Who Did it Better? - Super Saiyan 3 Transformation
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So do you think people chose the best option?
Funimation original is best. The manga can never hold up to actual animation with real performances, and the Japanese just doesn't work because Goku sounds like an old grandma with a high pitched voice. It sounds like English Fortuneteller Baba delivering a baby whenever the Japanese Goku yells. The definitive, unquestionable order is DBZ English > English Kai > Manga > Old Grandma Goku Japanese Version.
Ya know I didn't know that September 23 was the English released I was only surprised because September 23 is my birthday.
Not waiting for the team fourstar version lol
None at all
please do Majin Vegeta speech at the tournament next
AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND always helps me Hit new PRs in the Gym !
Me too
After u have it's mandatory to say I have ascended
PRs?
@@lay-lowandsmash1519 Personal records
@@Sutefan7 huh ok.
Thanks goku
The biggest reason of all of them?
"And this... Is to go... Even further beyond!"
Just one of the most bad ass iconic lines in the series
Chills every time.
Followed immediately by a good ol “EAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH”
You mean in history
Hero Vill yes I agree
That, along with the Bruce Faulconer SSJ 3 theme, elevate this above all others, even if the Kai dub is technically more accurate.
Manga: screams for 3 pages
Anime: screams for 3 minutes
hours*
@@alexhamiIton years*
@@user-do7yy9wf7s CENTURIES*
Kakarot: Screams for 5 seconds
@@listlessweeb3410 **MILLENIA*
The Bruce Faulconer version just hits me in a strong way, it makes me feel like through the score I get a sense of Goku's power in that moment.
You just cant beat "And this... This is to go even further beyond"
I literally say that all the time before I do anything, especially on Xbox cause it just works too well 😂
You also can’t beat Bruce falconer
And this is to go Beyond Plus Ultra!
Jose Ornelas oh my, oh my GOODNESS
Jacob Kratz good lord the lungs on that boy
Manga chapter: Released in June 1994
Anime episode: Released in November 1994
Oh, those poor animators
How long do you reckon they had to finish that transformation?
Hey man still more time than Super’s animators had amiright boys haha ifeelsobadforthem
@@ScapeVEVO Development time does make a difference in the end.
Back then, the animators had more time. Don't compare 1994 with today animators.
So theses "poo" animators were pretty fine.
@@felipe_drawmania1604 yes, it does
Sadly we're not getting the tfs version for this one
Big F
Still kinda Hope they someday announce that they Will make the buu saga, if they found the spark for it again
@@tobiaskofod5435 I do too, but they Seemed pretty definitive about it.
F
Why not?
Nothing, absolutely nothing beats the 2002 version. The score and dubbing was flawless. It's literally a scene that has inspired people to go even further beyond in their own lives!
I personally love the 3 minute transformation, showing the world affected by his mass of power, and the weird baby and monkey scene, and the dub of "And this is to go even further beyond!" I love and can recite his whole monologue.
Facts😭
As much as I have learned to appreciate the manga and the original Japanese audio more than the English dub, Sean Schemmel's scream is UNBEATABLE.
The ssj3 transformation is one of the few times that the 1st Funi dub actually felt like it lent more emotion and gravitas to the anime than anything the original japanese or subsequent dubs did - the "and this is to go even further beyond!" line, the labored and painful scream, the music. I know there are a lot of purists out there, but it's important to recognize when localization gets it right, and 1st-round Funi absolutely blew it out of the water for this scene.
I will never forget "AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!" The most iconic line in the franchise for me.
Love the Totally not Mark 90s logo. That gave me heavy nostalgia
Do you mean cartoon network?
Right!
Honestly, ssj3 is probably the single handedly only anime moment I can think of that actually justifies how "unnecessarily " long it is. That form deserves every second of secondary characters reactions, screaming, world reaction and tension scene. Best transformation in any anime ever. Prove me wrong.
Tenchi Masaki turning into Kami Tenchi from Tenchi Muyo is easily much more anticipated and long time coming and on a far, far larger scale than the SSJ3 transformation but it's arguably less impactful, but it's probably the only other scene that I can even compare it to.
The only other one I would say is The Final Flash, it’s like seven minutes of just screaming but when he finally fires the beam it’s more than justified.
SSJ1 was better, a unreachable legend we all thought was no more then mad ramblings from Vegeta, then Frieza kills Krillin pushing Goku over the edge and it happened, the legend was actually real.
And SSJ2 worked really good as the culmination of all of Gohan's hidden rage. We see Gohan's hidden strength all though Z, then a glimpse of SSJ2 while Gohan and Goku was training, it was built up perfectly and when Gohan got backed into a corner he couldn't escape from, he finally snapped and it was glorious.
You can't beat build up and anticipation, something SSJ3 doesn't have. What is SSJ3? How did Goku get SSJ3? Where did SSJ3 come from? Does SSJ3 matter in the story at all? Answers. Don't know, don't know, don't know and no. We're into Dragonball Super now and we still don't know jack shit all about SSJ3, it's just a form only Goku has because... reasons. That he obtained while dead... in some way. There is no backstory to it, no build to it, it's been utterly useless in all the main series, and GT was quick to replace it with SSJ4 while Super was quick to replace it with SSJ God.
I see no reason to care about a form we know next to nothing about, and is just there for the sake of being there and nothing else.
@@justinlynch3 wow, this comment was far larger than it had the right to be . You really could've done it a lot better. Not even that good of an argument, damn.
Right
Funimation nailed this scene. Can't beat that scream that won't quit and Faulconer's score for the shot. Everything just works for that moment.
You just wait until TFS release their version 😁
Edit: Yeah... this comment did not age well at all... 😭
Edit edit: IT AGED BEAUTIFULLY 😍
If it releases in our lifetime
Bet it's gonna be a AHHHHH*pop*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*Squeaks*
They're gonna make it as retarded as they made goku
@@yungrottz112 Hmm, they have been really good about all the transformations so far, would be odd if they skimped out on the ss3 one.
So... Did your choice change? :)
...but....but.....but
I hope they call it a “Super Dee Duper Saiyan”!
Totally Not Mark you're god damn right
There is no TFS version
Well actually...
Mad respect for the voice actors who actually pulled off that scream
DanielTT Ikr, you’ve got to have some serious lungs to pull this off
Didnt he pass out?
@@vegmasit9922 that was only ssj4
@@gotlitwasted748 Yeah I knew he passes out once but I guess it wasn't this
I wonder how many takes it took to get it right :D
I gotta give it to Sean, he did an AMAZING job with it, also loved the audio for it!
the kai dub just doesn't sound as nice...
You commented the same thing twice
I typically love Kai more, but the original 2002 dub really is something else. Just the line "And this is to go even further beyond" makes that scene so cool.
The screams in tfs 's Buu arc are so loud , I can't even hear them
Wait for it...
@@photontheblueflash7658 for the woosh?
@@sharakujr.khalil9043 Yep.
@@LyricalStarr NANI!
@@LyricalStarr FOUND HIM! SIC EM!
for me, Sean Schemmel's Super Saiyan 3 roaring yell was perfect the first time around, the Falconer score fitted brilliantly too.
Is one thing to dub a show to allow people from other countries to understand it, but changing its original dialogue and score is plain disgusting and it actually should be illegal if you think about it. Imagine doing that with an american show in another country.
@@matriaxpunk OH WAIT THEY DO
@@kyros2714 and you think it's cool? I believe art should be respected, no matter the medium.
@@kyros2714 of course, once it's done you can like whatever version you prefer. I'm just saying it shouldn't be done in the first place, and we souldn't encourage it.
@@matriaxpunk oh boo hoo you don't like something so no one should do it fuck off
I don't really think there is a question here. The FUNimation version of this scene is totally iconic and the line "And this is to go...Even further beyond!!!" Is just more impactful than the Kai's version of the script.
Kai got it right with the I AM speech but Super Saiyan 3 goes to Funimation
@Kid Synthesize ok but we're talking about the ssj3 transformation alone, not the entire series
I love Kai, IMO it's better than Z in almost every way. But "this is to go even further beyond" is way too iconic
Agreed
Same
Eh, visually and pace wise I think Kai is superior but I think I prefer the dialog from the original Z Dub. They changed some of my favorite lines (examples being SSJ3, Vegeta’s saiyan pride and speeches, and Gohans “I WONT WATCH THIS ANY MOOOOOOOOREEEE”
@@DemHP. yeah i never understood some of those iconic line changes. Everywhere else they made notable improvements. Its truly confusing.
@@DemHP. don't forget the music is no where near as good
Small nitpick: the Funimation SSJ3 theme was done by Julius Dobos of Faulconer Productions - not Bruce Faulconer himself. Bruce gets a LOT of credit which IMO, should go to the whole Faulconer Productions team.
I normally give it to Kai or JP, but earlier Funi rocked this scene. Iconic.
Earlier funi excelled the most at the really emotional and epic scenes.
Agreed
@@hyperrunner8531 I agree, there are quite a few memorable scenes that sounded rushed with the Kai redub.
Kai is trash
@@LegendaryNegroSamurai Go back and compare the old Funi dub (pre-Buu) to Kai. Kai comes ahead in quality/accuracy, no contest.
"This is to go even further beyond"~Goku. Instant goosebumps everytime.
Bruce falconers music and the iconic " This is to go even further beyond" line means for me the original funimation dub has the best version.
Can’t wait for me and my grandchildren to watch tfs buu saga
Can’t wait to watch it in the afterlife
Well they said they Will upload the saga this fall
You have to get married and have a few kids first...
They said that they have a schedule now,and that it won't be taking long hiatuses anymore,so we should be expecting part of Season 4 of dbza and the Bojack movie soon. Just checked. They're releasing on a weekly basis in the Fall.
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 as good that sounds monthly would be way better for the quality
Personally, I cannot look at this scene without Falkoner's SSJ3 theme, just fits the scene perfectly
Funi music suck man...
Agreed. After episode 67 the Japanese music disappears into the void.
Nah the japanese music is legendary
@Tcb bct just listen the the kukuchu score, all of it, it sounds absolutely insane, the dubbed score is so wank
@@frequentlyaskedtoile maybe, but Faulconer's score for ssj3 specifically is by far one of the best in the entire db franchise.
AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND...always helps me get through the rest of the day at work!
The Faulkner track just makes this scene so much more badass
Funimation, hands down. "And this is to go further and beyond!" Line is just so impactful. In kai, he just says, "this goes way beyond super saiyan 2." It's pretty lame in comparison to funimation dub.
It's both funi thoe
@@bluenitethewarrior9332 Mark differentiated between funimation and Kai. So that's what I was referring to.
Funimation had the best but I would rather watch any other version becuase fuck funimation now
@@negan4089 lol
Yeah most of the times i go for dbz kai but this time i gotta go for the og
"And this is to go even further beyond" + Faulkner score = GOAT
Even though I much prefer the sub version now a days, the ssj3 transformation from Funimation is the only one that feels right.
I have tears when i watch that
“And… Is to go… Even further beyond!” Has to the most iconic, most badass line I’ve heard in Dragon Box.
I think most agree that Funimation's dub wins this one. They usually excelled at the transformations and really emotional stuff. As a matter of fact, I'd hold Funi's original dub of the Buu saga against any other version. They had their stuff together by then.
I mean Sean Schemmel always knocks it out of the park
And knocks himself out in one of those
Not lately....
@@yourmanschad4686 he still kills it in super hater
I'm really looks forward to the final fight scene against jiren I wanna hear how badass Sean will sound in that
I mean so does the the original VA
The best version would be the one in which tom is screaming instead of goku from Tom and jerry😂
I know the video. And its great.
Cool, I haven't seen it yet...
link?
@@ItsOver9000Productions search it on youtube
Shab- re when I realised that was Tom I found it hilarious 😂
Edit: 0:12 he uses tom too
"Still my favorite Transformation in dragonball to this day, i just love the entire design of super sayian 3 it really feels diffrent to any other form, also it would be really cool if they could like bring back the super sayian 3 hair and face but in like another form someday as like a throwback to super sayian 3, that would of been so cool!!!"
**Buu rushing up to goku**
Boddiby : OIY AIY HOI OIY OIY!
Buu : **trips back**
goku : ... yo
Boddiby
He sells male fragrance products and revives ancient evils.
The Original Funi Dub because of SSJ3 theme of that version.
The one thing I liked about Kai is that instead of Goku continuously screaming, he sounds like he’s legit pushing every fiber of his being to transform
Absolutely no way anything beats the Funimation dub. The score paired with Sean’s brilliant emotional screaming make it one of the greatest scenes in all of DBZ
Original Funimation 2002 was so fucking good, and it’s the only thing in the Dub I enjoy more than the JP.
The Bruce Falconer song for the scene is just so much better.
Bruce Faulconer's score MADE that dub!
Ekim X wats JP?
Smine shorthand for Japanese
Ekim X ah ok thanks
Exactly, the ost made the scene. Absolutely iconic and epic
Did everyone forget Stereo Saiyan 3D? That's a true masterpiece.
No, we remember.
The non kai version was the best with the dub
Ding dong your opinion is wrong
@@leo-sj6un Your nuts
@@leo-sj6un an opinion cannot be wrong.... But why I say it is simply because the music fits FAAARRR better with the english voices. Just the japanese soundtracks don't work well with English voices.
@@tristancoward6935 I'm sorry but you can't beat: And THIS.... is to go..... EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!
@@leo-sj6un omg 😱 your wrong
MasakoX: And this is what it means to be super dee duper!!!
Also, I love Bruce's score! I'm absolutely nostalgic for it so the early Funimation dub will probably always win for me. 😊
For me the music in the funimation dub is untouchable
@@kefkapalazzo1 Yep. 😊
I see you are men (or women) of culture as well 🤙
kefkapalazzo1 That’s facts.
Hey here's DBZ Kai with the Faulconer score carefully edited in! It's awesome, check it out! thepiratebay.org/torrent/22649812/Dragon_Ball_Z__Kai_with_Faulconer_OST_(1080p)
Original funimation is my favorite by far
Still the same after the video.
Same
You can’t beat that theme man.
Same. The going even further beyond line is too iconic to forgive Kai for not using it.
Yup
I always loved the Kai dub but I would say if they put in the “to go even further beyond” dub followed by the Kai raw scream that would be brilliant!!
Sean was legit the best, only a mad man can scream like that for so long and so perfectly
AND THIS,
IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
*[ INSERT EXTREMELY LONG INTENSE SCREAMING HERE ]*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@Mr. Man There you go, just do that about 6 more times. Man I loved this scene so damn much.
Love how the funimation dub had 76% votes and got to 78% 😂
People always knew which was the best, some only forgot.
Its different enough to be debateable
11037 subs no videos? gambler if you wanna join a pointless/losing debate that is.
did you forget that some of the audience comes from other countries and has seen it in an entirely different language not covered here, thus never having heard of the funimation version?
Me eventually showing my Children this scene of Goku going Super Saiyan 3 as they watch all of Dragon Ball for the first time:
"You're going to love this. Trust me."
Fun fact: in Brazil the transformation of the 3 sayan (where tremors occur and some buildings are shaken) was interrupted by the duty informing about the fall of the twin towers.
Damn I didn’t even know about that
The original dub version still gives me goosebumps during that scene.
I feel like it's impossible to watch this all the way through without pausing and going to watch the full scenes mentioned as you go along
Nothing is gonna beat the first english dub with Sean screaming for literal minutes without end
Really cant watch BDZ with out Bruce’s theme music in it
For me it's the opposite, Bruce is an intruder to me
Me too man
Typo
BDZ ya Mean DBZ you spelled it wrong
Japanese music fits Dragonball but not dbz and I think faulconer music fits dbz
this is my faveourite scene in the whole entire Dragon ball saga....... i dont particularly care who does it i love em all
*AND THIS.. IS TO GO... EVEN FURTHER BEYOND*
Pepper127 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHAHHHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAASSAAASSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
💩
"includes paid promotion" literally never see that in videos, people put it down the bottom of the description, props to you mark.
“AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND !!!! Will always be the best
Bruce Faulconers English version will always have a place in my heart ❤
yeah, the theme for ssj3 by bruce is legendary
Fushion reborn did it better... oh wait that’s a movie
*Fusion
Oh wait it's also non-canon
True. It was 1000x better.
Fusion* there's no 'H' in that word.
@ザマス合がっ体たい Broly is canon
Definitely the edit with the Falconer theme. Most badass and nostalgic
My favorite is the one of the ones you didn’t include: Original Funi dub w/ Kukuchi score. The blu ray version is the one I watched first. Although, I’ll admit that this is the peak of the Faulconer score and one of the few times I like it.
Team Four Star did it better....oh wait.
One day.
It gonna be there in a decade or 2
I actually doubt Masako can reach that level with his voice. But hey, perhaps they make him transform in an instant without screaming as a parody. lol
Masakox has already done it.
@AFRO ANIME actually he has on his channel.
I swear im so happy with this videos, and now since the inclusion of the latin dub it makes me so much more happier
For me it's no contest. 2002 Funimation version is easily the best. The way he screams and the music that goes with it is so powerful.
I always felt like the super saiyan transformation was merely the progression of the saiyan toward drawing their oozaru form outward, but while still retaining their human form.
Kind of like they were embracing their "Inner beast" and tapping into it.
This is also why in DBGT the SSJ4 form had fur and a tail. It was them having fully tapped into the beastial aspect and fully utilizing it, without being stuck as an animal.
Can’t wait to see how TFS does this lmfaoo
He took so long to transform against Buu because he was buying time for Trunks. He can do it immediately if need be.
wrong, even when he did it for goten and trunks he still took time to gather energy
@@Olabruh he was showing off
Jiren Joestar was it written in and physically spoken by goku that he was doing it to show off? Because if you don’t have actual proof of him being able to easily transform at the first time and couple of times of it happening, then what you’re doing is head cannon. Using your own thoughts and true interpretation of the story despite being wrong.
Prior to him transforming he then talks to Buu and babadi and goes through all of his forms, he is BUYING TIME. he states he could've obliterated Buu had he gone all out too.
Jiren Joestar so if he can obliterate buu, why is he buying time? But why buy time if he can obliterate buu? Sounds more headcannon
Also I like how you narrate the manga with the transitions. I could honestly watch you paraphrase every single chapter lol.
Such a good narrateur, love earing you talk :)
My favorite is the one where someone switches Goku's voice with Rolph from Ed, Edd, and Eddy.
Ironic since rolfs VA voiced Goku in the ocean dub lol
The almighty 3-shoe beating!
@@MidnightKingL "Shaklakaaa!!!"
When did Majin Buu turn Super Saiyan 3? O.o
O.o you watch this channel?
When he absorbed Gotenks who was in the Super Saiyan 3 form.
That One Guy ayyy
"And this is to go even further beyond" just hits different its the kind of shit you'd say when trying to get a new max at the gym or finally take down that boss in a game you've been struggling with the funimation dub will always be my fave
I constantly play ssj3 theme during my weight lifting. And I actually break my limits by doing just a few more reps. Normally I would stop, but I pushed myself just a little more and getting more gains. I'm grateful for ssj3. Which is why it's super underrated in my opinion.
When your eyebrows straight up become pure muscle because you’re just that powerful.
Your thumbnail art is so amazing! 😭😭I want to save it for my background 💯🔥
I voted for the Funimation dub both times: so much nostalgia there.
@EMANUELsonic why do you think I'm in my 30s and still rewatching the series. It ain't for the story.
@EMANUELsonic I'll give you an argument. The Funi dub knocked the SSJ3 transformation out of the park. The Funi dub had it's issues, but when it came to transformations, they usually did them better than the rest.
Funimation dub killed it. Best line delivery by far. And the Faulconer music is super memorable.
I preffer the original japanese dub and music in every Dragon Ball series/film but the original funimation dub for this one is just the best, it gets you so pumped up!
I seriously forgot how amazing the Funamation version of the scene was. I picked the manga version first but totally changed it the Funamation second
That punching meme at the start of the video is from an Argentinian short called "Otakus"!
So interesting you used something from my country haha xD
Ppl who started the series with Dragon Ball Super:"SSJ3 had a prominent role?"
I really wish SSJ3 had finished off at least 1 enemy in the anime/manga
Dragon Ball logic:The more you scream the stronger you get.
Zeno must have screamed for years so all goku has to do is scream for decades
KrrishMehta /The Blazing Fire!!! In DBS they don’t really do anything, so maybe that’s why people like Roshi and Krillin are catching up. I’d say it’s a worth a try though lol. Saiyans have some pipes on them.
The Funimation dub for the original DBZ did it the best. Sean Schemmel knocked it out of the park with that performance. And this was one of the instances where the Bruce Faulconer score worked better than the original.
I disagree. I Never could stand faulconer
This guys source/B roll finds are so good
Always loved Sean’s “serious voice” when he went 3
I hate how they don’t use this form @ all anymore. Honestly one of my fav forms
Since I grew up with the Latin Spanish version of the dub, and having seen all the versions after, I believe I can actually throw my two cents here without any real nostalgia bias.
I truly believe that the Funimation dub is the best one. Sean's performance and the score just fit in so well, I constantly use this scene to show my friends that the English dub is superior, since in Spanish, the screams usually sound more like Opera singing, haha.
Plus, as a musician and audio engineer, I can really appreciate the song. Its use of very varied elements and just an exquisite mix, for the time, is something to really talk about. I believe it amps up the moment even more than the original Kikuchi piece.
Big hug, Mark :)
Come on Mario Castañeda for life.... This English dude have no expresión... And those crappy songs don't make justice to dbz like the original songs
@@edgarvivar87 thats not even valid as an opinion.
@@edgarvivar87 Tienes toda la razón
I also grew with the Latin Spanish version but I'm gonna admit that Sean Schemmel's performance in this scene is just great, of course I'm referring to the Funimation dub
Vegeta: What did you do!?
Goku (SsJ3): I shaved my eyebrows.
Vegeta: Why did you do that!?
Goku: I... Don't know.
Original English dub, "...And this is to go even further beyond"... Iconic.
I hope Ultimate Gohan is next.
Nothing will top Sean’s performance of ssj3 in the og 2002 funimation
It's just something about the phrasing of "And this... is to go even further beyond!" that just hits something deep inside me. Mix that with what is probably the single best track from the Bruce Faulconer score, and you have perfection.
Stereo Saiyan 3D, with that sweet soundtrack. Doesn't matter which voice or vocals, it's just the combo of the transformation with the song.
I'd say tfs' dbza, but they havent gotten there yet, so for now, I stick with what I said above.