For anyone who is interested; when Tiffen created Pro Mist filters they created the different strengths in order to provide a consistent level of filtration across the range of focal lengths because the filtration effect increases as the focal length of the lens becomes more telephoto. A 1/4 pro mist (black or white) will be much stronger on an 85mm lens than it will be on a 25mm lens. A common formula for using Pro Mist filters is 1/2 for 18mm and wider, the 1/4 for 25-35mm and 1/8 for 50mm and above. This principle applies to all diffusion filters. I hope this information is useful.
Wow I didn’t know this. Thanks! Good thing I got the right one haha Weeks ago I bought Tiffen black pro mist 1/4 for my sony 35mm g master lens… I like the effects it gives to my images.
Best explanation of Pro Mist filters I've seen so far. Great breakdown with perfect, side by side examples that explain the concept in a way that is easy to understand for someone just starting on this subject. Thank you!
So I’m only 3min into this video and this is already the best video on the subject. So many other pro mist filter videos have been essentially an ad for a certain brand, or just not exploring their full use or usefulness. This is fantastic and helpful. Thanks!
@@ohroonoko Yeah I didn't understand that was a ® but still, this video was more helpful than others I watched at the time. And now I have a 1/4 filter (thats honestly way too much if we're being honest!)
Amazing comparisons between a few scenes and the practicality, I think I'm going with the 1/8 as it adds a light bloom, cinematic soft flare, diminishes harsh highlights, without losing too much detail from the digital perspective, the balance between digital and cinematic film like! 1/8 is it for me!
I've been using an 82mm 1/4 and LOVE it for music videos and short films, but we recently did a maternity photo shoot for my girlfriend with it in a field close to sunset and learned a valuable lesson. lol We lost a TON of details and had to do a lot of reconstruction with her face, so I'm thinking I might grab a 1/8 for outside shoots and when the 1/4 might be too much.
for 82 mm 1/4 is too much. 1/8 is fine. wider the lens, the effect is less. so for wide lens you need 1/4 and for 82 mm. you have to step down . this is what i read in one of user comment
Wish they would make a 1/6th strength :D. 1/8 seems sometimes too subtle and 1/4 often too strong. Guess I'll go with 1/8th. Thanks for making the video, really helpful.
no, seriously, this is the EASIEST, CHEAPEST way to instantly make your footage have that look that most people see all the time but don't actually know how to get it. diffusion is huge in film. great video!!
This is why I like my vintage Nikkor AI/AI-s lenses. Sharp enough, but smooth and creamy right in the optics. It's not quite the same effect necessarily, but it really depends on the individual lenses. They all tend to flare more than modern glass. There's SO many classic lenses you can get for so cheap that can be adapted to most cameras these days. Just find the set that gives you the look you want.
For anyone who is interested; when Tiffen created Pro Mist filters they created the different strengths in order to provide a consistent level of filtration across the range of focal lengths because the filtration effect increases as the focal length of the lens becomes more telephoto. A 1/4 pro mist (black or white) will be much stronger on an 85mm lens than it will be on a 25mm lens. A common formula for using Pro Mist filters is 1/2 for 18mm and wider, the 1/4 for 25-35mm and 1/8 for 50mm and above. This principle applies to all diffusion filters. I hope this information is useful.
Best comparison I have seen so far and I have watched everything about this now on TH-cam. I have a A7iii with 18-35mm and will be getting the Tiffen 1/4 after this!
I just picked one up for my 35mm SLR and I am really excited to use it for these similar looks. Congratulations on 1000 subscribers....up to 71k only 6 months later!
Oh man i just started following your channel and just when I was looking into buying a black mist filter your suggestion came up. Your content is so helpful and straight to the point. Appreciate your awesome work :)
I wish I knew about BPM's sooner! I added one to my arsenal (1/4) earlier this year and it never leaves my lens! Recently shot a wedding with one on an old Nikon 50/1.8 and loved the footage. Honestly, I've been shooting stills with it on as well. You're letting the secret out! Ha, great video - perfect comparison at 3:55
I just want to keep watching your videos whole day. Just after watching 3 videos I feel it’s so easy because I always use to be scared of lighting and looks. You made it so easyyyy ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much! I was thinking about getting a fujifilm to get this filmish look, but it’s WAY TOO EXPENSIVE… so this will be a cute starter compromise! This video was great! Now teach us how to colorgrade in that beautiful style of yours 😂
great video man. I was needing help figuring out what strength of BPM to get. This video showed the comparisons without beating around the bush. Thanks man. Keep them coming.
Hi Brady. Thanks for the the info and especially the examples. I liked that you had real work examples without people and with people (your girlfriend). I bought the 1/4 filter to start with as i like the halation it produces more than the 1/8, although I can see ways to use the 1/8 as well, which I may purchase at a later date once I get used to using these filters. Take care, and hi from Canada! All the best to you.
Great info Brady. One question though: What are your thoughts on "stacking" an ND filter over the 1/8 Pro-Mist? I hear mixed opinions on the matter. Thanks.
I got the 1/8 and learned that it gets stronger as the focal length increases. So if you are shooting between 16-35mm the best one will be 1/4 and if shooting 35mm and over the 1/8 is better cause it gets more intense the higher the focal length is. Unless of course you are going for specifics too. But the 1/4 on 70mm next to light in back light or so was way to strong i thought. Hard to explain i guess but i think its good to own both 1/8 and 1/4. I think the 1/8 is more versatile and is the sweet spot in my opinion
@@GuardUpQuis it depends on strength you need. I think the safe way to start is 1/8. Cause if u zoom in to 70mm i think will work better but all depends the look u are going for the 1/8 for my 24-105 is great. Up to you. Good luck
@@armando.visuals My favorite lens that I use for almost everything is G-Master 35mm 1.4.. I went with 1/8 because I was worried that 1/4 might have been too much. Hope I made the right decision.
oh i noticed it is not pro mist Black version because the black color of her hair is complete changed at 3:09, i guess the black version maintain black better, beautiful video bro
Will a ProMist work together with a variable ND-filter? I shoot a lot with variable-ND and wide open aperture but I have noticed that the variable-ND unfortunately changes the image characteristics, such as increasing the contrast just slightly. Do you think there may be problems by combining ProMist and variable-ND?
The best video that I have ever see for those filters. I have one Question. I have a 77mm nd variable filter on my lens. I must buy the same diameter mm(77 to be specific) for the mist pro filter? (because you say that the correct order is: camera lens-pro mist-nd variable ) thanks! Your answer will be very helpful
Love the BPM! A cine buddy of mine turned me on to them a handful of years ago. Been using them on almost all my photoshoots in varying strengths. I am curious about the different Tiffen diffusion filtration. Esp the warm black pro mist 🤔
Thanks for this. Really nice and clear and one of those things that makes all the difference to a final piece. Guess I'm gonna have to bite the bullet!!!
I film weddings with Sony A73's with a NinjaV. I recently purchased a Helios-44M-4 to film certain parts of a wedding, prep, portraits etc... I LOVE the look of this lens. Will the 1/8th give a similar look? I also just bought a Sigma 24-70 f2.8, it sometimes looks too sharp. Great video!
Great 👏🏾 .Question : i Have the iPhone 13 pro max with the anamorphic Lens 1.33 mk2 what model You Think is the best fit between 1/4 & 1/8 for Music video ?in Miami
Looks great! Would you the 1/8 or 1/4 be suitable for corporate interview type of shoots? I'm wondering if it would make the brighter office scene look a little artificial...
Hi Brady. Quick question: If you don't use a filter for the entire shoot (as you seem to suggest), then wouldn't the film look inconsistent throughout? It would look soft in some parts and noticeably sharper in others.
So you’ve got the Black Pro Mist 1/8 on during the talking parts? Any other tips on how you’re getting that softened look and mellow colors? I was searching around for someone who already achieved the general look I’m shooting for, and this is very close! Any tech tips appreciated.
Hi, great video and thanks for the info. I am currently using the pro mist 1/4 with my GH5. I have my natural profile set to low sharpening in the settings. Should I put my setting back to normal and then use the pro mist or keep my in camera settings to low sharpening with the pro mist on top?
For anyone who is interested; when Tiffen created Pro Mist filters they created the different strengths in order to provide a consistent level of filtration across the range of focal lengths because the filtration effect increases as the focal length of the lens becomes more telephoto. A 1/4 pro mist (black or white) will be much stronger on an 85mm lens than it will be on a 25mm lens. A common formula for using Pro Mist filters is 1/2 for 18mm and wider, the 1/4 for 25-35mm and 1/8 for 50mm and above. This principle applies to all diffusion filters. I hope this information is useful.
Wow I didn’t know this. Thanks! Good thing I got the right one haha Weeks ago I bought Tiffen black pro mist 1/4 for my sony 35mm g master lens… I like the effects it gives to my images.
Useful, thanks.
so helpful 🎉
Thank you for saying, I didn’t know that
apsc or full frame, does this matter?
Best explanation of Pro Mist filters I've seen so far. Great breakdown with perfect, side by side examples that explain the concept in a way that is easy to understand for someone just starting on this subject. Thank you!
If my lens filter size is 52 mm (Front), i need to buy 52mm ND? Or bigger so it can fit onto the lens correctly?
So I’m only 3min into this video and this is already the best video on the subject. So many other pro mist filter videos have been essentially an ad for a certain brand, or just not exploring their full use or usefulness. This is fantastic and helpful. Thanks!
Pro-Mist® is a registered trademark for Tiffen’s black diffusion filters, so this is literally an ad for a certain brand.
@@ohroonoko Yeah I didn't understand that was a ® but still, this video was more helpful than others I watched at the time. And now I have a 1/4 filter (thats honestly way too much if we're being honest!)
Amazing comparisons between a few scenes and the practicality, I think I'm going with the 1/8 as it adds a light bloom, cinematic soft flare, diminishes harsh highlights, without losing too much detail from the digital perspective, the balance between digital and cinematic film like! 1/8 is it for me!
I've been using an 82mm 1/4 and LOVE it for music videos and short films, but we recently did a maternity photo shoot for my girlfriend with it in a field close to sunset and learned a valuable lesson. lol We lost a TON of details and had to do a lot of reconstruction with her face, so I'm thinking I might grab a 1/8 for outside shoots and when the 1/4 might be too much.
for 82 mm 1/4 is too much. 1/8 is fine. wider the lens, the effect is less. so for wide lens you need 1/4 and for 82 mm. you have to step down . this is what i read in one of user comment
Here I am trying to buy the sharpest lenses possible only to then add a pro must filter. 😂
Yep thats interesting hahah
You must be from NZ 🇳🇿🤙🏾
Wish they would make a 1/6th strength :D. 1/8 seems sometimes too subtle and 1/4 often too strong. Guess I'll go with 1/8th. Thanks for making the video, really helpful.
Haha! Well 1/8 does fantastic trust me
I agree with this comment 100% lol
stack two 1/8s
@@justanotheryoutubeuploader That would be a 1/4 with more flare and less resolution, lol.
Can we use the ND filter along with the pro mist filter?
no, seriously, this is the EASIEST, CHEAPEST way to instantly make your footage have that look that most people see all the time but don't actually know how to get it.
diffusion is huge in film. great video!!
This is why I like my vintage Nikkor AI/AI-s lenses. Sharp enough, but smooth and creamy right in the optics. It's not quite the same effect necessarily, but it really depends on the individual lenses. They all tend to flare more than modern glass. There's SO many classic lenses you can get for so cheap that can be adapted to most cameras these days. Just find the set that gives you the look you want.
Nikkor 🤣
Tbh this is essential to make digital photography look good.
I,m sold.. it makes it look so beautiful.
For anyone who is interested; when Tiffen created Pro Mist filters they created the different strengths in order to provide a consistent level of filtration across the range of focal lengths because the filtration effect increases as the focal length of the lens becomes more telephoto. A 1/4 pro mist (black or white) will be much stronger on an 85mm lens than it will be on a 25mm lens. A common formula for using Pro Mist filters is 1/2 for 18mm and wider, the 1/4 for 25-35mm and 1/8 for 50mm and above. This principle applies to all diffusion filters. I hope this information is useful.
Best comparison I have seen so far and I have watched everything about this now on TH-cam. I have a A7iii with 18-35mm and will be getting the Tiffen 1/4 after this!
love being your model 🖤
No one does it better!!!!
Are you guys dating? 😍
We all love it 🤭
@@coffeecup2191 you're the sweetest
You're so pretty 😳😳😳
I just picked one up for my 35mm SLR and I am really excited to use it for these similar looks. Congratulations on 1000 subscribers....up to 71k only 6 months later!
Hey Brady, after I watched this. I bought the filter without thinking if I need it now or not. Damn, your reviews are sooo good.
Hey that’s the goal lol
Thank you
Excellent video Brady. I guess the 1/8 looks more realistic to me.. very nice
I think so too! I usually use that!
I just wanted this very informative video. Thanks you so much.
It's funny that you say nearly at 1000 subs, but now you're at 403k. Congratulations!
Oh man i just started following your channel and just when I was looking into buying a black mist filter your suggestion came up. Your content is so helpful and straight to the point. Appreciate your awesome work :)
Thank you so much!! Hope you enjoy !
I wish I knew about BPM's sooner! I added one to my arsenal (1/4) earlier this year and it never leaves my lens! Recently shot a wedding with one on an old Nikon 50/1.8 and loved the footage. Honestly, I've been shooting stills with it on as well. You're letting the secret out! Ha, great video - perfect comparison at 3:55
Thank you for this! I love the look of it especially on vintage glass !
I just want to keep watching your videos whole day. Just after watching 3 videos I feel it’s so easy because I always use to be scared of lighting and looks. You made it so easyyyy ❤️❤️❤️
I’ll try and make them faster!!!!
3 years ago, he talked about being excited to get to 1k subs now my guy is at 147k (September,2023). Hats off to you my sir👍🏼
Nice breakdown! Couldn't decide between the 1/8 & 1/4, but thanks to your video I now know that 1/8 is for me 👍🏻
That’s awesome!! Thanks!!
@@BradyBessette I bought the 1/8 based on this video and honestly, It didn't make any difference, it was like, the same thing without the filter!
@@CarolMiranda94 buy 1/4
@@CarolMiranda94 for wide angle 1/8 has less power. for zoom lens, 1/8 has that effect
Sick, dude! Legit convinced me to get that 1/4th pro mist filter.
Ahhahaha that’s what it’s all about! Thank you
This came in clutch man! Appreciate you providing so many real world examples too.
Thank you so much! Glad it helps
Hello, if I have a sigma 18 35, which filter should I buy or if I have a super takuma
Doing my research and this video put me over the edge. Just bought one.
Been watching your videos... Really love the way you light. Subscribed.
Thank you tons!
Thank you so much! I was thinking about getting a fujifilm to get this filmish look, but it’s WAY TOO EXPENSIVE… so this will be a cute starter compromise! This video was great! Now teach us how to colorgrade in that beautiful style of yours 😂
For some reason I always want to listen to the Bee Gees right after watching your videos...
You know, safe to say that’s a first!!!
Bee Gees are the best!!!
Andy Gibb?
Less than 1k subscribers at the time of this video and now at 158k. Solid work my man.
almost to 1,000 subscribers, look at you now buddy. 147,000
Massive accomplishment!
Where have you been all my life pro-mists? Love your videos mate! I shoot stills down here in Australia, I'm always battling the sun. Thank you!
Go get em!! Thank you!
That tip about getting the size of your biggest lens and just getting step down ring... saved my ass
this was realy helpful , so cool man ur getting better in every video !
Thank you a ton
Awesome comparison! I just wish you had shown which filter and camera setup you used..
I have achieved going to the next level on Cinematography thanks to this guy
Definitely copping the 1/8. Thanks for the video fam.
Best explanation of the effect I've seen, thanks. Gonna get the 1/4
Good explanation with the all important side by side comparisons! Thank you!
great video man. I was needing help figuring out what strength of BPM to get. This video showed the comparisons without beating around the bush. Thanks man. Keep them coming.
that's exactly my goal!! thank you
Hey Brady,
Thanks for the contents. Subbed. Love the humble and laid back personality!
Thank you so much and welcome
woah "we are almost to a thousand" you are at 144,000 now haha great job man!
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Very pleasing to watch and follow, plenty of useful examples!
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Hi Brady. Thanks for the the info and especially the examples. I liked that you had real work examples without people and with people (your girlfriend). I bought the 1/4 filter to start with as i like the halation it produces more than the 1/8, although I can see ways to use the 1/8 as well, which I may purchase at a later date once I get used to using these filters. Take care, and hi from Canada! All the best to you.
hello in Canada from the US! Thank you so much! ProMist is great ! hope you like it!
Perfect review, i finally decided to 1/4
love my 1/4!! congrats!
I didn't know the Nickelback singer has a TH-cam video channel. Nice video Chad !
Thanks dude!!! Next time can you look at this photograph???
@@BradyBessette 🤣🤣🤣
nice video man and all i was looking for. thanks a lot
Recently bought the Promist 1/8 & 1/4 and very rarely take them off. Nice piece...
They’re so fun aren’t they!
@@BradyBessette yeah...love the edge they take off digital footage
Awesome content brotha! Very nice breakdown!
Thank you kindly!!
Great info Brady. One question though: What are your thoughts on "stacking" an ND filter over the 1/8 Pro-Mist? I hear mixed opinions on the matter. Thanks.
I typically do that, experience SOME ghosting in direct light but haven't had extreme issues
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Thanks, I impulsively bought both. Think I'll grab a glimmer glass too.
I love my glimmer glass too!
I got the 1/8 and learned that it gets stronger as the focal length increases. So if you are shooting between 16-35mm the best one will be 1/4 and if shooting 35mm and over the 1/8 is better cause it gets more intense the higher the focal length is. Unless of course you are going for specifics too. But the 1/4 on 70mm next to light in back light or so was way to strong i thought. Hard to explain i guess but i think its good to own both 1/8 and 1/4. I think the 1/8 is more versatile and is the sweet spot in my opinion
What if I have a 24-70?
@@GuardUpQuis it depends on strength you need. I think the safe way to start is 1/8. Cause if u zoom in to 70mm i think will work better but all depends the look u are going for the 1/8 for my 24-105 is great. Up to you. Good luck
What if I shoot 35mm 😅
@@MichaelRemyXD Id go 1/4 but you can even add more in post if you want to use 1/8 and bump it up a bit
@@armando.visuals My favorite lens that I use for almost everything is G-Master 35mm 1.4.. I went with 1/8 because I was worried that 1/4 might have been too much. Hope I made the right decision.
I recently received a black pro mist filter and I'm working on doing a video soon about using one with photography.
Class dismist ;) nice 1. You gained 118k subscribers since this upload. Sick
Thanks for the vid. Will you make a comparison video on Tiffen black satin or glimmerglass, please.
Your vids are a vibe man, thank you
My pleasure!
4:17 wow 🤩 what a shot
Is the Tiffen 55mm Black Pro-Mist 1/4 Filter
Stackable? Like does it have threading so I can put another filter on it?
Good video, thanks. It would be useful to make a follow up video showing the filters being used at night.
Dayum 3 weeks ago you said almost 1k subscribers.. congrats on 17k right now haha
Hahaha right?! Thanks Simon
oh i noticed it is not pro mist Black version because the black color of her hair is complete changed at 3:09, i guess the black version maintain black better, beautiful video bro
Will a ProMist work together with a variable ND-filter?
I shoot a lot with variable-ND and wide open aperture but I have noticed that the variable-ND
unfortunately changes the image characteristics, such as increasing the contrast just slightly.
Do you think there may be problems by combining ProMist and variable-ND?
Waiting on this reply
Very clear vid, and i think it works just the same with stills, right?!
It does!! Thank you so much
Great video man! Definitely interested now in keeping one in my bag. Love the way the highlight Roll off looks with it.
Well thank you Jon for this!!
really cool! What do you think about adding a pro mist filter to an action camera like the insta 360 ace pro?
The 1/8 is perfect
I agree!! Love it
Thank you for sharing brother. As always, love your videos
Making my heart warm!! Thank you
Just followed you on ig! Would love to get your opinion on my work🤗
Let’s talk!!
Bro, I just discovered you and your channel today! You have all the info, all in one channel! Like we share the same brain! Lol. Subbed for life! 😝
Welcome to the family!!!
Great breakdown! Thanks for the info!
The best video that I have ever see for those filters. I have one Question. I have a 77mm nd variable filter on my lens. I must buy the same diameter mm(77 to be specific) for the mist pro filter? (because you say that the correct order is: camera lens-pro mist-nd variable ) thanks! Your answer will be very helpful
Excellent comparisons. I have subscribed!
Awesome, thank you! welcome!
Love the BPM! A cine buddy of mine turned me on to them a handful of years ago. Been using them on almost all my photoshoots in varying strengths. I am curious about the different Tiffen diffusion filtration. Esp the warm black pro mist 🤔
Yeah they are fantastic. Of course other brands may have better options but it’s the best quality for the price
Thanks for the tips Brady!
You’re welcome John!!
Thanks for the video, it's well done. When will use black promist instead of just promist?
I prefer BPM !
Just bought some items from your Amazon list. Thanks for the info.
you're videos are super helpful, subscribed.
Thanks for this. Really nice and clear and one of those things that makes all the difference to a final piece. Guess I'm gonna have to bite the bullet!!!
I film weddings with Sony A73's with a NinjaV. I recently purchased a Helios-44M-4 to film certain parts of a wedding, prep, portraits etc... I LOVE the look of this lens. Will the 1/8th give a similar look? I also just bought a Sigma 24-70 f2.8, it sometimes looks too sharp. Great video!
It can in the sense of contrast, although the Helios has very unique flaring and imperfections
@@BradyBessette thanks. Not sure if 1/8 or 1/4? I’m leaning 1/8th
I would say 1/8 first, more versatile. Upgrade to stronger down the line when you want the occasional soft look
Literally about to order one now !
this was a great vibe video
wow, such a great video man! Love it! and congrats on your subs! well deserved!
Thanks a ton!
Great 👏🏾 .Question : i Have the iPhone 13 pro max with the anamorphic Lens 1.33 mk2 what model You Think is the best fit between 1/4 & 1/8 for Music video ?in Miami
Very good explanation, thank you ❤
Great video. Thank you so much! It’s so hard to pick between 1/8 and 1/4. Might have to get both!! Lol.
Looks great! Would you the 1/8 or 1/4 be suitable for corporate interview type of shoots? I'm wondering if it would make the brighter office scene look a little artificial...
Hey I would say 1/8 at MOST for that, those kind of shoots most clients like sharpness!
@@BradyBessette Thanks, much appreciated!
Aaaaaand SUBSCRIBE 😂. This was awesome - thanks so much for your work!!
Welcome to the classroom!! Thank you
@@BradyBessette are you in Vermont? Please dm me on Twitter about doing a project together?
I don’t use Twitter! Find me on ig! :)
Hi Brady. Quick question: If you don't use a filter for the entire shoot (as you seem to suggest), then wouldn't the film look inconsistent throughout? It would look soft in some parts and noticeably sharper in others.
You could use it for more dreamy parts of a story.
@@ezrarichardson279 Thank you! Good idea.
@@MrPoetemaudit No problem!
Amazing work bro... thanks for the tips... I will be putting them in practice and tag you when is up online
Thank you so much!
Very awesome. Keep up the good work sir.
I appreciate this so much thank you Bob!
Nice video and beautiful music! 🎵
you really have a quality content,
Thank you !
He got the product wrong
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So you’ve got the Black Pro Mist 1/8 on during the talking parts? Any other tips on how you’re getting that softened look and mellow colors? I was searching around for someone who already achieved the general look I’m shooting for, and this is very close! Any tech tips appreciated.
Hi, great video and thanks for the info. I am currently using the pro mist 1/4 with my GH5. I have my natural profile set to low sharpening in the settings. Should I put my setting back to normal and then use the pro mist or keep my in camera settings to low sharpening with the pro mist on top?
I usually keep in camera sharp off actually and sharpen in post!
Yessir! Those pro mist filters 🙌🏾👍🏾
They’re great!!
we like your tutorial and need to learn how you grade your shot and also how to cobine lighting colors with gell
I'll try and put it together!! Thank you!
have u ever used pro mist 1 filter? awesome comparison
lovely video, thanks for the great comparison!
Thank you!!!