For anyone who is interested; When Tiffen created Pro Mist Filters they created the different strengths in order to provide a consistent level of filtration across the range of focal length lenses because the filtration effect increases as the focal length of the lens becomes more telephoto. A 1/4 pro mist (black or white) will be much stronger on a 85mm lens than it will be on a 25mm lens. A common formula for using Pro Mist Filters is 1/2 Promist for 18mm and wider, the 1/4 Pro Mist for 25mm - 35mm lenses, and 1/8 for 50mm and above. This principle applies to all diffusion filters. I hope this is information is useful.
Thanks! Best 1/8 1/4 comparison video I've found, well the only one I found and it did the job. Your daylight shoot with the 1/4 made me decide to go for 1/8.
Great way you choose to show the differences in many different ways. Good job! I think I would settle on the 1/8 for a few reasons, it doesn’t wash out as much it has better contrast also you don’t loose too much clarity on the face and I’m sure it will be a lot easier for the camera to auto focus compared to the 1/4, especially in low light.
Great review. I have both and would say the 1/4 is the way to go if you are running a matte box. It keeps those flares down whenever you are using a flag so the highlights aren’t too distracting and you get that smooth look. It also depends on the camera you shoot as well. From a high contrast camera like the GH5S I prefer the 1/4 but the BMPCC4k I use the 1/8 or none.
Solid, definitely getting close to 10,000 a pro. I like how you provide a recommendation instead of having Me rookie figure things out by “please tell me what you think in comments”
Thank you for the comparison! I plan on using one of these filters for film photography at night and this helped me to decide upon the 1/4 filter. I think its going to add some nice spice to the lighting having the bloom spread into shadowed areas with neon signs and gas stations.
Love your vibe; best comparison I've seen. It's strange to have sought after sharpness in an image, expensive sensor and lens, and now want to blur it, but the look of these filters is amazing, especially outside.
I think when it comes to people you may want to blur and soften the image,however when it comes to subjects such as cars, food,jewellry things like that is when the sharpness comes into gd use.
Thanks for this video, Vu! It wasn't "idiotic" and you look perfectly fine. Don't run yourself down so much, it's kind of disturbing, lol. I wish there was a filter right between 1/8 and 1/4... the diffusion with the 1/8 filter is barely noticeable, and 1/4 is a little too much!
Might be suffering from "confirmation bias" because I intended to go the 1/8 route anyway and your review really wrapped it up for me. Anyway, I had to look through quite some videos before finding a review that basically shows examples and doesn't talk about how much each one costs for five minutes. Thanks!
Cinebloom seems to give more of that vintage vibe because it washes the blacks out a ton more than these. Both cool just different looks 🤙 Thanks a ton for this great video!!
Excellent video bro, thanks so much for this video. Had to subscribe for more content. I got the cinebloom 20% and now I will certainly add TBP 1/8 this to my collection after watching this.
I use Tiffen Black Pro Mist #1 and #2 soft focus 77mm filters for head & shoulder portraits using a 180mm lens on RB67 medium format cameras and an 85mm f/1.4 lens on full-frame cameras.
@@nVuFilms I researched this for 9 hours today...hovering over click on the 1/4 in my cart...and you saved me from making what I know know was the wrong choice. 1/8 makes so much more sense for those who can only get 1 at the moment. This seems obvious with how simple you explain it but no one did it like you! Saving filmmakers everywhere. Thanks again.
I have seen comparison videos on the Black Satin, Hollywood Black Magic, and Classic Soft diffusion filters as well. Some really cool difference on the blooming effects and the speckles that show up in Bokeh Balls. I see many mirrorless camera owners using these to get the Digital look out of their footage. Great subject matter Vu.
I am here for the filters, not for a face. That is something you should share in therapy my friend! I love your videos on instagram, they are the funniest thing I find on that app
@@quevidafilms hey thanks. Those same videos on IG are here on YT shorts. Also I clown myself as a joke. Generally... I try to make fun of myself first to give my permission to roast others for fun.
I shoot with the Sony a6300 and fujifilm xt1. I prefer the og style of tiffen on my fujifilm xt1 bc I shoot with only vintage manual lens on that camera. I bought a 2 stop tiffen nd filter and paired it with a sigma vintage lens and was blown away. So I ordered the tiffen soft fx nd filter to slap on the sigma 30mm 1.4 bc I like the cinematic feel that I get from my Sony a6300, although I have received it yet. As I'm watching this I'm on Amazon now looking for black pro mist. Thx for the video 💪🏿🐺
Hey! Don't talk about yourself like that! You have a lovely face and your review is wonderful! Definitely going to purchase the 1/8 filter cause of this vid. Thanks :)
Thanks for the test! I went with the 1/8 too. 1/4 is great for some shoots but to get these ultra sharp Sigmas more organic without clients say its to dreamy, 1/8 is the way to go. Also have a 1/8 on my leica q2 and sometimes its to hard especially with black and white photography. I think it really depends on what look is the goal in the end. In general 1/8 is the most versatile and works for all cases to break that digital look a bit.
Thx.. I’ll go with 1/8 for my stream cam... A6100.. the elgato key light so harsh & my 40yo skin looks trashy. I almost went 1/4... but 1/8 $59 used-like new on Amazon, worth a shot!
Thanks for this review. I've got the 1/4 which seems to be good enough for me right now. When using these with an ND filter what would be the right way to stack it? Pro Mist first then ND or vice versa?
probably a dumb question but I haven't used a diffusion filter for video - when out doors I usually use a variable ND. Would you stack the vnd on before or after the diffusion filter or would the ND ruin the effect of the diffusion filter?
the only negative is the flare is stuck so you can't fix the haze in post and its uncontrolled by light . so you might have light flare or extreme flare
Great advice thank you. Could I please ask... how would you use the Black Pro Mist in bright daylight conditions? Would you combine it with an ND (or variable ND)? Or just rely on your appropriate shutter speed and aperture?
For anyone who is interested; When Tiffen created Pro Mist Filters they created the different strengths in order to provide a consistent level of filtration across the range of focal length lenses because the filtration effect increases as the focal length of the lens becomes more telephoto. A 1/4 pro mist (black or white) will be much stronger on a 85mm lens than it will be on a 25mm lens. A common formula for using Pro Mist Filters is 1/2 Promist for 18mm and wider, the 1/4 Pro Mist for 25mm - 35mm lenses, and 1/8 for 50mm and above. This principle applies to all diffusion filters. I hope this is information is useful.
Thx ya for this.
Exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Woah did not know this thank you
Great. Now I need one between 1/8 and 1/4 🙄
are you talking based on Fullframe?
Man Stop self deprecating yourself . By the way great video, really helped me decide with the purchase. Thanks.
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Seconded. You’re doing great.
Third(ed? Idk lol) anyways thanks great stuff
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Yes please
Thanks for the side-by-side and indoor v outdoor comparisons. I like how the contrast remains with both grades. Very helpful.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Thanks! Best 1/8 1/4 comparison video I've found, well the only one I found and it did the job. Your daylight shoot with the 1/4 made me decide to go for 1/8.
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Great way you choose to show the differences in many different ways. Good job! I think I would settle on the 1/8 for a few reasons, it doesn’t wash out as much it has better contrast also you don’t loose too much clarity on the face and I’m sure it will be a lot easier for the camera to auto focus compared to the 1/4, especially in low light.
amazing review, JUST what i needed. btw, you’re a good looking dude, stop putting yourself down so much!!
Lol thanks
Dude stop it / that’s his shtick!! ‘Lighten up!’
For my video purpose, your comparison helped me the most! Thanks! Just ordered both of them!
Awesome
The 1/8th looks like a sweetspot. Definitely when combined with some haze.
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I agree with your conclusion. 1/8 is the perfect one to keep on at most times without worrying that you'll overdo it.
Really helpful comparison. I liked how you showed in studio and real life examples of the filter effects. Thanks!
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Out of all the videos i watched about diff filters, your's is the most reliable, thanks man, made my decision to buy the 1/8 🙂
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Great review. I have both and would say the 1/4 is the way to go if you are running a matte box. It keeps those flares down whenever you are using a flag so the highlights aren’t too distracting and you get that smooth look. It also depends on the camera you shoot as well. From a high contrast camera like the GH5S I prefer the 1/4 but the BMPCC4k I use the 1/8 or none.
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I just ordered a 1/4 for my Sony a6400. Sony images are too sharp, hopefully this does the trick.
What a funny way to describe yourself!!😁😁😁
Following your excellent demo I ordered the 1/8.
Thanks so much!!
Solid, definitely getting close to 10,000 a pro. I like how you provide a recommendation instead of having Me rookie figure things out by “please tell me what you think in comments”
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Thank you for the comparison! I plan on using one of these filters for film photography at night and this helped me to decide upon the 1/4 filter. I think its going to add some nice spice to the lighting having the bloom spread into shadowed areas with neon signs and gas stations.
I think is safe with 1/8 and never take off from lens, nice subtle softy image from it. Other 1/4 and 1/2 is too much unless you gonna use in purpose
It's all personal preference....I think I like the 1/4 myself. But can see in different situations how I would like the 1/8 also.
If shot at wide open angle use the 1/8 but if you need to shoot a closer angle like 35mm onwards you need the 1/4 for coherency purpose.
hello! isn't this the other way around?
@@_k2filmsnope. 1/4 affects too much at higher zooms. Like on an 80mm it will be a lot stronger compared to a 23 for example.
Great video! Very helpful. Also, your face looks great my dude! Great job!
Most excellent review. I like 1/8th best on the face. 1/4 is borderline too much. Best to have not enough than too much!! Thanks!
I agree
Got exactly what I needed answered. I was originally debating between the 1/2 vs 1 so that clear that up. Thanks for the vid.
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LMAO "I'm sorry you have to look at", entertaining and very informative information bro. Thank you.
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Great video man. Went for the 1/4 here for the more dramatic look. Not as a permanent filter. This video helped 👍
I've been waiting to get this for awhile, came back to your video and used your Amazon link for the purchase 🤙🏻
Thanks bro
Thank you for this - i was having a real hard time deciding. It wasn't easy having to endure your face but I soldiered on & got to the end.
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I agree 100%. 1/8 is the catch-all filter strength. Obviously your glass and focal length also effect how the diffusion sits on your footage. °¬)
Thanks Vu, your review really hit the spot for me. Excellent comparisons. Sold me on the 1/8 definitely!
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Love your vibe; best comparison I've seen. It's strange to have sought after sharpness in an image, expensive sensor and lens, and now want to blur it, but the look of these filters is amazing, especially outside.
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I think when it comes to people you may want to blur and soften the image,however when it comes to subjects such as cars, food,jewellry things like that is when the sharpness comes into gd use.
Awesome video! Your humour is one of a kind!!
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Cool, video. I just purchased the Black Pro Mist 1/4
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Thanks for this video, Vu! It wasn't "idiotic" and you look perfectly fine. Don't run yourself down so much, it's kind of disturbing, lol. I wish there was a filter right between 1/8 and 1/4... the diffusion with the 1/8 filter is barely noticeable, and 1/4 is a little too much!
Good test - The perfect will be 1/6
Agree about the 1/8 over the 1/4 for my shooting style. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and subbing !
Comparison starts @5:10 great stuff!👍
Might be suffering from "confirmation bias" because I intended to go the 1/8 route anyway and your review really wrapped it up for me. Anyway, I had to look through quite some videos before finding a review that basically shows examples and doesn't talk about how much each one costs for five minutes. Thanks!
Awesome video , appreciate your insight into the 1/4 and 1/8 bpm filters!
Definitely prefer 1/8th, I use mine for vintage style photography
Cinebloom seems to give more of that vintage vibe because it washes the blacks out a ton more than these. Both cool just different looks 🤙
Thanks a ton for this great video!!
Excellent video bro, thanks so much for this video. Had to subscribe for more content. I got the cinebloom 20% and now I will certainly add TBP 1/8 this to my collection after watching this.
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Dang he had it right, it helped me make a decision.
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I use Tiffen Black Pro Mist #1 and #2 soft focus 77mm filters for head & shoulder portraits using a 180mm lens on RB67 medium format cameras and an 85mm f/1.4 lens on full-frame cameras.
You answered the question very well bro 🤛
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If you shoot into the light and lack sufficient dynamic range, there will be problems with flare - try really deep lens hoods, they are essential!
Congrats on the big 10k my dude! Great little comparison in this one. I'm still undecided....looks like I'll have to eventually get both options lol
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The perfect video on this topic.
Really helpful, thanks!
I'm gonna buy a 1/8 and on shoots where a more dreamy look is required will rent out either a 1/4 or 1/2
Thanks for the video bro. I chose the 1/8 due to his video and love it 👍
Cool man
Thank you for a great review! It just helped me to decide.
Great video and informative. Your daughter is so cute! Lovely footages. Keep up the great work 😃
Thank you
Great video. Thank you. Picked the 1/8.
Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for
very good visualization of the differences 👍👍👍
Great review! Just what I needed!
I use a 1/4 for shots with any decent light in the frame. For shots with no lighting in frame I use a 1/2
This man saved my life - thanks so much liked and subscribed
Thanks
@@nVuFilms I researched this for 9 hours today...hovering over click on the 1/4 in my cart...and you saved me from making what I know know was the wrong choice. 1/8 makes so much more sense for those who can only get 1 at the moment. This seems obvious with how simple you explain it but no one did it like you! Saving filmmakers everywhere. Thanks again.
That was helpful! You have a lovely family!
Thank you !
I also like the look of the 1/8, at least for the work I do. BTW, beautiful family!
WOWW amazing video! You are the best! Thanks a lot!!!
This was very helpful, thanks for this video
dang, so good!!! btw, was cracking in the beginning. man you funny
🤣 thanks
Looks really good, nice work. Can you remind me what camera and lens/aperture you shot your video with?
I have seen comparison videos on the Black Satin, Hollywood Black Magic, and Classic Soft diffusion filters as well. Some really cool difference on the blooming effects and the speckles that show up in Bokeh Balls. I see many mirrorless camera owners using these to get the Digital look out of their footage. Great subject matter Vu.
Thanks for watching
Perfect explanation, You only needed to record some outdoor scenes with the 1/8
Great video! I went with the 1/8 to leave on my 35mm f/1.8
This helped me decide which one I needed. Thanks!!
I am here for the filters, not for a face. That is something you should share in therapy my friend! I love your videos on instagram, they are the funniest thing I find on that app
@@quevidafilms hey thanks. Those same videos on IG are here on YT shorts. Also I clown myself as a joke. Generally... I try to make fun of myself first to give my permission to roast others for fun.
Thanks for the comprehensive comparison. 1/4 can be too much sometimes.
I prefer the 1/8, thanks for this video my friend! ☺
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Have been considering between 1/4 and 1/8, and you give me the answer. Boom - 1/8. Actually i wish I could take them both 😅
i think if you have a standard zoom lens like a Tamron 28-75 or that 24-70, the 1/8 would really be the perfect choice for general use
Love 1/8 for my primes
Great video! Thank you for this!
I shoot with the Sony a6300 and fujifilm xt1. I prefer the og style of tiffen on my fujifilm xt1 bc I shoot with only vintage manual lens on that camera. I bought a 2 stop tiffen nd filter and paired it with a sigma vintage lens and was blown away. So I ordered the tiffen soft fx nd filter to slap on the sigma 30mm 1.4 bc I like the cinematic feel that I get from my Sony a6300, although I have received it yet. As I'm watching this I'm on Amazon now looking for black pro mist. Thx for the video 💪🏿🐺
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Hey! Don't talk about yourself like that! You have a lovely face and your review is wonderful! Definitely going to purchase the 1/8 filter cause of this vid. Thanks :)
Should of filmed this with the lens cover on. Just kidding ~ you helped me pick the one I want. Thanks
Thank you so much buddy for making an easier decision :)
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Be nice to your face! Great video, just what I was looking for ❤️
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It did help thanks man!!!🎉
woww wooow that's what I looking for!! great video!!! thank you!!!!
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I would use them depending on the focal lenght I'm shooting at... telephoto always looks amazing with some flares. :)
Thanks for the test! I went with the 1/8 too. 1/4 is great for some shoots but to get these ultra sharp Sigmas more organic without clients say its to dreamy, 1/8 is the way to go.
Also have a 1/8 on my leica q2 and sometimes its to hard especially with black and white photography.
I think it really depends on what look is the goal in the end. In general 1/8 is the most versatile and works for all cases to break that digital look a bit.
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Thx.. I’ll go with 1/8 for my stream cam... A6100.. the elgato key light so harsh & my 40yo skin looks trashy. I almost went 1/4... but 1/8 $59 used-like new on Amazon, worth a shot!
Not idiotic, thanks bro, great video!
Perfect review! Great job man.
Thanks
Thanks for this review. I've got the 1/4 which seems to be good enough for me right now. When using these with an ND filter what would be the right way to stack it? Pro Mist first then ND or vice versa?
Stack shouldn't matter
im pretty scared of stacking anything. lol dont want even minimal ghosting
Love your work brother..
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probably a dumb question but I haven't used a diffusion filter for video - when out doors I usually use a variable ND. Would you stack the vnd on before or after the diffusion filter or would the ND ruin the effect of the diffusion filter?
It doesn't matter
Hi mate, great video, but the negative comments about yourself you don’t need. You’re good man
those outdoor shots were beautiful, interested to know if you were using the promist on top of a VND to shoot those clips with your family?
Mist only. No nd. Thanks
@@nVuFilms thanks for the speedy response! Much appreciated! 🙏
Great video, great advice. Looks like your video was shot at the farm in moorpark?
Definitely not
@@nVuFilms ah ok. Looks very similar then.
the only negative is the flare is stuck so you can't fix the haze in post and its uncontrolled by light . so you might have light flare or extreme flare
I think at 1/4 the bloom might be a little too much. I think 1/8 is good enough.
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Love your content.
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great video! subbed. I want the 1/8 but only the 1/4 can be found anywhere. oh well. it's for a 46mm micro 4/3 Leica lens.
You have a beautiful face, please don’t criticize it so much
Great advice thank you. Could I please ask... how would you use the Black Pro Mist in bright daylight conditions? Would you combine it with an ND (or variable ND)? Or just rely on your appropriate shutter speed and aperture?
I've been just messing with the shutter. Should use nd tho
Just got mine. It works great other than the flare which is really bad when using step up rings. Any advice?
너무 감사합니다❤ 덕분에 8분의 1을 구매합니다❤😊
I hope you vision turns out ok after looking at my face that **** had me laughing my *** off.
Lol
1/8 it is for me. Thank you
I love you, dude!