Skip Bayless Wrong About 'GAME CHANGING' ACL Surgery? Doctor Explains
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2021
- Skip Bayless tweeted Thursday night about a 'game changing' ACL surgery that was just pulled for the first time. Is he wrong?
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Credit to Dr. Murray and her team for being instrumental in developing and performing this novel technique, and props to Dr. Glashow for making it commercially available to patients for the first time. Both valuable in their own right but important to know the different contributions.
I am curious, how does this compare to having PRP (platelet rich plasma) injections done for tendonitis and tendinosis? Also, in your opinion is PRP an effective treatment for tendinosis?
@@prestozable most insurances don't cover PRP. That should tell you something.
@@healthyandrew5294 I unfortunately did 2 sessions of prolotherapy with some little improvement. I also did PRP which I saw no improvement. It has been 2 years of tendinosis now.
Hi Dr. Sutterer, scaffolding plus injection of blood product sounds like recovery will take just as long as the classic acl repair. In addition to that, sounds like there is a higher chance of it failing to repair the torn ligament compared to the usual reconstruction done?
Whenever you hear Skip say ANYTHING you know it carries the weight of a popcorn fart...dude is usually full of shit. Great vid tho doc on your part.
“Don’t come to me for sports analysis don’t go to skip Bayless for breaking medical news”
RESPECT
To be fair I wouldn’t go to skip for sports analysis either😂
@@jackbarlow399 Chris Smoove is a better option than skip Bayless
It's true though, a lot of these teams are super rich and offer players a lot of resources to recover faster while a lot of these high school athletes don't got that privilege. There parents are the ones if they got money to look for medical help or physical therapy. For many because of the money it's a career ending injury,
Bayless thinks Asterisks Brady is great.. I wouldn't listen to that delusional fool at any costs..
@@jackbarlow399 Exactly
Don’t go to Skip Bayless for sports analysis either, for that matter.
I’d go to him before max
@@damienayon50 both are trash
He‘s right about more stuff than you would think. For sure more than steroid head on the other end of the desk or 95% or ESPN
Facts
@@spurs_7798 He’s the worst sports journalist ever. Totally unprofessional and always talking nonsense.
Skip Bayless once said Tebow is more clutch than Tom Brady, don’t worry, we ain’t listening 😂
@@rickiovine2170 Tebow was 0-2 against Brady. I was at one of those games. He was sacked for 23 yards in Denver. How is that clutch?
Everything you warned us against concluding is probably exactly what I would have concluded had you not warned us. Thanks again for your very clear and cogent explanations.
I agree. Nothing he said surprised me and in fact, I thought that the biggest point of the video was not that we shouldn't get too excited about the procedure or truly think that this was the first time it was performed, but more an issue of proper credit being given to those who developed the technique.
Dr. Sutter, love your videos and the info that you are putting out there! What is the difference between The BEAR and the LARS graft? I rehabbed patients with a LARS graft when i was working in Australia (i'm a physiotherapist myself), and seen it used in pro Aussie Rules Football, where a player was able to return 3 months post-op. (This was a rarity and his strength and conditioning pre-injury was on point, and he put in a good amount of rehab in before he surgery itself. But I have also heard of/had experience with the graft deteriorating over time.
I had a Allograft with a cadaver ACL, on my completely torn ACL, was back to work in 23 days serving tables.
I held off on sports but I think I was shooting around after 3 months
Edit: I would also like to add, I have barely visible scaring. No scar bigger then half an inch, 4 separate incisions
2nd edit: completely pain free and 0 issues what so ever 9 years later
Edit 3: they did everything with micro cameras, they never opened me up, it was amazing. I didn't even have to go to a hospital, it was done at a surgical center, I was in and out after like 4 hours and back at home. Dr. Charles Soma did my procedure if anyone is at all curious. Completely non advertisement, just a former patient who he kept from becoming a cripple.
Medicine is truly an amazing thing. It’s crazy how many surgeries now are done with tony incisions and cameras when just a couple of decades ago some of those same surgeries were super invasive and didn’t always work
I had the exact same procedure. I did all the rehab and waited over a 9 months to go back to sports. However, I'm pretty sure I tore it again
I had a cadaver allograft only after my hamstring tendon graft failed… some painful years without soccer… but now, 10 years later it’s held up very well… cold showers are your friend
That's great! How about sensation on your shin? Is there any numbness along your shin?
@@Balin_James yet some people are anti science and anti vaxxers lol
Do you think you could do a video on the surgery that Jack Eichel had recently? Maybe why he wanted it, why Buffalo didn’t, why Vegas allowed it, etc?
Opening bit reminds me of when I was in undergrad for AT and my professor showed the clip of Bill Belichick discussing one of his players injuries and Belichick said "I'm a football coach, not a doctor. They don't call plays, I don't do surgeries"
Yes, shout out to Dr. Murray. I remember reading about BEAR a few years ago and was waiting on it's effectiveness and when it'll get FDA approval. Now we need Surgeons to prescribe soft tissue bodywork post-op before PT to help with swelling and tenderness.
My new favourite channel sports and education combined.. thank you doc
To be fair to you, your sports analysis is probably better than Skip too
Keep up your good work doc
This is why I’m subbed to this channel 😂🔥🔥
Appreciate this objective and accurate commentary. It’s becoming less common in the journalism and reporting world
Ya Talk your shit Brian 💪🏾
Great stuff Brian! We need to make your vids eligible for CME credits
Hey Doc, love your content. Didn't know how to message you this but I'm wondering can you do a video to elaborate on Teofimo Lopez, I heard a doctor say he suffered a collapsed esophagus from cutting weight. Is that really a thing?? I Know he was recently sick, but this all sounds really suspect. Either way thanks doc, keep up the great work!!
"Is Skip Bayless wrong..." I'm going to say yes.
Could you link some journals to this would love to read more
So glad we got Brian he makes the sports world do much better with his break downs. And he post on all major sports too nor just American sports it's awesome
This is what tredavious white had done he's already spring and jumping,his brace has been off for a month, he looks totally fine, only noticeable discrepancy is when you slow-mo his sprints his heel on his left leg( injured leg) doesn't come up as high ( heel to buttox) as his non Injured leg, he is fine tuning now
I tried to get into the study but didnt end up working out this is awesome and i hope people in 10-15 years can get this done instead of the very invasive refonstruction
Hey Dr Brian…That scaffolding repair sounds very similar to my replacement disks when I had cervical fusion and diskectomy. The surgeon said he replace the two disks he removed with cages filled with bone tissue removed from the vertebrae above and below the disk. BTW it was C5-C6-C7 fusion and both disks.
Hey doc, could you do a video on jack eichel and his disc surgery?
Is there a market for different types of acl ligaments for sale? Like we have a super ligament for sports etc. ✌🏻
You shouldn't even be going to Skip for sports analysis he purposely tries to be as controversial as possible with his opinions.
But we should lisent to you about who knows about sports 🤣🤣🤣
@@kb-is1jn He never said you should listen to him instead. A lot of people know Skip purposely has controversial opinions because that’s what gets talked about. If they don’t have outlandish takes, they wouldn’t be entertaining, and nobody would talk about the show. Controversy sells in media. It’s not to say all of his takes are crazy, but their job is ultimately to entertain, so they do say some crazy things every now and then.
What about Stephen A. Smith?
Skip and Cowherd are probably the two worst analysts in my book 🤣
@@kb-is1jn why you mad 😂😂😂🤡
U are awesome Doc S!!
Hey Doc Brian....
I LOVE your opening statement!! So much truth in it!! You'll hear some football players and announcers speak as if they have M.D. after their name... and certainly, don't have the education to back it up!
Do rusty tuckness (bull fighter) injury
Can you review Tank Davis hand injury vs Isac Cruz, based on some replays on one of the uppercuts he struck Cruz’ forearm.
Definitely review the Jack Eichel neck surgery. Highly interested.
I’m having surgery on my labrum in my hip because I tore it. What should I expect pain and stiffness wise?
How he explains the procedure kinda reminds me of micro fracture surgery becoming popular in the NBA and NFL. Will be interesting to see if it could be a viable option for athletes.
Can you please talk about Charlie Morton's injury he suffered during game 1 of this years World Series? Thanks
I had my acl and mcl torn n repaired with my patella tendon. I took my rehab aggressive and I was back on the floor in three months surgery date August 31 back out there in January
Is it similar to the internal brace procedure for a UCL repair? And then coupled with a PRP injection?
I heard about this procedure in 2013-14 when I tore both ACL’s in back to back years. I opted for a conventional hamstring autograft & ACL repair for both injuries. My first tear eventually did rupture again (The second tear was non-contact. The first was the result of a helmet striking my knee. It had more extensive meniscus damage and stress on the surrounding ligaments.) and was replaced with the patellar tendon graft a few years later.
To believe an ACL that was already susceptible to tearing, could heal and be more resilient in a fashion similar to the way bone remodels is not realistic. With the current amount of information we have, I can’t imagine a “rehealed” ACL being more resilient then the patellar tendon (which ultimately does heal itself after removal).
The reduction in invasiveness of the procedure and shorter recovery time sounds good, but I’d have to imagine you would want the strongest possible graft for an athlete. I’m not a doctor, but with my personal experience and background, I’d have to imagine the patellar tendon would be more resilient over time despite the longer recovery.
You are an educator and Skip is an entertainer. I would hope people recognize the difference.
How time flies by, I remember when Dr. Sutterer was just a PM&R Resident. Now he is is a Sports Medicine Fellow.
Brian - I was under the impression that BEAR works best for partial tears and not for whole-tendon tears. Can BEAR work on whole-tendon tears?
Don't go to Skip for breaking medical news or for sports analysis or for really anything other than maybe "entertainment"
For the record, the first ever doctor to perform the surgery is Murray's college Dr. Lyle Micheli. So Murray gets the top researching credit, Micheli gets the pioneer surgeon credit...Dr. Glashow is kinda like the first person to sell the light bulb in a store.
I trust you way more for sports analysis too
How does this procedure differ from the LARS procedure that has been around for a few years? I don't know much about it but it was initially booked as being a faster ACL repair/recovery but early studies were showing an increase in reinjury risk
LARS was a synthetic ligament. This is a repair of the actual ligament
As someone who is having an ACL reconstruction in about four days, I fell for this Skip tweet hard lol
just wait til the rehab, the pain is intolerable bro. I tore both of mine, god speed!
Hope it went well bro!
Thanks for the well wishes but my surgery got cancelled as there was too much unplanned leave and they didn’t have enough staff at the hospital, it is now a next year problem
@@stevendurick9441 Starting to get a taste of socialized medicine... how exciting for all of us.
@@ibealion1 Nah, I quite like having an affordable healthcare system here in Australia. I don’t know what ‘socialised medicine’ has to do with a few staff members from a Private Hospital (separate from the government) taking unplanned leave. Just unfortunate timing, not really a big deal at all
You didn't comment on the only important thing. Is 3-6 months recovery realistic? All the other " technically this is just first commercial operation" is doesn't matter one bit to general public.
I've torn my acl 3 times. Last time I tore it was a year ago and they won't re do the surgery on it
Is the scaffolding eventually absorbed? I’m interested to read more if you could direct.
I love these videos, i wanna see skip reply to this hahahah
Anyone seen the Marlon Humphrey Pec tear? Seems a confusing injury; one I've not seen in NFL
I will be an orthopedic doctor in about 5-6 years wish I will be able to performer this metod in the future
That intro!! 💀💀💀
You're awesome! Haha esp., with this video
Since it's such a new procedure, how long do you think it'll take for it to become the standard?
Years. The procedure was FDA approved in 2020 so there are a lot of new trials that have started to test the new tech, but those studies will take time to carry out, and even after they're completed patients need to be monitored for 24 months minimum. So earliest probably 2025, although the option is there for those who look for it to participate in these trials and maybe get it that way.
Skip's tweet is a complete misadvertisement. To my knowledge there is no proof whatsoever that the surgery reduces return to play times to 3-6 months, or really at all. There is some evidence that muscle retention is better after surgery, but the timeline set out by the clinics at the moment is still running after 3 months, practice after 6 months, and return to play after 9 months, which in most sports still ends your season for good. Of course, athletes may recover faster, like in half a year, but the same is true of ACLR, the current gold standard.
Look at Kira Lewis ACL from pelicans please
I would love to see skip’s reaction to this vid! Lol
Nothing Drip Baseless says is genuine. He is paid extremely well to be controversial. Good to see this channel growing towards 1m subs, always quality information.
My hammy never fully recovered from the graph for my ACL. I should have used a donor.
I wouldn’t trust Skip on sports analysis either.
"Is Skip Bayless wrong about [insert topic]"
Usually, yeah
as a physical therapist it's shocking to see this kind of information, skip is beyond wrong he is completely out of date
Skip wants you to review how they put the 6 million dollar man back together and how much it would cost in 2021🤯
Thx for letting us know that Skip Bayless is STILL a headline chaser and not a true journalist. Don't get me wrong, Skip is entertaining, but not always informative.
Damn Doc, you're ratio-ing him on TH-cam. I like it 👌🏽
And Skip will blame LBJ for what he said.. 😁✌️ .. Great vid as always Doc..
Skip is STILL right...This IS a GAME changer for ATHLETES or ANYONE who TEARS their ACL...#GiveMeJESUS
I dont think skip is tryna to say this is the standard for how acl tears will be treated, I think he threw out that question of the heal period, for his own curiosity, as is his right, but I don't think you should be saying he's completely wrong for tweeting, this technically yes he's wrong with saying it's the first procedure of this kind, but also he's not because if it was the first COMMMERCIA TEST, witch is the key word here, technically yes he is right, because you cannot consider the research period as concrete this is the first time we're doing somthing like this, research and testing is one thing, doing it in acualality is completely different and as a doctor who gives out medical info all the time you should know those FOR SURE !!
“C’mon Skiyuuup” - hall of famer Shannon Sharpe
1:31 are there some differences in performance? is a reconstructed ACL better than a sewed ACL? If reconstruction ends being better in performance, its only a matter of price that is not affordable to everybody and so Brian said "compared to a reconstruction which is what you gonna see in an athlete"? Because it would just be ridicolous to hear that only people with a pro athlete contract get authorization to that kind of treatment, why "common people" couldn't get that kind of treatment as well? Like if an amateur athlete got injured and is ACL is torn, the only treatment he can get is seweing and losing performance becuse of injury... it just wouldn't be fair...
It is more dependent on the individual and the damage. It’s like comparing an injury in a 20ish athlete and a 60ish typical adult. The surgery choice for each of them may be very different.
It also depends on the physical condition of the patient. A younger athletic person is more likely to be a candidate for this than someone who is sedentary and overweight.
I shattered and dislocated my right ankle in 2011, basically pulled a Dak Prescott. I was in my mid 40’s somewhat fit, but had some chronic health issues. When I went for PT, the therapist was very concerned I would wind up with a lifetime limp. And probably not get full range of motion.
I finished PT almost 3 wks sooner than they thought. Had full range and not a bit of a limp.
Turned out they had had 4 young 20’s male patients come in recently with less severe fractures. All were very athletic, one was a firefighter, another ran marathons. But none of them followed the “rules” post op of non weight bearing, and doing the basic exercises we were given. They were unable to regain full range, they all had a limp. And had ongoing pain. The firefighter had to resign. And the marathoner could no longer run.
I hope you can see that it will be a decision of the surgeon and the patient as to what is best for them.
@@1packatak thank you for the answer, post op rehab and pt its like key factor, i'm kinda stunned to read that athlethic guys skipped this
Interesting.... in watching this video, basically the biggest issue here is that the original doctor is not getting proper credit. As a journalist, I would think that Skip Bayless would be particularly sensitive to that.
I wouldn't think anyone was actually listening to what Skip has to say..
I wonder if this guy knows anything about that Daniel jones injury. People keep saying it’s a neck strain but it seems more serious to me
Lol we don't even go to skip for sports news.
Sorry Brian, I have to correct you, don’t go to Skip for sports analysis, or anything really.
Keep up the great work. My grand father was an orthopedic surgeon and a legend in that community here.
Honestly don’t go to Skip Bayless for sports analysis either lol
Get em
Where is your salt lamp, Dr. Sutterer?
The first comment... I wish people could take that attitude with COVID. World would be in a better place
I feel bad for the person who isn’t getting the credit they deserve because they didn’t post about it and get all the attention
Greatest Day in Sport Medicine: When CTE was Identified. By Bennet Omalu
Wonder how much Baylis has invested in Glashow’s procedure?
I have a question I just turned 16 and tore my acl no other damage I used a hamstring graft but as a dude who uses a lot of speed and quick moves left and right almost like kyrie and off the ball I’m always cutting and moving laterally, will I get back to doing this after recovery?
Not at all sorry
Yes. You’re young, Focus on your mobility and range of motion .
I probably wouldn't recommend going to Skip Bayless for sports analysis, either.
I'd argue that one shouldn't even go to Skip Bayless for sports analysis.
“…don’t go to Skip Bayliss for breaking medical news…and sports analysis.” 😂
This dude is legit
That's Bayless for you! Has to be the first and still gets it wrong!
Homeboy was NOT happy with Skip 😂
Skip B Is wrong?!?!?!?!? How odd....usually never.happens 😂
WHOOOWHAAAAT?
Skip Bayless left out a metric ton of actual truth to construct his own version of reality??? That's UNHEARD OF if you're literally new to Skip Bayless and his work^^
I remember when everyone got excited about LARS and now they have to live with the consequences
Honestly, don't go to Skip Bayless for sports analysis either
This feels a bit nuance trolly
Whoa, wait up. Skip Bayless was blowing off about something he doesn't really understand? Color me startled. The kid is a game, a baller, and playmaker and a shot caller ...
Have the video paused at 1 second and I can confidently say that if his medical takes are anything like his sports takes... He's horribly wrong lmao
Skip “Baesless” is what’s wrong with American sports analysis.
Don’t go to skip for sports analysis either
Why would anyone ever think what Skip says is true? All he does is say stupid stuff to get a reaction.
Skip gonna say Michael Jordan knows more about medicine than you do. 😂 Skip talks out his you know what most the time.