Max’s Top 5️⃣ point guards of all time 👀 | This Just In
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- Max’s Top 5️⃣ point guards of all time 👀 | This Just In
Max Kellerman gives his list for his top 5 point guards of all time and JJ Redick reacts to the list.
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Max doesn't just think outside the box, he thinks outside the whole building.
Nah, tons of people have viewed Lebron as a point guard over the years and at times there’s a legitimate argument for it. These discussions become more and more problematic though in the modern era where position makes basketball is more common.
@@TheHeadincharge You can call LeBron whatever you want. He's not a better point guard than Magic Johnson.
Also, yes it will be problematic, which is why most compare Bron to other forwards. By Max's logic, Jokic will be on this list someday too.
@@Michael_Page he actually is, by almost every statistical category. Magic just made it look better.
@@blank8376 💀Please tell me you’re not serious.
There is no box that’s peoples problem
Did anyone else watch this list and when Magic showed up at #2 think "oh wow Max you're putting John Stockton at #1"?
No when I saw magic at 2 I knew he was gonna put lebron at 1 because if you know max or watched him throughout his years, he has always consider lebron to be a PG. Kind of had a feeling when he put IT at 5
thats exactly what I thought. not having him on the list is a shame and putting lebron on there is idiotic.
John is always#1 to me 😋 I seen him naked in the shower so I call him John cockton mmmmmmm ohhhweeee
When I saw Curry at 3 I thought he might slide CP0 in there. I was almost hot 💀
This the comment i was looking for i knew somebody felt the way i did this list trash without him.
I know what Max point and I respect that, but “Playmaker” doesn’t mean “Point Guard” and Bron usually play Small Forward, Draymond usually play Power Forward, that’s what JJ was talk about
They had to make sure jj couldnt get his real point across in this clip
That’s just the name of their position. When we talk about a true PG we talk about a floor general. That’s Bron.
So what is the definition of a Point guard?
The #1 Point Foward of all time is Scottie "Judas" Pippen. Lebron is #2.
@@Oneil_3x Lol 😂
Max - best point guard -LBJ, Best Forward - LBJ, Best PF - LBJ, Best Center LBJ. Max is really in love with LBJ.
Gimme Iguoudala
Facts.
@@mylaughingeffect3459 Here We Go Again MJ Is The Goat Not Lebrick
🤣
Bronsexual
Max has an amazing way every time he talks basketball, to very eloquently tell the entire world that he doesn't know anything about basketball.
LeBron not a PG but are any of these takes insane? Bron>Magic? Magic>Steph? Steph>O? O>IT? IT> take your pick Stockton/Kidd/Parker/Nash?
@@MattB.1 They're insane because Bron isn't part of the topic you genius
James isn't a point guard
🎯
😂😂😂
I genuinely started laughing when Bron was put at 1 😆.
Me too 🤣🤣🤣
Nah Really, Heard “LeBron James”.. looked up & died laughing 🤣🤣 Hella Spontaneous
U clearly didn’t watch his career, he’s one of the best natural passers ever. Cleveland he was Bette rather magic as a pg
@@pizzathehut1674 amazing that u gathered that I never watched his career from what I said 😆. I didn't say anything about Brons passing, I agree with jj that he is one of the greatest playmakers and passers in the history of the nba. However, he is a point forward. Just take everything that jj said an impose it on me, cus I wholeheartedly agree with what he said.
I was thinkin, it can't be John Stockton. Then he hits me with LeBron
The general rule to determine position is where they defend. LeBron doesn't defend PG's. And actually this season he was positionless since he didn't defend anybody.
magic didnt defend the point guard on the opposing team
😂😂😂
well he did lock up mvp d rose, locked up tony parker, and blocked curry multiple times whn he guarded him in the 2016 finals 🤷🏾♂️
yea now but i watched in the playoffs when lebron guarded tony parker and D-rose so thats not true
@@nashcan6350 check those eastern conference finals (game 4) footage he clamped rose
I love how Max is telling JJ about basketball 😂
so, everyone in the NBA knows basketball? There are ppl in the NBA that literally don't know how to play basketball...they're just athletic...e.g. Jaxson Hayes...you can't dispute this if you're now a Pels fan
@@BillyDee45 what does that have to do with JJ Reddick?
@@BillyDee45 You think JJ spent 15 years in the NBA after 4 years playing for Coach K but doesn't know as much about basketball as Max Kellerman? You think he lasted that long on his athleticism?
A 6'4 unathletic, specialist guard that came before the Curry era needs to know how to hoop or they don't even get college offers
@@BillyDee45 Jaxson Hayes starting to shoot more from outside
This narrative of Steph isn't good in the finals is CRAZY.
2017 26.8pts 8reb 9.4ast
2018 27.5pts 6reb 6.8ast
2019 30.5pts 5.2reb 6ast
Dude just had Kevin Durant on his team who happened to play better. And likely was better because so much attention was on Steph to begin with.
He got robbed in 2015 and 2018
@@allenh3072 only 2015
@@biggestbullsfan8569 and 18
“Just” had Durant😂, hes KEVIN DURANT not to mention Klay, an All Star caliber player can get those numbers when the defense have switch game plans for 3 different players who can explode for 50 on any given night.
I like steph but lets be real, theres an argument that he would be ringless if it wasnt for injuries & Kevin Durant.
@@Dee_Doogie8 and let’s be real you don’t have a clue of basketball
1. Magic Johnson
2. Steph Curry
3. Oscar Robertson
4. Isiah Thomas
5. John Stockton
CP3 instead of Stockton
@@raylin9276 nah bro he chokes too much
Lebron is Number #1
this is the right list
1. Magic Johnson
2. Steph Curry
3. Oscar Robertson
4. Isiah Thomas
5. Jason Kidd
Clyde Frazier often gets overlooked and underrated. Won 2 rings. The greatest Knick ever. Incredible game 7 against lakers then a few years later against the Celtics to lead the Knicks.
Where would you rank him all time ?
@@MADWEIRD not top 5 but close. top 10 for sure. It’s that in all these lists he gets overlooked often. Not even mentioned. He’s an NBA top 50 and then top 75 all time.
This is true
@@PeteCalandra Frazier could certainly be considered for top 5 greatest PG's.. he was fantastic! Also don't forget Tiny Archibald and Gus Williams!
d wade averaged more rebounds and blocks than most bigs did in each category, therefore hes easily a top 5 center ever.
Did he average more than the top 5 centres??? bad argument come again..
@@kod5660 he wasn’t being serious he was mocking Max by using his logic
@@TheOneKeyToLife You obviously are missing the point.. He is making an analogy against Wade for top 5 centre vs LBJ for best PG.. Its not apt at all because Wade is not at the top for any of those stats vs the best bigs of all time and Wade never played Centre LBJ did btw and he played PG officially and won a title.. Maxs arguement is valid this guys counter argument is not.. Its not even an apt analogy..
@@kod5660 Ok let's say top 20 then, so tell me you're putting him ahead of guys he's averaged more ?!.
@@flexinja1166 It's laughable that you think Wade would even crack the top 20 with his averages. His blocks and rebounds are impressive for his position but, taking out positions, Wade didn't play like a center or have the numbers of a top flight center. It's a poor analogy.
By that logic I would pick Wilt Chamberlain as the best point guard.
In 1968 he actually won the MVP and Assist Champion, becoming the only center (excuse me point guard) in NBA history to finish the season as the leader in assists.
But he wasn’t a consistent ball handler and play maker for his whole career
Hahahhaa love it
@@chatopugo8363 it does not matter, Bron is not a PG, never has been, he’s the greatest Small Forward
@@angelaquino6755 why doesn’t it matter ? You just give a statement and not explain why it doesn’t.
@@angelaquino6755 you’re wrong about him not being a PG. he’s played Point Guard in some line ups. Even if they start with a PG
Lebron has been listed as PG 2 out of 19 seasons. 😂
How does Stockton not make this list?
stocken gets disrespected cause he didn’t win a ring
Who you taking out to put Stockton in?
@@Elonas take out lebron, shift everyone else up one spot and put Stockton in at 5
@@Elonas definitely Oscar not even close to has talented as stockton
@@MrLJGH fax
So being a good playmaker makes you a point guard? So I guess that means that Jokic is the PG of the Nuggets. He also occasionally brings the ball up the court so there goes that argument as well.
The term “positionless basketball” is not supposed to be taken literally
Yup 😂😂😂😂
Lebron brings the ball up Jokic does not try again
He is
The term positionless basketball is real
Lebron has played pg multiple times Jokic has not
Max is one of the most creative analysts I’ve ever seen
I was surprised Max did not pick ANDRE IGUODALA for the #1 spot
LeBron is not a point guard max just doesn't know who his 5th guy is
lol true
He coulda put Stockton, bros dumb
Fax. Being good at passing does not make a player a pg 🤦🏿♂️
lebron should be considered a PG
Lebron is more of a point guard than Curry. Idk why Curry is even considered a pg. He is clearly a shooting guard.
Sometimes Max is unbearable to watch when he’s dug in to his take. And when someone *rightfully* pushes back, he gets even worse.
I know.. so annoying
Is d riding all you do?
Greatest lineup of all time!!
PG: LeBron because he can pass well
SG: LeBron because I’ve seen him shoot the ball before, therefore he’s the best
SF: LeBron because he is
PF: LeBron because he is forward so he has to be the best power forward also
C: LeBron because he’s big and can guard centers below 7’ so he has to be the best Center ever.
ESPN truly analyze the game far greater than I ever will
Now JJ knows what Stephen A had to deal with for 4 years 🤣
With their skill levels, Magic and Lebron could’ve switched stats. Magic could have been a 27/7 guy, Lebron could have been a 20/12 guy. Magic could dominate via scoring if he needed to, and Lebron could dominate via passing if he needed to. Because of Lebron’s vast superiority on the defensive end vs. Magic, I have no problems with Max here.
Exactly. Lebron has played point guard on so many teams. If magic was a point guard Lebron is a point guard.
Dude u make no sense magic is a far better leader.. He actually has a winning record unlike lebum....assist are counted differently in the modern nba because u can still get an assist on a play with the player making their on basketball move... It wasn't like that in the 80s or 90s... U had to score off the initial pass... If lebum played in the 80s he would average 25/5/3 playing the way he does now
@@TheTonytone77 ur a casual😭😭
@@masongreen1371 Only 2 seasons was LeBron listed to play PG. He isnt a guard. Magic was brought in the game as a point, and left the game as a point. LeBron is better than Magic, but hes not a guard to be able to make this criteria.
Magic was never as good a scorer as Lebron.. so i very much doubt he could average 27 for his career even if he had a shoot-first mentality.. Lebron if he had shoot-first mentality could probs average close to 30 for his career on the other hand.. by the way, the videos on the playlist on my channel might interest some people!
LeBron fan here, but I was expecting Stockton to be number 1 even without the ring.
JJ Redick has so much to give. Don't waste his time on these stupid lists.
Agreed
But his eye rolls and disdain to all of the dumb analysts is wonderful
Magic
Steph Curry
Isiah Thomas
Oscar Robertson
John Stockton
I’d have have CP3 in there. If injuries weren’t a thing he would really only have 2 post seasons to take ownership for….otherwise he never had a legit team for contention. Stockton is a strong 6. CP3 in honesty would be 3-5 those are all a toss up…..and Steph could argue is more a two guard but won’t argue against him cause hes a killer with that shot. It makes him so hard to guard
Max’s view on this is specifically tailored to him and that’s okay. We just don’t agree with him
I agree LBJ played PG he won a title.. The years he was with Kyrie he was defo the real PG Kyrie did not like to pass.. LBJ is the best PG of all time and your right you can disagree..
Max is right and I've been saying it forever, Steph is only considered a PG because of his size he's really a SG in a PG body. The same went for Allen Iverson, that's why Larry Brown switched him to SG.
So who plays PG for the Warriors?
If steph isn't the point guard, who is
You two👆🏾 obviously aren't reading the comment.
@@yoursportsnow9729 😂😂😂let em be
@@SplashBandicoot5 Lol
Did Max just put LBJ above Magic in the PG all time list? Where is Stockton man?
Tbf Lebron is a better player than Magic but magic is the better passer
The All time assist and steal leader always get snubbed
We’ve been ogling at Lebron’s passing ability and ability to bring scrubs together for almost 2 decades. Dude’s a point guard in a Moses Malone body.
Just because BBQ Chicken's one of your favorite things to eat doesn't mean it's a *Top-5 vegetable* .
Max, you are tripping, broski.
Max has a lot of really big ideas and he sticks with them. Respect.
Only one to say the warriors dynasty wasn't over when he was on first take when everyone wrote them off 💯
Even the monitor hesitated to put LeBron up there 😭😭
JJ's reaction when Max's revealed his #1
IDK if I agree with that but I see his point. That said, Max is certainly unique at times. And that's good. Can you imagine a show that just told you what you were already thinking and never challenged it?
Magic Johnson won championships in high school, college, and pros from 1977-1980. That's a true winner. If LeBron is a point guard, Scottie is a point guard. Scottie guarded Magic in 1991.
Jordan guarded magic more than Scottie did in that 91 finals 🌚
@@mjreeves1 and that's why Phil told him to step aside and let Pippen handle it.
Scottie played a lot at point guard.
Let’s put an end to stupid hot takes like this
ESPN would have a test pattern on the screen 12 hours a day.
Where Ben Simmons at? Mans finessed a full season healthy. Who else has done that?
The way GSW plays, Curry is combination of PG/SG... Guys like Magic, Stockton, IT, Nash, CP3, and Kidd are true PG
max showing why he was kicked off first take
1. Magic Johnson
2. Stephen Curry
3. Steve Nash
4. John Stockton
5. Isiah Thomas
There, i fixed the calamity made by Max
Stockton and Nash NEVER WON. Isiah, Oscar, Kidd, and Cousy were better bc being a pg is about leading a group to winning championships...
Max had me until he brought up Lebron and put him 1st.. I want what he’s smoking 😤
Finally max topping his Igoudala take.
This man just put LeBron as a point guard over magic. Get this man outta here.
people always find a way to leave john stockton out of the top 5 best point guards 💀
JJ understanding more and more why he semi replaced max on first take lol
Well it’s basketball
I don't understand why people discredit Jason Kidd so much. He has a championship and people act like he doesn't have one like Stockton or CP3. He won it in 2011. He wasn't in his prime but he was still a fantastic player and he was without question a top 3 player in that Mavs team in 2011, and you could argue he was more critical for their success than Jason Terry. I mean he not only led the team in assists but he was also number 1 in total assists in the whole playoffs. His scoring definitely wasn't great by all means but his play-making was phenomenal in that run they had.
Well said! I think J Kidd's mark quite frankly is having the BEST FLOOR GAME of all time among PG's. By that, I'm talking combing passing, defense, and rebounding as a package! He combines those elements BETTER than any PG ever! From there, he's a highlight machine type of passer, a top 4 all time in triple doubles, can defend three positions at a great level, and can still get you 15-18 PPG. And when he won a ring with the Mavs, he was VERY VITAL to that team. Averaged 8.2 dimes during the regular season, still had effective defense, and was the ultimate leader. You could play him and Jason Terry together at times because Kidd could defend SG's.
Love Max’s POINT of view… contextually it makes sense. A lot of the times whether he is listed as a “small forward” Bron is typically running the POINT for the majority of his time
Honestly Stockton probably deserved to b on the list. If not 5B.
Top 4 no doubt:
Magic (GOAT PG, probably forever)
Steph (greatest shooter, 5 NBA finals)
Oscar (won an MVP during Wilt & Russell's primes, triple double average for his first 5 years, consensus best all-around player of the 60s, the best all-around guard until Magic)
Isiah (back to back championships, beat Magic, Bird, MJ in the playoffs)
That 5th spot is between Stockton, Nash, Kidd, CP3, Walt Frazier. I consider Jerry West a SG
I say Stockton at 5 but that is just me.
Stockton has records like Wilt that will never be broken. He was a great defender, I have no idea how he doesn't make a list of top 5.
Kyrie stays underrated man won a championship unlike cp3 and kyrie still young
Spot goes to Nash or Stockton, Stockton is the greatest passer ever with assist and steal records that would probably never be broken and then u have Nash with back to back mvps over Kobe Kg Duncan and many other Greats can’t go wrong with either
It's hard but I probably will go with John as well
These two need their own show together!
I love max, but Stockton in place of Lebron would’ve made the most sense in my opinion that nobody asked lol
If this man is an nba analyst then I can be a president someday
john stockton only owns assist record BY FAR and steals BY FAR but you know it is what it is
Lebron would dominate him 😂
He NEVER won
Jerry West underrated af
They say Jerry West was a shooting guard but really he was a combo guard meaning he could do both.
Glad he said lebron, most these analysts won’t say that cause he’s technically not a pg by his stated position. But he is by far the most versatile and best overall player.
Every list of top 5 point guards that don't include Stockton is blasphemous when he is the all time leader in assists and steals.
1) Magic (but then we must include LeBron on this list too as point forward?) 5 rings best passer & general
2) Curry (best shooter ever, 3pt shooting, FT, leadership, rebounding, passing, toughness & 3 rings)
3) Stockton (2nd best passer period, good shooter no rings)
4) Kidd (3rd best passer, defender, rebounder and floor general, 1 ring)
5) Isaiah Thomas (Great all around classic point guard, could do it all & tough 2 rings.)
This is a list I can respect. I may swap Kidd of Oscar Robinson but I won't argue against Kidd being on the list.
Now go talk to Max about his bs for all of us rational people. Thanks in advance. 😂
I would rank Magic Johnson at 1. Stephen Curry at 2. Oscar Robertson at 3. Isiah Thomas at 4. And John Stockton at 5. But your list is very solid too. Jason Kidd was arguably the best point guard in the NBA in the early 2000s. Especially from the 2001/02 season through the 2003/04 season.
@@ace20016 love this list, but I would flip Isiah and Stockton, just because of the rings. I'd also be okay if Stockton or Kidd were number five, but I have Stockton a hair's breadth ahead of Kidd.
Oscar and It are better than Stockton ad kids 💀💀
@@webcrawler2007 Cool. I’m just glad NBA fans are recognizing pure point guards like Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, Oscar Robertson, John Stockton, Isiah Thomas, etc when it come to ranking the top point guards.
Max got a point Lebron is kind of a natural point guard by instincts and Stephen Curry is kind of a natural shooting guard by instincts.
Giannis is a natural SF because he plays like one but nobody is putting him on the SF list. Foh
Jokic play like a guard to so I guess he no longer a center?
@@SosukeTYBW facts
@@BigA678 the power forward position is instinct buddy go find a better argument
@@shyambalvant7050 so Giannis isn't a 4 anymore... Okay buddy
Magic is STILL and probably will always be the best pg ever for one main reason. No he can’t score like lebron but his vision is better and if he’s surrounded by scorers he definitely a better pg than lebron. Lebron looks to score more because he CAN. So it honestly depends on who is around them. It’s a very subjective thing because it’s always gonna depend on teammates
I’m glad to see JJ on here now he’s a great analyst 💪🏽💯🔥
Anyways…. Top 5 PG of all time
Magic
Steph
Oscar
Isaiah
J West
Thank you
Lool facts
Jerry West was only a PG for the last 2-3 years of his career after the Lakers acquired Gail Goodrich. I'd have John Stockton in there if we're just talking about legitimate point guards.
@@Don-md6wn lol he plays pg in his first 7 year.
I'd go
Magic
Steph
IT
Stockton
Chris paul
max said he has never watched oscar robertson play. but as a new yorker he never saw walt clyde frazier play for the knicks either. frazier was a two-time nba champ and finals m v p! one of the best two-way players to ever do it. and by the way. he was a point guard and never gets mentioned amongst the greats...
I agree with Max. Steph is considered a PG because of his height but he is a SG, Bron is considered a SF but is always the best facilitator. LBJ will have double the assist over Curry when they are both done.
In your opinion, a point guard is a person who has the most assist on a team and one of the smallest? That is your criteria of a point guard.
Yet has the most TO’s
1.Magic Johnson
2.Isiah Thomas
3.Jerry West
4.Oscar Robertson
5.John Stockton
You don’t think curry is better then Jerry, Oscar and John
@@Dm-pi6qp better shooter sure, but not a better point guard
Stockton, Paul, Nash NEVER WON! Isiah, Oscar, Kidd, and Cousy were better bc being a pg is about directing a team to championships.
Smh y’all.. when y’all say he was at his best against the warriors he ran point..
Point Guard controls pace ✅
Point Guard facilitates ✅( has a higher career assist per game then curry.. FACTS LOOK IT UP)
Point Guard reads the game ✅
Point Guard finds good match ups, take advantage of mix matches ✅
Okay you can say that about any position
Centers dominate the paint ✅
Centers are physical specimens ✅
Centers rebound the ball ✅
Centers protect the paint ✅
Centers can switch on the perimeter ✅
Lebron does all those things, but he’s not a Center, no matter how many things he can do better than a lot of Centers
Lebron is a Small Forward, Steph is a Point Guard it’s pretty obvious
Just because he’s a better overall player doesn’t mean he’s a better point guard 🤷♂️
Lebron not a better pg than magic nash cp3 curry zeke Stockton stop ig
@@realmencry981 It's called Positions, each position has roles they must play/task to do.
Steph is more of a shooting guard than PG...many things PG's are known for, Steph do not do. Draymon does mainly does them (Control the pace, put team mate in position to score, leads team in assists, pass first)
@@OmarGarcia-qp9tt Steph is actually the best shooting guard not a point guard then..
@@rajaoctober14 steph is a pg not sg he can play sg that doesn’t mean he is one lol James can play pg don’t mean he is one he’s a point forward and curry is a point guard stop it.. look up curry position and he’s always listed as a pg everybody knows he’s a pg he’s not a traditional pg but he’s a pg he can control pace and playmaker and makes his team better
This man Max smoked a fat blunt before putting his top 5 together, especially number 1😭😭
Thanks JJ
Love how they cut Max off midsentence at the end.
Max has a point. When I'm doing my all-time greatest team ( Hakeem,Bird,Klay,MJ,LeBron ) . I have LeBron as the point guard. He's the best playmaker/primary ball-handler you can think off. He's simply more dangerous at the point off the attack then Magic or any other ''tradional '' point guard. And when it comes to distributing the ball he's a hair below Magic and that's more then enough.
Klay?
playmaker, for sure, ball handler, he's great for his size but the spurs loved it when he tried to bring it up court, his handle isn't the tightest in the world, it's gotten a lot better but one thing Luka does better already is compact, secure dribbling.
You said he’s better than magic at pg I almost spit my drink out
@@11TBizz I have a hole theory around it if you wanna hear it lol
That team is really good prime Klay is the best off ball player period.. I think Durant is better than Bird but whatever and Hakeem there are Kareem or Shaq but whatever the team is good and adding Klay is the right balance.
Max Kellerman teacher JJ about basketball is like a guy with a telescope correcting an Astronaut.
I mean max always said hes going to die on this hill so i dont got a problem with it
tony parker has 4 rings he should be getting the same amount of respect as magic both average 20 in the finals and got mvp
Honestly max has a really good point here. How are we defining what we mean by “point guard”? I kind of agree that a point guard on a team should be defined as the player who brings the ball up the court and starts the offense. If thats the case, than the case for lebron as a point guard makes sense. We call steph curry a point guard but he really plays more like a shooting guard, his role is not to start and run the offense on his tream.
So you don't watch basketball. Got it.
so point guard is a role and not a position now?!? If you can shoot like Curry of course you're gonna shoot the ball. i cant believe people discredit him just because he isn't a true pg SMH
@@awishisaheartyourdreammake9222 but he actually is a true point guard. He initiates most of their offense, breaks down the defense, and sets his teammates up better than anyone else on their team. Casuals just think because Draymond can also initiate the offense, that means Steph isn't a point guard. @ezskinsezlife just doesn't understand basketball, also has an absolutely terrible TH-cam name.
@@jakehoover6655 he isn't even top 50 in assists. LeBron is about to be top 5
@@jakehoover6655 Literally go look up stephs usage rate, its not nearly as high as lebrons or other point guards in the league. Steph is an off ball threat first and foremost because of his insane shooting. Ur the one that does watch basketball, fuking moron lmao
You see why Stephen A had him removed from first take 😂😂
I agree with Max as far as putting Bron at the PG if I were making a team! I've ALWAYS said that!
PG- LeBron
SG- Kobe/Mike
SF- Kobe/Mike
PF- Tim Duncan
C- Shaq
why would you ever need kobe and mj on the same team ? literally just take out kobe and add durant or bird 😂
@@bmorejunior kobe can spread the floor better than Mike, Mike and Kobe's defense is better than bird and KD... what's your next question?
TBF tho, I'd put Lebron as my PG just to maximize the talent.
PG- LeBron
SG- MJ
SF- KD
PF- Duncan
C- Shaq
but if you're talking about being coherent then I'd put Curry in my SG than MJ. But I could also remove KD and put Lebron as SF and Curry as my PG and let MJ stay.
@@taepro64 either one is dope!
Good luck shooting the ball 😂
Top 5 point guards of all time
1. Magic
2. Steph
3. John Stockton
4. Oscar Robinson
5. Isaiah Thomas
**sigh** Stockton is still so underrated.
Even Isiah is a supporter of Stockton. You know, the all time leader in Steals AND Assists...two of the few records that are unlikely to ever be broken.
And he COULD/DID score from 2 and 3 range, but chose to pass instead mostly.
Stockton is not better than anyone on that top 5.
Max is right people who say his points aren’t valid don’t watch basketball
According to Basketball Reference, LeBron has only ever played two seasons as a Point Guard. There is no way he is top 5 all-time, let alone number 1.
JJ pulled his punch, he was making that point to Max, but Max doesn't know basketball, he's just a sensationalist.
@@ShutThePuck ESPN probably told JJ we know Stephen A. and Max are clowns, but if you call them that on the air you can't come back.
I kinda see why Stephen ASSmith got him fired
1. Magic
2. Steph
3. West
4. Robertson
5. Cousy
Ppl really sleep on Cousy
L list lol
@@dariotimothy cousy is aint that good cut it out lol
@@dariotimothy Cousy literally shot under 40% fg for his entire career, the average fg% in his era was around 40% for the 50s and around 46% for the 60s so he isn't even efficient in his own era. Dude played half his career in segregation basketball, literally until Bill/Wilt/Oscar/West got into the league there were LITERAL firemen and plumbers or people with dayjobs playing ball
Stockton, Paul, Nash NEVER WON! Isiah, Oscar, Kidd, and Cousy were better bc being a pg is about directing a team to championships. West was a 2.
I understand Max’s point, Curry doesn’t even play like a point guard but we judge him as one, I have no problem with somebody who plays like a point guard although he’s technically a small forward
By his standard about LeBron being a point guard, Steph shouldn't even be on this list.
I refuse to consider Steph as a pg. He plays like a sg to me. Maybe i'm just too old🤷🏿♂️. He's top something though no doubt. Guys amazing.
Yeah he's like a combo guard and PG by default but when you've got a shot that good do you really need to pass?
It's whatever at this point. You can consider him a PG (2nd AT), a Combo guard (best AT), a SG (3rd AT) or just a Guard (4th AT), the point is: he's better than everyone not named Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant or Magic Johnson at the guard position.
@@matiaszazpe4165 Wrong... D-Wade was better than Steph at the guard position.
Steph doesn’t play like a pure pg but he’s a pg. Reggie Miller & Jordan don’t play the same style but they’re both SG’s. Jokic and Shaq don’t have the same style but they’re both centers.
They didn’t even put it up, The producers want nothing to do with that 💀💀
Max... Curry is a PG because he plays that position. LBJ is a forward because he's always played that position. You're confusing playmaking with position.
Agree with Max. Look at how they play, not just the name
I'm a bit confused, is Steph not an Off-ball guard? He usually plays off the ball doesn't he? i.e. he is not a full-time point guard. I agree with Jimmy Wang's post (below), a "Playmaker" is not a "Point Guard".
Not only is he the best PG but he’s the best player 1 through 5 if you look at it from a longevity point of view. Who else has been so good for so long? Who else can defend 1 through 5? Who else basically single handedly beat a perfect team down 3-1 in the finals
thank u basketball GODS for not allowing Lebrons name to be number 1 as a PG over Magic 😂😂🤦♂️ tf really
O lol o play
Max been snorting again 😂😂😂
Curry, Jordan, LeBron, Durant, Shaq.
BEST all Time Starting 5.
*duncan for durant plz
Tim Duncan and Kareem
I don’t appreciate Max interrupting JJ like Max is more qualified than JJ to speak on the topic. Max got his turn to speak, and Reddick has considerably more basketball knowledge, education, and experience. The smartest guy in the room is usually the one listening.
Lebron is a forward💀
And Steph is a SG.
Max talking basketball is like Stephen A talking MMA....
Lebron is better then Magic ? This is some stupid joke
@LCK he is not better then Magic
@@islamtokhov5619 If you think Magic is better than Lebron as a player, the end of the world is coming soon...
@OxyPlatinum Guard and player
@@raylin9276 Prime Magic would cook Prime LB, but LB’s longevity is his plus. They are quite equal
@@islamtokhov5619 lebron is a better finisher, defender, shooter, scorer, etc. the only thing magic is better at is passing.
Lebron averages more points than most point guards but he does averages 7 assists and he does run the offense
Curry is 56 on the all times assists list with 1367. LeBron is 7th with 10045. 100 behind Magic
You need two categories for point guards. One for passing point guards and one for scoring point guards.
As soon as I saw magic at 2 I knew Max was going to put lebron at 1
We need these 2 in more segments together