The military base next to my house once hosted a F-22 airshow and it was absolutely one of the loudest things I've head in my life. Damm thing was actually louder than a gun range. I went out for groceries and even though the base was about 5~10km away I had to scream at the clerks ear to say anything.
No bro, I’m a crew chief for F35s, I’ve seen and heard F22s overhead and they are QUIET compared to the F35 man, loudest fighter jet I’ve heard to this day
I was at an airshow. and they had an f22 do an backflip. and the plane just broke everything. it did an back flip by going upward and then while staying in the same ALT it just flipped its self. this is the best way I can describe it as there are no words to describe what I saw.
The F-22 and the F-35 are basically spaceships in my mind. I was at an Airshow that had an F-35 and it was nuts. It didn’t do any ridiculous stuff but it could turn around so dang fast. And them being able to launch missiles at targets that other planes are showing is insane.
"Since the 1980s Lockheed had already been experimenting with stealth in the F-117 Nighthawk platform." - Lockheed first began working on stealth as far back as the late 1950s. The SR-71 Blackbird, designed in the early 1960s, was an experiment in stealth.
@@icantcomeupwithagoodusername24 no the sr-71 was indeed stealthy Vs it's contemporaries. All those swooping lines go a long way to shrinking its cross section. And stealth goes back to the second world war with a certain British light bomber (mosquito) being made from wood and being very hard to spot on radar.
@@icantcomeupwithagoodusername24 - The Blackbird was entirely designed to be stealthy and achieved it through a combination of its shape, some of the very first composite materials ever used and its characteristics.
The F-35 is the Hannibal, from the A-Team, of the US military. Intelligent team leader that can combine the best abilities from their team to complete the mission as efficiently as possible. The F-22 acts more like Deadpool. A mutant one man demolition crew that you never see or hear coming
The correct term for the coating on the F22 is not "LO" it's RAM for radiation-absorbent material. Supermaneuvrability is not used to dodge missiles (Yes you can jam the WEZ but that's in dogfighting which is very rare). Energy retention is actually superior for dodging missiles in BVR.
Most people interpret dogfights as just turn rate, but it is VERY complicated, and generally varies between "One circle" and "Two circle" both having sets of complicated and challenging tactics to exploit the advantages of an aircraft. Growling sidewinder gives great demonstrations for the complexity of dogfights.
@@WildmanTrading I understand the complexities of nose-to-nose and nose-to-tail dogfighting. I'm referring to the methods used to defeat moderate to long range fox 3 missiles. In BVR the Raptor primarily benefits from its low observability and high thrust to weight ratio instead of thrust vectoring or supermaneuvrability which are both more suited for one circle dogfighting with high off bore sight fox 2 missiles.
@@supertracker9823 Who cares about dogfighting anymore as it is non existent with new stealth technologies. misiles are now fired beyond visual range and why F22 was being retired.
Can't cite my source unfortunately, but the F-22 has a radar cross-section of equivalent size to a bumblebee. It'll be extremely difficult to make anything that can top this in stealth capabilities.
They constantly upgrade the sensors and electronics, they just don't make it public knowledge. Hell the public didn't even know the F-22 existed till 2005
No? F-22s have not been upgraded in a long time. Their production lines ended a long time ago. I don't know where you're getting that information. There have only been upgrade _proposals_ made, not actual upgrades.
@@SilvaDreams Not even close. There was a F-22 game in 1997 and it was shown to the public the same year. The YF-22 prototype was shown to the public in 1991 in the press conference awarding Lockheed the ATF contract, not sure if it was public even before then. Suffice to say 2005 is very wrong.
This thing is 10x more stealthy than the first production stealth plane which is the F-117 Nighthawk. For reference, 10 Nighthawks hovered above Baghdad in 1991 for over an hour without the Iraqis knowing before they dropped their bombs on key infrastructure in Baghdad. Baghdad was the most heavily fortified and secured location at that time in the world and these things just sat their non-chalant over Baghdad. Edit - Nighthawks RCS is 0.001 F22 RCS is 0.0001 One is the size of a golfball and the other is the size of a bumblebee.
yes. Continue to masturbate on the very real, and, truly something telling number. Because it's idiots in military which display heat emissions from aircraft in a complicated "hedgehog" shaped graph over flat plane top-down view. With pike, obviously being at the back. Yet with radar reflect ability, you can just give a number XD, commoner will "eat" that. You are hilarious, sect of low aR-Cee-eS witnesses.
@@Nesstor01 and that 0.0001 RCS is the unclassified number. In all reality it is probably better than that given how much the US under reports what it's equipment is capable of. US do be living by the mantra of "better to under-promise and over-deliver, than to over-promise and under-deliver."
At one time Japan was in discussions to make the YF-23 a reality for their own Air Force. I’m not sure what became of that, likely due to NATO pressure they’ll end up purchasing the F-35 but to me the YF-23 is an amazing looking aircraft.
5:05 radar absorbing material pre exsisted the f-117. The shape and geometry was the leap forward, not the paint. The smoothness of the B2 and F22 is due to improvements in computer technologies that can calculate and model the required shape.
Some dude said the Mosquito was the first stealth aircraft because it was made of wood. 💀💀💀 I was thinking well what about the things beyond the wood like the frame, the bombs....
Back when I was younger, and the Discovery channel wasn't channeling MTV specials... I saw this documentary once, that implied that the Raptor's paralel edges aid in its " LO " Viewed from above, the leading edges of the air intakes match those of the wings and the airelons. From the front, the Stabelizers line up with the intakes as well, as they do with the Hull intself. These paralel lines match with all the panels that can open as well.... I always believed this to be part of why it's sooooo stealthy, but to be honest, my ghast is thuroughly flabbered at the lack of mention to this fact, over the many years that the '22 has been covered now.
What’s crazy is the F-22 is a 30 year old design, yet no other country has made anything that can come close to its capabilities. This would be like the US first developing the F-15 and F-16 in the 1950’s while the Russians developed the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the 80’s.
@@LoneStarMillennialthat’s the funniest thing i have ever heard, thanks for the laughs. In all seriousness though you would have to be brainwashed or know nothing about jets to think the russians beat us at the moment
That's what I've been saying - and the fact that the US has at least stealth fighters, bombers, and drones as well as a stealth helicopter while everybody else is stuck at 4.5 gen technology is insane. As well as having flying prototypes of 6th gen fighters.
@@LoneStarMillennial😂🤣😂🤣😂 drink that kool aid... That's why every ally backed out of the SU-57 program ... Reduced visibility at best, unreliable motors, crashing in tests, only 11 built 🤦 the f-22 and the f-35 would roll anything Russia has up with minimal losses if any
The English Electric Lightning was one of the first aircraft to exceed the speed of sound in level flight without using after burning. The F106 was capable of low supersonic speeds without afterburner but with a significant range penalty.
There is too much emphasis on the plane but the real battle winner is the missiles. There’s reason why every pilot is more concerned about what the opponent is packing and not what they’re flying.
What??? The Raptor came out of a dogfight with a balloon, unscratched, you say? HOW??? HOW is that even possible?! There's just NO WAY that any ordinary jet could take on a balloon and not lose! This is a clear demonstration of air-to-air superiority by ANY measure. No balloons are safe! 🤣 LMAO 🎈
Yeah. If YOU were an F22, you'd be conflicted too. First, you got to kill something. But second, you killed a balloon instead of a Russian SU-whatthefuckever or a Chinese J-IswearI'mstealthyHonest! They were designed for elite prey... and got used ONCE to shoot down a balloon. So sad.
a fantastic bird huh? Is that your opinion or a documented fact? The Brits shocked the world with the Harrier it was a truly impressive engineering masterpiece for the time, and as an 1980s/90s kid growing up the Harrier posters covered my bedroom walls for many years I admit I was obsessed with this thing, utterly besotted. However the highest pedastool it once sat aloft would quickly disintegrate when the internet came along and all of a sudden I had access to more information than I ever thought possible and thru that enthusiastic exploration of information about the Harrier was countless ex and serving RAF guys who thru countless interviews docos podcasts ect actually set the record straight about this POS (their words) having a keen fondness for an old flame you went through a lot of hard times together is one thing but I can honestly say I've ever heard a Harrier pilot refer to it as a "FANTASTIC BIRD"
The f22 program is one of many examples where a weapon system is so expensive that you don’t want to risk losing one in combat and/or get shot down in enemy territory. Yet it is so good you don’t want to make them available for overseas sales.. which makes them more expensive… which makes you not want to lose them…. Etc etc….
I worked on S-3's years ago that were designed in the 70's. They also had gold colored windscreens. We were told it was a thin layer of gold to protect against EMP.
Actually later on the F22 was considered to be exported but by then the F35 programme was being done and USA never really bothered with a export version. Considering Australia is getting nuclear sub tech. F22 is not special technology. F35 has more advanced technology also. And guess what air to air dogfighting is obsolete now. with the stealth technology of the F35 etc it is all about firing beyond visual range.
Because it needs like 12 countries to produce all the parts, so even with US's massive tech sector, the F35 is so complicated and advanced that China or no other country alone can create the F35 alone!
To be able to afford the F-35, the US worked with many of it's allies to boost overall production and lower costs. Didn't work so well, F-35 so over budget and late of deliveries, many countries pulled out all together and others reduced the number committed to. Another great example of the military-industrial complex taking US citizens to the bank....
@@unclebob8746 You are mixing up different issues to meaninglessness. More buyers allows economy of scale. It does not iron out production problems or the issues of making new technology work.
I am/was making a plane in Brick Rigs (a video game), but I could never get the ailerons to work properly. I'd never thought about thrust vectoring (or that typa thing). Until I watched this video. Maybe I'll come back here and leave a comment if it goes well later.
I remember back in 1999, I had Jane's USAF fight simulator. I used to play it every day the entire summer on my windows 98 se machine. Back then the f-15 was everywhere. But I remember playing that game and flying the f-22 and wondering why no one was talking about this plane. The F-16 was more fun in dogfighting cause you could turn, bleed speed and gain it at will. But the F-22 was still pretty fun to fly.
You must be from Los Angeles because I felt like we knew about the F-22 before everyone else. I remember the big rivalry between the Y-23 and the Y-22 rivalry was a big deal in the 90's.
@Ralfi_PoELA Actually no. I'm not from the Los Angeles. I was just really into airplanes. I didn't find out about the Y-22 and Y-23 competition until maybe 2003. There used to be a channel called Discovery Wings that had all kinds of airplane documentaries.. I used to watch that channel religiously.
The reason for the F-117's flat panels and straight lines is not what you think! Lockheed's Skunk Works used computers to model radar reflections, but at the time they were not powerful enough to model curves. So they just designed a low-poly aircraft instead!
Agreed, but allegedly, the reason we haven't sold them is because we wanted to make an even better one. I think the Super Raptor is being produced or is planning to be produced soon
It's because the cold war ended and the Soviet Union collapsed right when they were being produced it wasn't needed. Still somewhat not needed now that nations have their own poor man bombers and can break a leg without the US getting directly involved with their regional disputes. 👌🏾
I believe HLC described it as the "F-22 Thumbtack", cause all it's ever done is pop a baloon. That and not be seen by Iranian or F-4 radar, sneaking up on two of them and then telling them to go home.
It was gimped from the start anyway. It never got all the sensors it was meant to and then they never really bothered with the much needed upgrades. The only positive is that the NGAD is coming earlier so they can retire the F-22.
The F22 has been deployed worldwide almost continuously since it was first fielded! Since they can cloak no one ever sees them except during public air shows. No other country even shows them on their budget, it’s that stealthy!
What a load of BS no stealth is invisible. just the stealth makes them harder to detect at certain long ranges depending on the radar system. OTHR over the horizon radars can detect stealth better and whymore and more countries are bringing them back in. Australia has the biggest most advanced OTHR and stealth planes of USA were never invisible to it and even F35 was tested against it.
My uncle once works on F-22 development. He is a janitor, and he cleaned the room used for engineers to brainstorm and develop any nerd stuff to build this jet fighter
That's actually an accomplishment more magnificent than like 99.99% of humans on earth. Things like fusion reactors, state of the art avionics, quantum computers, these things are peak technology of humans. And to work on the best of the best when it comes to a fighter jet, it don't matter what the fuck you did, if you whiffed the fart of the guy who cleaned the room the engineers used you're a superstar.
"During a visit to the NASA Space Centre in 1962, President Kennedy noticed a janitor carrying a broom. He interrupted his tour, walked over to the man and said: “Hi, I'm Jack Kennedy, what are you doing?” The janitor responded: “I'm helping put a man on the moon, Mr President.”"
Had the USAF chosen the YF 23, Lockeed would had still gotten a chunk of the contract. Northrop couldnt concurrently build the B2's and YF23's in the numbers required and would sure have had a partnership with Lockeed producing assemblies. The Super computer model too date still puts the 23 well ahead of the 22 in terms of far thinking and far relevancy design. The 22 is Awesome but the 23 would had likely been more capable and in the end cheaper per unit. I still think the new Stealth fighter coming out is very much akin with the 23's design and thinking. 2024 should be telling.
I think that is more wishful thinking than anything else. There is nothing that says for sure that the 23 would have been stealthier especially since data points covered show that the 22 had a better horizontal profile. 22 also had better supercruise so getting from target to target faster without afterburner means it could carry out more assignments which isn't factored into the cost per flight.
Is the true speed of the f-22 classified?? Just asking because i dont know. Ive been wondering what the true top speed is for it?? It looks fast as hell. Its a great plane, but my favorite jet is the F-14.
There is a (now declassified) report that shows that the US thought that selling the F22 to Canada and Australia would enhance US security. Not only did the report say it was ok to sell to Australia but that it would be in US interests to do so because it was reduce the cost of basing US aircraft in the Pacific. But after lobbying by the F35 manufacturers, the US government banned all exports of the F22 because it would reduce the sales of F35s. In the early days of the programme, the F35 struggled with sales because no one wanted it. It's not a great fighter and not a great attack aircraft. Those countries that needed an Air Defence fighter all wanted the F22. So, the ban in sales enabled the F35 programme to survive. Not the first time that US industry has put security of the US second to profits.
Who's going to attack us? Ze Germans? 💀💀💀 It was a consideration that was introduced it wasn't mandatory. Plus the Soviet Union collapsed when they got produced. The F-35 wasn't the result of no one wanting them it was the result of Britain, Israel, Japan, S. Korea, Australia, and others wanting to purchase the F-22 so the US made the poor mans version of a somewhat stealth fighter, somewhat 5th gen multirole aircraft for them to purchase. It was an international program. 😂😂😂
It took the Americans over 30 years to manufacture a fighter jet with THRUST VICTOR burners to perform the COBRA maneuver.. 30 years before that (of not more) the Russians DID that maneuver with both the SU-27 and the MIG-29 and WITHOUT The thrust Victor engines
So much talk about thrust vectoring and supermenouverability while casually ignoring the Sukhoi family Edit 1: Su family had first production thrust vectoring aircraft, all while Raptor or X-31 were under development. X-31 was a knee jerk reaction to the Russian advances in thrust vectoring. The US still lags in the tech Even F35 was inspired from Yak-141 duct fan (which was based on French designs). Any rational commentator would push that reference in.
@@Monarch683 Just because you're uneducated, does't mean you should openly proclaim so. Su family had first production thrust vectoring aircraft, all while Raptor or X-31 were under development. X-31 was a knee jerk reaction to the Russian advances in thrust vectoring. The US still lags in the tech Even F35 was inspired from Yak-141 duct fan (which was based on French designs). Any rational commentator would push that reference in.
I love this channel's videos. I especially love the narrator, his voice is great for the job. Plus his funny little quibs are great. I just wish I didn't have to wait so long between videos. I'm not Russian, but hint hint knudge knudge...😂
The F-117 was retired from active service in 2008, marking the end of an era for this pioneering stealth aircraft. Its legacy continues to influence modern stealth technology and the design of future aircraft, showcasing its enduring impact on military aviation despite its relatively short operational lifespan.
the f117 will alwasy be the only jet fighter that felt like coming from the future . it really looked extra terestrial .nothing looks like it even today .
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Being a single-seat airplane means I'll never get to fly in the F-22 ... BUMMER ...
Mega bummer and I cry about it everyday
Just for the record, it's a tight squeeze.
Just use a simulation 😊
It’s all of our dreams to sad😭😭😭
They might let you sit in the bombbbay🤔
The military base next to my house once hosted a F-22 airshow and it was absolutely one of the loudest things I've head in my life. Damm thing was actually louder than a gun range.
I went out for groceries and even though the base was about 5~10km away I had to scream at the clerks ear to say anything.
Louder than Russia suk hoi? I think Russian jet is the loudest.
@@maemilev probably. I am from Russia and hear weird things sometime that sounds like a jet
No bro, I’m a crew chief for F35s, I’ve seen and heard F22s overhead and they are QUIET compared to the F35 man, loudest fighter jet I’ve heard to this day
@PipelineF35guy Oh yeah, I've heard that as well from my Airforce friends. Can't even imagine the noise.
I thought explosives were loud
They are capable of being quiet, but during maneuvers and gaining altitude that's out the window.
I was at an airshow. and they had an f22 do an backflip. and the plane just broke everything. it did an back flip by going upward and then while staying in the same ALT it just flipped its self. this is the best way I can describe it as there are no words to describe what I saw.
Seriously! Seeing them in person, doing things that would stall another plane, or kill the pilot, is amazing
@@The_Mimewarif the pilot crashed then he would die, yes
@@NorthWestKings not at all what I said or meant
@@NorthWestKings
Pilots have survived crashes before.
So, technically NO
@@The_MimewarI 100% agree with you!
I could just watch footage of the F-22 flying for hours.
Such an amazing aircraft
The Growling Sidewinder F22 fights are cool.
It’s a sexy aircraft!
"Would you intercept me?
I'd intercept me" - F22 raptor.
xD
He's sick and tired of this vegan balloon diet shit.
NEEDS MORE MEAT MEAT IN HIS PLATE😆!
HLC shoutout
Let him eat.
I see youre Man of culture as well
I'd intercept me sooo hard!
The F-22 and the F-35 are basically spaceships in my mind.
I was at an Airshow that had an F-35 and it was nuts. It didn’t do any ridiculous stuff but it could turn around so dang fast.
And them being able to launch missiles at targets that other planes are showing is insane.
No if you want a stealthy spaceship plane, Boeing X-37b.
The F35 is not American!! It's us, UK, Spain, and Israel who all invested and developed it. So F35 is not an American plane.
It's not spaceship because it needs air to fly
@@obergruppenfuhrer-dude it’s a rhetorical comparison😟😟😟
"Since the 1980s Lockheed had already been experimenting with stealth in the F-117 Nighthawk platform." - Lockheed first began working on stealth as far back as the late 1950s. The SR-71 Blackbird, designed in the early 1960s, was an experiment in stealth.
No, no the sr-71 is fast not stealthy
@@icantcomeupwithagoodusername24 no the sr-71 was indeed stealthy Vs it's contemporaries.
All those swooping lines go a long way to shrinking its cross section.
And stealth goes back to the second world war with a certain British light bomber (mosquito) being made from wood and being very hard to spot on radar.
@@icantcomeupwithagoodusername24 - The Blackbird was entirely designed to be stealthy and achieved it through a combination of its shape, some of the very first composite materials ever used and its characteristics.
@@crashburn3292 yeah but the main point was to be fast not stealthy as missiles were fired at it. It has more in common with the U2 than the 117
@@crashburn3292 Stealth goes back to 1200BC when they used the Trojan horse
I visited Lockheed/Marietta by invitation of my nephew, who built C130s there. I saw the last run of F22s being built in the same building.
Had a similar oppurtunity with the boy scouts way back in the day to see the last 3 f22s at the same lockheed plant in marietta
And this kind of tour is how the Russians used gummy shoes to pick up the material to take back to their labs and reverse-engineer the coatings.
@@davidboatman925that’s a bullshit comment I would say
@@davidboatman925 And in typical Russian fashion, haven't even managed to come close in over 30 years lol
Didn't expect for you to drop the F-Bomb 😂
LOL, he got excited.
The F22 and F35 are incredible pieces of machinery - it’s art in the deadliest form. God I love this country - US Army Vet
I agree 110%!! I'm also a Army vet served in Iraq 10-12. Cheers
@@dieselboy610 yay hurray for death machines what a thing to be proud of
too much soy in your diet boy, be gone.@@UgurkanAtes-m2e
Wouldn't you prefer to have free Healthcare instead?
@@UgurkanAtes-m2eit’s why you’re free, bud
The F-35 is the Hannibal, from the A-Team, of the US military. Intelligent team leader that can combine the best abilities from their team to complete the mission as efficiently as possible. The F-22 acts more like Deadpool. A mutant one man demolition crew that you never see or hear coming
F35 is ultimate information death machine thing, killer.
F-35 is a glorified harrier, it's just a modernized version.
@SilvaDreams f35 is not just a modernized harrier it's a completely different design. A modernized harrier will be a harrier that has been upgraded.
@@SilvaDreams”Just?” You’re really going to trivialize the sweat and blood thousands of smart, dedicated people that created the F-35?
I heard the F-35 is shit.😂
The correct term for the coating on the F22 is not "LO" it's RAM for radiation-absorbent material.
Supermaneuvrability is not used to dodge missiles (Yes you can jam the WEZ but that's in dogfighting which is very rare). Energy retention is actually superior for dodging missiles in BVR.
Most people interpret dogfights as just turn rate, but it is VERY complicated, and generally varies between "One circle" and "Two circle" both having sets of complicated and challenging tactics to exploit the advantages of an aircraft. Growling sidewinder gives great demonstrations for the complexity of dogfights.
@@WildmanTrading while GS uses perfect theoretical technique DCS cannot compensate for pilot fatigue from constant g loads.
@@WildmanTrading i mean growling sidewinder uses dcs but ehhh
@@WildmanTrading I understand the complexities of nose-to-nose and nose-to-tail dogfighting. I'm referring to the methods used to defeat moderate to long range fox 3 missiles. In BVR the Raptor primarily benefits from its low observability and high thrust to weight ratio instead of thrust vectoring or supermaneuvrability which are both more suited for one circle dogfighting with high off bore sight fox 2 missiles.
@@supertracker9823 Who cares about dogfighting anymore as it is non existent with new stealth technologies. misiles are now fired beyond visual range and why F22 was being retired.
They're afraid that accidentally they will sell Starscream
When nobody knows the F-22's missions or even seen them fight, then THAT is how stealthy they are.
Considering one litterally snuck up on two Iranian jets and politely told them to go home... yeah.
Can't cite my source unfortunately, but the F-22 has a radar cross-section of equivalent size to a bumblebee.
It'll be extremely difficult to make anything that can top this in stealth capabilities.
@@TornaitSuperBird Smaller actually, the B-2 bomber has a radar cross section of about 0.01 inches and the F-22 is 0.001
@@SilvaDreams radar cross section for military jets means nothing today, by design
Yeah, it's battle proven vs the most formidable and advanced super aircraft in the world: chinese balloon.
You don't mention they have just been upgrading the Raptor to current tech. I'm happy to see they decided to support the platform.
They constantly upgrade the sensors and electronics, they just don't make it public knowledge. Hell the public didn't even know the F-22 existed till 2005
@@SilvaDreamstell that to any one in Atlanta, and you will find out otherwise.
@@bowez9 I used to live near Dobbins Air Force Reserve base. It was so loud after Sept 11th.
No? F-22s have not been upgraded in a long time. Their production lines ended a long time ago. I don't know where you're getting that information. There have only been upgrade _proposals_ made, not actual upgrades.
@@SilvaDreams Not even close. There was a F-22 game in 1997 and it was shown to the public the same year. The YF-22 prototype was shown to the public in 1991 in the press conference awarding Lockheed the ATF contract, not sure if it was public even before then.
Suffice to say 2005 is very wrong.
This thing is 10x more stealthy than the first production stealth plane which is the F-117 Nighthawk. For reference, 10 Nighthawks hovered above Baghdad in 1991 for over an hour without the Iraqis knowing before they dropped their bombs on key infrastructure in Baghdad. Baghdad was the most heavily fortified and secured location at that time in the world and these things just sat their non-chalant over Baghdad.
Edit - Nighthawks RCS is 0.001
F22 RCS is 0.0001
One is the size of a golfball and the other is the size of a bumblebee.
yes. Continue to masturbate on the very real, and, truly something telling number. Because it's idiots in military which display heat emissions from aircraft in a complicated "hedgehog" shaped graph over flat plane top-down view. With pike, obviously being at the back.
Yet with radar reflect ability, you can just give a number XD, commoner will "eat" that.
You are hilarious, sect of low aR-Cee-eS witnesses.
You're actually incorrect. The F117 is the stealthiest aircraft we have
@@jackbower8671 actually you're incorrect. The F22 is stealthier than the F117.
F22 RCS 0.0001
F117 RCS 0.001
@@jackbower8671 The f22 is way more stealthy than the f117.
@@Nesstor01 and that 0.0001 RCS is the unclassified number. In all reality it is probably better than that given how much the US under reports what it's equipment is capable of. US do be living by the mantra of "better to under-promise and over-deliver, than to over-promise and under-deliver."
It's like when you were a kid, you'd never let anyone else play with your favourite marble. It was that special ;)
My uncle worked on all of the emergency stuff inside of the YF-23. He was a designer. He didn’t do much, but he mainly worked on the ejection seat.
At one time Japan was in discussions to make the YF-23 a reality for their own Air Force. I’m not sure what became of that, likely due to NATO pressure they’ll end up purchasing the F-35 but to me the YF-23 is an amazing looking aircraft.
Would not have been available for export
Japan, has tried over and over again to persuade the US to allow them to purchase the F-22
Didn't do much?! He was apart of the YF-23 program, that's plenty.
Didn't do much? TELL THAT TO THE GUY THAT NEEDED THAT SEAT......
This channel is pure Gold. Period.
Was near Langley today and got to watch 6 raptors and 2 or 3 trainers do maneuvers. Second favorite plane of all time. Absolutely beautiful jer
This reminds me of C&C Generals, an air-to-air combat fighter jet. F-22 Raptor.
Stealth Bombers and Jets are the by far most important weapon in an army. Who has the most and best of them, will win huge wars.
People forget how awesome the YF-23 was.
Japan uses them by the way. They didn't go to waste thankfully.
5:05 radar absorbing material pre exsisted the f-117. The shape and geometry was the leap forward, not the paint. The smoothness of the B2 and F22 is due to improvements in computer technologies that can calculate and model the required shape.
Yup, first plane they used ram on was the sr-71
Some dude said the Mosquito was the first stealth aircraft because it was made of wood. 💀💀💀 I was thinking well what about the things beyond the wood like the frame, the bombs....
Chinese accesing VPN to watch this NWYT's video: *Write that down, Write that down*
ive been waiting for this video for so long
The kid getting his own video, love it
Very nice video. Thank you for posting it!
she came out without a scratch against a baloon - wow impressive.
It was a really big balloon... Scary too.
Back when I was younger, and the Discovery channel wasn't channeling MTV specials... I saw this documentary once, that implied that the Raptor's paralel edges aid in its " LO "
Viewed from above, the leading edges of the air intakes match those of the wings and the airelons.
From the front, the Stabelizers line up with the intakes as well, as they do with the Hull intself.
These paralel lines match with all the panels that can open as well....
I always believed this to be part of why it's sooooo stealthy, but to be honest, my ghast is thuroughly flabbered at the lack of mention to this fact, over the many years that the '22 has been covered now.
I'm never going to question the intent of inbound steel marbles again!!
The F-22 is my all time favorite jet. And is still the king of the skies
I always loved the overall design of the F22 the most. I hope it's replacement would be just as sleek
It's the ultimate strategy for not being shot down. Not being in a combat zone at all.
thats the cool thing about stealth, you are not able to tell the difference if you are not flying the raptor
What’s crazy is the F-22 is a 30 year old design, yet no other country has made anything that can come close to its capabilities. This would be like the US first developing the F-15 and F-16 in the 1950’s while the Russians developed the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the 80’s.
You are very ignorant. The F-22 is outclassed by Russian rivals. We, the US, hasn't made a serious fighter plane since the F-15.
@@LoneStarMillennialthat’s the funniest thing i have ever heard, thanks for the laughs. In all seriousness though you would have to be brainwashed or know nothing about jets to think the russians beat us at the moment
That's what I've been saying - and the fact that the US has at least stealth fighters, bombers, and drones as well as a stealth helicopter while everybody else is stuck at 4.5 gen technology is insane. As well as having flying prototypes of 6th gen fighters.
@@LoneStarMillennial Russians are so stealthy nobody can find their 5th Gen planes.
@@LoneStarMillennial😂🤣😂🤣😂 drink that kool aid... That's why every ally backed out of the SU-57 program ... Reduced visibility at best, unreliable motors, crashing in tests, only 11 built 🤦 the f-22 and the f-35 would roll anything Russia has up with minimal losses if any
The English Electric Lightning was one of the first aircraft to exceed the speed of sound in level flight without using after burning.
The F106 was capable of low supersonic speeds without afterburner but with a significant range penalty.
"would you intercept me?
I'd intercept me"
-22
*smacks lips*
There is too much emphasis on the plane but the real battle winner is the missiles. There’s reason why every pilot is more concerned about what the opponent is packing and not what they’re flying.
Afterburners also use a ton of fuel.
Coming back from a dogfight with a balloon without a scratch. Nice to hear.
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What??? The Raptor came out of a dogfight with a balloon, unscratched, you say? HOW??? HOW is that even possible?! There's just NO WAY that any ordinary jet could take on a balloon and not lose! This is a clear demonstration of air-to-air superiority by ANY measure. No balloons are safe! 🤣 LMAO 🎈
Yeah. If YOU were an F22, you'd be conflicted too. First, you got to kill something. But second, you killed a balloon instead of a Russian SU-whatthefuckever or a Chinese J-IswearI'mstealthyHonest!
They were designed for elite prey... and got used ONCE to shoot down a balloon. So sad.
exactly, I've the same question 😂
Thanls for the Video!
The harrier was a fantastic bird. That was when British industry really rocked
a fantastic bird huh? Is that your opinion or a documented fact? The Brits shocked the world with the Harrier it was a truly impressive engineering masterpiece for the time, and as an 1980s/90s kid growing up the Harrier posters covered my bedroom walls for many years I admit I was obsessed with this thing, utterly besotted. However the highest pedastool it once sat aloft would quickly disintegrate when the internet came along and all of a sudden I had access to more information than I ever thought possible and thru that enthusiastic exploration of information about the Harrier was countless ex and serving RAF guys who thru countless interviews docos podcasts ect actually set the record straight about this POS (their words) having a keen fondness for an old flame you went through a lot of hard times together is one thing but I can honestly say I've ever heard a Harrier pilot refer to it as a "FANTASTIC BIRD"
The f22 program is one of many examples where a weapon system is so expensive that you don’t want to risk losing one in combat and/or get shot down in enemy territory. Yet it is so good you don’t want to make them available for overseas sales.. which makes them more expensive… which makes you not want to lose them…. Etc etc….
Did you know F 22's have been on numerous missions around the globe but they're so stealthy that nobody knows anything about those missions 😮
Those damn balloons know!
I worked on S-3's years ago that were designed in the 70's. They also had gold colored windscreens. We were told it was a thin layer of gold to protect against EMP.
Fascinating - funny how the Raptor is kept within the US while the F-35 (which is supposedly more advanced) is being delivered to other countries
Actually later on the F22 was considered to be exported but by then the F35 programme was being done and USA never really bothered with a export version.
Considering Australia is getting nuclear sub tech. F22 is not special technology. F35 has more advanced technology also.
And guess what air to air dogfighting is obsolete now. with the stealth technology of the F35 etc it is all about firing beyond visual range.
Because it needs like 12 countries to produce all the parts, so even with US's massive tech sector, the F35 is so complicated and advanced that China or no other country alone can create the F35 alone!
The lines were destroyed after production stopped. The same factory space is being used to build the F-35.
To be able to afford the F-35, the US worked with many of it's allies to boost overall production and lower costs. Didn't work so well, F-35 so over budget and late of deliveries, many countries pulled out all together and others reduced the number committed to. Another great example of the military-industrial complex taking US citizens to the bank....
@@unclebob8746 You are mixing up different issues to meaninglessness.
More buyers allows economy of scale. It does not iron out production problems or the issues of making new technology work.
The best match the F-22 ever had was against Iron Man.
Separate video on YF23 please.
I lived close to Tyndall AFB in college and the Raptors used to fly over all the time... It was awesome!!
4:12 stealthy as.. oh, fog 😂
“F-22 Raptor as you can see is SSSUPER maneuverable… no, really, she is super maneuverable!”
SU-37: “Hold My Vodka”…
*Switches Physics OFF*
That russian toy is very cute. 😂
I am/was making a plane in Brick Rigs (a video game), but I could never get the ailerons to work properly.
I'd never thought about thrust vectoring (or that typa thing).
Until I watched this video.
Maybe I'll come back here and leave a comment if it goes well later.
Did it not go well?
I remember back in 1999, I had Jane's USAF fight simulator. I used to play it every day the entire summer on my windows 98 se machine. Back then the f-15 was everywhere. But I remember playing that game and flying the f-22 and wondering why no one was talking about this plane. The F-16 was more fun in dogfighting cause you could turn, bleed speed and gain it at will. But the F-22 was still pretty fun to fly.
You must be from Los Angeles because I felt like we knew about the F-22 before everyone else. I remember the big rivalry between the Y-23 and the Y-22 rivalry was a big deal in the 90's.
@Ralfi_PoELA Actually no. I'm not from the Los Angeles. I was just really into airplanes. I didn't find out about the Y-22 and Y-23 competition until maybe 2003. There used to be a channel called Discovery Wings that had all kinds of airplane documentaries.. I used to watch that channel religiously.
The reason for the F-117's flat panels and straight lines is not what you think!
Lockheed's Skunk Works used computers to model radar reflections, but at the time they were not powerful enough to model curves. So they just designed a low-poly aircraft instead!
"WoulD YoU IntErcePT mE? ID InTeRcEpt mE"
I wish that the original order of 750 F-22s were produced and the navy also had a variant of the F-22
Agreed, but allegedly, the reason we haven't sold them is because we wanted to make an even better one. I think the Super Raptor is being produced or is planning to be produced soon
Yes, yes, yes. I’m starting a GoFundMe to restart the production line.
It's because the cold war ended and the Soviet Union collapsed right when they were being produced it wasn't needed. Still somewhat not needed now that nations have their own poor man bombers and can break a leg without the US getting directly involved with their regional disputes. 👌🏾
Put two external fuel tanks on the F22 is like having an ghillie sniper carrying an giant backpack.
lol it’s first combat was with a balloon. That’s less of a dog fight and more of a dog and a chew toy 😂
I believe HLC described it as the "F-22 Thumbtack", cause all it's ever done is pop a baloon. That and not be seen by Iranian or F-4 radar, sneaking up on two of them and then telling them to go home.
The only unclassified missions, I do believe it was used to push russian mercenaries back in Turkey? Syria? Not sure.
@@amb1u5 Wagner in Syria. ConocoPhillips oil field.
A win is a win.
Re: Supercruise - the F-18ABCD/CF-188AB can supercruise with wingtip Sidewinders and fuselage aim-7/120s
Raptor is great, but it hasn't gotten much chance to prove itself.
It was gimped from the start anyway. It never got all the sensors it was meant to and then they never really bothered with the much needed upgrades. The only positive is that the NGAD is coming earlier so they can retire the F-22.
That's actually good.
The F-35 is proof they were because the British, Israelis, Japan, S., Australia, and S. Korea all cried when they couldn't purchase F-22's. 😂😂😂
when you got a jet so good, everyone is afraid to have to fight it
The F22 has been deployed worldwide almost continuously since it was first fielded! Since they can cloak no one ever sees them except during public air shows. No other country even shows them on their budget, it’s that stealthy!
What a load of BS no stealth is invisible. just the stealth makes them harder to detect at certain long ranges depending on the radar system. OTHR over the horizon radars can detect stealth better and whymore and more countries are bringing them back in.
Australia has the biggest most advanced OTHR and stealth planes of USA were never invisible to it and even F35 was tested against it.
The SU-57 is so stealthy that they couldn’t find enough for a squadron!
The YF-22 and YF-23 are 1986 designs. From the ATF program at Edwards Air Force Base.
We were program 23.
The f22 is the sexiest looking jet ever. My fav used to be the f15 but the f22 is just so much better imo
Fans of the F-14 Tomcat demand to differ who is the sexiest plane of all time.
SR-71 Blackbird is a literal spacecraft.
And the ones that exist will never be replaced. The production platforms no longer exist.
My uncle once works on F-22 development. He is a janitor, and he cleaned the room used for engineers to brainstorm and develop any nerd stuff to build this jet fighter
That's actually an accomplishment more magnificent than like 99.99% of humans on earth. Things like fusion reactors, state of the art avionics, quantum computers, these things are peak technology of humans. And to work on the best of the best when it comes to a fighter jet, it don't matter what the fuck you did, if you whiffed the fart of the guy who cleaned the room the engineers used you're a superstar.
"During a visit to the NASA Space Centre in 1962, President Kennedy noticed a janitor carrying a broom. He interrupted his tour, walked over to the man and said: “Hi, I'm Jack Kennedy, what are you doing?” The janitor responded: “I'm helping put a man on the moon, Mr President.”"
Imagine those engineers having to clean their own restrooms.
Yeah, even janitors are important.
HARV is such an amazing test vehicle
Had the USAF chosen the YF 23, Lockeed would had still gotten a chunk of the contract. Northrop couldnt concurrently build the B2's and YF23's in the numbers required and would sure have had a partnership with Lockeed producing assemblies. The Super computer model too date still puts the 23 well ahead of the 22 in terms of far thinking and far relevancy design. The 22 is Awesome but the 23 would had likely been more capable and in the end cheaper per unit. I still think the new Stealth fighter coming out is very much akin with the 23's design and thinking. 2024 should be telling.
I think that is more wishful thinking than anything else. There is nothing that says for sure that the 23 would have been stealthier especially since data points covered show that the 22 had a better horizontal profile. 22 also had better supercruise so getting from target to target faster without afterburner means it could carry out more assignments which isn't factored into the cost per flight.
I ate my dinner whilst watching this. Thankyou NWYT
Is the true speed of the f-22 classified?? Just asking because i dont know. Ive been wondering what the true top speed is for it?? It looks fast as hell. Its a great plane, but my favorite jet is the F-14.
They only list it as Mach 2+ my guess would be around Mach 2.5 but I think the stealth coatings get damaged when they go over a certain speed
@@sc1338ya…heat damage.
It can fly out of tricky situation at close to mach 3 using afterburner.
HE SWEARED! WHAT A GLORIOUS DAY
There is a (now declassified) report that shows that the US thought that selling the F22 to Canada and Australia would enhance US security. Not only did the report say it was ok to sell to Australia but that it would be in US interests to do so because it was reduce the cost of basing US aircraft in the Pacific. But after lobbying by the F35 manufacturers, the US government banned all exports of the F22 because it would reduce the sales of F35s. In the early days of the programme, the F35 struggled with sales because no one wanted it. It's not a great fighter and not a great attack aircraft. Those countries that needed an Air Defence fighter all wanted the F22. So, the ban in sales enabled the F35 programme to survive. Not the first time that US industry has put security of the US second to profits.
Who's going to attack us? Ze Germans? 💀💀💀 It was a consideration that was introduced it wasn't mandatory. Plus the Soviet Union collapsed when they got produced. The F-35 wasn't the result of no one wanting them it was the result of Britain, Israel, Japan, S. Korea, Australia, and others wanting to purchase the F-22 so the US made the poor mans version of a somewhat stealth fighter, somewhat 5th gen multirole aircraft for them to purchase. It was an international program. 😂😂😂
Awesome vid. Favorite fighter jet by far.
It took the Americans over 30 years to manufacture a fighter jet with THRUST VICTOR burners to perform the COBRA maneuver.. 30 years before that (of not more) the Russians DID that maneuver with both the SU-27 and the MIG-29 and WITHOUT The thrust Victor engines
The era of dogfight is over. Such a Manöver is nice in shows but it wont help you if a march 3 AA missle is aiming at you.
You must be horribly uneducated if you think that the cobra maneuver is actually a viable combat maneuver.
I am getting two of these jets one for myself and one for my daughter
So much talk about thrust vectoring and supermenouverability while casually ignoring the Sukhoi family
Edit 1:
Su family had first production thrust vectoring aircraft, all while Raptor or X-31 were under development.
X-31 was a knee jerk reaction to the Russian advances in thrust vectoring. The US still lags in the tech
Even F35 was inspired from Yak-141 duct fan (which was based on French designs).
Any rational commentator would push that reference in.
And? it’s not stealth really
This video isn't even about Suckoi 😂
Video isn't even about Sukhoi. Keep coping, Vatnik.
@@Monarch683 Just because you're uneducated, does't mean you should openly proclaim so.
Su family had first production thrust vectoring aircraft, all while Raptor or X-31 were under development.
X-31 was a knee jerk reaction to the Russian advances in thrust vectoring. The US still lags in the tech
Even F35 was inspired from Yak-141 duct fan (which was based on French designs).
Any rational commentator would push that reference in.
Tf is that wording, it took down a spy balloon without getting a scratch 💀
I too love the piss yellow Canopy that yells "Hey, look at me!"
"...Came out of that dog fight without a scratch" 😂😂😂 fight was with a balloon! 0:10
Is this due to the stealthiness of the F22 that I didn't see it on this entire video?
Hi nwyt, great vid here!
1997!! That's mad to think it's been in the sky for that long...
Imagine what they don't show us😢
At 4:14 he says “Because the raptor is stealthy as… Friiiiick” but he said it so smoothly 😭
F-22 is the sexiest aircraft ever designed! I don't think any aircraft will ever top it.
By any chance do you think you could make a video on the Royal Australian Navy? (Also, love your videos)
Brilliant intro.
4:12 best line in the video
Doing all that still making it look Cool AF, That's Dope!
That "Stealthy as FUCCCK" came out of nowhere and got a serious guffaw out of me
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I love this channel's videos. I especially love the narrator, his voice is great for the job. Plus his funny little quibs are great. I just wish I didn't have to wait so long between videos. I'm not Russian, but hint hint knudge knudge...😂
'dog fight with baloon without a scratch' 🤣🤣🤣
Great info!
The F-117 was retired from active service in 2008, marking the end of an era for this pioneering stealth aircraft. Its legacy continues to influence modern stealth technology and the design of future aircraft, showcasing its enduring impact on military aviation despite its relatively short operational lifespan.
I think they still have a few flying for adversaries during training
the f117 will alwasy be the only jet fighter that felt like coming from the future . it really looked extra terestrial .nothing looks like it even today .
F22 Raptor is the deadliest Fighter Aircraft. No match for this beast.
"Are you the stealthiest because you are an F-22 or are you and F-22 because you are the stealthiest?"
This is the most AMERICAN based explanation videos, especially the Raptor itself is cool as FFFOG! 🔥
Damn what a nice video keep it up👍
damn u guys speedrun a 14 minutes video for 1 minute
Enemy Sukhoi: “bro where’s my squadron they went too fast”
Raptor: “over there”
Sukhoi: *w h a t*