John Collins Finger Does Not Look Good - Doctor Explains Injury
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- John Collins of the Atlanta Hawks is dealing with a serious looking finger injury and in this video Dr. Brian Sutterer explains what in the world is going on with the finger.
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Hello, what would be the difference in this and a jammed finger?
Ohhh I subscribed to the podcast , sounds fun
Id love to hear you tell about some ancient player whose career was ruined by injuries, but could have been saved If it happened today.
(I dont know if old sabonis counts)
As a hawks fan, this really sucks, but it's also a crazily odd injury.
Not really, basketball football players get this type of injury all the time. I got this on my pinky in HS playing football
Idk why lol they trading Collins anyways
It’s not odd at all. It’s pretty common and I’ve gotten it playing basketball
This is just a Extreme case ...also they don't normally put picture's of it out
@@Smart-Towel-RG-400 everybody puts everything out
Appreciate the reference to Russell Wilson injury with key differences
If they wouldn't have been putting fingers in their own ass they would never had this issue
Aw yes I appreciate that as well. Very thoural with his examination of the two finger injuries.
@@lewisgriffin9684 😂 😂
John is one of my favorite players. Hope recovery is quick as possible.
Sounds like recovery isn’t really an option at this point
I’m taking human anatomy right now (kines Major going to PT school). You’re videos have seriously helped me with learning the structures of the body from bone, to muscle, and joints and so on. I’ve actually recommended your channel to all my classmates as a way to relate what we’re learning to something applicable in real time! Thanks for putting out such thorough and informative content, Doctor!
This is exactly why I love this channel…This same thing happen’d to my finger back in Oct of last yr…The swelling is jus now 95% gone but my finger still isn’t straight…Collins is gonna be down for a while u less he gets surgery…I only did the brace & physical therapy…Finger still hurts if I hit it against anything 💢👋🏾🥴
Dude I'm sorry, finger and mouth injuries SUCK
@@dookiepringles9674 I appreciate it…But the hardest part is ova now that I’ve got the majority of the movement back in it…The swelling/extension is mainly for aesthetics…I jus have long/skinny fingers like Collins so it looks a lil off 😂
Same here. Dislocated the finger feb of 21 and my finger looks exactly like the image above. It operates but i cant pop it like any other finger and its hard to the touch.
@@michaelaguirre5780 dislocated my pinky 5 years ago in basketball, my finger can’t go straight still and it’s still a ball in the middle like the pic
This channel has to be the best on TH-cam by any medical professional!! Appreciate the content, Doc!
I agree! Way more interesting than those "React" videos :P
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what about doctor mike
@@geo8701 Doctor Mike is pretty cool too, but content wise I prefer Brian Sutterer MD than some react video :P
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Had the same injury in A School (Navy School). It was on my left right finger, it happened in 2005 my finger is still jacked up! Love the channel keep it coming.
Love the fast uploads doc!!
Great explanation, as always! Thanks!
I play american football and had the same injury like 5 years ago. Its amazing to finally understand why my finger is still deformed in the same way. Great work doc, thank you so much!
Broo, the same thing happened to my pinky during football practice in highschool;10+ years later, my finger is still fcked(at least ik why lmao now)
@@lionelsenga3752 Same bro my pinkie is still fcked up six years later
Same here, pinky injury during basketball and still looks like it’s “stuck” years later.
@@glew3003 should've went to the doctor and had them fix it.
Why didn't anyone go to the doctor and have them fix it? You could've had a full recovery.
Very, very informative.
I have been scribing for a hand surgeon at a teaching hospital for the past 3 years. If there's anything I have learned in those years about boutonniere, swan neck, or mallet deformity is that splinting is a mix of art and science. I appreciate the explanation of the injury.
Thank for recalling the Mallet finger of Russell Wilson. I remember that video.
Hah! I had the same injury a few years back playing basketball. It looked worse than it felt. I went to the drug store and bought a brace for it… good as new after a few weeks!
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Camera quality looking nice!
Damn his finger don’t look to good
Any plans to cover deandre bembre? You are the goat, and it seems similar to Kevin Ware injury.
Aye another banger from the doc, keep up the good work
My man’s ashy as hell
Your amazing thank you this is so fun !!!
I had a similar injury in high school while playing football. I opted for a splint and tapes to one other finger. Fast forward 23 years and my finger still looks like Collin's finger, but to lesser extent.
My finger looks exactly like this after dislocating it playing baseball 41 years ago! Never missed an inning and never went to the doctor.( yes, hurt bad for the rest of the season) Built us different in the 60’s !
I had this same exact injury 3 years ago and the doctors could never tell me what was wrong so now I'm stuck with my finger slowly getting stiffer and stiffer
Well now you know the answer! Put a brace on your finger to promote scarring and healing of your tendon!
@@sundarpichai940 lol after 3 years, it is never gonna heal.
@@robertoh.20 No way! Just re-tear it and let it heal. I'm a subscriber to this channel so I know. Trust me, bro.
And problem with this injury is the muscles down there becomes wasted in time
That was a great analysis, The hawks better figure this out🤣🤣🤣
Man I remember doing a crash course for the USMLE. Boutonniere and Swan Neck deformity! 😂
I have the John Collins injury on my left pinky finger, and mallet injury on the middle finger of the same hand. Both collision instances during football. Would love to show the photo.
As an Athletic Training student currently in college and a huge sports fan, I love being able to watch these videos to see real-world instances of things I am learning with such in-depth explanations. Great video as always.
Really interesting. Back in high school, I wrestled and had my ring finger get caught up and bent sideways and looked similar to this bit not as swollen. Never got it treated and eventually the swelling went down to almost normal. Wonder if this is what I had.
I had the same injury and kept playing on it with taped fingers. It happened during a freak play during basketball and pinky is still “stuck” in that position years later. I still hoop and lift weights with it, and haven’t noticed too much of a difference in grip strength other than it being unsightly. Wish there was something I could do to correct it.
there was when it happened, the more time it goes untreated, the less likely it will heal, maybe only surgery might help, before you don't need surgery, unless a bit of bone came off with it.
i see no reasons (other than maybe financial) why anyone would leave such an injury unattended for so long. Those are your fingers! The only ones you'll get in this life. If it was me i'm having surgery on it the same week.
Even if the hand remains pretty functional now, what will it feel like when you're 70, 80 years old? You may have shut your window to full recovery by now.
Lol, you wasn't playing at a professional level
@@lilcourtny08 i was talking about the commenter, not about collins. He should do whatever he has to in order to secure his millions. Just as a person with fingers i'd assume people would take maximum possible care of their own you know
I got injured like this too with same finger in rebound 🤦🏻♂️
What Up Doc!
first!!
Can you look at Jean-François Caron weight lifting injury from last week? Looks like some rotula tendon injury... He's one of the best strongman in the world, but I don't know if he could come back from that
Had this in injury in middle school takes 3-4 months to heal
Ah that raptors jersey in the back though!!! 🔥
Can you do a video on Gerald Green Finger, too. Hope they can save JC’s.
I had this injury splinted for months and it never changed 😭
John Collins finger still looks like this. I guess it's crap shoot how it heals
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏.
Thank you for sharing
I get the same thing in high school when I first was able to dunk because I could only get barely my fingertips Above the Rim and I would try to grip so tight that when I hit the rim it would pry my fingers open and hyperextend and tore the tendon
Remind to not be eating dinner while watching this channel. Thanks.
Can you do an episode on Alan Page and Michael Stahan’ gingers??
Hi Dr S. Would a rupture of the two outside tendons also result in a mallet finger? Most of my pain is medial and laterally at the PIPJ, but results in a mallet finger-like deformity.
This is the same exact type of injury I had in high school
Dr. Sutterer. Im thinking it cant help his injury that every time he is benched and someone gets a three he jumps up and excitedly grasps his forefinger with this thumb and starts whipping his remaining 3 fingers (signalling a 3 pointer) back and forth. He really gets going hard with that at times. When I grasp my forefinger with my thumb my ring finger hyper extends. Flapping you fingers about wildly in that position looks like finger whiplash at times. Help (increase blood flow) or Hurt (minor repetitive strain on a healing joint)?
I’ve had that exact same injury and I didn’t wear my brace long enough and the tip of my ring points up when all my other fingers are flat. An in the joint where the knuckle area is swollen has a permanent point when I make a fist.
Hard to know that it’s not just a ‘pseudo-boutonnière’ without testing active PIPJ extension. I also don’t see DIPJ hyperextension like you would with a boutonnière
At the start of this video I realized that we NEED one at some point where the answer to "Why does it look like this?"
is straight up Photoshop and Brian wishes us all a happy weekend ;)
it's like a mallet finger, but on a different joint. I've had a mallet finger on my pinky finger, what a pain in the ass, 10-12 weeks of keeping the finger straight and not bending, at the end, it's hard to bend, you can only bend it a little at a time with each passing day.
Dion Sanders hammer toe foot caused him to seek amputation. These players need an adequate time to have injuries heal property completely. I'd have a difficult time thinking whether I'd lose function to my hands or feet.
Respek for the Vince Carter jersey!!
I suffered trauma injuries from playing football on my right pinky and my left ring finger I never got these repaired I been dealing with boutonniere deformity for years now...Is it still possible to have surgery or is there any way that I can get my finger back straight again with treatment or excercises?
Nasty injury
That hand looks like it’s ready to catch alley oops 😂
Can that be similar to a hammer toe deformity? The ligaments around the toe contract?
I have this deformity on my left ring finger due sports related injuries and gout.
nooooo, I have two of these on my pinkies from rugby, actually seeing the same hand doctors as John Collins though lol
Is this the same sht we get in middle school but only milder when we awkwardly receive a fast chest pass that slightly bends the finger. More than a decade later, i still cant fully crack 3 of my fingers where it occured. All 3 looked bigger than the others for probably around a few weeks then i just kept pulling and cracking till it got back to looking normal. Again, cant fully crack it like the other 7 tho without feeling slight pain
I had a similar injury but on three of my fingers on my right hand. My grandmother threw up when she saw it.
i have this with my pinky it’s still never healed how it’s supposed to with some curving even when i extend it fully
Doc, will it heal with just an extension brace or is surgery needed to repair tendon before bracing?
they x ray the injury to see if the tendon came off with a little bit of bone attached to it, if bone came off, they need surgery, if no bone, just 8 to 12 weeks of keeping your finger straight 24/7
I think I have that on my pinky too q smaller degree... never got it treated. Now it looks crooked
Corey Anderson has this issue as well.
Noticed the pinky in the anatomy pic doesn't have tendon bands, does the pip in the pinky goes through the same ordeal if it happened or is it just bones?
I have a pinky finger that’s like this relatively speaking. It never came back to fully straight. From jamming my finger playing basketball never got it looked at cause it’s not terrible and on my pinky so
When I played football I had to have a pin put in my finger to play a game. It hurt very much when I hit my cast
I just made a recovery over that injury LoL therapy helped alot!!
Had this sane injury on my left ring finger, it sucked but it wasn't as bad as the other injuries I've had.
I got this exact injury when i was playing basketball as a kid, in my little finger though. Hurt for ages and remains deformed, but doesn't hurt.
can you bend it all the way, can you even fight with it?
@@axz647 Yep, you can bend it in all the way, just not straighten. I'm not a fighter, but this injury would not stop you in those types of sports.
I had my dip crushed into my pip
Had my friend yank it out immediately
Hurt like hell and my pip was still that wide and I had to keep yanking on my finger for months to get it all the way out
So that's what is. I've had 2 boutonniere deformities on my dominant hand playing basketball about 12 years ago, it typically went away after a few days/weeks
I had this and it hurt for months and since i didn't get a brace in time it remained deformed. In the end a surgeon said it was too risk to try to fix. You prob just had swelling in the join from a sprained finger - that can last weeks too but is very different.
Thank you from a layman.
He'll be alright I had that injury when I was 10.
I have a less severe version of this injury with my pinky resulting in it being slightly curved. The injury happened over a year ago and I still can't straighten it out. I wonder if it's too late for me to fix it.
Same with me but approx 2 years haha. Mine looks like a beluga whale. Wonder what we can do with chronic injuries like this
I as well about 4 months ago while going for a rebound it healed well but still not 100% there
Sameee
Same for me it’s been 9 years just get used to it bro 😅
@@bm9tube lol
having had a bouteneers deformity, this sucks
Ouch
Hmm so I tore a tendon in my toe? It’s bent down and now arter many years bent down 😮
Get well soon J.C.HAWKNATION🏀🏆🎗
Can it be fixed after healing the wrong way?
I got something similar happen to my only finger caused by a football being kicked at it.
I dislocated both my pinky fingers years ago and they exhibit this kind of deformity, but not too bad. I can still type this comment without a problem, but both hands are weak now. I used to be able to palm a basketball. I guess surgery at this point wouldn't do any good.
That’s crazy
His poor lil fingoi blew up 😢
So basically it's like a mallet finger but at the proximal joint instead of the distal joint. Is that correct? I had a mallet finger and had to keep it splinted for 8 weeks. But I made a full recovery. I got my full extension back.
3:18 I guess I was right!!
Did Danny geeen have the same thing?
I have the same injury on my pinky finger.
My pinky finger is just like that injured it playing ball as a kid and thought it was jammed still works the same tho
Finger look like the last piece of crazy bread🤣
This happened to my middle finger where I cannot shoot now. It happened Feb 1 and 6 weeks later it is still stiff. MRI revealed a slight tear but no surgery required, then at the top joint towards my nail, it's bent down. Now I can't bend either joint without discomfort. Should I get a second opinion? Can it be swollen after 6 weeks?
yea, swelling stays for many weeks after a ruptured tendon, it takes about 8 to 12 weeks of keeping the finger straight to fix itself
Oh shit my gf has the same injury right now that's crazy
His hand looks like a video game boss
Why dude got the hand of a 500 year old monk???
Lol he just ashy. Maybe exfoliating wouldn’t hurt either.
What does a surgeon put up before scoring a touchdown? The caduceus!
That whole finger pregnant 💀
I believe calvin johnson from the Detroit Lions , formerly known as Megatron suffered the same injury aswell from many years catching the football in a weird way , he spoke about it on a podcast.
Doc. My finger won't heal. It is still swolen after 2 months.
That looks awful!
I thought the thumbnail was photoshopped...
Pip Hol it down 😂😂😂😂
Why am I watching this? I have no insurance and this would cost me $10,000 dollars for surgery In nyc. I pray to God it heals naturally.
Oh my will he need surgery?