Security Forces in the Air Force: What's it like? | Elora Jean
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- Hey everyone! I'm starting a series on my channel where I find people with other jobs who can hopefully shed some light and share some information about their AFSC (Air Force specialty code). Thank you to my friend Brandon, who is a Security Forces Airman! He's a part of the military police on Grand Forks Air Force Base, and he was nice enough to share some of his experience. If you have any questions, leave them below and I'll work with him to answer!
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Yo small world! I went to high school with Brandon & played soccer with him hahah. Great vid guys
Ayyy haha that's so cool!
Ummmm we did not go high school together AND I don't play soccer.
Brandon Johnston are you actually him loooool
wow people are weird lmao
@@JohnSmith86132 you ain't him this was 2 years ago
Everyone in the comments complaining about standing around and scanning ID's but I'm down to stand around looking at nothing whilst getting paid, just my two cents.
You will be bored as shit.
@@noahgassler746 bored as shit with free college/housing/medical
Facts
Sitting and earning Tf sounds wonderful 🤗
the downsides would be standing in the cold/heat all day and getting pepper sprayed
Definitely needed this ! Great video 👍
Another great video Elora.
ive been pepper sprayed and everything you say is true. it's like you're touching a hot stove with your eyes, and it the pain doesn't stop at all for 30+ minutes.
Holidays always have the gate more exposed, be a lot more relaxed and chill.
Very good questions asked and generally informative responses.
Elora, let me first thank you both for your service. I'm a retired Air Force MSgt. and we hear that a lot , people thanking us for our service. Some say it because they are required to by their employer. But I really do mean it especially and the times we live. My a very first assignment was at Duluth IAP(INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT), Mn. I was 18 and never really travel to far from South Carolina . So I had to ask my parents where the heck it was. Lol I spent years in Base Supply and was cross trained into Radar , Early Warning. I spent my last 10 years flying on a EC-130E ABCCC . There is a TH-cam video of us doing our job on" ABCCC CLIP ". It was a BATTLESTAFF. Before JSTARS came along. JSTARS and AWACS each took parts if our jobs and then they disbanded our squadron. Sorry about take up your time with me. When Brandon talked about SERES , I had to go through all that to fly. I'm glad I did it but would never want to do it again. Are either of you planning to make the AF a career? I hope so. My granddaughter and a grandson are talking about joining. My grandson is in JROTC He graduates this year. Thank you again.
Shits changed so much lol. I was security forces at Offutt AFB, Nebraska. Was in the mid to late 90's. I loved the job. It was so easy, except for the QC exams, always nerve racking. We deployed all over the damn place. Guantanamo, Kuwait, Saudi. Everywhere there's an airbase. Cool video
I'm thinking of going the security forces route when I join the air force! I really REALLY want to work with K-9's. I have three passions... Military, true crime, and german shepherds. Thanks for this vid!
Haha same!! Being a k9 handler has been my dream job since I was like 5
I wish I had been in security forces but I landed fire protection and I love it. I always wanted to go law enforcement to sort of follow in my dad’s footsteps since he was a cop.
3 POINT 7 what was your score on the asvab? I’ve been considering fire protection as well but the agent I talked to from the af website says my score won’t qualify me for very many jobs.
That’s crazy that I randomly found you guys on TH-cam tell Hilliard King said Aye
They look good together
He said he's married ;)
Unless you’re a dog handler, Raven, or some “special” unit , I don’t know too many happy people in SecFo. Look at retrainees out vs in
I've been watching your videos & they are awesome!! I was actually in Grand Forks for a few years when my husband was in & now I'm actually thinking about joining! Your videos have been super helpful! :)
Do you know any dental assistants? If so, is it possible to make a question and answer video with them? I’m extremely interested in that afsc
Thank you for this video Elora Jean! I am interested in security forces and this helps a lot to be able to hear from a security forces member as opposed to a recruiter.
Being in the Security Police isn't a bad position to be in and I would have enjoyed being in it rather than MMS where I was assigned since that was one field where they needed people in during the Vietnam War. I had to get out of the Air Force to get out of SAC (Strategic Air Command), and working on the B-52's. I put in two years in Thailand during that war and the other time at Minot and Barksdale AFB's. I went into the Reserves where I worked on A-10's and then into MAC where I worked on the C-130's, C-141's, C-5's, and many Civilian aircraft until I retired in 1999.
Some of the BEST memories during my time is DEPLOYING!!! DEPLOY every chance and every opportunity you get!!!
My son is at Lackland now in Tec school for Security Forces, will be graduating in December. Then he is heading to the UK 🇬🇧 .
Just wanted to share...Grand Forks was my first assignment way back in 1989 ( SAC ) and was Security Police (old afsc 811X0 ) I worked out in the missile field, out in the cold, snow, rain, etc....holidays, weekends, Wing " Down Days " etc... never got them off unless it I was on " Break ". I thought just like you did that Grand Forks AFB " Sucked " BUT believe it or not there is a lot worse assignments ( FYI- NEVER EVER GO TO MINOT !! ) . So Grand Forks isn't the worst place to be stationed, but not in the top ten-ha ha. My advice...put in for orders and see the world! Even if you have to go to Korea first ( Kunsan AB 8th SPS Oct 1993-94 ). LOL " Sometimes you have to go to someplace bad, to get to some place good ". i.e. I got a follow on assignment from Korea to England ( RAF Mildenhall 100th SPS November 1994- January 1997).
I am thinking about doing CATM, will volunteering (like how you mentioned of K9) help too?
Elora, I literally love your videos and I'm trying to figure out what job I want. Lately, I've been thinking about loadmaster. If you could find one at your base will you please interview them. I'm really interested. Thank you.
unfortunately my base does not have loadmasters, at least I don't think...because the aircraft we have is unmanned and not able to carry cargo!
ashanti Holland loadmasters fly a lot. Hence their name. They fly primarily on cargo aircraft I.e. c130, c 17, etc. great job from what I’ve been told, a lot of travel. Where ever the bird goes you go. You are the one that loads all the cargo, Weight plans, troop transports, humanitarian drops, etc. and some good $$$.
From experience in the Air gaurd, I have full time opportunity, an opportunity to try for Ravens( 12 active ravens at my base) and an opportunity to help the community pretty dope
If i went to the police academy and did OC spray. If i went reserves air Force will i have to get oc sprayed
So do you no really get a choice on what your mos is? I was hoping to join and become a medic.
Ironic, I’m here researching my options just Incase I can’t get a SERE contract.
It’s very easy to washout of sere, if u can get another job take it, not worth the risk
Do we get to pick what job we'd like when we're in the Security forces?
Yess thank you. Im going in as Security Forces
Brooklyn Haynes how is it
I would disagree about the danger. I worked Security Police for 12 years and another 22 years as a civilian police officer. I was also a Chief of Police for 2 years. Things can kick off at any time no matter civilian or military. Never fall into the mindset that it won't happen here.
i REALLY wanted to be a SERE but i heard sketchy and scary things about it.. Does anyone know if that stuff may be true?
I’m a MA in the Navy I’m stationed in Guam. Unbelievable yall even have the chance to work 8 hour shifts LMAO can’t relate
We had to go through the gas chamber several times without a gas mask, but luckily we were never peppered sprayed when I was in Air Force Security Forces.
how can a security force guard get into soccer. can that work?
Five years in Security Forces.. My advice; If you have the chance, avoid it.
The Rush To Nothing aw why? I’m really interested in security forces.
E J same hopefully I’ll be in it next year
Extremely few locations are worth joining Security Forces but for the most part, talking about the 80% of people who work "flight" during your early years, you'll be doing a whole lot of standing, waiting, looking at nothing, while wearing 20 lb of gear working 12-14+ hours a day pondering "why in the world did I enlist.. ?" trying to find some purpose. It gets a tad better as you promote but most people in the career field between the ranks of E-1 through E-6 are always wishing they could re-train into another career field. Don't be fooled by anyone who says "it's an amazing career field". They either got lucky with assignments or they're playing you. In all seriousness, avoid this career field.
5 years in also, joined in 2013! What rush to nothing says is correct!! 100 PERCENT...
Bradley Uppercrust III what is intel like?
that fan is so sick!!!
If your planning to be in security forces really think about it because your just standing all day and checking Id’s
If you want security forces and the K-9 unit is it mandatory to get bitten by the dog
I’m current law enforcement so I’ve done both the gas chamber as well as getting OC (pepper) sprayed. I’ve also had to be shot with the X26 taser for 5 seconds. The OC spray was BY FAR the worst of them all.
Federal officer here, I’ve been shot with the X2, I didn’t do the gas chamber but I was hit with pepper balls from a PLS, both kinetic (it ****ing stings) and gas while sitting reciting our class chant. OC spray is the worse.
I wanted to be SF but now I got a disk job it's and now I'm glad I found out I was color blind at Meps
I found out that I was color blind at MEPS as well. What job did you get?
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dude you should always go medical. its the only way for me. 8 hour duty day, few deployments, a/c, white uniforms, and NURSES by the pound... i was a surgery tech in a hospital and we had a 7 to 4pm duty day and thats it. sometimes you had to wear a beeper on weekends. this was in the 80s.
where'd yall get the baseball light
Bro I have no idea hahaha it was there when I moved in, I replaced it with a more mature fan so it didn't look like I was sharing my room with my 13-year-old brother lol
Great video
I’m a BDG for security forces 🤪, security forces is fun asf , it’s what you make of it also
Can you do a mental health technician if possible? Working on enlistment, love your videos, helps a lot to mentally prep!
I think I know someone who might be willing to come on my channel! I'll try!
Okay, thank you!
whats the minimum score for the asvab for photojournalism?
I believe it is 72 or 75
As an ex SP in the late 70s and 80s, Police Agencies looked at LE SPs more favorable then Security Forces in part, they view Security Forces as the infantry of the Air Force.
I’m seeking a commission as a SecFor Officer. What is the day to day work like?
Jacob Serrano it depends on what your doing and what your mission is for your squadron. For the O side, new LTs will work flight or supply until they get moved and get more experience. Expect to deploy soon and you generally rotate bases every 2 or so years. Hit me up on IG if you have any other questions. @kyledantoni
Hey Base Entry Controller is my job!!!! No Military personal in our Gate unless they Doing a RVI.
So, in the Airforce materials Security Forces is described as military police, but it sounds more like a security guard. I could get behind being military police, but yeah, I don't want to be a security guard.
Same difference lol
How was tech school for him?
Is sere training standard for SF.. if not how do you go about doing so
I think it's one of the jobs that you have to power clean 70+ lbs at meps to qualify.
How long can you be deployed for in SF?
I believe a typical deployment is 6 months, but sometimes Airmen of any job can be deployed for more than a year. That's not super heard of though.
I have a BS in CJ, what do officers do unlike the enlisted group???
Generally officers are more in a managerial position, so to speak. They have much more to do with overseeing the enlisted members. Officers in security forces aren't that common I don't think, the only officer in security forces I've seen was the commander, who is pretty high-ranking.
Elora Jean She aint wrong, Officers own Enlisted. If you can go Officer to start, DO IT, you get to control everybody!
you look like Amanda Bynes sister in this video! That's why I find you so funny! LMFAO
I joined SF after 4 years in the Marines. They told me that it was the “infantry of the Air Force” and that’s some BS. The job itself sucks and the upper leadership in SF is even worse. It’s a nightmare and I wish I would’ve joined the AF as a Crew Chief or something. Just my honest opinion.
I was in security forces. Nothing tough about it... at all.
Troy33: It was a lot better when you had two different career field LE and SS. SS we did a lot of infantry training and spent time in the field. At least back in the good old cold war days in Europe. Sorry to hear your having a bad experience.
Does everyone go into the same basic training no matter what job ?
Emily Gray yes, pretty much. But rumor is you’ll be in like career field soon if not has already happened for basic training.
I ship out in January for SF, and it's not for the lowest asvab score necessarily. I got a 91 AFQT.
Hey when do you leave? I'm leaving jan 29th and I'm doing secfo also
EasyG how’s that been going for you? I still have a while till I ship out for bmt and also chose SF with a 91 AFQT
RICKY how did they fuck up??
I got a super low score which is the only reason I’m considering SF lol but I guess if you really want it dude go for it 😂
RICKY damn
I want to do security forces so bad😫, i want to be an MP, but my recruiter seems to not really care about me, he never messages me back or tries really..
Try going in person! It's harder to be pushed to the side when you show up in the flesh.
Tianna Walton Same here! Go speak to your nearest recruiter...
Same here. I been talking to mine for over a year, he was on paternity leave for a bit too. But I’m finally getting ready to swear in
Go to a different one. Lol I would blow his phone up
I wish I would have stayed in I would have retired 2 years ago. You kids stay in a enjoy life
Yep, maintenance and sf always get the crap end of the deal.
I was station at GF to,and it sucked
dakkuri1 what do officers do in security forces?
Awesome videos..!!
Ooh I’m glad. I’m awful at test taking and I’m interested in security forces lol
Madison Revelle don’t do it
What was his tech school like for security forces??
He says you should message him on Instagram to talk about it! @sharkboi23
Kinda like Korea if you put it on your list..... you’re gonna get it.
NorthernRedneck 1. Kunsan AB in Korea is awesome. Spent 2yrs there and had a blast. Was the best time of my career.
GROOOM?! Hhahahhaha
@@JK-dh9szis A town still lit?
I respect those still serving, but Security Forces never helped me get appointed to a large-city PD. I would've been better in many other AFSC's instead of checking ID cards at gates and guarding assets.
First video of yours I've seen but I thought I recognized that face in the thumbnail lmao I'm SF at grand forks right now
Elora Jean Since you are stationed at Grand Forks you should take a trip to Oscar Zero down around Cooperstown and visit the missile facility there and see what Grand Forks did during the cold war, You will find it fascinating.
Elora will you do a video on aerospace medical
Unfortunately I don't know any aerospace medical technicians! My base does not have any. Sorry I can not be of assistance for you
@@EloraJean its okay. Thanks for your service
Stay with it. I retired from the Air Force 2 years ago. Its worth it. I stayed in for 30 years and retired out of Security Forces.
Im planning to stay in the air force for the long haul as well i was planning through out to save put a down payment on a condo then rent it out then when im retired i have some kind of monthly revenue along with my pension. What career did you do in the airforce?
Ooof. 20 years is too much in SF. I wouldn't be able to do it. Haha
@@Kryptic_Karma
Yeah, the writing was on the wall towards the end, Lol. I was going to cross train into AC Maintenance but I didn't want to go back through Tech school and CDCs for the 3rd time. I started out as an SP (Security Specialist). It was just before the switch to Security Forces. We still had Command Pins on our berets before the 3 career fields combined and switch to the flash thats on them now.
@@davidchalifoux504 Dang. Well congrats on making it all the way through. I'll probably do reserve or guard after my enlistment. That's what I'm leaning towards right now. I think cross-training into medical wouldn't be bad.. I just don't feel like doing the Tech School stuff again though. Not so soon anyways.
@@Kryptic_Karma You can go Guard and later on, find an AGR position. Best kept secret in the Military. You're full time active duty stationed with a Guard unit but you don't have to PCS anywhere. Just watch for job announcements whenever you go Guard.
Is he in the air force ?
Lol .. okay first 60 seconds .. don’t go into Sec Fo .. basically you end there when you wash out of better MO
Getting OC’d is the worst. By far worst day of my life
He told me the same thing once he did it!
Damn, his wife is one lucky woman.
yall are cuteeeee!
Valerie that's not her bf
I did 8 years with Security Police and had the best assignments in the Air Force and planned on making it a career. Then came Minot AFB and I got out. In hindsight I should have stayed in another 12 years for the pension. It was one of my biggest regrets in life. I miss the comradity.
Hooo-Aha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How did you like the assignments at the minot AFB I’m actually in the process of joining
I feel the same way should have stayed in also.
This is gonna be my job and in the air force and im nervous
Adam Kitchin hi how are you liking it
I’m a sere washout too bro
Do you guys know anyone that works as a Load master?? Thats the job I’m most interested in!
There are no loadmasters at my base! The only aircraft we have is an unmanned one. I can't help you with that, sorry!
Elora Jean it’s okay thank you! Love your videos 💕
Sidney Lopez I recommend calling the base near you in your state get in contact with the operator and they will find The Squadron for you that has load masters. I recommend just looking into the job yourself.
I’m a C130 Loadmaster at Little Rock if you have any questions. If you can get that job take it!
SAAAAAMEEEEE SOO INTERESTED IN BEING A LOAD MASTER!!
What do they look at when you're going into security forces? Do they did into your civilian med record? Do you have to go through the process for security clearances?
LoganDustin7 yes absolutely. You get a security clearance so yes there are background checks, drug tests, etc...
I feel like you have more opportunities with Services than Security Forces
Raul Reyes outright lies! How?
@@maverick3987I'd rather be a Sous or Executive Chef with business ownership opportunities than a mall cop lol remember, we still get the same preference points on police or state trooper exams with any military job. And sometimes Departments would rather have fresh enlisted with no experience so they dont carry military police habits that civilian departments want to avoid. Not a bad if you wanna be a lifer and do your 20 and retire but chefs have business advantages with culinary expirence and maybe become a cop after I leave to carry 2 professions under my belt. Think business buddy. I'm In the Army as an Electrician but still want to become a cop. I'm starter than than the average Airmen but I chose the Army because they promised the job. So now I can either become an Electrician or Law Enforcement. Think about your career before choosing any job in the military. But my point is.. Military Chef doesnt sound that bad
Raul Reyes I understand, no worries. But Services in the Air Force is more than just chef, they do a lot, to include but not Limited to gym management (handing out towels). I’m pretty sure they rotate thru the different sections of Services, And that’s assuming you even get to cook to be fair. But i think we can both agree it depends on what your missions are or support and how your career goes. You don’t need a degree to be a regular city cop. Does it help, sure. Maybe staties, and definitely federal sectors want degrees. I’m a 7 yr SSgt, So I know my career. Just depends on how you treat it.
@@maverick3987 exactly you understand. I'm only a private thinking long term. So yes I'm not thinking of making the military a career and I care less of growth and rank because I wanna use the Armys benefits to become either a business owner as an Electrician or like I said maybe become a Police or State Trooper. Here in my State all you need is a clean record and a passing score and the academy is right there. But good for you brother. No matter what branch your in. If you dont have a plan you will never succeed and that's the truth💪🏽
Raul Reyes definitely. Good stuff brother stay frosty. Hit me up on that IG if ya want.
Luckily for myself, I’m separating in a year after being a part of Security Forces for 5 years. This video has inspired me to film a video about reasons why NOT to join the career field lmao. I’m here for yall!
I don't have a clue about military jobs... I want to join the airforce my recruiter keeps telling me all they are hiring for is Security forces... That sounds scary lol
She kind of likes this dude, they look like a nice 💑 her body language shows it. I can see her doing great things in broadcasting and reporting.
Worst Job EVER!!!...My buddy was S/F for the Air - Force, when I had 2 weeks off for holidays he was working 12-16 hour days LOL.
Ok but you haven't actually been in S/F so your information isn't helpful. Would prefer to hear from your friend.
OspreyBravo18 Hey man, don’t listen to what people that aren’t even in the career field have to say about SF. I’ve been doing this for 4 years now and I honestly love this job. I’ll admit that it can really suck at times and if you’re not the type of person that can smile and have a positive attitude through the sucky moments, you’ll most likely not be a fan of SF and I’d recommend another AFSC. But if you’re able to have a positive attitude during the sucky moment (because there will be plenty) you’ll love this career field. It depends on your attitude and how strong you are mentally. There’s been times where I’ve been at the gate checking ID’s in -35 temperatures but there’s also been times where I’ve been to Puerto Rico for a few weeks and stayed in hotels right next to the beach. It’s what you make it.
Brayan O I’m happy to hear that you have been in as SF and I’m always cheerful so I believe it would be a good job for me I ship on June 11 any advice u recommend
Brayan O can you choose where you go? Or they just give you a place where you are needed and you’re forced to go?
Yes It's Me does that mean your standing 16 hours a day? Or do you switch with someone on shifts?
Go to 3:57 and turn on subtitles 😁
Hes so cute
i’m wanting to join the security force to eventually become a mwd handler
julia leslie me too!
Is it me or does he give off young travolta vibes?
This is such a coincidence because I want to do this. I eventually want to work with dogs but the requirements require to work in security forces.
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My dad was in Security Forces for 4-6 years. It's the worst job in the Air Force.
Yeah it's definitely one that I feel like people either love or hate haha
I spent my first 3 years in SAC during in which I helped build one of the first EST [Emergency Services Teams] (SWAT) teams and got to go to a FBI SWAT School. I was also part of a deploy-able 44 man ABGD (Air Base Ground Defense) team that trained at Ft. Hood with Army Calvary Scouts. My second Duty Station was at a small Detachment in Turkey. I was the NCOIC of Arms and Equipment for the Security Unit (40+ SP's). I was also the leader of the Rescue Recovery Team (a Joint US/Turkish EST) in support of Nuclear Weapons. When I rotated back to the world Langley AFB, VA (Tactical Air Command HQ) I was chosen for the TAC Command Guard, Security for the CINCTAC (Commander in Chief Tactical Air Command --4 Star General). So in 6 short years I think I had very interesting and fulfilling enlistment. My experience helped me in my 25 year career as a State Trooper (Driving/Firearms/Radar/SWAT/Rappelmaster/Sniper Instructor-SWAT Operator/Asst.Team leader/Sniper)
I was Security Police from 1961 to 1965. Played on the base basketball team at all the bases to which I was assigned. Spent a lot of time TDY all over the States and several countrys playing ball. I loved my job as a SP when I was working. Gate guard duty or walking figure eights around two B-52's in the alert area. Wish I had stayed in and made law enforcement my career. SF is what you make of it. It's not for everyone.
So a week ago someone mentioned to me about what I thought about the Air Force. I said I didn’t really know. Well I haven’t stopped thinking about it at all since and I don’t know if it is a good thing. I’m scared.
Why are you scared? Are you joining? It's okay to be uncertain! That's where research comes in. You could probably find some reddit pages about Air Force too, all kinds of honest stuff about why people love it or hate it.
I’ve done so much research and watched a lot of your videos and I’m meeting with a recruiter soon. I’m in my last year of high school so I guess I’m just scared to graduate. We’ve been in school our whole life’s.
I’ve done so much research and watched a lot of your videos and I’m meeting with a recruiter soon. I’m in my last year of high school so I guess I’m just scared to graduate. We’ve been in school our whole life’s.
That makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of fear in the unknown!
Yea I just have a lot of questions I guess that I’m going to ask my recruiter. But your videos have definitely made this decision easier for me to make.
I was in USAF Security Police from 1982 to 1988. I'm proud of what I did, and I considered it a good job. I worked with good people doing a thankless job. It makes me sick to think that Security Forces today is comprised of the drop shots and quitters from other career fields. Instead of whining, make the best of the situation and be the best Defender you can. Take some pride in your job, because when it comes down to it and push comes to shove, YOU are going to be the one standing between the Godless commie hordes while all those families on base are being evacuated. That means something. You should have learned in the academy that in Vietnam, AP's laid down their lives defending their bases from Viet Cong sappers and NVA regulars. Since then Defenders have laid down their lives fighting for their brothers in different places in the Middle East. 12 during Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Security Forces has a history to be proud of. Don't badmouth it like it's just a "fall down the well - not fit to do anything else" kind of job. My ASVAB scores qualified me for any job in the Air Force.
I CHOSE to be a Security Specialist. Have some pride in what you do. You're making yourself and everyone else in the career field look bad.
if you hate it that badly GET OUT. you'd probably be better suited for the Army anyways...
Spoken like a Cold Warrior!!!
stop, I was stationed in Grand Forks, N.D.
What do officers do in security forces?
In one of your videos u said u couldn’t speak to a guy
In BMT? You weren't really supposed to interact with your brother flights or anything, but girls did it when they had the chance haha
She is so pretty
I thought peper spray was required at bmt?
Pepper spray is not a requirement at BMT, but the gas chamber is.
Fighters by day lovers by night drunkin by choice ready to fight! Usaf security police 1973-1993 "no medals just guts"
@@thomasryan2679 c'mon fiodor yo mama liked it😘
@@thomasryan2679 i did what you were afraid to do.
@@thomasryan2679 saved a mans life in a hostage rescue early 1975, took enemy fire south east asia 15 sept 1975, saved a man from a suicide attempt in korea 1980...so what have you done with your life? Slick!🎆