I've floated in between low gm and t500 for a few years now (masters this season, but let's not talk about it). This is the most accurate and helpful summary I've ever seen on how to rank up. I'd endorse basically every word of it. One thing I'd add, which you briefly touched on, is to play difficult heroes. Moira, Mercy, and Lifeweaver are heroes that make you hardstuck. While Tracer, Genji, Dva, or Zenyatta would be ideal, even someone like Mei or Ana forces you to aim a lot. In addition to that, a mistake a lot of bad players make is just blasting the tank all game, whether it be damage, heals, cooldowns, or ults. Start shooting at and fighting with squishies. Someone who goes from being a healbot Moira to an Ana who does 60% healing and 40% damage to enemy squishies will see their progression rate ramp up. Even if Moira is your calling, fade to different parts of the fight and try to duel the dps. This will force you to learn movement, cooldown tracking, cover usage, map knowledge etc. Just don't play like a healbot or tank shooter and you will get better.
Aww but I like being a healbot :(.. I'm really good at it :P however, my tracking is awful which is holding me back. I've been a Mercy main since day1 but terrible with her weapon. Until they came out with Lifeweaver! His kit sort of clicks with me and I can actually finish people off. His reload time and heal ramp up though feels rough. Is he played in top tier? I haven't done much research yet on him, just putting in the manual labor hours in learning to optimize him, though if he's not as good as I think, maybe I'm wasting my time?
@@ElectrifyMySoull Lifeweaver is kinda in a weird spot, but I'd say he's at least better than Mercy for most situations if you're set on healbotting. If you can get good with his pulls and platform then he definitely has more value than a Mercy. He is a lot more reflex based imo. I just see way too many Lifeweavers waste their pulls or put their teammates in unfavorable positions or not take advantage of the platform to mitigate some enemy ultimates. That being said, a lot of Mercy players tend to have an easier time with Moira, so I'd try her if you'd like, at the very least you'll get a feel for balancing damage and healing.
that's my philosophy for rocket league too. once you fill up both buckets of mental skill and mechanical skill, you rank up and get bigger buckets, but both need to be full.
my tip for gold - plat is just to be really aggressive. In gold or plat most players like to play brawl or more slow poke strats. So when you go dive theyr not expecting it and you will roll the first fight. Then they will start to panick swap and u win. This worked for me and i am now in gm
It can be an issue to be aggressive too. I was mid-plat and because of a hard lose streak I fell to gold 4. And now I'm a little stuck there (even if I managed to climb to gold 1-2) but the thing is, if I play as aggressive as when I was playing with plat players, my team often doesn't follow or are just too slow to react.
I’m in silver one and i was at 93% and i got people with negativity and bad mental. The best way to climb is to put in a lot of time in and be positive. As long as YOU are a consistently good player you are garunnteed to have above a 51% winrate
If you have the mechanical skill you can definitely do that. Just having decent aim and movement from any other fps will get you to plat or higher in one evening.
@@organicallyhannah this is so real. I have been playing wiston only on comp, and I am currently on Plat 4, People think the tank should be the one to do everything. But if you have bad DPS or Sups, then it will be extremely hard to win a game. Trying to reach masters with him.
"feeding" means doing something that makes you REALLY easy to kill (like going out in the open,ignoring the enemy team or just straight up running at the enemy team alone) "staggering" trying to run away and dying a long time after your team died resulting in you respawning last if your whole team is dead just try to die as quickly as possible in any way so you are groupped up after you all respawn (this does not have to be done with heroes with REALLY good mobility like tracer or sombra since her stealth is a free getaway) so you don't die again while trying to get back to your team honestly people should try to explain what ov2 slang means to newer players you can't expect them to instantly know what you mean oh and if ur trying to get better don't put too much focus on aiming the longer you play the better it'll get most of the top 500 players or popular content creators have thousands of hours on the game I've never used aimlabs or any kinds of aim trainers and still managed to get to diamond in a year by practice alone (I played mainly echo so I had to at least understand all the heroes dx)
Feeding is any kind of free ult charge for the enemy. The ways you listed but also. Going up to a corner or high ground and spamming damage while your team is trying to regroup. You see this a lot in lower ranks. They don't realize that they are just charging there enemy healer ults and possibly the enemy tanks ult. While you are also making your self an easy target or at the very least revealing your location. Even worse is if you call them out on it, they point out their damage stat. Mean while being completely oblivious to the fact that you are calling them out for the trash damage they were just doing making their damage stat an unreliable metric as you have no way of telling how much of that damage is actually meaningful.
Personally I’m a silver overwatch player and I Like to ask myself what is happening to me and my position, then ask myself what has changed about the overall team fight and finally I ask myself what can I do to deal more damage, get more healing, take and/or gain more space. Overall I main dva and used this technique and went from silver 4 to 1 and I’m also working on my dives because that’s the meta, if you are seeing this please reply and like and I hope I helped some people.
If you're casual I say it's fine to think like that because you won't spend a lot of time on the game. However if you do want to be a little more sweaty and climb the easiest way is to just be more efficient and comfortable with your aim and communicate whatever it is you need in the comms while keeping your cool. Metal ranks are definitely more on the "I know this game more than you/I have a main in GM" type of vibe and can trigger a lot of people to rage. Just like any other team sport. You just need to be mechanically good, you don't necessarily need to know the meta or peel/dive/poke/etc. What you really need is to tell your team where you're going. Who is where and what ability you/them are going to use. Instead of "hey team let's run dive, please no Ana/Zen etc" because metal ranks typically aren't very good at being organized and team play. So most of the time that will just trigger them and made someone rage right at the start of the game. I know it's a long read... Doing shot calling isn't 100% going to work, but it's a good habit to get into and it will get easier the more you do it. If you're even more sweaty you will remember all the cool downs in the game and nail your ability timing, etc. That's really how I got to GM from metal ranks. It took me a while to realize, but I believe you certainly need to be very comfortable with your mouse and keyboard before you can climb. Because people in Masters and GM will punish you for mistakes in an instant. This is something I wish I knew earlier because this game has levels to it more than other FPS games being how fast and confusing it's abilities are and insane healing/hp pool. Even Shroud was hard stuck diamond tells you if you aim well you will climb, but you will peak if you don't communicate about cool downs and timing etc.
Eva can play against every take with exception of Zara in less u bait bubbles and rein if u fight ram kill supports first or out of position people same as with sig and orissa if u fight hog mauga junk q free sr good luck !
For awhile I felt if I wanted to rank up, I had to counter pick. But every time I did that I wasn't having fun and I wasn't improving with the characters I like to use. I knew what my problem was but I couldn't quite describe it. Thank you for putting it into words. Now I will tell anyone who asks me to swap to pound sand :P
His chat about transferable role skills is actually so true. I main support, have done since Ana got released way back when. When I play tank specifically I play with my support line in mind and position myself perfectly for them to support me and that in itself made me rank up incredibly fast on tank (which I only play with friends cause my support rank is too high to group, or now the queues are far too long in season 10). On DPS I play around my supports and protect them as much as I can.
I peaked platinum with doomfist and genji should i try exploring new characters because i know i could climb way more with them or stick with doom and genj
this came out just in time, i have been having a rough time this season, i went from being high plat/low diamond to now being gold 3 on both support and dps, and i have been going insane trying to figure out what could have changed from last season to this season
Its a mix of not getting much sr for a win so former gm 1 t500 players are stuck between masters and mid gm and some masters players are still in plat if they havent played much and they also rank up a lot slower because of the gm players and they basically play against other former masters players but with the plat icon. I was mid-low masters last season and I had to start high plat and am still diamond 3 right now. I always get 18-19% for a win no matter if expected or nothing only sometimes i get 21% for a hard fight or after 5 wins in a row I maybe get 20% but I always loose between -20 to -23% for a loss. (Also expected win/loss is sometimes just random) So If I go 50/50 I will actually rank down and not stay the same rank. Thats why its so damn slow even when you are about 60% win rate.
@andirmiga I struggle with all of that stuff, too. If I win, it's between 6 and 20%(often get expected when its a tough fairly competitive game), but any losses are easily between 10 to 40% or so. Even brief win streaks barely budge the meter towards the next rank, but any losses heavily alter it. Feels like if i was to lose 5 in a row, then that would be a rank easily gone, but if I won 5 in a row? Maybe halfway to the next rank if lucky. Even if I go 50 50 or 2 and 1 it feels like I still go backwards more than forwards sadly.
Mechanics is a huge component of the game especially in low elo as players will not peal or heal unless things are right in front of them and people completely disregard the health bar so you'll commonly get low health people aggressing on you instead of backing away.
When would be a good time to jump into comp? I win most of my Quick Play Games and can go quite a few of those without dying. I'm a Support playing mainly Lifeweaver and Moria. Still get shouted at when I get an awful Tank but I guess that's just the life of a Support Main lol.
Is there anything I can do about people purposely throwing and the enemy team being decent? Like if someone on my team is trying to lower their rank or whatever reason they have for throwing and the enemy is also decent. Also if there's any tips for how to hard carry on ana I'd appreciate it
So, i'd say my hero pool is a good enough size, but i feel like i tend to focus on just one archetype so i end up with a weird hero pool. What should i do? By that i mean, i can't play dive tanks at all except a little winston or dva on dorado if i feel confident for example. My support hero pool is ana zen and moira, and both ana and zen are these high impact supports but without any mobility which could mean i'm forced to only play moira if i want to survive a sombra or tracer consistently. And only playing moira won't get me too far because people will have a much easier time punishing me higher up in ranks.
To me it seems like what is key is understanding which aspect you need to improve. Bcs it's not all the same. Usually mechanics come before game sense. And mechanics alone can get you far, at least to plat. But then you hit a brick wall. Suddenly enemies are just capable enough to not let you destroy them just like that. Now you have to start working on other aspects, like consistency, playing as the underdog, target prioritization, etc. Bcs you could literally be in plat and have gm mechanics but not climb, if you're lacking some other key aspect and your awareness is bad.
you are bronze for reasons like: being toxic,getting triggered by your team,not noticing your mistakes or thinking you are a god that shoudn't be in your rank someone that's bronze should not have that much ego man
In the diamond section Coach Mills said diamond players need to realize who's getting value. How do you figure that out in a game? I've struggled with that issue lately and playing tank it feels impossible to figure that out unless I'm watching a replay because I only look behind me before the fight starts most of the time. Is the secret in tracking where all 5 enemies are? I don't know how to do that when there's an enemy Sombra because she's always invisible until she's in my backline. I try to listen for her but sometimes the game is loud or I'm focusing on killing the enemies too much to concern myself with flankers.
I did all this naturally as i learned the game to get better,but the truth is you have to be diamond level to rank up on any rank, in that i mean ur mechanics and game sense have to ne enough to solo the lobby cause ur teammates arent doing anything, and i mean that people just dont play the game.Example: so many morias just fade for no reason and dont use heal orb even on themselves. Even as a support u have to do this, i couldnt get out of bronze until i learned solo the lobby as moria even with throwers. THE problem is that its like this for every rank but lower ranks is harder cause there just worse. [THIS IS MEANT FOR SOLO Q] if your in a group i dont know how u lose if ur been playing the game for a long time.
uh dude it isn't "harder for low ranks" if you have people that are having bad days,lag or anything really makes the already good players kill you faster than some reaper shooting you from longer range you need to learn how to work with your team even if they're shit if you can use them as a meatshield or a distraction that's a huge advantage and yeah if your moiras "don't use heal orb" just use the healthpacks or wait a sec for health regen? I mean it's not that hard honestly the update was really good for us
@@engineergaming3830 AGAIN I naturally came to that same advice, I play Tracer, so i dont use up team resources, so why does my team die still? Because ur teammates DONT WANT TO WIN. I literally mean that they dont do anything, they will purposley not Heal, use abilities/ults, or not take cover no matter the role.You can can carry a team of 4 bad players, You cannot carry a 4v5 starting at least higher silver, even top 500 struggle with this. If YOU are someone u can do this, congrats not only are u Gods gift to Overwatch, but ur aslo not supposed to be there anyways as u have the expierence to do that, BUT even then thats not the real issue. The REAL issue is that people use bronze accounts to sell to others or they want to stay bronze cause they dont want to rank up, so they throw on purpose. YOU ARE PLAYING WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LOSE, EVEN IF U DONT WANT TO ACHIEVE A HIGH RANK, YOU WILL NOT BE PLAYING OVERWATCH AS INTENDED, ITS JUST NOT FUN. And ye the rank system did help a bit as you can rank up consistenly again as before u had to have like 3 win streaks of 5 to rank up
For some reason its realy hard for me to stick to a character, like ive played alot on bastion but then swtiched to ana, and then just went nuts trying every single character. I dont know how stick to one character cause it gets boring
Metal ranks: people stand out in the open too much. Choose an Omnic hero to maximize value when people don't use map cover. Maybe go Winston when the opposing team is too aggressive to group up. Diamond and above: use map cover to ensure your supports can do damage; have a game plan in mind before choosing your tank; keep your Sigma skills sharp to shorten your comp games.
The gold advice was my problem on DPS, I always switch off of honzo but I wanted to play him. Finally stop doing that couple seasons ago and now I’m diamond
I’ve started to sit back with Winston and dive on low targets to goomba stomp them and finish them off when I have a lot of counters to play against. If I have no counters I just decimate the team until they switch.
How do I improve my mechanical skills? Im a flex player, and can use most heroes very well. My tracking is good, just not up to a Masters player, and my game sense has become better. I think the only reason I am stuck is due to my mechanical skill. But... how do I improve. I have 900 hrs on the game...
I have a specific question about the advice you around minimizing characters. What happens when the hero’s me play aren’t meta? I play zen and mercy most, but it felt like people were really getting annoyed about me picking zen recently so I was trying to learn other supports. Same with mercy not being as good recently in peoples minds (although I have been able to get 12k heals on her, so it is confusing).
never pay attention to stats if you're looking to rank up, also, mercy isn't a very good support to climb with since she relies on her team instead of having individual impact. what'll have more impact, a mercy damage boosting a soldier missing all their shots, or landing an anti nade on the whole enemy team and sleeping the ulting genji. you should play more supports with carry potential like ana/bap/kiri to remove any potential of your team holding you back. Zen is a pretty good pick, but something i see a lot of low rank players do is just forget about their healing orb. you NEED to have it on someone 24/7, and you NEED to constantly be damaging to make up for your lack of heals. you're also playing a projectile hero, so you don't need to get up in their face to do damage, because you'll do the same amount from 30 meters away
Very informative video. Im plat 3-4 and only play 6-8 games a week. There are many scenarios I don’t know how to play. I think diamond is reachable and enjoy the slow grind atm.
i am stuck in bronze! i have fast reaction speed, good settings, and good gamesense. im not perfect, but i deserve at least high silver to gold, BUT! i genuinely and seriously have such horrible luck when it comes to teammates. today alone i had multiple throwers and leavers in VERY winnable games. even if i am not perfect, ive been playing since 2019 and i understand how to play the game properly but i am stuck with people who dont get any of it. so frustrating 😭
Bronze support won't get out of bronze until they fix the troll lobby trolls. It's 1 in 2 matches now where someone is doing 28 to 30k damage and 50 elims. If on support and you're on a winning streak, the game will see if you can "carry" where you're the best player on your side. Well if you're a mercy or lw main than you are just seriously postponing the inevitable loss as the surf builds ult and then wipes out your team
I went silver 3 with mercy after not playing for 4 months. Its not impossible but I have been winning more games doing what these videos say. I use ping and am concentrating using a few supports.
I am genuinely asking for anyone who knows this. I have been playing OW since 2019 and i got placed in bronze in 2019 because I just never really played ranked like that, but now that I do want to grind ranked, my mmr is so abysmal its baffling. I get 8-13 percent gains and 9-12 percent losses. I am only about 30 matches into ranked this season, so why am I already in elo hell? my friends who I almost exclusively play with also have old accs that were low ranked and they have the same amount of games as me, yet they get 70+ gains, and 20 losses. WHAT DO I DO. I've been debating making a new account, should I? These number are really making me not want to grind ranked
if im a healer and i play moira and lucio, but my team asks for a mercy, should i stay on the healer i know im good at? is my hero pool too small? should i just switch for synergy purpose?
It all depends on the situation your team is in. If your team is in need of more damage, then you can switch to Mercy to buff your tank and dps. In my opinion, I feel it important for support mains to know the basics of Mercy since the amount of scenarios she can be valuable is higher than both Lucio and Moira based off of her kit since she has rez, high mobility, the ability to poke (dmg from afar or picking off low health players from afar), damage buff, and good heals.
@@thegamingillustrator oh I get you man sometimes I get ping issues for no reason and I just fly around the entire map xd (though you can kinda guess where ur going based on hero speed since you don't actually move back) but that's about what you can do during it
People really need to internalize the plat advice. Team game, play as a team, also know the status of your team, don’t ult into a losing team fight, pick your battles
The tip with sticking to one hero is pretty damn important for Overwatch 2, you wouldn't really expect it but there are 28 maps right now in OW2, if you play 15 different champs, you need 420 (lol) games, just so you played each champ on all maps a single time, if you try to be someone who "mastered" every champ on all maps that would probably need like at least 200 games on each map which would leave you with 84000 games, have fun trying to play that many lol.
well I'm not him but during a comp game it's best to have 3 heroes that play diffrently like if your are going to get stuck playing circuit royale (a sniper map) and you are the only one on your team playing dive you propably won't have fun but if you also played a sniper you would actually be able to do a lot during the game or even a diffrent diver like sombra and just pick off the snipers easily obviously there are players that one tricked to high rank but it took them THOUSANDS of hours to achieve that level
Why am stuck, No matter how well I do I get stuck with awful ppl. Recently one match with an anna that had like 700 healing after 3 control maps or different team that we had a tank that only had 2k damage after 3 control maps
if you can't carry your team, you don't deserve to rank up, simple as that, and remember, on average, the enemy team gets the same amount of throwers as you do
on average, the enemy team will also have the same amount of "bots" on their team over multiple games, so it balances out to the point you are the significant factor in your ranked games
As a silver 1-gold 3 player I keep wondering why I’m not ranking up. My damage can be twice the tanks but I know I must be doing things majorly wrong. I’m just at a loss. I try to keep all of these things in mind and am constantly checking & telling people to fall back when they’re trying to 2v5 people. I’m tired of seeing my team try to be the “hero.” These ranks seem to be big on ego (based from insecurity). I find it so hard to navigate since I don’t have friends to que with. I’m welcome to feedback comments (please keep in mind i’ve been playing since it came out and it’s my favorite game, and have watched countless videos and streams).
welp, as a masters tank player who had to play through silver dps after I did shit on my placements (currently diamond in dps), it's entirely possible. remember, YOU have to be the carry for your team, there's clearly something you're doing in your metal rank games that people in diamond+ aren't, whether it be cd wasting, terrible positioning, bad timing, bad awareness of ults, etc. (also, never ever pay attention to stats when you're trying to rank up, they mean next to nothing in the overall picture)
I rlly want to get to silver in the game but i cant even afford an actual gaming computer and i gotta use a laptop with a notebook as my "mousepad", I also can only play on 2 stacked bins bc i dont have a table 😭
Facts about silver. Admittedly I’m very inconsistent with execution, but I lose a lot of matches unnecessarily due to lack of fundamental understanding from other players: Don’t group up, try to 1 v 5, pop Ults for no reason, over extending, don’t use cover, don’t retreat when at a disadvantage. I’m gonna try the advice of lowering my character pool and working on mechanical skills more to start.
Focus on gamesense more than your mechanical skill it will get better with time and stop focusing on your team but yourself if you are mad or distracted by your team you ain't gonna do as well as u could
@@engineergaming3830 I feel like I have some game sense, I’ve been playing since OW1 at gold rank. It wasn’t until recently I’ve been stuck in silver and can’t get out. It’s hard (for me at least) as a support main to carry. I say mechanical skill because then I can solidify kills by landing crits more consistently instead of relying on dps to. When you spend most of your resources pumping into your team to keep them alive because they absorb so much damage I can’t help with dealing damage, or your constantly healing but nobody is killing anything, it’s just a vicious cycle at that point. I’m open to any pointers with that because currently I’m at a lost.
Currently kinda stuck plat 5/gold 1 territory. I always have the least deaths, i always die last in fights and i do have a pretty good understanding of comps and fight tactics in ow. The problem is, i play junkrat… I could quite easily climb out if i just played soujurn, but i cant bring myself to do it. I carry, and as long as i get 2-3 kills BEFORE any of my teammates die EVERY fight, we win. But staying that consistent as junkrat is pretty hard. Especially when you’re teammates are screaming at you for playing junkrat even though they’re 2-10 and youre 20-3. Also, yes its a hard life, especially when echo exists. And i will admit my execution of thought out plays is prob my weakest point. And if i just played the game more id be a higher rank. I have played on diamond level before
Okay, @Coach_Mills , but I have some questions. If the reasons for Silver not rising are related to them feeding, not knowing how to retreat... and among other things that are a lack of game knowledge... How can players with more than 2,000 hours of gameplay, or even more than that, remain stuck on the silver like that? Would it be considered some type of learning disability for players? stubbornness? bad habits? why look closely. It is scientifically proven that if a person has 10 thousand hours of theoretical and practical knowledge in a certain subject or something, they become a specialist in that area. 2 thousand hours is 1/5 of that, it's enough knowledge to be trivialized and considered something as superficial as feeding or not knowing how to retreat... So why are there players with so much time spent on the game, stuck together with the other 66% of players, who are currently stuck in the silver, since the Rank update? And I still question: How do you explain gold or even platinum players, who make exactly the same mistakes you listed about silver players in your video and move up easily and are in these higher ranks and even with less playing time or a smaller hero pool? ?
They Play the same way all the time get predictable and develop bad habits like being toxic for example the people that ranked up propably stopped making as many mayby they even watched a few guides with an open mind
10k hours is not "scientifically proven" to mean anything, this is literally just idiomatic nonsense, and 10k hours of blindly feeding with no self reflection or effort to improve compared to 100 hours of actively trying to improve are worlds apart.
When you say a better reaction time comes with time, it doesn't tell me anything. I am utterly brain dead and cannot think at a speed that would suggest I am a normal person. I am stuck because I cannot think quickly, I subconsciously mute out important things, my kbm configuration makes my hands uncomfortable, and I cannot think of how to better my aim. I don't notice what my sens or dpi are while I am in the middle of the game, but I am not good. I don't know what to start out with first. I have been playing since Ana came out, but I am still terrible.
I have like 1200 hours in Overwatch. But I only have like 500 hours on comp. I think I have some game sense. When I play ranked I am in gold. I think I just have to play more
I downloaded this game again and after being placed in silver something I went on a winstreak to gold 1 and was sure I was gonna reach plat, after the winstreak ended I went quickly down to silver/gold and Im now stuck here. I dont get how I as a new player could go on a WS to almost plat and now border to silver Edit: after watching this video I somehow went on a winstreak againXD
@@engineergaming3830 unless you are playing tank, it is the teammates fault sometimes tho. cus if you are a support main, and your tank is either playing backline support, or straight up feeding by standing in the open with a discord orb on them, or running in 1v5 and dying in 3 seconds, and your dps left, and the other dps runs in 1v5, because they dont know how to group up, then it is literally impossible to win. because even if you are a top 500 smurf, you literally cannot contest for 4 whole minutes, when you are on support and the enemy team on mauga, phara, bastion, zen and kiri. and even if you live, once you get a payload map ur fucked. cus how are you gonna win a 1v5 on support, while also contesting?
@@minuwasfish uhh even a plat support can mop the floor with bronze lobbies also support is literally one of the best roles to play solo as you get a ton of survivability,self healing and dmg again not ALL of your games are gonna be like that if you are better than them you will rank up blaming others for your inability to learn from your mistakes and sticking to bad habits is what keeps you there
Thank you very much! A lot of people should look more from a third person perspective and analyze their gameplay! This is also a fundamental YOU taught me! Focus more on your gameplay, in which areas can you improve, how can you improve?
All I want is for my allies to be worth focusing. Way too easy for most of the enemies to ignore everyone else, dive me, I have to swap or get really creative, then get blamed for the loss even though a tank or support could have done the bare minimum and gotten me out of being focused so hard.
@@Xiatteryeah playing solo is a pain just try to learn how to Play with your team it's hard to get teammates that will work with you on low ranks and yeah you should swap on those situations you shoudn't expect to Play what you like all the time
i recommend getting good at soldier and just start harassing the enemy supports by distracting them. A soldier existing in the backline surprisingly makes a lot of space for your team.
Not Mills, though I have some small experience in my portfolio: Without knowing a ton about your style and skill set, and taking into consideration potential nerfs and buffs, I would recommend considering another dps hero that has more consistent damage. Pharah has good burst and works in pretty much all ranks to similar effect assuming similar skill levels. Sometimes though, what your team needs, and what will cause the opposing team to falter, is consistent pressure. Potential heroes: 76, Cassidy, Ashe, and potentially Sojourn. It's important to remember that while having high ground is important, it does place your team below at a disadvantage in some situations. UNLESS you are putting in enough damage, or securing kills, as Pharah, a swap like this can help ease that weight.
@@xaniso6955 I appreciate the reply! I honestly find hitscan so much less fun, but I was thinking that was probably the best option for games where pharah isn't working
i was low masters high dimond on dps now i am plat 4 and i win 2 times and i get for each like 20% then when i lose i lose 45% and i dont know wtf do i do wrong. My team is usuly good moast of them was in master/dimond plyers and i am claming in suport and i it is the same as in dps but i dont know why i am deranking
" maybe they dont play that much a week maybe 20-30 hours" like damn, thats more than enough.. I was plat and when i played like once or twice a week and dont have good mechanical skills at all. i still dont know where all the health packs are or best/worst counters. If you just have commonsense or situational awareness, you can do alot. Honestly think thats peoples biggest problem. Not seeing the bigger picture or thinking a few steps ahead
im plat on dps n super close to plat on tank yet on support Ive played 4 placement games its predicting bronze 2 and I havent won a single one of them I think the problem will go away with just playing a couple more games but definetly Im not 1vs5 the lobbies
One thing I want to mention to you all that halfway in I haven't heard: If you want to rank up, you have to play consistently as a player in that rank, not just a great player in your rank. The best Gold player is still a Gold player.
Yea, I’ve only peaked Diamond like 7x different times now. Currently season diamond still, I’m a Tank/Dps flex ish player. I can beat master to GM players and sometimes top 500’s, but how can you climb to masters?
I think many people mistake Top 500 for being a separate rank. Sure, it displays as one, but it's actually a rank range, ranging from Diamond to Champion, so you might be playing with a player of your own skill level.
@@ciach0_ it really depends honestly say I win like 4 to 5 games back to back, then the match maker auto joins top player brackets. Rather than losing said 4 to 5 matches,then it’s all bronze 5 players or legit silver matches.
@coach_mills I'm not gonna lie I am in gold but I kept running into people who were smurfs or hackers and they had gamertags like popcorn, pickles, cheese, notsmurfin, icantaim, notwidowmaker. They always have default skins but yet their aim is absolutely flawless. So I was put back down to silver. And yes I can confirm 4:30 these silver players don't utilize plays and I found myself telling them what to do and was the only reason it put me back to gold😂
honestly I recommend you don't tell people what to do but just ask them some people might not take what you said kindly and think you made fun of them or smth trust me I know from experience (I'm diamond) but yeah good job on getting to gold you are getting close to the majority of players!
@@engineergaming3830Yeah some people get offended and honestly i don't really like telling people what to do but some silver games there would be a 3v4 and no one would utilize. I'm never the type of player to tell others swap or diff I'm always the one to adjust to my team.
@@vchente27 the word diff is dumb like how do you base the diffrence on? if the enemy team has like a sombra winston and here you are sombra with orisa as your tank it's kinda obvious based on the team comp that the enemy sombra and tank will outperform yours but yeah being flexible is good even if ur not "good" at a hero if that's what your team REALLY needs being the guy to do it is the right thing to do even if ur not gonna get that many kills
Atleast for support how to climb from bronze to gold is this. Pick lucio stand behind tank hold heal and shoot at the enemy. No wall riding no fancy nonsense just stand basically still shoot and heal. You climb out very fast. For dps pick torb do the same thing. Tank I don't have an answer there isn't any afk tanks to play. I did it as an experiment on a friend's account that was bronze.
player performance is based on many factors like: the map,if your on attack or defence,what heroes do they have,what heroes does your team have,are your teammates trying to work together,is the enemy team working well together,are your teammates getting heals,are they using ults and abilities correctly etc.. it's not just skill
Bronze - 00:22
Silver - 03:50
Gold - 09:23
Platinum - 11:55
Diamond - 14:52
Masters - 19:00
Grandmaster - 21:35
Ty
Thanks Brodie!
Thank you
Was gonna say. Timestamps should be there
Thank you! ❤
I've floated in between low gm and t500 for a few years now (masters this season, but let's not talk about it). This is the most accurate and helpful summary I've ever seen on how to rank up. I'd endorse basically every word of it. One thing I'd add, which you briefly touched on, is to play difficult heroes. Moira, Mercy, and Lifeweaver are heroes that make you hardstuck. While Tracer, Genji, Dva, or Zenyatta would be ideal, even someone like Mei or Ana forces you to aim a lot.
In addition to that, a mistake a lot of bad players make is just blasting the tank all game, whether it be damage, heals, cooldowns, or ults. Start shooting at and fighting with squishies. Someone who goes from being a healbot Moira to an Ana who does 60% healing and 40% damage to enemy squishies will see their progression rate ramp up. Even if Moira is your calling, fade to different parts of the fight and try to duel the dps. This will force you to learn movement, cooldown tracking, cover usage, map knowledge etc. Just don't play like a healbot or tank shooter and you will get better.
Aww but I like being a healbot :(.. I'm really good at it :P however, my tracking is awful which is holding me back. I've been a Mercy main since day1 but terrible with her weapon. Until they came out with Lifeweaver! His kit sort of clicks with me and I can actually finish people off. His reload time and heal ramp up though feels rough. Is he played in top tier? I haven't done much research yet on him, just putting in the manual labor hours in learning to optimize him, though if he's not as good as I think, maybe I'm wasting my time?
@@ElectrifyMySoull Lifeweaver is kinda in a weird spot, but I'd say he's at least better than Mercy for most situations if you're set on healbotting. If you can get good with his pulls and platform then he definitely has more value than a Mercy. He is a lot more reflex based imo. I just see way too many Lifeweavers waste their pulls or put their teammates in unfavorable positions or not take advantage of the platform to mitigate some enemy ultimates. That being said, a lot of Mercy players tend to have an easier time with Moira, so I'd try her if you'd like, at the very least you'll get a feel for balancing damage and healing.
I'm ashamed to say Moria is my calling
I think Moira is my calling I average 10k heals/ 8k damage per 10 mins
dang, this really is one of the best, most comprehensive guides i've seen, esp being under 25min. Nice stuff Mills.
I really appreciate how you broke down mechanical skill vs. pure game sense.
that's my philosophy for rocket league too. once you fill up both buckets of mental skill and mechanical skill, you rank up and get bigger buckets, but both need to be full.
my tip for gold - plat is just to be really aggressive. In gold or plat most players like to play brawl or more slow poke strats. So when you go dive theyr not expecting it and you will roll the first fight. Then they will start to panick swap and u win. This worked for me and i am now in gm
This is so true, I'm stuck in gold 1 and anytime a good ball,Winston,Sombra is in the match the whole team scrambles.
It can be an issue to be aggressive too. I was mid-plat and because of a hard lose streak I fell to gold 4. And now I'm a little stuck there (even if I managed to climb to gold 1-2) but the thing is, if I play as aggressive as when I was playing with plat players, my team often doesn't follow or are just too slow to react.
@@hidden-senpai I got to gm in like 1 month from just playing aggresive with winton
I’m in silver one and i was at 93% and i got people with negativity and bad mental. The best way to climb is to put in a lot of time in and be positive. As long as YOU are a consistently good player you are garunnteed to have above a 51% winrate
If you have the mechanical skill you can definitely do that. Just having decent aim and movement from any other fps will get you to plat or higher in one evening.
Need timestamps
09:23 for gold 👍
Bronze is at the beginning bro
There are timestamps. Dummy.
@@purehearted7249 thank u
@JohnIvoryMusic We're all just here to learn mate be nice. Even Mills agrees bc he pinned a comment with the timestamps.
I’ve been needing this for a while now while playing support I’ve been stuck in silver and this is helping a lot ❤
woah, I didn't realize how fresh this video is
16:39 wish my teammates would realize this before saying "tank trash 🤓"
Playing tank in silver or gold means you might as well disable chat 😭 They all want to be carried
@@organicallyhannah this is so real. I have been playing wiston only on comp, and I am currently on Plat 4, People think the tank should be the one to do everything. But if you have bad DPS or Sups, then it will be extremely hard to win a game. Trying to reach masters with him.
"feeding" means doing something that makes you REALLY easy to kill (like going out in the open,ignoring the enemy team or just straight up running at the enemy team alone) "staggering" trying to run away and dying a long time after your team died resulting in you respawning last if your whole team is dead just try to die as quickly as possible in any way so you are groupped up after you all respawn (this does not have to be done with heroes with REALLY good mobility like tracer or sombra since her stealth is a free getaway) so you don't die again while trying to get back to your team honestly people should try to explain what ov2 slang means to newer players you can't expect them to instantly know what you mean oh and if ur trying to get better don't put too much focus on aiming the longer you play the better it'll get most of the top 500 players or popular content creators have thousands of hours on the game I've never used aimlabs or any kinds of aim trainers and still managed to get to diamond in a year by practice alone (I played mainly echo so I had to at least understand all the heroes dx)
feeding means giving the enemy team free ult charge by being an easy target
@@ciach0_ yeah all that I listed was that you can't be too general with people that forget you exist just because you ran behind a corner
Feeding is any kind of free ult charge for the enemy. The ways you listed but also. Going up to a corner or high ground and spamming damage while your team is trying to regroup. You see this a lot in lower ranks. They don't realize that they are just charging there enemy healer ults and possibly the enemy tanks ult. While you are also making your self an easy target or at the very least revealing your location.
Even worse is if you call them out on it, they point out their damage stat. Mean while being completely oblivious to the fact that you are calling them out for the trash damage they were just doing making their damage stat an unreliable metric as you have no way of telling how much of that damage is actually meaningful.
Personally I’m a silver overwatch player and I Like to ask myself what is happening to me and my position, then ask myself what has changed about the overall team fight and finally I ask myself what can I do to deal more damage, get more healing, take and/or gain more space. Overall I main dva and used this technique and went from silver 4 to 1 and I’m also working on my dives because that’s the meta, if you are seeing this please reply and like and I hope I helped some people.
Well said ! in addition the thing i need improvement in is tracking my team positions and deaths
If you're casual I say it's fine to think like that because you won't spend a lot of time on the game.
However if you do want to be a little more sweaty and climb the easiest way is to just be more efficient and comfortable with your aim and communicate whatever it is you need in the comms while keeping your cool.
Metal ranks are definitely more on the "I know this game more than you/I have a main in GM" type of vibe and can trigger a lot of people to rage.
Just like any other team sport. You just need to be mechanically good, you don't necessarily need to know the meta or peel/dive/poke/etc. What you really need is to tell your team where you're going. Who is where and what ability you/them are going to use. Instead of "hey team let's run dive, please no Ana/Zen etc" because metal ranks typically aren't very good at being organized and team play. So most of the time that will just trigger them and made someone rage right at the start of the game.
I know it's a long read... Doing shot calling isn't 100% going to work, but it's a good habit to get into and it will get easier the more you do it. If you're even more sweaty you will remember all the cool downs in the game and nail your ability timing, etc. That's really how I got to GM from metal ranks. It took me a while to realize, but I believe you certainly need to be very comfortable with your mouse and keyboard before you can climb. Because people in Masters and GM will punish you for mistakes in an instant.
This is something I wish I knew earlier because this game has levels to it more than other FPS games being how fast and confusing it's abilities are and insane healing/hp pool. Even Shroud was hard stuck diamond tells you if you aim well you will climb, but you will peak if you don't communicate about cool downs and timing etc.
looking behind me to check where my team is as a tank player got me to plat quickly
As a plat player in silver you just have to pick a good tank and get a friend that’s a healer
Eva can play against every take with exception of Zara in less u bait bubbles and rein if u fight ram kill supports first or out of position people same as with sig and orissa if u fight hog mauga junk q free sr good luck !
Thanks for this video. The info was very helpful. New subscriber
For awhile I felt if I wanted to rank up, I had to counter pick. But every time I did that I wasn't having fun and I wasn't improving with the characters I like to use. I knew what my problem was but I couldn't quite describe it. Thank you for putting it into words. Now I will tell anyone who asks me to swap to pound sand :P
It got to where you were talking ab the amount of heroes played and I went from smile to oh God that's me😂
Hey Mills, great video, when are you going to have new slots open for coaching? Everything is listed as "Sold Out" currently.
His chat about transferable role skills is actually so true. I main support, have done since Ana got released way back when. When I play tank specifically I play with my support line in mind and position myself perfectly for them to support me and that in itself made me rank up incredibly fast on tank (which I only play with friends cause my support rank is too high to group, or now the queues are far too long in season 10). On DPS I play around my supports and protect them as much as I can.
6:08 whoah there coach 😂
He knows what hes doing
Not funny at all 😐
Lmao
Coach Mills my glorious king again with the education
I peaked platinum with doomfist and genji should i try exploring new characters because i know i could climb way more with them or stick with doom and genj
this came out just in time, i have been having a rough time this season, i went from being high plat/low diamond to now being gold 3 on both support and dps, and i have been going insane trying to figure out what could have changed from last season to this season
Its a mix of not getting much sr for a win so former gm 1 t500 players are stuck between masters and mid gm and some masters players are still in plat if they havent played much and they also rank up a lot slower because of the gm players and they basically play against other former masters players but with the plat icon. I was mid-low masters last season and I had to start high plat and am still diamond 3 right now. I always get 18-19% for a win no matter if expected or nothing only sometimes i get 21% for a hard fight or after 5 wins in a row I maybe get 20% but I always loose between -20 to -23% for a loss. (Also expected win/loss is sometimes just random) So If I go 50/50 I will actually rank down and not stay the same rank. Thats why its so damn slow even when you are about 60% win rate.
@andirmiga I struggle with all of that stuff, too. If I win, it's between 6 and 20%(often get expected when its a tough fairly competitive game), but any losses are easily between 10 to 40% or so. Even brief win streaks barely budge the meter towards the next rank, but any losses heavily alter it. Feels like if i was to lose 5 in a row, then that would be a rank easily gone, but if I won 5 in a row? Maybe halfway to the next rank if lucky. Even if I go 50 50 or 2 and 1 it feels like I still go backwards more than forwards sadly.
Mechanics is a huge component of the game especially in low elo as players will not peal or heal unless things are right in front of them and people completely disregard the health bar so you'll commonly get low health people aggressing on you instead of backing away.
650 hp Torb gives me flashbacks
When would be a good time to jump into comp? I win most of my Quick Play Games and can go quite a few of those without dying. I'm a Support playing mainly Lifeweaver and Moria. Still get shouted at when I get an awful Tank but I guess that's just the life of a Support Main lol.
Is there anything I can do about people purposely throwing and the enemy team being decent? Like if someone on my team is trying to lower their rank or whatever reason they have for throwing and the enemy is also decent. Also if there's any tips for how to hard carry on ana I'd appreciate it
So, i'd say my hero pool is a good enough size, but i feel like i tend to focus on just one archetype so i end up with a weird hero pool. What should i do? By that i mean, i can't play dive tanks at all except a little winston or dva on dorado if i feel confident for example. My support hero pool is ana zen and moira, and both ana and zen are these high impact supports but without any mobility which could mean i'm forced to only play moira if i want to survive a sombra or tracer consistently. And only playing moira won't get me too far because people will have a much easier time punishing me higher up in ranks.
To me it seems like what is key is understanding which aspect you need to improve. Bcs it's not all the same. Usually mechanics come before game sense. And mechanics alone can get you far, at least to plat. But then you hit a brick wall. Suddenly enemies are just capable enough to not let you destroy them just like that. Now you have to start working on other aspects, like consistency, playing as the underdog, target prioritization, etc. Bcs you could literally be in plat and have gm mechanics but not climb, if you're lacking some other key aspect and your awareness is bad.
Thank you lol been playing for about 4 months but have been stuck in gold for a month
Coach “can’t pull out” mills
The randoms you get on bronze is painful auto uninstall the game.
you are bronze for reasons like: being toxic,getting triggered by your team,not noticing your mistakes or thinking you are a god that shoudn't be in your rank someone that's bronze should not have that much ego man
In the diamond section Coach Mills said diamond players need to realize who's getting value. How do you figure that out in a game? I've struggled with that issue lately and playing tank it feels impossible to figure that out unless I'm watching a replay because I only look behind me before the fight starts most of the time. Is the secret in tracking where all 5 enemies are? I don't know how to do that when there's an enemy Sombra because she's always invisible until she's in my backline. I try to listen for her but sometimes the game is loud or I'm focusing on killing the enemies too much to concern myself with flankers.
i play on xbox with a series x controller. do these still apply to me?
Kaneshiros palace music W
I did all this naturally as i learned the game to get better,but the truth is you have to be diamond level to rank up on any rank, in that i mean ur mechanics and game sense have to ne enough to solo the lobby cause ur teammates arent doing anything, and i mean that people just dont play the game.Example: so many morias just fade for no reason and dont use heal orb even on themselves. Even as a support u have to do this, i couldnt get out of bronze until i learned solo the lobby as moria even with throwers. THE problem is that its like this for every rank but lower ranks is harder cause there just worse. [THIS IS MEANT FOR SOLO Q] if your in a group i dont know how u lose if ur been playing the game for a long time.
uh dude it isn't "harder for low ranks" if you have people that are having bad days,lag or anything really makes the already good players kill you faster than some reaper shooting you from longer range you need to learn how to work with your team even if they're shit if you can use them as a meatshield or a distraction that's a huge advantage and yeah if your moiras "don't use heal orb" just use the healthpacks or wait a sec for health regen? I mean it's not that hard honestly the update was really good for us
@@engineergaming3830 AGAIN I naturally came to that same advice, I play Tracer, so i dont use up team resources, so why does my team die still? Because ur teammates DONT WANT TO WIN. I literally mean that they dont do anything, they will purposley not Heal, use abilities/ults, or not take cover no matter the role.You can can carry a team of 4 bad players, You cannot carry a 4v5 starting at least higher silver, even top 500 struggle with this. If YOU are someone u can do this, congrats not only are u Gods gift to Overwatch, but ur aslo not supposed to be there anyways as u have the expierence to do that, BUT even then thats not the real issue.
The REAL issue is that people use bronze accounts to sell to others or they want to stay bronze cause they dont want to rank up, so they throw on purpose. YOU ARE PLAYING WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LOSE, EVEN IF U DONT WANT TO ACHIEVE A HIGH RANK, YOU WILL NOT BE PLAYING OVERWATCH AS INTENDED, ITS JUST NOT FUN.
And ye the rank system did help a bit as you can rank up consistenly again as before u had to have like 3 win streaks of 5 to rank up
For some reason its realy hard for me to stick to a character, like ive played alot on bastion but then swtiched to ana, and then just went nuts trying every single character. I dont know how stick to one character cause it gets boring
Metal ranks: people stand out in the open too much. Choose an Omnic hero to maximize value when people don't use map cover. Maybe go Winston when the opposing team is too aggressive to group up.
Diamond and above: use map cover to ensure your supports can do damage; have a game plan in mind before choosing your tank; keep your Sigma skills sharp to shorten your comp games.
The gold advice was my problem on DPS, I always switch off of honzo but I wanted to play him. Finally stop doing that couple seasons ago and now I’m diamond
Coach Mills actually the goat with these videos
I’ve started to sit back with Winston and dive on low targets to goomba stomp them and finish them off when I have a lot of counters to play against. If I have no counters I just decimate the team until they switch.
No matter what rank you are there is always a Sombra behind you waiting to torture you
5:08-5:10 pretty sweet cut
How do I improve my mechanical skills? Im a flex player, and can use most heroes very well. My tracking is good, just not up to a Masters player, and my game sense has become better. I think the only reason I am stuck is due to my mechanical skill. But... how do I improve. I have 900 hrs on the game...
Anyone know a good guide for console settings?
I have a specific question about the advice you around minimizing characters. What happens when the hero’s me play aren’t meta? I play zen and mercy most, but it felt like people were really getting annoyed about me picking zen recently so I was trying to learn other supports. Same with mercy not being as good recently in peoples minds (although I have been able to get 12k heals on her, so it is confusing).
never pay attention to stats if you're looking to rank up, also, mercy isn't a very good support to climb with since she relies on her team instead of having individual impact. what'll have more impact, a mercy damage boosting a soldier missing all their shots, or landing an anti nade on the whole enemy team and sleeping the ulting genji. you should play more supports with carry potential like ana/bap/kiri to remove any potential of your team holding you back. Zen is a pretty good pick, but something i see a lot of low rank players do is just forget about their healing orb. you NEED to have it on someone 24/7, and you NEED to constantly be damaging to make up for your lack of heals. you're also playing a projectile hero, so you don't need to get up in their face to do damage, because you'll do the same amount from 30 meters away
Very informative video. Im plat 3-4 and only play 6-8 games a week. There are many scenarios I don’t know how to play. I think diamond is reachable and enjoy the slow grind atm.
Well said man
i am stuck in bronze! i have fast reaction speed, good settings, and good gamesense. im not perfect, but i deserve at least high silver to gold, BUT! i genuinely and seriously have such horrible luck when it comes to teammates. today alone i had multiple throwers and leavers in VERY winnable games. even if i am not perfect, ive been playing since 2019 and i understand how to play the game properly but i am stuck with people who dont get any of it. so frustrating 😭
Bronze support won't get out of bronze until they fix the troll lobby trolls. It's 1 in 2 matches now where someone is doing 28 to 30k damage and 50 elims. If on support and you're on a winning streak, the game will see if you can "carry" where you're the best player on your side. Well if you're a mercy or lw main than you are just seriously postponing the inevitable loss as the surf builds ult and then wipes out your team
I went silver 3 with mercy after not playing for 4 months. Its not impossible but I have been winning more games doing what these videos say. I use ping and am concentrating using a few supports.
Thank you❤
I am genuinely asking for anyone who knows this.
I have been playing OW since 2019 and i got placed in bronze in 2019 because I just never really played ranked like that, but now that I do want to grind ranked, my mmr is so abysmal its baffling. I get 8-13 percent gains and 9-12 percent losses. I am only about 30 matches into ranked this season, so why am I already in elo hell? my friends who I almost exclusively play with also have old accs that were low ranked and they have the same amount of games as me, yet they get 70+ gains, and 20 losses. WHAT DO I DO. I've been debating making a new account, should I? These number are really making me not want to grind ranked
Before this vid I would always check teammates outs and normally fall back and I’m still in bronze
well these aren't the skills you need to play solo or you are falling back way too much there's alvays that sweet spot that you just have to find
Bro I was with my 3 mates who were in the top 500 back in season 4, we came back tot he game were gold n plat now but damn were getting rolled
For me prsonally im alright with being in plat/ diamond bc im 2/3 blind but im always for advice, so thanks for this video❤
if im a healer and i play moira and lucio, but my team asks for a mercy, should i stay on the healer i know im good at? is my hero pool too small? should i just switch for synergy purpose?
It all depends on the situation your team is in. If your team is in need of more damage, then you can switch to Mercy to buff your tank and dps. In my opinion, I feel it important for support mains to know the basics of Mercy since the amount of scenarios she can be valuable is higher than both Lucio and Moira based off of her kit since she has rez, high mobility, the ability to poke (dmg from afar or picking off low health players from afar), damage buff, and good heals.
My account is very old in overwatch, is being hard stuck a thing ?
hi i play semi-professionally, played in owcs
and I'm looking for some tank coaches can u recommend me someone?
How do I get someone to coach me
me: very close to reaching gold 90% of the games I play.
also me: 8 year old laptop held together by tape running the game with over 1000 ping.
ping is different from fps ^^
@@Amy_399 i know. I meant what i said. Imagine rubberbanding back to spawn mid team fight due to lag. That's my ping.
@@thegamingillustrator might wanna check your network adapter then
@@thegamingillustrator oh I get you man sometimes I get ping issues for no reason and I just fly around the entire map xd (though you can kinda guess where ur going based on hero speed since you don't actually move back) but that's about what you can do during it
People really need to internalize the plat advice. Team game, play as a team, also know the status of your team, don’t ult into a losing team fight, pick your battles
maybe i’ll get into T500 with this one since it starts at master this szn 😂😭
The tip with sticking to one hero is pretty damn important for Overwatch 2, you wouldn't really expect it but there are 28 maps right now in OW2, if you play 15 different champs, you need 420 (lol) games, just so you played each champ on all maps a single time, if you try to be someone who "mastered" every champ on all maps that would probably need like at least 200 games on each map which would leave you with 84000 games, have fun trying to play that many lol.
Underrated aspect. I'm a new player, have around 120 games played and I'm pretty sure I still haven't played some maps even once.
no way there are 28 maps, feels like its 5
Yo coach mills is it ok to play the same character every game.Like if I main genji and play him every game.
well I'm not him but during a comp game it's best to have 3 heroes that play diffrently like if your are going to get stuck playing circuit royale (a sniper map) and you are the only one on your team playing dive you propably won't have fun but if you also played a sniper you would actually be able to do a lot during the game or even a diffrent diver like sombra and just pick off the snipers easily obviously there are players that one tricked to high rank but it took them THOUSANDS of hours to achieve that level
Whooops I am exactly the no grind time wrong setting bronze ...
Why am stuck,
No matter how well I do I get stuck with awful ppl. Recently one match with an anna that had like 700 healing after 3 control maps or different team that we had a tank that only had 2k damage after 3 control maps
if you can't carry your team, you don't deserve to rank up, simple as that, and remember, on average, the enemy team gets the same amount of throwers as you do
Why do I feel that you are only talking from the dps pov?
What do I do about every 2nd or 2rd game I play I have bots on my team? 😂
on average, the enemy team will also have the same amount of "bots" on their team over multiple games, so it balances out to the point you are the significant factor in your ranked games
As a silver 1-gold 3 player I keep wondering why I’m not ranking up. My damage can be twice the tanks but I know I must be doing things majorly wrong. I’m just at a loss. I try to keep all of these things in mind and am constantly checking & telling people to fall back when they’re trying to 2v5 people. I’m tired of seeing my team try to be the “hero.” These ranks seem to be big on ego (based from insecurity). I find it so hard to navigate since I don’t have friends to que with. I’m welcome to feedback comments (please keep in mind i’ve been playing since it came out and it’s my favorite game, and have watched countless videos and streams).
welp, as a masters tank player who had to play through silver dps after I did shit on my placements (currently diamond in dps), it's entirely possible. remember, YOU have to be the carry for your team, there's clearly something you're doing in your metal rank games that people in diamond+ aren't, whether it be cd wasting, terrible positioning, bad timing, bad awareness of ults, etc. (also, never ever pay attention to stats when you're trying to rank up, they mean next to nothing in the overall picture)
I wish I had more time to play ranked.
Played 80 games and my competitive haven't even unlocked yet
That's because you have won just very few matches due to your low skills. You have to pay a coach to teach you to improve yourself!
What's the background music starting at like 6:15
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I rlly want to get to silver in the game but i cant even afford an actual gaming computer and i gotta use a laptop with a notebook as my "mousepad", I also can only play on 2 stacked bins bc i dont have a table 😭
Facts about silver. Admittedly I’m very inconsistent with execution, but I lose a lot of matches unnecessarily due to lack of fundamental understanding from other players: Don’t group up, try to 1 v 5, pop Ults for no reason, over extending, don’t use cover, don’t retreat when at a disadvantage. I’m gonna try the advice of lowering my character pool and working on mechanical skills more to start.
Focus on gamesense more than your mechanical skill it will get better with time and stop focusing on your team but yourself if you are mad or distracted by your team you ain't gonna do as well as u could
@@engineergaming3830 I feel like I have some game sense, I’ve been playing since OW1 at gold rank. It wasn’t until recently I’ve been stuck in silver and can’t get out. It’s hard (for me at least) as a support main to carry.
I say mechanical skill because then I can solidify kills by landing crits more consistently instead of relying on dps to. When you spend most of your resources pumping into your team to keep them alive because they absorb so much damage I can’t help with dealing damage, or your constantly healing but nobody is killing anything, it’s just a vicious cycle at that point. I’m open to any pointers with that because currently I’m at a lost.
Currently kinda stuck plat 5/gold 1 territory. I always have the least deaths, i always die last in fights and i do have a pretty good understanding of comps and fight tactics in ow. The problem is, i play junkrat…
I could quite easily climb out if i just played soujurn, but i cant bring myself to do it. I carry, and as long as i get 2-3 kills BEFORE any of my teammates die EVERY fight, we win. But staying that consistent as junkrat is pretty hard. Especially when you’re teammates are screaming at you for playing junkrat even though they’re 2-10 and youre 20-3.
Also, yes its a hard life, especially when echo exists. And i will admit my execution of thought out plays is prob my weakest point. And if i just played the game more id be a higher rank.
I have played on diamond level before
The rank system is a fixed system so many people will always be low ranked, right?
no? the better a player is the higher they'll go just take your time and you'll see the results of hard work
Dont run in alone, you will die.
Okay, @Coach_Mills , but I have some questions. If the reasons for Silver not rising are related to them feeding, not knowing how to retreat... and among other things that are a lack of game knowledge... How can players with more than 2,000 hours of gameplay, or even more than that, remain stuck on the silver like that? Would it be considered some type of learning disability for players? stubbornness? bad habits? why look closely. It is scientifically proven that if a person has 10 thousand hours of theoretical and practical knowledge in a certain subject or something, they become a specialist in that area. 2 thousand hours is 1/5 of that, it's enough knowledge to be trivialized and considered something as superficial as feeding or not knowing how to retreat... So why are there players with so much time spent on the game, stuck together with the other 66% of players, who are currently stuck in the silver, since the Rank update? And I still question: How do you explain gold or even platinum players, who make exactly the same mistakes you listed about silver players in your video and move up easily and are in these higher ranks and even with less playing time or a smaller hero pool? ?
They Play the same way all the time get predictable and develop bad habits like being toxic for example the people that ranked up propably stopped making as many mayby they even watched a few guides with an open mind
10k hours is not "scientifically proven" to mean anything, this is literally just idiomatic nonsense, and 10k hours of blindly feeding with no self reflection or effort to improve compared to 100 hours of actively trying to improve are worlds apart.
When you say a better reaction time comes with time, it doesn't tell me anything. I am utterly brain dead and cannot think at a speed that would suggest I am a normal person. I am stuck because I cannot think quickly, I subconsciously mute out important things, my kbm configuration makes my hands uncomfortable, and I cannot think of how to better my aim. I don't notice what my sens or dpi are while I am in the middle of the game, but I am not good. I don't know what to start out with first. I have been playing since Ana came out, but I am still terrible.
Why do i get plat 3 when i go 10-0 in my placemments and my friend went 9-1 and got masters 4
I have like 1200 hours in Overwatch.
But I only have like 500 hours on comp.
I think I have some game sense. When I play ranked I am in gold.
I think I just have to play more
I play so rarely these days. (Been at least a month of two) (Work has been crazy). I'm...pretty fkked when it comes to climbing, aren't I?
yeah dx I remember for the first few seasons I had like 300+ games now I barely get 40 comp matches
I downloaded this game again and after being placed in silver something I went on a winstreak to gold 1 and was sure I was gonna reach plat, after the winstreak ended I went quickly down to silver/gold and Im now stuck here.
I dont get how I as a new player could go on a WS to almost plat and now border to silver
Edit: after watching this video I somehow went on a winstreak againXD
Is it still possible to be able to do everything in your rank and just get unlucky with teammates so you're just stuck?
Are you really trying to blame the fact you just aren't good enough to rank up on your teammates when the enemy team gets more randoms than yours
@@engineergaming3830 unless you are playing tank, it is the teammates fault sometimes tho.
cus if you are a support main, and your tank is either playing backline support, or straight up feeding by standing in the open with a discord orb on them, or running in 1v5 and dying in 3 seconds, and your dps left, and the other dps runs in 1v5, because they dont know how to group up, then it is literally impossible to win.
because even if you are a top 500 smurf, you literally cannot contest for 4 whole minutes, when you are on support and the enemy team on mauga, phara, bastion, zen and kiri.
and even if you live, once you get a payload map ur fucked. cus how are you gonna win a 1v5 on support, while also contesting?
@@minuwasfish uhh even a plat support can mop the floor with bronze lobbies also support is literally one of the best roles to play solo as you get a ton of survivability,self healing and dmg again not ALL of your games are gonna be like that if you are better than them you will rank up blaming others for your inability to learn from your mistakes and sticking to bad habits is what keeps you there
@@engineergaming3830and what if you are NOT a smurf? what if you climbed your way up like a normal person?
10 games a season?.. what if we have played hundreds and are still in bronze :(
Use Lucoa next time you wont! Great guide thanks!
Thank you very much! A lot of people should look more from a third person perspective and analyze their gameplay!
This is also a fundamental YOU taught me! Focus more on your gameplay, in which areas can you improve, how can you improve?
getting VOD's is also really good as it gives you an outsiders perspective since they won't excuse bad plays with "I wanted to do that but..."
This one is good im platt sup, gold on the rest i started play in ow2
All I want is for my allies to be worth focusing. Way too easy for most of the enemies to ignore everyone else, dive me, I have to swap or get really creative, then get blamed for the loss even though a tank or support could have done the bare minimum and gotten me out of being focused so hard.
Not saying that's why I can't climb. But it sure does require patience when all your allies seem to react at 1/4 your speed and urgency.
@@Xiatteryeah playing solo is a pain just try to learn how to Play with your team it's hard to get teammates that will work with you on low ranks and yeah you should swap on those situations you shoudn't expect to Play what you like all the time
i recommend getting good at soldier and just start harassing the enemy supports by distracting them. A soldier existing in the backline surprisingly makes a lot of space for your team.
As a silver rank player i was proud at first...but then he said we dont understand teamplays...dont call me out like that pls🥺
Yo mills, I'm low-key hard stuck D1. I only play pharah tho 😂. What other hero(s) would you recommend to add with pharah as my main?
Not Mills, though I have some small experience in my portfolio: Without knowing a ton about your style and skill set, and taking into consideration potential nerfs and buffs, I would recommend considering another dps hero that has more consistent damage. Pharah has good burst and works in pretty much all ranks to similar effect assuming similar skill levels. Sometimes though, what your team needs, and what will cause the opposing team to falter, is consistent pressure.
Potential heroes: 76, Cassidy, Ashe, and potentially Sojourn.
It's important to remember that while having high ground is important, it does place your team below at a disadvantage in some situations. UNLESS you are putting in enough damage, or securing kills, as Pharah, a swap like this can help ease that weight.
@@xaniso6955 I appreciate the reply! I honestly find hitscan so much less fun, but I was thinking that was probably the best option for games where pharah isn't working
@@WaSsUpP808you might want to learn a hero like sombra for those pesky widow onetricks
i was low masters high dimond on dps now i am plat 4 and i win 2 times and i get for each like 20% then when i lose i lose 45% and i dont know wtf do i do wrong. My team is usuly good moast of them was in master/dimond plyers and i am claming in suport and i it is the same as in dps but i dont know why i am deranking
Well it might be because of morale you might start playing worse when you're losing and the ranked system focuses a lot on performance
" maybe they dont play that much a week maybe 20-30 hours" like damn, thats more than enough..
I was plat and when i played like once or twice a week and dont have good mechanical skills at all. i still dont know where all the health packs are or best/worst counters.
If you just have commonsense or situational awareness, you can do alot. Honestly think thats peoples biggest problem. Not seeing the bigger picture or thinking a few steps ahead
im plat on dps n super close to plat on tank yet on support Ive played 4 placement games its predicting bronze 2 and I havent won a single one of them I think the problem will go away with just playing a couple more games but definetly Im not 1vs5 the lobbies
Nice vid
One thing I want to mention to you all that halfway in I haven't heard: If you want to rank up, you have to play consistently as a player in that rank, not just a great player in your rank. The best Gold player is still a Gold player.
Are these ranks before or after season 9, because masters in past season is like Diamond/Plat in season 9
Not really 😂😂
Yea, I’ve only peaked Diamond like 7x different times now. Currently season diamond still, I’m a Tank/Dps flex ish player. I can beat master to GM players and sometimes top 500’s, but how can you climb to masters?
I think many people mistake Top 500 for being a separate rank. Sure, it displays as one, but it's actually a rank range, ranging from Diamond to Champion, so you might be playing with a player of your own skill level.
@@ciach0_ it really depends honestly say I win like 4 to 5 games back to back, then the match maker auto joins top player brackets. Rather than losing said 4 to 5 matches,then it’s all bronze 5 players or legit silver matches.
@@byotokyo2368 yeah, it's poorly optimized, even I as a Silver got matched with Plat players
@@ciach0_ blizzard hopefully will FiX that issue. Past season “10” hopefully of OW2
@@byotokyo2368 they also need to change the Engagement-Optimized Matchmaking to Skill-Based Matchmaking
Guilty of swapping off widow to sojourn as soon as I see a sombra 😂 sorry I’m not Finna bash my head to play around a sombra
That's good! Don't force yourself intro a disadvantage and adapt to the enemy team
What i do if i get a 9 wins 1 lose and i still rank down.. like why
that's literally impossible, 9 wins straight is at least 1 division + 70%-80%, and a loss is usually 20% of a division
@coach_mills I'm not gonna lie I am in gold but I kept running into people who were smurfs or hackers and they had gamertags like popcorn, pickles, cheese, notsmurfin, icantaim, notwidowmaker. They always have default skins but yet their aim is absolutely flawless. So I was put back down to silver. And yes I can confirm 4:30 these silver players don't utilize plays and I found myself telling them what to do and was the only reason it put me back to gold😂
honestly I recommend you don't tell people what to do but just ask them some people might not take what you said kindly and think you made fun of them or smth trust me I know from experience (I'm diamond) but yeah good job on getting to gold you are getting close to the majority of players!
@@engineergaming3830Yeah some people get offended and honestly i don't really like telling people what to do but some silver games there would be a 3v4 and no one would utilize. I'm never the type of player to tell others swap or diff I'm always the one to adjust to my team.
@@vchente27 the word diff is dumb like how do you base the diffrence on? if the enemy team has like a sombra winston and here you are sombra with orisa as your tank it's kinda obvious based on the team comp that the enemy sombra and tank will outperform yours but yeah being flexible is good even if ur not "good" at a hero if that's what your team REALLY needs being the guy to do it is the right thing to do even if ur not gonna get that many kills
Atleast for support how to climb from bronze to gold is this. Pick lucio stand behind tank hold heal and shoot at the enemy. No wall riding no fancy nonsense just stand basically still shoot and heal. You climb out very fast. For dps pick torb do the same thing. Tank I don't have an answer there isn't any afk tanks to play.
I did it as an experiment on a friend's account that was bronze.
It might work on low ranks but then you'll run at a problem of good players killing you constantly for doing the same thing
what heros are good rn
Tracer, echo, bap, kiri, Ana, dva, sigma, mauga
I'm in silver and my DPS last game was 3-9 and heal diff of 6k-13k
player performance is based on many factors like: the map,if your on attack or defence,what heroes do they have,what heroes does your team have,are your teammates trying to work together,is the enemy team working well together,are your teammates getting heals,are they using ults and abilities correctly etc.. it's not just skill