Moment CINEBLOOM vs Tiffen BLACK PRO MIST
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0:00 intro
1:03 what are these things?
1:53 what they look like?
2:51 diffusion strengths?
3:59 differences between?
5:40 results!
6:24 blooming?
7:54 digital edge?
8:22 conclusion.
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I prefer the black pro mist.. it maintains more contrast, and has a nice warmer tone. Which is also great for my photography.
Thank you for this video.
glad I could help man. I agree with you on the effect it has and still use it myself when i do want to keep a bit more contrast in.
Same. However, could probably add that contrast back in in post. Then you can save a couple bucks and have a cool red filter ring.
Man, the TH-cam algorithm is really doing you a disservice. I clicked on your channel thinking you were a large TH-camr I hadn't heard of yet. I cannot fathom how you don't have more traffic, your production quality is excellent. Thank you for the comparison and I'm wishing you the best of luck in your career 💪
Wow! Thank you so so much. Really appreciate the kind words! Have a great day🔥
@@JusttJC Absolutely 🤟
Agree with this
I love that the black mist makes it that you can’t see the led chip. much more cinematic
This is the best explanation video with examples I've found. Thank you so much for the time you put into this!
Appreciate the comment thank you!
sheesh. i agree with an earlier comment. great quality. very surprising you don’t have more subs. they’ll come tho. stay consistent fam.
ahhhhh man!! that means loads coming from you bro! Appreciate it🙏🏾💫
Really helpful video! I don't love trying to soften the look of my images in post, so I just started looking into these filters. Thanks for the samples
You sir - are a hero for doing this test. Great side by side. Really helped me make the right choice for me :)
Best comparison video of those two. And I'd like to echo the fact that your channel is brilliant!
Thank you🙏🏾🙏🏾
Subbed, this is incredibly well done. Beautiful work my new friend. Bought both filters cause some scenarios I preferred one over the other haha
Amazing video man, I prefer the black pro mist and will be getting the 1/4 strength soon, thanks for the help through your videos
Thanks for this bro actually looking to add a moment in Cinny Bloom to my collection on shooting a wedding coming up and I think this will make all the difference
I like that the pro mist diffuses the chip of the light more, had a nicer highlight rolloff
100% agree
“I have no clue what I’m doing.” 😂😂 Subbed for that!
EXCELLENT REVIEW! Thanks man! I own both but I came here to think about getting them as 4x5.65 for the mattebox. I think outside cinebloom indoors black promist for me since I am shooting fashion video. BPM is more contrasty and hits the black very well for me.
This is very useful and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for sharing this.
Nice video and comparison. I liked that it was more subjective than scientific - made it more human. Excellent work!
Great review, thanks.
Excellent work. Great content and hard work. Well produced.
thank you very much!
this is so helpful- thank you!
Glad to hear!🙌🏾
This was great man! keep at it.
Thank you man!
Great video - I have a Peter McKinnon VND in my bag that I recently got and haven’t had the time to get out and shoot with - you’ve definitely given me the inspiration to get out and try it out!
Thank you man - Yeah you definitely should, can definitely get some interesting results and nice images🔥
great overview man - thanks!
No problem, thanks for the comment!🙏🏾
Great video! Keep going and learning and you're gonna have a top channel in no time. I notice that the BPM preserves the midtone contrast far more than the Cinebloom, and personally I think that looks more controlled and useable. I like that the BPM bloomed the edge of the light so it was no longer a harsh square. The Cinebloom looks a little 60s Star Trek glamour close-up for me. Word to the wise, infamous means famously bad, not just famous.
Yeah after more use in different scenarios now, i’ve come to agree with this also! And thank you😂 learnt something new today!
I was impressed with the way that you made your presentation. It was pleasant to watch, you came across as helpful and informative. Your voice and presentation was warm and friendly. Thanks for showing us the results of your video trials.
Thank you!🙌🏾
Fantastic content, I haven't subbed to anyone in years. Until I found this video.
Thx dude! So impressive!
No worries man!
Solid video, thanks!
Thanks for this. Super helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Perfect comparison! I bought the Moment Cinebloom 10% and compared it to the Black Pro Mist 1/8 of a friend and had the same findings like you. For me personally the halation of the Moment is too strong, so I‘ll exchange it for a Black Pro Mist or even (Black) Glimmerglass. Thanks for doing this test!
Great work! Keep it up, you'll get the attention you deserve!
Thank you!
This was put together so well mate. I prefer the promist myself as im a cinematic street photography and i love those glowy highlights. But the cinebloom does provide less contrast and fade but i also see that as a bit of a con because with editing its culling quite a bit of the shaddows and gives u less room to edit, but i always add a heavy fade anyway
Thanks man! I agree with you completely
thanks dude, helped me make my choice
Glad I could help!
I agree, i like the cinebloom man. Dope vid
thanks bro🔥
I have many different diffusion filters from a variety of companies. Which ones are best I find depends on the project and the look I'm going for.
that makes sense man, I’m building my collection and doing the same thing!
Thank You!
That's awesome! I guess it really goes down to, what type of story are you telling in the film you're making :)
I personally love the pro mist. It's more subtle and for my style I like the clarity and contrast to still be there. Love the visuals every shot in the video looked wonderful! Subbed and hoping TH-cam picks up your videos more soon in the algorithm from one TH-camr to another! haha
I appreciate that man! Thanks for the comment!
@@JusttJC of course! :) happy holidays!
@@ZachShurtz you too man!💫
@@JusttJC thanks! Also side note if you'd ever be down to chat on a podcast I have an art podcast called Digital Pen Pals where I chat with other artists, creatives and the like, let me know! 😀
Yeah for sure man, drop me a DM on instagram and we can discuss- @Justtjc
Thanks for your work man, exactly what I needed!
Looking out for a pro mist filter for my X100V.
I thought i would like the cinebloom more, but it was the opposite.
I like it with more contrast and warm colors.
Glad it helped!💪🏾
Great video 💥
best comparison so far!
Thanks a bunch! Means a lot
Great video
Much love from France
Merci beaucoup!
Cinebloom and Black pro mist should be use in different conditions or scenarios, Mist as it name make it for nature background morning Misty or foggy look, cinebloom is for city street light with pollution like look. Mist will cover and lost more object details, Cinebloom just created a reflections look from the air density around the lighting. don't miss them up. i would pick Cinbloom for sure.
Yeah I completely agree with you! Cinebloom is my go-to
The Black Pro Mist feels more like the 20% Cinebloom. I got carried away and bought both strengths for my lenses I love them both but leave the 10 on my X100v all the time they're great.
Oh really? yeah I want to grab the 20% as well, see the differences and I think for night stuff it'd be dope!
Is this where they filmed Taskmaster early series?
Hi, can you add a post effect mist filter effect to the comparison such as with final cut pro?
you can slightly recreate the effect in post, note how on final cut but I know you can in davinci, however it’s not quite the same as the real filter
A very useful video. Thanks.
No problem! Thanks for the comment
Nice work mate!
Thanks!
Thanks mate for the nice Video
Thanks for watching!
thanks for the effort and the sharing. do you find yourself using these filters for your stills or your motion work? thumbs up.
Appreciate the comment, I typically use them more for video work and only occasionally for stills because I find it easier to recreate the effect in post for stills if I wanted to
I've been using the Moment Cinebloom for quite some time now in photography. The 10% has become my must have, especially since I'm using Mastin Labs film emulations which tend to be high contrast by nature. Other than some ugly ghosting artifacts on very few images there's no flaws in this filter for my personal taste. Moment even added 5% strength their inventory now. However I still want to give a Tiffen black pro mist a try for preserving the shadows in nighttime shots. So I guess I'll keep my Cinebloom 10 and 20 in 72mm and get a Tiffen in 82 for my latest lens to compare them.
Glad it works well for you, I have recently switched to primarily using Tiffen's BPM for a more subtle effect as I noticed especially outside, the cinebloom starts to blow out the sky a bit more compared to the BPM
@@JusttJC Have you also tried out the Glimmerglass 1 by Tiffen? I'm pretty torn between BPM and Glimmerglass :-D
That’s going to be my next purchase to compare them!
Great comparison, made better by your natural style.
Thank you very much, I appreciate that
I've seen this look created in post without these filters. Any experience?
Yeah I've even done it myself a few times and it's just very situation dependant. I use it when I know this is the look I want for the footage but there are times that I know the client may not want this type of look so I've added it in slightly in post. It never is as good as the physical glass as it sort of has that edited, digital feel but it is always an option.
Very nice!
Prefer the Tiffen look but that cinebloom price will have to do and just edit some of the contrast back in
Yeeah thats true, the moment does take out quite a bit of contrast
Loved this video, but still cannot for the life of me make up my mind on which one I want! 😅
It’s a tough one😅 a slight plug for myself but I did make another update video where I compare them which is slightly better (in my opinion) which may help make your decision!
Excellent video! What lens were you using for the tests?
Sigma 35mm 1.4!
Hey man love the video, also based in the uk! How did you get it shipped to uk? Trying to get one at USA price
For the cinebloomx I ordered it directly from the states and the tiffen I just got one on Amazon!
what measurement did you use for the black pro mist here ? thanks
what do you mean by measurement sorry?
This was so helpful, thank you! I'm thinking of getting the Cinebloom 10% too, where did you get yours from assuming you are also from the UK? It seems to be only from America from what I can find. Thanks!
Glad to hear! I actually ordered it directly from moment to the UK and it came quite quickly
@@JusttJC oh cool, thank you!
With out watching the rest - 4:25 - A = Cine bloom // B = pro mist ... 5:45 ... wow I WAS RIGHT 😁 .... nice video mate, i was just deciding what to buy, your video helped.
thanks man, appreciate you commenting!
I prefer the Cinebloom and i got the 10% version. Nice video.
Appreciate it man!
Thanks for the video! Just subscribed :) I just bought the 1/8th Black Pro Mist and I'm getting some serious ghosting of any direct light source in a shot (example: a light bulb in the shot). It shows up a reflected green glare in the shot. Your shots seem clean of that... Did you do anything special to prevent that? I'm wondering why it's so bad on my camera and doesn't even show up on yours? :(
I'm not sure as I've just recently uploaded a better and more in depth test on that filter and a few more but didn't really get that glare. Could it be to do with your lens?
what strength is the cinebloom? sorry if you said it i didnt hear it
it’s the 10% version
I watched 0.8 seconds of the tests and Knew which was which haha! Moment do hideous Pro Mist copies... Steals al the contrast! Tiffen for lyfe! great video man
Fair enough man, you've got a good eye! Thanks you for the comment!
Ok well I haven’t got to the bit of which is which but from the comparisons, I liked B better.. going to unpause now and see which is which …
Edit, after the reveal - ok! Interesting! I was right about which is which but I learned more about the cinebloom. I think I prefer the blackmist but it was v interesting to compare :)
Glad to see you got it correct! Thanks for the comment🏆
the pro mist retains more detail at certain angles, loses it in others. I kind of prefer the cinebloom but because of filter thread sizes, I have to go with black mist.
I see! What size do you need?
@@JusttJC 43mm, not the easiest size to find.
do they not create step up filters that size?
@@JusttJC they do, but I hesitate to add any un-needed gaps between filter and lens
I liked the Tiffen when your subject is a person and the Moment for more environmental shots.
Ima do it:)
B is the pro mist
A the cinebloom
Great video!love the style.
Keep it up!
Jup.got it right.
The cinebloom is more of an effect ilter, too strong imo.
I take the promist
good job man, appreciate the comment - so you like more of the subtle look the promist gives?
@@JusttJC Apreciate the Video and your style.
Yeah definitely.i guess the more stylized filters absolutely habe their purpose, i just like to have that film like look and soft highlight rolloff in almost all of my shots.
I have the promist on almost all of the time.
Keep it up!
Really enjoyed watching
thank you man, and yeah i agree with you. The cinebloom is more of a stylised look whereas the promist is a bit more natural! Appreciate the kind words🤞🏾
@@JusttJC pleasure😃
Had it right ! I have the Cinebloom 20% and I confirm it's way too strong for non-stylistic projects. Be careful with that brand folks!
Yeah definitely! It really has a specific look
thanks
I have the cinebloom and i immediately knew it was A. I don't like it's kind of misc in the highlights and the images get too washed out in my opinion. I like the black pro mist way more.
yeah I see what you mean!
just ordered pro mist 3 because im a madman
them highlights will be blooming!
You've ignored the penultimate: The Zeiss Softar I, II and III. When I owned a Hasselblad, these were the only front-of-the-lens options for the 150mm Sonnar and 250mm Sonnar lenses for an over-all soft-focus effect. The soft-focus effect changes as you stop-down the lens, but the effect stays with the lens stopped all the way down. The Softar lower the contrast less than most "soft-focus" filters although the Tiffen Pro-Mist Black isn't a big contrast killer with MOST lenses. A very old adage is "Use soft-focus with contrasty light" for flattering portraits. Believe it and heed the saying. This was learned by portraitists 170 years ago. No point in re-inventing the wheel.
Wow, thanks for that lesson, didn’t know that before. This is the first time i’ve heard of the Zeiss Softar personally so i’ll check it it. However I wouldn’t say new filters coming out are re-inventing the wheel, more so just providing different creative options depending on what type of effect you’re looking to create.
That was a great comment @Ricky
Don't waste money on that cinebloom. It's the same effect with a black net stocking in front of your lens. Hazy all the way without retaining any sharpness or contrast. There's a reason why bpm was the Hollywood filmmakers' choice. It blooms the highlights nicely while retaining contrast on the other part of the scene.
a was tiffen!
The problem is that the strenght of the mist filters depends on the focal lenght of our lenses but nobody really mentiones that except K&F Concept with their filters test review when using the weakest mist for the widest lenses and respectively 1/4, 1/2 when lenses goes to 35mm, 50mm and so...
Wow I didn’t know that, thanks for pointing that out🔥
How come the no filter look already looks like my 10% cinebloom 😂😂
Maybe I need to clean my lens😅
The Cinebloom looks extremely obvious that you have a heavy filter on.
The black mist looks better in my opinion!
Nice man, what makes you have that preference?
@@JusttJC the black Pro Mist has a subtle touch that I like!
Hey man, want to sell your pro mist?
Hey, unfortunately not, still actively using it.
prefer the moment over the tiffen
Nice one man, I agree
A is ProMist \
B is CineBloom
Black pro mist wins overall
interesting opinion, what makes you say that?
I feel like dream fx,cinebloom and pro mist all kinda do the same thing
similar thing but they are slightly different
@@JusttJC In your opinion which one do you think is the best between the dream fx and the pro mist
wouldn’t say either one is better than another? dream fx is less realistic and quite an obvious “effect”, whereas the pro mist is more subtle
too many filter videos, I'm confused now. I think I'll skip buying one ...
if it doesn’t fit as a tool to help your creative goals, that’s probably best
Thanks for sharing 🤘
no problem man, glad you got value🏆
Black pro mist clearly won 🥇
What wins it over the cinebloom for you?
good man re the "who really does that? let's be honest" comment.
gotta be real😂
like 1001
Do not buy from Moment if you need your gear in a timely manner. I paid for one of their cinebloom filters on Monday. Well it’s Thursday and the filter still hasn’t even been shipped yet lol. Worse part is I payed for 2 day fedex shipping lol 🤦🏻♂️
I’ve always had quite positive experiences with moment so can’t really pull them on that, could have been a few a few issues. But I definitely get your frustration
@@JusttJC You can’t give companies too many excuses especially when they are taking your money.. and effecting your money (affected today’s shoot). I only live 32 miles away from where the Moment filter ships from lol.. I could’ve just bought a pro mist filter on amazon and had the filter 2 days ago, and also have it to shoot with today. Oh yeah I payed Moment the extra 2 day shipping charge. 4 days later and after complaining via email they finally just started to proceed with shipping. A new found respect for B&H and Amazon efficiency was realized today lol
turn down the music if you're gonna talk low..
the cinebloom 10% is compared to 1/4 dude why the fuck did you compare to 1/8?? And 20% you need to compare with 1/2
Evidently by the results, these seem to be the most comparable. Actually uploading a video tomorrow comparing them all. Thanks for the comment though
Hello ! Which kind of black promise filter you use please on you in This vidéo ?