How good is China's J-20 stealth fighter?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- China's Chengdu J-20 Mighty Dragon was the world's first stealth aircraft to enter service that was designed outside of the United States. Here's a quick rundown on what we know.
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It is superior to the Russian jet for the simple reason that it… you know… works.
Damn right. Just watched your second Rounder Table podcast and I was shocked to learn that the weapons bay is about as good as a WWII bomb bay XD
@@thelegitpilot135 It's superior to Russian jets by engines, avionics etc
The Bombay works, and is literally similar to the F-22's Bombay
also you realise that the J-20's purpose is to fire and dip, not dog fight in any situation. If it were to be like that then China would actually put effort to make it dog fight capable.
Also who really cares if a Bombay is similar to a WW2 Bombay. All it does is open up and fire missiles who's gonna be "picky" on that stuff
It's chinese bro, what are you talking about😂
Besides the radar and targeting system It's a copy of the russian su27 which the us and england have recovered from the war so it's pretty much useless
i think they have more than two operational as well
The Russian one actually fought in a war ... Other places on the other hand...
There's that old saying,
Never underestimate your opponent.
Yup that ol saying "made in China" is a thing of the past
The problem is the US has been grossly over estimating its near peer opponents since WW2 and it has cost trillions of dollars that could have been spent far more productively. The US grossly over estimated the Soviet Union during the Cold War. When the Soviet Union fell we found out the US military complex had been lying to us, all along and the Soviet Union was nothing but a paper tiger. Then they said Russia is a threat they have cleaned up the corruption and mismanagement and now they really are a threat. Low and behold the US military complex was lying again and Russia is even incapable of beating a nation with a third of the population, one eighth the GDP, and less than one tenth the military spending.
So no I don’t believe a word that is put out by either China or the US military industrial complex.
There is another old saying from that part of the world.
“Appear strong when you are weak”
@@otetechie we overestimate them: we dominate them with an easy victory and minimal casualties
we underestimate them: we may lose and will certainly take heavy casualties.
Which scenario sounds better?
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 the problem is it's not that simple. resources are limited so if you overestimate someone and spend resources on countering a strength that they don't actually have then you haven't been able to spend those resources on something else that you may have actually needed. In fact, trying to appear that you have capabilities or things that you don't, especially if you didn't have to spend a lot of money to get them, and getting your opponents to waste lots of money, materials, and Manpower on countering them is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
At the end of the day the only wise course is an _accurate_ assessment.
Nothing's stealthier than the Russian SU-57. - None have been seen in battle yet. 😂
so does F-22 and F-35. The only confirmed Air to air kill of F-22 is shooting chinese weather balloon lol
@@Fauzanarief-n7iDifference is they’ve been ACTUALLY tested against nearly every other ally plane. Esp during Red Flag events where they have a combined record of like 250-1 or something. There’s a reason so many country bought the F35
@@hollister2320 But still those are only exercise, not actual combat.
@@Fauzanarief-n7i the point is the US is the only country to actually showcase their stealth planes in exercises and combat. The only evidence we’ve seen from Russia/China are CGI, just like their “hypersonic” missiles💀
@@Fauzanarief-n7i f-22s and f-35s have flown over Syrian s-400s undetected that is about as close as you’re gonna get
The WS-15 engines have gone into production just recently I believe. J-20’s are being fitted with the new engines which have serrated exhaust nozzles for stealth.
Yea I also believe I can fly but that's not happening.
@@g1llifer Problem is you can't but they can
Don't put much credit into Chinese tech. Engines are the easy part. If they can't copy they can't do! US well into 6th Gen fighter tech thats production ready awaiting congressional approval. Facts. 🇺🇸
@Accountant The not real well..unless retired euro pilots are teaching them that is. 🇺🇸
@@Davido50 Nothing of worth to offer Chinese already have, WS-15 is already comparable to P&W's F135 😎🇨🇳
Everyone talks about radar cross section when discussing stealth. They NEVER talk about it's IR signature, which on this aircraft is massive!!!
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To be fair with BVR being a focus it's IR signature is probably irrelevant is it was in a combat situation depending on the opponent.
@@Blackreaper95 No so modern IRST systems are very good. The PIRATE system on the Typhoon is reported to have a range of 50 Miles.
So if they can see it they can kill it
it’s why the YF23 was a better choice then anything out
How about the fact this thing is a literal health hazard to be near?
The front canards were an interesting design choice. I wonder why they went with that as opposed to thrust vectoring for lower cross section?
The delta wing design plus the probably very heavy radar in the front makes me think weight distribution reasons (canards provide extra lift in the front).
Probably cus they can't make that
Because it was not a clean sheet design.
Chengdu company already designed a 4th gen fighter which looked like russian mig 1.44.
When the requirement for stealth plane was put forth by chinese government the company tried to make a stealthy version of their already designed fighter.
The f35'sh/f22'sh shape is the best to get good stealth and good manurability at the same time, that's also the reason why newer designs like turkey's tfx, korean boarme, and indian amca all look like f 22/f35.
While seeing the digital art of sixth gen fighters it seems they focus more on stealth and less on manurability, those sixth gen fighters will be more closer to b2 spirit bomber than actual fighter jets.
Because the engines are underpowered & it needs canards to maintain lift.
@@randombully3798 Damn near all the 6th Gen fighter concepts, in the public sphere, still look more like a tailless F-22/YF-23; rather than the A-12 Avenger II flying wing design.
The additional length of the upcoming next-Gen BVR missiles seems to make a Single-seat flying wing design impractical for internal carry. Although, Combat Aircraft Monthly did publish photos of what seemed to be 2 single-seat flying wing, fighter-sized, aircraft in formation, with “melted back” looking wing ends; about 8-10yrs ago.
J-20 also flies at a higher altitude (66,000 ft), than the F-35 (50,000 ft), has bigger fuel capacity, longer flight range, and its purpose is to hit the AWACS and refueling aircrafts in a first strike.
Exactly. I’m sick of people saying “well it can’t beat an f35!!!!”. Of course it can’t. First, it’s the first stealth fighter China has made and mass produced, and it’s already marginally better than the raptor. And it’s like comparing a maverick missiles to a sidewinders in air to air combat yeah the sidewinder wins but that’s cause the maverick isn’t air to air.
Don’t kid yourself. The Chinese have made huge leaps forward in all aspects of industry and military in only a few decades, thanks to Western consumer $$$. The Chinese don’t complain about taxes, they can’t. It costs a national fortune to build and maintain a military. In China you must serve in the military. Our military is drastically shorthanded.
I am Chinese and now I have passed the age of joining the military. When I was young, I went to serve in the military because there were too many people and I was not elected
You are right that China made huge advancement but wrong about Chinese having to serve. China doesn't have conscription unlike south Korea or Taiwan etc.
wait I had to serve in military? gosh I mustve missed a phone call
Hey look another China expert who never step foot in China nor speaks the language
Commercial radar systems track this thing
Designed to do one thing the best … ambush. High speed, long range, stealth from the front quadrant, large weapons bay, large missiles, large radar. And because they did not make it a “Jack of all trades, master of none”, it has the performance to be very successful
"Thousands of time's bigger than the F22 on radar " oops
Are you saying he’s wrong?
@@TH-camuser1aa nope it's just the Chinese said the same thing, but the opposite way round. But I suspect the F22 has the upper hand
That doesn't mean nonstealthy though. The F-35 is also far bigger (not gonna look up the exact amount or be confidently wrong, but I think it might be like 100x) than the F-22, which is the second stealthiest thing in the sky after the B-2.
@@sethb3090 my favorite is the F22 , I've been tracking the review's and found out so much info about it in the past years , to me it's an icon . If you like F35 that's good. I personally don't approve of that plane . F22 is for me yeah 💯👍
The simple fact is we don’t know just how good or stealthy it is, and won’t until the time comes to fight it.
All the specs for the J-20 come from the reputable source called "Trust me Bro"
The point isn't that chinese j20 Is super good but the fact that in less than 20/30 years they build an air force from nothing beating Russia in stealth and being able to produce j20 in decent Number
each year, China graduates more engineers.. Than America has in total
And yet they can’t seem to develop a US peer fighter.
@Grak70 lol, they don't need one..
They just need to make the fighters five times faster than their enemies.
In WWII , The Germans had the best tanks and fighters in the world.
The Tiger tank, the Germans made about 1350 chassis of Tigers.
The Americans made 55,000 Shermans.
The Americans made about 19,000 c9mbat aircraft..
The Germans never had a chance.
And neither will the Americans when we fight China.
@@fredmertz1791 bold to assume a fighter that has a kill ratio over 200:1 needs to be produced at the same rate as one with a thousand times the radar cross section. These J-20 heaps will get their shit kicked in.
@IndiAnFasod yeah it’s easy to catch up when you steal everything. And given the results, they haven’t even done a decent job of stealing.
Here we go. I was wondering where the Chinese trolls were hiding.
Those forward kinards are 2 great big radar reflectors and the first person to say myth does unspeakable things with farms animals.
kinards
If they're deviated from horizontal, yes. But the idea is these are missile delivery vehicles, not stealth infiltrators like the F-22 or F-35. In that regard, some compromises to stealth might be acceptable.
Really, the J-20 has more in common with the stealth upgrade to the F-15. They're both half-stealth missile boats.
Where does the myth come from that canards are bad for stealth? The Dassault Rafale has one of the best radar crosssections among 4th gen fighters and it has canards.
@@FoquroC31 ummm…. Ok … and leave those animals be
@@RovingRoninEDC Bruh you edited your comment after I left mine...
How about you actually respond to mine?
When that canopy was closing, it looked like PVC tubes
Knowing china it probably still had the home depot Tag on them
@@biancaortegaa hahaha 🤣
@@biancaortegaa Lmaooooo
@@biancaortegaaNa since China is a wanna be United States it would be toped emoh
Everyone laughs but literally every fighter has them. They’re either air conditioning pipework, or air ducts for the inflating seal around the canopy
Also, the J-20 only has forward facing stealth as well as the SU-57. Take a closer look for 90° angles lol
We'll still take them all out before they know what happened...
Basically, it's easily tracked. The F-35 can find it easily and will likely be shot down before it gets a chance to even engage an F-35. Sounds like a great job.
months ago,China use a warning jet to find the USA F35 in south China sea,then the J20 get close to F35,until 1km near,F35 then find there is a J20 near
@@yuluoxianjunYou don't scare.this guy. Let him live in the dream. Just tell him, China is collapsing soon. They love this.
it varies, there is no one set number. I believe the F-22 is .0001 or .0001
You posted the same number teice
@@loyalhoodini4944 Take away a zero lol. Oh well $hit happens
The Chinese are not releasing much information on the J-20’s abilities. Could you tell us where you got the radar cross section data from?
source : trust me bro
Chinese stealth = rivets exposed
Russian stealth = exposed phillips head screws holding the whole aircraft together
Well even F22 have Rivets exposed if you look closely at the nose cone section
@@lambo_centernario9064 Source Trust me bro
@@PavelAVasilevich source: videos of the su 57 from Russian sites
@@PavelAVasilevich Lol cope
There is a lot of missinformation in this comment section, so let me clear it up a bit.
1. India claimed to have easily tracked J-20s.
The J-20s were flying with luneburg lenses or something similiar to hide the true capabilites.
2. Canards are bad for stealth.
Not sure where this comes from but it seems to be a widespread belief.
Some YF-23 varients also had canards. And some of the stealthiest 4th gen fighters like the Dassault Rafale also use canards.
3. PVC pipes under the canopy.
I think they are used to blow the canopy off the cockpit in an ejection.
Whatever they are for, the F-22 also has them.
5. The J-20 is not stealthy and it's garbage.
Source: Trust me bro
Everything I've heard about this jet suggests its relative lack of stealthiness does not hurt its intended usage. Its goal is to fly in with its relatively stealthy front towards the enemy, release missiles, and then bug out at high speed before the enemy can scramble anything to intercept it. In that regard, it doesn't matter if you see it, because by the time you do, it has already launched missiles and is on its way out of the combat zone.
I do not know how much of that is true or even plausible, but it sounds reasonable to my untrained ear.
Sure the J-20 is primitive compared to F-22 and F-35. However, in combat it is combined arms, numbers, logistics, etc. Hopefully, there will be no war.
Yeah peace is the best weapon
@@IntelFormulaxlet me invade your country and see your response.
war or no war?
I pick our F35 for reasons too numerous to list ... and no, I am not biased: a superior machine in every way!
So essentiually "not great, better than the su57, but will proceed to be clapped by 35s if they ever kick off" is what I'm picking up.
it's so long because it's supersonic fuel tank which explains the longer range. if it was any good at being a fighter jet the Chinese would let us know what it's real capabilities are, and not hide behind a vail of secrecy.
China: Our engineers are huge Macross fans. They suggest we make it like the YF-30 chronos. They could never get the missile or gun pods working, though.
No, J20 reflection area is around 3.5sqm, it's equal or more than F18
The J20 strikes me as this generations MIG25. I have a feeling this will do little, but scare the US into working harder on leap frogging everyone with its gen 6th fighter program.
you mean mig-35
I imagine our intelligence satellites have determined exactly how stealthy the J-20 is, or isn't.
RCS is not a single number. It depends in all kinds of things.
@Last Name Retired so how can the numbers be compared to others without knowing the aspect or frequency?
Pretty useless.
@Last Name Retired so x or Ku?
Or do they just pick the smallest figure possible 😅
There is a radar scattering computer simulation done on Aircraft 101. Without RAM coatings, they compared all 3 F-35, J-20, and Su-57 low observable LO characteristics through their shapes/geometry alone. End results are "Even though, J-20 RCS is higher than F-35A RCS through the frequency range (approximately 3.5 times in X-band, 1.5 times in VHF band), it still has much better RCS characteristic when compared to Su-57."
Given their LO data, this could either mean it is more expensive to maintain J-20 much more Su-57 as they would need to apply more RAM coatings just to be on par in terms of stealth with the F-35. Or they would just apply less for economical reasons which translates to a less stealthy aircraft. So it is a possible scenario that India’s Su-30MKI radars were able to detect J-20 at long range. And very likely J-20 or Su-57 will be detected first than the F-35 in an aerial combat. Their is also J-20’s use of moving canards especially the all-moving vertical stabilizers while in-flight which can greatly impact its stealth properties.
@@johnsilver9338 very cool! Detection by surface RADAR can shape tactics as much as fire control frequencies.
Dodge once came up with a sports car called stealth.
My friend and I were stopped behind a jet black stealth at a freeway exit.
My friend said, "look at that stealth."
I replied, "where, I don't see it." 😅
The accurate RCS is 0.07 square meter, undetected by E2 Hawkeye during the encounter last year
Did one fly over Taiwan and the Taiwanese military didn’t even know 😂
I was shocked they got this far.
Its a good first attempt and I'm sure the Chinese have built it to surve their needs
Yes. They need it for propaganda. It wont do any good against an F35 in combat…
@Indi An Fasod 😂😂😂😂
@@skymaster4121 how would we know we haven’t seen any of these planes in combat with each other or any other nation that’s not a third world country
@IndiAnFasod DYAM!
I'm more interested in the j31 which is the direct ripoff of the f-35 .
It's as stealthy as a barn door
Creeeek
barn door pretty stealthy xd
source: trust me bro
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Lmao the PVC pipes when the cockpit was closing
F-22 also has them so...
Some "experts" have wildly differing WAGs....
We need to have some mock dogfights with the f35 and the j20. Call it diplomatic friendliness or whatever.
These planes don’t dogfight. They rely on beyond visual range sensors paired with advanced weapons.
@@Jimmy2toes4u “dogfight” is a much shorter way of saying that.
@@altarancho A BVR engagement is not a dogfight. Advanced friend or foe id technology means you never even merge before engagement.
@@scottjustscott3730 you sound like someone who doesn’t know what you’re talking about, but read 2 wikipedia articles so you think you do.
That's why we fly right along china's border . Thousands of miles from home.
I love amateur experts thinking they know about something that has no information. Stealth is not just coating and physical design.😴
It’s less of a fighter and more of a medium range interceptor designed to come in and attack from the flanks while the main force is focused on the middle.
You appear to be the only one here that understands this isn't a fighter.
It’s the canopy. It’s not gold lined like the US stealth aircraft. The gold lining absorbs some of the radiation.
We'll probably find out soon enough.
The newest su57s are more stealthy than the f22
I didn't know the SU-57 was so bad at being stealthy, I was sure it was much better at it.
Russia makes really good 4th gen aircraft. They don't have the engineering know how to elevate their aviation industry past that.
@@LSgaming201 No the difference is that Russia can't PRINT FUCKING MONEY like USA does.
@JT WOODROW it will humble you to know who first discovered stealth. Do some research.
@@EGHG5263 Pyotr Yakovlevich Ufimtsev.
@Global History and Geopolitics The Russians did in the 1950's, the Soviet panel in charge of releasing information didn't see a use for the mathematical formulas in the book they were looking at and released it.
I don't need to do research I already know. I also know that Russian industry is in no way capable of making a true 5th gen jet at real scale. What one Soviet mathematician discovered 80 years ago has no bearing on what Russia is capable of building with its industry right now.
This thing is nowhere close to American tech, because having a laser dot to see vs knowing everythings position is a big difference. It will loose against American tech in most circumstances.
Amazing aircraft
Highly underrated, lots of people say that it’s made from stolen (-35 and f-22 designs, but if that’s true then it’s using technology from the best fighter jets in the world so it’s still going to be better than almost anything else
@@anguswaterhouse9255Unless their implementation of the stolen technology is off. And China *did* steal designs for both the F-22 and the F-35. This has been known since 2014.
@@anguswaterhouse9255 f22 and mig desgin tho
@@didyoumissedmegobareatersk2204 F22s aren't canard deltas tho
Pretty amazing given how much technology they have stolen. You'd think they could run way ahead. But, of course they may not entirely understand the stolen info...
You can't magically make a plane without understanding the stolen data. Most of the things the 'stole' were from debris of crashed American planes which they reverse engineered. According to most sources, they are way ahead than they should be in terms of tech especially when you consider the fact that China was worse than Pakistan and India in terms of almost everything 20-30 years back.
Could be a good plane, but China doesn't have a whole lot of amazing fighter pilots.
I’m sure they’ve stolen everything that you didn’t mention already or felt they didn’t have🤔
The PLAN tried to use J20s to penetrate Indian airspace. The Indian Su-30MKIs were able to pick them up on radar at extreme ranges.
Luneburg lenses....
If it has a fancy decorative paint scheme... its not very stealthy
Is the J-20 RCS calculated before or after the removal of the luneberg lens?
What is Stealth. I say stealth is just a figment of one imagination.
EXAMPLE:
If I have a hot radar sweeping my terrain. And I know there are no Aves species in the area and have never been in the area.
And if they were they would not be moving at the speed of a jet fighter.
So if I'm mending the radar and the Sam Unit.
I don't care how small the Stealth fighter reflection it is or supposed to be.
I know it's not a bird or a flock of birds.
Therefore I'm going to let go everything I have at it or them.
The F-35 and the AIM-260 would eat those J-20 alive. They are going to detect the J-20 much earlier and be able to fire the AIM-120 long before the J-20 knows what is going on. They can direct the AIM-260 to go out to the side and come in where the J-20 has a MUCH larger radar and IR signature. The missile can then hunt for a lock using Passive radar like the HARM missile does if the J-20 is actively scanning for enemies and as it gets closer get a lock with IR like the AIM-9x does and use both to score a hit. If the J-20 detects the AIM-260 and deploys flares and turns off its radar (both will likely not work anyways) the AIM-260 can switch on active radar like the AIM-120 has. With the range of 200km and speed of Mach 5 it is highly unlikely the J-20 will survive. Meanwhile the F-35 has moved out of the area to find another target and the J-20 never knew it was there until likely when the AIM-260 strikes.
F35 radar is worse than j20
@@yuluoxianjun On paper maybe. The problem with a brutal dictator is that he tends to be surrounded by yes-men that will only tell him what he wants to hear and not what really happens. This means things like GDP numbers are basically made up to make him happy and the true capabilities is likely far short of what the white papers say.
@@yuluoxianjunnot worse, they are suited for different roles, they're comparable otherwise, the f35 still has a sensor/electronic advantage
So how do you know felons RCS..??
you should join the 20th keyboard warrior devision
Pakistan, India, America, Japan, have all had no problems picking up the J-20. It’s not stealth
So between the su-57 and the F-22 F-35, so gen 4.7
It looks like a mix between a; jas gipen e, f18, f22 and maybe even a bit of f15
Did you just pick a bunch of wildly different aircraft to mention how it looks like an airframe we haven't seen yet ?
none of the planes you mentioned have canard wings
It has canards and a delta wing.... A lot of planes have that configuration. And how do you see any resemblance to the F-15 and F-18?
When a plane looks like a mix of so vastly diffrent jets, then I think you can call it an orignal design
"But when the new engines go into mass production..."
You mean like the engines for the J-11? Or the radar that the Q-5 never got?
Don't hold your breath!
While living in ZhuCheng, China I often saw the Q-5 flying training missions, And even loaded for flight training, it had a worse clime rate than a fully loaded B-52. It was just embarrassing! China talks a good game, but their batting average is worse than mine...
"when" is the optimal word. they have to actually build the new engines...
The infrared search and track is likely the same system used in older 4th gen Soviet jets because there’s no way they developed their own.
Nope. Brand new system.
Some people out here really be thinking chinese engineers can't do anything by themselves
well, here's what I see; a fuselage made for stealth with a front main wing sporting a Cannard and rear main wing, sharp unprotected angles along the wings, fuselage, and tail, uninterrupted circular sections of fuselage for areas such as the nose and engines, and visual camouflage paint (suggesting it is intended for visual range combat).
all signs that Chinese designers opted to directly copy elements of other planes rather than consider their design impacts.
this suggests that Chinese stealth and aircraft design doctrine is well behind what they are attempting to put forward.
The nose is basically the nose of an F-35 so if you think the J-20s nose is not stealthy then the F-35 isnt stealthy either. And if you look at an F-35 it is a lot rounder around the engine.
@@FoquroC31 it's not the features themselves, but rather the combination of various features without consideration to how they interact with eachother
The f35 nose is exceptionally stealthy...until you add a cannard
With the round engine housing radar waves like to ride smooth surfaces, which is nice...exept for when you have two engines right next to eachother, and sticking past behind any other geometry of the plane
The angle tailfins are nice, but with how they are placed over the main wing and at a steep enough angle, radar waves could actually bounce twice and straight back twoards it's source.
The f22/su57 inspired fuselage is nice...untill you realise the pattern is made for an aircraft with a more conventional wing pattern.
@@PRIM1984 The F-35 has very similar tailfins so I don't get your point how they can bounce twice on them?
And about the round engine housings next to each other...
I guess all the other new 5th gen fighters like the turkish Kaan or the korean KF-21 are all not stealthy?
And do you have any sources that say canards make the nose less stealthy?
I guess if you didnt design the canards properly they could increase the radar cross section, but I don't see how they can make the nose less stealthy.
@@FoquroC31 look ath where the f35 tailfin is in relation to the other airfoils
Tailfins at a downward angle like that tend to bounce radar waves downward. The j20 has a main wing in that direction, another place for radar waves to bounce and form a retroreflection effect.
Is technology between America and Russia combined…
Not sure if this is true or not but techs apparently wipe down the aircraft to remove moisture so it doesn't rust. Something in me thinks that this could be true.
Source?
Doesn’t matter . F22 or F35 or J20 , their radar signature will be high when loaded with weapons .✌️🫶🏽
its their first 5th gen fighter i dont think this jet matters... im more interested in their next stealth fighter
It's the most fabulous aircraft ever made. Just ask the Chinese.
We have the better, they have the many. Everyone be safe and be happy. And it’s true bigger is not necessarily better. The chess board is the game
Does it include a phone book so the tiny little pilot can put it on the seat and sit on it so he can see over the dashboard?
Tf is this comment supposed to say
Russia’s jets aren’t even worth mentioning. I do remember seeing someone make a good point about the J-20 though. One of the less-highlighted aspects of 5th-gen aircraft is the ability to sort of compact all the avionics and roles into a suite that can be operated by a single pilot. And yet, China just recently started producing dual-seat J-20s. That’s a bit of a suggestion that not only are the avionics and tech of the J-20 unable to be easily operated by one pilot, they are far more unrefined than the F-22 or the F-35.
yes,Air Carrier is useless more than a fish ship,since Fish ship is earlier than AIR CARRIER.
@@yuluoxianjun That is a comparison so idiotic I have serious doubts about your nation's educational standards. Do you not understand how much easier it is to be able to easily perform all roles as a pilot versus having to divide the roles? Yes, a good pilot and WSO can pull it off, but it's still unnecessarily complicated and leaves the possibility for confusion open in a theater where a matter of seconds can be the deciding factor for life vs. death. The J-20 is a piece of shit. Cry about it.
The two-seat version of the J-20 can command multiple UAVs in combat, with another pilot controlling the UAV.
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@@miaorenfeng1 Do you know that for certain, or is it just a little more CCP propaganda for good measure?
Bro everything is stealthier than the su 57 😂
The F-22 is the greatest flying machine every devised, however, I will say the j-20 is still OK seeing as you know, most of Russia’s fighter jets can really just jet and no fight.
Is that rcs considered stealth or more like reduced visibilty?
Definitely a cool looking design 🤷🏻♂️
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The Canards cannot be understated in how terrible they are for stealth. plus theres the canopy, replicating stealth glass is not something china ever had the ability to do nor is it something they managed to steal from us. Next. the avionics on both the F22 and F35 are still very classified, so even doing this comparison is something no one outside of the pentagon or lockheed is qualified to talk about
Canards are not necessarily bad for stealth. One YF-23 variant also has canards.
@FoquroC31 yeah, it did, take a wild guess why they got rid of them on other variants
@@theduke7539 Probably because the other variants didn't need the extra lift in the front to take off from a carrier
It's basically A Chinese Stealth F-111 how I see it😊😂😊
How is this an F-111? An F-111 is more like comparing it to an SU-34, and the J-20 is more like a delta wing or Euro fighter?
@@greg.peepeefaceby a few things both very long range, both are very large almost in similar size and weights and weapons carry capabilities
@@DARTHBLUNT713 ohhhhh, ok, got it. Thanks
@@greg.peepeeface anytime, thank you for pointing out which I forget to mention that together 🙂💯
It is so funny everyone believes F-22 invisibility fairytales...
ahhh....its putin n jinping deal...putin: help us, we need ammo,and other jinping: ok, help my ws15
The highest quality thing I have seen come out of China is their AKM rifles. They are surprisingly good!
...but ranked among the rest of the world they are probably #12
So an AKM made in China is higher quality than an iPhone also made in China? That's really impressive.
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Iphones aren't known for the quality of their components. Reliability and reparability are quite low.
Everyone cares about the RCS but it’s more than just that. Like he said, mature avionics. US fighters have insane avionics
JAS Gripen E has better avionics comperede with any US fighter.
It can’t be that stealthy cause I see it. It’s right there.
Stop comparing adversary aircraft the the F-22A, there will be no more F-22A's built, and they will all be gone before the NextGen (post-F35) enters service.
So what? These airplanes can't match the F-22, and they won't match its successor. That's the only thing that matters. Add to this the F-35 and equivalent Western aircraft armed with Western AAMs are easily a match for them when flown by Western pilots.
Alex,these are going to end up on Tik Tok. Thar's a huge problem due to copywrite problems
honestly the J-20 doesn't seem to fill the same role as the f-35 or similar jets. It seems more like it's meant to be a stealthy f-15 ex. because china has one thing it's better at, long range aa missiles. So it's possible they are banking the J-20 to serve more as a stealthy missile craft supported b ground radar and awacs. Well our f-35's are meant to get that sport as well but strike a wider range of targets which means they are expected to get closer. And currently don't have the long range aa, but have vastly better ewar tech.
Still can't beat the Russian van lol
to all j20s. u will never know what hit you.
It's the magician and not the wand... Xi-na got no magicians.
It approached F-35 undetected..
Just needed to stop at the word BREAKDOWN!
its just huge.. its too big to be As maneuverable as an F22 or SU57??
even With those cunards!?
AND its lack of sensors compared to an F22 is almost comical!?
What sort of CIA Kool aid have you been swallowing. Even a J16 has better sensors than a F22 let alone a J20.
Did they only give you half the Rmb this month?