Yeah I love Donut but the artificial market hype the trend of top 10 lists on the internet creates in any market is a menace on enthusiasts of anything. A few years back when I started getting in to wristwatches I almost bought a vintage Seiko 6138-3002 'Jumbo' chronograph for less than 150$USD in my local currency which at the time was an average price in facebook groups and whatnot. A couple years of some fucking dorks with youtube channels yapping about how the 6138 and 6139 movements are God's Greatest Gifts to earth or whatever and the cheapest Jumbo starts at 700$ USD. I really wish I bought that fucking watch when I had the chance cuz Im not going to pay that kind of money for a Seiko no matter how much I like them. Similarly, I really wish I had the chance to buy certain cars which are no longer reasonably priced.
Overhyping the same 10 cars for years isnt doing any good. People should open their eyes, there is so many different and in many cases better cars than the ones you see in every video.
the prices go up because now, finally, the generation that was growing up on fast and furious, need for speed and a bunch other icon stuff, finally can afford it and it reminds them of their childhood and it becomes something priceless to them all
Everyones all about the 90s nostalgia now, But I still remember some cool shit from the 2000s. There were in fact cool cars from the 2000s that are still attainable. But their time isn't here yet. Oh yeah, Good luck on getting a cheap, Stock SRT4 lol. Let alone a cheap modified one. I havent seen a stock one since at least 09.
Yea that company also works with other shops to build the car to customer specifications as well. I think the insane price comes with the cars originality however. I mean I’m currently watching a series where the guys concourse restoring a Cooper s and he’s paying £30 for ONE clip so his sun visor can clip into place😂
@@fritzbautista5933 Not in the U.S. once a car that is not in compliance with the emission law is 25 years old, then it is exempt from that law and can be legally imported. I own an R33.
@@Nighthawk_r33 Emission laws are 20 years in the US. It's the NHTSA safety regulations that get an exemption after 25 years - or if it's a US domestic model, because the NHTSA's safety regulations are actually only applied to imports in order to protect dealerships in the US from "scary wrong bad" competition.
@@RobertMilat dont forget the camry, shares a ton with the celica and mr2, im building one now, even with no power and gutted to a crazy amount is a ton of fun. $350 well spent. Got big plans for it down the road.
In my humble opinion, you don't need an enthusiastic cars to be recognised as car enthusiasts. As long you enthusiastic about your cars whatever it is, you ARE an car enthusiasts.
Truer words haven't been said. Some people prefer odd and uncommom cars, not neceseraly rare and expensive, but for example old saabs. Those are great and really interesting cars, with heaps of tech used, not really found on other cars and most people can't say for sure are they fwd or rdw cars, or any other details, so it great :D
Iv met all types of Car Enthusiasts From Ferrari to Fiat, whatever floats your boats and makes you happy do it. My cars is not everybodies Cup of tea but I tell ya what when I park and walk off I can't help but look back in admiration even when I start it in the morning I'll walk around and admire it for a second or 2.
For reference to the “tax” see 426 hemi parts. A “hemi block” is $14000 CAD w/o a rotating assembly. Any mopar parts are expensive, but hemi stuff is wild.
Well a large chunk of the Hemi taxes buyer base is about to go over the demographic cliff here in the near future. So I doubt it will stay as high as it is.
@@joshuakhaos4451 and then I can finally get me a 526 hemi lol fr though hemis will be alot cheaper than rotaries sooner or later, so big sad moment lol
The thing about the classic muscle car market is that the prices are meant for the 1%'ers who hoard all the cars and parts in a hangar and never drive anything the own. Barrett Jackson exists for a reason.
iv never understood the sneaker culture or this stupid shit they talked about in the video. i get if you have a couple from projects or old cars holding onto them but this shit, and stuff like barret jackson can all burn in hell
I've been hearing a lot about sneakers from browsing about scalped computer parts prices Never really been in the sneakers world, I wear TNF all day long, but from what I've heard it's pretty horrible over there
@@0Heeroyuy01 the sneaker culture and car culture is pretty much the exact same in terms of complaints, which models get overhyped, manual vs auto in the sneaker world to me would probably be OGs vs Retros. People buy up sneakers and put em in a storage, like cars. People take decade old shoes and restore em, just like cars. Sneaker meet ups are always available, entry level is pretty low bc all you need is the passion and knowledge
@@rogehmarbi Jordan’s were supposed to be affordable and people were supposed to be able to get them. Now there’s people out there with programs that add as many shoes to the cart as possible and then turn around and sell the shoes for five times retail. In all reality sneakers for most is just a form of expression just like car culture.
Its the resale/pre owned market in general. Whether its Supreme clothing or S-Chassis parts, its all about how much supply exists and how much people are willing to pay in the moment to procure them.
I like how the guy who openly stated that he is buying up whatever remaining Supras he can also complains about how wrong it is to do the same thing with rare parts...
Yeah that made no sense to me. I'd never sell a Supra to a Supra collector, I'd rather more people enjoyed them than one single person hoarding up such rare cars.
But at least he drives and buys them bc he enjoys the cars, not hoarding/scalping with the sole intention of reselling for an insane price - which was his complaint against parts hoarders
when even the NA miata got expensive af, I lost a bit of the love I had for cars cause the symbol of the inexpensive sports car just shattered and the dream just became a bit more unattainable
I'm in the same boat. Air-cooled VWs, specifically bugs, were always obtainable to someone who was willing to put in a little time and savings for one. $5k for anything pre-1970 was often the most you'd pay, anything after was usually $3-4k. The barriers to entry were incredibly low, the only real barrier being that you'd almost certainly have to learn how to do at least basic maintenance in order to keep it running. Everyone who was willing to be dedicated was welcome to the air-cooled world. Today that is no longer so. Bugs are usually 10k for anything that runs or isn't completely rusted out. Buses are $20k for rusted wrecks and a running pre '68 bus starts at $30k and goes up from there. This was mostly due to wealthy types coming in and buying up or bidding up the cars that came up for sale, televised/streaming auctions also didn't help. People started demaning 7x more than what they were asking before for something because they saw something at Mecum go for $85K. Now when I encounter a nice air-cooled, I don't want to meet the owner. You can spot the cars that have been owned by the same person for years, and those people are usually worth talking to, but if it's something (overly) nice I just pass it by. I hate the fact that the car I bought for $3k six years ago is now worth $16k because someone like me is never going to be able to allowed entry to the air-cooled world ever again. The car for the masses is now only for the elite.
@@ocallaghan3865 It's probably due to what car class it's considered in Britain. Insurance is probably really high for an RX7 there. That alone would eliminate a lot of prospective buyers lowering it's value due to lower demand.
3D Printed or manufacture remade OEM Plastics and such (like what we're seeing with the miata now and mazda remaking parts) cannot get here fast enough imo
@@lynnmckenney1987 you can do it now at a fairly cheap price you would just need to print it into multiple pieces. There is a steep learning curve to do it though but it is very possible. I’m doing this with Subarus right now
The smart money in the collector car market would be on pivoting toward conservation - digitize literally everything, so that parts can be re-manufactured in the future with advanced production techniques. It might not do much now, but one day, when we have true carbon-neutral fuel, we'll be able to bring back a lot of cars and car parts that otherwise would have been lost to time.
@@gearheadlydia Problem with digitizing everything for profit is that eventually someone else is going to do what you did and post it for free. And unlike with creative works you can't fall back on copyright to protect your business.
I used to have a clean NA Miata that I bought with a rubber band and some lint in my pocket. That was two years ago. Now I can't find a working one for less than 6k :(
Just commented this lol in 2015 I brought a 94 miata black with tan interior Jackson racing intake and exhaust racing wheels for 3k my buddy had a m edition he picked up for around 4500. Now a clapped miata is 9k LOL
U can thank media's such as Instagram n Tik tok for that they not only turned the car community toxic they also are sky rocketing the prices for undercover cars that are insanely fun to drive some being crown Vicks, Mazda 6speed hatch, lucky me my dream car is under the cover and I hope it stays there for pure enthusiasts to grab a hold of n not ego boosters
One of those sad things because younger enthusiasts as myself might not be able to enjoy the joys found in cars like these due to how much longer we'd have to wait before we can think on driving or working to save up for our over inflated dream cars.
With the S-Chassis getting to point of unattainable status G35/G37 and 350/370z are starting to get to this point and I’m seeing the prices for good condition ones rise a bit. I jumped on the 370 train before it leaves the station I know it’ll come to a point the G/Z platform will get expensive eventually as well.
Dang, that sticks :( Imagine people in the early 90’s who sold their e30 m3’s for 10-15k just to see them skyrocket in price a few years later... wait, that’s pretty much exactly what happened to you. Sorry dude
It's funny you say that I saw an EVO 3 in Canada the guy was willing to sell it in Washington and it was four grand USD it was beat to crap I seen it a month or two ago for 14 Grand just zip tied together you know kind of cleaned up but wow
We have so many of the early evos here in sweden, they were mostly built for street/dragracing. What would be a realistic amount for a legit nice Evo 3 and GC8 STI Type-R v5 in canada atm? I dont see much love for them online. But the evo 1-3 was produced in only 5000 examples each. Thats in total as many early evos as there are R34 GTRs.
In Canada, we can import cars not sold here after 15 years - the US is 25. You could get a nice Skyline GTR32 for around $10k back in the mid to late 2000s. As soon as they became legal in the states their prices doubled overnight. Dealers then wised up here and began hoarding R34s just to sell 'em to Americans for insane prices when they became legal.
RIP Lexus SC platform. Was relatively unknown 5 years ago, now all the drifters have raped them. All this pump-and-dump of over hype towards 20 year old JDM cars have pushed me to the path of the 2 wheeled variety.
Just remember, someone doesn't want it for a reason. Being a poor platform or a lack of aftermarket parts. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy the car, but you'll sure pay a pretty penny for one off components.
Pretty much. The days of fun cars as most everyone knew it is coming to a close. After that, no matter what it is, it'll be the wealthy controlling and exchanging the last of the dwindling resources of functional examples of any given model.
One thing I randomly think about is when cars reach 'near extinction' for lack of a better term. At some point, the number of S-chassis that people are simply preserving for enjoyment will outnumber the number of people who are building them simply to drift them.
I like how I'm sitting here editing my own work but I drop everything when Gears and Gasoline uploads. Haha! That's respecting the game. Excellent video, guys, and great point as well.
Thank you for these type of videos.. as someone who is thinking about buying a youngster, this is somewhat of a wakeup call. Everyone on youtube is hyping cars, only showing the glamorous life. Only a few are actually talking about the cost of ownership, and the hardship involved. Thanks for your honesty and a different, more sustainable view on the car culture. Thanks guys.
You missed one of the biggest reasons. Kids who grew up with these on their walls in their bedrooms are now cashed up enough to be able to start paying for them and affording them. Just like the generations before us who pay 6 figures for an old family car at an auction like a Plymouth or dodge etc. The demand is out there and the supply is limited but people are willing to throw everything at it to have their childhood dream cars
I want to make a factory that makes replica cars but are all out of carbon fiber and extremely light and powerful. If that happens in about 10 years, that's me. I've also calculated that those cars will be like 1200 lbs. I will also put Free valve techology on the engine and make insane n/a power.
I would love to help you with that. These replica cars can also have tube chassis that can make the car stiffer and be able to hold a lot more power without flexing. There can also be kits that have different engine mount options so the person that buys the kit can put whatever engine they want into it. A tube chassis, what ever engine you want and a carbon body? What more could you want?
It's whats kinda driven me from wanting to own cars like these. For the longest time I've wanted fds/supras/skylines, I grew up in the 90s. However......I DRIVE my cars and i drive them hard and I am just not willing to dump that much money into something that I will beat the hell out of. My garage right now has an IS300 for speed, an MR2 spyder for fun and an outback for DD. I love Ryan but he himself admitted that "thats why I'm trying to buy these cars" when talking about them rising in price because of lack of availability. Parts hoarding is the same thing, on a lower scale. At the end of the day, everyone is just looking to make money, some just like the cars themselves more than others. I have an IS300 and every single time I have to pay the supra tax on parts for my $5000 shitbox. Its just the way we roll.
@@SummonerArthur thx, I used to own it, deff was one of the rarest sights on the road, sold it for a toyota starlet and a vw beetle, but I kinda crave the van because the space is just so handy and it's rare to see something like it
That’s awesome. You can watch a lot of first gen Impreza stuff on my channel 👍🏼 I own the blue one in this video and a coupe as well.... I think I need a wagon lol
Yea but he also said he's trying to buy them up which might have been phrasing but I don't agree with the need to have multiple of the same car especially rare ones
I mean I get a his and hers type thing but then that and a this one is rare color and this one is my Wednesday car and this one is whatever excuse..it's just a slippery slope
A great video that we definitely needed at this time where tuning and car culture has started shifting into more of a money game then it ever has before, especially in Australia where I live!
8:23 THIS. I see so many BIG car youtubers just yeeting out the parts they swap out. Parts that are usually rare where I live so its good to see them on ebay or something.
I sold my 97 Silvia back in 2012 for $10,000. It was immaculate with tasteful mods. I recently saw the same car in worse condition for near $40,000. I cried.
Very true. Demand has gone through the roof. The 25 year rule in the US has meant alot of Japanese 90's imports have been exported from Australia. They're now much more expensive here as a result. Getrag V160's in Supra's and Skyline R34 GTR's are now really really expensive.
Bought my FC RX7 in 2012 for $800 & my boy bought an S13 240sx for $700 in 2010. $300 for a civic eg hatch in 2009. No way we'll ever see those prices again for even a shell.
New cars are insane money, and don’t provide the same emotional response as 80/90s stuff. People that grew up in that era now have money, and are scooping up cars they wanted as kids. Which drives the whole market up. This has been happening for ages.
This is why whenever I get new parts for my NA miata, I continue to save all my old parts. I give them to friends that NEED parts they cannot get ahold of. I help people out in the community when the need things. It's as easy as making a small area in your closet to store all the small plastics, and small parts like mirrors and interior bits.
@@1fastford795 boring? clearly you have never driven a Porsche, Mercedes or Ferrari or Lambo. They have WAAAYYYYYY more power than the r34 out of the box. The interior of the r34 is boring, you haven't been in an r34 gtr interior have you kid? You're a 12. year old fanboy of course, the only car you think is exciting is the r34 gtr. Trust me, it's not, you have to spend thousands on it to make it faster, they don't come with 1000hp from factory, a stock amg gtr will destroy it.
In 2003 I bought a 5spd, super clean S13 hatch for $1,200. It had good paint, tiny rust hole by the third brake light on the hatch but I fixed it. No dents, good interior. Those days are long gone. I built it up to a decent 380hp track car. But I wish I would’ve kept the interior and kept it streetable. I remember gutting it and throwing away and giving away good parts. (I was 18 and dumb) . I miss that car so much.
In 2019 I parted out a few of my chassis’s. I sold everything I had for normal prices. Nothing went over $100. I ran into more issues with guys who made a living parting cars than I did with people trying to buy my parts. Guys would do anything they could to block the sale of my items. I got banned from several jdm groups and pretty much outcast because I was not willing to gouge people on prices. I ran a pages called garage less racing where we sold all our parts for cheap. The issue with these cars is super simple. Folks are trying to earn a living by controlling a relatively worthless market. People make videos trying to boost the appeal of rotten, old, slow, unreliable, and generally unmaintained cars. Cars are meant to be used and tensile steel strength can degrade over time. So I’ll be selling all my cars for decent prices and I’ll move onto a newer chassis.
Great video! This is the reality, civic Eg vti here even if is beaten to death will cost you at least 4K euros with more than 200k km. CRXs are going crazy high here too, at minimum 5500 (beaten and abused). People don’t want new sports cars, everyone wants an old sports car. (Not everyone but you get the point haha)
What’s your IG? I agree I bought an old logo Nismo intercooler about 5 years ago for less than a G, now they’re over 4 Gs if you can find one. I love my car but damn haha!
@@jlopez0710 No IG for me surprisingly lol. But yeah I know exactly what you mean man. I wanted LMGT2’s and about died laughing when I saw some for $10k being considered a ‘good deal’. Anything old logo Nismo is somehow considered made by God lol.
Not related to the topic, but scalpers always exist wherever and any industry, not just graphic cards and cool cars. Cool film and loved every minute. Probably the best info-tainment video so far!
So we’re not going to mention how unimaginative the car community is when it comes to cars? Decades upon decades of cars and we end up with the same cars that everyone wants. It’s just fashion and people following trends creating their own little bubble.
Restored my old Nissan S13 200SX back in 2007. Swapped a lot of OEM parts, and stored the old for now. 2014. I moved, and thought. Hey, I have had these parts laying around for years now. Throw it all out, and 7yrs later, watching this. I'm currently working on my 200sx again, to get it street ready. Prices have tripled since I bought it in 2007.
Makes me sad, I've had quite a few S chassis over the years (as well as miatas, bmw's and other great enthusiast cars) and now that I can afford to build my dream one, I can't afford to buy one, or justify the high prices lol
This is the exact reason I love 80's-90's American sports cars like the firebird. Shares many similarities with imports like flip up headlights and they are cheap for amazing performance.
I mean you’re admittedly part of the problem. You’re not helping the enthusiast community and only make the things we want less accessible. Are we supposed to thank you?
@@PureFunction fair enough man guess that's the importance of full context haha you have three in the video and say you want to buy them up so apologies. Hopefully you can see how that sounds to maybe someone who doesn't know you
I've owned GTR, Supra, 2 WRX's, and an RX7 FD amongst a line up of Euro's. I see the enthusiasm from those that have not lived with old cars, but I can also see why they are up for sale in the first place from current owners. Sometimes the best thing is to see it drive away after countless hours of hard work. Once you've had your fun. You realize a modern Euro sports car is an all rounder without the hassle.
I agree with the supra guy. Buying stuff for yourself is one thing but buying up stuff for the sole purpose of jacking up the price is scum. Those are the people who bought up all the tp and hand sanitizer at the start of the pandemic.
“Why are enthusiast cars so expensive” Shows guy with three Supras. You’re joking right? Three? Not saying there is anything wrong with owning three examples but there is a spot on reason why.
As a S14 owner the last guy in the video forgot to mention that Japan is also taking advantage of people. Perfect example the SR20 engine that I bought was expensive $3800. The shop that I bought the engine from, the owner help me out because in Southern Cali those TAXES. 6 months later the same engine right now 3/1/2021 its now $ 4700 and the Notch SR20 is going for $6500 to $7500 depends were you get it. The demand for these engines are going up because of this trend Originality. Their a lot of people that want a 240sx but don't want other people's projects. If people that built 240sx with originality (Engine either KA24 or SR20) or very simple Mods (Body kit, Custom Headlights, Rims, and Clean Interior) those 240sx are going to be expensive. They also forgot to mention that Top Rank Importers (Bringing JDM Cars Legal) and others Importers are also driving the prices up for these cars too. In Top Rank website as of today (3/1/2021) they have a 240sx for $27995 that really expensive. So its not just individuals driving up the prices it's also companies = JDM engine suppliers, Importers, and 3rd parties(Parts Guys).
I'm honestly still dissapointed that mazda didn't bring the herritage program to the FB/SA 1st gen RX-7. I'm stuck with second hand parts. That being said the FB and FC basically share the same chassis, so I can make alot of FC stuff work on my FB
its honestly to the point where i cant get anything that i like without shelling out a load of cash. like lets take the supra. on BaT they sell for around 60-80k when i could get a manual v10 Audi R8 for the same price with 5000 miles.
This is pretty great I’m glad we talking about this as a Miata guy we should be helping with parts if you find good deals tell your homies and whatever extra you have give them away keep them rotating
Yea all these youtubers using the cash their channels generates to scoop up project cars and jack up prices for the rest of us. But at least you made a video about it. Which will give you more revenue. To keep doing what you’re doing and price us out of what used to be affordable cars. How meta.
@@kidcody1359 nice, I'm sure you paid quite a bit for it. You can usually try to re adjust the seals or use shin etsu grease to expand the seals because they get dry and shrink from the sun
Wild how true this is. When i built my first drift car i listed a PERFECT s13 black interior for free in 2009? It sat for a month and eventually went to the dumpster.
I bought my 2014 Focus ST as the second owner for just under 13k about 5 years ago, now people are paying almost 19-20k for them with way more miles then when I got mine.
As far as ford's go.......the Fiesta ST is darn near the tippy top of fun, ford actually did something right......still can't build a pickup to save they're lives tho.
@@robbalinski1606 what? Ford has been making the best American pick ups for 100+ years? I’m not a Ford fan but you can’t disprove the fact they make the best trucks.
You're videos are so damn good. Something as simple as explaining supply and demand, you've somehow turned into a really well edited informational video
I was looking into the market price for a 240Z once and found them at a minimum of 10K (in my region), then next year I was checking in again and they went for a minimum of the double (and it keeps climbing). I've since changed my mind about that being my 'dream car' when I can get a _much_ nicer retro 400Z (Z Proto) at probably the same price or cheaper than a good 240Z when I can afford it.
When I was in my late teens and early twenties (when F&F first dropped in theaters) young adults my age couldn’t afford 20-30 yr old sports cars, or any sports car for that matter. I’m not sure why this generation of young wanna-be tuners thinks they deserve affordable classics and cheap parts for them. Buy a cheap car, learn how to fix it, have fun with it and make your own generation of classics.
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"Why are enthusiast cars so expensive?" Casually looking over to TH-cam top 10 cheapest enthusiast cars lists. I'm looking at you Donut Media.
Same thing with Ideal Media too. don't get me wrong love the car TH-cam channels and some social media kinda ruin the price for them.
Yeah I love Donut but the artificial market hype the trend of top 10 lists on the internet creates in any market is a menace on enthusiasts of anything.
A few years back when I started getting in to wristwatches I almost bought a vintage Seiko 6138-3002 'Jumbo' chronograph for less than 150$USD in my local currency which at the time was an average price in facebook groups and whatnot. A couple years of some fucking dorks with youtube channels yapping about how the 6138 and 6139 movements are God's Greatest Gifts to earth or whatever and the cheapest Jumbo starts at 700$ USD. I really wish I bought that fucking watch when I had the chance cuz Im not going to pay that kind of money for a Seiko no matter how much I like them. Similarly, I really wish I had the chance to buy certain cars which are no longer reasonably priced.
Overhyping the same 10 cars for years isnt doing any good. People should open their eyes, there is so many different and in many cases better cars than the ones you see in every video.
@@martinbernath that and also engine too. Heck 2jz-gte are getting ridiculous.
ADAM FUCKING LZ
the prices go up because now, finally, the generation that was growing up on fast and furious, need for speed and a bunch other icon stuff, finally can afford it and it reminds them of their childhood and it becomes something priceless to them all
Everyones all about the 90s nostalgia now, But I still remember some cool shit from the 2000s. There were in fact cool cars from the 2000s that are still attainable. But their time isn't here yet.
Oh yeah, Good luck on getting a cheap, Stock SRT4 lol. Let alone a cheap modified one. I havent seen a stock one since at least 09.
@@joshuakhaos4451 give it 10 years and stock SRt4s will sell for $25k if not already
@@joshuakhaos4451 i seen some starting at 4k on offerup
Thanks to initial d
Yep just like my dad's niche on 50's and 60's hotrods
Haven’t even watched the vid yet...but the answer is supply and demand.
Nah bro there’s a magical tax that is applied to cool cars by the car gods just to f*ck with us
I agree. Supply and demand is there is to it.
They KNOW people will pay to own one.
Well yeah, supply and demand make up every single price basically, except for non- mass produced goods
literally came here to write this hahaha
I used to be into 240’s. Now I’m into is300’s for the past bunch of years and they are starting to skyrocket now too
Luke has chills level of narration but a voice that doesn't sound like a cheese grater to the eardrum
Just as bad with classic cars from the 60’s as well. Never would of thought a mk 1 Austin mini could push £35.000
Especially when there's a company with the original sheet metal stamps making brand new 60's shells......
Yea that company also works with other shops to build the car to customer specifications as well. I think the insane price comes with the cars originality however. I mean I’m currently watching a series where the guys concourse restoring a Cooper s and he’s paying £30 for ONE clip so his sun visor can clip into place😂
Only for a cooper S, my brother had one, it's insane.
If you want really rare though, good luck finding singer gazelles, triumph italias and sunbeam rapier.
yeah but it's a cooper s, other normal ones even if really clean never go above 15k, atleast where i am
Me as an old car enthusiast living in a country with strict import laws: "First time?"
Ey Im crying on this comment because you can only import it as parts
Singapore moment
@@sushilolpee7894 yup relate too much to that
@@fritzbautista5933 Not in the U.S. once a car that is not in compliance with the emission law is 25 years old, then it is exempt from that law and can be legally imported. I own an R33.
@@Nighthawk_r33
Emission laws are 20 years in the US. It's the NHTSA safety regulations that get an exemption after 25 years - or if it's a US domestic model, because the NHTSA's safety regulations are actually only applied to imports in order to protect dealerships in the US from "scary wrong bad" competition.
this is why i stopped liking "enthusiasts cars" and found my niche in 1980s\90s econoboxes.
Yup, 30 year old shitboxes are the best ;)
The answer to all of this is Civc
@@RobertMilat I thought the answer is always Miata? Jk jk
@@RobertMilat dont forget the camry, shares a ton with the celica and mr2, im building one now, even with no power and gutted to a crazy amount is a ton of fun. $350 well spent. Got big plans for it down the road.
E30’s are clean - but good luck finding one for a decent price or condition
TH-camrs can be to blame for this as well (as well as supply and demand)
hit the nail on the head there!
In my humble opinion, you don't need an enthusiastic cars to be recognised as car enthusiasts. As long you enthusiastic about your cars whatever it is, you ARE an car enthusiasts.
Truer words haven't been said. Some people prefer odd and uncommom cars, not neceseraly rare and expensive, but for example old saabs. Those are great and really interesting cars, with heaps of tech used, not really found on other cars and most people can't say for sure are they fwd or rdw cars, or any other details, so it great :D
Iv met all types of Car Enthusiasts From Ferrari to Fiat, whatever floats your boats and makes you happy do it.
My cars is not everybodies Cup of tea but I tell ya what when I park and walk off I can't help but look back in admiration even when I start it in the morning I'll walk around and admire it for a second or 2.
Fully agree, but these models bring a lot of street cred and fame, and lots of people want to be worshipped for them, hence the demand.
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For reference to the “tax” see 426 hemi parts. A “hemi block” is $14000 CAD w/o a rotating assembly. Any mopar parts are expensive, but hemi stuff is wild.
"It's spherical!" - Josh Nichols
Well a large chunk of the Hemi taxes buyer base is about to go over the demographic cliff here in the near future. So I doubt it will stay as high as it is.
@@joshuakhaos4451 and then I can finally get me a 526 hemi lol fr though hemis will be alot cheaper than rotaries sooner or later, so big sad moment lol
Mopar tax has always been a thing and goes across the board with dodge. Learned that with first gen neons.
The thing about the classic muscle car market is that the prices are meant for the 1%'ers who hoard all the cars and parts in a hangar and never drive anything the own. Barrett Jackson exists for a reason.
My man literally explaining the sneaker culture to a tea
iv never understood the sneaker culture or this stupid shit they talked about in the video.
i get if you have a couple from projects or old cars holding onto them but this shit, and stuff like barret jackson can all burn in hell
I've been hearing a lot about sneakers from browsing about scalped computer parts prices
Never really been in the sneakers world, I wear TNF all day long, but from what I've heard it's pretty horrible over there
@@0Heeroyuy01 the sneaker culture and car culture is pretty much the exact same in terms of complaints, which models get overhyped, manual vs auto in the sneaker world to me would probably be OGs vs Retros.
People buy up sneakers and put em in a storage, like cars. People take decade old shoes and restore em, just like cars. Sneaker meet ups are always available, entry level is pretty low bc all you need is the passion and knowledge
@@rogehmarbi Jordan’s were supposed to be affordable and people were supposed to be able to get them. Now there’s people out there with programs that add as many shoes to the cart as possible and then turn around and sell the shoes for five times retail. In all reality sneakers for most is just a form of expression just like car culture.
Its the resale/pre owned market in general. Whether its Supreme clothing or S-Chassis parts, its all about how much supply exists and how much people are willing to pay in the moment to procure them.
I like how the guy who openly stated that he is buying up whatever remaining Supras he can also complains about how wrong it is to do the same thing with rare parts...
Yeah. Wtf does he need 3 supras for
Yeah that made no sense to me. I'd never sell a Supra to a Supra collector, I'd rather more people enjoyed them than one single person hoarding up such rare cars.
@@spaghetti941 Lol pat attention to the video he only has 2 one is his other is his wife’s and red one is his friend. Watch his YT pure function
But at least he drives and buys them bc he enjoys the cars, not hoarding/scalping with the sole intention of reselling for an insane price - which was his complaint against parts hoarders
"Why are enthusiast cars so expensive?"
Haha $500 Volvo go brrrrr
That's literally any Volvo with the exception of the 04-07 S60R's and V70R's, and also the 850R's
@@adrianpolinski9600 Dont forget the few S80 V8's. Although I think they're too modern to gain any sort of value, but they're still expensive.
glad my $450 shitbox was included haha
haha my volvo 850 t5r go broom broom
Any kei car hatchback
"Don't hoard parts for money" meanwhile having multiple Supra's in the background
Foreal, he's part of the fucking problem, talking about needing parts but has 3 supras that needs parts!
Exactly
Tbf ones his car, ones his wifes and he’s rebuilding an old wrecked one as well. He’s using the cars
If he is using them, it is not hoarding.
@@AlphaAce15 He's driving all three at once? Superhuman!
Welcome Luke! Great first impression. Can't wait to see more content like this.
when even the NA miata got expensive af, I lost a bit of the love I had for cars cause the symbol of the inexpensive sports car just shattered and the dream just became a bit more unattainable
Yeah I had two and I won’t pay today’s prices so moved on to something else.
Why do you want a NA? Just get a NB or a NC.
Yeah, sadly i lost my love for jdm cars and started liking old and modern American cars because at least you can afford them.
@@kylesoler4139 pop up man, love pop up
I'm in the same boat. Air-cooled VWs, specifically bugs, were always obtainable to someone who was willing to put in a little time and savings for one. $5k for anything pre-1970 was often the most you'd pay, anything after was usually $3-4k. The barriers to entry were incredibly low, the only real barrier being that you'd almost certainly have to learn how to do at least basic maintenance in order to keep it running. Everyone who was willing to be dedicated was welcome to the air-cooled world. Today that is no longer so. Bugs are usually 10k for anything that runs or isn't completely rusted out. Buses are $20k for rusted wrecks and a running pre '68 bus starts at $30k and goes up from there. This was mostly due to wealthy types coming in and buying up or bidding up the cars that came up for sale, televised/streaming auctions also didn't help. People started demaning 7x more than what they were asking before for something because they saw something at Mecum go for $85K. Now when I encounter a nice air-cooled, I don't want to meet the owner. You can spot the cars that have been owned by the same person for years, and those people are usually worth talking to, but if it's something (overly) nice I just pass it by. I hate the fact that the car I bought for $3k six years ago is now worth $16k because someone like me is never going to be able to allowed entry to the air-cooled world ever again. The car for the masses is now only for the elite.
Loving the energy Luke gives off, hope we see him in videos more often.
Throw in the Honda s2000 and Lexus ISF. Prices are out the roof!
Currently the Rx7s that america of course can't get yet in britian are 20K
@@ocallaghan3865 It's probably due to what car class it's considered in Britain. Insurance is probably really high for an RX7 there. That alone would eliminate a lot of prospective buyers lowering it's value due to lower demand.
3-D printer owners in the future : “ stonks📈”
3D Printed or manufacture remade OEM Plastics and such (like what we're seeing with the miata now and mazda remaking parts) cannot get here fast enough imo
That's what I keep wondering, when can I just print my own door card instead of hunting junkyards for months and paying exorbitant fees?
@@lynnmckenney1987 you can do it now at a fairly cheap price you would just need to print it into multiple pieces. There is a steep learning curve to do it though but it is very possible. I’m doing this with Subarus right now
The smart money in the collector car market would be on pivoting toward conservation - digitize literally everything, so that parts can be re-manufactured in the future with advanced production techniques. It might not do much now, but one day, when we have true carbon-neutral fuel, we'll be able to bring back a lot of cars and car parts that otherwise would have been lost to time.
@@gearheadlydia
Problem with digitizing everything for profit is that eventually someone else is going to do what you did and post it for free. And unlike with creative works you can't fall back on copyright to protect your business.
Let's remember that japanese manufacturers are starting to produce parts for their cult classics
They need to reproduce parts for S chassis, though most of them can’t afford it and complain about prices
I think only nissan is doing this dough.
Toyota made parts for a70 supra, mostly plastic and moldings.
@@amauri_dleon7726 mazda as well
honda has just started doing some parts for the beat again..
I used to have a clean NA Miata that I bought with a rubber band and some lint in my pocket. That was two years ago. Now I can't find a working one for less than 6k :(
Just commented this lol in 2015 I brought a 94 miata black with tan interior Jackson racing intake and exhaust racing wheels for 3k my buddy had a m edition he picked up for around 4500. Now a clapped miata is 9k LOL
U can thank media's such as Instagram n Tik tok for that they not only turned the car community toxic they also are sky rocketing the prices for undercover cars that are insanely fun to drive some being crown Vicks, Mazda 6speed hatch, lucky me my dream car is under the cover and I hope it stays there for pure enthusiasts to grab a hold of n not ego boosters
@@emerandu better hope some youtuber doesn’t get it and milk it dry for content
@@MADLITS1K I don't mind them making content out of it just don't ruin it for everyone else By giving it clout
My dad got a nb for like 400 sure it was auto but it worked and we have had it for three years
This isn't limited to JDM vehicles. It's all about supply and demand.
Like even shitty non running E30’s cost like 2 to 3 grand
Still remember leaving a note on a 240sx I seen in a apt parking lot, owner called me back and I drove it home for $600 in 2014. Completely stock.
I almost had a chance at getting an AE86 Levin for 2 grand in my neighborhood. Only reason I didn't get it was cause I had nowhere to store it.
@@Trussme96 For 2 grand I'd fucking drove into my bedroom. I'd park it on the grass and cover it with my own body, to shield it from rain and snow.
@@Trussme96 your garage or driveway no?
@@shirool1142 i was parking my one car in my sister's visitors parking cause I had no where else to stay at the time.
Lollll
It's even worse outside of the US, where everything car related is dirt cheap.
Here in germany you must be a millionaire to own a V8
people in germany are very lucky though
@@shirool1142 To live yes ,but not as a car Guy.
In Brazil you must be rich just to afford an 8 valve 4 cylinder sports car 😅😅
One of those sad things because younger enthusiasts as myself might not be able to enjoy the joys found in cars like these due to how much longer we'd have to wait before we can think on driving or working to save up for our over inflated dream cars.
This guy sounds like he's giving a high school presentation
My math teacher bought a ‘93 Supra many years ago for 5 grand. After a new engine, paint, wheels, body kit, and 20+ years, he sold it for 50k.
LHD supras never went below 5K unless they were smoking trash heaps
@@fariskajevic7925 it was in pretty rough shape
Great investment!
With the S-Chassis getting to point of unattainable status G35/G37 and 350/370z are starting to get to this point and I’m seeing the prices for good condition ones rise a bit. I jumped on the 370 train before it leaves the station I know it’ll come to a point the G/Z platform will get expensive eventually as well.
5:56 that self-realisation cracked me up xD
It’s crazy man, the cost of this stuff is nuts!
"To a kid like me" *Pats car* made me grin so big.
Sold my evo IV for 5k cad now the same car is worth 40k
Initial d tax
Dang, that sticks :( Imagine people in the early 90’s who sold their e30 m3’s for 10-15k just to see them skyrocket in price a few years later... wait, that’s pretty much exactly what happened to you. Sorry dude
It's funny you say that I saw an EVO 3 in Canada the guy was willing to sell it in Washington and it was four grand USD it was beat to crap I seen it a month or two ago for 14 Grand just zip tied together you know kind of cleaned up but wow
We have so many of the early evos here in sweden, they were mostly built for street/dragracing. What would be a realistic amount for a legit nice Evo 3 and GC8 STI Type-R v5 in canada atm? I dont see much love for them online. But the evo 1-3 was produced in only 5000 examples each. Thats in total as many early evos as there are R34 GTRs.
In Canada, we can import cars not sold here after 15 years - the US is 25. You could get a nice Skyline GTR32 for around $10k back in the mid to late 2000s. As soon as they became legal in the states their prices doubled overnight. Dealers then wised up here and began hoarding R34s just to sell 'em to Americans for insane prices when they became legal.
And because of this video. Everything just went up about 5% is price.
That's why you buy the shit no one else wants. It's not like you are going to be a better man with an A80 Supra anyway.
RIP Lexus SC platform. Was relatively unknown 5 years ago, now all the drifters have raped them. All this pump-and-dump of over hype towards 20 year old JDM cars have pushed me to the path of the 2 wheeled variety.
Just remember, someone doesn't want it for a reason. Being a poor platform or a lack of aftermarket parts. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy the car, but you'll sure pay a pretty penny for one off components.
Has anyone else noticed that the prices of all 80s and 90s BMWs have gone up solely because of E30 prices?
a lot of people are settling for anything similar to the e30, and now everyone selling in the used market is catching on
It's only going to get worse, since today's cars are nearly all automatics.
Luckily they still make brand new dogboxes
Pretty much. The days of fun cars as most everyone knew it is coming to a close. After that, no matter what it is, it'll be the wealthy controlling and exchanging the last of the dwindling resources of functional examples of any given model.
Most European cars are manual.
One thing I randomly think about is when cars reach 'near extinction' for lack of a better term. At some point, the number of S-chassis that people are simply preserving for enjoyment will outnumber the number of people who are building them simply to drift them.
I like how I'm sitting here editing my own work but I drop everything when Gears and Gasoline uploads. Haha! That's respecting the game. Excellent video, guys, and great point as well.
Thank you for these type of videos.. as someone who is thinking about buying a youngster, this is somewhat of a wakeup call. Everyone on youtube is hyping cars, only showing the glamorous life. Only a few are actually talking about the cost of ownership, and the hardship involved. Thanks for your honesty and a different, more sustainable view on the car culture. Thanks guys.
You missed one of the biggest reasons. Kids who grew up with these on their walls in their bedrooms are now cashed up enough to be able to start paying for them and affording them. Just like the generations before us who pay 6 figures for an old family car at an auction like a Plymouth or dodge etc. The demand is out there and the supply is limited but people are willing to throw everything at it to have their childhood dream cars
And you are exactly right sir. The kids from the 80s and 90s are grown and got money.
@@khdaniely really? aren't most of them in a TON of debt.
This is one of the main reasons I’m keeping my em2. Even though there are so many, I can see older civics doing the exact same thing.
I want to make a factory that makes replica cars but are all out of carbon fiber and extremely light and powerful. If that happens in about 10 years, that's me.
I've also calculated that those cars will be like 1200 lbs. I will also put Free valve techology on the engine and make insane n/a power.
People already do that
Do you realize how expensive making a carbon fiber car from scratch would be
I would love to help you with that. These replica cars can also have tube chassis that can make the car stiffer and be able to hold a lot more power without flexing. There can also be kits that have different engine mount options so the person that buys the kit can put whatever engine they want into it. A tube chassis, what ever engine you want and a carbon body? What more could you want?
@@Anirossa dude im only 14 dont shit on me
@@Bungarungagungaboo yeah, but my dream will be to make every thing from scratch (even brand New engines with magnesium blocks or something)
It's whats kinda driven me from wanting to own cars like these. For the longest time I've wanted fds/supras/skylines, I grew up in the 90s. However......I DRIVE my cars and i drive them hard and I am just not willing to dump that much money into something that I will beat the hell out of. My garage right now has an IS300 for speed, an MR2 spyder for fun and an outback for DD.
I love Ryan but he himself admitted that "thats why I'm trying to buy these cars" when talking about them rising in price because of lack of availability. Parts hoarding is the same thing, on a lower scale. At the end of the day, everyone is just looking to make money, some just like the cars themselves more than others. I have an IS300 and every single time I have to pay the supra tax on parts for my $5000 shitbox. Its just the way we roll.
I bet, your car costs much more if sold by parts.
@@witw972 hahahahaah for sure!
I like luke. Deff wouldn't mind seeing him more on the channel. Good job
#noHomo
Is that van yours? Nice patina!
@@SummonerArthur thx, I used to own it, deff was one of the rarest sights on the road, sold it for a toyota starlet and a vw beetle, but I kinda crave the van because the space is just so handy and it's rare to see something like it
I bought a 97 impreza wagon for about 650 usd and I feel so far it was a reasonable purchase. As soon it's done I can start driving legally.
That’s awesome. You can watch a lot of first gen Impreza stuff on my channel 👍🏼
I own the blue one in this video and a coupe as well.... I think I need a wagon lol
Dude has no respect for part hoarders, yet buys 3 supras
was searching for this comment xD
I thought this too but there is a good counterpoint, he's actually using them and not just garaging them
Yea but he also said he's trying to buy them up which might have been phrasing but I don't agree with the need to have multiple of the same car especially rare ones
I mean I get a his and hers type thing but then that and a this one is rare color and this one is my Wednesday car and this one is whatever excuse..it's just a slippery slope
it's not like he needs the parts either, he's talking about himself
A great video that we definitely needed at this time where tuning and car culture has started shifting into more of a money game then it ever has before, especially in Australia where I live!
8:23 THIS. I see so many BIG car youtubers just yeeting out the parts they swap out. Parts that are usually rare where I live so its good to see them on ebay or something.
I sold my 97 Silvia back in 2012 for $10,000. It was immaculate with tasteful mods. I recently saw the same car in worse condition for near $40,000. I cried.
I feel you. I sold both of my SR hatches over the years for $6500-$7k.
"Enthusiasts" mean a hidden tax you need to pay
Very true. Demand has gone through the roof. The 25 year rule in the US has meant alot of Japanese 90's imports have been exported from Australia. They're now much more expensive here as a result.
Getrag V160's in Supra's and Skyline R34 GTR's are now really really expensive.
80s/90s car: *is rwd*
idiots who think that makes it worth $35k: allow me to introduce myself
Spot. On.
What we need are some companies making new parts for old cars. from car enthusiasts to car enthusiasts.. I`d donate for this undoubtedly
Pretty ironic that the aftermarket made these cars famous, but OEM parts are now the most valuable.
Bought my FC RX7 in 2012 for $800 & my boy bought an S13 240sx for $700 in 2010. $300 for a civic eg hatch in 2009. No way we'll ever see those prices again for even a shell.
Supra tax is crazy right now. I’ve never felt more anxiety driving than now.
I don’t even drive and I feel you, if someone even bumps you that’s $1,000s for a small ding
New cars are insane money, and don’t provide the same emotional response as 80/90s stuff. People that grew up in that era now have money, and are scooping up cars they wanted as kids. Which drives the whole market up.
This has been happening for ages.
At this point, new cars are becoming more realistic, unfortunately.
So, it's scalpers all over again, there I go to modify my really common car
This is why whenever I get new parts for my NA miata, I continue to save all my old parts. I give them to friends that NEED parts they cannot get ahold of. I help people out in the community when the need things. It's as easy as making a small area in your closet to store all the small plastics, and small parts like mirrors and interior bits.
For the price bracket of a BNR34 I would rather have an F12, 991 GT3 RS, AMG GTR, or LP610-4
@@1fastford795 boring? clearly you have never driven a Porsche, Mercedes or Ferrari or Lambo. They have WAAAYYYYYY more power than the r34 out of the box. The interior of the r34 is boring, you haven't been in an r34 gtr interior have you kid? You're a 12. year old fanboy of course, the only car you think is exciting is the r34 gtr. Trust me, it's not, you have to spend thousands on it to make it faster, they don't come with 1000hp from factory, a stock amg gtr will destroy it.
@@1fastford795 You can get a BMW m2 for cheaper than the GTR or even an r35 gtr for cheaper, both cars are better than the r34.
In 2003 I bought a 5spd, super clean S13 hatch for $1,200. It had good paint, tiny rust hole by the third brake light on the hatch but I fixed it. No dents, good interior. Those days are long gone. I built it up to a decent 380hp track car. But I wish I would’ve kept the interior and kept it streetable. I remember gutting it and throwing away and giving away good parts. (I was 18 and dumb) . I miss that car so much.
“Drift tax” doesn’t mention Ae86. Some beat up Corolla from 35 years ago running for 20-28k.
He definitely said "Old Corolla" when talking about drift tax.
Oh, the AE86 suffers from more than just drift tax. Those carry the dreaded Takumi Tax.
In 2019 I parted out a few of my chassis’s. I sold everything I had for normal prices. Nothing went over $100. I ran into more issues with guys who made a living parting cars than I did with people trying to buy my parts. Guys would do anything they could to block the sale of my items. I got banned from several jdm groups and pretty much outcast because I was not willing to gouge people on prices. I ran a pages called garage less racing where we sold all our parts for cheap. The issue with these cars is super simple. Folks are trying to earn a living by controlling a relatively worthless market. People make videos trying to boost the appeal of rotten, old, slow, unreliable, and generally unmaintained cars. Cars are meant to be used and tensile steel strength can degrade over time. So I’ll be selling all my cars for decent prices and I’ll move onto a newer chassis.
It’s ridiculous how much cars cost , I was looking on eBay and found a ae86 lenvin hatch with rust and it was 15 000
Used cars have been heavily overpriced for a while now.
Soon it'll be cheaper to reproduce the cars in your basement.
Great video! This is the reality, civic Eg vti here even if is beaten to death will cost you at least 4K euros with more than 200k km. CRXs are going crazy high here too, at minimum 5500 (beaten and abused). People don’t want new sports cars, everyone wants an old sports car. (Not everyone but you get the point haha)
Honda head hear saying the tax on civic and integra's are right up thier on the taxation without representation aspect its crazy
This video is spot on, any honda part now from the golden era is ridiculous now. And itr swap used to go for 4500 now going close to 8000.
Skykine’s have to be the worst (read: most expensive) examples. My R32 GTR has taken everything from me (6 figures total) lol, I want to cry.
What’s your IG? I agree I bought an old logo Nismo intercooler about 5 years ago for less than a G, now they’re over 4 Gs if you can find one. I love my car but damn haha!
@@jlopez0710 No IG for me surprisingly lol. But yeah I know exactly what you mean man. I wanted LMGT2’s and about died laughing when I saw some for $10k being considered a ‘good deal’.
Anything old logo Nismo is somehow considered made by God lol.
fuck in Canada I turned down a R32 GTR for 2k 10 years ago! The U.S. market opening up for the desirable JDM imports did that.
@@robbalinski1606 100% this. I didn't have the money back then when a real nice R32 was like $10k :(
Not related to the topic, but scalpers always exist wherever and any industry, not just graphic cards and cool cars. Cool film and loved every minute. Probably the best info-tainment video so far!
So we’re not going to mention how unimaginative the car community is when it comes to cars? Decades upon decades of cars and we end up with the same cars that everyone wants. It’s just fashion and people following trends creating their own little bubble.
for real, its like when you buy a car there are certain rules you need to do. makes them look cookie cutter despite people complaining about it.
Restored my old Nissan S13 200SX back in 2007. Swapped a lot of OEM parts, and stored the old for now.
2014. I moved, and thought. Hey, I have had these parts laying around for years now. Throw it all out, and 7yrs later, watching this.
I'm currently working on my 200sx again, to get it street ready.
Prices have tripled since I bought it in 2007.
Makes me sad, I've had quite a few S chassis over the years (as well as miatas, bmw's and other great enthusiast cars) and now that I can afford to build my dream one, I can't afford to buy one, or justify the high prices lol
That's what I've been trying to avoid with DSM's, I've been hoarding them for the time I can't afford them anymore. Got 6+ and counting! lol
This is the exact reason I love 80's-90's American sports cars like the firebird. Shares many similarities with imports like flip up headlights and they are cheap for amazing performance.
Thank you for allowing me to be part of this, and also anyone wanna sell me another MK4 Supra? I’m trying to be a billionaire 🤣😂
respect for your knowledge!
Not to be rude but aren't you adding to the problem you said you were against?
@@walterharris6191 SARCASM brother, I have two one for me and my wife and that’s all I’ll ever have
I mean you’re admittedly part of the problem. You’re not helping the enthusiast community and only make the things we want less accessible. Are we supposed to thank you?
@@PureFunction fair enough man guess that's the importance of full context haha you have three in the video and say you want to buy them up so apologies. Hopefully you can see how that sounds to maybe someone who doesn't know you
I've owned GTR, Supra, 2 WRX's, and an RX7 FD amongst a line up of Euro's. I see the enthusiasm from those that have not lived with old cars, but I can also see why they are up for sale in the first place from current owners. Sometimes the best thing is to see it drive away after countless hours of hard work. Once you've had your fun. You realize a modern Euro sports car is an all rounder without the hassle.
shhhhh keep euro underrated.
"And thats just the US!"
Where else did they sell camaros?
I agree with the supra guy. Buying stuff for yourself is one thing but buying up stuff for the sole purpose of jacking up the price is scum. Those are the people who bought up all the tp and hand sanitizer at the start of the pandemic.
“Why are enthusiast cars so expensive” Shows guy with three Supras. You’re joking right? Three? Not saying there is anything wrong with owning three examples but there is a spot on reason why.
I was just thinking about this the other day when i saw a bronco that didn’t run for $15k, luke killed it in his first video though, great job
because just like the Firearms community we are our own worst enemy with supply and demand.
As a S14 owner the last guy in the video forgot to mention that Japan is also taking advantage of people. Perfect example the SR20 engine that I bought was expensive $3800. The shop that I bought the engine from, the owner help me out because in Southern Cali those TAXES. 6 months later the same engine right now 3/1/2021 its now $ 4700 and the Notch SR20 is going for $6500 to $7500 depends were you get it. The demand for these engines are going up because of this trend Originality. Their a lot of people that want a 240sx but don't want other people's projects. If people that built 240sx with originality (Engine either KA24 or SR20) or very simple Mods (Body kit, Custom Headlights, Rims, and Clean Interior) those 240sx are going to be expensive. They also forgot to mention that Top Rank Importers (Bringing JDM Cars Legal) and others Importers are also driving the prices up for these cars too. In Top Rank website as of today (3/1/2021) they have a 240sx for $27995 that really expensive. So its not just individuals driving up the prices it's also companies = JDM engine suppliers, Importers, and 3rd parties(Parts Guys).
im not ready for the miata to be the next 240 in terms of pricing
it's already happening, at least where i live a miata in decent shape is going for about 6k+ without a hard top.
@@TRageQuit fuck miata's have been going for 6k+ in canada for 10 years already. Yank land is still home of the cheap cars.
What sucks is that just when we have the money to buy these cars at their non-inflated prices, they become damn expensive.
I'm honestly still dissapointed that mazda didn't bring the herritage program to the FB/SA 1st gen RX-7. I'm stuck with second hand parts. That being said the FB and FC basically share the same chassis, so I can make alot of FC stuff work on my FB
Gears & Gasoline has some of the best production quality I have ever seen out of a youtube channel
its honestly to the point where i cant get anything that i like without shelling out a load of cash. like lets take the supra. on BaT they sell for around 60-80k when i could get a manual v10 Audi R8 for the same price with 5000 miles.
then shell out an extra 10k for repairs cause german car.
This is pretty great I’m glad we talking about this as a Miata guy we should be helping with parts if you find good deals tell your homies and whatever extra you have give them away keep them rotating
Yea all these youtubers using the cash their channels generates to scoop up project cars and jack up prices for the rest of us. But at least you made a video about it. Which will give you more revenue. To keep doing what you’re doing and price us out of what used to be affordable cars. How meta.
It's almost as if we mocked boomers for their buy habits, Yet we millenials and Gen Z are no different in the end.
Wow! I wish I still had all 4 of my MR2's and my EVO 9. I would make bank on BAT!
lol telling people not to buy a limited car they want cause the price is too high. there's always someone willing to pay. supply and demand
I laughed at this too. If you want something, do better, don't be broke.
So glad I grabbed my e36 m3 and my 240sx when I did. I would never have a chance at affording them otherwise.
I can totally relate, just bought a s2000 two weeks ago and had to spend 240$ for some oem floor mats. lmfao
Honda is supposedly going to start making s2000 parts again. Crossing my fingers they will start making OEM hardtops.
@@Balo657 mine already has a carbon hardtop
@@kidcody1359 those are nice too but the fitment and nice headliner the oem hardtop had is so good. What year is your s2000?
@@Balo657 2001, 55k. yeah everytime i wash it water shoots through.
@@kidcody1359 nice, I'm sure you paid quite a bit for it. You can usually try to re adjust the seals or use shin etsu grease to expand the seals because they get dry and shrink from the sun
Wild how true this is. When i built my first drift car i listed a PERFECT s13 black interior for free in 2009? It sat for a month and eventually went to the dumpster.
2019 fiesta st only comes In standard 6 speed I have an enthusiast car and it was only 22k fully loaded mine is new when I got it
I'm thinking of getting one. Any advice?
I bought my 2014 Focus ST as the second owner for just under 13k about 5 years ago, now people are paying almost 19-20k for them with way more miles then when I got mine.
As far as ford's go.......the Fiesta ST is darn near the tippy top of fun, ford actually did something right......still can't build a pickup to save they're lives tho.
@@robbalinski1606 what? Ford has been making the best American pick ups for 100+ years? I’m not a Ford fan but you can’t disprove the fact they make the best trucks.
a fiesta st is a hotted up grocery-getter hatchback with slightly more power.
You're videos are so damn good. Something as simple as explaining supply and demand, you've somehow turned into a really well edited informational video
me wanting a clean decent mileage evo 9 for less than 25k fml
$25k? *I can’t even find one UNDER $32K!*
Y'all gotta check the Strictly Evo and DSM page. They're alot of them under 25k there
@@ThatMaximaKid what website is that?
@@3.0TMKreaZ it's a group in facebook
25k is literally the bottom for EVO 8s and 9s regardless of mileage and condition. Its weird.
I was looking into the market price for a 240Z once and found them at a minimum of 10K (in my region), then next year I was checking in again and they went for a minimum of the double (and it keeps climbing). I've since changed my mind about that being my 'dream car' when I can get a _much_ nicer retro 400Z (Z Proto) at probably the same price or cheaper than a good 240Z when I can afford it.
When I was in my late teens and early twenties (when F&F first dropped in theaters) young adults my age couldn’t afford 20-30 yr old sports cars, or any sports car for that matter. I’m not sure why this generation of young wanna-be tuners thinks they deserve affordable classics and cheap parts for them. Buy a cheap car, learn how to fix it, have fun with it and make your own generation of classics.
I knew, there's always good messages that Gears & Gasoline brings, that's why I think it's worth to watch!
No need to watch 9 minutes and 17 seconds...
1 sentence: Supply & demand
I dont know if its safe to say or not, but this channel has become not only the channel that we carguys want but also what we need .