They’re not happy lol. They want to trick us into signing up for jobs and things that’ll only benefit them and screw us over.... no way jose. Thank god for TH-cam and reddit lol
I agree with David Pike, and this goes for ANY of the Armed Services....be willing to wait to get the job YOU want. Do not settle. Most people who cave in and just take what's available end up being miserable, and get out. All the officer stuff is something else altogether. But I will say about that, the service you're in will look at your evals, and recommendations from your CO. Does anyone actually think they will do an outstanding job in a field they hate??? Most humans, don't work like that. Get the job you want, the one you're interested in and will work hard at.....it will show to the folks who write your evals. Then, when you are ready to become an officer there will be some substance to your request.
Hey man, I was in your shoes a few months ago... After MEPS my recruiter told me the same bad news... that I only had one job on my list that was available, which was a crew chief job (mechanic) and I was super bummed out. So I told her straight up that I'm not doing a job that I don't really want. So she told me to wait a month, and I ended up getting my first pick! Which was RPA Sensor Operator as well. Now it's reserved and I ship out November 14th! Moral of the story, stick it out until you get the job you want. I lucked out by only having to wait a month to get it. Don't let them trick you with that officer shit... that's 4 years of your life.
Hey! I just wanted to say this video was super helpful as I started looking into how to get a job in the Air Force and so thank you for posting it and keeping it up! I hope you're well, from one wingman to another.
Ever heard “patience is a virtue”, your doing the right thing by waiting. Some things aren’t meant to be. Don’t settle for something you don’t really want. Good luck young man, wish you well.
WeAre Sisters if u watch a vid about security forces and that person says it’s horrible and u believe that ur not smart enough for the air force and u should go marines
I enjoyed listing to you. In 1973 I went in under guaranteed enlistment. Air Force. They don't have that now BUT, I waited over a year for ATC. At the time I was working on my pilots' license, I did NOT MIND waiting. Jump to now. Two sons enlisted after 9-11. One military intel., the other E.O.D.. As a mom, I stressed college before you enlist. They didn't of course..... Our EOD son is still in, LOVES it and will retire in 5 more years. They put him in a really cool commercial for recruiting recently. I wish I knew what you ended up doing, I hope it's waiting and school!! The boys found that where ever they were, there was never a great time or they were in a bad place, to be going to school. You can knock out generals but a good degree ie. engineering will not be so easily had. In fact, it's not possible due to work ect.. Mr. EOD has been all over the world, even if it was just passing through with an overnight. As for recruiters. They are your friendly guy, but they NEED to fill the slots they have, even if they have to lie to do it! We are electrical contractors also. And you ARE TOO SMART for security!!! And for you people reading this, construction is hurting SO BAD for young people. Electrical & plumbing will be taught for FREE and you are FREE to live a normal life able to travel where ever YOU want to go! The stories I could tell about electricians wiring stuff in Iraq!!! People literally be killed in the showers.
lmao same I was confused cause I was expecting to get it just like how everyone explained how they ended up with it and then I guess I’m the outlier of many
Word to the wise if u go security forces try to go into the 820th or pararescue out of basic. If you can swim 100 laps back and forth without stopping, run 2 mile in 8 mins I believe, you can try out. Otherwise you will be guarding nukes in a wsa. Or waiving cars in the base, or god forbid arrest the same kids every week for stealing from the bx and since daddy is a E5 you under orders to call your flight sgt so they can call his bitchmade father or Karen mother to get the shitbag. Only good part about being seurity forces you can put officers on the ground. DONT COMFUSE YOUR RANK WITH MY AUTHORITY HALT TURN AWAY FROM THE SOUND OF MY VOICE. YEP IN 1999 That's what it was. I always loved the Air Force But hated the way they did things. We had to watch other drill instructors fold a rag at the edge of a bunk bed. They each had a 30 minute presentation to do it and where in competition with each other for some drill instructor hat crap. 35 push ups, 50 situps, 2 mile run in 25 minutes, alot of us walked it. Airforce best food, pretty women, and no pt. Just go into the Army... AIRPOWER SPACE POWER AEF
Tyler Chasse security forces was my number 1 choice until I took the ASVAB and got a 92 and now it’s not even on my top10. If you qualify for other jobs then you should take those opportunities and run with it, unless you REALLY wanna do security forces I would say rethink your decision. There’s a reason you only need a 36 to qualify for SF
I'm currently a college instructor teaching math and computer science, and I'm strongly considering security forces actually. My whole point of wanting to change my career and join the military is to receive weapons and combat training. Though I agree securing the base for 11 hours a day would be boring, getting a technical or office position would defeat the purpose of why I want to join the military. I'm tired of tech and desk jobs.
I was told by the recruiter that you put down 5 jobs at meps, and if they select you, and it’s for one of those other 4 jobs u put down and not your number one job u listed first , there’s no turning back, and there’s no second chance to do the process again, no second chance to appear before another board, if u decline, it’s pretty much over , u get no more chances to be an officer since u declined selection into the airforce, and that no recruiter will ever work with you after that
I got a 79 score in my asvab and i want to do security forces. There's nothing wrong with that. I plan on going into the OSI after my first couple years in...hopefully.
@@luciferiandread2709 security forces tech school was fun! Currently stationed as Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It was challenging at times but that was the mist fun I've had. Its good to leave your house and see whats out in the world!
Air Traffic Control, or Weather. These are the two best jobs. I was a weather guy for 20 years, and then another 15 as a civilian. I have a sweet pension, 400K in the bank, and a beautiful home on a lake, and I am completely retired. Get a job that has HIGH value in the civilian community.
Your a lucky man, unfortunately I did not get a qualifying score for loadmaster otherwise that would of been one of my top 3 picks in a heart beat. You are going to get to travel and wear a flight suit like the pilots. I hope you enjoy your job, and good luck at BMT!
I contacted a recruiter today for the first time. He emailed me an Excel worksheet document containing a list of jobs. The highlighted ones were ALWAYS available. And the non-Highlighted ones on the list were just the one's they had. He confused the hell out of me.... And pretty much the only ALWAYS available one's were Mechanical & Some General Jobs. I wanted some Electrical positions tho. Do you think I can wait for a job to be open???....
I know for sure I will score high in word and paragraph comprehension. I am an english wizard. I am shooting for personnel and open admin. I will definitely wait!
The AF has about every job you can find in civilian life! Computer programming and analyst, tv/radio production including on air positions, all kinds of aircraft maintenance. At any time the air force had openings in about all jobs but that doesn't mean their accepting people for those it just means others need people more.
I was recently speaking with a Air Force adviser about job selection. He told me that theirs no such thing as waiting for a specific job. Can that be a trick of forcing me into job thats open on the spot?
You know what, if your gut feeling says wait and you are willing to wait then wait for a couple of months. Try it out until your gut says "ok it's time to choose." Personally, I'm going to do the same but with multiple jobs I REALLY want (probably 5). Good luck 🍀
You should Wait buddy. "Life happens" as they say. As you may have heard about the military, it's "mission first" and school is always runner up to the mission. Wait a few months.
You'll enjoy the airforce regardless of what you do if you apply yourself I spent 8 years in Europe before coming back stateside left service as E6 tsgt after just 8 years a career path is only as good as you make it I enjoyed my job that was 45 years ago
Glad I found this, suppose I should hurry up and get qualified through MEPs to start waiting. I'd def wait for something good rather than waste your talent on something you hate.
You should wait but I have heard for actuality that they have very few of them less than 1,000 for sure but I have heard the number is less than that. Its not like Admin, Security Forces and Nurse corps where they need you at every single installation. Its a tight unit.
Fifth...ALL enlistees SAY that they want to be an office. Less than 1%...WAY less than 1% get that done. I'll explain why. The USAF is not an 8 to 5 job. It is 7-24, with deployments. The VAST majority of all enlisted simply cannot even consider college while they're working shiftwork. I waited until I was 32, and a MSgt, and finally got a job teaching technical training before I was able to go to school full time, and get my degree. Too late for a commission..but I made E-7 at 11 years, and was pretty happy with that.
Third..ANY prospective enlistee needs to DEMAND that their recruiter take you to an Air Force Base, and VISIT the workcenters of the jobs you're interested in. Take to the youngest person there, with the fewest stripes, and ask questions.
-Flash- tbh I didn't even score that high, I do excellent at school but horrible on the ASVAB, came out with a 48, and picked sensor operator as my first and got it as my first, I'm signing a 6 year contract with them.
Fufu Jones did you already go through your top secret clearance check? If I don't like my job I plan on trying to cross train into this afsc...( lol I looked at my jobs I qualified for an it was there and I never even noticed it while selecting my jobs at Meps)
Security forces is what you make of it, I know some people that love it and people that hate it. Just depends on where your stationed and your Leadership.
Yes you should wait! I feel like I may be in the same boat. I want the Medical Laboratory position so badly or some sort of related laboratory science position. My recruiter is a special operations recruiter and he wants to get me into pararescue. I don't really want that... What I'm going to do, and I think you're doing something similar, is put the jobs that I qualify for on my test scores and actually want and that's IT! I'm not going to risk signing a contract for a job that I don't really like! I could do that in civilian life right now and would be just as miserable. My recruiter told me I needed to put 12 jobs down, and only 4 of them to be medical, but screw that. It IS their job, after all, to fill vacancies in the Air Force, so they'll get you into any job you'll sign for. Only sign for what you want or else it isn't worth it!
My recruiter is telling me that I can’t wait for a job smh I really want a medical job or something in the admin/ personnel... and he’s still trying to force me into listing sf even when I told him I’ll go open general smh... I’m not budging either
You should have put open electrical along with your #1 pic so if you didn't get it then there would have been a good chance you would have got it! Because that's where the majority of bmt trainees get their jobs at bmt and what's left over goes to the MEPS process
Tech training for unmanned aerial operations is only 31 days. Six weeks. Not much to it. You can find MUCH more demanding jobs than that. Also..not many civilian jobs flying a Reaper...
Id say wait, man. I'm in the process of joining the airforce and my #1 pick is job code 3D1X2: Cyber Transport Systems. I have a few others in my list but there's nothing I want to do more than be a network admin/engineer for the USAF and I'll wait for it.
@@vitoratio2718 nope. My recruiter seems pretty honest but he says that 3D jobs are basically off the table unless I were to get a certification like A+ first. And he is pushing me towards the closest he can being electronics. So I'm not sure what to do. I dont really want to wait around forever but I dont want a job I'm not real interested In either, I want to succeed.
@@vitoratio2718 I've taken the practice test and got an 85 before tarted studying. My recruiter doesnt seem to want to send me to meps unless I have jobs available and that I would be willing to sign for. Said if I put only cyber jobs I would be probably get turned down by his boss as the air force doesnt seem to have many slots for cyber/3D.
I was an Air Force recruiter in the 80's and 90's. Back then most people went into open areas. If someone had come in to my office job locked on only one job I would not have been able to work with them. In fact if i had sent someone down to the MEPS job locked and not willing to go into an open area I would have been reprimanded for wasting the MEPS time. In my opinion why should the Air Force cater to someone who wants only one job when there are other highly motivated applicants ready to get there Air Force career started.
Luis Garcia there’s a good chance you’ll be doing dumb shit like standing at gates for 8 hours a day. Yeah there’s dog handler and raven and EST and all those but you’d have to work your way up to that. It’s extremely boring I heard
At the end of the day Recruiters are Salesmen and they have a quota to meet their job is to get you in and fill those high demand jobs that nobody wants now if you're going in as an officer its an entirely different story
Im currently in the process and he’s trying to con me to go open general too. Most likely trying to get me in security forces or services. I’ll never do any of that shit. The only open I’ll do is open admin. But even so that’s a last resort. Never go open anything.
I served on active duty for more than twenty years, in the Air Force. I have a couple of suggestions. First: do. not. ever. sign. to. enlist. without. a. guaranteed. job. JUST DON'T DO IT. This is your life. If you go in with verbal guarantees, and that's it, I guarantee you will be grounds maintenance in Minot, picking up garbage at ten below. Second..while in BMT, I was told my guaranteed job was no longer available, here's your list of (shitty) jobs you can have. I got stubborn, and said..FINE, release me from my enlistment contract. They left, and came back, and GEE! It came back open. So..that's #2. Don't let them bully you. #3...Security Forces can be excellent. There are two kinds. Security, and Law Enforcement. Security is guarding a flightline, LE is driving around in a car, convincing the Squadron Commander's wife to slow the fuck down. Both can be hazardous.
If you like aviation why not be a loadmaster? You can actually be on a flight crew and fly! Best job in the AF for an enlisted man. That advice might be a little outdated coming from me as I was a loadmaster (C-141 and C-130) from 1966 to 1970😂 but I think it’s still a great job.
USAF '68-'72. During my time they had the draft going on. I really wanted to join the Air Force so I had to be a little bit more hasty in the decision process. If the draft and 'Nam wasn't going on, i would have been more selective in my choice of specialties. My advice is to wait them out. And DON'T enlist for 6 years. Like all branches of service, don't be so "gung-ho"! Remember, once you sign the contract, you become government property, and the air force will tell you what to do, and send you to any place they need you! Don't take to "heart" everything the recruiter is telling you. A lot of it is just hype, and they have their quotas to fill. My opinion, is finish college in the Air Force, and it will be much easier after the first enlistment, to cross train &/or go to OTS. I don't want to come across as negative. Learn to take things in"baby steps". The USAF is a great outfit!
hey im hoping i can get electrical systems job when i go in the air force for BMT this august. Hopefully there are openings for it because i want to be an electrician
I came in with the same confidence as you. Scored high on the picat and I wanted a programming job. He gave me a list of available jobs, kept trying to push me to airborne liguist. He told me the specialty test for programming is very hard (What's funny is the DLAB for linguist is much harder). I go to meps to verify my score on the 17th, my recruiter likes to tease me with my score because he thought I cheated on 10th grade level math, apparently. So for the most part, this whole recruitment process has me a bit nervous. Also, the confusion of the verification test requires a video that I might make myself, the general perception is that you shouldn't study because if you score higher you have to retake the whole thing. This type of testing puts so much more pressure on people, especially if you did not cheat, and I don't understand why the government would use it.
@@anthonybrooks1938 I just went to meps today and failed the duck walk. Some kid in the lobby was talking shit about how the air force guy couldn't do basic maneuvers. So sadly, no I did not get any job today. everything was easy until that point
So, what happen? Did you get it? I want to ship out in January but my number one job is Client Systems and my number 2 is Aerospace Sys Sensor Operator.
im slightly confused, if you dont mind, correct me if im wrong, i thought once any of your jobs that were on your job sheet show up for that month you have to take it no matter if it was the one you really wanted or not. I go to Meps next week and im really trying to find a way to get the only job i want. thanks!
Hey there is a comment above saying that he waited for what he wanted even though one on his list became available. He said no and waited, and he got it. Girl I've been searching everywhere for them to answer this specific question. Yes u have to be confident and say no sir or no ma am , I will wait,
I mostly want to work with the air force office of special investigations, I figure security forces is a closely related. Then again if I score high enough for an intelligence job I'd probably be better off with that.
The best part of airforce Security forces is DAGRE or TRF. If you're going normal Security forces, and RAVEN you're on the low end of the spectrum. RAVEN and normal Security forces are very boring and basic.
Number 1. ALL recruiters are LIARS. Number 2. Security Forces Is ALWAYS on their "HOT LIST" Hot List means the AF needs those NOW!.. Number 3. Security Forces is the WORST job in the Air Force, highest turn over rate, thats why is ALWAYS on the HOT SHEET Number 4. There is NEVER "1" opening in a field. The Air Force IS NOT going to run a 3 month Tech School for "ONE" guy. Tech school has 100 guys or more. The Air Force isn't filling jobs onese twoese at a time. (refer back to Number 1... ALL RECRUITERS ARE LIARS) Number 5. No matter what job you get, if for any reason you fail or drop out of your first pick Tech school, you will be sent to Security Forces. Security Forces is full of the dropouts of every other tech school in the Air Force. Number 6. The Air Force will turn out to be NOTHING like what you expected. You are most likely to only serve 4 years and get out. That is just the facts. My experience in the Air Force showed me, that the only guys that stayed in for 20 years, were people that could get and hold a job on the outside.... DEAD BEATS and DRUNKS... 16 year Staff Sgts, that couldn't get a job at Walmart. Get in, try to get a good job, with transferable skills, get experience and whatever school benefits you can, then GET OUT. < Thats just the facts.
Making it thru MEPS? I don't understand. But I'm old I guess. I went in the Marines in 89...we went to MEPS to get classified I guess....then we were on the plane then on the bus then on the yellow footprints.
Fourth...f*ck enlisting in the Air Force. Deliver pizza's, go to a community college, and get your Associates. Then transfer into a four year school, or even better, find an ROTC school, and come into the military as an officer. Why would you be the lowest of the low, just because you're in a hurry? Enlisting inherently is not a good idea.
How does the recruiting process work? I have yet to meet with a recruiter. But I’m only trying to go for one job, and that is fire protection. I know that a lot of people want that job but firefighting is what I been studying for at my local college. I have not been to MEPS and I have not took test or anything.
Nothing really, I myself have SF as my 1st pick. People just have too high expectations at the beginning. It's a career field in which you gotta work your way up and there's SO MUCH to within it honestly.
My recruiter tried his best to give me Security Forces. He even tried disqualifying me. Every time I had a problem I just called meps I don't trust recruiters. Its all about numbers to them. I would love to find out if I can wait for a job I want!!!!!
FlightGuy That is not true! You can wait for any job you want as long as you qualify for it. I don't know why your recruiter would lie. Your recruiter keeps trying to drag you into security forces because the AF has so MANY openings to fill for that job. Don't settle for that, and yes you CAN wait for a job you want on your list.
Looking to join but need help on job selection. Mechanically gifted but unsure after seeing some posts saying mechanics have really long days. Need help!
I really want to go into a mechanical field but people keep saying you'll work 12 hour days and i want a job that will be normal 8 hour days. Reconsidering my job choices if it's that bad
23shipoopi23 according to my recruiter they seem to be. I’m going in as Battlefield Airmen but he spoke about refueling. Best bet is to talk to your recruiter... or a recruiter.
Did your recruiter ever mention that if non of your listed jobs were available at the moment, he or she could book you into an open aptitude area regardless if that's what you wanted? I just got into DEP a week ago and my recruiter told me that I'll be booking a job next month whether if its going to one of the jobs I listed or the open aptitude area I have chosen. I'm like you, willing to wait for my selected jobs and I don't want to go in open general if I could wait. My recruiter also seems to suggest he could discharge me from DEP if I refuse to go open general if non of my selected jobs were available.
SomeWeirdAsianDude he did mention how I can choose to go open General but he did tell me that he could discharge me from dep if I choose not to choose a job in a month. That is a lie. you can wait for a job you want to open up.
If were honest, "technically" the heart of the Air Force are the fighter pilots who support the other branches and Security Forces who are the second infantry power of the Air Force without Security Forces who would guard those planes? There are only 2 real soldier aspects of The Airforce that a real hardcore military everyone else is simply doing cushioned 9X5 just in a military setting they provide support to the "actual Air men" who are fighter pilots and the Defenders who protect the ground.
Hello Peers! Quick question I went to talk to a recruiter recently and told him my career pathway which is public relations ( photojournalist & Broadcast Journalist) and he told me as expected that those jobs aren’t high in demand. That being said he that one was open this past December and who knows when it’ll open back up I wouldn’t be to picky I would just get in to get your foot in the door. Here’s my question should I wait till my job opens up or just enlist? I see so many people regret their jobs it just leaves me to think..
I hope you get to be a recruiter one day so you can realize how silly this whole video/mindset is. Your recruiters hands are tied and he/she doesn’t pick your jobs, the Sq books them and if you only qualified for 3E0X1 out of a whole list of jobs, chances are your ASVAB was somewhat low/ and or Physical Dq’d you from a lot of jobs. Not his problem. He tried to get you in. Not sure if you ended up getting in or not but there is not “waiting for your job” if a recruiter tells you that he or she is not a good recruiter and you as an applicant would need to be flexible to whatever job they can get you.
I'm an electrical engineer, I've been looking at the electronics engineer over at USAjobs. How is that different from a civilian job?? is it the same or are you signing up for marches, living at the camp, etc. Do you know anything about that??
What kind of research you did to find job options? I want to be a police officer when I get out but I also want something a little more thrilling than a security forces/ gate guard
Sensor operator is also my very first pick, but I failed the depth perception test even though I have great vision! How did you even pass that depth perception test?!
Hey man, i hope you can answer or anybody. I plan to enlist in the active duty, but I still have some responsibilities at home that I cant leave for now. I've already taken my PiCat test and supposedly take my PiCat verification test. I told my recruiter about my situation and he told me that he will cancel my verification test and come talk to him some other time. I was really stoked about joining but my recruiter doesnt seem to encourage me a lot. He also told me that I needed to put down 10 and fill up the DEP score in order for me to go through the process because he told me that the military isnt looking for someone who just wants to wait for a job that is available. I felt really bummed so I plan to maybe join the national guard instead.
They say that last line to everyone. They make it seem like if you are really there to serve, then you should take what you get. But, at the end of the day. You are the one who is going to have to serve the four to six years. Do you want to serve in a job you hate? Because it's not like in the civilian world where you can just quit, you're stuck until your contract is up. I served twelve years, my husband retired( both Army) my son, and nephew are in the AF, my daughter is waiting for her job.I work on post in a military community. ANd the one thing you will hear over and over from any veteran -make sure you like your job..don't just rush in, and then be depressed later. Her recruiter is pushing her to take whatever or go open general, she scored a 94 and he is trying to make her take anything.. no. She's she wants medical and so we will wait. Good luck.
Hey so I have seen a few videos saying you can decline to take a job on your list but my recruiter is saying that I have to put an aptitude area on my list and that I have to take the first job that pops up from my list even if it is just the aptitude area. Is my recruiter just lying to get me in ASAP? Not sure how to handle this.
Yes you can decline a job on your list if you want to wait until you like something on your list to come up, and yes I believe you have to have to put at least one aptitude on your list, don't quote me on that. Again, you do not have to pick a job you do not want right away.
@@_ileaj_ that's not the way it works. You will put a "list" of jobs down that you are willing to do. They are not going to give you a job you don't list. Simply put: if you don't want a specific job, don't list it.
Larry Houdini Yeah right! I enlisted in the Army though because I wanted to be a crew chief for a Blackhawk and as a crew chief I’d be a door gunner so it all falls into play.
I’ve got the list of jobs I qualify for, but I don’t have an idea of what I want for certain. What is the best way to research and see what I really wanna do? Thanks
I just swore into the Air Force last week and gave my top 10 job list to my recruiter yesterday. I asked if the job isn’t available that I want can I wait until it is and her response was no. Is she lying to me and can I really wait if I want to?
TH-cam has made the job of recruiter more difficult. Teens are coming armed with info.
soursop1972 Bernie Air Force Mammals! Very wonderful and very strong!
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They’re not happy lol. They want to trick us into signing up for jobs and things that’ll only benefit them and screw us over.... no way jose. Thank god for TH-cam and reddit lol
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Ex-AF here... you are soooo right... Patience pays! Literally!
I agree with David Pike, and this goes for ANY of the Armed Services....be willing to wait to get the job YOU want. Do not settle. Most people who cave in and just take what's available end up being miserable, and get out. All the officer stuff is something else altogether. But I will say about that, the service you're in will look at your evals, and recommendations from your CO. Does anyone actually think they will do an outstanding job in a field they hate??? Most humans, don't work like that. Get the job you want, the one you're interested in and will work hard at.....it will show to the folks who write your evals. Then, when you are ready to become an officer there will be some substance to your request.
No such thing as a ex air-force once airman always a airmen
MOB Entertainment I mean. Yes. In your mind. But it’s like when your a retired cop. Your an ex cop. If your a retired air force man your ex Air Force.
Security Services, It’s a stepping stone for a career in law enforcement when you leave
I served in the AF. Yes, definitely worth it to be patient and wait for the right job. The rest of your life will be impacted for the better.
Hey man, I was in your shoes a few months ago... After MEPS my recruiter told me the same bad news... that I only had one job on my list that was available, which was a crew chief job (mechanic) and I was super bummed out. So I told her straight up that I'm not doing a job that I don't really want. So she told me to wait a month, and I ended up getting my first pick! Which was RPA Sensor Operator as well. Now it's reserved and I ship out November 14th! Moral of the story, stick it out until you get the job you want. I lucked out by only having to wait a month to get it. Don't let them trick you with that officer shit... that's 4 years of your life.
Garrett Patterson did u get that job too? See u on the 14th then man!
Fufu Jones Ayyy that's awesome man, so you got RPA Sensor Operator and November 14th as your ship out date??
Garrett Patterson yesss siirrrr! You got a snapchat?
Fufu Jones that's crazy bro! What're the odds lol and yeah it's Garrettpattersn !
Crew chief sucks. You were smart sticking to your guns
Hey! I just wanted to say this video was super helpful as I started looking into how to get a job in the Air Force and so thank you for posting it and keeping it up! I hope you're well, from one wingman to another.
Ever heard “patience is a virtue”, your doing the right thing by waiting. Some things aren’t meant to be. Don’t settle for something you don’t really want. Good luck young man, wish you well.
Lol the fact that my recruiter tried so hard to get me to do security forces 😂 I've done too much research to be dumb enough to go through with SF
What's so bad about it. I wish you all would go into depth rather just saying it's shitty. It would help those of us that are considering joining.
LEE LEI right
LEE LEI do your own research and don’t depend on the words of others and no one will lose.
I’m go with security Force
WeAre Sisters if u watch a vid about security forces and that person says it’s horrible and u believe that ur not smart enough for the air force and u should go marines
Just took my ASVAB and I qualified for Sensor Operator. That's my first pick as well!
I'll let you know if It's open right now or not!
Did u get it?
Did you?
Yea me and him both got it
Hey man, what'd you make on the ASVAB ?
This video showed up in my recommended when I needed it most, thanks for making this bro
Glad it helped!
I enjoyed listing to you. In 1973 I went in under guaranteed enlistment. Air Force. They don't have that now BUT, I waited over a year for ATC. At the time I was working on my pilots' license, I did NOT MIND waiting. Jump to now. Two sons enlisted after 9-11. One military intel., the other E.O.D.. As a mom, I stressed college before you enlist. They didn't of course..... Our EOD son is still in, LOVES it and will retire in 5 more years. They put him in a really cool commercial for recruiting recently. I wish I knew what you ended up doing, I hope it's waiting and school!! The boys found that where ever they were, there was never a great time or they were in a bad place, to be going to school. You can knock out generals but a good degree ie. engineering will not be so easily had. In fact, it's not possible due to work ect.. Mr. EOD has been all over the world, even if it was just passing through with an overnight. As for recruiters. They are your friendly guy, but they NEED to fill the slots they have, even if they have to lie to do it! We are electrical contractors also. And you ARE TOO SMART for security!!! And for you people reading this, construction is hurting SO BAD for young people. Electrical & plumbing will be taught for FREE and you are FREE to live a normal life able to travel where ever YOU want to go! The stories I could tell about electricians wiring stuff in Iraq!!! People literally be killed in the showers.
3:50 Lol... I'm trying to get into Security Forces right now and my recruiter is trying his hardest to push me away from it.
lmao same I was confused cause I was expecting to get it just like how everyone explained how they ended up with it and then I guess I’m the outlier of many
Word to the wise if u go security forces try to go into the 820th or pararescue out of basic. If you can swim 100 laps back and forth without stopping, run 2 mile in 8 mins I believe, you can try out. Otherwise you will be guarding nukes in a wsa. Or waiving cars in the base, or god forbid arrest the same kids every week for stealing from the bx and since daddy is a E5 you under orders to call your flight sgt so they can call his bitchmade father or Karen mother to get the shitbag. Only good part about being seurity forces you can put officers on the ground. DONT COMFUSE YOUR RANK WITH MY AUTHORITY HALT TURN AWAY FROM THE SOUND OF MY VOICE. YEP IN 1999 That's what it was. I always loved the Air Force But hated the way they did things. We had to watch other drill instructors fold a rag at the edge of a bunk bed. They each had a 30 minute presentation to do it and where in competition with each other for some drill instructor hat crap. 35 push ups, 50 situps, 2 mile run in 25 minutes, alot of us walked it. Airforce best food, pretty women, and no pt. Just go into the Army... AIRPOWER SPACE POWER AEF
Qualified for all jobs with 80’s across the board on asvab, security forces was my number 1 sensor operator number 2 and loadmaster 3
Tyler Chasse security forces was my number 1 choice until I took the ASVAB and got a 92 and now it’s not even on my top10. If you qualify for other jobs then you should take those opportunities and run with it, unless you REALLY wanna do security forces I would say rethink your decision. There’s a reason you only need a 36 to qualify for SF
Play the waiting game...your job will come up if you are willing to wait...good video..
It's scary to think that what if you want a job but someone has been waiting for months for.
Damn don't tap the table too loud
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Yea wait for job because u going be stuck with it for the next 4 or 6 years of your life
I'm currently a college instructor teaching math and computer science, and I'm strongly considering security forces actually. My whole point of wanting to change my career and join the military is to receive weapons and combat training. Though I agree securing the base for 11 hours a day would be boring, getting a technical or office position would defeat the purpose of why I want to join the military. I'm tired of tech and desk jobs.
@@saulpayan1171 I can't. I'm too old.
Thanks for the video. Answered a very important question for me.
I was told by the recruiter that you put down 5 jobs at meps, and if they select you, and it’s for one of those other 4 jobs u put down and not your number one job u listed first , there’s no turning back, and there’s no second chance to do the process again, no second chance to appear before another board, if u decline, it’s pretty much over , u get no more chances to be an officer since u declined selection into the airforce, and that no recruiter will ever work with you after that
I got a 79 score in my asvab and i want to do security forces. There's nothing wrong with that. I plan on going into the OSI after my first couple years in...hopefully.
How’d it go for you??? I got the exact same score
You still alive? How'd it go?
@@luciferiandread2709 security forces tech school was fun! Currently stationed as Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It was challenging at times but that was the mist fun I've had. Its good to leave your house and see whats out in the world!
Found the recruiter
@@og_unoriginal6147 LOL
I enlisted under the softbook program and was in dep for 13 months. Patience is key man wouldnt change my job for anything
Air Traffic Control, or Weather. These are the two best jobs. I was a weather guy for 20 years, and then another 15 as a civilian. I have a sweet pension, 400K in the bank, and a beautiful home on a lake, and I am completely retired. Get a job that has HIGH value in the civilian community.
Dennis Svitak where did you work in weather outside of the Air Force?
I put that as my no. 1 pick to. Didn't get it. But I got my no. 2. Aircraft loadmaster. Leaving June 20th
Your a lucky man, unfortunately I did not get a qualifying score for loadmaster otherwise that would of been one of my top 3 picks in a heart beat. You are going to get to travel and wear a flight suit like the pilots. I hope you enjoy your job, and good luck at BMT!
I contacted a recruiter today for the first time. He emailed me an Excel worksheet document containing a list of jobs. The highlighted ones were ALWAYS available. And the non-Highlighted ones on the list were just the one's they had. He confused the hell out of me....
And pretty much the only ALWAYS available one's were Mechanical & Some General Jobs. I wanted some Electrical positions tho. Do you think I can wait for a job to be open???....
Who Me i want loadmaster so bad
Loadmaster is gonna be my #1 aswell. I havent talked to a recruiter yet but im about to!
Mason Owens can u describe loadmaster
I know for sure I will score high in word and paragraph comprehension. I am an english wizard. I am shooting for personnel and open admin. I will definitely wait!
The AF has about every job you can find in civilian life! Computer programming and analyst, tv/radio production including on air positions, all kinds of aircraft maintenance.
At any time the air force had openings in about all jobs but that doesn't mean their accepting people for those it just means others need people more.
I was recently speaking with a Air Force adviser about job selection. He told me that theirs no such thing as waiting for a specific job. Can that be a trick of forcing me into job thats open on the spot?
Anthony Bullock yeah
Definitely, It is a trick.
You know what, if your gut feeling says wait and you are willing to wait then wait for a couple of months. Try it out until your gut says "ok it's time to choose." Personally, I'm going to do the same but with multiple jobs I REALLY want (probably 5). Good luck 🍀
LayLove it's the smartest thing to do. I would rather know I at least waited rather than rushing into it and ending up with something I will regret.
I needed to see this.
You should Wait buddy. "Life happens" as they say. As you may have heard about the military, it's "mission first" and school is always runner up to the mission. Wait a few months.
Hold out and get what you want!
You'll enjoy the airforce regardless of what you do if you apply yourself I spent 8 years in Europe before coming back stateside left service as E6 tsgt after just 8 years a career path is only as good as you make it I enjoyed my job that was 45 years ago
Glad I found this, suppose I should hurry up and get qualified through MEPs to start waiting. I'd def wait for something good rather than waste your talent on something you hate.
what did you score on ASVAB ?
There is a lot to do in security forces not just guard a gate..
Such as?
weaboo jones Check out Ravens program
I go Phoenix raven if I went
You should wait but I have heard for actuality that they have very few of them less than 1,000 for sure but I have heard the number is less than that. Its not like Admin, Security Forces and Nurse corps where they need you at every single installation. Its a tight unit.
Fifth...ALL enlistees SAY that they want to be an office. Less than 1%...WAY less than 1% get that done. I'll explain why. The USAF is not an 8 to 5 job. It is 7-24, with deployments. The VAST majority of all enlisted simply cannot even consider college while they're working shiftwork. I waited until I was 32, and a MSgt, and finally got a job teaching technical training before I was able to go to school full time, and get my degree. Too late for a commission..but I made E-7 at 11 years, and was pretty happy with that.
Third..ANY prospective enlistee needs to DEMAND that their recruiter take you to an Air Force Base, and VISIT the workcenters of the jobs you're interested in. Take to the youngest person there, with the fewest stripes, and ask questions.
I got Remotely piloted system sensor Operator as my first pick and I got it, leave for basic November 14th
Fufu Jones what are the asvab requirements for sensor operator? And I leave on the 14 also👍🏽
-Flash- tbh I didn't even score that high, I do excellent at school but horrible on the ASVAB, came out with a 48, and picked sensor operator as my first and got it as my first, I'm signing a 6 year contract with them.
Fufu Jones did you already go through your top secret clearance check? If I don't like my job I plan on trying to cross train into this afsc...( lol I looked at my jobs I qualified for an it was there and I never even noticed it while selecting my jobs at Meps)
-Flash- yea I'm all set and ready, I'm waiting for basic training right now. Less than a month left!
Fufu Jones what's your snap... I'll add you to a group chat with about 30 other people leaving November 14
My recruiter is pushing me to do SF too... I’m not listing it at all
Security forces is what you make of it, I know some people that love it and people that hate it. Just depends on where your stationed and your Leadership.
Kendrick Ervin exactly. It's just a matter of what you make of it. And I'm sure depending where your stationed also can make or break it.
Don’t get a job you don’t want, tell them to call you back when that position is open
Is that what you did and was it recently
Join the Army, you can pick your job before you go to MEPS and sign your contact.
True.
Yes you should wait! I feel like I may be in the same boat. I want the Medical Laboratory position so badly or some sort of related laboratory science position. My recruiter is a special operations recruiter and he wants to get me into pararescue. I don't really want that... What I'm going to do, and I think you're doing something similar, is put the jobs that I qualify for on my test scores and actually want and that's IT! I'm not going to risk signing a contract for a job that I don't really like! I could do that in civilian life right now and would be just as miserable. My recruiter told me I needed to put 12 jobs down, and only 4 of them to be medical, but screw that. It IS their job, after all, to fill vacancies in the Air Force, so they'll get you into any job you'll sign for. Only sign for what you want or else it isn't worth it!
Krooked Kid not to mention pj is the most dangerous and difficult job they have. Full blown spec ops.
My recruiter is telling me that I can’t wait for a job smh I really want a medical job or something in the admin/ personnel... and he’s still trying to force me into listing sf even when I told him I’ll go open general smh... I’m not budging either
Where’s your recruiter? Lol I want SF really badly.
You should have put open electrical along with your #1 pic so if you didn't get it then there would have been a good chance you would have got it! Because that's where the majority of bmt trainees get their jobs at bmt and what's left over goes to the MEPS process
Tech training for unmanned aerial operations is only 31 days. Six weeks. Not much to it. You can find MUCH more demanding jobs than that. Also..not many civilian jobs flying a Reaper...
Can you make a video about special operations job selection.
Id say wait, man. I'm in the process of joining the airforce and my #1 pick is job code 3D1X2: Cyber Transport Systems. I have a few others in my list but there's nothing I want to do more than be a network admin/engineer for the USAF and I'll wait for it.
I plan on joining and thats the job i want the most as well, did you end up getting it?
Mundane Carnality any luck? I'm looking into it jobs and my recruiter is basically telling me they rarely have slots and wants me for sere lol
@@tarasmigs9114 i got the job, leaving on Jan. 22
Have you taken your asvab yet?
@@vitoratio2718 nope. My recruiter seems pretty honest but he says that 3D jobs are basically off the table unless I were to get a certification like A+ first. And he is pushing me towards the closest he can being electronics. So I'm not sure what to do. I dont really want to wait around forever but I dont want a job I'm not real interested In either, I want to succeed.
@@vitoratio2718 I've taken the practice test and got an 85 before tarted studying. My recruiter doesnt seem to want to send me to meps unless I have jobs available and that I would be willing to sign for. Said if I put only cyber jobs I would be probably get turned down by his boss as the air force doesnt seem to have many slots for cyber/3D.
I was an Air Force recruiter in the 80's and 90's. Back then most people went into open areas. If someone had come in to my office job locked on only one job I would not have been able to work with them. In fact if i had sent someone down to the MEPS job locked and not willing to go into an open area I would have been reprimanded for wasting the MEPS time. In my opinion why should the Air Force cater to someone who wants only one job when there are other highly motivated applicants ready to get there Air Force career started.
Wait for the job you want.My recruiter suckered me in to an open contract fortunately it worked out but alot of the time it doesn't. Served 86 to 92
What's the difference between open and closed contract?
My first pick was electrical systems lol. Just got uas sensor operator as my last pick. Leave in 2 months 2 days after graduation.
my recruiter is trying to con me into security forces, really pissing me off
Trumpeta7 yo please tell me why no one likes that job cause that is the job I want to do please let me know what’s wrong with that job
Luis Garcia there’s a good chance you’ll be doing dumb shit like standing at gates for 8 hours a day. Yeah there’s dog handler and raven and EST and all those but you’d have to work your way up to that. It’s extremely boring I heard
well it’s three years later. you should make an update video as i’m a senior in high school enlisting by the end of 2021.
At the end of the day Recruiters are Salesmen and they have a quota to meet their job is to get you in and fill those high demand jobs that nobody wants now if you're going in as an officer its an entirely different story
Anyone else watching this in October 2020
Im currently in the process and he’s trying to con me to go open general too. Most likely trying to get me in security forces or services. I’ll never do any of that shit. The only open I’ll do is open admin. But even so that’s a last resort. Never go open anything.
I served on active duty for more than twenty years, in the Air Force. I have a couple of suggestions. First: do. not. ever. sign. to. enlist. without. a. guaranteed. job. JUST DON'T DO IT. This is your life. If you go in with verbal guarantees, and that's it, I guarantee you will be grounds maintenance in Minot, picking up garbage at ten below. Second..while in BMT, I was told my guaranteed job was no longer available, here's your list of (shitty) jobs you can have. I got stubborn, and said..FINE, release me from my enlistment contract. They left, and came back, and GEE! It came back open. So..that's #2. Don't let them bully you. #3...Security Forces can be excellent. There are two kinds. Security, and Law Enforcement. Security is guarding a flightline, LE is driving around in a car, convincing the Squadron Commander's wife to slow the fuck down. Both can be hazardous.
If you like aviation why not be a loadmaster? You can actually be on a flight crew and fly! Best job in the AF for an enlisted man. That advice might be a little outdated coming from me as I was a loadmaster (C-141 and C-130) from 1966 to 1970😂 but I think it’s still a great job.
USAF '68-'72. During my time they had the draft going on. I really wanted to join the Air Force so I had to be a little bit more hasty in the decision process. If the draft and 'Nam wasn't going on, i would have been more selective in my choice of specialties. My advice is to wait them out. And DON'T enlist for 6 years. Like all branches of service, don't be so "gung-ho"! Remember, once you sign the contract, you become government property, and the air force will tell you what to do, and send you to any place they need you! Don't take to "heart" everything the recruiter is telling you. A lot of it is just hype, and they have their quotas to fill. My opinion, is finish college in the Air Force, and it will be much easier after the first enlistment, to cross train &/or go to OTS. I don't want to come across as negative. Learn to take things in"baby steps". The USAF is a great outfit!
hey im hoping i can get electrical systems job when i go in the air force for BMT this august. Hopefully there are openings for it because i want to be an electrician
I hope you get the job. Being an electrician is a great skill to obtain!
I pray I get into security forces. I'm going to talk with a recruiter this Saturday.
Some Random you definitely should. It requires a low score and is in high demand
Thanks for the video bruh! Pliz just let me know the technics for passing asvab at ease that i can qualify for any job in IT field pliz
I'm a fossil, in '69 no choice, assigned to SP,3 yrs 9 months, 9 days, drafted joined AF
Did you see translator on the list? I'm huge on learning new languages
I came in with the same confidence as you. Scored high on the picat and I wanted a programming job. He gave me a list of available jobs, kept trying to push me to airborne liguist. He told me the specialty test for programming is very hard (What's funny is the DLAB for linguist is much harder). I go to meps to verify my score on the 17th, my recruiter likes to tease me with my score because he thought I cheated on 10th grade level math, apparently. So for the most part, this whole recruitment process has me a bit nervous. Also, the confusion of the verification test requires a video that I might make myself, the general perception is that you shouldn't study because if you score higher you have to retake the whole thing. This type of testing puts so much more pressure on people, especially if you did not cheat, and I don't understand why the government would use it.
Did you get the programming job? That’s one of my top choices.
@@anthonybrooks1938 I just went to meps today and failed the duck walk. Some kid in the lobby was talking shit about how the air force guy couldn't do basic maneuvers. So sadly, no I did not get any job today. everything was easy until that point
@@tttmarcel2777 oh wow :( you'll do fine without the AF
@@anthonybrooks1938 I'm not permanently DQ. My recruiter and me are just practicing and he says it's not a big deal.
@@anthonybrooks1938 I passed the EDPT and duck walk. I leave on the 6th of October to BMT.
I’m thinking of joining the Air Force man what are some tips and thinks I should know before joining
How is it so far?
So, what happen? Did you get it? I want to ship out in January but my number one job is Client Systems and my number 2 is Aerospace Sys Sensor Operator.
im slightly confused, if you dont mind, correct me if im wrong, i thought once any of your jobs that were on your job sheet show up for that month you have to take it no matter if it was the one you really wanted or not. I go to Meps next week and im really trying to find a way to get the only job i want. thanks!
Hey there is a comment above saying that he waited for what he wanted even though one on his list became available. He said no and waited, and he got it. Girl I've been searching everywhere for them to answer this specific question. Yes u have to be confident and say no sir or no ma am , I will wait,
I mostly want to work with the air force office of special investigations, I figure security forces is a closely related. Then again if I score high enough for an intelligence job I'd probably be better off with that.
Security Forces sucks in stereo, Dolby surround sound.
My recruiter just plugged me today with sensor operator 💪🏽🇺🇸🙏🏽
The best part of airforce Security forces is DAGRE or TRF. If you're going normal Security forces, and RAVEN you're on the low end of the spectrum. RAVEN and normal Security forces are very boring and basic.
What you mean what is Sager and ref cause I was going for security forces
Number 1. ALL recruiters are LIARS.
Number 2. Security Forces Is ALWAYS on their "HOT LIST" Hot List means the AF needs those NOW!..
Number 3. Security Forces is the WORST job in the Air Force, highest turn over rate, thats why is ALWAYS on the HOT SHEET
Number 4. There is NEVER "1" opening in a field. The Air Force IS NOT going to run a 3 month Tech School for "ONE" guy. Tech school has 100 guys or more. The Air Force isn't filling jobs onese twoese at a time. (refer back to Number 1... ALL RECRUITERS ARE LIARS)
Number 5. No matter what job you get, if for any reason you fail or drop out of your first pick Tech school, you will be sent to Security Forces. Security Forces is full of the dropouts of every other tech school in the Air Force.
Number 6. The Air Force will turn out to be NOTHING like what you expected. You are most likely to only serve 4 years and get out. That is just the facts.
My experience in the Air Force showed me, that the only guys that stayed in for 20 years, were people that could get and hold a job on the outside.... DEAD BEATS and DRUNKS... 16 year Staff Sgts, that couldn't get a job at Walmart.
Get in, try to get a good job, with transferable skills, get experience and whatever school benefits you can, then GET OUT. < Thats just the facts.
what is that means reason number6?
Security Force is what I’m looking at do and I’m sign up for a 6 year contract
I’m looking SF security Force
ANTONIO ACE MARTINEZ you’ll get it
Making it thru MEPS? I don't understand. But I'm old I guess. I went in the Marines in 89...we went to MEPS to get classified I guess....then we were on the plane then on the bus then on the yellow footprints.
What is the best way to research for jobs in the air force? I went on the site, but....
watch youtube videos on people who have that job
Fourth...f*ck enlisting in the Air Force. Deliver pizza's, go to a community college, and get your Associates. Then transfer into a four year school, or even better, find an ROTC school, and come into the military as an officer. Why would you be the lowest of the low, just because you're in a hurry? Enlisting inherently is not a good idea.
hey man, im about to go to MEPS and i wanna do Security Forces, you think its still open?
Shawn Filosi it's always open dude the AF always needs more defenders
How'd it go?
How does the recruiting process work? I have yet to meet with a recruiter. But I’m only trying to go for one job, and that is fire protection. I know that a lot of people want that job but firefighting is what I been studying for at my local college. I have not been to MEPS and I have not took test or anything.
Ayy wait a minute what’s wrong with security forces?? Serious question
Nothing really, I myself have SF as my 1st pick. People just have too high expectations at the beginning. It's a career field in which you gotta work your way up and there's SO MUCH to within it honestly.
I heard that any job you put on that list in MEPS you must accept. Is that true?
I am only interested in security forces.
Escadrille you’ll definitely be able to get security forces. It is in high demand and requires a very low score
I was told I can't wait for any job on my list. If any job comes up I have to take it.
My recruiter tried his best to give me Security Forces. He even tried disqualifying me. Every time I had a problem I just called meps I don't trust recruiters. Its all about numbers to them. I would love to find out if I can wait for a job I want!!!!!
FlightGuy That is not true! You can wait for any job you want as long as you qualify for it. I don't know why your recruiter would lie. Your recruiter keeps trying to drag you into security forces because the AF has so MANY openings to fill for that job. Don't settle for that, and yes you CAN wait for a job you want on your list.
FlightGuy I don't think I would be allowed to honestly. You should try finding another recruiter or figure out a method to show him that he is a liar.
MichealAngelo Wavy Even though it sounds easy it's very hard. My flight chief hates me and he runs everything.
Looking to join but need help on job selection. Mechanically gifted but unsure after seeing some posts saying mechanics have really long days. Need help!
I really want to go into a mechanical field but people keep saying you'll work 12 hour days and i want a job that will be normal 8 hour days. Reconsidering my job choices if it's that bad
Does anybody know if in-flight refueling jobs are open right now in the USAF?
23shipoopi23 according to my recruiter they seem to be. I’m going in as Battlefield Airmen but he spoke about refueling. Best bet is to talk to your recruiter... or a recruiter.
Did your recruiter ever mention that if non of your listed jobs were available at the moment, he or she could book you into an open aptitude area regardless if that's what you wanted? I just got into DEP a week ago and my recruiter told me that I'll be booking a job next month whether if its going to one of the jobs I listed or the open aptitude area I have chosen. I'm like you, willing to wait for my selected jobs and I don't want to go in open general if I could wait. My recruiter also seems to suggest he could discharge me from DEP if I refuse to go open general if non of my selected jobs were available.
SomeWeirdAsianDude he did mention how I can choose to go open General but he did tell me that he could discharge me from dep if I choose not to choose a job in a month. That is a lie. you can wait for a job you want to open up.
If were honest, "technically" the heart of the Air Force are the fighter pilots who support the other branches and Security Forces who are the second infantry power of the Air Force without Security Forces who would guard those planes? There are only 2 real soldier aspects of The Airforce that a real hardcore military everyone else is simply doing cushioned 9X5 just in a military setting they provide support to the "actual Air men" who are fighter pilots and the Defenders who protect the ground.
Great video
Hello Peers! Quick question I went to talk to a recruiter recently and told him my career pathway which is public relations ( photojournalist & Broadcast Journalist) and he told me as expected that those jobs aren’t high in demand. That being said he that one was open this past December and who knows when it’ll open back up I wouldn’t be to picky I would just get in to get your foot in the door. Here’s my question should I wait till my job opens up or just enlist? I see so many people regret their jobs it just leaves me to think..
I hope you get to be a recruiter one day so you can realize how silly this whole video/mindset is. Your recruiters hands are tied and he/she doesn’t pick your jobs, the Sq books them and if you only qualified for 3E0X1 out of a whole list of jobs, chances are your ASVAB was somewhat low/ and or Physical Dq’d you from a lot of jobs. Not his problem. He tried to get you in. Not sure if you ended up getting in or not but there is not “waiting for your job” if a recruiter tells you that he or she is not a good recruiter and you as an applicant would need to be flexible to whatever job they can get you.
I'm an electrical engineer, I've been looking at the electronics engineer over at USAjobs. How is that different from a civilian job?? is it the same or are you signing up for marches, living at the camp, etc. Do you know anything about that??
What’s unappealing about the SF jobs ?
What kind of research you did to find job options? I want to be a police officer when I get out but I also want something a little more thrilling than a security forces/ gate guard
bofa d why is it such a bad job? Is it only because it’s boring and gate guarding? I wouldn’t mind doing that
@@devn3813 The shifts you get is what makes it bad
Sensor operator is also my very first pick, but I failed the depth perception test even though I have great vision! How did you even pass that depth perception test?!
Depth perception isn't a requirement for 1U0X1
Hey man, i hope you can answer or anybody. I plan to enlist in the active duty, but I still have some responsibilities at home that I cant leave for now. I've already taken my PiCat test and supposedly take my PiCat verification test. I told my recruiter about my situation and he told me that he will cancel my verification test and come talk to him some other time. I was really stoked about joining but my recruiter doesnt seem to encourage me a lot. He also told me that I needed to put down 10 and fill up the DEP score in order for me to go through the process because he told me that the military isnt looking for someone who just wants to wait for a job that is available. I felt really bummed so I plan to maybe join the national guard instead.
They say that last line to everyone. They make it seem like if you are really there to serve, then you should take what you get. But, at the end of the day. You are the one who is going to have to serve the four to six years. Do you want to serve in a job you hate? Because it's not like in the civilian world where you can just quit, you're stuck until your contract is up. I served twelve years, my husband retired( both Army) my son, and nephew are in the AF, my daughter is waiting for her job.I work on post in a military community. ANd the one thing you will hear over and over from any veteran -make sure you like your job..don't just rush in, and then be depressed later.
Her recruiter is pushing her to take whatever or go open general, she scored a 94 and he is trying to make her take anything.. no. She's she wants medical and so we will wait. Good luck.
Hey so I have seen a few videos saying you can decline to take a job on your list but my recruiter is saying that I have to put an aptitude area on my list and that I have to take the first job that pops up from my list even if it is just the aptitude area. Is my recruiter just lying to get me in ASAP? Not sure how to handle this.
Yes you can decline a job on your list if you want to wait until you like something on your list to come up, and yes I believe you have to have to put at least one aptitude on your list, don't quote me on that. Again, you do not have to pick a job you do not want right away.
No, don't decline a job You put on Your list. Simply put, if you don't want the job...don't put it on your list.
@@yepwhy777 wait so u can or cannot wait for the ome you really want
@@96Collectors so if a job on your list becomes available that u really dont want, u can decline that and wait for the one you want??
@@_ileaj_ that's not the way it works. You will put a "list" of jobs down that you are willing to do. They are not going to give you a job you don't list. Simply put: if you don't want a specific job, don't list it.
Is an aerial gunner open most of the time?!?!
that'd be a sick position ✔
Larry Houdini Yeah right! I enlisted in the Army though because I wanted to be a crew chief for a Blackhawk and as a crew chief I’d be a door gunner so it all falls into play.
I’ve got the list of jobs I qualify for, but I don’t have an idea of what I want for certain. What is the best way to research and see what I really wanna do? Thanks
I just swore into the Air Force last week and gave my top 10 job list to my recruiter yesterday. I asked if the job isn’t available that I want can I wait until it is and her response was no. Is she lying to me and can I really wait if I want to?
If you don't want the job don't take it period, make it clear what job you want, all the best.
Yo do they care about you're high school grades ? 🤔
No. You just need to graduate
Did you ever get that job