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  • @SmithySafc96
    @SmithySafc96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2244

    Entrepreneur: "everytime we've pitched, we've had 100% success rate"
    Jenny: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career

    • @GodOfPlague
      @GodOfPlague 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol

    • @alankimachiwong6536
      @alankimachiwong6536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Jenny’s always out

    • @kingdomperspectivesmindset5595
      @kingdomperspectivesmindset5595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@alankimachiwong6536 Bt she was right to be this time, and she read the signs quite well so didn't make an offer :o/...as usual :o)

    • @jdrodrigues7
      @jdrodrigues7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He went in a meeting to negotiate and came out with a deal thus he still has a 100% success rate. Each "meeting" to pitch his business nets a deal.

    • @kerrygallagher8508
      @kerrygallagher8508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's it. That's the kinda comment we crave

  • @maryamkim1281
    @maryamkim1281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +873

    He was so disrespectful. This the difference between confidence and arrogance.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Amazingly arrogant.

    • @jrbs
      @jrbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Euan's face says it all at 3:11

    • @norman1741
      @norman1741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Yeah, i would never invest in his company or his app. He will always be remembered by his ignorant behaviour. Glad his company earnt only £580.000 in 2018, where is his £18mln prediction? Haha. Total tool.

    • @Brett.D
      @Brett.D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Short man syndrome...

    • @al-farsi6018
      @al-farsi6018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      N J Wishing the worst of others and celebrating in their failures only exposes weakness.

  • @joeybulford5266
    @joeybulford5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    I didn’t like how they shut down Tej like that. Have some respect. I was rooting for Peter to pull out after that

    • @AbhishekSanyalTGV
      @AbhishekSanyalTGV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The product was really really good with massive opportunities in the tech space. Peter didn't want to pull out. I am sure he would have pulled out if they were pitching for something else.

    • @terrapinalive6192
      @terrapinalive6192 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too

    • @mfoco1
      @mfoco1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@AbhishekSanyalTGV no deal is worth having this sort of character involved.

    • @AbhishekSanyalTGV
      @AbhishekSanyalTGV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mfoco1 I understand. Peter was weirded out for a while there. That's why he said he felt a bit strange. He was trying to think whether to abandon them or go ahead with the offer. They put him in a spot after what they did to Tej

    • @MartynMills
      @MartynMills 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They should have all pulled out, I've never seen so blatant racism in my life.

  • @Argumemnon
    @Argumemnon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1366

    Well, that sucks for Tej. No reason to reject him after he gave them exactly what they wanted.

    • @RealityCheck6T9
      @RealityCheck6T9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      Shocking disrespect

    • @bilalsidik9007
      @bilalsidik9007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Racist individuals

    • @helbentable
      @helbentable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Bilal Sidik oh please not that old chestnut 🙄👎🏼

    • @zaids9394
      @zaids9394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Tej got rich off daddy's business, he's hardly got experience in business development

    • @mikevarga2058
      @mikevarga2058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Jenny Penny please don’t trivialise the matter of race

  • @palllasolol
    @palllasolol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1424

    Sometimes automatic TH-cam subtitles say "Pizza Jones" instead of Peter Jones. And I'm ok with it.

    • @samkan1922
      @samkan1922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rox Azolan what’s your mums name?

    • @WildManFrizzell
      @WildManFrizzell 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rox Azolan GOOD! now get back to work

    • @samkan1922
      @samkan1922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WildMan Frizzell thats is fantastic name sir

    • @Crooks103
      @Crooks103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are a legend

    • @spillers8615
      @spillers8615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Poor old Ewan gets called urine

  • @drexlspivey5828
    @drexlspivey5828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +764

    I can't believe he turned down Tej's offer, insane

    • @Swnsasy
      @Swnsasy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lewis morrison They knew Edgar they where doing.. The company is massive and worth MILLIONS!!

    • @m.a.r1982
      @m.a.r1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @Shaun Co different company

    • @lXlinfinitylXl
      @lXlinfinitylXl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Shaun Co different company, they filed for bankruptcy few months back

    • @130lukas
      @130lukas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lXlinfinitylXl can we get sources on this? I did some googling and found no information either way unless I"m looking in the wrong places.

    • @cirrus393
      @cirrus393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Shaun Co they have definitely not increased their worth to £90 million in just a year...

  • @Roachehh
    @Roachehh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    Tej looked genuinely insulted. They did him real dirty. If Peter and Deb didn't see immense potential in the company they would have pulled out for that reason alone.

    • @Shivian124
      @Shivian124 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes they declined his offer in a pretty unprofessional manner.

    • @vikvegas8593
      @vikvegas8593 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shivian124 And what about all the times the Dragon's have declined people in an unprofessional manner?

    • @goldenghost2001
      @goldenghost2001 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @vikvegas8593 oh whataboutism. People like you always find a way don't ya?

    • @roxanne4820
      @roxanne4820 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vikvegas8593 The entrepreneurs aren't in a position to be rude to the dragons since they're literally asking for their money and expertise to help their business

    • @mfoco1
      @mfoco1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He made an offer, which was accepted on the exact terms he stated, and then broke the verbal contract. At that point, it does not matter how good the deal looks, Peter and Deborah should have immediately pulled out. If he'll behave that way on national TV, there's no telling what he'll do behind closed doors.

  • @amercer89
    @amercer89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +877

    Jenny: you're asking me for money
    investor: yes
    Jenny: I'm out

    • @A15Beats
      @A15Beats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Jenny is the investor

    • @cosmicdarkmatter1128
      @cosmicdarkmatter1128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@A15Beats But she's usually out before ever getting the chance to be the "investor"...lol

    • @Swnsasy
      @Swnsasy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alastair Mercer ROFLOL good one

    • @user-lq6tj9dc5t
      @user-lq6tj9dc5t 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahahahhahahaha

    • @DreadPyke
      @DreadPyke 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @RJ k you must be fun at parties.

  • @Domtronic
    @Domtronic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +526

    Jesus they declined Tej for giving them what they wanted. Big oof.

    • @abdulquddus667
      @abdulquddus667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dominic Commisso think tej should give him some free vitimans
      That chap needs it

    • @nzdefrag
      @nzdefrag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not really, they wanted Peter or Deborah. So Tej offered them almost what they wanted.

    • @Abi-ec8xm
      @Abi-ec8xm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I smell racism

    • @maikbaumann1250
      @maikbaumann1250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i thought i missunderstand that, because my english isnt the best - i have rewind 3 times *and* look at the comment section. so yes *big oof*

    • @Domtronic
      @Domtronic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@maikbaumann1250 Congrats on your English. It looks great to me. :)

  • @stephenbusby424
    @stephenbusby424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    The disrespect shown to Tej made me cringe. They negotiated with him, he gave them the deal they wanted and they threw it back in his face. I understand they wanted Peter but acting that way towards Tej came across as disrespectful.

  • @CapybaraHats
    @CapybaraHats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +530

    The palpable shift in the attitude of the room as soon as he said "I'm about to win a sportsman's bet". How daft can you be? Even if you did make a private bet for fun with your friends or whatever, what could possibly come over you to think it was appropriate to reveal and brag about while pitching to the dragons?

    • @tosspot1305
      @tosspot1305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Clearly very arrogant...but arrogance can go a long way in business

    • @rohilthomson
      @rohilthomson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@tosspot1305 arrogance will only lead to your downfall. It inspires ignorance and bad rep. What you want is confidence.

    • @madamefeast4824
      @madamefeast4824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@tosspot1305 Confidence. Arrogance is the worst thing for business. Notice how all the arrogant people always shoot themselves in the foot and don't get a deal? Confidence is not the same as arrogance. Nobody wants arrogance

    • @cybersechs1368
      @cybersechs1368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tosspot1305 Arrogance isn't bad. The correct term you're thinking of his 'hubris'.

    • @oxymoron02
      @oxymoron02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@cybersechs1368 Arrogance and hubris are largely the same thing and both bad. I can't believe some people still struggle with such simple things.

  • @Nautilus1972
    @Nautilus1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Peter on every offer: "I'll give you all the money, but I want 4 times what you're offering"

    • @dickvandraevan1675
      @dickvandraevan1675 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's the best dragon so he gets to do that

    • @longq5198
      @longq5198 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wish he had bumped up the percentage for them being so disrespectful.

    • @dxncerr1233
      @dxncerr1233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dickvandraevan1675to be fair if I had a business, I’d want nobody else other than Peter in on it

    • @samsschool3639
      @samsschool3639 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dxncerr1233 Even if it was Vitamins, or baby products?

    • @mxrella
      @mxrella 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr tho like 'I have more potential so I'm offering all thr money for 25% of yr business (10 times more than u asked for)

  • @jeffgachihi8225
    @jeffgachihi8225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    What madness leads you to bet you'll get offers from ALL FIVE Dragons when Jenny's around...

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He got four offers. Aim for the stars, you might reach the moon.

    • @nezarelmasleh4140
      @nezarelmasleh4140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that shows poor decision making for that reason i m out

    • @schwantzrossi1266
      @schwantzrossi1266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh but Jenny is so fit... seriously.

    • @mxrella
      @mxrella 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wdym fit with the double chin 😭​@@schwantzrossi1266

  • @HHHKingofKings58
    @HHHKingofKings58 4 ปีที่แล้ว +462

    "Jenny, if you make an offer then I'll win a bet."
    "Every other dragon has made an offer so why wouldn't I? I'm out."

  • @jeffgachihi8225
    @jeffgachihi8225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    12:41 he sent Tej back to his vitamins before dismissing Touker to his bed.

    • @takfak6212
      @takfak6212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :D

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looooool

    • @kendalson7817
      @kendalson7817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha. Take your supplements Tej.

    • @milannoelle1576
      @milannoelle1576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      *dismissing Touker to his office space in London

    • @norman1741
      @norman1741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That was nothing funny. In fact, i wouldnt want to invest any penny in this guy's company or his app.

  • @TheLifeOfDan1
    @TheLifeOfDan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Jesus christ! How can he just do Tej dirty like that. He’s one of my fave dragons.

  • @Anna.T.
    @Anna.T. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Personally I would have gone with Taj on this one - even after being rejected he still wanted to work with these guys and offered them exactly what they wanted. He clearly had his heart set on these guys.

    • @eleanorcooke7136
      @eleanorcooke7136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, they told him the offer that they would accept, then Tej made it and they turned him down. What does that say to the other dragons? That even if they give the offer and lower what they are asking for then these guys won't really appreciate the sacrifice and investment.

    • @celestinetoussaint6350
      @celestinetoussaint6350 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eleanorcooke7136 that was so...Im at a loss for words when it comes to these entrepreneurs.

  • @sinchasin3611
    @sinchasin3611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +939

    He alienated Tej. That was horrible.

    • @maryamkim1281
      @maryamkim1281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @fyoukim12 the guy is bit weird looking himself.

    • @stupidtreehugger
      @stupidtreehugger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      14:30 "How to deal with this now". No dude, you effed up. You shat on Tej's offer. Go forth and don't multiply.

    • @AshPPPPPPPP
      @AshPPPPPPPP 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maryam Kim will laugh at your broke ass

    • @ariyoakinlosotu6781
      @ariyoakinlosotu6781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that's mean and you sound racist.

    • @blazeron12
      @blazeron12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      It was also just dumb. To say you want deborah and Peter you are giving them leverage over you. Immediately after he asks them to move on equity, why would they though? you just told them you want them!

  • @lucascolantoni8012
    @lucascolantoni8012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    These guys are probably the worst entrepreneurs I’ve seen as far as negotiating. I have never seen anyone show their cards AND have ignorant levels of stubbornness wrapped up in an intolerable sandwich

  • @liviumarginean1474
    @liviumarginean1474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    You know what? None of them should have invested, based on how they treated Tej and Touker. The other 2 should have immediately said: I'm out!

    • @Don-Carillo
      @Don-Carillo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      You don't get as rich as them by having morals

    • @RealityCheck6T9
      @RealityCheck6T9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Don-Carillo you're both right. If I was in their position, I would have demanded an apology for the other Dragons.

    • @gaysy1st
      @gaysy1st 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I agree. When Peter said "On the basis of the way you've handled this" ... I expected him to say he was out. Instead he says "I'm feeling a little bit strange about it". After the guy said if anyone could offer £125,000 for 5%, he'd do the deal, Tej offers that & gets rejected. They should have taught him a lesson.

    • @Welshy
      @Welshy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gaysy1st why? none of them are there to stand on some moral highground, they're all there to make themselves more money in businesses, if you think this is bad then i hate to tell you its pretty standard

    • @SS-qp2ex
      @SS-qp2ex ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but the other 2 were the soulless ones, so what do u expect

  • @StorytellerDan
    @StorytellerDan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Lol - Jenny asks what theyre doing in the Den. Every viewer wants to ask her the same question.

  • @llow1170
    @llow1170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Imagine unironically mentioning your "Banksy art collection".

    • @lizclegg7556
      @lizclegg7556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He clearly knows nothing about Art if he's actually collecting Banksy.

    • @SuperNuclearUnicorn
      @SuperNuclearUnicorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Banksy would have a fit if he found out some tosser sold a bunch of his art to start some white collar tech company that uses words like "disrupt"
      It's like the opposite of what Banksy stands for

  • @captainhindsight8779
    @captainhindsight8779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    Jenny: you’re going to lose your bet, and do you know why? Because you failed to consider the basic principle of the dragons den... I never invest, and I’m out 👋

    • @a_bb_a6356
      @a_bb_a6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If this isn’t the gospel truth

    • @jimsuniverse4954
      @jimsuniverse4954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amen 😆 everybody knows Jens dead broke 😆

    • @closetome
      @closetome 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahahaha

    • @oliver6969
      @oliver6969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i actually like that she's on the show, if she ever does invest it's a real shock and it's funny af counting the times she doesn't invest

    • @spicehaven209
      @spicehaven209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nailed it

  • @jeffgachihi8225
    @jeffgachihi8225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Touker will crankily get up in the morning for 4% .

  • @stevencoffone288
    @stevencoffone288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    “We actually don’t need the money.”
    Jenny: You’ve come to the right place.

  • @kurusmusic
    @kurusmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    How's he gonna be called Brian Smiley and not even smile

    • @thomasmees3953
      @thomasmees3953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      *palpatine voice* it’s ironic

    • @HomebaseLHR
      @HomebaseLHR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He’s Scottish. They’re never smiling.

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it can be the company's logo.

    • @Tom135
      @Tom135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      he did though

    • @dunkindoughnut167
      @dunkindoughnut167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The other guy was called McGrith and he didn't even McGrith himself off.

  • @alexandergunn8693
    @alexandergunn8693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Touker: "I don't get out of bed for 4%, but if you make it 10% I'll give you some office space in London"

  • @AJ-st5tj
    @AJ-st5tj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Tej is very underrated , he is the real dragon here

  • @g9isaac
    @g9isaac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Very clever negotiating tactic at the end from Deborah and Peter even if it wasn't intentional, they made the entrepreneur's feel bad about rejecting the other two Dragons so they felt they had no choice but to accept the terms of the offer they gave them.

    • @rubenlier8013
      @rubenlier8013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The deal never went through tho

  • @spacecowboy6667
    @spacecowboy6667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Jenny: Lists all the reasons she thinks it's a good idea and why it'll succeed.
    Also Jenny: And on that basis, I'm out.

  • @iancampbell9297
    @iancampbell9297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    The way he spoke too Tej was out of order..

    • @jimbean1371
      @jimbean1371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it wasn’t... what he did was actually very clever and ballsy, he knew he didn’t come in to get Tej on board and he wasn’t the type of dragon he was looking for so for him to straight up decline the offer is actually very respectable not wanting to waste his or Tej’s time. It also put pressure on the other dragon’s as he showed he was going to be ruthless with his own decision making and was prepared to walk away in a second if the deal didn’t suit him. Shrewd business.

    • @SirLink_
      @SirLink_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@jimbean1371 no, he was just a dick

    • @khansahib7110
      @khansahib7110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jimbean1371 so why did he say he would do the deal for 5% knowing peter wouldnt budge?!

    • @jimbean1371
      @jimbean1371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SirLink you don’t understand business psychology. But that’s fine not everyone does.

    • @SirLink_
      @SirLink_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jimbean1371 and you do? lmao give me a break

  • @misshaya5701
    @misshaya5701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    “And which dragon would you like”
    “Er ideally all 5 of yous”
    *All make an offer except Jenny
    “Tej we decline your offer” “Touker we decline your offer”
    *looking straight at Deborah and Peter 🙄🤡
    I felt bad for Tej. Very badly handled by the entrepreneur.

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Right?? They could have had 4 dragons, which would have been a huge gain for them! But no, they rudely and arrogantly spat right in their faces.

    • @lefoolish1989
      @lefoolish1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know right it was trump card, if the card could flip the table and shoot the other players
      they gave a bad play and lost big

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    What a pillock. Had several Dragons fighting to get their business, and they let their ego nearly ruin it all went wound up giving away nearly double the equity they were originally offered.

  • @darleschickens7106
    @darleschickens7106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I feel bad for Tej... he clearly really loved it and wanted to be involved from the get-go

  • @stavrosgiannaros7041
    @stavrosgiannaros7041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    im close to winning a sportsmans bet!
    Tuka: All 5 Dragons?
    (Tuka: Clearly you dont know Jenny)

  • @darkerarts
    @darkerarts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Wish they had all turned them down after that ending

  • @VodkaHellstorm
    @VodkaHellstorm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I hate when one of the Dragons will have a minor moral issue with a product and go off on one, yet without fail they'll all sit there with straight faces on tech pitches and say "well how can we take advantage of the users' data?"

  • @scottsmith9192
    @scottsmith9192 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I secretly hoped they would all deny them, Tej don’t deserve that, he turned smug pretty quick. I’m all for not accepting and standing up for yourself, but the rudeness.

  • @Bookofwords
    @Bookofwords 4 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    sending apps...bypassing stores...sounds to me like an easy target for hackers

    • @nickyjohnson4186
      @nickyjohnson4186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      It’s no different to saving a web page to your home screen; it works in the same way.

    • @zammo1036
      @zammo1036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nicky Johnson it’s very different.

    • @JaySiggz
      @JaySiggz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@syc8066 Im sorry but you're wrong. Web technology doesn't have access to mobile hardware in the same way native web app does. This is basic web development knowledge 101

    • @JaySiggz
      @JaySiggz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@syc8066 So actually, it is quite insecure to be able to download native apps onto your phone which have not been approved in any way.

    • @TehBadGamerz12
      @TehBadGamerz12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@JaySiggz Because they aren't formulated as a native web app, it is literally just saving a template mobile friendly website, it would not work without internet connection, its basically a fancy link. basic computer knowledge 101

  • @mrm5183
    @mrm5183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Imagine being Tej?😩 offering what they wanted only for the pitcher to say “you’re out” and go with Peter who wanted 3x the amount of equity😩

  • @expertexcavatinginc
    @expertexcavatinginc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "I invested $150,000 in the business"
    Seconds later:
    "I sold my two houses and my Banksy art collection"
    🙄 I've never heard of someone owning a Banksy collection and then being broke suddenly

  • @user-ci3xc5bz5h
    @user-ci3xc5bz5h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    OK, so this whole time I've thought that the Jenny jokes were a little too much. After this episode, I can confirm that they stand firmly and I will stand by them. Wow.
    What a ridiculous thing she has done. Really validated every Jenny joke.

    • @msstarlight4770
      @msstarlight4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I totally agree, I thought the exact same thing until I saw this episode!

    • @al5612
      @al5612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I agree in majority of cases, but this one shouldn't be used as an example. She's competing with 4 other dragons who by themselves are way more competitive, let alone the offers they presented. She just was not going to win a deal on this episode, and rather than devalue her name by competing, she decided to save face (which is very valuable for a brand,) and declare herself out.

    • @RealityCheck6T9
      @RealityCheck6T9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@al5612 Accrington Stanley probably won't beat Liverpool. Should they just stop playing?

    • @Jenny-uz1un
      @Jenny-uz1un 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I would love to reply to this comment, but i'm out

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The guy basically crowed about winning a bet before letting her speak. I'd opt out myself just to make him lose and teach him a lesson.
      Frankly a part of me is disappointed he reached an agreement at all in the end. He was a bit of an arse.

  • @jenapolvino5974
    @jenapolvino5974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    I’m just here for the Jenny jokes.

    • @lifegoals9528
      @lifegoals9528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      OK Grandad, that's so last year.

    • @elitelevi2948
      @elitelevi2948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Gregory's Goals sorry ‘gregory’

    • @BradT44
      @BradT44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you play fortnite calm down

    • @elitelevi2948
      @elitelevi2948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not Comfy if the only thing you can insult me on is that i like a video game, you must feel really proud of yourself lmao

    • @markperryman1797
      @markperryman1797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Jenny comments aren't even funny....are they?, Seriously, They've all been the same.....

  • @formulafanatic5813
    @formulafanatic5813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    9:58 the reason you’re here.

  • @rangers2721
    @rangers2721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Entrepreneur: Someone's interested in investing
    Jenny: Nervous laugh

  • @darkaquatus
    @darkaquatus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Jenny: "This business fits me perfectly, you guys seem highly investible, your numbers look very promising and I see some real longevity in it. And for those reasons I'm out."

  • @BaileyBaratheon
    @BaileyBaratheon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Entrepreneur: Hello there, I'm looking to sell 25% of my business
    Jenny: *inquisitive and intrigued look*
    Entrepreneur: For £1
    Jenny: I'm out

    • @acesigma06
      @acesigma06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mason Johnson I will give the full amount ...but I want 101% of the company, I did money boxes, did I say,

  • @maddiem-j9538
    @maddiem-j9538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Jenny- ‘I personally don’t get excited about it’
    Me- you don’t get excited about anything ffs

    • @rayenbow3281
      @rayenbow3281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She does ...
      The EXIT sign.

    • @davidmg1925
      @davidmg1925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that Matter may have been discuused here....

    • @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels
      @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jenny worked for a big bank that ended up in government hands and walked away with a big pay off. Entrepreneur she ain't.

    • @chukkachick1879
      @chukkachick1879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mad's 01270 😅😅😑

  • @stp22
    @stp22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Jenny has created a new app called "I'm out" available now for Android and iOS

    • @thedunyadoneya2628
      @thedunyadoneya2628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So it's out now?

    • @abdulquddus667
      @abdulquddus667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s always been out 😂😂😂😂

    • @LetPlay4You
      @LetPlay4You 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its a cool app and for that reason im out

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She has developed copywrites on the word "out" anywhere it's being used.

    • @pdan4
      @pdan4 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      iMout

  • @owenb8636
    @owenb8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Peter always asks for way higher equity and gets it so many times

  • @matthewbell4273
    @matthewbell4273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tej took that like a gentleman.

  • @EstoniaParody
    @EstoniaParody 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    2:16
    Entreprenaurs: somebody is interested in investing
    Jenny: (yeah, not me)

  • @szahmad2416
    @szahmad2416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This wasn’t a business negotiation so much as a hostage crisis.

  • @ron7831
    @ron7831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Them: "We're a company that builds apps that go straight to the home screen bypassing the app store"
    Peter: "I have no idea of tech, but have you ever heard of 'Big Data', that seems to be the next big thing despite having nothing to do with your business whatsoever"
    Them: "We have no idea of Big Data either, but sure throw it into the package"
    Me: "I'm an AI specialist, therefore, I'm Jenny"

    • @OtDawn
      @OtDawn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha..

  • @rendogsbiggestfan
    @rendogsbiggestfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    These aren't apps, they're literally just websites that look like apps. Disappointing to say the least.

    • @JaySiggz
      @JaySiggz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most apps are being built this way today. Research cordova.

    • @rendogsbiggestfan
      @rendogsbiggestfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JaySiggz only around 7 percent of apps on the app store use this. It's quite limiting compared to the norm.

    • @JaySiggz
      @JaySiggz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rendogsbiggestfan Sure but I said most apps are built this way. I'm not talking about what already exists. There are millions of apps on app stores, many built years ago. This technology is new so it would be ridiculous to think that most apps use it. You don't even need to research to disprove that.
      The technology is incredibly limiting but most apps do not require the benefits of native hardware. Most apps don't do heavy duty computation on the client side, rather, most operations are done via some sort of rest API and servers do the heavy lifting. It is easier to hire people to build apps this way as there are plenty of full web stack devs and it can be built once for all platforms. Businesses want to minimize costs so they will gladly take an insignificant performance cost.

    • @MrLifeKills
      @MrLifeKills 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JaySiggz yeah, but if you're already building a responsive website then it's pretty trivial to package it as an app. I fall to see what problem this solves.

  • @danfelbm
    @danfelbm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    App stores exist for a reason... this has huge liability problems. And the technology isn’t really disruptive: web to app has been there for years, and there are many reputable companies doing it.
    The interesting part was the integration with Wix. That’s very clever...

  • @MrBlitzpunk
    @MrBlitzpunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    People alway joke about how Jenny never made an offer. But i actually feel bad that Tej rarely got his offer accepted, despite it being very competitive

  • @lauralishes1
    @lauralishes1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I can't bear even listening to Jenny asking questions, it's never questions about investing it's always questions to wriggle out of investing. Or why it's a bad idea.

  • @sirplantain
    @sirplantain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I wonder if they regret alienating the other dragons? Given the state of the company now, I suspect that they probably are!

  • @nazzawirockful
    @nazzawirockful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I feel so bad for Taj ;(

    • @davidmellish3295
      @davidmellish3295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah let's feel bad for the man who's worth £300 million, poor Taj didn't get to invest

    • @davidmellish3295
      @davidmellish3295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tom Goldenheart I didn't say anything about being rude,I just said I don't feel sorry for him

    • @nazzawirockful
      @nazzawirockful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      David Mellish I don’t care if he is worth 300m but man being rejected like that even after he accepted his terms is painful man

    • @AH-zx8jt
      @AH-zx8jt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *Tej

    • @rockroyaltymc
      @rockroyaltymc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Tej is always nice and a class act, so I also felt bad for him.

  • @porkwoofles3909
    @porkwoofles3909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This show is actually amazing.

  • @SolanaGalaxy
    @SolanaGalaxy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Jenny: "Why wouldn't i make an offer" and for that reason i'm out.

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Peter's look when the 2nd guy started talking: "Oh for fuck's sake, it's like having to listen to Duncan all over again..."

  • @user-hl6ub4gf9u
    @user-hl6ub4gf9u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man I really hoped Deborah and Peter would pull out after how they treated Touker and Tej. They didn’t deserve the investment. Arrogant not confident

  • @thegodcalzs
    @thegodcalzs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jenny: “youve ticked all the boxes, you’re clearly on the right path, so why wouldn’t I make an offer? And for that reason, I’m out.”

  • @sire5582
    @sire5582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    He shot himself in the foot when he said he is about to win a bet. Immediately gave Jenny a reason to be out. She comes across as that kind of spiteful person to be honest. The only offers Jenny seems to ever make are to good looking men or just completely bizzar business ideas that literally have zero meaning.

    • @thebestofenergy
      @thebestofenergy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Shot himself in the foot by having Jenny go out? You mean saved time.

    • @theodddish1846
      @theodddish1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jenny doesn't need a reason to be out

    • @jimmyneutron129
      @jimmyneutron129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look After My Bills was not a completely bizzar business idea I think

    • @andrewjames3579
      @andrewjames3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @andrewjames3579
      @andrewjames3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thebestofenergy lmao

  • @raalaa121
    @raalaa121 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely sense a bit of racism. Tej offered the clown exactly what he wanted. Yet he doesn't want Tej or Touker.

    • @NoNo-uy2bq
      @NoNo-uy2bq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It did seem like such a bizarre decision

  • @alanphysio
    @alanphysio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can’t be that clever- they bet they would get 5 offers when Jenny was around 🤣🤣

  • @BlindDweller
    @BlindDweller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Jenny: “Just leaves me! How are you feeling?”
    Entrepreneurs: “Goo-“
    Jenny: “I’m out.”

  • @escfxp
    @escfxp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glorified web pages is essentially what this business is. Not actually apps and are very limited in what they can do. Apple and Google will never relinquish control of Apps for a number of reasons.

  • @creechhunt5922
    @creechhunt5922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way he hugged Peter honestly reminded me of Dopey hugging Snow White.
    I love how the cameraman zoomed out just to show the difference in size...

  • @quarryspanish
    @quarryspanish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Peter: Im gonna make you an offer
    Debra: Im gonna make you an offer
    Tej: Im gonna make you an offer
    Tuka: Im gonna make you an offer
    Jenny: Imma head out

  • @sirplantain
    @sirplantain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One year has passed since I last watched this video. My opinion of Brian hasn't changed, I still think he's an arrogant man. How anyone can work with him, I don't know. I would hate to have to deal with him, in any capacity.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Dragon Slayers.

  • @karmajarrule
    @karmajarrule 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    12:47 Tej plotting their murders

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      By sending them free vitamins laced with polonium?

  • @raptorlewis
    @raptorlewis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Jenny shafted this man's bet because she can't force herself to invest smdh

  • @Chris_34
    @Chris_34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:04 Touker's face tho🤣

  • @harrybanda
    @harrybanda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Installing apks from unknown sources? No thanks.

    • @waterdudedev
      @waterdudedev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nothing scary about that inherently.

    • @sierrahhofzon3878
      @sierrahhofzon3878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nothing scary. Only keyloggers, Trojans and viruses.

    • @lainwired3946
      @lainwired3946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It's not an APK, it's basically a bookmark to a website on your home screen. Their platform looks like an app and they're easy to build, but it's just a fancy website wrapper.

    • @crapitoutjim
      @crapitoutjim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harry Banda wtf is a apks?

    • @lainwired3946
      @lainwired3946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@crapitoutjim it's an android app file. Sort of like an exe on windows (more like an msi installer but let's make this easy)

  • @Evilgidgit4Ever
    @Evilgidgit4Ever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Entrepreneurs: Hello, Dragons.
    Jenny: I'm out.

  • @TheAbuFulaan
    @TheAbuFulaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can’t believe Peter accepted that deal, the man has no back bone

    • @alan6839
      @alan6839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's a businessman. He's not going to risk losing out on a potentially successfully investment just because Deborah's feelings got hurt. lol

    • @TheAbuFulaan
      @TheAbuFulaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Alan I completely understand why he accepted that deal. I acknowledge that this approach is the school of thought that many people adopt, that “if it makes money, I’m involved no matter what” mentality.
      However that doesn’t negate the fact that this school of thought has an effect on ones standing on morality, honour and principles, Peter is at the stage where no matter what business venture he involves himself in, it’s not going to make him afford something which he can’t afford already, which is why many other successful entrepreneurs such as Deborah adopt the other school of thought, where she wouldn’t get involved because the sugar levels in your product were just a little too high.
      It wasn’t Deborah I was referring to, I was referring to the fact that the man clearly said that he’s happy to accept a deal of 5% at 125,000 if someone offered it to him. When Tej followed up on this and accepted the offer, he abruptly, rudely and arrogantly declined, he could have just waited out for the others to make the same offer. On top of that, when Jenny asked him if he’s here for a particular dragon, he mentioned he wanted offers from all of them, which was a lie, because when offers from Tej and Touker came, he declined there offers, he declined touker before touker even said anything.
      All these factors would put off someone who holds these principles and morals a lot more dear to their heart than money. If your colleague was insulted on national television but you still go into business with the one who insulted him, then I’m sorry, you have no backbone.

    • @TheAbuFulaan
      @TheAbuFulaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pol Fartin I had to google what that meant. Ironic coming from a man who’s called fartin.
      In all honesty, if you believe that principles and characteristics such as dignity, integrity, honour, honesty and morals are of little value to you, then that says a lot about you as an individual

    • @TheAbuFulaan
      @TheAbuFulaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pol Fartin it’s called giving someone a taste of their own medicine. Defending yourself doesn’t negate any of those qualities.
      It’s quite ironic and paradoxical that the one who began with the insults, is upset and questioning someone who insulted him back, that’s like slapping someone and then wondering why they slapped you back.
      Get your priorities right my friend, you’re clearly lost.

    • @proliferatingprofligate7032
      @proliferatingprofligate7032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheAbuFulaan I wouldn't consider them colleagues. They're literally competing with each other for investment opportunities.

  • @shutupntakemymoni
    @shutupntakemymoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The way he acted shows how massive his ego is. Yes they came for 2 dragons, but that was just unneccessary and upright disrespectful.

    • @vikvegas8593
      @vikvegas8593 ปีที่แล้ว

      And what about all the times the dragon's disrespect people?

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The dragons are not the topic, keep up.@@vikvegas8593

  • @swiftrealm
    @swiftrealm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    To the non tech savvy, the business is interesting. But working in the field, I can assure you these people are hacks.
    Here's why:
    1- Their platform just puts a website made by Wix into a container that they call an "app". You're basically running a webpage with a fancy icon on your home screen.
    2- The quality of their "apps" is far from being close to something that an actual mobile developer took months or years to develop.
    3- They're bypassing the app stores for a reason: they're websites. Not apps. Apple would reject this immediately.
    They don't have a viable business long term, and if they lose Wix at any point it is the end of the line for them. They're also rash and delusional in general.
    We make fun of Jenny but I stick with her here: out.

    • @shea42
      @shea42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not to mention that newer versions of Android have made it increasingly difficult to install apps from unverified sources

    • @princesspeaches8525
      @princesspeaches8525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the same the second they said 'bypass the app store'

    • @afsheenshargh8036
      @afsheenshargh8036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@princesspeaches8525 as soon as they said yes to touker when he asked if it will go straight to the phones' front page after one click, i thought something was not right. i thought thre best case scenario it's either just a glorified bookmark. or worst case scenario its a serious security risk.

    • @clanravencub
      @clanravencub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'd need people to turn on third party installs, I doubt most people would. It's really really crap idea all round.
      You can already send links to your current app from either store, by whichever method. It's stupidly ridiculous.

    • @CabbageYe
      @CabbageYe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are plenty of webview apps on the Android play store and I'm sure they also exist on iOS

  • @kait2972
    @kait2972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "My videos don't get many hits on TH-cam."
    "Pay us and we'll host your vids on an obscure website that nobody's heard of."
    "I'm out."

  • @reecetaylor1415
    @reecetaylor1415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Touker:”are all 5 dragons gonna make an offer”
    Me:”no”

  • @jadethornton7975
    @jadethornton7975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They knew what they wanted (take no prisoners style). its not personal its just business. i personally couldn't be like that. Taj knows how to handle rejection. If you listen to some of his non dragon interviews he also knows how to handle success without it all going to his head. he's incredibly smart and unusually gentle in his thoughts.

  • @TheLadylexy
    @TheLadylexy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After seeing what he just did to Tej, I would not want to go into business with someone like that. Next time it could be me he's shafting.

  • @DMG118
    @DMG118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Peter: I'll offer you all of the money, for 10 percent; but I also want 10 percent of your back garden

  • @falgunpatil2372
    @falgunpatil2372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Peter is talking about "big data" as "hidden treasure" and they should have gone on excursion to locate that. Now I understand why they say half knowledge is very dangerous 😄😄😄

  • @ChimaChindaDev
    @ChimaChindaDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Poor Tej - he almost cried.
    11:58

  • @Jamie_Winsh
    @Jamie_Winsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never alienate dragons cos that lowers your chance of investment. He's one of those entrepreneurs who thinks he can be in control. Didn't know what was gonna happen

  • @Kittybarcode
    @Kittybarcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Peter and Deborah should have pulled out too. Teaching that obnoxious man a lesson . What happened to “we invest in people “ ?

  • @giselletdc1871
    @giselletdc1871 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Poor Tej! He is a humble guy!

  • @seymorebutts2478
    @seymorebutts2478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jesus that was tense. Mon the Scots!!!

  • @unidentifiedmadman4080
    @unidentifiedmadman4080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jenny: I’m only here for the free glass of water and for that reason I’m out

  • @jasonbrown825
    @jasonbrown825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this one

  • @MatecaCorp
    @MatecaCorp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even if I hadn’t said I was out beforehand, the moment he said the thing about the “sportsman’s bet” I would’ve jumped ship. I’m not going to give money to someone who makes bets about my money, especially if they are going to brag about it.

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    They way they were talking about "big data" convinces me they don't know what they were talking about and just throwing around buzzwords.
    Also RIP Tej

    • @fryliver4953
      @fryliver4953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tell us what it really means then

  • @skymanross
    @skymanross 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Dragons are professional and think with their wallet. I doubt Tej was emotional at all about this he even clapped for them when they got Peter.

  • @matane.5427
    @matane.5427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the "tech giant" has to ask what an industry leader and a unicorn as Wix does, he isn't worth 5-10% more in equity than the rest.

  • @thedunyadoneya2628
    @thedunyadoneya2628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:17 - "what will the dragon do?"
    "Open doors"
    "Sorry, I'm married and my husband opens the door, I'm out"