My wife and I have been together for fifty years and I’ve always owned bikes. My Burgman 200 is the only scooter I’ve ever had and it’s the only two wheeler I’ve owned that she’s ever asked to go out on for a second time! They are surprisingly enjoyable to ride, comfortable for the passenger (!) and really very practical.
I have a 2020 Bergman 200 in Florida. I avg 70mpg but I prefer this ride over my R6, FZ-07 or z125. Easy to ride, very nimble, quick in city traffic and tons of storage not to mention great gas mileage. Btw, im 205 pounds and it’ll go 75mph easy with me on it.
I bought one of these last year, have been commuting (~40 miles round trip per day) whenever the weather is nice and I love it. Smooth ride, I generally stay off the interstate and beltway (I-95 and I-495) because people drive crazy, but ride on 2-3 lane highways where the speed limit is 55-65 and I have no trouble keeping up with traffic (215-pound rider). I love the automatic transmission, don’t have to worry about carpal tunnel in my hands with having to clutch all the time. Definitely agree that the glove boxes are great for my cellphone and other things, keep my riding gear and helmet in the trunk under the seat. He’s right that mileage gets better when it’s warm, I’m up to 85 mpg right now.
It's been unusually hard to find an American that'll tell ya what the top speed is. THANK YOU. Other websites give a wild top speed range from 65-79 & I knew those weren't right
I commute every day on this same bike and have just turned 4000 mi. My thoughts: --it's so much more fun and pleasant to ride without the silly windscreen --I've tried all grades of fuel and can't tell the diff, so I just get the cheapest gas --I'm much happier, overall, after downsizing from larger bikes to this 200. Navigating the suburbs and city is a pleasure on a lightweight and nimble bike. My last couple bikes were a big Ducati and a big Moto Guzzi,..I don't miss them a bit.
I agree, amazing machine, I’m short so the windshield is fine for me now that I’ve added the small lip screen too it, mpg’s are great, tires are not very expensive, my pilot pure sc I put on the rear has already outlasted the stock rear tire and barely looks worn at all. Great storage, adequate power. Hard for me to find any “real” short comings with this scooter. I’ll be doing a little review on the pilot pure tires in the next few days so subscribe so you don’t miss it 👍
Nice info buddy ... nimble riding in city streets with large cargo capacity under the seat for groceries and deliverables is what I need. I think tomorrow I'm pulling the trigger on a lightly used 1,500 miles on odometer 2020 Burgman 200cc ... looking forward to riding it in SF and suburbs of Silicon Valley. I'm not rich like the techies all around me so I like the affordability of it too. Ride safe ya'll.
All engines get better mileage in the summer. The hotter they run, the better the mileage. Not an oil viscosity thing, though that helps too. The hotter the combustion, the more energy. Energy=heat. This is why the OEM's are going for higher and higher thermostat temp.
The burgman 400 does 85 not the 200, I have gotten maybe 75mph if that, most guys are only doing 70mph at very high rpm, it's only a 200, I have 2023 400 tops out at 85
These scooters and maxi scooters are truly awsome, I have a Burgman 400 and a Honda Helix (250) I also have 3 Vtwin motorcycles and as said before in the comments you will find motorcycle riders expecially when they get older, loving these scooters and not riding their other bikes as much, they are quick, nimble and much easier to ride and FUN, I think that the smaller ones 50cc are too dangerous in traffic as they just cant keep up, I do like speed and think that the larger maxi scooters are just right perhaps 200cc and above, I think if someone is doing more highway riding than town riding I would go 400cc and above, my burg 400 will do 60 - 70MPH with ease like its nothing and maxs out at about 95, I will add that I think its very important to service your bike correctly and get really good tires and always maintain proper PSI,,,,ALSO the Burgman speedometer is about 3 -5MPH generous
Also, colder and denser air means more fuel to keep the same air:fuel ratio. Basically the less dense and warmer summer air leans out the mix. I mean, it sounds good in theory anyway. Humidity could also be a factor.
Hot air in the summer could also help keeping wheel bearings warmer than in cold air months. I have tested coasting my standard tranny Toyota Corolla in neutral down a hill on an interstate from the same 65mph start speed at the top. I drift farther before dropping below 60mph and gain speed above 65pmh more in the summer than in winter.
6k OTD from the dealership near me. I think I’ll wait like you and buy one used. Thanks for the video! Looks like a fun scooter- I’m on the ADV 150 and love it but wish it was a 200 so bad.
Yeah, the new price is a little steep, I paid 2800 with only 1k miles on it. Buying used is definitely the way to go for the baby Burgman in my opinion
Brilliant relaxed video, really enjoyed it especially as it is on my shortlist - but I have to be careful because I believe they have stopped selling them in the UK! What state are you in Sir, nearly as beautiful as the UK! lol
Great video! I'm just over the border into Georgia, further south however. Anyway, I have a Burgman 650 and have a health issue so I want to downsize. What is the tallest a rider could be that you think would be comfortable riding this on country road rides, not highway?
May look into the Honda pcx150 or the new pcx160, they have a non step thru design and MIGHT be a tiny bit more comfortable for taller riders but I’m not 100% sure
Well done review bro. Enjoyed it. Not so long ago I rode the Tmax and that one is really a rocket. :) Can check my test ride if you are interested. You got my like here. Keep it up.
Not really, I find it to be good for my weight 170# I’m only on it for 40min at a time while commuting to work, but I’ve ridden it for the past 9 work days in a row and I’m not ever sore
Mine is for sell lol it is a great machine, especially for what I use it for, commuting for work. I would keep it if I had more garage space but I’m planning to start commuting on my dr650
I'm buying a 2020 Burgman 200 tomorrow most likely ... my question is: what is the best (largest) rear cargo rack and enclosure I can put on it by the dealer that I am buying it from. Interested in your opinion about aftermarket rear cargo rack you guys recommend for groceries and restaurant delivery side hustle. (EDIT 10 Oct 2023 - Bought the 2020 used 200 cc. But returned it for a new 400 cc after riding the 200 home 30 miles at 75 mph cruising speed. I didn't feel comfortable cruising at 7,500-8,500 RPM not giving me any room to accelerate out of a tight spot in traffic. Two days later the dealer worked with me to accept the 200 cc back with no depreciation for the 60 miles I put on it to allow me to buy the 400 cc newer model.)
Not sure on the biggest but mine had the Suzuki top box, I assume they only have one size, if you get an aftermarket one, from a company like shad, then they have different sizes you can choose from
I changed the oil at 290 miles . If I fill and check correctly according to the manual the dip stick comes up low. I’ll have to add to 1400 ml to bring it up and this is wrong according to the manual.
i want a honda trail 125 to do the cannonball run. it has to be 279 cc or less but i can't find one anywhere. but i have a honda silverwing and love it but its to large to make that run. and i like the burgman 650 and the 400. so i started looking at one of these to see if maybe i want one to try and make that run on and what the reviews are so thanks for posting this. this is just the 2nd of alot of videos i will be watching before i make up my mind.
It will definitely outrun the little Honda 125 and also carry a lot more on board however fuel economy wouldn’t be quite as good. I would also love to do the scooter cannon ball someday, especially after watching quasimotard’s videos about it 👍
But for what it’s worth, I’m comfortable running it right up against wide open throttle without much worry about the engine, there is little to no vibration at almost full throttle (80ish mph) and the engine is very over-square in design so it doesn’t mind the high rpm
@@DirtRider22a Yeah they have the memory capacity of elephants. My wife brings up things at times I did 24 years ago and I cant remember what I even ate for breakfast.
You need to get a pencil style air gage due to the wheels being such small diameter, other than that it’s just like checking any other vehicle. If you pop the seat there should be a sticker with recommended tire pressures
i just bought brand new burgman 200 2023 LOVE IT!!!!
My wife and I have been together for fifty years and I’ve always owned bikes. My Burgman 200 is the only scooter I’ve ever had and it’s the only two wheeler I’ve owned that she’s ever asked to go out on for a second time! They are surprisingly enjoyable to ride, comfortable for the passenger (!) and really very practical.
Mine did great on the interstate after I got used to being blown around. After 100 miles of practice it handled medium traffic like a boss.
I have a 2020 Bergman 200 in Florida. I avg 70mpg but I prefer this ride over my R6, FZ-07 or z125. Easy to ride, very nimble, quick in city traffic and tons of storage not to mention great gas mileage. Btw, im 205 pounds and it’ll go 75mph easy with me on it.
I have a Burgman 400 and love it.
I just got the bike today
I am about 131 lbs and on the freeway in the slow lane 65 mph to 70 mph no issues.
I bought one of these last year, have been commuting (~40 miles round trip per day) whenever the weather is nice and I love it. Smooth ride, I generally stay off the interstate and beltway (I-95 and I-495) because people drive crazy, but ride on 2-3 lane highways where the speed limit is 55-65 and I have no trouble keeping up with traffic (215-pound rider). I love the automatic transmission, don’t have to worry about carpal tunnel in my hands with having to clutch all the time. Definitely agree that the glove boxes are great for my cellphone and other things, keep my riding gear and helmet in the trunk under the seat. He’s right that mileage gets better when it’s warm, I’m up to 85 mpg right now.
It's been unusually hard to find an American that'll tell ya what the top speed is. THANK YOU. Other websites give a wild top speed range from 65-79 & I knew those weren't right
Yeah, it shouldn’t vary that much, I weigh 170 and I’ve had a passenger weight of 300 before and in both cases I was able to hit 80mph
I Love my 2020 Suzuki Burgman 400
Her name is Brandy...and she is Black and beautiful
Look forward to more posts on this scooter..Such a huge help for me thanks
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I commute every day on this same bike and have just turned 4000 mi. My thoughts:
--it's so much more fun and pleasant to ride without the silly windscreen
--I've tried all grades of fuel and can't tell the diff, so I just get the cheapest gas
--I'm much happier, overall, after downsizing from larger bikes to this 200. Navigating the suburbs and city is a pleasure on a lightweight and nimble bike. My last couple bikes were a big Ducati and a big Moto Guzzi,..I don't miss them a bit.
I agree, amazing machine, I’m short so the windshield is fine for me now that I’ve added the small lip screen too it, mpg’s are great, tires are not very expensive, my pilot pure sc I put on the rear has already outlasted the stock rear tire and barely looks worn at all. Great storage, adequate power. Hard for me to find any “real” short comings with this scooter. I’ll be doing a little review on the pilot pure tires in the next few days so subscribe so you don’t miss it 👍
I know I used to ride a CBR600R and went to a PCX150. I gave up freeway riding and just ride in city. A 600 Supersport in city riding is misery.
Nice info buddy ... nimble riding in city streets with large cargo capacity under the seat for groceries and deliverables is what I need. I think tomorrow I'm pulling the trigger on a lightly used 1,500 miles on odometer 2020 Burgman 200cc ... looking forward to riding it in SF and suburbs of Silicon Valley. I'm not rich like the techies all around me so I like the affordability of it too. Ride safe ya'll.
The warmer climate keeps the engine warmer which will improve mpg. It's not because of oil temperature, its because of engine block temperature.
Almost to 500 subs bro, keep it up.
Getting close 👍
All engines get better mileage in the summer. The hotter they run, the better the mileage. Not an oil viscosity thing, though that helps too. The hotter the combustion, the more energy. Energy=heat. This is why the OEM's are going for higher and higher thermostat temp.
Makes sense, I’ve always just thought colder air, more dense, better performance lol just another thing I’ve learned
Smooth like butter
Sir, you live in a beautiful part of the country. Some very nice roads you were riding on, for sure. Cheers!
Thanks!! 👍
The burgman 400 does 85 not the 200, I have gotten maybe 75mph if that, most guys are only doing 70mph at very high rpm, it's only a 200, I have 2023 400 tops out at 85
These scooters and maxi scooters are truly awsome, I have a Burgman 400 and a Honda Helix (250) I also have 3 Vtwin motorcycles and as said before in the comments you will find motorcycle riders expecially when they get older, loving these scooters and not riding their other bikes as much, they are quick, nimble and much easier to ride and FUN, I think that the smaller ones 50cc are too dangerous in traffic as they just cant keep up, I do like speed and think that the larger maxi scooters are just right perhaps 200cc and above, I think if someone is doing more highway riding than town riding I would go 400cc and above, my burg 400 will do 60 - 70MPH with ease like its nothing and maxs out at about 95, I will add that I think its very important to service your bike correctly and get really good tires and always maintain proper PSI,,,,ALSO the Burgman speedometer is about 3 -5MPH generous
Agree 100%
To keep your cars/bikes fuel saving, always watch the tachy meter to keep rpm low. This is the only way to save gas.
Engine temp is thermostat regulated but gasoline mix changes to winter mix vs summer mix and that is likely making your difference.
Cold air is more dense = more air resistance. Also, poorer combustion at lower temps.
My wife has committed to getting one for herself. She had a Burgman 400 but it was just a bit too heavy for her to feel comfortable handling it.
She will probably love the 200 then, it is very light by comparison and still has plenty of get up and go 👍
We are unable to buy them out here, stopped importing at 2018. Best scooter I've ever driven.
Beautiful country you live in.
Thanks!!! 👍
The air is actually appreciably denser when it is cold out so the lower MPG is probably just from the greater air resistance.
I never considered that, I always consider colder air to help the engine perform better but didn’t think about the extra air resistance 👍
Also, colder and denser air means more fuel to keep the same air:fuel ratio. Basically the less dense and warmer summer air leans out the mix. I mean, it sounds good in theory anyway. Humidity could also be a factor.
Hot air in the summer could also help keeping wheel bearings warmer than in cold air months. I have tested coasting my standard tranny Toyota Corolla in neutral down a hill on an interstate from the same 65mph start speed at the top. I drift farther before dropping below 60mph and gain speed above 65pmh more in the summer than in winter.
6k OTD from the dealership near me. I think I’ll wait like you and buy one used. Thanks for the video! Looks like a fun scooter- I’m on the ADV 150 and love it but wish it was a 200 so bad.
Yeah, the new price is a little steep, I paid 2800 with only 1k miles on it. Buying used is definitely the way to go for the baby Burgman in my opinion
@@DirtRider22a you got a heck of a deal!
Impossible to find used even in big city area. I live in Seattle. New it's over 6k. No dealer discounts anymore on any bike
@@calgary2800the same burgman is still available at the same dealership and they still won’t budge on price- what a joke 😂
@@bobbyjoesugar there is no way I am paying over 5k for any scooter. Money is tight. Need it for car repairs.
I love that thing lol
Brilliant relaxed video, really enjoyed it especially as it is on my shortlist - but I have to be careful because I believe they have stopped selling them in the UK!
What state are you in Sir, nearly as beautiful as the UK! lol
Northwest Alabama, glad you enjoyed the video 👍
@@DirtRider22a Thank you kindly Sir.
Great video! I'm just over the border into Georgia, further south however. Anyway, I have a Burgman 650 and have a health issue so I want to downsize. What is the tallest a rider could be that you think would be comfortable riding this on country road rides, not highway?
Maybe 5’10” the hump in the seat really doesn’t let someone taller slide back on the seat very far
May look into the Honda pcx150 or the new pcx160, they have a non step thru design and MIGHT be a tiny bit more comfortable for taller riders but I’m not 100% sure
Well done review bro. Enjoyed it. Not so long ago I rode the Tmax and that one is really a rocket. :) Can check my test ride if you are interested. You got my like here. Keep it up.
Thanks!!!
Nice video mate. I have a Burgman 200 since 2009. Can you tell me wich deflector is above the windshield?
Cheap one from Amazon, I’ll see if I can find a link.
Motoparty Motorcycle Windshield Extension - Universal Adjustable Clip-on Windscreen extender- for Honda Suzuki Kawasaki Yamaha Aprilia www.amazon.com/dp/B07M7YBB3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RWSET1P8BXA7DR4BYXMX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@DirtRider22a You are very kind. Thank you.
How is the suspension after riding every day do you get sore or stiff from hitting bumps ?
Not really, I find it to be good for my weight 170# I’m only on it for 40min at a time while commuting to work, but I’ve ridden it for the past 9 work days in a row and I’m not ever sore
I have a Honda forza 300 and it’s great , about 68 mpg and what I’ve seen the forza is cheaper than the Suzuki but I’d love to have a 200 burgman
Mine is for sell lol it is a great machine, especially for what I use it for, commuting for work. I would keep it if I had more garage space but I’m planning to start commuting on my dr650
@@DirtRider22a How much $$ are you selling it for ? With how many miles on it ? What year is it ? Thank you .
I sold it for $2800 and it was a 2014 with 8k miles on it
@@DirtRider22a Thank you for answering my questions. 😊
What did you end up buying? I had a Forza too big and heavy. B200 is what I have now. Better do it all bike imo@@GarysnewYT
I want 1
Can you please tell me if this would be a good beginner bike for a 5'4 126lb woman?
My wife is 5’4” and it wasn’t too tall or heavy for her
I'm buying a 2020 Burgman 200 tomorrow most likely ... my question is: what is the best (largest) rear cargo rack and enclosure I can put on it by the dealer that I am buying it from. Interested in your opinion about aftermarket rear cargo rack you guys recommend for groceries and restaurant delivery side hustle. (EDIT 10 Oct 2023 - Bought the 2020 used 200 cc. But returned it for a new 400 cc after riding the 200 home 30 miles at 75 mph cruising speed. I didn't feel comfortable cruising at 7,500-8,500 RPM not giving me any room to accelerate out of a tight spot in traffic. Two days later the dealer worked with me to accept the 200 cc back with no depreciation for the 60 miles I put on it to allow me to buy the 400 cc newer model.)
Not sure on the biggest but mine had the Suzuki top box, I assume they only have one size, if you get an aftermarket one, from a company like shad, then they have different sizes you can choose from
GIVI Top Brand Acc. Case $ $ $' s ! !
Thinking to buy one of this, can anyone have tips about driving on freeway!?
I would want something a little bigger and faster for the freeway personally
“Added weight” 🤣
I changed the oil at 290 miles . If I fill and check correctly according to the manual the dip stick comes up low. I’ll have to add to 1400 ml to bring it up and this is wrong according to the manual.
I never worry that much about the amount the manual says it “should” take. Always go by the dip stick
i want a honda trail 125 to do the cannonball run. it has to be 279 cc or less but i can't find one anywhere. but i have a honda silverwing and love it but its to large to make that run. and i like the burgman 650 and the 400. so i started looking at one of these to see if maybe i want one to try and make that run on and what the reviews are so thanks for posting this. this is just the 2nd of alot of videos i will be watching before i make up my mind.
It will definitely outrun the little Honda 125 and also carry a lot more on board however fuel economy wouldn’t be quite as good. I would also love to do the scooter cannon ball someday, especially after watching quasimotard’s videos about it 👍
@@DirtRider22a hey we watch the same videos it seems. i love my silverwing BUT its to many cc's
Well good luck on the hunt for something smaller, I would definitely recommend the little Burgman, great machine for me so far
Burgman 200 is about 35 km/liter = 83 miles/gallon.
Pretty close to that depending on what speeds your running. Mine varies from 70mpg up to around 88mpg
What would you say is a comfortable cruising speed. I mean comfortable for the engine not the rider.
It really likes 65 IMO and that’s about the speed that it gets best fuel economy on flat ground as well (60-65)
But for what it’s worth, I’m comfortable running it right up against wide open throttle without much worry about the engine, there is little to no vibration at almost full throttle (80ish mph) and the engine is very over-square in design so it doesn’t mind the high rpm
You have to try it by yourself while keeping the rpm on tachy low.
How much do you weigh? How tall are you? I’m 5’11”, 185 pounds. Is this 200 enough for me to go 40-50 mph in suburb traffic?
I’m 5’8” and 170 pounds, it does 75+ indicated pretty easily
@@DirtRider22a Thanks. I want to get from home to work easily and cheaply. No desire to be Evel Knievel.
Honda PCX would be another great option with a little more mpg and a smaller purchase price
@@DirtRider22a Thanks.
Blue core engine of Yamaha Nmax 155 is much more fuel efficient.
50~70 km/liter = 118~165 miles/gallon
Play it safe " Extra undisclosed amount of weight on the back" 🤣Sounds like something I might say !
Gotta always be playing defense with the girls, can’t give them ammo against you lol
@@DirtRider22a Yeah they have the memory capacity of elephants. My wife brings up things at times I did 24 years ago and I cant remember what I even ate for breakfast.
Looks like it needs mirrior extenders
Nah, mirrors were perfect for me atleast. Camera angle might have been deceiving
Heh...I married an 'undisclosed amount of weight.'
Price???
I paid 2800$
US$4,999 for brand new one.
It looks old tech. but definitely solid trouble free because of no electronic fuss.
I have Yamaha and Suzuki the only bad thing about Suzuki they burn oil even new not a lot the Suzuki cars burn oil too
I never noticed any oil loss on mine, it is something I checked given I used mine on the highway mostly
No Oil Use on my C50 T *05 cc M. Cycle ( Twin Cyl. H20 Cooled , EFI , Shaft Drive ) ! !
I have a dr650 and I love that thing but my knee arthritis makes it very uncomfortable to ride. This scooter looks pretty comfortable.
I also have a dr650 and yes, the Burgman is noticeably more comfortable, atleast for me at my size
@@DirtRider22a how tall are you
@@blueman9450 5’7”
hey, I just bought a Suzuki burgman 200. How do I check the tire pressure on the scooter?
You need to get a pencil style air gage due to the wheels being such small diameter, other than that it’s just like checking any other vehicle. If you pop the seat there should be a sticker with recommended tire pressures
With a off Set Deg. Tire Gauge .