Fanatec ClubSport Wheel Base V2 Review on PC and PS4
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- www.ISRTV.com presents our review of the Fanatec ClubSport Base V2 on the PC and PS4. It's been a few years since we reviewed the V1 base and now it's time to see if the V2, along with the new Xbox One Universal Hub, produces a better all around experience.
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Thank you for the comprehensive and interesting review.
I am planning to purchase a wheel, 3 pedal set, shifter, and handbrake (if available) for the release of Forza Horizon 3.
I will be using it on Xbox One but I also have a PS4 and will be building a moderately high-end gaming pc in the near future at which point I will definitely be looking into the sim racers available on there.
I want to buy the best quality setup that I can afford to use on all 3 (Xbox One/PS4/PC) that will be durable enough to last.
In your opinion would a full Fanatec setup be worth it? (~$1600 without tax)
If not what would you suggest as the next best thing?
If so what would be the best "cockpit" for it? Fanatec's cockpit seems overpriced for what it is but I also can't find anything that jumps out at me as a better option so far.
Thank you in advance for any and all help and responses.
I've been into both cars and video games for a very long time and I am just now really trying to get into sim racing so I want to make sure I do my research before I waste money (in this case a whole lot of it) on the wrong setup and cockpit.
can you put a giant pirate ship steering wheel on it?
+jdmikeg4 yes, yes you can XD ARRGGHHHhhh
lol good one :)
Hahaha
thanks for the review. I was thinking to sell my t300rs plus g27 plus t3pa to buy the v2 plus a wheel. But I was afraid the non support in Greece. So I just bought the new Thrustmaster 599xx evo wheel. I hope it feels OK I haven't open it yet. compared with fanatec bmw wheel how does it feel ?
Inside Sim Racing will you be doing a review of the new CSL base when it's released?
Great review guys! I personally have no issues with the quick release.
Interesting about the pedals because I could have sworn you reviewed the CSL elite pedals and said they were 10-12 bit on the Xbox One...?
What does it mean when they say "Pedals have low resolution when connected to the base"?
Hi guys, Wondering if you can help. Looking at purchasing a Fanatec csw v2 as a upgrade to my current thrustmaster tx set up. A few questions i cant find answers for i was wondering if you knew. I have a gt omega pro rig, do you know if this supports to have both pedals (cs v3) and steering base hard mounted? Also another question do you know if you can get an adapter to use the TH8A shifter on the fanatec base or will i need to change my shifter aswell?
does the Logitech adaptor come with the clubsport2 wheelbase or is it something you have to buy seperately ?
Will fanatec ever add the ACL feature for the Xbox one universal hub?
Darrin, too bad this was done before the seminar. I would have like to see your opinion using my settings.
Oh, and a slight dab of marine grease makes the QR a breeze to get on and off.
Hi
have you test the wheel's FFB longevity? Some other wheels (Thrustmasters ) over heat and turn the FFB down. after and 45 min of racing. If we all race we know races are about 2 hours in length, not counting practice and qualifying.
Thanks!
+victoraochoa I do mainly longer sprint races (45 to 90 mins) and endurance events (4 to 24 hours) and my V2 never fades. I run very aggressive FFB settings as well (ff-100, force-130). I've had mine for about a year now, and it has not skipped a beat. My V1 was a fade machine, but the V2 has been dead on in this category.
Awesome Video!
I've had mind for 11 months now, And, I Love it! I run on several Sim's like, iRacing, Assetto Corsa, GSC-e, R3E, rFactor1, It JUST Works Great on all these titles that I have and I know it works on the other one's I don't have per friends of mine that have them and this wheel. I have the Formula 1 wheel and the 0ld hub with a wheel I like mounted to it. I wouldn't trade my V2 wheel for nothing else. Thanks for the Good review of this and the New Hub too. = )
Hi, so this supports ps4? I got it but... will it work with like the 918 steering wheel ? Or I need the hub? And on GT Sport?
Hi guy's i got a quick question. Can i use the V3 Fanatec pedals on the T300rs for PS4.? Thanks.
so what hub woud i get if i wanted to play on the xbox one, ps4, and pc?
hello I have a flashing blue light on the v2 base what can I do to get it in xbox one mode
hey guys what settings how you guys been on the wheel?
Nice to see a Fanatec review on ISR. I have the Formula Rim and BMW Rim with my CSW V2 so the QR system makes sense, but for the universal hub, yeah it makes no sense. If anything should be "quick release" it should be the rims themselves.
I should also note, I have had my CSW V2 base for over a year now without a single mechanical issue. A quick look at ISR, GTPlanet, the iRacing forums, etc will show that, while not G27 class, the V2 base is fare more reliable than the V1. When you are spending this kind of money one would hope this is the case.
It would be great if you guys could do a settings and calibration video (like days of old) for this wheel on the various PC sims (AC, rf2, iRacing, GSC, DiRT Rally, etc).
I own the Xbox hub, and I do really like it. I use it for both the PS4, and Xbox One. The only problem that I have with it, is with one of the button pods, that houses the X button. The button itself for X is built a little weird. With the X button cap on. I can't depress it far enough to have it register. If I swap caps, like the Y button cap. It doesn't go far enough down to register. I just leave it off, and it works fine.
Xbox has a forum for feature request.. Is it possible for consoles like the XB1 to receive an update for higher bits of resolution for wheels and peddles.. Or is that a dev thing? Or are you not sure? Cause I would like to create a pole on the feature request Forum, and maybe your channel and brand can help support the request??
when is is it coming to the US?
Do you have to connect this to a pc and do an update because my pc is broken
Can anyone let me know if I can use this CS wheel V2 and the Porsche 918 with the PS3
Hi Guys,
You mentioned the benefits of using a PC platform w/ a wheel like this. Where would I go to get advice on currently available PC rigs that you might recommend for a Platform user wanting to go PC?
Did you ever figure it out?
should I Upgrade from my g27 ??? is it worth the money ?
So the Fanatec CSW Base V2 is compatible with PS4? In the official site of Fanatic it isn't PS4 but only pc and xbox one... Can I buy for my PS4?
The QR is great if you have two uni-hubs. I run the prototype and L79 mainly, but do occasionally switch to the GT1/3 cars. It's nice to be able to switch between the two so quickly. With the open wheel and prototypes I like a smaller (270mm) rim, while on the GT cars I like the larger (300mm) rim. Not to mention, when I'm done I can put the cover back on the wheel without having to unscrew anything. That's just a minor convenience.
If I was a console guy, I'd probably feel different about having two uni-hubs considering the price. Besides, you can start off with one and add another later on. It doesn't sting so much that way.
im on the console and want to buy a Fanatec v2 well base how where use able to use the v2 with the ps4 pro and xbox one x Fanatec side says it does work on ps4
For a high end base I think the hub and quick release both provide options their customers desire. The ability to mount an actual automotive rim is pretty cool. Swapping back and forth to an f1 style makes sense, I hope they develop one with xb1 support, or maybe even a proper PS4 rim. I doubt many people would bother swapping rims on the hub frequently...
Am i right that for ps4 is not only csl ps4 base, but also 2.5 base is ok for ps4 use? Thanks Jan
For PS4 you either have to use the CSL Elite PS4 or the Podium Racing Wheel for PS4, the CSW V2.5 is not compatible with the PS4. But you can use the DriveHub for example to make it compatible.
do you think that hard mount is the only way? for example does t300rs feels better when it's hard mounted?
in my opinion hard mounted or not it all depends by how stable is the desk or the cockpit. I use t300rs on a desk with clamp and my g27 hard mounted on a metal plate on a sim custom made and it moves a lot. what do u think?
+Mpamphs Kangourosaurous Hard mounting it always the way to go .
I see thanks
How does the force feedback compare to the T300/TX, both in strength and in smoothness?
+CaseFaceMcGee Considerably stonger, not much different in smoothness. It translates subtle forces a little better as well.
Hi guys i wanted to ask on a scale 1-10 how much better is the CSW v2 compared to the t300rs? i have watched the ps4 comparison review but still unsure:s
+Drew chowdhury for me, having owned both, the FFB differnce (when tuned properly) is about a 6. Aesthetically about a 25.
awesome gloves One Goal One Vision
I just started but the Alpine star kart shoes are awesome too . Just starting out but Help me make some fastest Iracing Advanced legends laps in Canada
Fanatec has a Black Friday through cyber Monday deal for the new cheaper CSL rim plus base for $650. I already had v1 pedals so I'm upgrading my tx wheel!
Keep an eye on your button caps. A few of mine cracked. I emailed fanatec and they replaced them for free.
Have you tested the pedalresolution plugged into the base with the CSP V3? And with which programm? DIView?
THX
+Robert Manz We tried them but didn;t test resolution. We have been now corrected and told that with the V3s plugged in, you get 10 bit. All other pedals will be 8 bit
Ok, thx
+Inside Sim Racing Fanatec chat rep just told me it should be similar to via USB, namely 12-bits with CSP v3.
+HardwareAddiction unfortunately thats a wrong Info. Thomas Jackermeier himself said that its only 10 Bits on the Base. maybe thats why the said "it should have" :-D
+Robert Manz then, I have no idea why Johannes told me it should be the same. A little disappointing that I can't get a straight answer from these guys. I figure 10-bits shouldn't feel far off from 12-bits, so somewhat comforting.
One of the things that is really hard to understand about the Fanatec wheels is how features like the "7-way encoder" work in game. For folks who have only ever owned less expensive options that only have buttons and D-pads, it'd be great to see some short-format, very focused clips that zero in on specific features of some of this gear.
Awesome job on your channel guys keep it up !! I have a question regarding this review, it might be a long shot with all the stuff you working on right now but maybe you can answer this. I recently got my csw v2 with the v3 pedals F1 rim and shifter for my PC. But I can't figure out how to setup my wheel and pedals on F1 2015. Have massive deadzone almost no force feedback and suddendly bites mid corners. It might be a codemasters issue cuz every other titles that I own (Project cars, Assetto corsa, Dirt Rally) works perfectly fine. You guys say that base makes F1 2015 come alive and I would like to experience that, so if you have any suggestions it would nice of you can help out. thanks
Is there A wheel or hub that have the lever for to use the blinkers?
0108daniel maybe a fairly unknown brand but the popular wheel companies don't make any
can someone tell me how bits affect the pedals and why plugging into the computer is better?
+Spartan168
I think nobody was ever able to proof that this resolution really makes any difference in terms of realism or feeling. But theoretically that might be possible.
pretty great review guys! the V2 had been around long enough for the public to get one finally, but it took you a while I'd say, lol. Judging by the thoughtful comments and observations though, it sounds like you put the wheel through its paces for a while so that's great. That's important considering the possibility of defects on ffb wheels. I wish they'd come up with a more cost effective solution though. it just seems pretty pricey considering the competition its up against these days. its a niche market regardless, so I'm still glad its an option for sim racers even if it's a bit much for my wallet these days. careful to anyone reading this...wheel rims for the csw are like a gateway drug lol.
I just noticed that the fanatec website is no longer advertising this as ps4 compatible. I was planning on upgrading from my t500 is this really the case?
A Fanatec only for PS4? What a shame..
Yeah, I just got into sim racing more seriously and I'm on ps4 eventually I'll make the leap onto PC.
where can i get one?
On Project CARS, you should try turning world movement to 100 and g-force effect to 0. Then the wheel in your hands will stay lined up with the car's cockpit on screen. Made a huge difference for me :)
Great unbiased review, my CSW V2/V3 set has been awsome, but the best part is the universal hub. For now I am PS4 PCars only, PC soon, but with the button boxes ( by the way you can get an extra box from Fanatec that works with PCars on PS4) and funky switch I have 22 buttons that can be assigned in game.
I agree that PCars on the console does lack some of the features found on PC, but not so much that it's not a great experience. For thoes who have never experienced a true SIM racing title, PCars on console is a great entry and learning tool so we shouldn't discredit them so quickly.
Really, I have never tried out the Forza series. The game play videos looks good, but I've never own an XBox, only PS. Does For a have the same level of vehicle tuning in PCars? The feature I like the most is tinkering with the set ups to get better times, fuel consumption and tire wear.
599$ vs 749€? I wanna live in US.
I wouldn't really consider the T500RS/T300RS/TX to be "low end". I'd consider them closer to mid range, while the CSW here would be high end, with the better products being enthusiast level.
A better way to classify things would be Entry Level, Mid Range, High End, Enthusiast Grade (lowest to highest in that order).
recommendation for ps4? but will only get it when GT7 comes out
+hassan3o7 watch our soon to be released PS4 buyers guide
I actually like their quick release system. I did a racing experience and the cars quick release wheel I had to fight off as well. no ideas if that's normal but hey lol....
but they should fix that USB pedal thing, sounds like an oversight in the USB control board, which isn't an expensive fix when developing.
hopefully one day I can try one of these beasts for now my tx will have to do.
Owning both a Formula Rim and and a BMW Rim i am very happy it has a quick release function! 7:50 mark of the video....
+Nick Pausch ditto
Would you say that the Fanatec wheel is worth all the money? I'm looking at buying one but I'm not sure yet.
its an investment in quality gear that will last you a long time i have never had an issue with my fanatec setup.
Thanks for the feedback man. Will defiantly look into purchasing one soon.
Would you recommend the THrustmaster t300 instead?
lexustheimpaler great wheel, get it without a doubt
To be fair, that was a good review.
When using the CSP v3 connected to the CSW v2 Base the pedals have a 12bit resolution so that's not really a con at least when you are also using CSP v3 ;-)
where did they get that European price from.
You guys really need to try out some very high end stuff.
How to connect on ps4????
2:52 Woah I asked Fanatec months ago if I could use Logitech pedals with their wheels and they said no. Maybe because They don't offer something to make it work or don't want us to use someone elses pedals with their wheel. Can someone confirm I heard this right..
Loving the beards!
Don't agree with what you guys say about the quick release. It's one of the best parts about this. Within 10 seconds I can change between my 320 mm Porsche 918 RSR rim to my 275 mm Formula rim and soon to my 300 mm CSL P1 rim.
The adapter hub is the problem. You gotta do a crapload of work like you guys showed in this vid or you can buy a hub for every rim and you'll be all good for quick rim changes.
I would, but it's near enough $1000 AUD for me, just for the base. So, would the full CSR set (wheel, pedals, shifter set), which is a much more doable $500 for me. Would that do well enough for an upgrade from the DFGT? I'm just looking for a wheel that has considerably stronger FFB, and the whole set in terms of functionality, i.e H-Pattern and sequential shifter, 3 pedal set, and preferably PS4 compatibility.
I just purchased the csw v2, csl p1 rim and clubsport v3 pedals and there great
But for you look on gumtree or eBay for a csr elite wheel
+MrTacticalSloth CSR Elite is nowhere online. How does the FFB on the standard CSR compare? Also, would the extra money you have to fork out for the Clubsport Shifter SQ be worth it over the CSR Shifter set?
+SMauler9 dont buy CSR after time its getting rlly used i had problems with csr elite pedals and the shifter mounted on the wheel the censor fucked up. Dude buy a thrustmaster TX/T500/T300 with t3pa pedals much more worth than fanatec. I sold them yesterday wednesday my thrustmaster come friend of mine had too fanatec and switched to thrustmaster
I would if it wasn't so damn expensive for me. T300 with T3PA and TH8A is about $900. Not easy for me to get this sort of money.
+SMauler9 no i ordered it for 550 the tx is now in a package with the t3pa pedals and TM28 leather rim for 420 and the shifter 130 you are 550
no shit it has to be a tight fit with the quick release to eliminate slop
is there a way to install a wheel on there with out all the buttons just run the steering wheel
The Universal Hub comes with four 3-button pods and one rotary encoder. When you assemble it, you can use all of them, or none of them. It's very modular.
+john ulmer oh ok thanks man
Not to belittle (no pun intended) the left guy John i think it is. But if i see you and Darin driving i notice that you are a lot lower. It almost looks like its not comfortable. Isn't there a way to get a height adjusted seat or something on there?
+Maikel K yea, the rig is more set up for Darin but we just got a second Next Level that we're going to set up more for John's height.
i have a t300, is this worth the upgrade? all i run is iracing
No Go above if you want an upgrade
+Backofthefield The best upgrade would be T3pa pro pedals and a th8a shifter to your current wheel. It's overall a better bargain. However, it's your choice. Fanatec and Thrustmaster are top of the line
Honest answer is the Fanatec just isn't worth the money. If you want something better than the t300 go for the acuforce Pro
+ClassicFuel I'd counter this with a Bodnar or OSW over the Accuforce Pro. At this point you're getting into far more $$$.
+Joshua B Okay yeah see I know about 0% on that end of the market haha
Look... the quick release is just to look cool.
CAN WE USE G27 PEDALS WITH THE ADAPTER ? WITH CSW BASE ?
+brodeur212 yes.. we did for this video
+brodeur212 They literally answer this question at 2:50 in the video with a giant zoom shot of the adapter.
Fanatec's website should point out the base only has 8-bit support for pedals. EDIT: read my reply below.
Thats the v2 pedals connected to the base. The v3 pedals connected to the v2 base has 10 or 12bit.
Bryan Benson Benson Yea. Turns out this review created an unnecessary confusion. I was just told by Fanatec chat rep that it should work 12-bits just like it'd via USB. Connecting it via USB creates an annoying cable clutter.
EDIT: Now it's claimed to be 10-bits.
Good review - though it more noticeable than usual that you were each reading a script rather than fluently talking about your thoughts - something to work on :)
It's definitely quick release, just slow attach :-)
I never found a need for a quick release in sim racing. LMFAO. Mr. Gangi still makes me laugh until my blood boils. >.
i dont think you guys did understand, what that for is the universal hub. i mean if the options what fanatec offers you is not enough out of rims or you want to play with a special kind of rim then you buy the universal hub. and if you want to use more then one rims from other companies then you should buy 2 universal hubs. i hope you guys understand what i want to say.
if you use more than one rims then the quick release is very cool. i have a formula carbon, the bmw gt2 and a universal hub for my type-r rim. and yeah, if i want to get and use a lambo rim then i buy the lambo rim and another universal hub.
Love the v.2 base but the fans are to loud
So, this is a direct drive wheel?
It is not. SimXperience AccuForce, Leo Bodnar and OSW are the current dd wheels. Fanatec is coming out with one, probably later this year. - John
Which I could be part of this team.
you guys are doing a great job for us all. it really helped me a lot deciting which x1 wheel i should buy. i ended up with the tx leatherrim edition. Fanatec looks great, but for me it's not worth the extra money, because tx is doing a great job om xbox one and i can't see that fanatecs quality can possibly increase equal to the price difference. (hope it makes sense). but still keep up the good work !!!!
it would be useless for us on ps4 as it doesn't even work with Driveclub right?
+David McNair correct
+Inside Sim Racing cheers Darin if that's you. Enjoyed the video anyway as always. Still loving my t300rs with the Ferrari 599x wheel 👍
+David McNair
I think that driveclub is the ONLY PS4 title (which supports FFB wheels in general) which is NOT supported right now.
Guys Fanatec just released a new Xbox rim add on with a new mid level base in the works
www.fanatec.com/eu-en/steering-wheels/csl-steering-wheel-p1-for-xbox-one-eu.html
Great review btw I knew you would love it especially John 😉
Cheers
500 more till 100K
US$600 , holy bloody moly NOT CHEAP
+charlie brownau Yea and 750 Euros ridiculous!!
Knowing our luck its like 900 AUD ,pass , not worth it
the input lag you guys have. its so bad it hurts. that thing is more important than wheel, or game. are you using a tv or something to get this kind of huge delay between wheel input and game?
+Efe Ozata That may have been the PS4 version
wow the dollar to euro conversion is kinda sickening
After spending $1,000 for the base and the 918 wheel im deffinetly going to order the Accuforce setup. esp since this badass new base has already broken down after claiming to be more reliable. Maybe I got the unicorn one with a few bad parts. Either way I no longer feel the same about Fanatec.
+SimRacin Jordan Why spending that much money? Get a 300rs with the Ferrari Fxx Evo rim, connect it to some Clubsport Pedals and have fun, my Fanatec wheel broke a year ago and they told me it was unrepairable. The T300 has great FFB, isn't expensive (+ the Ferrari Rim is absolutely awesome /light + great quality) and with my CS V2 Pedals it's absolutely reliable, i even did a few very long races, which i never could with the Fanatec wheel ( overheating issues)... if you wanna spend that much money consider getting a cheap racecar ^^.
We shall see what the new year brings. got a new set of HPP pedals (3-PRX) im anxiously waiting to use. Ive done the whole track in a real car thing.... its far more expensive than just the price of the car (been there done that), which is why i bought stuff to race on from home.
Just wanted to offer a counter viewpoint on the quick release.
I like it, but not because it's quick. Think of it as a tool-less wheel attachment, rather than a quick release, and it starts to make more sense. It looks high-quality, and I think a tool-less wheel swap mechanism makes a lot of sense on a product at this price point. Just imagine if Fanatec didn't use the quick release; what would they use instead? Thrustmaster's system works, but it's chunky and plastic. Again, it goes back to price point. I would be deeply disappointed to see a system like that on Fanatec's CSB product.
The other thing to consider is that you're spending $600 on just a base. The total system cost for most Fanatic setups starts at around $1,200, and that's before you get in to the cost of the rig! When you're investing a $1,500 or more in to a sim setup, is it really all that crazy to invest in multiple button hubs (even at $250-$300) over the lifetime of ownership? Also consider that many people will mount a real racing wheel that costs just as much. If you're serious enough to invest in a Fanatec setup the quick release seems like a necessity from a long term investment perspective.
The only thing that doesn't make much sense to me is the anticipated elimination of the non-XBox version of the hub. If Fanatec were smart, they'd create a "light" version of the hub that retails for $150 (or less!). Reduce the number of buttons, drop the FunkySwitch, and eliminate the customizable LED panel. Do I really need all those things on my wheel when I'm racing stock cars or road cars? When is the last time you could control anything more than your stereo from the steering wheel of your car (assuming you're not in a Ferrari or McLaren). Even in hyper cars, you need three or four buttons max. A low-cost button hub option would increase the overall value of the product, because you could add wheels to your collection over time.
Would rather hear John's comments than Darren's
John looks like he's uncomfortable at times
Really cool, but that price! Ugh. 750 Euro for the base??? I guess I'll keep using my Thrustmaster T500RS which I paid 350 Euro for and that was including the pedals and steering wheel.
+Frank V The price is one time. Will you really remember what you paid for it in six months? You WILL know the difference in the two wheels though.
600 usd
750 euro a wheel from germany.
still i can't understand this economic policy..!!
i live in europe and make me feel victim
+them mpele Sales tax.
+them mpele Yep. VAT for Europe sucks. It's where the extra cost comes in.
Now they decreased the price to 550€ again because they will release a new Direct Drive wheel
+J. Martinni There is no sales tax in the EU.
them mpele same problrm
not your best review no comparison with accuforce you just talk too much about that damn quick release
Too expensive! I'm sticking with my Fanatec CSR and when I get a new wheel, it'll be a Thrustmaster T150.
More like a Wendy's 4 for $4 deal.
+Jeremiah P I think a T150 would be a step down my friend, at least the CSR has a full belt drive. IIRC ISRTV's review states that the T150 is partially gear, partially belt driven. I could be wrong but if this is the case the CSR is the better option for sure. At least go for a T300/TX, both of which have brushless motors and interchangeable rims at a price point below the higher end CSW V2.
+Seth Francis Sim Racing I have the t150 and it is indeed belt/gear driven. great beginners wheel but I'd imagine that this or the t3/500 would be much better.
These are some crazy prices. You can buy a go-kart for a few more and do some real life racing.
+ianiva We are talking about SIMULATION racing, NOT real life racing...
Psy Active That's why it needs to be on a budget. Simulation is a substitute. If with the same money you can race in real life it's much better.
Well in sim racing, u dont need to by a new tyres everytime u race right?
laos85 No but you don't need to do a full season if you don't want to. Actually, you don't even need to race which decreases costs dramatically. To be honest when I said real life racing I meant driving more than actually participating in races.
+ianiva What kind of kart are you getting for that money? Not a Rotax. Not a TAG, definitely not a shifter. Hell, a L0206 engine will cost you that much by itself. Then you have to get a chassis, tires, sprocket.....etc....etc....etc... What about track time? How much is that going to cost you? How often will you get on the track? Where are you getting your free fuel?
These are completely separate hobbies. You don't compare them. That's like saying "why would you buy a car, when for a little more you could have an airplane". These statements are cliche' and trite.
Why the 194$ higer price tag in EU?? Thats just f..... up.
+Morten Erichsen 19% tax that's why
+kizzagt Oh right, i see that now. Somehow the checkout added the tax twice, It's fine now.
NP I hate it but thankfully the GBP is doing well against the euro so that's a plus
$599.95. I was like OK so it could be like 600€ then... 749,95€ Whaaaaaaaat?!?! Who the hell converts those prices?!
Just realized also that US dollar has rise compared to euro. Still that difference is huge.
+6St6Jimmy6 www.isrtv.com/fanatec/fanatec-increasing-prices/
+6St6Jimmy6 Yeah exporting over the ocean is cheaper than selling at home, that's a fked up world.
+6St6Jimmy6 Euro prices include VAT. $599.95 doesn't include doesn't include local taxes for us. With local taxes which are 8.5% it bumps the price to $650
People call steering wheels rims wtf?
grow the beards out Darin (Y)
+Lachlan1662 lol, already shaved it
+Inside Sim Racing Pansy..
OMG quick release is just for the hub, if you want more wheels you would buy more hubs? wtf
its not quick mounting for wheels its quick release, so like you said you can change between wheels like the f1 wheel and bmw wheel, expensive yes, useful yes, want more wheels buy more hubs.
No. F1 and BMW has their QR hubs already. Go to the website
+samdavis1228 I know that, that's why I said you change between them, if you use a custom button box you can quickly replace the wheels as the hub has a usb pass thru and it would be easy to change between your custom wheels 6 screws how easy is that, since all the buttons are located on the top of the hub
to be fair i believe that was was the worst review you've ever done, but I'm entitled to my opinion, and thats all it is (",)
+Glen Orpheus Could you be specific why it was the worst ?
+Inside Sim Racing yes guys, i believe this too,you are always pro, but not in this one
+them mpele That really doesn't help us improve. What did we do wrong?
+Inside Sim Racing ok well to me you appear to have passion about your reviews especially thrust master products, your review of the CSW V2 almost looked like a chore. Sorry but that's how it came across.
then you pick up on the quick release not being worth it, and kept mentioning it, when we all know it's most useful on separate wheels like the f1 rim and the 912 rim which I own. Ok so some people may not know this, but it felt like you were focusing on that way to much.
I realise that you can only please some of the people some of the time, so just take it as a little bit of constructive criticism, no harm intended guys.
Love the shows and will continue to subscribe.
Peace out
+Glen Orpheus We're all for constructive criticism and appreciate your comment.
Not as good as your review of the original CSW
+Hymer300 Could you be specific as to why ?