Ranking the Top 10 NBA Small Forwards of All Time
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Solid list but you can’t leave Rick Barry out of the top ten. He was one of the greatest scorers of all time and carried an ass team to a ring in 75. He also has the highest finals PPG in NBA history and should have won an MVP but the players (who voted back then) didn’t like him.
How come they didn't like him ?
He was an asshole to his teammates and coaches and had a bad attitude. In game 7 of the 1976 WCF against the suns he got jumped by one of the suns players and at halftime he watched video of it and got pissed off at his teammates for not defending him in the fight so in the second half he refused to shoot the ball, ultimately costing them the game, series, and possibly even the title.
Mike Korzemba covered it in one of his videos
@@henrypope4225 Thanks for the information I actually never knew this lol.
@@tj5180 he was a huuuuge jerk
Elgin Baylor "underperformed" in the finals i guess except that night he scored 61 points on the Celtics. Still a record!!
Worth mentioning how valuable scottie’s defence was in the bulls first finals
Thank u for putting Havlicek on the list. He's such a forgotten Celtics legend.
kawhi higher than havlicek? not yet
@J Skeetz I'll put hondo over pierce
@@tj5180 bruh
@@cltchprod7825 how is pierce over hondo ?
@@cltchprod7825 havlicek is easily better. Havlicek and bill russel beat 3 superstars in wilt jerry west and elgin baylor.
Great list Lebron and Bird imo are the best Small Forwards ever.
Easily
Bird better than LeBron
@@andrethegiant2062 are u fucking serious 😐
@@andrethegiant2062 Lebron is probably the best player in the playoffs ever even if he won 4 rings out of 12 finals but I don't care he has most playoff records and has played in the most playoff games plus he carried 2 of the worst teams who played in the finals in the 2007 and 2018 Cleveland Cavaliers and without Lebron Cleveland would never have a championship since 1964.
Bird over Bron. Barry over Pippen. Baylor over Pippen. Wilkins over Pippen.
I would put Rick Barry on this list
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Kawhi is def the most hardest to rank considering his health like unlike most top 5 players at different positions I don’t think he has ever hard a dominant season
Not that hard the shift of power is in his hands, remember how tense it was when he got invited to the lakers with lebron, is it gonna be superteam? All was waiting people especially the media some hyping acting like they know.. but instead he chose clippers building his own team casting serge and pg the man wants to compete, and now hes averaging the most efficient 30+ pts in the playoffs taking less shots than KD, but what sets him apart is his defensive abillities, ive never seen someone who actually can affect luka doncic you can check the stats percentages, he takes on the best players defending them like donovan and luka, i would actually put him above KD in all time list, since to me KD has ZERO rings, kawhi produce 1 - 3 points less than KD but just as efficient and eclipse kd in terms of defense, i think hes easilly top 3 sf of all time
@@reishakyu3553 wait you would put him above KD?
@@t-god2439 easilly, imagine a better defender than jordan but averages 30+ pts on playoffs that are as efficient as KD.. thats kawhi, mj was better offensively and more skilled obviously, but kawhi do be putting jordanesque numbers on playoffs and thats almost guaranteed, now dont get me wrong to kd hes waay neck to neck so my deciding factor are rings.. and to me kd has zero rings, theres literally no difference to if wilt chamberlain joins bill russell.. they gonna win chips? Yea no shit.. BUT i think kd is the current best player in nba.
@@reishakyu3553 is kawhi really a better defender than jordon though?I mean even in his back to back dpoy seasons I dont think he was a considerably better defender than jordan and as his offensive game has gone up his defense has gone down.
@@reishakyu3553 i'd take kd over, considering his accomplishments and longer career so far
IMO Pippen and Tim Duncan never winning a defensive player of the year award is a crime and it shocks me to this day that when ppl talk about TD they gloss over his defense when his defense was amazing
TD is overrated
@@Edogawa199X I heavily disagree with you
@@Edogawa199X 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Facts overrated scorer
They should both have like 3 DPOYs. Ain't nobody guarding all positions + helping others at the same time like Scottie and ain't nobody blocking shots with either hand without jumping like Timmy.
Putting Kawhi over Dr.J is hilarious.
Irving clears four mvps
For real..He doesn't even play much anymore..LOL
@@olbranch it’s stupid to say this now, it would have been a better thing to say last season when he was injured but he’s literally played most of his games after coming back from injury this season
Literally averaging 27 on 50,40,90 since January
No, it’s not
Not really, when you compare the degree of difficulty it took for Kawhi to win chips compared to Dr J isn’t even close
Another great list Mustard!!!
Great list. Stacked with some greats. Gervin and Pierce couldn't even get on this list.
Gervin is a SG, he was in my SGs video
@@YungMustard Gervin played both SG and SF. Just like Havlicek.
@@robs9237 In the ABA he played small forward a majority of the time, but for his NBA career, he played SG for the most part
I’m suprised pierce isn’t on this list at least at 10th but yeah all these players are better than him
@@t-god2439 Dominique Elgin Worthy aren’t better than Pierce yes Pierce is a bad analyst but PP is a FMVPS for a reason a 26ppg scorer 27ppg at best clutch a good defender if PP played today he’d averaged 26 to 28ppg
I cant put kawhi over dr j. The dude is fantastic but he is injured alot. And doesn’t play alot of the games.
I would he more known for his aba days and I think he’s the best aba player ever so that goes to show you I think Kawhi is better all time though
What dose his injuries have to do with him being better offensively, defensively and playmaking over dr J
He's not even a top ten player
In Doc's defense, when he got to the NBA (Philadelphia), he was not as dominant as he had been in the ABA because the Sixers at that time already had a bunch of superstar-types like George McGinnis, Lloyd (later World B.) Free, Darryl Dawkins, and Doug Collins, all of whom had to have the ball, and Doc, being the gentleman he was, willingly deferred to his teammates and Sixers management at that time, when he could easily have demanded to be the first option. After his first two seasons in Philadelphia, the Sixers finally started phasing out their more individualistic one-on-five types and acquiring more team-oriented players like Bobby Jones, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, and finally Moses to win a championship
The kawahi Leonard meat riding is crazy
Well let's be fair when it comes to Mj and Pippen, Mj was 1-9 in playoffs before Pippen so I don't think is fair to say Pippen was a scrub that Jordan carrid. Jordans record without Pippen:
Regular Season: 154-170 (47.5%)
Playoffs: 1-9 (10%)
Pippens record without Jordan:
Regular Season: 295-185 (61.4%)
Playoffs: 19-21 (47.5%)
Doesn't seem like he carried a "scrub"
No one says pippen was a scrub. Bron fans overrate the hell of him. Jordan being 1-9 had nothing to do with pippen not being their.
@@tj5180 ppl literally say MJ carried him so if that's not equivalent to calling him a bum then I don't know what is.
...regarding Larry Legend, look up how many games the Celtics won the year before he arrived vs the games they won Larry's rookie year, keeping in mind that they pretty much ONLY added Larry in the offseason.
To save you the trouble, the number is +32.
What's MJ's? LeBron's?
@@andrewdecker616 Nowhere in the video did he call Pippen a scrub, he said his scoring and efficiency wasn't great during the 2nd 3peat during the Playoffs, Jordan had to shoulder a lot of the scoring.
Jordan has a winning record without Pippen 193-187. When Jordan led the Bulls out of the 1st round Oakley was his number 2, Pippen wasn't even the best rookie on the Bulls, didn't even make a All-Rookie team.
Pippen has a good record without Jordan because he joined Playoff/contending teams: Bulls, Rockets, Blazers
@@KenD67 Bird had Maxwell, Tiny and Cowens to work with his rookie yr. In 78-79 Maxwell led the league in FG%, 2-PtFG%, EFG% and TS%, Maxwell avg 20-10 in 78-79. Maxwell led the league in those categories again in Bird rookie yr while avg 17-9.
It's nice but I'm taking Paul Pierce at 10 over Worthy and Barry at 9 over Wilkins
Wilkins sucked in playoffs because he played for a shitty
Rick Barry needs to be on this list. Other than that good list
Amazing video
Good vid bro
I would have Worthy ahead of Wilkins........systems and what a player is asked to do for his team is my arguement........Leonard would be behind Erving ..........I would have Rick Barry on this list, Now that I think about it, and I might be splitting hairs, but Barry on the list and either Worthy or Wilkins off
Did you see Worthy and Wilkins play? Wilkins was a whole level above no-boards Worthy. One year, Spud Webb outrebounded Worthy.
@@DrJohnnyJ I did. Many Many times. From his days at UNC and so on. But just like I mentioned in my original statement, “ systems and what a player is asked to do “. Worthy had a triple double in the finals too.
Here's another inconvenient fact, the NBA didn't even adopt the 3 point shot until Birds rookie season hence that's when he literally started practicing it. And even at that it wasn't nearly as utilized.
Here is another inconvenient fact few know about - Bird was even a better shooter than what people think. He had a very bad break on one of his fingers shooting hand. It never healed right and Bird had to make adjustments to get back some of his natural shooting motion.
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Goat
@@dillonjennings2878 how
He put Kawhi over DR J 🤡
@@andrethegiant2062 explain how Dr J is better than Kawhi
"Go and get tested for brain damage" I'm dead 😭
GREAT LIST 👍🏾
Hey love the work you put in on all your list just one question
Where is #half-man half - amazing
VINCE CARTER 15
Scottie was an MVP candidate (3rd) when Jordan left, how the hell, is HE a bum that Jordan carried.
MJ truthers who want to make an argument that MJ won 6 chips with zero help say that
He was carried by MJ in the 98 championship, but not because Scottie was a bum. It's because Scottie played with a back injury that had him barely mobile on the court.Secret Base has a video about this championship.
Context matters.
@@Splackavellie85 and Jordan was carried by scottie in 96 finals. Pip had more rebounds assists steals blocks then jordan
@@johncena4096 specially 97 finals !! Pips def leads to champship ..
Pip was above kwai and dr j ... pip was complete player ... ! Kwai is big in a soft babies basketball .. in 90s he would be an ordinary player with no easy jump shot
Melo over human highlight imo
All respect to dom tho
Young Mustard nailed it!
I realize that many of these list are done to provoke thought and get feedback. So I'm not too concerned about the listing order. However, the comments on Elgin Baylor not performing up to speed during the playoffs is totally untrue. Go back and do your homework. Elgin held the playoff record for points in a single game 61 against the Boston Celtics set back in 1962. MJ broke that record by 2 pts 25 yrs later, also against the Celtics. Whenever the Lakers went to the NBA Finals back then they had to face Boston who would be the ultimate winner. They were always hard fought and competitive series, and Elgin did his thing. His PPG during his career is 27 as is his playoff PPG. To me that's a picture of consistency.
As a melo fam this list pains me but there’s not much arguments for me to put him there 😂 maybe over worthy and Dominique but it’s a stretch
It’s not even that much of a stretch fr , to me Melo better than Dominique fr
@@willieearlwashingtonjr1974 how
I got melo top 10
IMO I always felt that james worthy was more of a combo forward that to me felt like a power forward
Bird is still my clutch, hardest-working favorite. LeBron doesn’t finish as well in big games. And Bird never whined or made excuses even when he was seriously injured.
No Melo on this list is wild but great vid
When Tatum is all done and retired he will for sure be in this list
definetly
Only if he stops playing like this
PG
not like this fuck no
1 LBJ
2 Bird
3 KD
4 Erving
5 Baylor
6 Havlicek
7 Kawhi
8 Pippen
9 Barry
10 Wilkins
The kawhi disrespect.
Havlichek can’t dripple with his left but he’s better than Kawhi
@@mikejames7405 Hondo have ore accomplishments 8 time NBA champion, finals mvp, more defensive team, more nba all team 11-5. He is also the Celtics leading scorer.
@@anthonyyasona8237 and Kawhi is a far better scorer, and every other category in basketball then him. 2x champ w many more accomplishments
He has to be better
Good list. Adrian dantley and wilkins are Hm as well
Yea
fire fire fire content! but i think rick barry deserves to be on this list. didnt see him play, but i think his accolades speak for itself too. he won a championship too. id have to kick wilkins out unfortunately.maybe 10b?
How do you leave Rick Barry out of the top 10????
Peak for peak, Larry or Lebron is closer than people think. The amazing difference has been Lebron’s unprecedented longevity. Can’t argue with your list though.
I would like a top 20. Cats like Alex English need some mention. Great channel though.
I love this list overall.
But some of his comments are the worst I ever heard he has a good argument with a terrible I mean a good list with a terrible argument for a lot of this and I and I don't put Pippin in my top 10 I'm sorry
I would bump Kawhi out of the top 5, moving Erving up to #4 and Hondo up to #5.
Wilt and West won the Chip in 72 so I’d say that their “super team”’worked out great. Elgin had to retire just into the season.
72 lakers won 33 straight games best team ever 😂
@@charleynewman4783 Dunno if I'd say best team ever but one of the best ever..they probably aren't beating the '71 Bucks
@@HiNRGboy The only reason the 71 bucks won that year was West's injury, imo.
@@johnjackson229 That's fair to say.. West is one of the all time greats. Still going '71 Bucks are the GOAT team..
@@johnjackson229 It actually pains me to say that too, cuz I got Wilt as my GOAT....well Wilt and Russell both...for different reasons.
You matched six of my top ten. I named Paul Pierce, Carmelo Anthony, Rick Barry and Alex English, instead of James Worthy, Domininque Wilkins, Kawhi Leonard and Elgin Baylor. Elgin was on my power forwards list, and the other three you picked are better than mine.
Great list. One question though, where do you rank Rick Barry? I love Wilkins but Barry was more accomplished.
Get ready top 10
What do you mean there's no middle ground with Scottie Pippen when you argued exactly why there is? Scottie was the second best player on six championship teams and should have led the Bulls to the conference finals in 1994 if not for a horrible call in Game 5, but he also wasn't a top 5 player in the league every year and wasn't great in the postseason for the second 3-peat due to taking on more defensive roles and getting more fouls due to MJ being a step slower defensively. The answer is LITERALLY somewhere in the middle. "No middle ground" here doesn't make any sense.
Jordan was a better defender than Scotty Pippin especially when you consider his offensive load
@@TheRimasyele fax
People forget that “The Doctor,” Julius Erving, was not as dominant in the NBA as he was in the ABA because he was less relied on when he was in the NBA. "The Doctor" was the whole ABA at the time, in fact, he was regarded as the best player in the world at that time in which his stardom had a lot to do with the ABA-NBA merger. Also, "The Doctor's" playing time was reduced by an average of 10-15 minutes in the NBA which is considered as quite significant by professional basketball standards. Therefore, let's get the record straight, it's no mystery that the NBA utilized Julius Erving in a much different capacity than the ABA. Reason being, there were other stars in the NBA that rivaled "The Doctor's" talent in his generation. When he was in the ABA, no one in that basketball league could rival his talent, big difference. 'Nuff said!!!!!!!
Great list, where is the Greek freq tho?? i dont even know what position he plays honestly but he was considered a SF at one point
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You tripping when you said Kawhi might be the goat defensive player. Ever heard of Ben Wallace, Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Russell?
Michael Jeffrey Jordan, scottie pippen, dennis rodman, shaquille oneal, jermaine oneal
Fr also nice name
Alvin Robertson, Gary Payton, Wilt Chamberlain
thats because kawhi is basically doing it in a offensive oriented league without hand checking, all of the guys you named benefitted from that, and also the talent now is better than before, I don't think kawhi is the goat defender, but he is close as heck to it
@@weneedhim526 yes
Well if the only issue is to change the lower positions, this list is kinda good, isn't it?
1. Bird
2. James
3. Pippen
4. Leonard
5. Durant
There is a big difference between looking at stat sheets and actually seeing these guys play. Having seen Lebron's entire career as well as many of the others on this list, I understand why old heads get pissed about how low players they saw get ranked because of ignorance and recency bias. It's also hard to compare eras with different rules. They didn't record blocks for part of Alcindor's career. Jerry West was a great perimeter scorer that didn't't have the benefit of a 3 point line. And so on.
Wait if you seen LeBron's entire Career you might just be an old head
Bron Going on 20yrs in the NBA at a high level.
Jordan Era Old Heads are Old Old Heads who caught the tail end of Magic/Bird
@@Peakfreud Yes, including the Disney Bubble, 4 chips in 19 years is very commendable. Not sure why you mentioned MJ since he wasn’t a small forward? Larry Bird was probably the best small forward I ever saw play when he was at his peak. I saw Bird and Magic’s entire careers.
@@LargeDude2023 M.J mention
Is how those Era's are described
Like Magic/Bird Era.
@@LargeDude2023 But that's besides the point, the point is what's determined and considered an Old Head , ain't the same for everybody.
You and I are old heads, your old heads are Wilt & Jerry West era Old Heads ....which are ancient Old Heads to LaMelo Ball era Type Fans
Or even Steph fans
@@Peakfreud I’ve seen a lot of careers, if that is what you are referring to. I’ve seen the present day guys like Giannis and. Curry, who I think are great players. And I also saw guys like Dell Curry, Magic, Bernard King and Dantley play out their careers.
Paul pierce should be on this list great scorer and extremly clutch
I appreciate the list my only issue is I would’ve put Paul Pierce over Dominique Wilkins Pierce is a Champion, league MVP, and a better all around player other than that good list
I think you mean finals mvp
Dr. J was the MJ of the entire 70s decade of basketball and street ball at the Rucker. All I'm just going to say
Great list, I would switch Dominique for Rick Barry and worthy for Paul Pierce
'Nique over Worthy but not by a lot...Worthy was lucky to get on a great team to start with while Atlanta was (and still is) Atlanta...
Kawhi is really hard to rank. I was expecting Pierce in this list but the position is loaded. Great vid as always!
Pierce is around top 10 or 8th
Kawhi is in battle foe too 5 with Pippen IMO
@@tmac731 kawhi is better then pippen
To think that 3 of the top 4 sf of all time played at the same era
To this day I think LeBron really is a power forward that can facilitate in my book.
I love Larry just like a lot of you......but Lebron is #1 and its not even close
Coz you're dillusional!!! Your Queen James recruits superstars to join him, Bird made everyone around him superstars... that's the difference. Just ask Dirk!!!
@@sonofnam4418 we get it you're racist
@@therealgmoneyd Racist my behind, I'm color-blind! Why can't you accept a white dude is better than your Queen James? MJ is better than Bird, but Bird is better than LeFlop, you dig???
@@sonofnam4418 🌽🌽🌽🌽
@@therealgmoneyd Yeah right!!! Don't ever mention Dirk's name to your Queen James...it gives your idol nightmares 😆 😂😝 LOSER!!!
Where do you think Melo ranks? Obviously the lack of a championship is a big reason why he’s not up here, but his skill/ability is something scary and stacks up well against most everyone on this list.
Not to mention his great international play in the olympics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think maybe he cracks the top 10
nah not top 10 imo, around the 15-20 range and i would say all time, prolly around the 65-75 range
@@YungMustard dude they got James worthy on here he wasn't no where near better then Melo 😂
@@Rjzkickz Dude was a rookie who averaged over 20 ppg... And he averaged over 20 ppg til his 16th season...
@@Rjzkickz casual
@@YungMustardcredibility gone down. dislike
1. Lebron
2. Larry bird
3. KD
4. Julius Erving
5. Kawhi Leonard
6. Scottie Pippen
7. Elgin Baylor
8. Rick Barry
9. John havicek
10. James Worthy
Elgin gotta be top 5, other than that I like the list
Elgin Baylor. He should have delayed his retirement until the END of the 1972 NBA Finals. That ring was his! 😖
I was young enough to remember John Havlicek.
Dr J was on the decline when he played in the Sixers.
Accurate on rating Larry Legend Bird + Lebron James!
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@winesippingcowboy Agreed, the only reason I'm not complaining about DrJ is because he was older when he came to the NBA. If the NBA acknowledged his ABA days he'd definitely be top 3.
ya had me until the last statement. We could argue all around w/stats and health and eras, but how many games did Cleveland win more w/Rookie LeBron than the previous year? I seriously dunno the answer, but I know the number w/Boston adding Larry Legend is +32. LeBron's is actually very impressive too, but "only" +17.
Great point by Onzlo re/the ABA & Dr. J....he was insanely gifted.
How were the 60s weak ? Lol
Is that a serious question? lol
@@YungMustard
Some of ur ranking videos haven't been researched properly and yet ur saying 60s are a weak era when it clearly wasn't. Modern nba fans who say that. Didn't watch the nba back then. I agree with the 70s tho .
@@YungMustard The 60s were not a weak era. Dribbling rules were different so you didn’t see players with insane handles like you do today. Dunking on people was seen as disrespectful back in the day and you didn’t see players doing it. The main thing is that since there were so few teams, teams would play each other far more than they do today. Wilt and Russell would play each other up to 16 times during the regular season, not to mention if it wasn’t one of them, you’d be seeing West and Baylor, Reed and Frazier, and Thurmond and Barry nearly half of the season.
@@henrypope4225 not to mention how the physicality was and defense. People think shaq would domiate but the rules were different for bigs and the way shaq played bully ball.
Bru get off the crack pipe
Glad to see Bird above KD, no comparison there.
Ranking Kahwi ahead of Dr. J is sacrilege!
I would put Kawhi over KD
Ughh finally man. I realized how underrated kawhi is on this comment section.. dumb casuals dont actually watch kawhi plays
I watched both Bird and James thru their careers and couldn't disagree more. Bird plays in James powder puff Era you could add 5 years to his career and no telling how much offense he could have added. Where you had Baylor I would put Big E. But this is all subjective
Scottie over Havlicek on no. 6
and also, if u include Wilkins despite having no rings, u can as well include Melo, either for Wilkins or Worthy
Worthy was as smooth a player as I've ever seen at any position...6'9" and having SUCH a burst and fluidity of motion? I wasn't a Lakers fan but I enjoyed watching him play, even back in his UNC days. Clayton Crowley who did that "Making the Case" videos gets it right - he was the best player on a team that had MJ on it (Senior vs. Freshman MJ) but still...it speaks volumes.
Havlicek wasn't quite the defensive stopper that Scottie was, but he was an offensive force. Pippen was never an alpha on offense and functioned best as a second or third option on that end of the court.
My top 10 SF in this order
1. LBJ
2. KD
3. Larry bird
4. Dr J
5. Kawhi
6. Rick Barry
7. Scottie
8. Havlicek
9. Baylor
10. Human highlight
Honorable mentions: James worthy, Melo (I said PG for SGs) Paul pierce, Grant hill, Alex English, and maybe Mullin or Dantley (I hope I didn't forget anyone else, my knowledge of forwards isn't as sharpe as it is for the guards lol
1. Lebron
2. Bird
3. KD
4. Dr J.
5. Kawhi
6. Havlicek
7. Baylor
8. Pippen
9. Barry
10. Pierce
6-9 are interchangeable
Bird one Pippen out.
My man Kawhi is great and deserves to be on this list for sure. But ahead of Dr J ??? Even KD is questionable at ahead of the doctor
Its a bit of shame with DrJ cause when he entered the NBA he was a bit Old, If DrJ could Team up in the early 70s with Pistol at Atlanta i believe they would won maybe 2-4 Rings in the 70s
Actually, Doc and Pistol DID play together in Atlanta, for three preseason games in 1972. Doc tried to jump from the ABA to the NBA that year before a judge ruled that he had to return to the Virginia Squires, who always had financial problems. The Squires traded him to the New York (now Brooklyn) Nets the next year, whom he led to two ABA championships.
Top 3 rn is Lebron, Bird, and KD. If Giannis continues to dominate how he does, then he might end up in that list
Edit: I was right!
Giannis is a PF
Giannis is power forward dummy, hes already top 3 POINT FORWARD not SMALL FORWARDS.. the guy's big enough to be a center lmfao how is he SF..
Gotta have Melo in there
I don’t know where to put kawhai because of the injuries lately
I would also not put Kevin Durant top three . He bought titles by joining the team that beat him while he had a 3-1 lead with Oklahoma. That isn’t top three material.
He really said year after year after year that Kawhi Leonard performs well in the playoffs
Bird > James
Nope
I hate james so much and LOVE larry bird hes my 3rd favourite player ever.. but no.. as painful as i wrote those..
Ikr Bird>LeBron
No
Lebron is no surprise at 1, I think the big edge I would give him over Bird is longevity. But for peak, Bird was the superior player.
Dude go look at there peak stats lebron from 2008-2018 and bird from 1982-1989
Peak Lebron still > peak bird…and it’s till not close. Larry Legend is still #2 though
@@tampaboy8625 peak for both is a MVP season. Bird didn't even win the MVP on his 50/40/90 seasons, just showing how great some of the other MVP's that edged him out those seasons were that were Magic and MJ.. Peak I give Bird a slight edge, career I give Lebron the advantage as he played much longer at a high level than Bird ever did.
@Pallani not rebounding, defense, or shooting. Passing and defense is about even. Lebron is better finishing at the hoop. Peak Bird was superior to Lebron, but Lebron had a much longer career at a sustained level of greatness.
@Pallani Bird was a WAAAAAY better rebounder than Lebron, not close. Bird average 10 rebounds for his career! As a jumpshooter! Defense is even, Lebron has been a slacker as a defender as he has gotten into his 30's, but in his peak, he was about even with BIrd, Bird was I believe second team all defense 3 times. Passing, Lebron has an edge in assists per game, but a bit misleading as Lebron handles the ball more, about as much as a PG, Bird did not take the mantle in trying to be a "point forward". I can concende Lebron clearly was better at driving to the hoop and finishing and also longevity which is huge. But everything else is either even or, I would take Bird. But I agree, they are the best two SF's ever.
THIS WAS COOL.............
I'd have had baylor above doc. And while he was a jerk. Barry deserves to be top 10
Honestly, is too early to rank Kawhi this high. At least 10th or 9th for now...just 7 seasons in as a superstar. Easy now.
Kawhi has 2 rings as the superstar under two different franchises, one franchise being a laughingstock for majority of its existence.. locked a prime Lebron down for his 1st ring & finals MVP, for the 2nd he has a victory the greatest shooter ever & the greatest scorer ever in Steph & KD… he’s definitely one of the goats at the position & of his generation.
Long gevity isn't as important as records and resumes
@@giiotm8272 talking about the Raptors who've been a laughing stock or spurs ?
@@giiotm8272 lebron put up 28.2 points, 7.8 rebounds, and 4.0 assists on 57/51 how is that locking him down 😂
@@therealgmoneyd look at one on one numbers
Your worst ranking yet. Kawhi is not a top 10 small forward yet. Also, where is Rick Barry? He should be a top 5 forward of all time.
Lol kawhi is a top 10 small forward. Tf u talking about ?
Your Kawhi take is horrible
Multiple dpoys, multiple fmvps, multiple rings. Great on offense and defense
Paul Pierce better be on here
2:20 how you put Dominique Wilkins at ninth if James Murphy has more playoff
You criticize Dominique Wilkins for lack of playoff success with the Atlanta Hawks! It’s a team sport and he didn’t have a Curry Thompson Jordan or Johnson play alongside him remember that when evaluating players!
dr j won 4 mvp and 3 chips if you count aba which i think you should and if you do he should definetly be over leonard in my opinion
Top 10 Small Forwards in NBA History-
10 Paul Pierce....... (10x All-Star ll Finals MVP)
9 Kawhi Leonard.... (Modern Day Scottie Pippen)
8 Scottie Pippen.... (90's Kawhi Leonard)
7 Carmelo Anthony...(Scoring machine 2003-2016)
6 Elgin Baylor........ (60's Carmelo Anthony)
5 John Havlicek...... (13x All-Star ll 8 rings)
4 Julius Erving........ (MVP ll 30,000 points)
3 Larry Bird............. ( 3x MVP ll 12x All-Star)
2 Kevin Durant........ (MVP ll 12x All-Star)
1 LeBron James..... ( 4x MVP 18x All-Star)
Carmelo Anthony-
15 seasons straight averaging over 20 points
10× All-Star
28,000 points (9th All-Time)
Paul Pierce-
10x All-Star
Finals MVP
26,000 points (16th All-Time)
No issues
Scottie too low Stat guy, Havilcek😂, Dr. J too low, won an NBA MVP, Kawhi😂 too high, Bird and LeBron you got right
Hot takes
Kevin Durant is a natural shooting guard for me.
Well, it is your list ........but I was a kid watching Dr J and there's no way Leonard can be above doc on my list .or Durcant
Sean Marion respectable consideration