Cyber Warfare / Cyber Ops is the best career field IMO. You are involved in the biggest events going on in the world, and “in the fight” without being in actual danger, and you get a TS clearance and the most transferable skills out of any AFSC I can think of. There’s SSgts and TSgts separating and making 120K+ in the private sector working for Cyber companies like CrowdStrike.
yup agree went into cyber ops with no knowledge and learned alot on the job during last two years i been in air force as a reservist. I can recommend anyone trying to retrain or enlist into cyber jobs is study comptia security + as it will make your time in tech school alot easier and is required to stay in this career field.
Exactly! I’m surprised he didn’t mention any jobs related to comm. I’m a cyber transport apprentice right now and I’ve learned so much about technology and etc while I’ve been in. Cyber jobs are the best jobs in the Air Force.
Before I joined the Air Force, I put a lot of thought into what would transition to a great job when I retired. The reality is no matter how long you stay in the Air Force, it is over at 30 years so you will be out by the time you are 48. That's time to get in another great occupation before you really retire. I saw the Air Force as a training ground for what comes next. So, STEM was my focus in high school. The Air Force practically throws educational opportunities at you from day one. So, I wanted to get into a high technology field when I joined. My first was high reliability power systems. It placed me in a field that aligned with radar, radio, various communications fields, computers and networking, etc. I was able to spend my off hours getting a BS degree in electronics engineering. After 8 years, I cross trained into Air Traffic Control maintenance where I worked with various radar and radio as well as computer systems to track aircraft in flight. When I retired from the Air Force, I found a job at one of the National Laboratories working on R&D of the most advanced equipment on the planet. It's been quite a trip. I'm now close to retiring full time. My advice is to think way ahead of where you are now. What do you want your future to look like?
NDI are just that, they are not the "doctors" for jets. Metals tech are the doctors of jets because they actually fix the issues. #3 - I agree, Intel would be the most interesting career field. I am curious to know what career fields were created in the Space Force.
I'm Cyber Systems Operations, and it's a job I'd highly recommend. Not only do I find it fascinating working with technology and servers, the hours are amazing, the environment is relaxed (I have my very own desk working 9-4:30 M-F as E3), and the experience gained is incredible. You gain tons of high level civilian certs, such as Sec+ with your training, as well as a TS Security Clearance, where outside the military, companies will pay big bucks to hire you. Often 6 digit salaries right out of a 4 or 6 year enlistment. But it's a great job if you're looking into taking classes and going to college in the Air Force. Most of the time you can grind out your classes at work during down time, or work on additional certifications. On top of that, we're significantly undermanned mainly because there's no way for the Air Force to compete financially with non-government companies paying so much more. So it's an easy job to get, and it's a really good job if you plan to stay in and retire because of bonuses, and more opportunities for SSgt+, but it's also good for those wanting to do one contract and get out. It's a good job for anyone pretty much. There are many upcoming signup bonuses, and reenlistment bonuses coming as well. So I highly recommend 1D7X1B (previously 3D0X2), or really any 1D7 jobs. We need more people, and it's an INCREDIBLE job! I'm biased, but I wouldn't recommend it at all if I really didn't enjoy it.
Hey I’m at looking into getting this job or something similar technology wise. Is it a difficult job to get? I heard you don’t always get your first pick at your job, but I really hope this is the one that I can get
@@dogebats4253 The career field is very undermanned. So if you put it in your top jobs, it's very likely to be picked. It's all based on what the Air Force wants, and they really want 1D7 personnel. Obviously, it's not a guarantee. But I would say there's a better chance you'd get it than not :D I just went to a meeting where they talked about assignments, and they were saying "we need people!" so they'll try to snag you up real quick.
I also wanted cyber system op but was put to cyber transport instead. However, I heard cyber transport is pretty cool too so ig it is what it is. Shipping in about 3 weeks.
@@HT-jz3im I don't know too much about Cyber Transport, but I think you'll be doing a lot more hands on. Which is amazing. Cyber Systems does a lot of remote desktop, and we never really go out to fix things, where you'll be dealing with actual hardware. Which is incredibly valuable, and can really be useful even in day to day life! Best of luck at basic and tech school! Congrats on the job!
Really want this job, unfortunately my recruiter told me it’s pretty much impossible for me to get, said they’ve had one out of their office in 15 years….
@konnerharris9821 my recruiters office never had a loadmaster and I somehow booked it, had to be dropped due to a medical issue and booked it again a year later. I leave April 25th lol
I was an air traffic control radar tech for nine years, great job. With training I received I was hired by the FAA and retired with 40 years of federal service.
Kyle's list is solid. My opinion, in any military job, it's what YOU make of it. I have been in the AF for 6 years and ANG for 16 years (Navigator, Medical), and it's really your attitude that makes the difference. Having said that, in the AF, flying jobs (load master, boom operator) are probably the best if you can handle being away from home like Kyle said. I would also recommend looking into Air Traffic Control. This is a very important career field that is applicable in the civilian side. But it's fairly high tempo and stress because your actions will affect safety of aircraft.
I was Security Specialist and not Law Enforcement. I retired as a recruiter. I worked nights and got my degree in Criminal Justice and Human Resources Management. After retirement I became a Deputy Sheriff and retired as a Police Sergeant. I took a much needed year off from being an SP and LEO. I decided to go back to work and now I work in Human Resources Specialist for the Veteran Affairs. You get what you put into the Air Force. My USAF sacrifices are 7 deployments to the sandbox, 3 to Central America and a few Team Spirit, REFORGER, Giant Sword, Olympic Arena, and Peacekeeper Challenge competitions. I am old but can still pass a USAF pt test any day of the week.
First off… security specialist is security forces. There is two types of security forces which is Law Enforcement and physical security. LE actual does patrols around the base like a normal cop does in parishes or counties. Physical security is guarding Protection level resources aka like guarding nuclear weapons.
HR for veterans was actually my dream job. I joined in 1986 and was LE for the first 10 years. Ended up retiring after 21 years as a First Sergeant. Also had earned two CCAF degrees in Criminal Justice and Human Resources Management and after I retired earned a bachelors in Organizational Management. I currently work as a federal contractor managing Passport Production for the state dept.
Rank is easier in security and your job is far more important. Old saying: LE is important but security will get you fired and nukes (security) will get you put in prison. If you screw up that is.@@bigfun7372
Hey Kyle, just wanting to send out positive vibes to you. You helped me so much in my decision to join the air force. I can now say several years in I have no regrets and am enjoying every minute of it. I wish only the best for you and your future.
I was enlisted and then became an officer. But when I was enlisted, I was a computer programmer. I think that the work-life balance is there, the career training is there, and the opportunities after the Air Force are there. You also get to program on aircraft avionics, intelligence systems, communications systems, office automation, base level data processing, etc. so you feel like your job is important.
@@dirkbuchanan9883 You need to talk to a recruiter but there are a list of degrees that the Air Force considers for the Officer Corp and the others who still want to join the AF might have to go as enlisted. I personally, knew many enlisted with Bachelor's Degrees but they were not the right ones.
That's a good point Peter, I am a P.E. and have a master degree in Civil Engineering, I am going as enlisted (AF reserves) since the path to become an office would take longer and I am on the age limit. I was wondering how is the process to become an officer after you enlist (for those who qualify).
@@luisnunes3758 I didn't use the specialized programs to obtain my Bachelor's degree while pursuing opportunities to become an officer. The AF had programs like Palace Chase and a few others back in the early 1990s but I didn't use them. I completed my Bachelor's degree in the Spring of 1992 which was about 6.5 years time in service as enlisted. I did CLEP for many of my units. I had to have my unit commander's endorsement for my application for Officer Training School. I think degrees with engineering backgrounds or maybe healthcare or legal have very few problems with their applications but for Bachelor's degrees in like History or English, or Business Administration, that would have been a problem. I had a Management Information Systems degree and prior enlisted experience in the computer field. I think the only real issue was that you couldn't be older than 39 to apply for OTS back then.
I flew as an Aeromedical evacuation technician in the reserve for 30 years until retirement. The best job I saw for an enlisted man is close to Loadmaster. It was the 'Boom Operator'. Flying on a KC 135, the boom operator works the refueling boom to refuel aircraft while flying. While sitting in the rear of the plane, he manipulates the refueling arm, (hose) to couple up with other aircraft to transfer fuel. You stay with the plane and are deployed all over the world in advance of ongoing missions. Your off time is where you land, often away from your home base, in other states and other countries. As member of the flight crew, your treatment by 'host' bases or countries is usually better than the regular troops. Worth looking into.... Good luck
Unfortunately, with reorganisation of CEAs, it seems like aircrew jobs like loadmaster and boom operator are going to be closed to retrainees. I’ve wanted to crosstrain into it, but as it stands with the divestment of airframes, it just won’t happen for me or for a lot of people for a while
Firefighter. It’s day camp for 20-something’s. Plus, you get the “hero-worship” of a first responder. You work a 24 on, 24 off schedule with one shift off every other week (you’re assigned the same day) which gives you a 3 day weekend. I never had to use my leave. We had no officers at the fire station as we’re pretty much enlisted/civilian run. We had no use for officers as they tend to get in the way. We were assigned to CE for our squadron needs and rarely saw any of our officers/first shirt. By the time I left the AF, our station had all the comforts of home: giant screen TVs, lazy boy recliners in the day room, semi-private sleeping quarters, a jacuzzi and sauna imported from Europe and so many other comforts it generated a sh!t storm of complaints. We were able to do all this as we’d been voted best fire department in SAC and they kindly dumped cash on us as a reward. Sadly, Castle AFB closed in ‘95(?) and the fire station was given to Merced County.
ive just enlisted as a 2A551, airlift/special mission maintenance. It's not gonna be glamourous as an admin, desk job, but as a future reservist, who is using it as a stepping stone to get me into the airlines, I ain't complaining
I was a Machinist in the USAF. Great job, I volunteered for the 3-11 shift. Best part was I only had stay out of site for a couple of hours and after that I was completely left alone with no old puke lifers hassling me. I built a chopper and a custom rifle on a 98 Mauser action on duty using. I had access to all of the Field Maintenance Shops. The shops were the world's best hobby shops. Being a night worker I had a room to myself and a sign on the outside of the door saying day sleeper, I had very few inspections of my room.
Sounds like you did a great job serving yourself while serving your country. Nothing wrong with taking advantage of unused facilities and available downtime while on duty, however, it sounds as if FMS was overmanned in some areas which was not uncommon in my day. However today, that may not be the case since the military in general is undermanned by several thousand, thanks to the civilian misuse and mismanagement of the military over the last 20+ years.
50 years ago I joined the air force. I was an Avionics Tech on the F-111. Awesome job. Out on the flightline fixing and launching airplanes. day or night
Thank you Kyle for putting the work! I do personally beleive it's very subjective to what each person traits and likes/dislikes ...ex. indoor jobs vs outdoor, office vs. Field, travel vs. Stationary ... dealing with people vs. Dealing with machines. I myself am a tech persona but I still want to talk to people ^_^ and I am v creative but I am not in video and photography ... I love traveling alot but I also enjoy being in an office sometimes working on a pc ... so I think I can never come with top 5 as my list might be top 1000 😁... Thank you again for the huge effort and value you and Mckenna provide through this channel.
I went in as a Law Enforcement Specialist (now Security Forces) back in 86. Not what some people would consider one of the best jobs. But I really would not have wanted to do anything else and it directly led to my civilian LE career (Criminal Investigator, USMS). So, if you are young please watch these videos, get as much information as you can without overwhelming yourself, but don’t let them dissuade you from doing something that is right for you.
I am going to MEPS tomorrow and was actually excited to be choosing Security Forces as I wanna go into law enforcement after I get out but I am seeing and reading a lot of negative comments about it and it’s a little disheartening
I was in the old Security Police. We did both le and security depending on the base and mission. I was le in Korea when they split the afc and I returned stateside to a sac detachment with b-52's. I was ssgt at the time and ended my tour as storage site supervisor. Yes it was a long long time ago.
I worked 7:30 to 4:30 in logistics in the Air Force for 20 years, the supply guy. I had a blast. I worked for a maintenance unit in Vegas for 2 years. They had to work on jets in 110 degree Vegas summer which was about 120 degrees on the flight line while I chilled in my office with the AC cranked up. All I did was order parts and maintain inventory. Everyone needs a supply guy so I was able to work several different jobs so it was great.
@@nena_366 Yes, very well. Almost every company needs someone to get them their supplies. I walked right into a management job with the state of California and all I had on my resume was 20 years experience in the AF without any college degree. The AF paid for all my supervisory/management training and that's what qualified me to be a manager at my current position. I also had several fed job offers. One was for a facility manager and another was for a unit deployment manager. I volunteered for both those positions because I wanted to be able to put them on my resume when I retired so if you're in the AF volunteer for anything that will qualify you to get a job when you retire or get out because you want to have as many options as possible. I took the state job because the retirement with the state is way better than a fed retirement.
If I could go back and do it over again, I would’ve picked biomedical equipment maintenance journeyman. Apparently on the civilian side you make a lot of money fixing medical equipment. Plus, the people that work in the Air Force they do that job, stay relatively clean and they get to eat a chow at a normal time and hour.
So far I have been in for 6 years and have been ARMS for the whole time. I absolutely love it working with the pilots. I would recommend this career field to everyone
@@kevinschannel5113 What do you think about the CCAF of aviation management is it worth it?? Before joining i was studying business admi I have 49 credits of college.
The 5 best jobs in the Air Force according to Airman Vision 1. Aviation Resource Management 2. Public Affairs 3. Load Master (if you're single and love travel... this is gucci!) 4. NDI 5. Administration (CSS)
If you can get into 1D7X1A-Network Systems, 1D7x1B-Systems Operations or 1D7x1D-Network Security Operations, you can be setup for a great paying job on the outside. I'm an Operations Superintendent with a Guard Combat Communications unit and I have SEVERAL SrA-MSgts in my flight who make $150K+ in their civilian careers and drill with us on the weekends. A Security Clearance and a Security+ certification (that you have to pass in Tech School) can open a lot of doors for you.
I was Public Affairs for 11 years. Made it to Tsgt (tough career field to get proved in). However, they sent me to law school. Retired as 0-4. The background was part of why I was selected. It is a great, great career field.
I was looking at public affairs positions as well, I currently have a Bachelors in Political science and History. Also, military experience in the Finnish army. I was wondering what kind of qualifications are required for this job?
I was pretty surprised to hear you pick ARM as top of the list. I was in service for 25 years with my first 4 on that job. We just called it Resource Management way back in 1986, but it was excessively cool. My time was at a pilot training squadron, so we had about 80 officers with another 120 student pilots who are also officers along with us 6 enlisted guys/gals. Actually got to fly three times during my four years and I did the flying... After takeoff of course. It was a very cool job indeed. Except birthdays or promotions because that meant the dunk tank. A bunch of pilots pick you up and toss you into a huge tank of water outside. Bring a dry uniform if you had any kind of celebration hahaha
Idk about other Admins, but as an Admin in the AF I’ve been working longer hours than my MX friends. We Admin and personnel take our work home. When covid hits, everyone was off while we actually worked. When you are in maintenance or any job that requires you to work on site, once you go home you are off. Admins unfortunately don’t stop, sometimes we work from home on weekends or leave. And if we leave early it’s normally due to a function which btw hinders our work and makes us work longer hours the next day. I’m not complaining at all, I just wanted to bring some light to the reality of admins/CSS personnel. Good career field but it is a very thankless job.
Currently Reserve Paralegal; however, prior AD Admin. Your description is spot on...especially that part about being expected to work from home. As a paralegal, seems like maintainers and defenders are the reason I'm in the office late due to them doing something dumb and I get stuck processing their article 15 or court-martial paperwork.
I was a aircraft maintenance specialist (crew chief) I did enjoy my time working on the planes. It was a dirty job. Any job working on the planes you will get dirty. Got to agree with your top 5 jobs. Aircraft Maintenance people had to work in all weather conditions , all types of hours and sometimes weeks at a time. Got to give it to Navy people when it comes to hours and weeks at time working on those aircraft carriers. God bless you Navy personnel for a fine job.
I was a power lineman in CE. But in that job over 23 years I did many different jobs. After 12 years I became an electrical planner. Planned jobs. I then did a special duty, FM Facility Maintenance in the ICBM missile field. I then went and became a zonal superintendent at Patrick AFB for all the facilities. My last base in Alaska I worked SABER. Basically contract management of contractors. My son now a tech is a machinist/welder in maintenance. EMS. He loves it. Going PCS to Yokota Japan in a month.
Could you enlighten me more on your sons career? I’m currently a civilian and looking to join the AF and my current background is in industrial maintenance, machining and welding. Your sons career sounds very interesting and eventually I’d want to get my bachelors in electrical or mechanical engineering. Thank you for your time.
@@victorlara9929 btw once you’re done with training and get your 5 level all bases have an excellent educational building with several universities and colleges where you can start on your degree basics your first two years and you might luck out with the area having engineering degrees. Good luck Victor!
@@AbleHammer what is the specific career that your son is in? What is it looking like as far as him finding work as a civilian? Is there any other advice you can give a young man as myself? Oh I would also like your opinion on staying where I am and going with a job that pays very well and offers the whole nine or go with the Air Force?
Anything flyer(wings on chest), and anything cyber/cyber operations. This is something that will grow, and is always a great option. I flew on AC-130Js for 3 years as a gunner when it was BRAND NEW, and I loved it! I suggest a flyer role if you make the criteria. If you do not, i suggest Cyber/IT/Medical options if you cannot become a flyer. It is a great opportunity/experience for all of the roles/fields I suggested.
Airfield Management was an amazing job I had for many years till I retired. That career field is responsible for the entire airport portion of the air force base to include flight planning and maintaining the runway and taxiways.
4NX1 Aerospace medical tech - IMO is a pretty sweet job, office hours depending on clinics you work at can be a peace of cake and a lot of cross train options out there.
@@sav7928 general this job can go almost anywhere. You get assigned a duty section. But someone I know got picked up to go to turkey after being at a base for a couple years. By selecting the overseas assignment.
@@feliciavilleda7084super late. Yes this job I haven’t done it or have super great info. But yes you can do something to apply to test for LPN without more schooling. Just don’t have the info more then that.
@@codyrojas7260I have flat feet but they don't cause any problems for me physically. I heard from people that disqualifies people but the internets answer is confusing. Also I have screw in my big toe from an accident 6 years ago but doesnt affect me either
What people should know is about Test Station and Components. There are not a lot of deployments over seas but great to transfer to civilian jobs and also allow you to get schooling as well. As a 2A0X1M myself I do stand by it.
2A0X1K here and I agree, deployments are rare.. base options are fairly good. I’m currently stuck at Cannon but could be worse. A/C controlled environment, not a ton of work load, leadership usually doesn’t notice what goes on in your shop “could be pro/con” depending on what you want out of your career.
@@arsenals781 not a bad shred lol. You guys have Korea still i believe they took that from us. But definitely right. We have to do a lot outside as far as volunteering for extra credit. We’re “behind the scenes”
I can see why ARM is your top choice. A guy at my base referred to the Wing CC by his first name because he handles the man's flying papers. I stand with TSgt Robertson, though, when he said in Sept 2019, "Security Forces is the best dang job in the Air Force." If you're looking for easy, chill, etc., the jobs listed are great. But if you're looking for adventure and character growth, Security Forces is the way to go.
I was an SP for 4 years and while I had "adventures" in Montana, Germany, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo, and Bosnia, I think it's a bit of exaggeration to say being a gate guard/cop builds character. lol.
@@swampfoxIX hard work (and yeah, it's simple, but standing vigilantly 12 hours a day is hard) will either make or brake you. If you have the right mindset, it'll make you.
Joining the AF for best living conditions, duty locations and most jobs convertible to civilian life is a smart move. Thinking about what job to do depends on your initial test. Higher scores grants better job possibilities. As First Shirt I always said we're all in the same boat, we just row at different times. Every job is important to accomplish the mission. I flew as a surveillance operator on AWACS for 15 years. I was assigned to NATO for 9 years and started my career in the Philippines. If you love to travel there are many flying positions. Went through survival school with stewardesses, load masters, flight engineers, coms operators, computer operators, radar operators...the list is long. Any flying position is paid extra for flight/hazardous duty pay. Look for a job that makes you happy. Life is short so enjoy and good luck with whatever job you decide on. If you joined the AF you made the best choice. I've been around them all.
I was an air traffic controller in the AF. Got out and got hired by the FAA and had a long and prosperous career. Joining the AF was the best decision I’ve ever made. However, get locked into your job before you go to basic! Otherwise, you may get stuck in something really shitty.
Air Traffic Control is one of the best kept secrets in the Air Force. The job is challenging and different every day. Plus it's an easy transition to civilian for great pay/benefits. My 2 cents.
@@TheToradora97 I'm actually really worried because I'm giving the FAAs next bid a chance for ATC (just finished my degree in ATC), if I don't get it I'm thinking about joining the USAF as an alternative. More exciting in my opinion.
Lol, I'm enlisted aircrew (1A9, Special Missions Aviator), and and everyone in ARM (HARM/SARM) can never get their isht together, our paperwork is always messed up. I have a lot of friends who are loadmasters though, and yeah, they absolutely love it
In our defense, y’all’s mission packages are completely f***** when you turn them in, if they were correct we wouldn’t have this problem (E-3 AWACS SARM Here)
are you an SMA with the reserve or active? im going into aeromedical evacuation as a 4N0 and it seems pretty cool but i was thinking ab maybe cross training to SMA
The grass is greener on the other side of the hill, I suffered from this badly when I was in the military also, every other job except your own is better...
If you get Loadmaster, aim for what used to be MAC, I think it’s AMC now. TAC does a lot of flying around the flagpole doing practice drops, rarely goes anywhere. I was a MAC loadmaster, 1966-‘68. C-141, good ride, made me deaf.
Telecommunications! Was a 30750 Tech. Controller and the skill sets plus a TS clearence lead me a a awesome 25 year career with a major Telcomm outfit. Made great pay , healthplan, and investement options. Not only that, I spent 4 years in Spain enjoying my time there. Would do it all over again!
@@thatdudefrom7118 That career field is no longer available due to the advancement of technology these days. If I was 19 again, I would look at the Space Force and try to get into the Cyber field. My one advice to you,...is to ensure whatever career field you choose, make sure did will translate to a civilian job market encase you do not make a military a full career.
i spent 3years as a communications center specialist. I hated it. Worked in a secure room in a large concrete building with no windows. 24-7 operation and was constantly changing shifts. Half the time was busy as heck, the other half was boring as heck.
I think you should have combined Loadmaster with Boom Operator, Flight Engineer, and AWACS crewman doing their various tasks. The pros and cons you shared could be said about all these jobs.
The first three of those four are semi-merged now/in the process of being so. Managed to snatch up the afsc for training in all three, insanely lucky for me and I'm grateful.
Good video. I cross trained from a Law Enforcement Specialist into ARMs for a while. I was at a C130 base so I got to work with a lot of Load Masters as well. As for pilots (Officers) like every group some are cool and others are not so not really a benefit working with them. It did put me in touch with a person who helped me become a First Sergeant which is in my opinion, the best job in the Air Force, but you have to be at least an E-7 to apply.
Was Power Production Specialist in late 1960s. Responsible for keeping power plants operating. Good job and transition to good job in civilization life. Lots of influence on remote areas because we kept the beer cold.
Ayeee let’s go Admin 🙌 (that’s what I reclassed into). Most days I sit around update slides and schedule meetings I also get off at 1500 three days a week. It won’t be the same for everyone because I’m actually in a double filled position because my base is full and I just need to learn my job. Side note: if you’re a new admin overseas you will basically work in a warehouse like an Amazon worker (overseas postal).
@@Gawdess_Sunnie unless you go to Alaska or Hawaii which the Air Force sees as overseas you’ll be doing postal bc we don’t have usps in foreign countries and so postal is an extension. I have friends in Korea Italy Germany the uk and Japan which all work postal. Overseas the CSS positions are manned by either e5 and above or civilians. Mostly civilians. Even most ncos that go overseas still get postal.
Retired after 20 years and started at E-1; Airman Basic. Regardless of your job, you make the career, your choices, your path. I had three different jobs and enjoyed each of them. I turned down E-8 because I decided to move on with my life and career. I went to college and left with a Masters Degree. That was my choice and path that I felt I would need post military. I had two successful careers after the Air Force.
#1 ICBM electronics Maintenance. It is a critical career field. All of your bases are CONUS, no deployments. Your certified under PRP to do maintenance without constant direct supervision. Each maintenance dispatch is to a different launch facility and usually involves a different task. Not boring. Excellent schedule control you know when you are working and when you are off. The training received is two year college level. The skills learned are very marketable in the civilian world. #2 Loadmaster I agree. I cross trained into that career field when I went into the reserves. Lots of travel lots of hours in the air on your own and on the ground on your own. Not a great job for married people.
Power Production is a great job inside the CE career field. The job isn’t very demanding all the time you mainly sit in a office and monitor generators all day. After you of course do your Daily inspection. Witch takes normally 30 minutes, then you have your weekly’s witch take about 30 minutes and the. Monthly etc not very demanding and the civilian side pays great money
Thank you for this, my recruiter recommended this AFSC, the reviews and Reddit comments are good too but no one has said what you have as far as work load and what to expect as far as schedule 👍
Public Affairs is not all the sunshine and rainbows everyone thinks it is. 0/10 do not recommend. Being interested in photo/video and doing it in your spare time is 100% different than doing it for the AF. The 'fun' stuff is only about 10% of the job. - Source: I'm Public Affairs
Missed firefighter. We get national certifications and can work anywhere when you get out. Many civilian firefighters join Air Force fire just to get the certs out academy provide 🤷♂️ highly sought after job
Currently in tech school for Cyber Transport (ID7X1A) and I’ve heard nothing but good things about it. Good hours, relaxed environment depending on your base, and incredible civilian marketability. TS clearance combined with other certs is extremely useful when trying to advertise yourself in that career field
Admin is a great job for someone who wants a day job with weekends off and who receives inside poop on what may be happening that affects all support and flight line people on base. The best civilian transition jobs could be air traffic control, computer specialist and accountants.
My dad was a KC-135 crew chief. With the 126th ARW Illinois Air National Guard. And he loved it! He traveled all over the world. He was a full time AGR. He did it for over 32 years. He retired as a S/MSGT. One of the guys told me that being a boom operator was the best job in the Air Force. He was active duty for 6 years. Got out. Didn't want to have anything with the Air Force. But one year later. He wanted back in. But didn't want to go active duty. So he joined the Air National Guard. Trained as a boom operator. He did ARM on active duty. But he wanted something different.
You weren't a Senior NCO or Section Supervisor. My last six years I spent as much time talking to Officers as Enlisted. I was a Jet Engine Mechanic and spent most of my career on the Flightline. Talking to Pilots and Maintainence Officers everyday. You always have to know whats going on all the time.
Thank you for this list! I am a single mom about to join up and was getting pretty frustrated with the run around whenever I would ask which jobs in the Air Force are the best for people with families or even for single parents. Especially since I don't have family so I will be relying on after school care to help with my daughter.
Good luck to you! I’m a new mom about to join the reserves , just finished my physical and all my testing background work but the easiest sounding job I was given on my list was traffic management. I’m wanting to do something like ARMs, either way , I’m claiming everything will work out smoothly for us, we got this!
I’m planning on going reserves and That’s one of the main jobs I want however I’m worried about the depth perception test since people say it can be challenging and lots fail. Also how hard is that math? I’m not too good in math but I can do it
Best job IN THE WORLD Air Force Fighter Pilot. Get a technical degree get your pilot’s license then join the Air Force. You won’t believe you get paid for doing that.
The difference between Admin & Maintenance jobs is that you'll more than likely have a better chance of service connection when you apply for disability benefits rather than in the Admin field....
I can confirm that NDI is a great career field after being In Pensacola for a few months in ASM seeing them graduate early and the amount of effort the job takes
I’m making my top 10 job list and I’m mostly putting stuff that can be used for marketability in the civilian word but I’m not sure if loadmaster is something that would do you any good in the civilian world, what exactly would being a loadmaster qualify you for in the civilian world, other than that I was really interested in the travel that comes with it
Hey! I have a question. Someone told me that doing this job might be unsafe and harmful for your health. I am assuming that this person didn’t know much about that by just wanted to know your opinion. Thanks!
@@sebastiankol8190 there are plenty of jobs that can be harmful to your health. You would be taught the proper ways of being safe and wearing appropriate PPE. The most harmful method of NDI would be X-Ray, but like I said, if you take the proper precautions you’ll be fine.
Is there a demand for this? I want to get into a field I do some NDI now but would be sweet to make a career out of it going active duty? Are you AD? What methods have you trained under and where are you stationed?
The benefit of being an AF firefighter for four years and then getting a municipal FF job is that nowadays (some,most) cities require minimum levels of education to be completed and paid for by you prior to employment, whereas I got the basic requirements taken care of while getting paid in the AF.
Alright my man. You forgot the best one. Basically any 1A career but in particular, 1A9 I’m a Huey 1A9. We are a mix of 3 1A careers. Loads, flight engineers and Ariel door gunners. I fly 2.5 hours and then go home. When I’m not flying I’m talking with my homies officers or not and go home at 3 every day. Amazing home work balance and get SDAP and obviously Flight pay you missed the ball not putting that one on man. Would also be more than happy to talk ab it with you!
How about Supply. I spent 9 years in that miserable, mind-numbing job. I applied to retrain into Loadmaster three times and I was accepted three times only to get slammed to the ground by AFMPC each time. They said I couldn't retrain because I was overseas critical and Southeast Asia critical. The only way I got out was to volunteer to be a MTI at Lackland for three years and then I retrained into AFOSI. I was with OSI for 12 years and it was fantastic. I didn't even own a uniform. I know we were supposed to have all our uniforms but why bother when I didn't wear one.
Sorry Kyle you didn't give the real #1 job, Contracting. Haven't heard one person, military or civilian, that hates it. Probably is one of the top jobs that transitions well out of the military. Best move of my career.
First thought should be "do I want risk and adventure" or something sane in the AF that is the same as in the civilian world and will be easy to slide into when my contract is up. Note that less then 15% ever manage to retire. Then realize that the AF is not interested in hiring dummies who the recruiters weed out quickly. A STEM degree from a decent university is there idea of a good starting place and you should have gone ROTC in school. Pararescue Jumper (PJ) is one of the meaningful risk and adventure slots for the very few with the right stuff. There are other similar AFSOC slots if say you plan to write a book like the Navy SEALS do. An AF job with an identical civilian position waiting for you are numerous in the medical field and other disciplines like Air Traffic Control. Always needed by the FAA for civilian control towers and ATC Center positions.
I was in PA. You really have to have the personality for it. It's slightly difficult to be in PA if you're an introvert. I crossed trained out. I had great supervisors but it just wasn't for me.
I work at a big cyber firm now on the business side but also have a tech side. However no college degree. 5 years of tech work though. What could I do to work in cyber for AF + would my previous experience outside the military be of any value to the them? I’m not interested for the money. Typically it sounds like people go to military cyber then transition to corp/civilian life but I’m interested in doing the opposite. Curious if anyone here might know
Services is a great job! You can get out and be a chef running a kitchen for maybe $50,000 a year if you’re lucky along with long hours, hard work, and a dog eat dog atmosphere. OR you can work as a wage grade cook in the federal service for even more money just working 8 hour days.
Cyber Warfare / Cyber Ops is the best career field IMO. You are involved in the biggest events going on in the world, and “in the fight” without being in actual danger, and you get a TS clearance and the most transferable skills out of any AFSC I can think of. There’s SSgts and TSgts separating and making 120K+ in the private sector working for Cyber companies like CrowdStrike.
Hi Ricardo, any chance we could talk about this specific field. I have a few questions
any chance we could talk more about this ricardo?
yup agree went into cyber ops with no knowledge and learned alot on the job during last two years i been in air force as a reservist. I can recommend anyone trying to retrain or enlist into cyber jobs is study comptia security + as it will make your time in tech school alot easier and is required to stay in this career field.
Exactly! I’m surprised he didn’t mention any jobs related to comm. I’m a cyber transport apprentice right now and I’ve learned so much about technology and etc while I’ve been in. Cyber jobs are the best jobs in the Air Force.
@@byrontrueax3780 ask me anything and I can try and answer!
Before I joined the Air Force, I put a lot of thought into what would transition to a great job when I retired. The reality is no matter how long you stay in the Air Force, it is over at 30 years so you will be out by the time you are 48. That's time to get in another great occupation before you really retire. I saw the Air Force as a training ground for what comes next. So, STEM was my focus in high school. The Air Force practically throws educational opportunities at you from day one. So, I wanted to get into a high technology field when I joined. My first was high reliability power systems. It placed me in a field that aligned with radar, radio, various communications fields, computers and networking, etc. I was able to spend my off hours getting a BS degree in electronics engineering. After 8 years, I cross trained into Air Traffic Control maintenance where I worked with various radar and radio as well as computer systems to track aircraft in flight. When I retired from the Air Force, I found a job at one of the National Laboratories working on R&D of the most advanced equipment on the planet. It's been quite a trip. I'm now close to retiring full time. My advice is to think way ahead of where you are now. What do you want your future to look like?
May I ask what job mos that was called?
what do you mean by “no matter how long - it is over at 30 years”
@@way437 it mean that you can't stay at air force for long.
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Good advice. Thank you.
1. Cyber ware fare (1B4)
2. Cyber Ops (1D7)
3. Any Intel career field
4. Loadmaster (for the travel)
5. NDI (they’re like doctors for jets😂)
Do you know if you need to be a citizen to do Cyber Ops?
Thnx bro
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@@sebastiankol8190 Of course you do. There's no way they'd give a non-citizen access to such critical information.
NDI are just that, they are not the "doctors" for jets. Metals tech are the doctors of jets because they actually fix the issues. #3 - I agree, Intel would be the most interesting career field. I am curious to know what career fields were created in the Space Force.
I'm Cyber Systems Operations, and it's a job I'd highly recommend. Not only do I find it fascinating working with technology and servers, the hours are amazing, the environment is relaxed (I have my very own desk working 9-4:30 M-F as E3), and the experience gained is incredible. You gain tons of high level civilian certs, such as Sec+ with your training, as well as a TS Security Clearance, where outside the military, companies will pay big bucks to hire you. Often 6 digit salaries right out of a 4 or 6 year enlistment. But it's a great job if you're looking into taking classes and going to college in the Air Force. Most of the time you can grind out your classes at work during down time, or work on additional certifications. On top of that, we're significantly undermanned mainly because there's no way for the Air Force to compete financially with non-government companies paying so much more. So it's an easy job to get, and it's a really good job if you plan to stay in and retire because of bonuses, and more opportunities for SSgt+, but it's also good for those wanting to do one contract and get out. It's a good job for anyone pretty much. There are many upcoming signup bonuses, and reenlistment bonuses coming as well.
So I highly recommend 1D7X1B (previously 3D0X2), or really any 1D7 jobs. We need more people, and it's an INCREDIBLE job! I'm biased, but I wouldn't recommend it at all if I really didn't enjoy it.
Hey I’m at looking into getting this job or something similar technology wise. Is it a difficult job to get? I heard you don’t always get your first pick at your job, but I really hope this is the one that I can get
@@dogebats4253 The career field is very undermanned. So if you put it in your top jobs, it's very likely to be picked. It's all based on what the Air Force wants, and they really want 1D7 personnel. Obviously, it's not a guarantee. But I would say there's a better chance you'd get it than not :D I just went to a meeting where they talked about assignments, and they were saying "we need people!" so they'll try to snag you up real quick.
I also wanted cyber system op but was put to cyber transport instead. However, I heard cyber transport is pretty cool too so ig it is what it is. Shipping in about 3 weeks.
@@HT-jz3im I don't know too much about Cyber Transport, but I think you'll be doing a lot more hands on. Which is amazing. Cyber Systems does a lot of remote desktop, and we never really go out to fix things, where you'll be dealing with actual hardware. Which is incredibly valuable, and can really be useful even in day to day life! Best of luck at basic and tech school! Congrats on the job!
I leave for this may 23rd
C-17 loadmaster of 7 years - No complaints and 52 countries
Really want this job, unfortunately my recruiter told me it’s pretty much impossible for me to get, said they’ve had one out of their office in 15 years….
@@konnerharris9821 Yup.
@konnerharris9821 my recruiters office never had a loadmaster and I somehow booked it, had to be dropped due to a medical issue and booked it again a year later. I leave April 25th lol
@@unionpepe7864 how do you like it so far? I would like to do it
Air traffic control wasnt bad
I was an air traffic control radar tech for nine years, great job. With training I received I was hired by the FAA and retired with 40 years of federal service.
The best job in the AF!
Kyle's list is solid. My opinion, in any military job, it's what YOU make of it. I have been in the AF for 6 years and ANG for 16 years (Navigator, Medical), and it's really your attitude that makes the difference. Having said that, in the AF, flying jobs (load master, boom operator) are probably the best if you can handle being away from home like Kyle said. I would also recommend looking into Air Traffic Control. This is a very important career field that is applicable in the civilian side. But it's fairly high tempo and stress because your actions will affect safety of aircraft.
U also need great eyesight without corrective lenses, tho I got this from a quick Google search
I was Security Specialist and not Law Enforcement. I retired as a recruiter. I worked nights and got my degree in Criminal Justice and Human Resources Management. After retirement I became a Deputy Sheriff and retired as a Police Sergeant. I took a much needed year off from being an SP and LEO. I decided to go back to work and now I work in Human Resources Specialist for the Veteran Affairs.
You get what you put into the Air Force. My USAF sacrifices are 7 deployments to the sandbox, 3 to Central America and a few Team Spirit, REFORGER, Giant Sword, Olympic Arena, and Peacekeeper Challenge competitions. I am old but can still pass a USAF pt test any day of the week.
question, what is the difference between security specialist and law enforcement in the air force?
First off… security specialist is security forces. There is two types of security forces which is Law Enforcement and physical security. LE actual does patrols around the base like a normal cop does in parishes or counties. Physical security is guarding Protection level resources aka like guarding nuclear weapons.
@@bigfun7372 April of '92, I asked my recruiter that very question; his answer was one is a security guard and the other a police officer.
HR for veterans was actually my dream job. I joined in 1986 and was LE for the first 10 years. Ended up retiring after 21 years as a First Sergeant. Also had earned two CCAF degrees in Criminal Justice and Human Resources Management and after I retired earned a bachelors in Organizational Management. I currently work as a federal contractor managing Passport Production for the state dept.
Rank is easier in security and your job is far more important. Old saying: LE is important but security will get you fired and nukes (security) will get you put in prison. If you screw up that is.@@bigfun7372
Hey Kyle, just wanting to send out positive vibes to you. You helped me so much in my decision to join the air force. I can now say several years in I have no regrets and am enjoying every minute of it. I wish only the best for you and your future.
been thinking about joining since i was 18. 22 now and i'm still having doubts
@@FabiosZen I joined at 22. I say if you're still interested even just a little bit, talk to a recruiter even if it's just to get basic information
what was yr job ? or specialty. gunna look into it
@@FabiosZenhow are you doing at 23?
@@Heaven4Kay 😭💀
I was enlisted and then became an officer. But when I was enlisted, I was a computer programmer. I think that the work-life balance is there, the career training is there, and the opportunities after the Air Force are there. You also get to program on aircraft avionics, intelligence systems, communications systems, office automation, base level data processing, etc. so you feel like your job is important.
are you able to become an officer within 2 years if you already have a bachelors but enlist first?
@@dirkbuchanan9883 You need to talk to a recruiter but there are a list of degrees that the Air Force considers for the Officer Corp and the others who still want to join the AF might have to go as enlisted. I personally, knew many enlisted with Bachelor's Degrees but they were not the right ones.
@@TheRoadwarrior1967 How long did it take you to make officer? I'm assuming you got your bachelors degree through the Air Force Community College..
That's a good point Peter, I am a P.E. and have a master degree in Civil Engineering, I am going as enlisted (AF reserves) since the path to become an office would take longer and I am on the age limit. I was wondering how is the process to become an officer after you enlist (for those who qualify).
@@luisnunes3758 I didn't use the specialized programs to obtain my Bachelor's degree while pursuing opportunities to become an officer. The AF had programs like Palace Chase and a few others back in the early 1990s but I didn't use them. I completed my Bachelor's degree in the Spring of 1992 which was about 6.5 years time in service as enlisted. I did CLEP for many of my units. I had to have my unit commander's endorsement for my application for Officer Training School. I think degrees with engineering backgrounds or maybe healthcare or legal have very few problems with their applications but for Bachelor's degrees in like History or English, or Business Administration, that would have been a problem. I had a Management Information Systems degree and prior enlisted experience in the computer field. I think the only real issue was that you couldn't be older than 39 to apply for OTS back then.
ADMIN ROCKS, I got to TDY @ THE PENTAGON. My supervisor for 6 yrs was a Major in control of Finance.
I flew as an Aeromedical evacuation technician in the reserve for 30 years until retirement. The best job I saw for an enlisted man is close to Loadmaster. It was the 'Boom Operator'. Flying on a KC 135, the boom operator works the refueling boom to refuel aircraft while flying. While sitting in the rear of the plane, he manipulates the refueling arm, (hose) to couple up with other aircraft to transfer fuel. You stay with the plane and are deployed all over the world in advance of ongoing missions. Your off time is where you land, often away from your home base, in other states and other countries. As member of the flight crew, your treatment by 'host' bases or countries is usually better than the regular troops. Worth looking into.... Good luck
Unfortunately, with reorganisation of CEAs, it seems like aircrew jobs like loadmaster and boom operator are going to be closed to retrainees. I’ve wanted to crosstrain into it, but as it stands with the divestment of airframes, it just won’t happen for me or for a lot of people for a while
as a retired KC-135 & KC-10 boom operator, i totally agree about it being the best job.
@@MrGoodnplenty1957but what about civilian work after?
Firefighter. It’s day camp for 20-something’s. Plus, you get the “hero-worship” of a first responder. You work a 24 on, 24 off schedule with one shift off every other week (you’re assigned the same day) which gives you a 3 day weekend. I never had to use my leave. We had no officers at the fire station as we’re pretty much enlisted/civilian run. We had no use for officers as they tend to get in the way. We were assigned to CE for our squadron needs and rarely saw any of our officers/first shirt. By the time I left the AF, our station had all the comforts of home: giant screen TVs, lazy boy recliners in the day room, semi-private sleeping quarters, a jacuzzi and sauna imported from Europe and so many other comforts it generated a sh!t storm of complaints. We were able to do all this as we’d been voted best fire department in SAC and they kindly dumped cash on us as a reward. Sadly, Castle AFB closed in ‘95(?) and the fire station was given to Merced County.
ive just enlisted as a 2A551, airlift/special mission maintenance. It's not gonna be glamourous as an admin, desk job, but as a future reservist, who is using it as a stepping stone to get me into the airlines, I ain't complaining
I was a Machinist in the USAF. Great job, I volunteered for the 3-11 shift. Best part was I only had stay out of site for a couple of hours and after that I was completely left alone with no old puke lifers hassling me. I built a chopper and a custom rifle on a 98 Mauser action on duty using. I had access to all of the Field Maintenance Shops. The shops were the world's best hobby shops. Being a night worker I had a room to myself and a sign on the outside of the door saying day sleeper, I had very few inspections of my room.
Sounds like you did a great job serving yourself while serving your country.
Nothing wrong with taking advantage of unused facilities and available downtime while on duty, however, it sounds as if FMS was overmanned in some areas which was not uncommon in my day. However today, that may not be the case since the military in general is undermanned by several thousand, thanks to the civilian misuse and mismanagement of the military over the last 20+ years.
50 years ago I joined the air force. I was an Avionics Tech on the F-111. Awesome job. Out on the flightline fixing and launching airplanes. day or night
Me too, but I started out on f-15s 35 years ago, then crosstrained on 111s. I was C Shop.
Thank you Kyle for putting the work! I do personally beleive it's very subjective to what each person traits and likes/dislikes ...ex. indoor jobs vs outdoor, office vs. Field, travel vs. Stationary ... dealing with people vs. Dealing with machines.
I myself am a tech persona but I still want to talk to people ^_^ and I am v creative but I am not in video and photography ... I love traveling alot but I also enjoy being in an office sometimes working on a pc ... so I think I can never come with top 5 as my list might be top 1000 😁...
Thank you again for the huge effort and value you and Mckenna provide through this channel.
I went in as a Law Enforcement Specialist (now Security Forces) back in 86. Not what some people would consider one of the best jobs. But I really would not have wanted to do anything else and it directly led to my civilian LE career (Criminal Investigator, USMS). So, if you are young please watch these videos, get as much information as you can without overwhelming yourself, but don’t let them dissuade you from doing something that is right for you.
I am going to MEPS tomorrow and was actually excited to be choosing Security Forces as I wanna go into law enforcement after I get out but I am seeing and reading a lot of negative comments about it and it’s a little disheartening
I was in the old Security Police. We did both le and security depending on the base and mission. I was le in Korea when they split the afc and I returned stateside to a sac detachment with b-52's. I was ssgt at the time and ended my tour as storage site supervisor. Yes it was a long long time ago.
I worked 7:30 to 4:30 in logistics in the Air Force for 20 years, the supply guy. I had a blast. I worked for a maintenance unit in Vegas for 2 years. They had to work on jets in 110 degree Vegas summer which was about 120 degrees on the flight line while I chilled in my office with the AC cranked up. All I did was order parts and maintain inventory. Everyone needs a supply guy so I was able to work several different jobs so it was great.
What was the afqt score required for that?
@@NicoleBermz The Air Force Specialty Code or ASFC is 2S0X1
Does this job transfer well into civilian?
@@nena_366 Yes, very well. Almost every company needs someone to get them their supplies. I walked right into a management job with the state of California and all I had on my resume was 20 years experience in the AF without any college degree. The AF paid for all my supervisory/management training and that's what qualified me to be a manager at my current position. I also had several fed job offers. One was for a facility manager and another was for a unit deployment manager. I volunteered for both those positions because I wanted to be able to put them on my resume when I retired so if you're in the AF volunteer for anything that will qualify you to get a job when you retire or get out because you want to have as many options as possible. I took the state job because the retirement with the state is way better than a fed retirement.
I was a Material Facilities Specialist (Supply) 83-87 back then..Cool job/great coworkers ✈️
If I could go back and do it over again, I would’ve picked biomedical equipment maintenance journeyman. Apparently on the civilian side you make a lot of money fixing medical equipment. Plus, the people that work in the Air Force they do that job, stay relatively clean and they get to eat a chow at a normal time and hour.
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So far I have been in for 6 years and have been ARMS for the whole time. I absolutely love it working with the pilots. I would recommend this career field to everyone
Where are you station at?
@@javanmartinez9624 I was at Holloman AFB for 5 years but now am at Duke AFS
@@kevinschannel5113 oh great I want to be station at Florida, Im from Puerto Rico and Florida is the only state that I had visited and I love it.
@@javanmartinez9624 o yea I love it here definitely a good base to be at. I’m from Florida so it’s nice to be back after so long
@@kevinschannel5113 What do you think about the CCAF of aviation management is it worth it?? Before joining i was studying business admi I have 49 credits of college.
The 5 best jobs in the Air Force according to Airman Vision
1. Aviation Resource Management
2. Public Affairs
3. Load Master (if you're single and love travel... this is gucci!)
4. NDI
5. Administration (CSS)
I’m a reserve loadmaster. It’s good if you have a family and you choose where you fly in the world.
I’m admin and I love it
As a load. Yes
CSS has training every Friday but will still mess people paperwork 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@lombestube962 that’s unit by unit in unit we don’t have that many training days
Being a fiefighter is pretty chill, badass, and every fire department outside of the military will take you without question
I’m getting ready at 13 years old so I know I’m ready when my time comes to serve
If you can get into 1D7X1A-Network Systems, 1D7x1B-Systems Operations or 1D7x1D-Network Security Operations, you can be setup for a great paying job on the outside. I'm an Operations Superintendent with a Guard Combat Communications unit and I have SEVERAL SrA-MSgts in my flight who make $150K+ in their civilian careers and drill with us on the weekends. A Security Clearance and a Security+ certification (that you have to pass in Tech School) can open a lot of doors for you.
I’m leaving June 7th for 1D7x1D, this is encouraging!
Any study asvab tips to get a job like that?
Are they all top secret clearances!? I'm already in 4 years looking to xtrain but i am not excited about the top secret clearance process lol
does this include allot of math skills?
I was Public Affairs for 11 years. Made it to Tsgt (tough career field to get proved in). However, they sent me to law school. Retired as 0-4. The background was part of why I was selected. It is a great, great career field.
Do they care what university you attend
@@Iammarlonbrown No.
I was looking at public affairs positions as well, I currently have a Bachelors in Political science and History. Also, military experience in the Finnish army. I was wondering what kind of qualifications are required for this job?
I was pretty surprised to hear you pick ARM as top of the list. I was in service for 25 years with my first 4 on that job. We just called it Resource Management way back in 1986, but it was excessively cool. My time was at a pilot training squadron, so we had about 80 officers with another 120 student pilots who are also officers along with us 6 enlisted guys/gals. Actually got to fly three times during my four years and I did the flying... After takeoff of course. It was a very cool job indeed. Except birthdays or promotions because that meant the dunk tank. A bunch of pilots pick you up and toss you into a huge tank of water outside. Bring a dry uniform if you had any kind of celebration hahaha
Cool
current loadmaster, sums it good im a single guy no family, travel a lot and fly alot no set hour perfect job for the younger single airmen
What was the prices getting into load master if you don’t mind answering. Thank you so much!!
@@luck2542 you get the same pay depending on your rank where it changes is your incentives for example i get flight pay which is an extra 225 a month
yes you get to fly but are you given time to explore the places you travel to
Idk about other Admins, but as an Admin in the AF I’ve been working longer hours than my MX friends. We Admin and personnel take our work home. When covid hits, everyone was off while we actually worked. When you are in maintenance or any job that requires you to work on site, once you go home you are off. Admins unfortunately don’t stop, sometimes we work from home on weekends or leave. And if we leave early it’s normally due to a function which btw hinders our work and makes us work longer hours the next day. I’m not complaining at all, I just wanted to bring some light to the reality of admins/CSS personnel. Good career field but it is a very thankless job.
Currently Reserve Paralegal; however, prior AD Admin. Your description is spot on...especially that part about being expected to work from home.
As a paralegal, seems like maintainers and defenders are the reason I'm in the office late due to them doing something dumb and I get stuck processing their article 15 or court-martial paperwork.
I was a aircraft maintenance specialist (crew chief) I did enjoy my time working on the planes. It was a dirty job. Any job working on the planes you will get dirty. Got to agree with your top 5 jobs. Aircraft Maintenance people had to work in all weather conditions , all types of hours and sometimes weeks at a time. Got to give it to Navy people when it comes to hours and weeks at time working on those aircraft carriers. God bless you Navy personnel for a fine job.
That include avionics or just mech?
I was a power lineman in CE. But in that job over 23 years I did many different jobs. After 12 years I became an electrical planner. Planned jobs. I then did a special duty, FM Facility Maintenance in the ICBM missile field. I then went and became a zonal superintendent at Patrick AFB for all the facilities. My last base in Alaska I worked SABER. Basically contract management of contractors.
My son now a tech is a machinist/welder in maintenance. EMS. He loves it. Going PCS to Yokota Japan in a month.
Could you enlighten me more on your sons career? I’m currently a civilian and looking to join the AF and my current background is in industrial maintenance, machining and welding. Your sons career sounds very interesting and eventually I’d want to get my bachelors in electrical or mechanical engineering.
Thank you for your time.
@@victorlara9929 btw once you’re done with training and get your 5 level all bases have an excellent educational building with several universities and colleges where you can start on your degree basics your first two years and you might luck out with the area having engineering degrees. Good luck Victor!
@@AbleHammer could we chat over email?
@@victorlara9929 let’s chat here that way everyone can learn 👍
@@AbleHammer what is the specific career that your son is in? What is it looking like as far as him finding work as a civilian? Is there any other advice you can give a young man as myself? Oh I would also like your opinion on staying where I am and going with a job that pays very well and offers the whole nine or go with the Air Force?
Anything flyer(wings on chest), and anything cyber/cyber operations. This is something that will grow, and is always a great option. I flew on AC-130Js for 3 years as a gunner when it was BRAND NEW, and I loved it! I suggest a flyer role if you make the criteria. If you do not, i suggest Cyber/IT/Medical options if you cannot become a flyer. It is a great opportunity/experience for all of the roles/fields I suggested.
Weather is a hidden gem 💎
I’m interested in weather, any tips? 💘
Airfield Management was an amazing job I had for many years till I retired. That career field is responsible for the entire airport portion of the air force base to include flight planning and maintaining the runway and taxiways.
Working with CE to maintain the runway...
4NX1 Aerospace medical tech - IMO is a pretty sweet job, office hours depending on clinics you work at can be a peace of cake and a lot of cross train options out there.
I’m currently in tech school to be a 4N31
May I ask how was the schooling and are you able to apply to become an LPN in the civilian world
Is there traveling with this job?
@@sav7928 general this job can go almost anywhere. You get assigned a duty section. But someone I know got picked up to go to turkey after being at a base for a couple years. By selecting the overseas assignment.
@@feliciavilleda7084super late. Yes this job I haven’t done it or have super great info. But yes you can do something to apply to test for LPN without more schooling. Just don’t have the info more then that.
I was a flight attendant in the Air Force. THAT was a gem job
@Cody Rojas What did you do?
Is there still a height requirement? I'm 5'0"
@@christinagallegos5006 possibly. But their are waivers for everything
@@codyrojas7260I have flat feet but they don't cause any problems for me physically. I heard from people that disqualifies people but the internets answer is confusing. Also I have screw in my big toe from an accident 6 years ago but doesnt affect me either
That’s the job I really want to go for. Is it hard to get
What people should know is about Test Station and Components. There are not a lot of deployments over seas but great to transfer to civilian jobs and also allow you to get schooling as well. As a 2A0X1M myself I do stand by it.
2A0X1K here and I agree, deployments are rare.. base options are fairly good. I’m currently stuck at Cannon but could be worse. A/C controlled environment, not a ton of work load, leadership usually doesn’t notice what goes on in your shop “could be pro/con” depending on what you want out of your career.
@@arsenals781 not a bad shred lol. You guys have Korea still i believe they took that from us. But definitely right. We have to do a lot outside as far as volunteering for extra credit. We’re “behind the scenes”
Such great info and insight into some of the best career options available for future Airmen! Very interesting! -Mike
I'm loving these Top 5 lists. They're awesome, just like you
I can see why ARM is your top choice. A guy at my base referred to the Wing CC by his first name because he handles the man's flying papers. I stand with TSgt Robertson, though, when he said in Sept 2019, "Security Forces is the best dang job in the Air Force." If you're looking for easy, chill, etc., the jobs listed are great. But if you're looking for adventure and character growth, Security Forces is the way to go.
I was an SP for 4 years and while I had "adventures" in Montana, Germany, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo, and Bosnia, I think it's a bit of exaggeration to say being a gate guard/cop builds character. lol.
security forces is one of the worst jobs in the AF
@@swampfoxIX hard work (and yeah, it's simple, but standing vigilantly 12 hours a day is hard) will either make or brake you. If you have the right mindset, it'll make you.
@@robertkurschat9808break*
Joining the AF for best living conditions, duty locations and most jobs convertible to civilian life is a smart move. Thinking about what job to do depends on your initial test. Higher scores grants better job possibilities. As First Shirt I always said we're all in the same boat, we just row at different times. Every job is important to accomplish the mission. I flew as a surveillance operator on AWACS for 15 years. I was assigned to NATO for 9 years and started my career in the Philippines. If you love to travel there are many flying positions. Went through survival school with stewardesses, load masters, flight engineers, coms operators, computer operators, radar operators...the list is long. Any flying position is paid extra for flight/hazardous duty pay. Look for a job that makes you happy. Life is short so enjoy and good luck with whatever job you decide on. If you joined the AF you made the best choice. I've been around them all.
I was an air traffic controller in the AF. Got out and got hired by the FAA and had a long and prosperous career. Joining the AF was the best decision I’ve ever made. However, get locked into your job before you go to basic! Otherwise, you may get stuck in something really shitty.
Air Traffic Control is one of the best kept secrets in the Air Force. The job is challenging and different every day. Plus it's an easy transition to civilian for great pay/benefits. My 2 cents.
I've heard it's mad stressful and has one of the highest suicide rates of any career field
@@TheToradora97 I'm actually really worried because I'm giving the FAAs next bid a chance for ATC (just finished my degree in ATC), if I don't get it I'm thinking about joining the USAF as an alternative. More exciting in my opinion.
I’m trying to get in air traffic control rn but there aren’t any jobs 😞
Currently in the af, I’m approaching my retraining window and I’ve been interested in retraining to ATC. Any tips/ ideas ?
I'm currently an air traffic controller in the air force with 9 years of experience if anyone has questions.
Lol, I'm enlisted aircrew (1A9, Special Missions Aviator), and and everyone in ARM (HARM/SARM) can never get their isht together, our paperwork is always messed up. I have a lot of friends who are loadmasters though, and yeah, they absolutely love it
In our defense, y’all’s mission packages are completely f***** when you turn them in, if they were correct we wouldn’t have this problem (E-3 AWACS SARM Here)
@@jaysmoove1220 are you @ tinker?
are you an SMA with the reserve or active? im going into aeromedical evacuation as a 4N0 and it seems pretty cool but i was thinking ab maybe cross training to SMA
I love y’all’s videos!! It really helped my process with joining the Air Force national guard!
Do you like the air guard so far?
The grass is greener on the other side of the hill, I suffered from this badly when I was in the military also, every other job except your own is better...
Ohhh loadmaster really catches my eye. I previously wanted to do broadcast journalism but the travel aspect to loadmaster sounds great.
extremely hard to get active duty
@@user-xz1wy4to4o I ended up getting a really good job outside of the military so I didn’t need to join anyway
If you get Loadmaster, aim for what used to be MAC, I think it’s AMC now. TAC does a lot of flying around the flagpole doing practice drops, rarely goes anywhere. I was a MAC loadmaster, 1966-‘68. C-141, good ride, made me deaf.
@@harleyb.birdwhisperer I didn’t join. I have a good career now instead
Telecommunications! Was a 30750 Tech. Controller and the skill sets plus a TS clearence lead me a a awesome 25 year career
with a major Telcomm outfit. Made great pay , healthplan, and investement options. Not only that, I spent 4 years in Spain enjoying
my time there. Would do it all over again!
What does that job entail? (I’m 17 with no idea what I want to do)
@@thatdudefrom7118 That career field is no longer available due to the advancement of technology these days. If I was 19 again, I would look at the Space Force and try to get into the Cyber field. My one advice to you,...is to ensure whatever career field you choose, make sure did will translate to a civilian job market encase you do not make a military a full career.
i spent 3years as a communications center specialist. I hated it. Worked in a secure room in a large concrete building with no windows. 24-7 operation and was constantly changing shifts. Half the time was busy as heck, the other half was boring as heck.
I think you should have combined Loadmaster with Boom Operator, Flight Engineer, and AWACS crewman doing their various tasks. The pros and cons you shared could be said about all these jobs.
The first three of those four are semi-merged now/in the process of being so. Managed to snatch up the afsc for training in all three, insanely lucky for me and I'm grateful.
Good video. I cross trained from a Law Enforcement Specialist into ARMs for a while. I was at a C130 base so I got to work with a lot of Load Masters as well. As for pilots (Officers) like every group some are cool and others are not so not really a benefit working with them. It did put me in touch with a person who helped me become a First Sergeant which is in my opinion, the best job in the Air Force, but you have to be at least an E-7 to apply.
Was Power Production Specialist in late 1960s. Responsible for keeping power plants operating. Good job and transition to good job in civilization life. Lots of influence on remote areas because we kept the beer cold.
So cool to hear ARM highlights. My son is in boot camp and that is his career field.
I was a broadcast journalist in the Air Force for a little over 10 years and it was an amazing experience. 💯
Ayeee let’s go Admin 🙌 (that’s what I reclassed into). Most days I sit around update slides and schedule meetings I also get off at 1500 three days a week. It won’t be the same for everyone because I’m actually in a double filled position because my base is full and I just need to learn my job. Side note: if you’re a new admin overseas you will basically work in a warehouse like an Amazon worker (overseas postal).
I got admin and leaving soon. I was thinking about putting overseas is it really like an Amazon warehouse?
@@Gawdess_Sunnie as a new admin overseas with out a doubt you will exclusively work postal.
@@stilljt2864 oh okay how do you know it’s postal at every overseas base?
@@Gawdess_Sunnie unless you go to Alaska or Hawaii which the Air Force sees as overseas you’ll be doing postal bc we don’t have usps in foreign countries and so postal is an extension. I have friends in Korea Italy Germany the uk and Japan which all work postal. Overseas the CSS positions are manned by either e5 and above or civilians. Mostly civilians. Even most ncos that go overseas still get postal.
@@stilljt2864 I want my first station to be overseas just not sure where yet but thanks for the information 😊
1 public affairs
2 weather
3 Base Safety
4 Services
5 MPF
(Dsd)
Dorm manager
Courier
Facility manager
Retired after 20 years and started at E-1; Airman Basic. Regardless of your job, you make the career, your choices, your path. I had three different jobs and enjoyed each of them. I turned down E-8 because I decided to move on with my life and career. I went to college and left with a Masters Degree. That was my choice and path that I felt I would need post military. I had two successful careers after the Air Force.
#1 ICBM electronics Maintenance. It is a critical career field. All of your bases are CONUS, no deployments. Your certified under PRP to do maintenance without constant direct supervision. Each maintenance dispatch is to a different launch facility and usually involves a different task. Not boring. Excellent schedule control you know when you are working and when you are off. The training received is two year college level. The skills learned are very marketable in the civilian world.
#2 Loadmaster I agree. I cross trained into that career field when I went into the reserves. Lots of travel lots of hours in the air on your own and on the ground on your own. Not a great job for married people.
Power Production is a great job inside the CE career field. The job isn’t very demanding all the time you mainly sit in a office and monitor generators all day. After you of course do your Daily inspection. Witch takes normally 30 minutes, then you have your weekly’s witch take about 30 minutes and the. Monthly etc not very demanding and the civilian side pays great money
Thank you for this, my recruiter recommended this AFSC, the reviews and Reddit comments are good too but no one has said what you have as far as work load and what to expect as far as schedule 👍
You should include whether or not a job transfers to the civilian world in your job videos
Fire protection hands down top 3. Currently serving in this career field and have been for the last few years
What’s the biggest pros and cons for the job?
Public Affairs is not all the sunshine and rainbows everyone thinks it is. 0/10 do not recommend. Being interested in photo/video and doing it in your spare time is 100% different than doing it for the AF. The 'fun' stuff is only about 10% of the job. - Source: I'm Public Affairs
Missed firefighter. We get national certifications and can work anywhere when you get out. Many civilian firefighters join Air Force fire just to get the certs out academy provide 🤷♂️ highly sought after job
Currently in tech school for Cyber Transport (ID7X1A) and I’ve heard nothing but good things about it. Good hours, relaxed environment depending on your base, and incredible civilian marketability. TS clearance combined with other certs is extremely useful when trying to advertise yourself in that career field
I'm admin right now currently deployed to the UAE and I'm studying for sec+ so I can cross train. It's a great field with a lot of room for growth.
So now that you’ve been on the field, how do you feel abt the mos? Could you tell me what it’s like? Are the hours manejable ?
Admin is a great job for someone who wants a day job with weekends off and who receives inside poop on what may be happening that affects all support and flight line people on base. The best civilian transition jobs could be air traffic control, computer specialist and accountants.
Top 3 is, fighter pilot, a PJ, and a TACP in my opinion
My dad was a KC-135 crew chief. With the 126th ARW Illinois Air National Guard. And he loved it! He traveled all over the world. He was a full time AGR. He did it for over 32 years. He retired as a S/MSGT.
One of the guys told me that being a boom operator was the best job in the Air Force. He was active duty for 6 years. Got out. Didn't want to have anything with the Air Force. But one year later. He wanted back in. But didn't want to go active duty. So he joined the Air National Guard. Trained as a boom operator. He did ARM on active duty. But he wanted something different.
Boom #1
Always liked that the experience driving military vehicles transfers to obtaining a CDL once your a civilian.
You weren't a Senior NCO or Section Supervisor. My last six years I spent as much time talking to Officers as Enlisted. I was a Jet Engine Mechanic and spent most of my career on the Flightline. Talking to Pilots and Maintainence Officers everyday. You always have to know whats going on all the time.
Thank you for this list! I am a single mom about to join up and was getting pretty frustrated with the run around whenever I would ask which jobs in the Air Force are the best for people with families or even for single parents. Especially since I don't have family so I will be relying on after school care to help with my daughter.
Wat ideas do u have?
Any job that's Monday through Friday without shift work
Good luck to you! I’m a new mom about to join the reserves , just finished my physical and all my testing background work but the easiest sounding job I was given on my list was traffic management. I’m wanting to do something like ARMs, either way , I’m claiming everything will work out smoothly for us, we got this!
hey which job did you choose? i'm also in your exact situation
@rachelgosine4757 They didn't let me in. Said that I had a history of asthma when I was 11 so I got disqualified!
Former C-17 Load here, definitely one the best enlisted jobs in the USAF.
I’m planning on going reserves and That’s one of the main jobs I want however I’m worried about the depth perception test since people say it can be challenging and lots fail. Also how hard is that math? I’m not too good in math but I can do it
Best job IN THE WORLD Air Force Fighter Pilot. Get a technical degree get your pilot’s license then join the Air Force. You won’t believe you get paid for doing that.
This is exactly what I am hoping to do.
What is a technical degree
The difference between Admin & Maintenance jobs is that you'll more than likely have a better chance of service connection when you apply for disability benefits rather than in the Admin field....
In other words, you’re more likely to get hurt in MX. not sure if that’s a good thing. I processed VA claims after the Air Force.
I can confirm that NDI is a great career field after being In Pensacola for a few months in ASM seeing them graduate early and the amount of effort the job takes
You still in Pensacola?
Material Facilities Specialist (SUPPLY SQUAD) in ‘83-89.. Great job,great staff,super co workers and it was a total blast ,back then anyways!!!
I’m making my top 10 job list and I’m mostly putting stuff that can be used for marketability in the civilian word but I’m not sure if loadmaster is something that would do you any good in the civilian world, what exactly would being a loadmaster qualify you for in the civilian world, other than that I was really interested in the travel that comes with it
I’m NDI,
It’s pretty cool. Civilian opportunities are up there too. Lot of learning to be able to “not do it”
Hey man , I’m thinking of cross training into the career field . I’d like to get some info from you
Hey!
I have a question.
Someone told me that doing this job might be unsafe and harmful for your health.
I am assuming that this person didn’t know much about that by just wanted to know your opinion.
Thanks!
@@sebastiankol8190 there are plenty of jobs that can be harmful to your health. You would be taught the proper ways of being safe and wearing appropriate PPE. The most harmful method of NDI would be X-Ray, but like I said, if you take the proper precautions you’ll be fine.
Is there a demand for this? I want to get into a field I do some NDI now but would be sweet to make a career out of it going active duty? Are you AD? What methods have you trained under and where are you stationed?
Admin people don't do jack daniels, they go in late, leave early and have extra days off.
spent 8 years as a military police officer in the air force!! after discharge, spent 35 years in sworn law enforcement!! retired in 2021!!!!!
Yo Kyle, welcome back to Vegas. Thoughts on doing a livestream podcast format with a panel & guests?
Just remember with Admin jobs, you will be "chained" to your desk inside all day. Not good if you like to be mobile in your job.
Until you're hit up to pull SF Augmentee or Postal support...
Dental assistant gotta be top 10
The benefit of being an AF firefighter for four years and then getting a municipal FF job is that nowadays (some,most) cities require minimum levels of education to be completed and paid for by you prior to employment, whereas I got the basic requirements taken care of while getting paid in the AF.
I’m leaving June 21st for Air Trans very excited.
I'm currently in air trans. It's a great job!!!!
Alright my man. You forgot the best one. Basically any 1A career but in particular, 1A9 I’m a Huey 1A9. We are a mix of 3 1A careers. Loads, flight engineers and Ariel door gunners. I fly 2.5 hours and then go home. When I’m not flying I’m talking with my homies officers or not and go home at 3 every day. Amazing home work balance and get SDAP and obviously Flight pay you missed the ball not putting that one on man. Would also be more than happy to talk ab it with you!
How did you get this job? This is my #1
Crew Chief here 👋 love it
How about Supply. I spent 9 years in that miserable, mind-numbing job. I applied to retrain into Loadmaster three times and I was accepted three times only to get slammed to the ground by AFMPC each time. They said I couldn't retrain because I was overseas critical and Southeast Asia critical. The only way I got out was to volunteer to be a MTI at Lackland for three years and then I retrained into AFOSI. I was with OSI for 12 years and it was fantastic. I didn't even own a uniform. I know we were supposed to have all our uniforms but why bother when I didn't wear one.
Sorry Kyle you didn't give the real #1 job, Contracting. Haven't heard one person, military or civilian, that hates it. Probably is one of the top jobs that transitions well out of the military. Best move of my career.
I've heard amazing things about contracting. I have a friend who does that job and they love it. Lots of money outside as well.
@@oHeihei I really enjoy it. The career is very broad. It's always something to learn, whether you've been doing it for years or if you're brand new.
@@30jersey478 Oh sick, so there’s always something new to do or learn. Keeps things fresh. Yeh, those types are jobs are definitely the best.
@Fancy Write contracts to buy whatever the squadrons or the base needs
@Fancy 2 months
Base Historian is a great job!
Is this a real job? Not to be funny but what did you do?
Im in the process of joining the Air Force and I want to go for aerospace propulsion apprentice. Any insight on that job ?
Aircraft Maintenance career fields, Fight Engineer and Loadmaster are the best especially if you want to make a career out of Air Force.
the last two are extremely hard to get
Bartender at the O Club, driver for the Chaplain, caddy for officers at the base golf course , recruiter, playing in the base band.
something dealing with FLYING/AIRCREW is usually a great job in the Air Force...flight pay, tdy pay, travel, downtime when not flying, etc....
First thought should be "do I want risk and adventure" or something sane in the AF that is the same as in the civilian world and will be easy to slide into when my contract is up. Note that less then 15% ever manage to retire. Then realize that the AF is not interested in hiring dummies who the recruiters weed out quickly. A STEM degree from a decent university is there idea of a good starting place and you should have gone ROTC in school. Pararescue Jumper (PJ) is one of the meaningful risk and adventure slots for the very few with the right stuff. There are other similar AFSOC slots if say you plan to write a book like the Navy SEALS do. An AF job with an identical civilian position waiting for you are numerous in the medical field and other disciplines like Air Traffic Control. Always needed by the FAA for civilian control towers and ATC Center positions.
Loadmaster sounds awesome!
PMEL, maintenance without being maintenance. Some of you should consider retraining into the best job in the Air Force, Manpower.
Great video!
I was in PA. You really have to have the personality for it. It's slightly difficult to be in PA if you're an introvert. I crossed trained out. I had great supervisors but it just wasn't for me.
Ly hi!! 👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾 It's Williamson from Tech. School. Best of luck these days my friend.
Hey as a load master do you always fly with the same crew
Please respond
I work at a big cyber firm now on the business side but also have a tech side. However no college degree. 5 years of tech work though. What could I do to work in cyber for AF + would my previous experience outside the military be of any value to the them? I’m not interested for the money. Typically it sounds like people go to military cyber then transition to corp/civilian life but I’m interested in doing the opposite. Curious if anyone here might know
Services is a great job! You can get out and be a chef running a kitchen for maybe $50,000 a year if you’re lucky along with long hours, hard work, and a dog eat dog atmosphere. OR you can work as a wage grade cook in the federal service for even more money just working 8 hour days.