LOL
I don't have much to add but I was in Kathy's highschool and seeing this is shocking as this person was extremely popular back then. However, if theres a important lesson that can be learned here is that to never judge a person base on what they portray themselves on the outside weather its in work, online, etc. A person will never truly know someone and will never know what they can do until that person suddenly does the unexpected weather its good or bad.
Based off other responses here that knew her before she got famous, it sounds like that's exactly the case here.
I’m from Pennsylvania, there’s an active run away convict on the loose that killed his girlfriend in front of their two kids and escaped Brazil because he was wanted for murder ! You should talk about that !
danilo cavalcante for anyone wondering. He was caught I think? I’m not familiar with the case but google says he was. Sorry for any misinformation
@@Spijen oh ! He actually was just now caught a few hours ago I believe. He was going up to peoples door cams and making weird faces lol.
The police not popping open the car was wild to me. Like imagine being at the impound and you start to smell something funky 😰.