Also, DON'T TWIST YOUR STRAPS. As seen on your right-rear wheel. The straps are tested, and rated, in a straight pull. Twisted straps reduces the strength of the strap.
After months of searching youtube, I finally get a perspective of an 8.5w enclosed trailer with f150 standard mirrors...also with use of extensions. Was dreading converting to tow mirrors. Extremely great coverage of the setup!
This is a very good video for the novice as well as the intermediate trailer tower. One part I don't agree on is the method of strapping down your car. Strapping through the tires allows the body to bounce which is very similar to the car driving down the road. This means if you have a car with 20K miles and you tow it 20K miles you have now put 40K miles on the struts and shocks - unnecessary wear and tear on your struts and shocks. If you strap it down at the body you have now eliminated that wear; your body isn't bouncing and your struts and shocks aren't suffering wear. Just my 2 cents. Great video!
I like how much difference there is between towing in murica and europe.... in europe most ppl use like a station wagon with a 2l i4 diesel to pull those kinda weights and at most we use a bus like a mercedes sprinter. Gotta admit that pick ups are a lot more common nowadays but still most ppl tow stuff with simple golfs n stuff
Hehe, yeah, pickup plus a heavy trailer seems a bit overkill for a track day car. My tow car at the moment have a 895cc engine, only tow my small trailer up to 1200kg with it though, works great. Not very merican though :) Europe is a different place, you wouldn't even be allowed to tow that weight on a normal driving license :)
As a truck driver I can't tell you how many times I've seen trailers jacknife and get away from people due to poor vehicle balance. Nice to see you try to inform the public about this
Awesome video as always, but I feel that you left out one important aspect of towing. Tire pressures of the trailer and truck. I would also suggest that you keep maintenance of trailer up to date. Bearings failing with your race car attached is not good.
Thank you so much for making this. I don't tow currently, but as I would like to get into racing down the future, I'll inevitably have to tow at some point, which I know little about. But now, I know more than I previously did 😊 I just hope the Diesel Colorados will drop in price at some point so I can afford one. They're stupid expensive
Best way to judge it with out tech is to look at the tyres and if one is more flat than the other move the weight away from it, you should have both your tyres evenly weighted
Great advice! One more tip- Make sure your trailer is reasonably level! If you are using a tow bar, it needs to be reasonably level too! I almost wrecked my cars because of this. I was pulling my 04 Civic with my 05 Civic, but my tow bar was way lower on my tow car's hitch then on the car I was towing, so it was pushing my tow car all over the road and trying to pick up the back when accelerating. Even worse, I could barely stop because the tow bar was pushing the back of my car down when braking and picking up the front end, so I had no traction to stop. I almost got into an accident when my front wheels locked up when braking and I got pushed into an intersection! Never thought about the angle of the tow bar, but that is certainly a mistake I will never make again! Adjustable hitches exist for a reason folks!
u can cross the straps by useing lower control arms or the rear axle on solid rwd vehicles. cross strapping helps better because if at any chance the trailer ends up going sideways the car wont because the straps are holding car both sideways and forward and reverse movements. also dont twist straps
One more thing to ad, make sure the engine weight is on the side of the tow hook, which means that cars with rear engine or mid mounted engine have to be reversed on the trailer. The reason is: it's easier to control the mass of the trailer in case of snaking
Might have been good to also mention truck payload as that is affected by tongue weight (or if going further, GVWR/GAWR/GCWR). I know current Platinum or Limited F-150's have quite a bit lower limit for payload due to increased content inside the vehicle. 1000lbs of tongue weight will be a large chunk of that, plus anything in the bed, passengers, driver etc so good to keep it lower at 670-725lbs like you did.
Man I’m jealous of your country. In the UK if you passed your test after 1997 you can only tow a maximum train weight of 7700 pounds. That’s truck, trailer and race car! You have to take a test if you want to tow more.
Tell your friend Mark to upgrade from a chain style weight distribution to a trunnion style like an E2 or Equalizer. Much better hitch for sway control.
I’ve towed a 10,000-11,000 pound G23 (depending on ballast and gas), behind my F150 with a regular hitch no issue. Farthest I’ve gone is 5 hours with it, but I’ve really had no need to get a weight distribution tongue tbh. Not sure how much different it is with cars and enclosed trailers.
Not sure about it being preferable to strap by the wheels vs the unsprung axles/control arms vs the sprung chassis itself. So many different opinions out there on that topic.
“need to tow our car” .. I drove my miata to the track some time out of state for 5 years otter 3-5 hours away tracked it for 1-3 hours and then drove it home get the right car don’t over build it and have road side assistance haha . Balling on a budget
I love your system in the USA. I‘m from Germany and I have a manual car(1300€), bike(1600€) and trailer license(500€). I‘m kinda jealous, but at least I know how tow!
Thats not my Point. I meant its funny that some need those Information from TH-cam, bescause you don‘t have to learn that stuff, before you are allowed to tow some serious weight.
That's weird. In the EU tongue weight should be between 50-80 kilos, regardless of trailer weight. We also have to do extra exams / driving to be able to tow anything over 750kg.
We have a ‘12 Pilot in the family and we have had it ever since we bought it brand new and it’s still running strong at over 120k miles This video really helps me out when I am now starting to do a bit of work with the Pilot Thank you guys for this video and keep it going🔥
You wanna know what's hilarious? I just bought a 2006 Nissan Armada SE two days ago so I could tow my Z and Genesis around for track days. Video was right on time gents. lol
Recomendation buy a 2wd 2nd gen ram 96-98 12v Or 01-02 24v 12v is rayed at 13500 lbs 24v is rated at 14000-15000 lbs I get 24-26 mpg hwy with mine and they severly overbuilt it and can handle 18k Pop some rv275 injectors 4 inch straight pipe new air box go cheap bhaf or go expensive s&b) And an edge tuner keep it on an easy 60-120hp tune which will boost ya somewhere round 800 ft lbs all in all Then badda bing badda boom reliable truck with enough power to do anything ya need and decent efficiency and decent reliability Also do a gooseneck hitch\trailer tows better then conveniently Or do the v10 option if you want power and 10mpg because your a wimp who thinks diesels are to smelly and loud for you to own ... 🙃 11k lbs towing
4:27 I’ve been putting the rubber part with teeth on the floor and the part that curved up towards the wheels. I guess I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time
My #1 advice? Learn how to back up your trailer, straight line, near side and blind side. Not every place you will go to will be a pull through. Nothing more annoying seeing someone with expensive trucks, trailers, and cars but can't even back into a space. I'm wrong? Go to a boat ramp during the summer and see how many people can't control their trailer while backing up. It's comical but it's sad.
Damn I’m struggling to save up for a sports car and now I gotta buy a nice truck and a trailer and all that extra stuff to make sure I’m doing it all safe... what do you guys do for a living??
So....I substract the tongue weight from my car's carrying capacity and thats how much I can load IN my car? Besides the towing capacity is how much I can pull besides the carrying capacity?
depending on your vehicle on the door should be a sticker stating a GVW or gross vehicle weight. that usually is the max you can haul with that vehicle.
Me: someone who tows nothing
“Gears and gas has a new video out about towing, can’t wait to watch”
Sweet now I only need a race car... and a truck oh and a trailer 🙃
r3ktfahdle Nah, what you need is Advanced Auto Parts
All you need is money
Instruction unclear, Burnt my clutch out on my Miata trying to tow the F150 :C
lol...you were supposed to put the F150 ON TOP of the trailer, then tow
Also, DON'T TWIST YOUR STRAPS. As seen on your right-rear wheel.
The straps are tested, and rated, in a straight pull. Twisted straps reduces the strength of the strap.
Agreed as shown by this video th-cam.com/video/SgUWRiv1ucM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ifyJjQXOttE/w-d-xo.html Doesn't matter at all
Wow this is pretty overwhelming to someone who’s never towed anything! Very informative and well laid out.
to make life easier to drive like your reverse gear is out.
Really interesting as I was kind of afraid of towing just due to my lack of knowledge. But thank you
Same but we need one for our cars lols.
Before any of this, learn how to drive with a trailer and back one up
This is true!
Yes! Most definitely. I rented a uhaul car transport just to practice for a day. It was kinda hard honestly.
@@foford2010 So smart though
After months of searching youtube, I finally get a perspective of an 8.5w enclosed trailer with f150 standard mirrors...also with use of extensions. Was dreading converting to tow mirrors.
Extremely great coverage of the setup!
Me: Doesn't have a trailer or truck, pauses the soccer to watch Gears and Gasoline's new video
You guys are the reason me and my friend started an automotive YT channel! Love from from Texas!
This is a very good video for the novice as well as the intermediate trailer tower. One part I don't agree on is the method of strapping down your car. Strapping through the tires allows the body to bounce which is very similar to the car driving down the road. This means if you have a car with 20K miles and you tow it 20K miles you have now put 40K miles on the struts and shocks - unnecessary wear and tear on your struts and shocks. If you strap it down at the body you have now eliminated that wear; your body isn't bouncing and your struts and shocks aren't suffering wear. Just my 2 cents. Great video!
I like how much difference there is between towing in murica and europe.... in europe most ppl use like a station wagon with a 2l i4 diesel to pull those kinda weights and at most we use a bus like a mercedes sprinter.
Gotta admit that pick ups are a lot more common nowadays but still most ppl tow stuff with simple golfs n stuff
They just want them to buy trucks.
Hehe, yeah, pickup plus a heavy trailer seems a bit overkill for a track day car. My tow car at the moment have a 895cc engine, only tow my small trailer up to 1200kg with it though, works great. Not very merican though :) Europe is a different place, you wouldn't even be allowed to tow that weight on a normal driving license :)
@@garagecedric tho European semis tow more than us ones ;)
As a truck driver I can't tell you how many times I've seen trailers jacknife and get away from people due to poor vehicle balance. Nice to see you try to inform the public about this
I needed this
That was best Advance Auto commercial I’ve ever seen. No sarcasm intended.
Awesome video as always, but I feel that you left out one important aspect of towing. Tire pressures of the trailer and truck. I would also suggest that you keep maintenance of trailer up to date. Bearings failing with your race car attached is not good.
That evo is pure beauty
Honestly the best Car orientated TH-cam Channel.
Thank you so much for making this. I don't tow currently, but as I would like to get into racing down the future, I'll inevitably have to tow at some point, which I know little about. But now, I know more than I previously did 😊
I just hope the Diesel Colorados will drop in price at some point so I can afford one. They're stupid expensive
Really learned a lot from this video thank you guys very much!
Now I’m ready to do some work with my ‘12 Pilot
Best way to judge it with out tech is to look at the tyres and if one is more flat than the other move the weight away from it, you should have both your tyres evenly weighted
Out of all the vids iv seen today this was the most informative. I was starting to think i need to have a duly
Great advice! One more tip- Make sure your trailer is reasonably level! If you are using a tow bar, it needs to be reasonably level too! I almost wrecked my cars because of this. I was pulling my 04 Civic with my 05 Civic, but my tow bar was way lower on my tow car's hitch then on the car I was towing, so it was pushing my tow car all over the road and trying to pick up the back when accelerating. Even worse, I could barely stop because the tow bar was pushing the back of my car down when braking and picking up the front end, so I had no traction to stop. I almost got into an accident when my front wheels locked up when braking and I got pushed into an intersection! Never thought about the angle of the tow bar, but that is certainly a mistake I will never make again! Adjustable hitches exist for a reason folks!
I never knew I needed this video. Very insightful!
Air springs are worth consideration. Expensive but it's useful to have onboard air... would make a cool install for the platinum.
This is one of the best videos yet.
Very Informative and easily understood. THX
Best thing I ever did to my tow vehicle was lowering it. Virtually eliminated all sway.
ShockerHitch - Some people love it for hauling, good quality product
Does Advance Auto Parts also carry Evo IX's?
You could probably build one out of parts?
That was a really good informative video guys 👍👍
u can cross the straps by useing lower control arms or the rear axle on solid rwd vehicles. cross strapping helps better because if at any chance the trailer ends up going sideways the car wont because the straps are holding car both sideways and forward and reverse movements. also dont twist straps
One more thing to ad, make sure the engine weight is on the side of the tow hook, which means that cars with rear engine or mid mounted engine have to be reversed on the trailer. The reason is: it's easier to control the mass of the trailer in case of snaking
Great informative video!! Thanks for sharing and keep up the awesome work guys!!
Great quality of video! Thanks for sharing ! ❤️👌🏻👍🏻
Might have been good to also mention truck payload as that is affected by tongue weight (or if going further, GVWR/GAWR/GCWR). I know current Platinum or Limited F-150's have quite a bit lower limit for payload due to increased content inside the vehicle. 1000lbs of tongue weight will be a large chunk of that, plus anything in the bed, passengers, driver etc so good to keep it lower at 670-725lbs like you did.
Really good video. Thanks for all the information.
Man I’m jealous of your country. In the UK if you passed your test after 1997 you can only tow a maximum train weight of 7700 pounds. That’s truck, trailer and race car! You have to take a test if you want to tow more.
First time tongue weight has made sense to me. Thanks!
Love y’alls videos!
This was helpful and still enjoyable.
Tell your friend Mark to upgrade from a chain style weight distribution to a trunnion style like an E2 or Equalizer. Much better hitch for sway control.
Very informative. Thanks for the video!
I would suggest also to play with your toy hauler in an empty parking lot. Backing up can be quite a challenge really
I’ve towed a 10,000-11,000 pound G23 (depending on ballast and gas), behind my F150 with a regular hitch no issue. Farthest I’ve gone is 5 hours with it, but I’ve really had no need to get a weight distribution tongue tbh. Not sure how much different it is with cars and enclosed trailers.
Gear and gasoline : new towing video
Me : yeah!! .. also me : imma just get a flat bed truck
Great video as usual
Not sure about it being preferable to strap by the wheels vs the unsprung axles/control arms vs the sprung chassis itself. So many different opinions out there on that topic.
I've never owned a race car, I don't even own a truck but somehow I enjoyed this video
Thanks gears and gasoline!
“need to tow our car” .. I drove my miata to the track some time out of state for 5 years otter 3-5 hours away tracked it for 1-3 hours and then drove it home get the right car don’t over build it and have road side assistance haha . Balling on a budget
i guess it's an option when you don't have other options...but when you do longer track days or 2 day weekends something is bound to break
Great work ty
I bought a 7.3 ford excursion to tow my future racecars
I really want a Ford Raptor but it can't tow what we need. Thank you so much for this video!!!
This is helpful and all but there is a problem
I don’t have a race car
Nice way of presenting 😊
thank you!
Does the intro song remind anyone else of a version of Me and You by Cassie? It's been driving me nuts for hours lol. Great information lol
I love your system in the USA. I‘m from Germany and I have a manual car(1300€), bike(1600€) and trailer license(500€). I‘m kinda jealous, but at least I know how tow!
Nothing in this video is relevant in Europe. We have very different laws and different trailers.
Thats not my Point. I meant its funny that some need those Information from TH-cam, bescause you don‘t have to learn that stuff, before you are allowed to tow some serious weight.
That's weird. In the EU tongue weight should be between 50-80 kilos, regardless of trailer weight. We also have to do extra exams / driving to be able to tow anything over 750kg.
Should include using quality engine & transmission fluids - for the towing F150 and the racing car.
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Good information!
Needed this for future reference.👍
Weigh safe hitch ftw
We have a ‘12 Pilot in the family and we have had it ever since we bought it brand new and it’s still running strong at over 120k miles
This video really helps me out when I am now starting to do a bit of work with the Pilot
Thank you guys for this video and keep it going🔥
You wanna know what's hilarious? I just bought a 2006 Nissan Armada SE two days ago so I could tow my Z and Genesis around for track days. Video was right on time gents. lol
Cars can tow, it's just in America they want you to buy a truck.
@@alexstromberg7696 Oh I know, But I also plan on taking some people with me too. lol
Recomendation buy a 2wd 2nd gen ram
96-98 12v
Or
01-02 24v
12v is rayed at 13500 lbs
24v is rated at 14000-15000 lbs
I get 24-26 mpg hwy with mine and they severly overbuilt it and can handle 18k
Pop some rv275 injectors 4 inch straight pipe new air box go cheap bhaf or go expensive s&b)
And an edge tuner keep it on an easy 60-120hp tune which will boost ya somewhere round 800 ft lbs all in all
Then badda bing badda boom reliable truck with enough power to do anything ya need and decent efficiency and decent reliability
Also do a gooseneck hitch\trailer tows better then conveniently
Or do the v10 option if you want power and 10mpg because your a wimp who thinks diesels are to smelly and loud for you to own ... 🙃
11k lbs towing
4:27 I’ve been putting the rubber part with teeth on the floor and the part that curved up towards the wheels. I guess I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time
What’s in the bed, containers w/ nozzle things ?
never thought to check the tongue weight like that.. gonna need a bigger scale
and I work on trailers at work all the time lol
lol and here i am wanting to know if my 2019 fwd Hyundai santa fe xl can tow my e30.
maybe on a tow dolly...but it's a stretch
What are those LBS ?
Kilogramms are better
Future show idea. K20C1 swap into ZX2.
Was this filmed at Liberty?
what about more from the aftermarket series?
My #1 advice? Learn how to back up your trailer, straight line, near side and blind side. Not every place you will go to will be a pull through. Nothing more annoying seeing someone with expensive trucks, trailers, and cars but can't even back into a space. I'm wrong? Go to a boat ramp during the summer and see how many people can't control their trailer while backing up. It's comical but it's sad.
Do you still have this truck? Give us an update
Awww fuck I thought this was ganna be about what tools and how to set up your enclosed trailer
Damn I’m struggling to save up for a sports car and now I gotta buy a nice truck and a trailer and all that extra stuff to make sure I’m doing it all safe... what do you guys do for a living??
Let's say if you wanted to tow a Fiero what vehicle recommended?
What licence do you need to tow a trailer?
4:26 Nice
that's summit point
Great video but I want to see the K-swap Civic Type R!
So....I substract the tongue weight from my car's carrying capacity and thats how much I can load IN my car? Besides the towing capacity is how much I can pull besides the carrying capacity?
depending on your vehicle on the door should be a sticker stating a GVW or gross vehicle weight. that usually is the max you can haul with that vehicle.
is his camera guy the same person(s) every video or each video has a different camera person?
I think it's dope that Advance Auto sponsors them so much, but I will never buy parts from them ever.
Ironically, I was watching Donut Media Frenemies Ep3 when this notification popped up. I died laughing
Just as I started looking for a tow vehicle lol
Can I buy racecar from AdvanceAutoParts
And always always have a brake control!
First thought was, this will be useful for the next time we have to yank a $500 shitbox out of a ditch and back home!
Don't worry about it, I play euro truck simulator 2 a lot
You need to measure under the ball, not the jack
Y'all leveled up huh...
Good video. Tongue weight is extremely important. Too little and you will never forget how fast it will scare the hell out of you.
"As a car entusiast that can only go to the track i have to tow my cars because they are not road legal"
It's funny how the truck ends up costing more than the car it's self
Just put the car center of the tires an u will be just fine