Pantheon HS3 and the BOFA Filtration system - RAPID+TCT 2023
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No apron, polo shirt and a plain hat!? What alien has abducted our Nero and replaced him with a doppelgänger? 😂
That HS3 would look really nice next to your Ratrig and Vorons. :)
It feels kind of dirty that they're using so many parts/ideas/innovations from the open-source reprap community, yet they went and patented their moving-bed concept...
I may be ignorant, but why would anyone pay 10Gs for an FDM printer?
That pantheon printer is sweet.
I wonder what Pantheon is doing to handle their remote access. Them having remote access could be great or vital for some customers, but it's also an immediate security concern for most organizations.
Maybe VPN
I use Tailscale to remoter monitor mine and it's very easy, perhaps they just have a paid account.
You can do remote access that's effectively customer approved. Lots of enterprise gear allows you to do a support tunnel that will VPN back to the OEM and allow them in and has a finite timeout, or even just a 'no remote access unless I push this button, which opens access on a random port that you give to support and also times out after 2 hours'. I've also seen where enabling remote access generates the password used for remote access, which you have to give to support. That account and password are generated at the time of button push and destroyed when the tunnel is closed.
security by bigtreetek??
I imagine that they'd work with the IT folks at the customer's prem for access. Speaking as a network engineer, whenever one of our equipment vendors needs access to one of our devices, he/she/they are granted a VPN login that has access to only that one device, or to a few devices (depending on what's going on).
cool video mvh Lasse
Finally answered the age old question of "what's BOFA?"
Looks great, but they need to strengthen their frame.
real nice! trade shows have really advanced since the first xy belted machine/riprap! impressive! 🖖🥳
Awesome video buddy, I just need to win the lotto and buy me a pantheon now 😂
If love one of these. Being s machine designer for 20 years is more inline with how is design things.
Now it just needs to be developed with more materials and a larger mms would be nice.
No belts, sign me up.
Pantheon HS3 I like it .... clearpath servos ballscrews it really has everything a printer doesn't need.
I have some idea for the Pantheon HS4 it should use linear motors and use a titanium frame.
So the BOFA is basically like the Nevermore Max, then. Interesting.
fume extractor probably worth 6 month lease of any garage where you wouldn't care plus will lease a workshop :))
Why is the end of the ballscrew not supported in a bearing? @ 3min 15 sec
It's short enough to not need that
So heavily built, with thick rails and ballscrews, but yet uses Slice hotend...?
BOFA deez nuts lmao
The build reminds me of a MakerGear printer. I think their Ultra One is very similar to this except it is also an IDEX. (I think MakerGear is barely holding on to staying in business.) This Pantheon is such a massive printer for such a relatively small build volume and not actively heated, which seems like a real missed opportunity. I would be worried about the BTT board but I guess the QC has improved enough. I honestly don't see much of difference between this printer and say, a Voron with similar build volume, enclosed, and around a quarter of the price with top-spec'd BOM with lots of QOL improvements (or less than a fifth of the price with standard BOM). I guess the money is spent on the R&D and labor. Still, at the end of the day, what are you really getting for your 10-grand investment (serious question)?
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What Slicer Software does it Use?
any of them, although i believe they have either a cura or prusa profile premade for the printer
I think this machine would do great in an inverted setup - mount that aluminum plate to some strong feet and turn the machine upside down - remove most of vibrations and have incredibly rigid system
I would buy that shirt. Why is the merch so generic when they have these cool under armor shirts. :)
We did a group order for the team last year for mrrf so there not an off the shelf store item
Lmao BOFA
...deez...
@@CL-gq3no Nuts
Hmm shakes a bit to much for me. Hmm moved over to Industrial Ethernet 2-wire, instead if CAN bandwidth isn’t that big..
For the filter how cheap and how does it compare to other companies?
Overbuilt for FDM. A tank of a printer for flimsy plastic parts. If it was a CNC, more power to them, but for FDM? The part gets wet and deforms more than the accuracy of the printer. Why would I not get an SLS if I want to spend that much more?
What they have is the typical engineer's startup idea: built something that's super cool but not what people need. Which part can this thing print that an X1 Carbon or Qidi can't?
Being overbuilt also brings in a ton of reliability. If your work is dependant on accurate, fast repeatable prints that cannot fail. Using high end components like ball screws can be worth kt
What does BOFA stand for?
Breath Of Fresh Air
or so im told
@@CanuckCreator sure it's not bofa deez nuts?
Too bad it doesn't have an active heated chamber, 45C for a closed chamber is enough for carbon fiber based filaments, but not for regular nylon and ABS. For 10k I would go for the Mosaic Element HT, but I really like how sturdy robust it is and how easy it would be to maintain, just add an active heated chamber to that beauty
does Stratsys still have that patent? maybe they ask absurdly high fees. Or just refuse to license to anyone who might become a competitor.
the thing I get foggy on with patents is could a company offer something like that BOFA as an accessory except that is also capable of heating up a chamber and skirt the patent because its not the printer heating the air its the filtration system
@@filanfyretracker Patent expired recently IIRC
"Love" how proud he is of his patented bed mounting system but I can't find any source for the modifications they did to klipper. Hope I just missed it and they're not just another asshole company.
Umm I think your mis understanding that entire comment. It's about the mechanical construction of the printer. Nothing to do with the firmware
@@CanuckCreator No, I understood. I'm just annoyed that on one hand they use klipper because the codebase is nice and their programmers work easier with it but on the other hand they're proud of the patented bed mounting system which will block everyone from replicating for 20 years. I checked their website, I checked github, I googled a bit and it seems they didn't release their modifications. In my (random guy from the internet) point of view, that makes them assholes !
They didnt modify anything?
They developed their own style of a frame assembly method using a common plate with everything mounted off that that is explained in the video and i do believe they are patneting that aspect, but in terms of modify anything let alone klipper, thats not true at all.
@@CanuckCreator Not to dig on Pantheon, but @wtfgogu does have a point, they deserve the same scrutiny that you give Creality and Qidi. If they didn't modify anything, why was it important that the code base was easy for their developers to work with?
@@miklschmidt From my chat on the floor, it was more so just doing configuration changes and adapting things do their specific use case using the tools klipper already had available. I can ask them to clarify it more, but my understanding was they are just running normal off the shelf klipper with their own configs
3:15 what the fuck about that is patented? it's a plate with some linear bearings and a ball nut through it.
Dont think its actually patented, more just using the expression
Why not vent to the outside instead of spending endless money on a filter?
Heat recovery is the only thing I can think of.
This is the main point, and depending on setup/location venting to outside isnt always viable
Directly venting outside certain materials can also be illegal in some countries.
Damn.. thats some slow printing. No wonder as it's so heavy. Not to mention if printing CF, the rails and ball screw will be toast after 2000 hrs.
BTT boards on a 10K printer? No ofence but yikes
BTT makes hobbyist boards but they lack serious security and reliability features
For this usecase it does make a bit of sense as alot of stuff ISNT done on the board, they have seperate, self designed power management and servo control boards.
With klipper, theres no real performance difference between controllers so they are less important, so basically as long as it works, spending more money doesnt really BUY you anything more
ofc n1
coool.......300 members yt had a break lol but so close nice video again....now that cnc stuff lays in other room i wanna try other thing then belts cool
Nice an overpriced printer that does nothing special and is too heavy for high speed.
Tell me you dont understand servo driven ballscrews and their capabilities in the shortest was possible....GO!
@@CanuckCreator damn 😂