LOOK whats inside these new FORD filters | FL-2051 vs FL-2124

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  • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
    @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  ปีที่แล้ว +4

    these poor keyboard warriors
    th-cam.com/users/shortsE43XPBl1K9s

  • @Mr42960
    @Mr42960 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I hate to correct a master tech, but I'm pretty certain the dirty oil enters the outside of the pleats and the filtered oil exits through the center. This is why the center of the pleats has a perforated metal cylinder, to resist the pleats from collapsing with the direction of flow.

  • @gargar8196
    @gargar8196 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Put the cutter in the vise and use a oil filter wrench to spin the filter

  • @arizonalifestylechannel2186
    @arizonalifestylechannel2186 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had my parts Dept get me a few oil filters for my 6.7 from the Ford dealership next door, come to find that is the new filter. I have one on my truck now after doing my first LOF

  • @herveyforward5956
    @herveyforward5956 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for the comparison. Ford is finally trying to catch up to our Amsoil full flow

  • @chainweight6203
    @chainweight6203 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Did my oil change last week. Went to Amazon, long wait for 2051, but have the new 2124's available. Didn't trust Amazon, so I walked into O'Reilly, and all they had available were the new 2124 models at the same price as the 2051 for around $22 and some change. Walmart not up to speed yet. So far no problems, 6.7 running great....thx for all the info!

  • @Boogieee215
    @Boogieee215 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My most recent oil change which was about 3 weeks ago was with the new 2124 after doing some research. Was caught off guard when I tried ordering a 2051 like always and received an email they were discontinued. I do enjoy wix filters as well

    • @kellyc2425
      @kellyc2425 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I bet your engine would enjoy the Motorcraft filter more 😊

  • @loganeley2342
    @loganeley2342 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know Arod has been hanging out with the kiddo when he says stuff like "cutty-wuty". Interesting video, thanks for bringing us along. New filter looks like it might be a hair better

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The spring in the bottom is a by-pass spring should your filter get plugged. The oil pressure will push the filter down and flow at the top.

  • @michaelanderson3063
    @michaelanderson3063 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Locally I can only buy my filters from the dealer. There are none in the after market other then on line. The dealer are only selling the 2124 at $40 with tax. I am happy to see that it looks to be a better filter and should help in filtering my 013.

    • @stepfour
      @stepfour ปีที่แล้ว

      You can get the motorcraft filter online from 21 -28 bucks... I'm all for supporting your local business... but, not that much.

  • @dirtdiggler1980
    @dirtdiggler1980 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Something I’d like to add as I was just at the dealer for my filters and I questioned the number change in which they couldn’t explain lol but the price DOUBLED for us up here in Canada 🇨🇦 new number new price I said… but at least with your video I see they have improved it not sure if it’s double but lmao

  • @bajamedic
    @bajamedic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought a 3 pack of Donaldson filters. Great reviews!

  • @davecarroll4086
    @davecarroll4086 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just bought a 12 pk of 2051s @ $16 each... won't have to buy another filter for quite a while.

  • @mjmohn
    @mjmohn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will Walmart take them back now as a return if you have your receipt? Great Video. Cheers.

  • @billspruce8368
    @billspruce8368 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder how these compare to Amsoil filters... I have a three change supply of Amsoil 5w-40 and filters waiting in the wings.

  • @vais3
    @vais3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The FL-2124 is a synthetic media and the OG FL-2051S are a closer to a glass or glass enhanced cellulose media. Both do phenomenal for filtration but the synthetic media flows a bit better.
    These filters should be made by Mann Hummel who bought out both Wix and Purolator. They own a few others as well.
    Micron rating assumed: 20 micron at 95% or better. It’s possible to be 15 micron but we will see once the literature is released.

  • @cwtex59
    @cwtex59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably since the media looks different it’s easier to track any potential problems by changing the numbers. Silicone may also be different or at least different color .

  • @BarnStangz
    @BarnStangz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo mane, thanks for the video, new filter look pretty legit, I'll have to stock up, got a few years worth of 2051's, but I'll have to get the new style... Also, new boots are looking FRESH as well! 128k subs, keep rippin' baby!

  • @magnuseriksson5721
    @magnuseriksson5721 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Intersting material in the FL-2124 filter. i think it have longer filter life

  • @joemolina5215
    @joemolina5215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just got my oil changed at dealership they put a 2124 oil filter that is why I wanted to watch this video

  • @emellina1
    @emellina1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looked identical until you ripped into the Fabric...good comparison.

  • @efaraday4
    @efaraday4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This 2124 looks exactly like the inside of the black filter that comes on the engine from the factory. Wish I took pictures when I cut it open.

  • @nysucks4508
    @nysucks4508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Changed my oil last month and my parts dept had the new filters in stock

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Couldn’t get a FoMoCo filter anywhere last oil change, first time using anything else but it is a WIX. Damn thing was 3 times the price of the FoMoCo.

  • @adrianspeeder
    @adrianspeeder ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FL-1A and FL-1995 for life!

  • @Uncle_Fester24
    @Uncle_Fester24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool video. Your watch is badazz!

  • @TJ-qz6hr
    @TJ-qz6hr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just about had a heart attack after changing the oil in my 6.7. After starting the engine, I just happened to look at the old 2051 filter in the drain pan and the box that the 2124 came in and thought, ohhh sheeeet!!! they gave me the wrong filter!!! I immediately went to a ARod video to see what the deal was? I feel better now.

  • @nobodyhome2318
    @nobodyhome2318 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Motorcraft baby!👍

  • @RayLovesCars
    @RayLovesCars ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh hey I was wondering about this as our dealership finally got some more powerstroke filters, we’ve been stocking Balwin filters because of backorder issues up on the north side of the border

  • @blake8346
    @blake8346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks ARod good video

  • @timf6916
    @timf6916 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, my Ford Dealer does mine. IT BETTER NOT be a copy cat.

  • @TellTheTruth1
    @TellTheTruth1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can see there are more pleats, but how deep do the pleats go? If they don’t go as deep as the first generation oil filter, then there may not be really any difference other than the filter material.

  • @mike-cl1mm
    @mike-cl1mm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the oil goes the other way ! But I believe the reinforcement in the paper is for 100% synthetic oil
    Wix has a special designation for synthetic oil filters as do many other brands , Ford maybe has an all in one kind of deal ? Maybe , maybe not ,,,, but I am sure about 5he oil flow deal,,, love the channel

  • @Cotton088
    @Cotton088 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks like the Purolator BOSS media to me

    • @CPsGarage
      @CPsGarage ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because they are the supplier

  • @BlakeReed18
    @BlakeReed18 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @powerstroketechtalkwarod so would I use the new filter on my 2018 6.7, or stay with the original?
    In the discription it says for '23 6.7's.

  • @louhess6355
    @louhess6355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is bigger always better with oil filters? The reason I asked that is Will that fit a 6.2 gasser? Are the threads different? Do the gaskets not match up? I've always liked the idea of running the biggest oil filter I could fit on, more volume of oil the better. Does anyone know why it wouldn't fit.

  • @Duschbag
    @Duschbag ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just a thought... Remove the silly rubber handle from your "CAT" Can Opener, mount that big ass handle in a good Bench Vise... Now you can use TWO hands to rotate the Filter Housing while adjusting the screw clamp putting pressure on the RIDGE BRAND PIPE CUTTER WHEELS... and you'll open it up in less than a minute... No, I'm not a factory trained mechanic but... I have been selling Industrial Tools for over 43 years. 🙂🇺🇸
    I was also a (CMS) Commodity Management Supplier to the St. Louis Ford Assembly Plant for six years.
    I still have my Licence Plate Frame that was given to me by the Tool Stores Manager that reads "I WORK FOR FORD, I DRIVE A FORD"
    I have many great memories from my time working with the people at that plant. It manufacturerd The Ford Aerostar Minivans. 😟
    Then the Explorer's came out along with Mercury Mountaneer and Lincoln Aviator. All different trim levels on a Explorer frame, suspension, engines and transmissions. Just different interiors and exterior trim.
    Sorry....
    I'll shut up now.

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use a large pipe cutter to open my filters. Couldn’t justify the price of the fancy filter cutters.

  • @aiwseman80
    @aiwseman80 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any chance you'd cut a royal purple 40-2051 open too?

  • @Jon-O.
    @Jon-O. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like the new filter has all Synthetic media which gives higher flow rate and smaller micron rating and can hold more contaminates while maintaining the flow rate. The benefits of synthetic media over paper cellulouse media. Its why I stopped using mopar oil filter on my 6.7 Cummins and use the Fleetguard synthetic media or Amsoil's oil filters.

  • @joemolina5215
    @joemolina5215 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope it doesn’t put any restrictions on oil pump

  • @wildmanofthewynooch7028
    @wildmanofthewynooch7028 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The filter media on the new filter is a synthetic media where the old one is cellulose blend. Everything else is the same.

  • @JeepBigE
    @JeepBigE ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have a couple 2051's left before I make the switch on my 2018.

  • @FollowingtheCliffNotes
    @FollowingtheCliffNotes ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Look a notification on the same day wow

    • @jeffburger2782
      @jeffburger2782 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ya i did not even get a notice

    • @FollowingtheCliffNotes
      @FollowingtheCliffNotes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeffburger2782 I haven’t been getting all notifications only some

    • @CPsGarage
      @CPsGarage ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your being watched cliffy wiffy

    • @FollowingtheCliffNotes
      @FollowingtheCliffNotes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CPsGarage possibly. Need to stop watching F r T videos 😂😂

  • @zfilmmaker
    @zfilmmaker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found out about this (time to do an oil change)...the 2124 is double the price.

  • @MrMan5014
    @MrMan5014 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:03 I was always under the impression the oil went the other way…down through the little holes and to the outside of the pleats and into the centre and back up through the big hole…when mechanics cut the filters open to investigate the source of engine failures, always check the outside of the pleats…maybe this one is different but it doesn’t really make sense…🤔

  • @xeutoniumnyborg1192
    @xeutoniumnyborg1192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:10 @ARod My best guess on the numbers on the filter cans is this:
    (Disclaimer, this is Nyborg's SWAG).
    First 4 digits is a lot number.
    Last 5 digits is a sequence number in that filter's production run.
    Again, just my guess. Good info today!

  • @kellyc2425
    @kellyc2425 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perhaps easier to clamp cutting jig to work bench, then use a strap wrench on the filter

  • @bob_frazier
    @bob_frazier ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the new (FL2124s) come with the info directly printed on the white metal filter or is it a stick on label? The old (FL2051s) has it's label directly printed on the metal filter, right? Could these be fakes from Amazon?

  • @davidwysocki143
    @davidwysocki143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The date code starts with the second digit. The filter in your left hand date is 02-11-22. The right hand filter is 09-15-22. Don't know what the other digits mean, possibly production numbers such as shift, batch, line or run numbers.

  • @DannyDelawder
    @DannyDelawder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got 2 2051s at walmart did not see any 2124

  • @georgejacobs3938
    @georgejacobs3938 ปีที่แล้ว

    What filter wrench do you use and a part number for it

  • @jkcook626
    @jkcook626 ปีที่แล้ว

    how does Ford oem 2051 compare to Wix and Fleetgard for quality???

  • @barrywhitley2535
    @barrywhitley2535 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First time and last time watching this channel. Is this guy really a Ford technician? God help us.

  • @Jewalston
    @Jewalston ปีที่แล้ว

    Aaron,
    What is the part number for the PCCV air oil separator on a 2023 F250 Crew Cab 6.7L. I want to change the one on my 2021.

  • @TonyBenton0728
    @TonyBenton0728 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am using the K&N HP 4005 10 mc now over the 20 mc Motorcraft . The last Ford mechanic didn’t remove the old gasket and put the new filter on top of the old gasket leaked like crazy. Am I correct the Motorcraft filter is 20 mc ?

    • @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq
      @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m always flabbergasted when people double gasket. I mean yeah, maybe my incompetent neighbor did it, but it should never happen to someone who changes oil filters for a living

  • @pmiller7886
    @pmiller7886 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks pretty legit, gotta look up the price.

  • @davidwysocki143
    @davidwysocki143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it's not a rubber anti drain back valve...it is a silicone anti drain back valve. It says right on the box above the part number "silicone valve". Also the letter S at the end of the part number means it is a silicone valve filter.

  • @logangaskins9003
    @logangaskins9003 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outside of a simple answer like “use the oem”
    Is a cat filter better than a motorcraft?
    I’d Love to run cat filters

  • @jmadams75
    @jmadams75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Off topic. 2022 King Ranch Tremor... My lane keep assist completely disappeared from my dash and I can't get it to come back. I can change settings but i can't get it back up on the display. Anyone else?

  • @kingranch8516
    @kingranch8516 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Waiting for you to say oh gravity

  • @coryjohnson3946
    @coryjohnson3946 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Caaaaaan you say….purolator !😂

    • @CPsGarage
      @CPsGarage ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup they are 100% sure the supplier

  • @jimmyaber5920
    @jimmyaber5920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does this new oil filter make CP4.2 pumps last?

  • @kendavis1198
    @kendavis1198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMSOIL FILTER In a FORD Canister??? How Much was that BABY???

  • @williamsantiago7303
    @williamsantiago7303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That glue job looks cheap. Did the country of manufacture change?

  • @gorbyagusta7076
    @gorbyagusta7076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got the flow direction wrong.

  • @Go2Sleep911
    @Go2Sleep911 ปีที่แล้ว

    My question would be is using the 2051 ok i still have a few around. Will warranty work be denied if using the old filter? I mean it shouldn’t with the magnuson moss act, but I Got a free Amsoil eo98 with my was oil order so was going to us that one up.

  • @jrh4187
    @jrh4187 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😎😳😊😎

  • @g-man2228
    @g-man2228 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sooo, longer oil life, or no?!? 👊🏻

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I clicked away after he said the oil flows from the middle to the outside. Before that, he was uncertain of the anti-drainback valve. Nope.

  • @DesertJeff
    @DesertJeff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instead of eight holes, they now have five elongated holes

  • @ryanfriedrich7202
    @ryanfriedrich7202 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amsoil my choice over all of these bottom metal flat spring in these is horrible

  • @rbhe357
    @rbhe357 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new model is so much more exactly the same .

  • @TellTheTruth1
    @TellTheTruth1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s more like a pipe cutter been a can opener. Just saying.

    • @akbychoice
      @akbychoice ปีที่แล้ว

      I use a pipe cutter.

  • @scha0786
    @scha0786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Come on son, get some micrometers to give some science to it

  • @davidmills4346
    @davidmills4346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMSOIL Bypass

  • @lalo1424
    @lalo1424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video was a waste of time.

  • @matthewyates3230
    @matthewyates3230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just did my oil change today and last night kinda just found out they had a replacement filter. Actually relieved you did a video on it because I wasnt sure if I was retarded and put the wrong filter on my truck. : p

  • @gregorywheeler69
    @gregorywheeler69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm wondering which country made each filter

  • @717weston2
    @717weston2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stock a lot of the filters for 6.7 but I buy from Ford dealer probably counterfeit 😊

  • @Dirtymaxhdt
    @Dirtymaxhdt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pos ford is still gonna blow up. They should have made it like this in the first place.

  • @gregorywheeler69
    @gregorywheeler69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is each one made

  • @matthewyates3230
    @matthewyates3230 ปีที่แล้ว

    New filters are made of snake skin on the inside eh