REVIEW - Fanatec CSL Universal Hub
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2024
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Fanatec's ClubSport Universal Hub has been around for quite now, and while it serves its purpose well, it's not exactly the prettiest thing to look at unless hidden behind a larger wheel and can be quite clumsy to work with.
Today, Fanatec introduced their new CSL Universal Hub which features a clever sliding design allowing it to be used with a wide variety of wheels with either 50 or 70mm stud patterns, and with a significantly lower price tag than the ClubSport Universal Hub, so let's take a closer look!
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Time Stamps:
Intro: 0:00
Unboxing: 1:01
First Impressions: 1:45
Buttons and Features: 4:56
Quick Release: 9:23
Adjustments: 12:16
Wheel Compatibility and Test Fitting: 14:45
Do you need the Metal Quick Release?: 26:14
Software: 27:40
Rigidity: 29:00
Driving Tests and Conclusions: 33:11
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Your reviews are amazing. Lots of info, details and the quality is incredibly good too. Really all i can ask for in a review
I’m so glad you have this uploaded so soon because I need a good review to see how this works. Thanks mate.
great attention to detail. im left without question, as to the build/functionality of the product. fanatec should be grateful for such effort, which im sure they will be when seeing it. cheers, Will.
Another great quality and detailed sim gear review thanks Will.
Nice and thorough review, helped me immensely! Thanks!
saw the fanatec video drop then started waiting for this video to drop
keep up the great videos
I'll definitely be buying one. I actually like the look and happy to see the price point they came in at. Great for the budget sim racer 👌
lol it is so shit
Brilliant review, made me realise what i need to go for and i think that will be the McLaren GT3! Thanks!
Actually ordered this with the rs300 wheel and a dd1 after canceling the csl DD with boost kit!
Great review!
Great Review. Thank you. Alfons from Germany
graet review - good work, thank you
thanks for the review. it will be interesting what Barry from SRG thinks after he pulls it apart and has a good look at it
Those adjustable paddle/button modules are a great Idea
From the second i posted this up on the fanatec group people keep saying how ugly they are lol
My CSW 2.5 and BMW Wheel literally just arrived today and unboxing both the wheel base and the wheel itself i love the feel of everything its really impressed me and im coming from a CSL Elite which i was impressed with at the time but the clubsport stuff just feels like its in a completely different league. I was thinking about a DD1 Wheel base but that would of meant having to buy a complete new rig as well which would of added up to more than i was willing to pay really. Im just waiting on my V3 Pedals to arrive with the performance kit and then ill be ready to start racing again.
Lovely review sir. Love the clean look of your studio/videos. Curious what the USB C might be for in the future.
Im guessing they have accessories planned for the future similar to the Button Module Endurance. Don't have any further info at the moment though.
I would sure like to see a Podium level product just like this.....
thx for the vid!!
Nice, now I wont have to unbolt my rims when i go from GT to oval racing!
I think this was a perfect addition to the Fanatec produce line. It fills one of the few voids I felt they had.
Unless you bought the Clubsport hub, you were locked out of the option of using their lineup of rims, or aftermarket rims. And since the Clubsport hub costs so much, it limits people on a budget to their all in one rims. Not saying they're bad, but its nice being able to get their full selection of rims without having to spend $400+. Now I can get a GT rim for $270 instead, and get the clubsport hub down the line if I want to.
I think it is a great addition as well. I just don't like the way it is done with those cheap shifters and that plastic quick release. I think they should rather have made it 200$ and improved in those two points.
@@mochannel25 Yeah, I can agree with that. Especially considering my TMX has metal shifters.
You forgot to mount/compare or refer to the 32cm two spokes drift wheel with semidish. Do you think you can reach the padle shifters with that wheel type?
Can the shifter be replaced with the magnetic shifter?
great video! Now I can buy a wheel and a wheel hub for cheaper. I just got my new sim rig so this will work well when it comes out.
It’s available now. Links in the description
I prefer the feel of the universal hub shifters over my McLaren V2 magnetic shifters.
I don’t even use Fanatec gear I’m part of the thrustmaster family but eventually want to switch in the future and my be get a dd1 or dd2 thx for the vid Will :)
also check out Simucube wheels for direct drive
@@kaboom1252 yeah I may go that route as well. But I’m not sure yet tho
@@JasperF12 do. They are bwtter in everyway minus plug and play.
I think they made a mistake with that shifter. Would have been better to make it 20 bucks more expensive and improve the shifter design.
They should be upgradable to magnetic!
even at that pricepoint a better shifter setup should have been possible. Just look at the Mclaren wheel. It has magnetic shifters and is an entire wheel, not just a hub for just 50€ more. To be honest this product just isn't worth it's price. It's a really bad value proposition. Logitech Shifters are less flexy than those are.
26:48 Why do they not implement the same function in the WRC wheel? I love the shape and feel of the WRC wheel, quite miffed I can never use it with full torque mode.
Have standards slipped, my csl base from a couple of years ago had zero shaft movement/flex.
Great review.
It’s a different design. The original has a metal band with a hex bolt fastener. The new quick release makes it easier to swap wheels but the trade off is a bit of flex, evidently.
So what is the best solution for deep dish wheels if you still want decent access to buttons and paddles
It was good until it wasn’t XBox compatible 👎🏻 Nice review Thanks for sharing. 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
Can you remove the paddles for dished wheels?
Hi Will, sure you’ve answered before, but could you be kind enough to point me to the guys that make the circuits you have hung on you wall? Thanks in advance!
The clubsport metal QR should have very little flex in it when you use the bolt. If yours does still have flex it’s actually the small bolts inside he shaft on the wheelbase side that need tensioning.
To all who continue to recommend using the screw to reduce flex with the Clubsport quick release, at least on all versions of CSL Elite and all version of Clubsport wheelbase, the threads are only present in the shaft only, NOT in the quick release also. Therefore, the screw is not in any way whatsoever tightening the quick release onto the shaft because doing it up tighter does not pull the quick release more snuggly onto the wheelbase shaft. At best it simply pushes on the black, outer quick release sleeve onto the inner, silver quick release shaft. Look at how thin the black outer quick release sleeve is where the screw would push down upon. It clearly is not intended to be a load bearing surface, which it would have to be if it were intended or designed to somehow reduce flex.
The screw was never designed, nor intended to reduce shaft flex. It’s purely there as an extra step to (somehow) stop unintended disconnection of a wheel (which itself is not actually possible). Since it takes more than one ‘step’ or movement to remove a wheel, not just one unintended or accidental movement, that in and of itself is a ‘safety lock’ because how can someone first pull the outer quick release ring back towards the wheel, and then, while holding the quick release ring somehow unintentionally pull the wheel off? It just isn’t possible! In any way whatsoever. I mean, you have to remove your hands from the wheel itself to grab the quick release outer sleeve so how could anyone ever do that unintentionally? It’s not like flicking a switch because your eyes were on the road and you didn’t want to take the time to glance at the switches and because you were driving/concentrating so hard at that moment, your muscle memory wasn’t quite what it usually is and your (choose a finger or thumb) pressed the wrong switch/button/pushed a toggle instead of a button/etc.
I hope this might go some way in helping to put to rest anyone continuing to believe that the screw is somehow, magically reducing shaft flex. I’ve only experience with the Clubsport and CSL Elite wheelbases, but even on a DD1/2, the quick release STILL does not have any threads in it and no load bearing surface for the screw to snug down upon. If it is possible, please, someone enlighten me and explain how this actually occurs? With many thanks.
Hi Will, Is there any news on a new DD quick release? I noticed a new type when they showed first footage of the new BMW M4 rim
I don’t have any info yet.
Plastic paddles... Why? Looks very toyish. The base csl wheel rim got a metal one
I’m wondering the same. It could have been so much better.
Well done BM crew! Loved the video, and your attention to detail.
I couldn't do it right now anyway, but I've got a F1 "Limited Edition" rim on my CSW v2.5 atm. It's the black and silver version, whichever year that one is from. But I DON'T have the additional paddles for clutch and "bite point", which I've never done before (obviously). So the new McLaren is interesting to me, but because it doesn't have all the dial encoders that the "more expensive" F1 LE have... I'm not sure if that's even something I'd want to go to.
How "much better" would you say the "bite point" system is for games like F1 2020? Is it something folks that haven't raced IRL are going to understand and find useful? Or should most of us save our money, and be quite happy with whatever setups we already have? Given my current financial situation, I feel VERY lucky to have the gear I already have... with CSW v2.5, CSL Elite with Load Cell pedals and brake, the aforementioned F1 rim, as well as the BMW rim with an aftermarket magnetic "shifter" mod added. And my Rseat S1 (because I had never done an 80/20 system, and that was more intimidating than I was prepared to deal with, without knowing where to go for a LOT of help figuring out designs and such) has been WONDERFUL. I don't have a buttkicker, but I'm in a condo so for now I've decided skipping that might keep things more civil with my neighbors, and other than adding the keyboard tray (so I have a place for a wireless Logitech K400 keyboard and trackpad on the rig, wireless controllers if I'm playing console games and use a DriveHub, or just want somewhere to keep my cell phone nearby, is great. ;) )
Anyway, thanks again for the video, and have an awesome day!!! :)
Tbh the bite point clutch is pretty useless for F1 2020. Just assign one of your shifter paddles as your clutch (2nd function) and hold revs at 75% or so. Perfect launch every time.
Absolutely not worth buying the advanced paddle module just for playing F1 2020.
@@boostedmedia Thank you! Sorry the post was so long... but REALLY appreciate you and the reply!!! :D
No problem mate.
Love the price point! But do not see it on their website at all? Is it released yet?
Yes. Links are in the video description.
We need an updated Clubsport universal hub.
Concerning your criticism about the shifter of the Clubsport universal hub. There is a nut that you can turn so the shifter in its initial position gets closer to the „click“. I calibrated that, so that it is just before the „click“ which is when it shifts. So then there is no play before the shift. However there is play after the shift, but that is not so important i guess.
Yeah I’ve tried that too. But found the click of the microswitch isn’t defined enough and I started mis-shifting more often. Big improvement with a $20 magnetic mod.
@@boostedmedia ah okay, which magnetic shifters do you recommend?
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Hi !my ps button not working in console (right red button)
But working perfect in pc
Already updated the firmware..any tip?
what kind of dish would be good for this rim for OVAL racing
Where can you buy the track wall art he has
I want to buy a cls wheel base ( that is sold out and doesn't have a pre order ) and a formula v2 wheel but
with the this new hub a new csl wheel im hoping they are coming out with a 2.0 wheel base any thoughts ?
The csl ps4 is pretty new already.
Small correction, it's a CSL wheel, not CSL Elite ;)
Nothing gets past you does it. LOL! Thanks for the correction :) Hopefully the only error
podium hub ftw
@gamermuscle had issues with his OMP wheel. Its a lottery if you but aftermarket wheels for this product
Would this be good enough on the CSL DD?
10:10 "to enable full torque on the DD1 and DD1" I think you meant DD1 and DD2 haha
Can someone explain to me why you would purchase one of these vs a complete steering wheel like say a p1 wheel or Mclaren gt3 wheel? Other than attaching my own aftermarket wheel I don’t see why I would ever need this (I hope that doesn’t sound too ignorant I’m just curious)
Talked about this a few times in the video. I think it will appeal to people who already own some aftermarket rims snd want a cheap gateway into the Fanatec ecosystem
I mean I’m upgrading a wheel base and rim from the thrust,aster tmx but I don’t like the way this is build just gonna go for the clu sport hub
Do you have the new Podium Quickrelease version already? Blink twice if you have it... ;D
Can u recommend any dish style wheel for rally racing for my csl elite is there any official product from fanatec pls help BOOSTED MEDIA..👍 thanks for all ur excellent contents 👍 330-350mm pls
Nutserts or just threaded inserts?
The quote on the box is from Aytron Senna.
So it is! I should have remembered that!! Shame on me!
@@boostedmedia Your surprise was genuine and funny :D, I loved the review. Shame on Fanatec for those paddles. My rally buddy with CSL E wanted to buy this instantly, you saved him from a great disappointment.
Thank god i have the Clubsport Universal Hub, this new CSL hub looks like a toy.
Can the shifters be removed?
How about the new QR from Fanatec. Hearing a lot of people having issues with braking itnon the WRC and McLaren v2.
What do you mean? Are people reporting issues?
@@yomamasushi9776 the new quick release is Breaking on CSW and DD bases
BME is not supported on this CSL UH btw ^^
FANATEC DD R.I.P
Interesting drop. Looks promising.
Also, thirst
If your thirsty u should get a drink 🤣🤣
@@thio_2462 LOL 😂 😂
@@JasperF12 Mocking the youngins haha. I'll grab meself a glass, be right back mate
@@egamundoy 🤣🤣
If you don't use Fanatecs screw for fixing the QR to the base permanently but a solid screw which fits the size of the cutout in the black part of the QR there is absolute zero play in the Podium/Clubsport QR System. And I really mean ZERO play. There is a lot of play without a screw and still a bit of it with the Fanatec screw but when you use a M8.8 screw it fits perfectly. Driving it in for the first time it might cut about half a millimeter away from the QR but then it fits better than a perfect glove.
I even have a 120mm extension on my DD2 now and there is NO flex in it at all. If I use my whole bodyweight (not recommended though) to push it to either side, I'm actually pushing my P1-X around...
thanks for the review, i think in regards to the quick releases you should have mentioned there is the opportunity to use the securing bolt with the clubsport quick release unlike the new twist style quick release, its not ideal but for the sake of 10-15 seconds it does reduce the play quite a lot on the clubsport quick release since the bolt is designed to push the metal of the sleeve and the metal of the hub together. i personally use one on a DD1 ofcourse and i also use a z ring and still the bolt and have zero play at all, but just the bolt on its own was enough to reduce it massively when the bolt is tightened a reasonable amount.
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I just seen this on Fanatec's website. Its not my cup of tea.
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Mclaren GT3 and BMW wheel here on my elite base, best decision so far.
How much does ur momo dish style rally racing wheel cost
I think I paid $450AUD
Is there any good rim for my csl elite for rally racing from fanatec dish wheel 330 to 350 mm official , thanks for helping 👍
If the paddles could be removed and replaced with magnetic ones I'd think about this but without that , it's a pass .
31:39 put the screw in the metal QR and see if that does help the play!!
I’ve never found it to make any difference, plus it’s not really a quick release anymore if you have to put a screw in every time you use it.
@@boostedmedia Yeah i know it takes longer, i've used my screw for 4 years now( well about 4 screws because the amount of times i change rims wore out the head, lol) because i've always been concerned about snapping pins :o
I’ve only ever had snapped pins once and it was on my Formula carbon wheel while using the screw. After that stopped bothering snd never had another issue. It only happens on the CSW2.5 due to there being no give in the female pin assembly. If you look at the CSL elite and DD female pin assembly it’s different and allows for some movement without stressing the pins.
@@2ndLastJedi The screw does absolutely nothing whatsoever in terms of reducing shaft play. It’s not designed to reduce flex and was never intended to perform that function. It is purely to eliminate ‘accidental’ removal of the wheel by ‘accidentally’ pulling in the outer spring loaded quick release and then pulling the wheel itself from the base; so it really is quite redundant and I’ve never understood how anyone could ever remove the wheel without intending to do so, it isn’t as if just a single movement can end up with the wheel in your hands, completely disconnected from the wheelbase. Since several movements have to be performed to remove the quick release from the base, that in itself is performing the role of an unintended disconnect ‘safety lock’ type of role. The screw is 100% redundant. For actual proof of this, just have a closer look at what the screw threads into - the threads are only in the quick release, not the wheelbase shaft. If there are no threads in the wheelbase shaft, the screw is not pulling or tightening the quick release down, tighter onto the shaft. It’s performing the complete, opposite role and the more the screw is tightened, the more it will actually push the quick release away from the shaft, not snugging it down tighter.
@@aaronperelmuter8433 fact check identified this post as misleading and false information!
Plastic paddle shifts on a £150 kit. That’s honestly a joke, the cheapest wheel on Amazon without any FF has metal paddles ffs. That ruins it for me.
Nah, think I'll pass on this one.
Agreed. McLaren is a good deal because even after $100 ClubSport upgrade, it's still $300 with magnetic shifters, 3 rotary encoders, clutch paddles, Xbox compatibility and the next best thing is V2 with APM which is almost $600.
After ClubSport upgrade, this hub is only $100 less than Xbox hub without Xbox compatibility and worse shifters.
I can't believe the endurance podium module is made out of plastic... Classic Fanatec. Also how the F does this not come with supplied bolts. SMH
Looks like something you would buy from Toys R Us... God rest their souls...
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Its a monstrosity! What was the designer thinking when they pitched that?
What is the retail price all of ur sim- setup/gear/etc? 😅 If u don't count the discounts/freebies
@boostedmedia
Well over $100k AUD by now for just the sim gear including the computers. But not including cameras and lighting.
Seems like a missed opportunity by omitting Xbox compatibility.
charging an additional $200 for the CS U-Hub just for Xbox compatibility feels a bit like Fanatec is gouging that market segment
The packaging looks better than the product. Probably cost just as much to manufacture.
11:09 to 11:20 you’re a freaky deaky man ain’t ya
I dont understand why the market for Play Station is so much bigger with Fanatec than it is with xbox. It's pretty annoying that you cant use some of the wheels on xbox!!!
They had me until the shifter thing. I wouldn't mind paying more for better feeling shifter paddles. Kinda disappointed. 🙁
Yeah I was disappointed too for the same reason. I do t see why they didn’t use similar paddles to the WRC wheel. The shifters really let this product down.
@@boostedmedia honestly, even the csl elite ps4 wheel had decent shifters for the price. I wouldn't have minded that tbh.
The more i look at it the more i like the looks, but the shifters put me off sorry.
It doesn't look serious, like a toy.
They should have made it Xbox compatible...
I have to admit I was surprised about the lack of XBOX compatibility. I figured licencing is expensive and that cost would be passed on to the customer. So I guess it's good if you're not an XBOX owner, and bad if you are.
@@boostedmedia They could maybe offer 2. One with and one without the Xbox compatibility. I (and other people too) would have probably bought this if it had the option. Shame :(
Universal Hub is ugly but these shifters look pretty poor too tbh. At least the Universal Hub can upgrade to magnetic shifters.
Jesus christ that is hideous. The thing that bugs me the most is that they couldn't even use the csl elite p1 steel shifters! This shouldn't be more than 99€ 🤮
Com'n, save us Aussies the hassle of having to go to the Fanatec site to check AUD pricing.
Good review though.
Psst, it’s A$259.90
srsly? It's just 150€ over here
XE Exchange - "Am I A Joke To You?"
@@doemaeries which means locally (in Australia) we’re only paying $20 more on current exchange rates - Fanatec’s local pricing isn’t bad overall, but it is also inconsistent (some things are cheaper here after you do the currency exchange, some the same price, some more expensive)
@@YayDanMan my bad, i thought 260 US$
Or just clip the prong
I wouldn’t recommend doing that. The simplified QR isn’t designed to handle the higher torque levels. But yea if you want to void your warranty you can do that to enable high torque.
Boosted Media Yes it would be a bad idea. It was more like meant as a joke😅
150 bucks for a bunch of plastic? I'm out...
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it's an old saying. Second is the first of the losers.
Ugly and still very pricey
Less than 2 minutes in and what a shit message from Fanatec.
Ayrton Senna
@@blink182. Still shit. What about just enjoying what you're doing.
the universal hub is a piece of shit it disconnects like every five seconds