People online were saying that he deserved it cause as a black man he shouldn’t date white women and because he dated her instead of a black woman that’s what he got
Who the hell does that swings knives? 😂 Wow glad she’s locked up maybe should should have stopped slut around and going to bars and instead worked on her mental health. Pathetic
Crazy how just by christian "charging" at her, the staff calls the police. But when she was slapping and yelling at him in public, nobody cared enough to call the police
It's because he's a guy, and most times they call on her behalf if he's the one being the aggressor. It's a double standard for men tbh, and sometimes women too. but for him to just end up dead out of nowhere, and her being the only one, all fingers of question point to her.
@@proverbs31university Right like you don't. One woman abuser doesn't suddenly cancel out all of the cases where men were the aggressor, talked about on this channel.
Never ever any excuse for you to call your partner of another race a slur! It's a violation and shows you don't love them, she also had a fetish for blk men vs loving them as an individual
Right?! It’s so disgusting. My boyfriend is a different race. And the idea of ANYBODY using a slur against him enrages me. This young man deserved so much better.
I appreciate you bringing up what Christian said about Black Women. As a Black woman, reading them was very discouraging (a preference is fine but bashing others in the process isn't). But how people think some mean tweets is equivalent to deserving to be in an abusive relationship where you're repeatedly emotionally manipulated, attacked, stabbed, and KILLED is beyond me. Seek therapy.
Personally I think this came into play when his family was asking the black community to “help”. No one wants to help parents who raised a young man to be that nasty towards women in his own community. Get the community he loved so dearly to help.
Listening to her speak, I couldn't help but scroll through the comments to see if she would address this very point. And she did! While it's true that nothing justifies his brutal death, maybe if he had approached things with a different mindset, he might still be alive today. It's a tough pill to swallow, but personal responsibility and mindset do play a role in shaping our outcomes. I hope he's at peace now. 🙏🏾
@@sjames5777 EXACTLY however, I don't think his parents raised him to be like that. Culture probably had a hand or two with his mode of thinking. Regardless, the problem is he wasn't the only one. So many black women bust their ass trying to get Stephan Clark his justice only to find out later he post many comments along the line of, and I quote "dark bitches bring dark nights" who the hell continues to fight for someone who thinks of them like that? Not me that's for damn sure!
Except the violent acts my mother has very similar situation with her new boyfriend. He can make himself look very friendly for everyone around him but when he is home he is literally mentally abusing her to the point where she also started drinking alcohol to "escape". So I could see her being the ultimate victim even after seeing this video.
She claims that she threw the knife from 10 feet away..? Is she a ninja? This woman is just something else. I hope Christian’s family is doing well after all of this.
@@glfxfa5452 it's a lot more to do with the build up to m*rder than most people understand... And she was on the phone to her mother in TX the entire time also. This brings a whole new level to the term "facilitator" and "enabler".
The fact that she called her mom before calling the police after stabbing Christian in order to come up with a cover story tells me everything i need to know about who the guilty party is.
While this chick is definitely guilty, I think most any time someone says something like: "[blank] is all I need to hear, they're guilty" shows a pretty big lack of understanding of people. Innocent people can do all sorts of shit that make them look insanely guilty, and guilty people can appear innocent, it's just reckless to assume guilt or innocence because of an action like calling her mom, or body language, or most any other singular reason.
Literally me fam. Clicked a video on a whim (don't even know why it was recommended to me. I don't follow anything even related to true crime here) but was hooked instantly. I love her delivery and cadence.
This comment resonated with me so much because I’ve been talking about this for so long on IG and Threads this is no longer “Women Support Women” it’s women enabling shitty behavior from other women and it’s turning into toxic feminism
No feminist is defending free pass for women to commit crimes. In fact, speaking to promote violence is a crime in itself and it is not covered by freedom of speech. Female killers exist all throughout history (in numbers way below men) and just like anyone that is caught they will try to talk their way out of it by using the best arguments available. Trying to twist the narrative to make herself/himself the victim to justify the crime is a strategy as old as time and definitely not feminism invention. Example, from single individuals to a whole political power system, Christianity has been used to justify their killings but that doesn’t mean this is what Christian faith is about. Feminism aims to stop specific gender violence towards women and not to give the group the right to kill. This perception is just a reflection of the systematic discrimination the feminists movements have been receiving online and in churches. And one of the ways to do it is by associating feminism with acts of violence that are unrelated to it and by discrediting the victories it conquered for women. This woman didn’t kill her partner because feminism built a society where the women is entitled to the men’s body and life. She killed him because she is a violent person and feminism didn’t pass a single law that obstructs the justice system from doing his murder justice and condemning her from her crimes.
@@basildasil it's true tho. All men are violent and disgusting monsters. They will take advantage of you I given the chance. The date proved it. All men are evil.
As a black wxman, I really appreciate how you spoke about and talked about the racism points with such importance and depth!! Thank you, stay safe everyone!
It almost brought a tear to my eye, she really didn't have to have that much consideration that it's so much deeper than any outsider could try to understand looking in, especially being a product of mixed love, I have such a hard time with that topic as well.
It's hard to understand why people stay in toxic relationships until you're in one. The man who abused me was the most loving person. I didnt see that he was slowly taking control of every aspect of my life. At the end i was so isolated that i had no one to call when he split open my skull. I passed out and woke up covered in blood. He carried me to the bath and washed it all off. I was so confused and concussed. Its horrifying how quick things can escalate after they take away your support 😭😭😭😭
I used to say the bruises go away....(scars not so much). The isolation is just as painful and abuse and the embarrassment and shame you feel keeps you from reaching out as well. I'm glad we both finally got away from that existence. Xx
So very true. Was with a man for over two years and didn't know what type of relationship I was in till very recently! Always put me down in a round about way. Any compliment he gave me came with a put down. Then everything that he claimed he liked about me needed to be changed right down to hair color and the clothing I wore. Said I was intelligent at first then slowly was treated like I didn't have a brain. I went from a confident woman to someone who started doubting myself. All this was so very subtle until recently. He crossed the line when he started to attack my family members and I had enough. When I said goodbye he asked what happened we had such a beautiful relationship! When I told him he crossed the line and how he had the nerve to say I knew you didn't love me and were using me. Ha don't know where he came up with that. Since I left him I am getting my self respect back building my confidence up slowly and will be more aware of people. It is amazing what we do to each other or maybe I should say what we let others do to us in the name of love!
Her parents were arrested without bond yesterday for being in possession of Christian Obumseli’s laptop. Courtney’s family even received tips of what the password could be from Courtney’s attorneys. I hope Courtney get a lengthy prison sentence.
So a family of enablers then? Her behavior is like that of an overgrown spoiled child who can’t handle the “real world” aka that not everyone will agree with you and that not everything goes your way. Other people have breakups and don’t go screaming in the street having a breakdown, let alone attacking their partner on a regular basis, as that bystander said “that’s not normal.”
Yea, he seemed very simpish. Who would whine she wasn't waking up happy after getting stabbed in the leg scenario? Was he attracted to the lifestyle or the ass? I mean honestly, he was bumming off her so he endured her insanity. He fell head over heels n simping to his fam right away. Guys stop putting pussy on a pedestal. Happens too often. Get to know the person passed the exterior
I was looking for this comment. They bonded out and their lawyer is saying these new charges are "troubling". That entire family doesn't know what accountability means.
Not only that, but the medics and the fucking police. I don't experience racism all that much in my country, or atleast i don't see it as much, so in my head it's like it doesn't exist. But god, the thinfs that black men has to go through wtf.
Just started the video, and decided to look Courtney up on Google to see if there were any advancements in the case since this video…only to see her parents were arrested for evidence tampering TWO DAYS AGO. Wild.
There another video were he want to walk away from her & he is saying am leaving to calm down & she said no no I need to talk to you . When your partner want’s space to bring the heat down & they don’t let them
They were tampering with evidence... Why if their daughter is a victim what are they trying to hide. Defendants think they are smart and no one will find evidence against them but their actions speak louder than any evidence.
Thank you for this post. December 2023 something was supposed to happen trial wise but I was never able to find anything. I chalked it up to they rescheduled or she stepped up to end all of this and said she was guilty. Now reading your comment I find I'm stupid to actually think it was the latter.
@@theendofanerror4173don't be so hard on yourself. You're ok. It'll just take a bit longer before the trial can start now because they need time to look through the computer's data.
my heart dropped when you explained the way christian’s mother found out about his death. losing a son is hard enough, but imagine if one moment you think your son is alive and well and the next moment you get a call about DONATING his dead body. i would be devastated!
Can you imagine being the person that called her? It would be so awkward but also must have felt so heartbroken and guilty for it. I'd have started crying on the phone.
This is just such a bad situation. I hope the family has made peace with it and I hope Courtney never leaves prison. Rip Christian. You seemed like a genuinely sweet guy.
Yup. Look at what Amber Heard did. If it weren't for the proof and the recordings --- people wouldn't even find out that Johnny Depp didn't abuse her. It was the other way around.
No matter what mistake a partner might’ve done or what they might’ve fucked up, there is absolutely no reason to treat them like this. You can calmly express your emotions towards what they did
the entire time i felt like she was calling him the n slur, then you comfirmed it. shes a fetishizer and our community lets these girls get away with saying slightly off stuff and get confused when they look down on us. “i only date rich black men” is not something someone who’s normal and level headed would say.i wouldnt be suprised if she hurt him because she barely sees him as human. idc.n then the nerve to pull the “ i dont feel safe :(“ card in public, girl bye.
In one of those recordings she said "those dogs are more important than you". She didn't see him as even a loveable pet , he was beneath a mere dog, sheesh
and the fact that she would spit on him all the time, and im sure she knew that people were more likely to believe a white woman than a black man I cases of abuse
Preach. I told my boyfriend when we first started dating im not a fetish so don't dare treat me like one cause I've seen some people in your community do it. He acknowledged my concerns cause he too had seen it. This girl was allowed to abuse this man so freely its wild. Rip
i gasped so loud when i head that part! the first clip were she clearly fetishizes black men already gave me the ick but omg the audacity of this “woman”…. so disgusting. christian really didn’t deserve any of that. i pray he gets justice. 🕊️🖤
As a White Woman, seeing people online defending her after everything she had said to him is absolutely disgusting. Even if they are both abusers, that never gave her the right to stab him and cause him death, the fact it took her 10 minutes to call for help is really clear that she didn't want anyone to know what she had done. And also the fact that it took them so long to arrest her, really shows that men being abused aren't taken more seriously than women. People defending her and bashing on Christian about "shoving her" is really concerning for the future, what if there are more victims of abuse and when the victim pushes the abuser back it gets turned on them because they PUSHED them, I honestly find it really disgusting how other white people are on her side and calling him aggressive from a push, shows the racism tbh. No one ever called her aggressive from the LITERAL Camera footage of HER abusing HIM, even though she was literally abusing him, they still are pointing out that he was smiling and that egged her on, I cannot believe this reaction tbh, to it's truly just disgusting and sad for the men that have to go through with any kind of abuse from their partner and not being taken seriously by anyone.
Unfortunately this is something that happens already, both ways. Women have injured themselves and blamed it on their partner, or women that killed their abusive husbands in self defense going to prison for life for murder. Its horrible.
@@C-SD Yeah, people on social media can sometimes be really insensitive. And it goes both ways too. People have a tendency to blame the victim no matter the gender. There was a viral video of Chinese men beating up four women who were friends. Like really beating up. Stephanie had done a video on that. And there were a lot of comments blaming the friends who were the victims.
You can't both be abusers, it's just not how it works, it's one or the other person. IMO The person being abused can fight back and it looks like they are abusing, but they are not, they are fighting for their safety and sanity. How anyone can defend this pos woman is beyond me.
Dude when she started saying that he made the mistake of not agreeing with her when she was having an argument with somebody else I had flashbacks and then the following argument that happened literally it's like I was back in my 8-year long travesty of a relationship
Honestly how dare anyone try to justify Courtney’s abusive behavior and her racism?! That is disgusting beyond belief. In interracial relationships, there is absolutely NO excuse to use racial slurs on your partner EVER!!!
She was slumming, and she didn't really want or love him it was just some gutter s*x jungle fetish nonsense... His lack of respect for himself made ever escalating levels of disrespect from her inevitable. 😑🤦🏿♂️
Christian was the victim. the recording reminded me of exactly how some of my worst relationships were. The apologizing bc you just want them to stop and you’re embarrassed bc they won’t and scared and regret doing whatever made them mad. you can’t fake that.
YES YES YES literally same tbh. "I should've never asked you to apologize and made you feel bad." That is someone who has had their emotions devalued to the point where they don't feel like they're allowed to be hurt or angry because it's been treated like that is completely unreasonable.
I’m the audio sounds so scary. I feel so bad I’m sure he was terrified of her but who could he confide in? Who would believe that this pretty little white girl is abusing him. My heart breaks because I think he knew his life was in danger which made him start secretly recording.
@@celeste7469 I thought the same. Once you feel the need to record, that's a huge red flag. I did that once in a really toxic relationship. I just wish he took off back to TX when she kicked him out. I had to do that once. I'd rather look like a b*tch running for my life than staying and having it end really bad. Nice name btw.
@@celeste3100 is it only me but once you've actually been in scenarios like this, watching things like this give you a weird stomach or reaction feeling? I find myself skipping certain parts especially the letters. it is so weird most notice how many " flag" there after they've left the relationship. The need for him to apologise for asking he to apologise immediately let me know she's guilty. I hope his name doesn't get left in vain and they do charge her. I hope all of you who have been through anything remotely similar are in a better place now. Peace & love💚
I got tired listening to Courtney screaming. OMG. It's obvious there's a gender and racial bias here. Since she's a white woman who killed a black man. The idea seems unlikely for the police to accept other that "self defense". SMH. We wouldn't know if he could have been saved if EMS are called immediately or not and how fatal the wound was. The authority is not putting much effort to this crime.
Right! I have such respect for him.. I really don't know if I would have been able to keep from punching her directly in the head the first time she started screaming at me like a f*cking lunatic because we're having a disagreement? This is what people who don't learn how to appropriately regulate their emotions as toddlers and fry their brains on drugs turn out to be. So damn sad.
I hope she goes to jail for at least man slander. You keep letting monsters walk around more people become monsters and than you start seeing as we already starting to see people take things into their own hands, and say f## the justice system I get my own justice. He should have left when she stab him. That a clear sign she willing to kill. But he didn’t want to let her go because it was the lifestyle and plus must have believed he could change her. But even if someone abused you but it very, very clear he wasn’t because if he was she would have been like Tina Turner jumping if she thought she even said the wrong word. I seen real women abuse by a dangerous man and they knew to listen to him. There was a true crime case where a woman plan her escape from her crazy ex. The court system work against her and she had to pay him but she keep moving around and keep her son safe. She was right about that but because he couldn’t get a hold of her he killed six of the people that work on her case. She wasn’t really being abused and I bet him pushing back was self defense, or they both was hitting on each other but it clear she was the aggressor because it seem he was getting afraid of her. I got someone guy that was getting beat up by his lover to get out, that not normal and I know your mom says not to hit on a girl but get out before you end up dead. I witnessed this twice and thankfully both got out of their abusive relationship. This is pure murder and it clear she didn’t love him because she not taking responsibility of her actions. That a purely evil person and people defending her I bet wouldn’t want their child dating her, or even date her for long because this will repeat itself. Like the woman that killed her first husband and got away with it just to turn around and kill again, and only got catch because she wasn’t fast enough in killing her daughter in the hospital. She very dangerous to society and she clearly needs help. Besides she only beating up on him because she knows she can get away with it and that deep down inside she hates herself and how she don’t have control so she kicks the puppy or the next person she think she can. She hiding her pain and the drugs not taking the sadness away, the shopping sprees and the frame isn’t bringing her happiness but a short live quick fix. I hope she goes to jail but even if not she going to go down that dark hole all by herself with no help and it’s going to get deeper. Karma is knocking at her door.
How can anyone think he was abusive? Every instance is him just pouring his heart out and apologizing for accidentally making a mistake. Everything sets her off and he sounds like he's always walking on eggshells. And she calls him racial slurs.
Yep, and he STILL doesn't leave! I strongly get the sense that it seems he had a strange emotional and physical dependence upon her. A weird codependency.
Listening to the audio was hard. She was straight up scary. They were not married they had no kids together why the heck didn’t he leave!? I’m not victim blaming I’m not understanding. No one deserves to be treated that way.
She's so incredibly abusive, it's even scarier to realise this happens alot behind closed doors to women and men not daring to speak up in fear of what she did. Just Google her name.. the picture of her in handcuffs.. looking all bloody. She definitely has mental health issues beyond reason. People should've stepped in.
The majority of men who are abused by a partner do not speak up. Why would you call 911 to tell them your wife or lover is beating you or sexually harrassing you when you'll just get laughed at? Men being raped or sexually assualted or harrassed in general is never taken seriously unless it's being done to them by another man. If a woman is the perpetrator, then there's not going to be much done. It's extreamly sad.
@@octogonSmuggler exactly. Which is why people outside of the relationship should've stepped up or helped him. He didn't deserve this and I know how hard it is to get out.
@@octogonSmuggler Laughed at? In most states the police HAVE to arrest someone at the site of a DV call, and they'll take away the man regardless of evidence present. It's example of a well-intentioned thing going very, very wrong.
I feel like what makes me sick to my stomach is the fact. Her abusive long him would’ve never went this public if he wasn’t dead. He had all those recording and evidence. But I know he was still too afraid to speak up. Throughout this whole video that’s all I could think of. How he probably in those few moments of bleeding. He probably wish he would’ve spoken out sooner. And for that I just hope anyone that’s in an abusive relationship. Mental or physical. Just look at this story and understand that time doesn’t change a person. Just makes them worse. It’s best to find a way out of the relationship now then wait later on. Reach out for help.
@@layladavis02 Yup, always remember that it's never worth being with someone that does not respect you. Period. It doesn't matter how much they say they love you.
She sounds like a raging cokehead. I don't think he was as interested in partying that same way, as evidenced by his letters. Coke is a terrible ego drug. I worked in nightlife for many years and have witnessed some truly unhinged rage and brain rot and soul rot coming from regular cocaine users. If you have any propensity to be aggressive with others, it can amplify it 1000%. I feel so bad for Christian's family. He didn't deserve that.
It is weird knowing that someone was born in your hometown and turned into someone like this and never hearing about it until now. She was not the victim Christian was.
Omg. This woman is literally horrible. She was abusing him and brainwashed him into thinking he was the cause of his own abuse. She’s a monster. That poor man. I want to cry I feel so sad for him.
Thats what my Ex did to me " you just piss me off so much that i balckout and hit you, you know how bad it makes me feel?" she could say after she beat the fuck out of me for not cleaning well enough
@@gravy069 aye... and what was worse is that i cleaned, cooked, preped the kids for kinder/school and went and left them there, i went to the store to get all grociers, i picked up the kids, cooked food, prepped them for bed, and then went to work night shifts, did this for atleast a year and she still said i did not help anything at home....
‘Christian has the tendency of documenting the abuse from her side’ but Christian is the only one who has been to the hospital multiple times? Christian is not the one who went to jail for domestic abuse?
That was my thought too. How many times did she have to go to the hospital for being stabbed or physically abused? And if there's complaints he's only recording his side, she had every right to start recording too from 'her side' to ensure all angles were documented. I'm not saying Christian is necessarily entirely innocent- i absolutely do klnow of abusers who are very good at acting 'rational' and apologetic etc when they're being watched- but from what's been revealed of all this so far, the guy certainly sounds like he was heavily abused by her. It doesn't help that, in a lot of these recordings and body cams, she sounds really intoxicated and/or high which adds a whole extra level. Any sort of aggression + substance abuse is a recipe for disaster.
i've been in a relationship with a girl like that and she was also white. during a fight she would literally spit out racial slur just like courtney, and would quickly play victim when you're aguing back. but when you stay silent and give in she'd make it worse, intimidate and gaslight you more. the cycle repeats.
Her whole behaviour before and after the murder seems like, she was raised by her parents to be super entitled. The fact that she was a repeat offender with various unlawful activities suggest that her parents never reprimanded her for her actions. She became like this because she was very sure, that she will can never face any consequences of her actions. An example of extremely bad parenting. I hope she given a life sentence for her crime without any possibility of parole. She is danger to the society.
I was dog walking at that building that day. A tall black guy with huge muscles asked me:” Can I go in the elevator with you? I am scared to be here alone,” He told me the story and that she was out and in the building. The story is chilling, and that huge guy looked so scared, too. I got a better job offer shortly after, so I never returned. But it is weird to see this story on TH-cam now 🥶
I have borderline personality disorder and am also a mental health care worker in nyc and come to conclusion that people that experiences childhood sexual trauma will behave like this in adulthood, especially when they do drugs too and haven’t had pivotal learning experiences on how to manage their emotional disregulation. I used to be like this in my early twenties but years of therapy helped me no longer physically harm my partners. But during those days I felt like I was the one abused, hurt, and isolated and had to harm the person that made me feel so beaten. Only through support did I learn that what I feel does not make it the reality. I appreciate you a lot Stephanie for bringing light to these situations.
I love that how ur now in the mental health field! Full circle moment yknow. I've been diagnosed with CPTSD bc of prolonged SA and child abuse throughout my childhood and now I want to work at a daycare bc I now know I have the tools to help nurture these kids of tomorrow!
Sigh, I had BPD too and as soon as I realised I threw a plushie to my boyfriend when I was upset and that means im toxic, I signed myself up to therapy, saying Im toxic and want to change that. I hate seeing her hit him as if feeling invalidated justifies physically harming someone like that... Not to mention the racist slurs! When she was questioned by police after she was concerned about how terrible her day was which leads me to believe narcissism is in play too
This is a reasonable and wise thing to say. The story is so emotional. It is hard to be reasonable and wise. It is still true "Hurt people hurt people."
This is so sad; many women get away with abusing their partners because of the social stigma that men are the abusers and women are the victims. Thank you, Stephanie, for talking about this case.
its not a stigma, its just facts. women are more abused than men AND men are the biggest perpetrators. BUT male victims are just as valid and deserve justice.
I do think that race, wealth and pretty privilege have something to do with the fact that she wasn't detained that same day. I just feel so bad for Christian's family. And his poor mom, the way she found out about his death was unacceptable,
It's just how America is... The way that it has always been. I'm not surprised. I live in the UK and it would be roughly the same here. His longing to be in an unequal relationship and a violently toxic one all at his own expense had cumulative consequences in the end and for me that is the teachable takeaway here.
I think all those things are exactly why this all happened and why she was or became the horrible person that she did ... I don't know any dudes or people who would've held it together and not hit her back when being pounded on like that. He didn't even say mean things or call her names when she was!
Nah. She’s a pure murderer. I saw another TH-cam channel that basically showed her many run ins with the cops. And from the bodycam footage to the interrogation footage of her run ins she’s definitely got a track record of abusing the crap outta that man and he just kept taking her back to his demise.
honestly not respecting men comes with that type of work, i mean would you really respect a man if you dont even respect yourself enough? or if he doesnt respect himself enough to demand a woman to be private for him only, besides that the desguisting man on these websites also distort a womans view on man. ive heard many adult actress talk about that, that they would never be able to see a man as not disguisting or creepy or weak
This is why the VICTIM is too exhausted to leave...The minute they start to recover from the trauma, it starts up all over again!!! AND, if you finally do have the strength to finally walk out the door, they will breadcrumb you back in with their love bombing of false hopes and promises. It's an insidious form of brainwashinmg.
I genuinely feel so bad for Christian, the fact she called him the n-word slur is SHOCKING to me like omg the disrespect toward her OWN partner. And the poor man having nowhere to sleep like my heart is absolutely broken for him.
As someone with a white mom and black dad, it's unfortunately very common for them to go that low in an argument. Obviously not all interracial relationships, but the fetish-y ones.
@@joannaquan177so her repeatedly stabbing him, lying saying she abused him, her being the abuser and aggressor, her not having remorse for what she done and going back to doing OF, none of that is more shocking than saying the n word.
I've noticed a commonality or correlation between fetishism and abuse. Most stories that I've heard of abuse involving a fetish have this same structure. A person with the fetish verbally, physically, and emotionally abusing the person with said idolized features. It's almost like from the start the victim was never a person, their only value were their features.
yes. the person is strictly an object and not a real person. I went through this with my last ex, i didnt realize how much i was abused until after contact with him stopped. i started standing up for myself and he started gaslighting me so hard. i called him out on the gaslighting and he blocked me because I wasn't under his control anymore.
It is good that on occasion I will come across individuals that understand how this relationship dynamic operates, but when will our people start getting it collectively as a group?
They literally just need Christian’s hospital records of the stab wounds the face slash and the texts of her admitting that she did do those things… she has a history OF STABBING!!!
that audio recording brings so much anxiety it hurts my chest. That's exactly how my mom acted & screamed during my teenage years, down to the way she responded throughout & even the part where she threatened to un*live herself. all bcs I disagreed to her opinion during a supposedly friendly discussion on how to solve a trivial problem.
I hope you're okay now... I'm so sorry for what you went through. I'm so glad you're here with us today and I hope you no longer have to deal with your mother's abuse anymore
Its disgusting how we, as a society, still try and minimize domestic abuse against men. If the genders in this case were reversed, no one would dare to dispute or attempt to justify the abuse.
I think the Vegas trip is where she learned that she needed to make accusations against him if she was going to get away with being violent. She started “exposing “ a pattern of abuse to lay the foundation of her alleged innocence.
Yep, I agree it seems consistent with the timeline and it is when she first started to get arrested and so because she intended to continue being violent towards him she needed to offset this by creating her own abuse narrative... I saw her on the body cam footage and she seems so taken aback that she was even being arrested in LV, Now Fast forward to the building lobby footage back in Miami and she says something that's crucial on MPD body cam asking: "How can she file a court restraining order against Obumseli BEFORE him because she wanted to get there FIRST". all part of building a victim narrative for herself. Not to say that I am a mind reader but I suspect that she at least partially planned this. Plus there is the audio recording by Obumseli recording where Clenney says that she "literally wanted to unalive Obumseli but said he didn't take her seriously." = Premeditation.
Someone who threatens to end their life is in an argument far more likely to end your life. This is not normal, please remove yourself from these situations entirely.
off topic but, it’s beyond freaky to know that courtney was watching christina randall’s channel and her intro goes “make sure to be kind to everybody, everywhere” courtney heard that then 30 or so minutes later killed a man, it’s CRAZY. it just shows how inhuman and cold she is as a person, how could you hear a story of another victim & then create another.
drugs alters your mind to a point that you cant think straight and healthy and often toxic situations involve drugs. its not an excuse (because its peoples choice to take them as well) but its deffenitly an explanation as to how and why these people can do such evil things
There is a movie that came out last year on literally the same topic…it’s called Sissy a horror/triller…the girl in the movie said almost the same thing at the end of all her videos and was an influencer…the weirdest, campiest shit I have ever watched but it was sooo good…
To think this crazy woman want to have children. As soon as she can’t completely control or they make she mad them she going to kill them and try to cover it up. You saw so quickly she didn’t care for her dogs and than got mad at him about the dog. Imagine that with a child she would be the mother from pure hell.
Thank you for your detailed report and objective assessment as well as stating the obvious things others try to negate in this horrible case. I really do appreciate your ability to do what you do at such a high level with respect and intrigue for telling these stories. You are one of one, and probably the best at this.
So much to unpack and digest. One important thing I want to mention is that even though he recorded conversations, arguments, etc., the level of self control required to stay calm that entire time would be incredibly difficult to maintain. I genuinely believe he did it for his own peace of mind or protection. Who knows, maybe he recorded it just for himself to clarify in his mind whether he was somehow gaslighting her or if she was the one gaslighting him. Overall, it sounds like it was an incredibly unhealthy relationship but I get the strong sense she was the abuser and he may have reacted in less than healthy ways at times.
@@hotsexyangel I understand your opinion, I was merely sharing mine and some potential insight into his actions. Your response simply sounds like a reaction and doesn't add anything to the conversation.
I love how you paint a picture of the criminals you cover. It helps me separate the person they are vs the things they have done. Sometimes it helps me get a better understanding of why they did what they did.
People even thinking that it was self defence is crazy. Just listen to those text messages. How many times he mentioned getting hurt so badly and still no threat. I hope she rots in jail her whole life.
He was the graduation class before me...... Same school ..same city... This is crazy .. this video... Is literally way more informative than the news put out... This really hit hard... I feel and pray for his family .. 💔
She should be in jail for the rest of her life! And the way she treated her boyfriend --- the accusations, abuse, hitting, etc. There's a special place in hell for people like her. I hope she doesn't get away with this or there's another victim in the hear future. She's a psycho!
I feel like Courtney has anger issues, like with things that are not that serious to typical people, she escalates to unbelievable irrational anger and violence. It was also mentioned that she said she felt angry back in high school. She has been taking substances which could have exacerbated her anger issues. I wonder how aware of the toxicity of their relationship their families were since both of them were close. I think their families should have helped advise both of them to stop the relationship.
@@eddy-currents every crime story video about male serial killer explains how he was abused in childhood etc. and what sort of mental health issues he had. Your take is bs.
@@eddy-currents nah actully ive watch alot of true crime. They do put in the backstory and the anger issues and the killers, rather their male or female. Tbh it is a valid question to wonder if the families knew, if hers knew how abusive she was to him, if his family knew how much danger he was in. If the roles were reversed they would be talking about it. Especially since their anger issues can be even used in court to prove how abusive the killer was in the relationship. Since if unmanaged, they can become abusers . watch more true crime on male killers it's kinda the same way , they explain even the sexual abuse the killers go through. I'm not saying that there's a difference of how male and female abusers are treated, after all men are considered to be more angry while women are just "emotional" in everyway and weaker . So people often make it seem like only men can abuse but that's not the case . I'm just saying that ur kinda wrong in this situation.
Wow how is it that this is the first time I’m hearing about this case? I really must’ve really been living under a rock. Thank you Stephanie for covering this case!
I've heard of a case where an OF model killed her boyfriend in "self defense" but I just started this video so idk if it's the same case yet or not. Edit: same case. But Stephanie is covering it so I know I'm going get way more info on it.
@@error404webpagenotfound my husband had told me about one and I believe it’s a different one than this one but I really have to look into it to remember
I live with someone like Courtney, but she’s abusive even to our parents. It’s scary, one time I accidentally brushef by her in the kitchen and she (21) went and tattled to my foster dad. He then came and told me (16) “you’re lucky you got away with that, usually you wouldn’t. I’m just trying to keep the peace she could have snapped and it would have been all bad” it’s very disturbing how even her parents are scared of her.
hey, i know its easier said than done and you may have tried all of these things but please try to do something about this, get some distance from her or call the police on her ( maybe your family can also back you up on it? ) because it sounds like a very emotionally draining and dangerous environment. i know its not that easy but i really hope you and your family get away from her and she gets the help that she needs.
please get out and cut her off people like her dangerous I work for the state on NJ in the court system and I watched this behavior too many times and she will be volatile to whom ever she meets but leave without tell her and get a restraining order right away
Its the fact that she called her boyfriend racial slurs, sent him to the hospital, hit him constantly and was insanly controling and people still think shes the victim is insane to me.
I didn't even know she called him racial slurs. His friends should've told him the truth. As a black woman, I can safely say it's not just his tweets that got him backlash in death it was previous situations involving black women dying and it being laughed at by black men. I do feel horrible for his family. Please, anyone in a relationship, regardless of gender don't ever ignore those red flags. Move away in silence if you must.
@@rachymn7883 Wasn't it xenophilia that got him? Xenophobia is fear of outsiders. Seems to me he valued outsiders more than people in his ethnic group. He shouldn't have been stabbed, no question.
@@marcmielke if one is racist towards there own people from another walk of life. They are a Xenophob. Idk. But this man was a dic. Edit- it's both. Since he hated mainly African American women. Still a dic
I’m glad I found this video. Because I’ve been thinking about getting a place to live with my ex from 7 years ago who was abusive. And this has been a stark reminder that it is not safe for me to do that. No one believed me when I said how abusive he was. I thought to myself I have to record our conversations to get people to believe me. I was choked multiple times, and got my finger broken. Everything was always my fault. He would snap at the most minor inconvenience. Please, anyone here, if you feel unsafe, even if no one else believes you, if you feel you have to record them for proof because they and everyone around you gaslights you, please please please get out. I can barely afford to live alone right now, and I have no friends to live with, because this person isolated me so much and everyone is too busy to accept a new friend. I’m not sure what I can do but I am now reminded I cannot go back to living with him. Stay safe.
I have been in a similar situation as you. As advice, one of my greatest mistake was believing it was to late to reach out to others, and that telling the truth was not possible among friends. It is worth a try, especially with what you are considering. You need to have vetter in life then that, so you never consider it again. Take care ❤
I absolutely love your videos, no one gives quite as much details and background story as you do. Thankyou for all the work you put into these videos. It is so sad that this happened to him though :(
Courtney having bruises after Christian had been kicked out and then seeming to the cops like she was intoxicated: bruising can be caused by drinking (especially excessive/prolonged drinking) It's also fishy to me that she yells at Christian like he never takes responsibility and is the problem. He apologizes to her and specifically explains which behaviors of his were wrong "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that. It's not okay." I've not heard her apologize to him once in the clips. She's literally throwing tantrums
and her insistence that Christian not speak to other women, and constantly having his location to the point of being furious when it's off, she's absolutely sus
As a black person/African this case pissed me off. I watched the interview where she says she only dates black guys. Her calling him the N word. Her beating him. Her mistreating him. He was basically a slave to him. Don't get me started with him saying he doesn't like black women. He really didn't like himself and the fact that he is black. His family failed him, he failed himself.
@@Leezy24 no it should not be… people keep bringing up those tweets as to blame him for his own passing… that is not right. You shouldn’t have to base your compassion for someone who wrongfully died on what he said as a college student. It was despicable yes but that’s the past and this is now
@@hafsamohamed3555 I’m African born and raised… and it’s honestly sad that the community of black people has become like this. You die and everyone Carries social media tweets on their head… like is this supposed to be normal behaviour or did I miss the memo?
HER VOICE HAS TESTOSTERONE SHOTS ALL OVER IT. Heard many other female body builders that end up with a voice like that because it's super common in the body building community for testosterone, steroids and other "upper" drugs such as crack cocaine to be not just be recommended but also distributed and sold all in the gym. HOWEVER the crack usage that was mentioned is an absolute recipe for disaster. The reason I believe she was taking a HEAVY amount of Testosterone is because if you're on a super high dose for extended period of time your voice will stay deep and manly for the rest of tou life and this is clear to see here... But that's the LEAST of her worries😮 as its a very well known that using testosterone can cause horrendous aggression, fits of uncontrollable anger and violence a very built man that could cause serious injury to someone...
Stephanie give me a less creepy vibe then other true crime TH-camrs I get a very scared feeling when other people tell the story’s but with her it’s different I can listen to it in the night alone in my room with the lights off
That's because they're not fictional stories that were made up to be scary. What you're noticing is the difference in her respect towards the victims and their families.
I really feel racism contributed to Christian's death. Like not just the nature of racism itself but the way she comes down on him in the videos of the abuse is like a plantation owner, like he is her property, he exists to worship her and how dare he even breath in the direction of another woman. Once again, Rotten Mango, you tackle the tough, complex, heartbreaking stories with eloquence, empathy and deep insight. Thank you for all of your hard work.
She's guilty AF. I hope she is charged accordingly. So Courtney claims he pinned her up against the wall and began choking her.... but every time we hear a recording or see a recording he is trying to defend himself without hurting her??????
And also, I have been choked, and under no circumstances would I have been able to scream "stop choking me I can't breathe" as he did it. If you can't breathe, you can't scream. And she claims he held her up against the wall and then let her go so she drops to the ground basically insinuating that he lifted her up from the floor by her throat, and yet she was able to scream (but not breathe??) That shit is definitely a lie.
I have heard about this case multiple times watching several other channels videos but when I saw you did this case too, I am still going to watch it because I know I will still learn new things because of your depth in your videos and you paint a picture setting the stage so well Add: I didn’t know Toby was his middle name
Seeing domestic abuse growing up, all I can say is she's very confident in how she speaks, yells, charges and attacks. That doesnt sit well with me with what I've witnessed and felt myself.
Her behavioral pattern reminds me so much of people with borderline personality disorder (BPD). Her childhood trauma and the cocaine use likely contributed to it. Cocaine abuse itself can change one’s personality towards many symptoms of BPD. She obviously needs mental help, but what happened to Christian and his family is truly heartbreaking. I’m also very disappointed at the people who jumped to conclusion solely based on race and gender in this case. Thank you Stephanie for covering this case.
i hate the correlation between bpd and abuse. theyre not related. not one statistic says people with bpd are abusive. she doesnt show any symptoms of bpd besides impulsivity and big emotions.
@@kadencelynn8723This. Armchair therapists in the comments of these videos love to say anyone that's volatile "must have bpd." I don't link her to enough symptoms to diagnose it and as someone with bpd never related to her at all in this. But people will always be disappointing and stupid, just ignore them. The above comment does nothing but stigmatize and demonize us :/ people should not diagnose someone with a mental disorder from a true crime video, especially if they are not a therapist, especially because they don't know her personally and haven't properly done any tests or observation.
@@kadencelynn8723 i understand you’re coming from a place of protecting bpd from becoming a cruel, negative and dehumanising stereotype. i get it, i am her and she is me. bpd does not make people *inherently* abusive, but perception impacts reaction. more specifically, perception, *filtered through the sense of an individual person’s ethics and moral compass* , leads to reaction. so what i’m tryna get at is that *bpd does not make you a bad person.* but a _bad_ person with bpd thoughts, behaviours and reactions can become lethally worse. add to that her particular bpd being aggravated by substance abuse, a clear constant unmedicated delulu manic episode (while insanely strong mind-altering chemicals are dictating her brain at this point), and being treated like a princess by her family who could do nothing wrong, no consequences? the bpd would just be the fuel to the fire. i can say this with conviction because,,, although leagues and leagues harmless compared to her menace, i had a manic breakdown last year for about 3-4 months. i don’t recognise her, that person cannot be me. my worst crime would be being convinced my ex was being abused by his mom, ask him to move in with my family, and not giving him his phone back in the middle of the night- running crazy on the street with it, because i genuinely believed he was in the most atrocious and dangerous situation ever with his mom and she’s manipulating him to come back with her, and if i give him his phone back he will spiral deeper into abuse. i somehow convinced myself that was what is best for him, that nobody else knew what they were talking about. and that’s what unmanaged manic bpd does. changes the entire truth or maximise tiny reactions into explosions that destroy everything in its path. for a decent human being, it’s “i’m so sorry i jumped to an unhealthy conclusion and spiralled into emotional dysregulation because i was upset”. for entitled, unhinged individuals like her, it’s “you think i am wrong? well i guess i have to defend myself by stabbing you with a knife because you deserve it for making me upset” i’m sorry it’s so long. i just wanted to illustrate very clearly why bpd is a neutral entity, that is either a butter knife or a machine gun depending on the person that has it. not inherently bad, but not harmless either.
This is my first time hearing about this case. It's so sad! How I wish he'd left her when he realized he wasn't safe. If he had enough awareness to start recording their interactions, he knew he was in danger. If anyone is in this position, leave. Just leave. It's not worth your life, no matter how much the other person tells you they love you. Be safe out there!
And it's a Nigerian family at that. Ik they will never let this go... If I was feeling this hatred towards that woman imagine the mother, the father, tsk tsk
THANK YOU for telling people to get an attorney and not let police make you feel bad about asking. The reason we have that right is because innocent people have gone to prison
Having dated a Nigerian, they’re intensely emotional but not always abusive. They take their traditional masculine role seriously so for her to say to him “you never protect me.” “You were supposed to protect me.” must have hurt somewhere DEEP. That read on him being gaslit into thinking he was the gaslighter was dead on. Black men are already conditioned to see themselves as overly aggressive in the public eye, and self conscious about having to be careful to avoid making that impression. it’s so sad and sickening to see how she exploited that fact to control him. However he said he wanted nothing to do with women like me so 🤷🏾♀️ that’s all the sympathy I can muster for the situation. She showed him who she was and no matter how ugly he couldn’t get enough. Christian loved Courtney to death, the end.
U are dead on 🎯. As for me I feel the same. It's easy for black people in these types of unequal relationships to feel as if non black people are hateful towards us out of some type of ignorance. Or that they gravitate towards us for relationships out of some kind of genuine affection. in reality predators know what makes their prey tick psychologically and they enjoy wielding power over them. Like puppet masters. Clenney fits the bill I am so glad that her late bf made the secret recordings because of the insight gained therein it's like being able to peer through a window and see/hear things that Clenney would never have admitted to otherwise had it not been recorded.
As someone who’s been in an abusive relationship. As soon as I heard he started recording arguments. I felt so deeply he was a victim. So many times Me and my ex would argue and I’d record it. Mostly because I was afraid if I had to go to the police I needed evidence. But also just a recording so I could listen back and see if I was insane. Of course even abusive ppl will record. But mostly once they get a recording that makes them look good they instantly show it to police, friends, family just to make the s/o being abused feel like they now have no way of speaking out. Because everyone already thinks they’re the abuser. And even when me and my ex would stop fighting. He would confront me for “hitting him”. When it was me trying to get him off. My best example is one time he randomly decided since I was watching tv instead of giving him attention. He was going to take my tv. I got upset and tried to move pass him to plug the tv back in. He then pushed me down and slammed my head on the floor, on top of me. And me trying to push him off. I must’ve lifted his shirt because he got a deep scratch from one of my nails. Instantly even though he was the one to pin me down. He was the one hurting me and shoving my head into the ground. He would go on and say how I hurt him and it was going to leave a scar. He’d show people and they’d look uncomfortable and I’d feel so defeated. Because even with all the videos and audio recordings I’d have. His one scar made me out to be this terrible person. So I never got help. He ended up cheating and honestly it was good for me because he then had to run off to care for his baby mama. I was so excited literally the same day packed all of his thing with care and was so nice just out of fear that upsetting him he’d try to stay. But even then because of that damn scratch I gave him. Whoever he told probably thinks I’m abusive. But because if cases like this where some girl says she was abuse when she clearly was an abuser. Makes people like me feel even more afraid to speak out. So I hope he gets the justice he deserves and his family finds peace once again
Also side note. You can see photos of here the day of his death. Yes she covered in blood so TW before looking. But her neck seems fine. How she describes it. She acts like he was strangling her next so hard she felt he was trying to pass her out or kill her. With that much force but no marks on her body. Yes red marks can go away after. But she would be showing something if he was being that aggressive.
@@smolson8471 thank you so much. I feel like day to day I have definitely moved on. Just sleeping at night I have nightmares that my real life was all a dream and I’m still with him. But once I wake up I’m just more grateful for the life I have now!
I did the same about my recordings. I would record them because I wanted to see if I was actually the crazy one but I wasnt. its so scary being in that spot not knowing because you love them sm that you hope its maybe you so you can try better or harder to love yourself more for them but it isnt that at all.
same when I was in a toxic relationship i started to record to see if i was crazy and acting how he said i was and also for a paper trail if things ever escalated (which they did) i started recording after one fight where he held me down choked me and while trying to push him off so i could breath i accidently elbowed his lip after his lip was inflamed and he started telling people i hit him which i didn't after that i knew i needed evidence
If she doesn’t get arrested, I give up of humanity. This case is just insane, the victim isn’t alive to tell his side of the story. The level of disrespect the victim’s family got from the police/detectives is nothing like I’ve heard before, it’s just enraging.
This is horrible, it’s obvious that she k!lled him. They were both toxic but he stayed. He stayed through everything. She deserves to be in jail for many many years. You can tell the police and everyone involved did not so there job to help this man. He was a victim and she is the killer. Disgusting
I don’t think anyone is claiming that she didn’t kill him. She did, she admitted to “throwing” the knife at him. (Edit) Which caused his death. What they are trying to figure out whether she accidentally killed him out of self defense, killed him without pre meditation(in the moment), or planned to kill him. I agree with you btw! But even the shitty cops and others know she is the one who killed him.
The cops and court know she killed him but the argument now is was it legally justified. Hopefully, the prosecutors are doing their job cuz heck so many ppl without legal power have already dug into everything and we leave the rest to the jury
As someone who has been abused by their significant other, you don't raise your hand to hit back if you fear them. People saying she's the only victim are delusional. If she was so afraid of him she wouldn't openly hit him for fear of what he would do to her behind closed doors. Physical abuse shows who has the power in the abusive dynamic because if they can physically hurt someone they claim to love then they have no control as a person, period.
There are different types of abuse. I'm the same as you but had a gf who's bf would beat the shit out of her but she wasn't afraid to hit him back and I literally told her that scared me more because that's how things escalate!
@Noodles please remember the recordings, even if he stager the audio ones, the elevator one and her behaviour in public clearly shows she was the abuser/ attacker/ the one that held the power. Destroying him mentally and emotionally, humiliating, gaslighting and belittling him, making him sleep on the floor of the elevator/ in the lobby...she held all the power and took her frustrations on him.
@@noodles5004 how’d you know the boy hit her? Because she told you? There have been many cases where the killers the abusers actually would tell family and friends they are abused but it’s the other way around. Do verify
That is so disrespectful, the fact that nobody called the family. It’s a call. It’s not rocket science. This was a person that died, a human. How should the family not be notified? Ugh! What a terrible way to find out about your son, the call about the organs 😢
I am pretty sure anyone is allowed to do self defense. Problem is we are much, much stronger, it's pretty easy to over do it, or, faced with a crazed women, hurt her, because she is moving recklessly or is threatening with some sort of weapon. As soon as there are a few scratches or bruises on the woman, she can easily claim he was the one abusing. Also, the problem is if the abused, doesn't have a place to stay, they are renting together or whatever. I am just thinking of practical reason, that aren't "..but I love her".. for not just straight up leaving the same second the other person becomes violent. If I found my "perfect" lady, beautiful as an angel, with all the character traits I value the most, and her only downside would be random bouts of violence, uff... I don't know, I got a spare bedroom, so I guess, I would be ok living with such a person if I could lock myself during sleeping. I wouldn't be able to sleep, if she might stab me during my rest. But she would need to be perfect, and that just doesn't exist.
@@HS-ie8tj yeah, but I want kids.. My condition is to find a women to which I am attracted to and vice versa, both physically and mentally. I have my own apartment and after a few months of dating and .asking sure we are on the same page about kids, I would ask her to move in with my. My condition is simple. We need to spend at least two years together, through up and downs, to really get to know each other. I am not repeating my mistake with last girlfriend who could never spend more then night or two.. it turned out she was a pathological liar, and if it wasn't for same female friends we had, and me knowing those friends for much longer, also her stories presenting me in such a cruel light, so much so, that they felt obligated to tell me, I would lose much more then half a year.. she lied flawless, but she was also malicious.. She would break up people.. Also don't want to do what my parents did, I was barely five when they divorced and it was borderline violent.. So either we live two years together, hopefully go through some major turmoil and comeone stronger, or very break up. I am not doing to my kids what my parents ( from best intentions) did to us.. Made me play messenger from 6 to 15 since not even a phone call could pass without shouting or cursing.. I still got scars on my soul from that..
Agreed. Then get the heck away from them cause you’ll end up dead or in jail. Men who are victims of abuse need to speak up more so that other men are aware of the signs and feel supported coming out.
Regarding the shark thing, I've met a girl once who told me she has such a phobia of sharks that she can't go swim in a lake, river, pool, and sometimes she gets uneasy even in a bathtub. She explained that rationally she knows perfectly well that there is no shark in a pool or a lake, or a bathtub, she's aware of it, but that's not how phobias work, she just cannot go in a pool and enjoy it because she feels so anxious the whole time, it's more of a torture than a pleasure.
Kinda same with me. With any water (pools, lakes, ponds, etc) I am terrified that there will be a shark or something similar lol. I know there isn’t. In a pool I can literally SEE no creature is in there, but as soon as I get in my anxiety goes through the roof. It’s better if the pool is crowded, still have a lil bit of anxiety though haha. And I even looove the feeling of swimming. Phobias/ irrational fears are strange things indeed.
My husband’s ex wife would do this to him. She would hit him even in front of the kids, blow up over EVERYTHING, gaslight, cheat but says he was, and actually had him believing he had a mental illness and he ended up in a psychiatric ward for a week. He had counseling where they opened his eyes to the 13 years of abuse. His ex would record him after she would push him over the edge. She would be calm and “the victim “ because he’s so abusive. In the year and half my husband and I have been married and have faced extremely stressful life experience back to back…. he’s never once acted how she protrudes him. I know people react differently in each relationship and my husband isn’t perfect or innocent but this stuff happens to guys more than others realize.
My heart goes to this poor guy and his loved ones. As a former victim of DV and SV, I can recognise all the signs of abuse coming from the gf, who held all the power. Of course he slept in the elevator, since she was paying for the rent and kicked him out. He was a man who told everyone how amazing she was, so i bet he was embarassed to go back to his family with the tail between his legs and admit how horrid she was to him and how badly she treated him for such a long time. I hope his family is at peace and healing and she gets what she deserves for taking away his life 😢😢😢
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The fact that even her friends siad that SHE was the aggressor. And even an ex BF of her saying she would swing knives at him, kinda says it all.
Exactly what I was thinking !
Nah exs always say shiz
People online were saying that he deserved it cause as a black man he shouldn’t date white women and because he dated her instead of a black woman that’s what he got
The videos, cctv, audio recordings and his previous stabbings - yikes - that’s what you really need
Who the hell does that swings knives? 😂 Wow glad she’s locked up maybe should should have stopped slut around and going to bars and instead worked on her mental health. Pathetic
Crazy how just by christian "charging" at her, the staff calls the police. But when she was slapping and yelling at him in public, nobody cared enough to call the police
It's because he's a guy, and most times they call on her behalf if he's the one being the aggressor. It's a double standard for men tbh, and sometimes women too. but for him to just end up dead out of nowhere, and her being the only one, all fingers of question point to her.
Because they're all racist 💀
@@Macskinny76not only a guy but a black guy that made them call the police
Women get away with a lot
@@proverbs31university Right like you don't. One woman abuser doesn't suddenly cancel out all of the cases where men were the aggressor, talked about on this channel.
Never ever any excuse for you to call your partner of another race a slur! It's a violation and shows you don't love them, she also had a fetish for blk men vs loving them as an individual
He literally was disrespecting black women. Who cares, he praised white women & got murdered by one.
Right?! It’s so disgusting. My boyfriend is a different race. And the idea of ANYBODY using a slur against him enrages me. This young man deserved so much better.
Right it was so sad
Without mutual respect, the relationship is basically dead
same for any slurs. it’s shows their inner feelings abt wat they truly think u r to them
I appreciate you bringing up what Christian said about Black Women. As a Black woman, reading them was very discouraging (a preference is fine but bashing others in the process isn't). But how people think some mean tweets is equivalent to deserving to be in an abusive relationship where you're repeatedly emotionally manipulated, attacked, stabbed, and KILLED is beyond me. Seek therapy.
It ain't right.... but it's a mfer ain't it. That's some fucked up ass karma for self hate. Type of shit you don't even wanna look at bc its so ugly.
Personally I think this came into play when his family was asking the black community to “help”. No one wants to help parents who raised a young man to be that nasty towards women in his own community. Get the community he loved so dearly to help.
Maybe the idea that he belongs to a community, that is solely defined by race, is part of the same problem.
Listening to her speak, I couldn't help but scroll through the comments to see if she would address this very point. And she did! While it's true that nothing justifies his brutal death, maybe if he had approached things with a different mindset, he might still be alive today. It's a tough pill to swallow, but personal responsibility and mindset do play a role in shaping our outcomes. I hope he's at peace now. 🙏🏾
@@sjames5777 EXACTLY however, I don't think his parents raised him to be like that. Culture probably had a hand or two with his mode of thinking. Regardless, the problem is he wasn't the only one. So many black women bust their ass trying to get Stephan Clark his justice only to find out later he post many comments along the line of, and I quote "dark bitches bring dark nights" who the hell continues to fight for someone who thinks of them like that? Not me that's for damn sure!
His ‘love letters’ are definitely traumatic as hell. This man was gaslit and abused all the way up until he was stabbed.
srsly?? theres proof that she was the aggressor.
@@mikellemyers they didnt say she wasnt ?
@@mikellemyersHow did you get that they said she wasn’t???
@@kimisab2227 I think they misunderstood the comment
Except the violent acts my mother has very similar situation with her new boyfriend. He can make himself look very friendly for everyone around him but when he is home he is literally mentally abusing her to the point where she also started drinking alcohol to "escape". So I could see her being the ultimate victim even after seeing this video.
She claims that she threw the knife from 10 feet away..? Is she a ninja? This woman is just something else. I hope Christian’s family is doing well after all of this.
Even professional knife throwers said it’s physically impossible for her to do that and where it was hit and how deep it was.
nahs man, next thing she’ll say is christian slipped and fell on a knife
LOL a ninja
Her mother gifting her knives for christmas was a bad omen. Weird.
@@glfxfa5452 it's a lot more to do with the build up to m*rder than most people understand... And she was on the phone to her mother in TX the entire time also.
This brings a whole new level to the term "facilitator" and "enabler".
The fact that she called her mom before calling the police after stabbing Christian in order to come up with a cover story tells me everything i need to know about who the guilty party is.
The whole family needs to go to jail
While this chick is definitely guilty, I think most any time someone says something like: "[blank] is all I need to hear, they're guilty" shows a pretty big lack of understanding of people. Innocent people can do all sorts of shit that make them look insanely guilty, and guilty people can appear innocent, it's just reckless to assume guilt or innocence because of an action like calling her mom, or body language, or most any other singular reason.
@@davidschmidt2081 - Yet you think she is guilty. Lol
Wouldn't want any of you on a jury if I had to go to court 😅😂
@@SmilerORocker - Dont kill anyone than you would be good. Lol
I must have watched 50 of your videos this past month and i should say you're one of the best story tellers around.
Literally me fam. Clicked a video on a whim (don't even know why it was recommended to me. I don't follow anything even related to true crime here) but was hooked instantly. I love her delivery and cadence.
I am literally so deep in watching her videos, I saw my first one two days ago and am just binging the heck out
& she does it soo "strategically" I adore her especially on this ONE ! 😅
Fr I'm literally binge watching her videos rn
Same
As a woman, it is so infuriating that "Women Support Women" seems to have been twisted into "Women Enabling Women" for some and it is disgusting
This comment resonated with me so much because I’ve been talking about this for so long on IG and Threads this is no longer “Women Support Women” it’s women enabling shitty behavior from other women and it’s turning into toxic feminism
I can’t with them, I feel like those are narcissistic women who want to twist feminism into “me and me first because I said so”
No feminist is defending free pass for women to commit crimes. In fact, speaking to promote violence is a crime in itself and it is not covered by freedom of speech. Female killers exist all throughout history (in numbers way below men) and just like anyone that is caught they will try to talk their way out of it by using the best arguments available. Trying to twist the narrative to make herself/himself the victim to justify the crime is a strategy as old as time and definitely not feminism invention. Example, from single individuals to a whole political power system, Christianity has been used to justify their killings but that doesn’t mean this is what Christian faith is about. Feminism aims to stop specific gender violence towards women and not to give the group the right to kill. This perception is just a reflection of the systematic discrimination the feminists movements have been receiving online and in churches. And one of the ways to do it is by associating feminism with acts of violence that are unrelated to it and by discrediting the victories it conquered for women. This woman didn’t kill her partner because feminism built a society where the women is entitled to the men’s body and life. She killed him because she is a violent person and feminism didn’t pass a single law that obstructs the justice system from doing his murder justice and condemning her from her crimes.
#facts
Are you denying that doesn’t happen?
As a woman that was in a reactive abusive relationship, this is NOT that. She was the aggressor, most definitely.
Same and I was thinking the same thing!
Men are always the aggressive ones tho so🤷🏻♀️
@@Xaixiuwhat a disgusting close-minded way to think about the world
@@basildasil it's true tho. All men are violent and disgusting monsters. They will take advantage of you I given the chance. The date proved it. All men are evil.
@@Xaixiuno. Fuck off with that. Feminism = equal
As a black wxman, I really appreciate how you spoke about and talked about the racism points with such importance and depth!! Thank you, stay safe everyone!
It almost brought a tear to my eye, she really didn't have to have that much consideration that it's so much deeper than any outsider could try to understand looking in, especially being a product of mixed love, I have such a hard time with that topic as well.
Fun fact Christian didn't like black women, he spoke openly about it so your black woman sympathy for him is pointless.
that's why i always return to her videos. so much truth, honesty, and emotion
@@poeticjustice7371 same here 😢
Lmao, racism doesn’t exist people
It's hard to understand why people stay in toxic relationships until you're in one. The man who abused me was the most loving person. I didnt see that he was slowly taking control of every aspect of my life. At the end i was so isolated that i had no one to call when he split open my skull. I passed out and woke up covered in blood. He carried me to the bath and washed it all off. I was so confused and concussed. Its horrifying how quick things can escalate after they take away your support 😭😭😭😭
I used to say the bruises go away....(scars not so much).
The isolation is just as painful and abuse and the embarrassment and shame you feel keeps you from reaching out as well.
I'm glad we both finally got away from that existence. Xx
So very true. Was with a man for over two years and didn't know what type of relationship I was in till very recently! Always put me down in a round about way. Any compliment he gave me came with a put down. Then everything that he claimed he liked about me needed to be changed right down to hair color and the clothing I wore. Said I was intelligent at first then slowly was treated like I didn't have a brain. I went from a confident woman to someone who started doubting myself. All this was so very subtle until recently. He crossed the line when he started to attack my family members and I had enough. When I said goodbye he asked what happened we had such a beautiful relationship! When I told him he crossed the line and how he had the nerve to say I knew you didn't love me and were using me. Ha don't know where he came up with that. Since I left him I am getting my self respect back building my confidence up slowly and will be more aware of people. It is amazing what we do to each other or maybe I should say what we let others do to us in the name of love!
Her parents were arrested without bond yesterday for being in possession of Christian Obumseli’s laptop. Courtney’s family even received tips of what the password could be from Courtney’s attorneys. I hope Courtney get a lengthy prison sentence.
So a family of enablers then? Her behavior is like that of an overgrown spoiled child who can’t handle the “real world” aka that not everyone will agree with you and that not everything goes your way. Other people have breakups and don’t go screaming in the street having a breakdown, let alone attacking their partner on a regular basis, as that bystander said “that’s not normal.”
Yea, he seemed very simpish. Who would whine she wasn't waking up happy after getting stabbed in the leg scenario? Was he attracted to the lifestyle or the ass? I mean honestly, he was bumming off her so he endured her insanity. He fell head over heels n simping to his fam right away. Guys stop putting pussy on a pedestal. Happens too often. Get to know the person passed the exterior
I was looking for this comment. They bonded out and their lawyer is saying these new charges are "troubling". That entire family doesn't know what accountability means.
@@xBreannaBananas shush!! I want to know all. I sure hope one of the TH-camrs spills all the tea soon.
I hope she gets life in prison
It’s so sad bc he could’ve been saved ! She obviously didn’t want that to happen. Men can be abused too and it is not forgivable .
He literally was disrespecting black women. Who cares, he praised white women & got murdered by one.
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no one said men couldnt be abused, only men say that
@@eo0-g9j no it's crazy actually...ppl rlly believe it.
Not only that, but the medics and the fucking police. I don't experience racism all that much in my country, or atleast i don't see it as much, so in my head it's like it doesn't exist. But god, the thinfs that black men has to go through wtf.
Just started the video, and decided to look Courtney up on Google to see if there were any advancements in the case since this video…only to see her parents were arrested for evidence tampering TWO DAYS AGO. Wild.
Bruh. Even her parents are bad...
Yet, she’s the victim here 🙄🙄 yeah right! This is injustice smh
There another video were he want to walk away from her & he is saying am leaving to calm down & she said no no I need to talk to you . When your partner want’s space to bring the heat down & they don’t let them
You should seen the body cam footage of them being arrested, they think its outrageous and get treated with kid gloved it's sureal
They were tampering with evidence... Why if their daughter is a victim what are they trying to hide. Defendants think they are smart and no one will find evidence against them but their actions speak louder than any evidence.
It's February 2024 and the trial still hasn't happened, but her parents were just arrested for taking her boyfriend's computer and having evidence.
Thank you for this post. December 2023 something was supposed to happen trial wise but I was never able to find anything. I chalked it up to they rescheduled or she stepped up to end all of this and said she was guilty. Now reading your comment I find I'm stupid to actually think it was the latter.
@@theendofanerror4173don't be so hard on yourself. You're ok. It'll just take a bit longer before the trial can start now because they need time to look through the computer's data.
my heart dropped when you explained the way christian’s mother found out about his death. losing a son is hard enough, but imagine if one moment you think your son is alive and well and the next moment you get a call about DONATING his dead body. i would be devastated!
Can you imagine being the person that called her? It would be so awkward but also must have felt so heartbroken and guilty for it. I'd have started crying on the phone.
This is just such a bad situation. I hope the family has made peace with it and I hope Courtney never leaves prison.
Rip Christian. You seemed like a genuinely sweet guy.
This is truly heartbreaking, hearing him begging courtney to stop hitting him brought tears to my eyes. How horrific
its actually insane how many women get away with abusing their partners literally because of the social stigma of men being the ones abused :
Unfortunately they do because men are more likely to be so which hinders many to see that it’s not one sided.
Right like it obvious that she is the aggressor but you know how the system go
dont forget the race issue too
@@symone6871 THIS TOO!
Yup. Look at what Amber Heard did. If it weren't for the proof and the recordings --- people wouldn't even find out that Johnny Depp didn't abuse her. It was the other way around.
No matter what mistake a partner might’ve done or what they might’ve fucked up, there is absolutely no reason to treat them like this. You can calmly express your emotions towards what they did
the entire time i felt like she was calling him the n slur, then you comfirmed it. shes a fetishizer and our community lets these girls get away with saying slightly off stuff and get confused when they look down on us. “i only date rich black men” is not something someone who’s normal and level headed would say.i wouldnt be suprised if she hurt him because she barely sees him as human. idc.n then the nerve to pull the “ i dont feel safe :(“ card in public, girl bye.
In one of those recordings she said "those dogs are more important than you". She didn't see him as even a loveable pet , he was beneath a mere dog, sheesh
and the fact that she would spit on him all the time, and im sure she knew that people were more likely to believe a white woman than a black man I cases of abuse
Preach. I told my boyfriend when we first started dating im not a fetish so don't dare treat me like one cause I've seen some people in your community do it. He acknowledged my concerns cause he too had seen it. This girl was allowed to abuse this man so freely its wild. Rip
Yep I had the feeling to :/
i gasped so loud when i head that part! the first clip were she clearly fetishizes black men already gave me the ick but omg the audacity of this “woman”…. so disgusting. christian really didn’t deserve any of that. i pray he gets justice. 🕊️🖤
“Is love going to kill me?” broke my heart especially since it did in a way
Exactly. It’s like he knew his faith
@@mrblanedyt9931 reall glad u agree
It's like he knew she was gonna kill him. 😔 So sad.
No part of this has love in it.
this is NOT love, she’s horrible and he did not deserve this. 😕
As a White Woman, seeing people online defending her after everything she had said to him is absolutely disgusting. Even if they are both abusers, that never gave her the right to stab him and cause him death, the fact it took her 10 minutes to call for help is really clear that she didn't want anyone to know what she had done. And also the fact that it took them so long to arrest her, really shows that men being abused aren't taken more seriously than women. People defending her and bashing on Christian about "shoving her" is really concerning for the future, what if there are more victims of abuse and when the victim pushes the abuser back it gets turned on them because they PUSHED them, I honestly find it really disgusting how other white people are on her side and calling him aggressive from a push, shows the racism tbh. No one ever called her aggressive from the LITERAL Camera footage of HER abusing HIM, even though she was literally abusing him, they still are pointing out that he was smiling and that egged her on, I cannot believe this reaction tbh, to it's truly just disgusting and sad for the men that have to go through with any kind of abuse from their partner and not being taken seriously by anyone.
Unfortunately this is something that happens already, both ways. Women have injured themselves and blamed it on their partner, or women that killed their abusive husbands in self defense going to prison for life for murder. Its horrible.
@@C-SD Yeah, people on social media can sometimes be really insensitive. And it goes both ways too. People have a tendency to blame the victim no matter the gender. There was a viral video of Chinese men beating up four women who were friends. Like really beating up. Stephanie had done a video on that. And there were a lot of comments blaming the friends who were the victims.
@@avamasquerade there are people who do ask that online
You can't both be abusers, it's just not how it works, it's one or the other person. IMO The person being abused can fight back and it looks like they are abusing, but they are not, they are fighting for their safety and sanity. How anyone can defend this pos woman is beyond me.
No one cares what colour skin you have. Im so sick of that being the start of comments. NO ONE CARES
Dude when she started saying that he made the mistake of not agreeing with her when she was having an argument with somebody else I had flashbacks and then the following argument that happened literally it's like I was back in my 8-year long travesty of a relationship
Honestly how dare anyone try to justify Courtney’s abusive behavior and her racism?! That is disgusting beyond belief. In interracial relationships, there is absolutely NO excuse to use racial slurs on your partner EVER!!!
She was slumming, and she didn't really want or love him it was just some gutter s*x jungle fetish nonsense... His lack of respect for himself made ever escalating levels of disrespect from her inevitable. 😑🤦🏿♂️
totally agreed
I don't think it's ok to call anyone a slur ever. period.
@@DumbBunnychic I agree. I apologize for not clarifying that.
yeah that felt so fucking disgusting on her part. I cannot see how anyone can think she’s innocent in any kind of way.
Christian was the victim. the recording reminded me of exactly how some of my worst relationships were. The apologizing bc you just want them to stop and you’re embarrassed bc they won’t and scared and regret doing whatever made them mad. you can’t fake that.
YES YES YES literally same tbh.
"I should've never asked you to apologize and made you feel bad."
That is someone who has had their emotions devalued to the point where they don't feel like they're allowed to be hurt or angry because it's been treated like that is completely unreasonable.
Yep it is difficult to replicate in a controlled environment. It's raw situational emotion.
I’m the audio sounds so scary. I feel so bad I’m sure he was terrified of her but who could he confide in? Who would believe that this pretty little white girl is abusing him. My heart breaks because I think he knew his life was in danger which made him start secretly recording.
@@celeste7469 I thought the same. Once you feel the need to record, that's a huge red flag. I did that once in a really toxic relationship. I just wish he took off back to TX when she kicked him out. I had to do that once. I'd rather look like a b*tch running for my life than staying and having it end really bad. Nice name btw.
@@celeste3100 is it only me but once you've actually been in scenarios like this, watching things like this give you a weird stomach or reaction feeling? I find myself skipping certain parts especially the letters. it is so weird most notice how many " flag" there after they've left the relationship. The need for him to apologise for asking he to apologise immediately let me know she's guilty. I hope his name doesn't get left in vain and they do charge her. I hope all of you who have been through anything remotely similar are in a better place now. Peace & love💚
I got tired listening to Courtney screaming. OMG. It's obvious there's a gender and racial bias here. Since she's a white woman who killed a black man. The idea seems unlikely for the police to accept other that "self defense". SMH. We wouldn't know if he could have been saved if EMS are called immediately or not and how fatal the wound was. The authority is not putting much effort to this crime.
They are just waiting for the trial now.
Right! I have such respect for him.. I really don't know if I would have been able to keep from punching her directly in the head the first time she started screaming at me like a f*cking lunatic because we're having a disagreement? This is what people who don't learn how to appropriately regulate their emotions as toddlers and fry their brains on drugs turn out to be. So damn sad.
I hope she goes to jail for at least man slander. You keep letting monsters walk around more people become monsters and than you start seeing as we already starting to see people take things into their own hands, and say f## the justice system I get my own justice.
He should have left when she stab him. That a clear sign she willing to kill. But he didn’t want to let her go because it was the lifestyle and plus must have believed he could change her.
But even if someone abused you but it very, very clear he wasn’t because if he was she would have been like Tina Turner jumping if she thought she even said the wrong word. I seen real women abuse by a dangerous man and they knew to listen to him. There was a true crime case where a woman plan her escape from her crazy ex. The court system work against her and she had to pay him but she keep moving around and keep her son safe. She was right about that but because he couldn’t get a hold of her he killed six of the people that work on her case. She wasn’t really being abused and I bet him pushing back was self defense, or they both was hitting on each other but it clear she was the aggressor because it seem he was getting afraid of her. I got someone guy that was getting beat up by his lover to get out, that not normal and I know your mom says not to hit on a girl but get out before you end up dead. I witnessed this twice and thankfully both got out of their abusive relationship.
This is pure murder and it clear she didn’t love him because she not taking responsibility of her actions. That a purely evil person and people defending her I bet wouldn’t want their child dating her, or even date her for long because this will repeat itself. Like the woman that killed her first husband and got away with it just to turn around and kill again, and only got catch because she wasn’t fast enough in killing her daughter in the hospital. She very dangerous to society and she clearly needs help.
Besides she only beating up on him because she knows she can get away with it and that deep down inside she hates herself and how she don’t have control so she kicks the puppy or the next person she think she can. She hiding her pain and the drugs not taking the sadness away, the shopping sprees and the frame isn’t bringing her happiness but a short live quick fix. I hope she goes to jail but even if not she going to go down that dark hole all by herself with no help and it’s going to get deeper. Karma is knocking at her door.
Imagine being 'jealous' when he said hi to someone but being on onlyfans for the world to see ya 🤮
Right her parents completely failed to teach her that " modest is hottest"!!
THIS
@@emeraldrayv3nokay she is a horrible person but get out of here with your purity culture christian bullshit u weirdo
even without the onlyfans thing, being jealous about saying hi to someone is crazy 😭
@@elephorofonius exactly!
How can anyone think he was abusive? Every instance is him just pouring his heart out and apologizing for accidentally making a mistake. Everything sets her off and he sounds like he's always walking on eggshells. And she calls him racial slurs.
Yep, and he STILL doesn't leave!
I strongly get the sense that it seems he had a strange emotional and physical dependence upon her. A weird codependency.
Listening to the audio was hard. She was straight up scary. They were not married they had no kids together why the heck didn’t he leave!? I’m not victim blaming I’m not understanding. No one deserves to be treated that way.
@@celeste7469 Love makes u blind
@@carcher3279 he couldnt leave. he moved away from his family to be with her if he left that mean hed loose his house where would he go?
She's so incredibly abusive, it's even scarier to realise this happens alot behind closed doors to women and men not daring to speak up in fear of what she did. Just Google her name.. the picture of her in handcuffs.. looking all bloody. She definitely has mental health issues beyond reason. People should've stepped in.
The majority of men who are abused by a partner do not speak up. Why would you call 911 to tell them your wife or lover is beating you or sexually harrassing you when you'll just get laughed at? Men being raped or sexually assualted or harrassed in general is never taken seriously unless it's being done to them by another man. If a woman is the perpetrator, then there's not going to be much done. It's extreamly sad.
@@octogonSmuggler exactly. Which is why people outside of the relationship should've stepped up or helped him. He didn't deserve this and I know how hard it is to get out.
@@octogonSmuggler Laughed at? In most states the police HAVE to arrest someone at the site of a DV call, and they'll take away the man regardless of evidence present.
It's example of a well-intentioned thing going very, very wrong.
I feel like what makes me sick to my stomach is the fact. Her abusive long him would’ve never went this public if he wasn’t dead. He had all those recording and evidence. But I know he was still too afraid to speak up. Throughout this whole video that’s all I could think of. How he probably in those few moments of bleeding. He probably wish he would’ve spoken out sooner. And for that I just hope anyone that’s in an abusive relationship. Mental or physical. Just look at this story and understand that time doesn’t change a person. Just makes them worse. It’s best to find a way out of the relationship now then wait later on. Reach out for help.
@@layladavis02 Yup, always remember that it's never worth being with someone that does not respect you. Period. It doesn't matter how much they say they love you.
She sounds like a raging cokehead. I don't think he was as interested in partying that same way, as evidenced by his letters. Coke is a terrible ego drug. I worked in nightlife for many years and have witnessed some truly unhinged rage and brain rot and soul rot coming from regular cocaine users. If you have any propensity to be aggressive with others, it can amplify it 1000%. I feel so bad for Christian's family. He didn't deserve that.
Thats what i was thinking, at one point.. I was like yup she on drugs. I lived with roommates who did coke and the rage was random but def happened.
A raging coked out racist
u can even just hear it in her voice too!
She was probably on steroids too. Seems like roid rage
I've seen cokehead rage too and its literally terrifying. It feels like they're going to kill everyone in the room.
It is weird knowing that someone was born in your hometown and turned into someone like this and never hearing about it until now. She was not the victim Christian was.
Omg. This woman is literally horrible. She was abusing him and brainwashed him into thinking he was the cause of his own abuse. She’s a monster. That poor man. I want to cry I feel so sad for him.
Thats what my Ex did to me " you just piss me off so much that i balckout and hit you, you know how bad it makes me feel?" she could say after she beat the fuck out of me for not cleaning well enough
@@Danovioso sorry you went through that 😢
@@DanovioI’ve gone through the same, I just remember asking myself why I could never do anything right
@@gravy069 aye... and what was worse is that i cleaned, cooked, preped the kids for kinder/school and went and left them there, i went to the store to get all grociers, i picked up the kids, cooked food, prepped them for bed, and then went to work night shifts, did this for atleast a year and she still said i did not help anything at home....
@@Danovio that’s awful I’m so sorry bro
The way you deliver information so delicately yet factually, but with compassion and empathy is very refreshing.
‘Christian has the tendency of documenting the abuse from her side’ but Christian is the only one who has been to the hospital multiple times? Christian is not the one who went to jail for domestic abuse?
ONG
I’m confused but I understand what you’re getting at.
That was my thought too. How many times did she have to go to the hospital for being stabbed or physically abused? And if there's complaints he's only recording his side, she had every right to start recording too from 'her side' to ensure all angles were documented.
I'm not saying Christian is necessarily entirely innocent- i absolutely do klnow of abusers who are very good at acting 'rational' and apologetic etc when they're being watched- but from what's been revealed of all this so far, the guy certainly sounds like he was heavily abused by her. It doesn't help that, in a lot of these recordings and body cams, she sounds really intoxicated and/or high which adds a whole extra level. Any sort of aggression + substance abuse is a recipe for disaster.
If christian had hit her she 10000% would have called the cops and said " that nword hit me"
Totally unrelated but I love your voice. It's calming, even as I listen to you go over horrific details of a murder
As a DV survivor, her texts to him def bring back memories of my experiences of lies and manipulation.
Same
Apologies but what does dv mean?
@@That_simson_is_here domestic violence
You're not a "survivor" lmfao. I know, being a victim is fun, but please just stop. You're embarrassing yourself
@@reynaatzi thank you
i've been in a relationship with a girl like that and she was also white. during a fight she would literally spit out racial slur just like courtney, and would quickly play victim when you're aguing back. but when you stay silent and give in she'd make it worse, intimidate and gaslight you more. the cycle repeats.
Omg I’m so sorry, I hope you’re safe and away from her now.
Its called abuse she probably is a narcissistic abuser
Sorry nigga
Glad that you survived it, in this life one lives and learns.
Her whole behaviour before and after the murder seems like, she was raised by her parents to be super entitled. The fact that she was a repeat offender with various unlawful activities suggest that her parents never reprimanded her for her actions. She became like this because she was very sure, that she will can never face any consequences of her actions. An example of extremely bad parenting. I hope she given a life sentence for her crime without any possibility of parole. She is danger to the society.
Agreed.
dude she murders him wtff.. i didnt read the title
I was dog walking at that building that day. A tall black guy with huge muscles asked me:” Can I go in the elevator with you? I am scared to be here alone,” He told me the story and that she was out and in the building. The story is chilling, and that huge guy looked so scared, too. I got a better job offer shortly after, so I never returned. But it is weird to see this story on TH-cam now 🥶
I have borderline personality disorder and am also a mental health care worker in nyc and come to conclusion that people that experiences childhood sexual trauma will behave like this in adulthood, especially when they do drugs too and haven’t had pivotal learning experiences on how to manage their emotional disregulation. I used to be like this in my early twenties but years of therapy helped me no longer physically harm my partners. But during those days I felt like I was the one abused, hurt, and isolated and had to harm the person that made me feel so beaten. Only through support did I learn that what I feel does not make it the reality. I appreciate you a lot Stephanie for bringing light to these situations.
I love that how ur now in the mental health field! Full circle moment yknow. I've been diagnosed with CPTSD bc of prolonged SA and child abuse throughout my childhood and now I want to work at a daycare bc I now know I have the tools to help nurture these kids of tomorrow!
Sigh, I had BPD too and as soon as I realised I threw a plushie to my boyfriend when I was upset and that means im toxic, I signed myself up to therapy, saying Im toxic and want to change that. I hate seeing her hit him as if feeling invalidated justifies physically harming someone like that... Not to mention the racist slurs!
When she was questioned by police after she was concerned about how terrible her day was which leads me to believe narcissism is in play too
This is a reasonable and wise thing to say. The story is so emotional. It is hard to be reasonable and wise. It is still true "Hurt people hurt people."
This is so sad; many women get away with abusing their partners because of the social stigma that men are the abusers and women are the victims. Thank you, Stephanie, for talking about this case.
you literally just copied another comment almost word for word ???
@@speccysquaregolike9629 true
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its men saying this not women
its not a stigma, its just facts. women are more abused than men AND men are the biggest perpetrators. BUT male victims are just as valid and deserve justice.
I do think that race, wealth and pretty privilege have something to do with the fact that she wasn't detained that same day. I just feel so bad for Christian's family. And his poor mom, the way she found out about his death was unacceptable,
It's just how America is... The way that it has always been. I'm not surprised. I live in the UK and it would be roughly the same here. His longing to be in an unequal relationship and a violently toxic one all at his own expense had cumulative consequences in the end and for me that is the teachable takeaway here.
It very much is. And I hope she doesn’t get away with it. She’s a horrible human being.
Pretty? Where? 🤣
I think all those things are exactly why this all happened and why she was or became the horrible person that she did ... I don't know any dudes or people who would've held it together and not hit her back when being pounded on like that. He didn't even say mean things or call her names when she was!
Not so much race as wealth. If she were filthy poor and white, she would've been 100% detained.
Money talks, unfortunately..
❤ Thank you for always being respectful and understanding Stephanie. It says a lot !🙏🏾
Nah. She’s a pure murderer. I saw another TH-cam channel that basically showed her many run ins with the cops. And from the bodycam footage to the interrogation footage of her run ins she’s definitely got a track record of abusing the crap outta that man and he just kept taking her back to his demise.
did you watch the whole video?
Sad it’s the type of “love” he wished for.
I feel so bad for him. Racism and men not being believed for domestic abuse are a huge reason why this had to escalate this way :(
honestly not respecting men comes with that type of work, i mean would you really respect a man if you dont even respect yourself enough? or if he doesnt respect himself enough to demand a woman to be private for him only, besides that the desguisting man on these websites also distort a womans view on man. ive heard many adult actress talk about that, that they would never be able to see a man as not disguisting or creepy or weak
@@JustMe-vs1kj she was abusive before she did this work. She broke a guy's jaw.
Their relationship was extremely toxic and excruciatingly exhausting. My condolences to him and his family 🙏🏻
She is the one alive so above their relationship being toxic. She needs to be in jail.
This is why the VICTIM is too exhausted to leave...The minute they start to recover from the trauma, it starts up all over again!!!
AND, if you finally do have the strength to finally walk out the door, they will breadcrumb you back in with their love bombing of false hopes and promises.
It's an insidious form of brainwashinmg.
Not yet but I will make one soon
It amazes me how people can live in a relationship like that.
People really need to love themselves more not be so dependable.
I genuinely feel so bad for Christian, the fact she called him the n-word slur is SHOCKING to me like omg the disrespect toward her OWN partner. And the poor man having nowhere to sleep like my heart is absolutely broken for him.
As someone with a white mom and black dad, it's unfortunately very common for them to go that low in an argument.
Obviously not all interracial relationships, but the fetish-y ones.
really? is it that shocking? it's literally the most mild thing she's done
@@dokidokidokidokidoki what is shocking to one person doesnt always have to be shocking to another, so yeah it is shocking to me
He was a PLAYTHING for her... I am not convinced of her claiming to ever love him. Plus I think to an extent he fetishized her also.
@@joannaquan177so her repeatedly stabbing him, lying saying she abused him, her being the abuser and aggressor, her not having remorse for what she done and going back to doing OF, none of that is more shocking than saying the n word.
I love the way you tell a story. I could close my eyes and see the entire picture you paint. You are awesome!!❤
I've noticed a commonality or correlation between fetishism and abuse. Most stories that I've heard of abuse involving a fetish have this same structure. A person with the fetish verbally, physically, and emotionally abusing the person with said idolized features. It's almost like from the start the victim was never a person, their only value were their features.
yes. the person is strictly an object and not a real person. I went through this with my last ex, i didnt realize how much i was abused until after contact with him stopped. i started standing up for myself and he started gaslighting me so hard. i called him out on the gaslighting and he blocked me because I wasn't under his control anymore.
@@dokidokidokidokidoki shid crazy, sorry you went through that
It is good that on occasion I will come across individuals that understand how this relationship dynamic operates, but when will our people start getting it collectively as a group?
They literally just need Christian’s hospital records of the stab wounds the face slash and the texts of her admitting that she did do those things… she has a history OF STABBING!!!
Yep she stabbed her previous boyfriend back in TX (pre Obumseli) Rolling Stone magazine tracked down the guy for an article on the case.
that audio recording brings so much anxiety it hurts my chest. That's exactly how my mom acted & screamed during my teenage years, down to the way she responded throughout & even the part where she threatened to un*live herself. all bcs I disagreed to her opinion during a supposedly friendly discussion on how to solve a trivial problem.
It’s a full blown, untreated personality disorder (on the Cluster B spectrum) throwing an adult tantrum.
I hope you're okay now... I'm so sorry for what you went through. I'm so glad you're here with us today and I hope you no longer have to deal with your mother's abuse anymore
Your mom?! Shit
Its disgusting how we, as a society, still try and minimize domestic abuse against men. If the genders in this case were reversed, no one would dare to dispute or attempt to justify the abuse.
No we dont!! Men do this to other men. Period. Women who arent abusers alllll get it and feel like it has to stop!
I think the Vegas trip is where she learned that she needed to make accusations against him if she was going to get away with being violent. She started “exposing “ a pattern of abuse to lay the foundation of her alleged innocence.
Yep, I agree it seems consistent with the timeline and it is when she first started to get arrested and so because she intended to continue being violent towards him she needed to offset this by creating her own abuse narrative... I saw her on the body cam footage and she seems so taken aback that she was even being arrested in LV,
Now Fast forward to the building lobby footage back in Miami and she says something that's crucial on MPD body cam asking: "How can she file a court restraining order against Obumseli BEFORE him because she wanted to get there FIRST". all part of building a victim narrative for herself. Not to say that I am a mind reader but I suspect that she at least partially planned this. Plus there is the audio recording by Obumseli recording where Clenney says that she "literally wanted to unalive Obumseli but said he didn't take her seriously." = Premeditation.
Someone who threatens to end their life is in an argument far more likely to end your life. This is not normal, please remove yourself from these situations entirely.
This is a sick weapon of abuse. Abusers do this, they have no intention of ridding the planet of themselves.
off topic but, it’s beyond freaky to know that courtney was watching christina randall’s channel and her intro goes “make sure to be kind to everybody, everywhere” courtney heard that then 30 or so minutes later killed a man, it’s CRAZY. it just shows how inhuman and cold she is as a person, how could you hear a story of another victim & then create another.
I KNOW! Christina even talked about it in a video bc so many people were tagging her about it 😢
drugs alters your mind to a point that you cant think straight and healthy and often toxic situations involve drugs. its not an excuse (because its peoples choice to take them as well) but its deffenitly an explanation as to how and why these people can do such evil things
There is a movie that came out last year on literally the same topic…it’s called Sissy a horror/triller…the girl in the movie said almost the same thing at the end of all her videos and was an influencer…the weirdest, campiest shit I have ever watched but it was sooo good…
To think this crazy woman want to have children. As soon as she can’t completely control or they make she mad them she going to kill them and try to cover it up. You saw so quickly she didn’t care for her dogs and than got mad at him about the dog. Imagine that with a child she would be the mother from pure hell.
Yes!! She is a true MALIGNANT NARCISSIST!!
Thank you for your detailed report and objective assessment as well as stating the obvious things others try to negate in this horrible case. I really do appreciate your ability to do what you do at such a high level with respect and intrigue for telling these stories. You are one of one, and probably the best at this.
The role of race in this case is so layered and insane
Agreed.
It's America and it's the same here in the UK.
@@carcher3279 yeah 🇺🇲🇬🇧
So much to unpack and digest. One important thing I want to mention is that even though he recorded conversations, arguments, etc., the level of self control required to stay calm that entire time would be incredibly difficult to maintain.
I genuinely believe he did it for his own peace of mind or protection. Who knows, maybe he recorded it just for himself to clarify in his mind whether he was somehow gaslighting her or if she was the one gaslighting him.
Overall, it sounds like it was an incredibly unhealthy relationship but I get the strong sense she was the abuser and he may have reacted in less than healthy ways at times.
yea no shit she was the abuser lmao its quite obvious
@@hotsexyangel I understand your opinion, I was merely sharing mine and some potential insight into his actions. Your response simply sounds like a reaction and doesn't add anything to the conversation.
He had to do that, how else do people believe a man who is being abused? She could've easily spined the narrative on him if he did not have proof.
He was a black man with a white girl. He had to start recording for his protection as a man and as a black man.
Not really, she is a mental. She is an abusive druggie alcoholic, narcissistic killer. Pretty simple to me
I love how you paint a picture of the criminals you cover. It helps me separate the person they are vs the things they have done. Sometimes it helps me get a better understanding of why they did what they did.
People even thinking that it was self defence is crazy. Just listen to those text messages. How many times he mentioned getting hurt so badly and still no threat. I hope she rots in jail her whole life.
He was the graduation class before me...... Same school ..same city...
This is crazy .. this video... Is literally way more informative than the news put out...
This really hit hard...
I feel and pray for his family ..
💔
Oh I bet that makes it 10x more heartbreaking actually knowing the person even if you weren’t friends it’s still scary
She should be in jail for the rest of her life! And the way she treated her boyfriend --- the accusations, abuse, hitting, etc. There's a special place in hell for people like her. I hope she doesn't get away with this or there's another victim in the hear future. She's a psycho!
I remember this case. Courtney is so evil. A pretty face doesn't mean a pretty personality.
It's literally all makeup. Look at her photo in court. She's plain AF
Make up on the picture without make up she's doesn't even look pretty . Thag is the real you without make up not with make up.
That just looks plastic
She’s not even pretty
She's just white and blonde. The photos of her getting arrested and in court makes her look like a nobody
Thank you for briefing what the audio says bc I'm hard of hearing/deaf and don't have hearing aids. So it really helped. To gauge what was happening.
I feel like Courtney has anger issues, like with things that are not that serious to typical people, she escalates to unbelievable irrational anger and violence. It was also mentioned that she said she felt angry back in high school. She has been taking substances which could have exacerbated her anger issues.
I wonder how aware of the toxicity of their relationship their families were since both of them were close. I think their families should have helped advise both of them to stop the relationship.
If the genders were reversed, you'd wouldn't even be talking about the murderer's anger issues
@@eddy-currents every crime story video about male serial killer explains how he was abused in childhood etc. and what sort of mental health issues he had. Your take is bs.
@@rezq9109 But not in a way to insinuate that other people should have taken responsibility to stop the murder
@@rezq9109 the backstory helps but I blame her 💯 in this case. She called him names based on race and abused him. She’s 🗑
@@eddy-currents nah actully ive watch alot of true crime. They do put in the backstory and the anger issues and the killers, rather their male or female. Tbh it is a valid question to wonder if the families knew, if hers knew how abusive she was to him, if his family knew how much danger he was in. If the roles were reversed they would be talking about it. Especially since their anger issues can be even used in court to prove how abusive the killer was in the relationship. Since if unmanaged, they can become abusers . watch more true crime on male killers it's kinda the same way , they explain even the sexual abuse the killers go through. I'm not saying that there's a difference of how male and female abusers are treated, after all men are considered to be more angry while women are just "emotional" in everyway and weaker . So people often make it seem like only men can abuse but that's not the case . I'm just saying that ur kinda wrong in this situation.
Wow how is it that this is the first time I’m hearing about this case? I really must’ve really been living under a rock. Thank you Stephanie for covering this case!
She's beautiful and a troubled soul. She's needs therapy
I've heard of a case where an OF model killed her boyfriend in "self defense" but I just started this video so idk if it's the same case yet or not.
Edit: same case. But Stephanie is covering it so I know I'm going get way more info on it.
@@error404webpagenotfound my husband had told me about one and I believe it’s a different one than this one but I really have to look into it to remember
@@it-ke9od w h a t?
@@lukeiamyourfather666 I'm saying, she needs Better Help!
I live with someone like Courtney, but she’s abusive even to our parents. It’s scary, one time I accidentally brushef by her in the kitchen and she (21) went and tattled to my foster dad. He then came and told me (16) “you’re lucky you got away with that, usually you wouldn’t. I’m just trying to keep the peace she could have snapped and it would have been all bad” it’s very disturbing how even her parents are scared of her.
hey, i know its easier said than done and you may have tried all of these things but please try to do something about this, get some distance from her or call the police on her ( maybe your family can also back you up on it? ) because it sounds like a very emotionally draining and dangerous environment. i know its not that easy but i really hope you and your family get away from her and she gets the help that she needs.
Please go way, stop being with this perdón. Take this video as cautionary tale
Realise you're in danger bring around this person. Study hard and get away as soon as you can. Until then stay below her radar as much as possible.
please get out and cut her off people like her dangerous I work for the state on NJ in the court system and I watched this behavior too many times and she will be volatile to whom ever she meets but leave without tell her and get a restraining order right away
@Oof I wish I could but I’m a minor I can’t go anywhere
Its the fact that she called her boyfriend racial slurs, sent him to the hospital, hit him constantly and was insanly controling and people still think shes the victim is insane to me.
I didn't even know she called him racial slurs. His friends should've told him the truth. As a black woman, I can safely say it's not just his tweets that got him backlash in death it was previous situations involving black women dying and it being laughed at by black men. I do feel horrible for his family. Please, anyone in a relationship, regardless of gender don't ever ignore those red flags. Move away in silence if you must.
being a nigerian who was born in dallas, this story spread in the community like crazy. may he rest in peace
This man though was know for his xenophobia 😮. That being said I think this woman deserves Jail
@@rachymn7883 Wasn't it xenophilia that got him? Xenophobia is fear of outsiders. Seems to me he valued outsiders more than people in his ethnic group. He shouldn't have been stabbed, no question.
@@marcmielke if one is racist towards there own people from another walk of life. They are a Xenophob. Idk. But this man was a dic.
Edit- it's both. Since he hated mainly African American women. Still a dic
@@rachymn7883that is actually the opposite of xenophobia, try harder
Also a Nigerian and a parent of a young black man, this was a very emotional case
I’m glad I found this video. Because I’ve been thinking about getting a place to live with my ex from 7 years ago who was abusive. And this has been a stark reminder that it is not safe for me to do that. No one believed me when I said how abusive he was. I thought to myself I have to record our conversations to get people to believe me. I was choked multiple times, and got my finger broken. Everything was always my fault. He would snap at the most minor inconvenience. Please, anyone here, if you feel unsafe, even if no one else believes you, if you feel you have to record them for proof because they and everyone around you gaslights you, please please please get out. I can barely afford to live alone right now, and I have no friends to live with, because this person isolated me so much and everyone is too busy to accept a new friend. I’m not sure what I can do but I am now reminded I cannot go back to living with him. Stay safe.
wishing you the best of luck
I have been in a similar situation as you. As advice, one of my greatest mistake was believing it was to late to reach out to others, and that telling the truth was not possible among friends. It is worth a try, especially with what you are considering. You need to have vetter in life then that, so you never consider it again. Take care ❤
Most DV murders the perpetrator had choked the victim prior. Don't go back.
I hope that you remain safe in your own home now 💌
You do not deserve to be disrespected and abused. You deserve peace and real love.
I absolutely love your videos, no one gives quite as much details and background story as you do. Thankyou for all the work you put into these videos. It is so sad that this happened to him though :(
Courtney having bruises after Christian had been kicked out and then seeming to the cops like she was intoxicated: bruising can be caused by drinking (especially excessive/prolonged drinking)
It's also fishy to me that she yells at Christian like he never takes responsibility and is the problem. He apologizes to her and specifically explains which behaviors of his were wrong "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that. It's not okay." I've not heard her apologize to him once in the clips. She's literally throwing tantrums
and her insistence that Christian not speak to other women, and constantly having his location to the point of being furious when it's off, she's absolutely sus
She have it a big problem ,drink ect .. completly mad
As a black person/African this case pissed me off. I watched the interview where she says she only dates black guys. Her calling him the N word. Her beating him. Her mistreating him. He was basically a slave to him. Don't get me started with him saying he doesn't like black women. He really didn't like himself and the fact that he is black. His family failed him, he failed himself.
Stop that nonsense just because he said something years ago is irrelevant of him getting stabbed to death… I’m telling you this as a fellow African.
@@montana9131 No one is saying it’s relevant in the case of the actual crime. But it is relevant on who is actually going to defend him.
@@Leezy24 no it should not be… people keep bringing up those tweets as to blame him for his own passing… that is not right. You shouldn’t have to base your compassion for someone who wrongfully died on what he said as a college student. It was despicable yes but that’s the past and this is now
@@montana9131 an african in africa and an african in america is not the same. if your american and saying that you probably think like that too
@@hafsamohamed3555 I’m African born and raised… and it’s honestly sad that the community of black people has become like this. You die and everyone Carries social media tweets on their head… like is this supposed to be normal behaviour or did I miss the memo?
The way they are trying to spin this story as him the abuser with all the evidence is truly alarming an says alot about society 😢😢
HER VOICE HAS TESTOSTERONE SHOTS ALL OVER IT.
Heard many other female body builders that end up with a voice like that because it's super common in the body building community for testosterone, steroids and other "upper" drugs such as crack cocaine to be not just be recommended but also distributed and sold all in the gym.
HOWEVER the crack usage that was mentioned is an absolute recipe for disaster.
The reason I believe she was taking a HEAVY amount of Testosterone is because if you're on a super high dose for extended period of time your voice will stay deep and manly for the rest of tou life and this is clear to see here... But that's the LEAST of her worries😮 as its a very well known that using testosterone can cause horrendous aggression, fits of uncontrollable anger and violence a very built man that could cause serious injury to someone...
Stephanie give me a less creepy vibe then other true crime TH-camrs I get a very scared feeling when other people tell the story’s but with her it’s different I can listen to it in the night alone in my room with the lights off
SAME I think it’s just her fun personality
That's because they're not fictional stories that were made up to be scary. What you're noticing is the difference in her respect towards the victims and their families.
I really feel racism contributed to Christian's death. Like not just the nature of racism itself but the way she comes down on him in the videos of the abuse is like a plantation owner, like he is her property, he exists to worship her and how dare he even breath in the direction of another woman.
Once again, Rotten Mango, you tackle the tough, complex, heartbreaking stories with eloquence, empathy and deep insight. Thank you for all of your hard work.
I agree. She should be charged with hate crime and domestic terrorism.
Coming from a black woman, it’s narcissism first. Yes racism or race fetishisation plays out but those are symptoms/ traits of her narcissism.
Coming from a black woman, it’s narcissism first. Yes racism or race fetishisation plays out but those are symptoms/ traits of her narcissism.
Coming from a black woman, it’s narcissism first. Yes racism or race fetishisation plays out but those are symptoms/ traits of her narcissism.
She's guilty AF. I hope she is charged accordingly.
So Courtney claims he pinned her up against the wall and began choking her.... but every time we hear a recording or see a recording he is trying to defend himself without hurting her??????
He probably headlocked her like the elevator video. 100% not a choke/strangle
And also, I have been choked, and under no circumstances would I have been able to scream "stop choking me I can't breathe" as he did it. If you can't breathe, you can't scream. And she claims he held her up against the wall and then let her go so she drops to the ground basically insinuating that he lifted her up from the floor by her throat, and yet she was able to scream (but not breathe??) That shit is definitely a lie.
@@linasandstrom3414great point there, I’ve been strangled too and you can’t talk AT ALL it’s beyond scary. Really great point there
I have heard about this case multiple times watching several other channels videos but when I saw you did this case too, I am still going to watch it because I know I will still learn new things because of your depth in your videos and you paint a picture setting the stage so well
Add: I didn’t know Toby was his middle name
Seeing domestic abuse growing up, all I can say is she's very confident in how she speaks, yells, charges and attacks. That doesnt sit well with me with what I've witnessed and felt myself.
Her behavioral pattern reminds me so much of people with borderline personality disorder (BPD). Her childhood trauma and the cocaine use likely contributed to it. Cocaine abuse itself can change one’s personality towards many symptoms of BPD. She obviously needs mental help, but what happened to Christian and his family is truly heartbreaking. I’m also very disappointed at the people who jumped to conclusion solely based on race and gender in this case. Thank you Stephanie for covering this case.
Well said
i hate the correlation between bpd and abuse. theyre not related. not one statistic says people with bpd are abusive. she doesnt show any symptoms of bpd besides impulsivity and big emotions.
i live with bpd and the way she goes through her emotions reminds me a lot of myself when i’m very heightened.
@@kadencelynn8723This. Armchair therapists in the comments of these videos love to say anyone that's volatile "must have bpd." I don't link her to enough symptoms to diagnose it and as someone with bpd never related to her at all in this. But people will always be disappointing and stupid, just ignore them. The above comment does nothing but stigmatize and demonize us :/ people should not diagnose someone with a mental disorder from a true crime video, especially if they are not a therapist, especially because they don't know her personally and haven't properly done any tests or observation.
@@kadencelynn8723 i understand you’re coming from a place of protecting bpd from becoming a cruel, negative and dehumanising stereotype. i get it, i am her and she is me. bpd does not make people *inherently* abusive, but perception impacts reaction. more specifically, perception, *filtered through the sense of an individual person’s ethics and moral compass* , leads to reaction.
so what i’m tryna get at is that *bpd does not make you a bad person.* but a _bad_ person with bpd thoughts, behaviours and reactions can become lethally worse. add to that her particular bpd being aggravated by substance abuse, a clear constant unmedicated delulu manic episode (while insanely strong mind-altering chemicals are dictating her brain at this point), and being treated like a princess by her family who could do nothing wrong, no consequences? the bpd would just be the fuel to the fire.
i can say this with conviction because,,, although leagues and leagues harmless compared to her menace, i had a manic breakdown last year for about 3-4 months. i don’t recognise her, that person cannot be me. my worst crime would be being convinced my ex was being abused by his mom, ask him to move in with my family, and not giving him his phone back in the middle of the night- running crazy on the street with it, because i genuinely believed he was in the most atrocious and dangerous situation ever with his mom and she’s manipulating him to come back with her, and if i give him his phone back he will spiral deeper into abuse.
i somehow convinced myself that was what is best for him, that nobody else knew what they were talking about. and that’s what unmanaged manic bpd does. changes the entire truth or maximise tiny reactions into explosions that destroy everything in its path.
for a decent human being, it’s “i’m so sorry i jumped to an unhealthy conclusion and spiralled into emotional dysregulation because i was upset”. for entitled, unhinged individuals like her, it’s “you think i am wrong? well i guess i have to defend myself by stabbing you with a knife because you deserve it for making me upset”
i’m sorry it’s so long. i just wanted to illustrate very clearly why bpd is a neutral entity, that is either a butter knife or a machine gun depending on the person that has it. not inherently bad, but not harmless either.
This story literally makes me cry whenever I hear it. He was being abused, plain and simple. I feel so bad for him and his family 😢
This is my first time hearing about this case. It's so sad! How I wish he'd left her when he realized he wasn't safe. If he had enough awareness to start recording their interactions, he knew he was in danger. If anyone is in this position, leave. Just leave. It's not worth your life, no matter how much the other person tells you they love you. Be safe out there!
@@xzonia1 well said 💜
You’ve obviously never been abused, it’s easier said than done.
@@cheetahlover156 ? When did I ever say it was easy to leave an abuser? I just wish that he had so he would still be alive today
And it's a Nigerian family at that. Ik they will never let this go... If I was feeling this hatred towards that woman imagine the mother, the father, tsk tsk
THANK YOU for telling people to get an attorney and not let police make you feel bad about asking. The reason we have that right is because innocent people have gone to prison
I don't know how anybody could look at this case and be like "He's not a victim".
he is not
@@ffffff41 nah, he was. Only he stayed in an abusive relationship.
Thay both were abusers
Exactly, I hate it when they say he was abusive too!! NOT TRUE!!! HE has a RIGHT to defend himself!!! SELF DEFENSE from a CRAZY NARCISSISTIC ABUSER!!
This is why he recorded these events!! It's because it's so hard to explain the craziness without being a witness to the insanity!!
Having dated a Nigerian, they’re intensely emotional but not always abusive. They take their traditional masculine role seriously so for her to say to him “you never protect me.” “You were supposed to protect me.” must have hurt somewhere DEEP. That read on him being gaslit into thinking he was the gaslighter was dead on. Black men are already conditioned to see themselves as overly aggressive in the public eye, and self conscious about having to be careful to avoid making that impression. it’s so sad and sickening to see how she exploited that fact to control him. However he said he wanted nothing to do with women like me so 🤷🏾♀️ that’s all the sympathy I can muster for the situation. She showed him who she was and no matter how ugly he couldn’t get enough. Christian loved Courtney to death, the end.
U are dead on 🎯.
As for me I feel the same. It's easy for black people in these types of unequal relationships to feel as if non black people are hateful towards us out of some type of ignorance.
Or that they gravitate towards us for relationships out of some kind of genuine affection. in reality predators know what makes their prey tick psychologically and they enjoy wielding power over them. Like puppet masters. Clenney fits the bill I am so glad that her late bf made the secret recordings because of the insight gained therein it's like being able to peer through a window and see/hear things that Clenney would never have admitted to otherwise had it not been recorded.
I did not know that, but this makes me so sad! Christian is definitely the victim
As someone who’s been in an abusive relationship. As soon as I heard he started recording arguments. I felt so deeply he was a victim. So many times Me and my ex would argue and I’d record it. Mostly because I was afraid if I had to go to the police I needed evidence. But also just a recording so I could listen back and see if I was insane. Of course even abusive ppl will record. But mostly once they get a recording that makes them look good they instantly show it to police, friends, family just to make the s/o being abused feel like they now have no way of speaking out. Because everyone already thinks they’re the abuser. And even when me and my ex would stop fighting. He would confront me for “hitting him”. When it was me trying to get him off. My best example is one time he randomly decided since I was watching tv instead of giving him attention. He was going to take my tv. I got upset and tried to move pass him to plug the tv back in. He then pushed me down and slammed my head on the floor, on top of me. And me trying to push him off. I must’ve lifted his shirt because he got a deep scratch from one of my nails. Instantly even though he was the one to pin me down. He was the one hurting me and shoving my head into the ground. He would go on and say how I hurt him and it was going to leave a scar. He’d show people and they’d look uncomfortable and I’d feel so defeated. Because even with all the videos and audio recordings I’d have. His one scar made me out to be this terrible person. So I never got help. He ended up cheating and honestly it was good for me because he then had to run off to care for his baby mama. I was so excited literally the same day packed all of his thing with care and was so nice just out of fear that upsetting him he’d try to stay. But even then because of that damn scratch I gave him. Whoever he told probably thinks I’m abusive. But because if cases like this where some girl says she was abuse when she clearly was an abuser. Makes people like me feel even more afraid to speak out. So I hope he gets the justice he deserves and his family finds peace once again
Also side note. You can see photos of here the day of his death. Yes she covered in blood so TW before looking. But her neck seems fine. How she describes it. She acts like he was strangling her next so hard she felt he was trying to pass her out or kill her. With that much force but no marks on her body. Yes red marks can go away after. But she would be showing something if he was being that aggressive.
I am so so sorry that you had to go through something like that and I hope you'll be able to find as much peace as you can going forward.
@@smolson8471 thank you so much. I feel like day to day I have definitely moved on. Just sleeping at night I have nightmares that my real life was all a dream and I’m still with him. But once I wake up I’m just more grateful for the life I have now!
I did the same about my recordings. I would record them because I wanted to see if I was actually the crazy one but I wasnt. its so scary being in that spot not knowing because you love them sm that you hope its maybe you so you can try better or harder to love yourself more for them but it isnt that at all.
same when I was in a toxic relationship i started to record to see if i was crazy and acting how he said i was and also for a paper trail if things ever escalated (which they did) i started recording after one fight where he held me down choked me and while trying to push him off so i could breath i accidently elbowed his lip after his lip was inflamed and he started telling people i hit him which i didn't after that i knew i needed evidence
Anyone who doesn’t back this girl 100 percent, I’m so thankful you’ve never been with an emotionally abusive narcissist.
If she doesn’t get arrested, I give up of humanity. This case is just insane, the victim isn’t alive to tell his side of the story. The level of disrespect the victim’s family got from the police/detectives is nothing like I’ve heard before, it’s just enraging.
Same here
i gave up a long time ago due to Casey Anthony :')
This is horrible, it’s obvious that she k!lled him. They were both toxic but he stayed. He stayed through everything. She deserves to be in jail for many many years. You can tell the police and everyone involved did not so there job to help this man. He was a victim and she is the killer. Disgusting
I don’t think anyone is claiming that she didn’t kill him. She did, she admitted to “throwing” the knife at him. (Edit) Which caused his death.
What they are trying to figure out whether she accidentally killed him out of self defense, killed him without pre meditation(in the moment), or planned to kill him.
I agree with you btw! But even the shitty cops and others know she is the one who killed him.
He was an abuser and free loader
@@momochiii100 how exactly?
The cops and court know she killed him but the argument now is was it legally justified. Hopefully, the prosecutors are doing their job cuz heck so many ppl without legal power have already dug into everything and we leave the rest to the jury
@@hafsamohamed3555 he's literally stalking her
You're so animated and such a good story teller. A gem to listen to.
1:13:00 she wanted him close at all times so she could bask in his misery, shes clearly a sociopath and most likely borderline
As someone who has been abused by their significant other, you don't raise your hand to hit back if you fear them. People saying she's the only victim are delusional. If she was so afraid of him she wouldn't openly hit him for fear of what he would do to her behind closed doors. Physical abuse shows who has the power in the abusive dynamic because if they can physically hurt someone they claim to love then they have no control as a person, period.
There are different types of abuse. I'm the same as you but had a gf who's bf would beat the shit out of her but she wasn't afraid to hit him back and I literally told her that scared me more because that's how things escalate!
I agree, as a former DV and SV victim, I can definitely recognise her as THE MONSTER 😢😢😢
@Noodles please remember the recordings, even if he stager the audio ones, the elevator one and her behaviour in public clearly shows she was the abuser/ attacker/ the one that held the power. Destroying him mentally and emotionally, humiliating, gaslighting and belittling him, making him sleep on the floor of the elevator/ in the lobby...she held all the power and took her frustrations on him.
She sounds like a bloke.
@@noodles5004 how’d you know the boy hit her? Because she told you? There have been many cases where the killers the abusers actually would tell family and friends they are abused but it’s the other way around. Do verify
That is so disrespectful, the fact that nobody called the family. It’s a call. It’s not rocket science. This was a person that died, a human. How should the family not be notified? Ugh! What a terrible way to find out about your son, the call about the organs 😢
I'm a woman and men should be legally allowed to fight off any psychotic woman attacking them like this.
Indeed for self defense.
I am pretty sure anyone is allowed to do self defense. Problem is we are much, much stronger, it's pretty easy to over do it, or, faced with a crazed women, hurt her, because she is moving recklessly or is threatening with some sort of weapon. As soon as there are a few scratches or bruises on the woman, she can easily claim he was the one abusing. Also, the problem is if the abused, doesn't have a place to stay, they are renting together or whatever.
I am just thinking of practical reason, that aren't "..but I love her".. for not just straight up leaving the same second the other person becomes violent. If I found my "perfect" lady, beautiful as an angel, with all the character traits I value the most, and her only downside would be random bouts of violence, uff... I don't know, I got a spare bedroom, so I guess, I would be ok living with such a person if I could lock myself during sleeping. I wouldn't be able to sleep, if she might stab me during my rest. But she would need to be perfect, and that just doesn't exist.
@@relight6931well you can just push them away from you… easier said than done I know but creating distance is ideal. And then leaving the scene.
@@HS-ie8tj yeah, but I want kids.. My condition is to find a women to which I am attracted to and vice versa, both physically and mentally. I have my own apartment and after a few months of dating and .asking sure we are on the same page about kids, I would ask her to move in with my. My condition is simple. We need to spend at least two years together, through up and downs, to really get to know each other. I am not repeating my mistake with last girlfriend who could never spend more then night or two.. it turned out she was a pathological liar, and if it wasn't for same female friends we had, and me knowing those friends for much longer, also her stories presenting me in such a cruel light, so much so, that they felt obligated to tell me, I would lose much more then half a year.. she lied flawless, but she was also malicious.. She would break up people..
Also don't want to do what my parents did, I was barely five when they divorced and it was borderline violent.. So either we live two years together, hopefully go through some major turmoil and comeone stronger, or very break up. I am not doing to my kids what my parents ( from best intentions) did to us.. Made me play messenger from 6 to 15 since not even a phone call could pass without shouting or cursing.. I still got scars on my soul from that..
Agreed. Then get the heck away from them cause you’ll end up dead or in jail. Men who are victims of abuse need to speak up more so that other men are aware of the signs and feel supported coming out.
Drugs, alcohol and mental illness… left untreated can be deadly
Regarding the shark thing, I've met a girl once who told me she has such a phobia of sharks that she can't go swim in a lake, river, pool, and sometimes she gets uneasy even in a bathtub. She explained that rationally she knows perfectly well that there is no shark in a pool or a lake, or a bathtub, she's aware of it, but that's not how phobias work, she just cannot go in a pool and enjoy it because she feels so anxious the whole time, it's more of a torture than a pleasure.
i think i’m this girl 🙁
Kinda same with me. With any water (pools, lakes, ponds, etc) I am terrified that there will be a shark or something similar lol.
I know there isn’t. In a pool I can literally SEE no creature is in there, but as soon as I get in my anxiety goes through the roof.
It’s better if the pool is crowded, still have a lil bit of anxiety though haha. And I even looove the feeling of swimming.
Phobias/ irrational fears are strange things indeed.
@@pinkcameo4698 Is your name Giulia? :P
My husband’s ex wife would do this to him. She would hit him even in front of the kids, blow up over EVERYTHING, gaslight, cheat but says he was, and actually had him believing he had a mental illness and he ended up in a psychiatric ward for a week. He had counseling where they opened his eyes to the 13 years of abuse. His ex would record him after she would push him over the edge. She would be calm and “the victim “ because he’s so abusive.
In the year and half my husband and I have been married and have faced extremely stressful life experience back to back…. he’s never once acted how she protrudes him.
I know people react differently in each relationship and my husband isn’t perfect or innocent but this stuff happens to guys more than others realize.
My heart goes to this poor guy and his loved ones. As a former victim of DV and SV, I can recognise all the signs of abuse coming from the gf, who held all the power. Of course he slept in the elevator, since she was paying for the rent and kicked him out. He was a man who told everyone how amazing she was, so i bet he was embarassed to go back to his family with the tail between his legs and admit how horrid she was to him and how badly she treated him for such a long time. I hope his family is at peace and healing and she gets what she deserves for taking away his life 😢😢😢
The way she seems to be so worried about him cheating makes me almost positive that she was the one cheating on him.