Same. I'll give it a listen, but after hearing 3 or 4 others go on about the printer, they sound roughly the same. All in the name of not losing a sponsorship, and doing a disservice to their fan base. Because, money and free stuff.
I bought a Prusa back in 2014 when they where just taking off. Still works great. I do have to manually level the bed. I use Blender to create the parts I want to print. Blender does have a learning curve but well worth it in the end.
@@eviltango It's free for one. They have a plethora of tutorials out there that helped me learn. It's an extremely powerful program that I barley scratch the surface. They have updated to even a whole new screen set. But I still use 2.79 and it does what I need it to do. From making my 3D for printing or 2D for my CNC.
Finally someone that understands that 3D printers are a tool. So many 3D printing channels treat it like its the endgame where as for the rest of us its the starting point
It is good that we have here great people who use 3d printing... for what? If you can not use screwdriver, why do you need 3d printer? What for? To print Anime figures? Why even bother, just order one on a print farm. No?
Depends on the person. I like it as a tool, I rather spend my time modeling, than working the printer. For my brother, who has always been about tinkering with stuff, likes changing everything up, and than rarely use it. There is no right or wrong, but I will say this, yes there is a lot of content out there how you can improve your printer etc, but let's be honest, what other videos should they make? Do 3d model reviews? Sure some storage systems etc get some attention, but aside from that, people want to know more about their printer. And even if you are someone who uses it as a tool, there are still things you want to improve about your printer, or add some customization to.
Exactly, it is not much different from a CNC mill or router, you get one as a tool to make other things, the CNC mill is not the purpose of getting one, the purpose is to use it to make other things.
@@erikottema2620I have found mine (all p1s) to be rather easy to maintain. there is a little wading through as I resolve some nozzle clog issues, and is worth my time to just quickly swap and then try to figure several at once, and clogs can be a pain but I imagine this is true of any given printer. Have some replacement parts, never needed to touch em and my printers are printing 6-8 hours every day at least with abrasive filament (today all of em have done four prints at 2-3 1/2 hours each, using pla-cf). But have disassembled the whole thing, been figuring out how to clean and maintain em. Isn't hard, mostly just some trouble shooting of exactly what the device could detect is wrong and how that might be solved. I am sure there are easier to maintain, and what isn't available for immediate purchase to replace does seem to have long delays for people, but this has just worked well and frustrations are minor.
As someone looking to move up to bigger and better from their Ender 3, I appreciated this video! I especially appreciated your understanding that I want to 3D print for my hobbies, not as a hobby.
Idk i have an ender 3. But i also have worked on cartesian robots professionally so i guess thats why i feel like upgrading my printer myself rather than buying a new one. Plus it was a gift from my lovely wife.
@@johnhummel99I think is exactly the pseudo divide in the market of consumers. Some people want to buy and play with their machines, while some people just want to use them. I absolutely hate my ender 3 v2, but I dont regret buying it at all.
Great video. One of the best ways to determine how reliable a 3D printer is, put it in a makerspace. There you will get 10's of people who range from noobs, to experts, to people who think they're experts. If the printer can survive a couple weeks, it is remarkable. I agree, the Prusa is considered super reliable, but it was our most troublesome in the makerspace. The TAZ did quite well. A couple months ago we got rid of all the various machines and bought 3 P1Ps. They have been incredible. The only print failures we have seen were do to bad filament, incorrect bed section (wrong temperature) and poorly designed models. No nozzle clogs at all! Everyone is happy with the P1Ps, which is really something in a makerspace with 300 people.
What you said around 1:10 about “why you are here” to print functional stuff…that’s EXACTLY why I am here. I’m new to this and have been researching for 5 weeks…I hope your video lives up to what I need!I’ve already “liked” and will subscribe too if it helps my printer predicament to printer prediction!
I have children that bought a 3d printer personally I didn't see the value in buying something so expensive it seemed like just another complicated toy they wouldn't really use. But now I am researching this because I am making my own sock knitting machine that to buy new would be $1200 but I can make for $60. I love that you mentioned the kit printer because one of the main problems my kids run into is how to problem solve when something goes wrong. I showed them your video and they were really intrigued as am I. Thanks for that.
Honestly, I bought my first printer for 1 purpose and that was to 3D print replacement parts for my RC cars when I broke them. Now, I 3D print and 3D model and make all kinds of things. Specialized tools and jigs, ham radio antenna parts, cases for electronics, tool organizers for all of my drills and batteries, shelf brackets, non conductive nuts/bolts/screws/washers, cable management devices for my racks at work and I even designed and 3D printed my own vertical axis wind turbine as a low cost green energy project. The point is, you start looking at stuff and thinking "I bet I could improve that" or "I bet I could print that" A LOT.
@@DagonNaxosnew to the 3D printing world, I don’t fully understand the modeling side of things or creating a model. How or where do you find the design or file needed to make the battery holders for my battery powered power tools? Thanks for any info you can give.
The new right answer is the P1S. It's enclosed and works with the AMS multi-spool system for $699. Basically the X1 Carbon without the Lidar and fancy touch screen for $450 less. Just ordered one.
@@DanSlotea I'm not familiar with the Mega S, but since you're (justifiably) bringing up electricity cost, a faster printer that fails less often may spend less time ultimately printing, and thus use less electricity over time, just more when you need it.
That microwave comparison was perfect. Im an engineering student in my school's society of manufacturing engineers, we are lucky enough to have a bambulab x1 and i cant imagine how long our prototyping would take without it.
In the last storm we had, a part of the raindrain of the roof was fractured. I 3D scanned it, worked on it a bit and 3D printed the piece that was broken. I went to 5 stores before i went on the scanning and printing route. The first 3 said " it was too old and couldnt be bought anymore" while the other 2 said they could get it but it would cost about 250 dollars. .... yeah... So i went with 3D printing.. it cost me about 4 $. so yes printing fantasy stuff and cosplay stuff is grand and all but using it for everyday issue and problems that need to be solved, is way more fun.
Could have used something like Meshroom to find the shape of the gutter, then just getting a reference measurement to determine the length to scale the print to. That way you can quite easily just make a cap or something to glue in/fit in and replace the broken area@@Svevid
Now guy math says that’s the equivalent of a $246 discount on that printer you previously bought haha. That’s how you have to pitch it to the Mrs. At least👍🏻
I just want to say, I am so grateful that you didn't add some cheesy background music and a tonne of flashy transitions. This was such a great simple honest review and explanation for beginners.
I just bought my first printer about 3 weeks ago, an ender 3 v2 neo. I've already printed repair parts for a machine at work, joycon repair parts, etc. I've already swapped the firmware, converted it to direct drive and have started learning to use carbon fiber reinforced filament for wear resistance. I am definitely enjoying the journey. Although a Prusa was on my short list of models, in the end, the neo was the only one I could afford. If I can start to monetize this in my area, I will definitely be looking at the P1P - that speed is amazing.
@@mattz8956 still like it, mostly. Kind of left it alone through the winter. I've switched to klipper and octoprint, which works great. The petg carbon fiber filament is my favorite to print with, it just works. The Ereyone brand grey petg, not so much. Just haven't used it nearly enough, but when I need it, it is so useful. I need to order some decent pla for the simple jobs, I tried going straight to petg, but it is unnecessary for most projects.
@@kstricl thanks for the info! Good to know it still works. I don’t have a super strong interest in 3d printing so the $600 price range is a bit much so I think I will go with the ender. Have you had any issues with it before?
@@mattz8956 Just the learning curve mostly. The first firmware swap I did was to, I believe, mriscoc. Look up Zeltroix, he's done a ton on the neo v2. I also recommend getting a model with bltouch, it makes life so easy when it comes to leveling the build plate, homing the z axis, etc.
I'm 56yo and just started. Mate thanks for the information, yes I have had some failures, but have started to sort them out. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Great advice. Ive owned 9 printers total now, including 4 prusa, and i have touched nothing but my bambu P1p since getting it. Better, faster, cheaper. Prusa while requires less intervention, maintenance etc... than an Ender, still needed far more adjustment than basically 0 on the bambu.
My Ender 3 v2 worked from the moment I turned it on. I like to tinker, so I have modified it a little over time. It's reliable, prints well (I rarely have a failed print and it's usually my fault) and maybe a little slow, but I'm like most people and don't have $1000 or more to plunk down to get started. Unless I'm going to do commercial printing, I'll stick with it.
I bought an Ender S1. It wasn't a steep learning curve. I was printing well from the get go. I think I went a little overboard. I should of went with a Ender 3 v2. I'm so glad I didn't buy a Prusa.
@@poopoppy Creality printers have a lot of issues these days and the company is using the brand name to trick people into buying their printers, when you can get much higher quality ones for the same prices or less
@@blytical Yeah, probably. They are famous for poor quality control. But you learn about how printers work, and most issues are easy fix, because of how big the creality community is. 1000 bucks on a first printer is overboard. I spent 400 on my S1, and that was a bit much. As handy, and as cool as 3d printers are. Chances are they won't get used all that often. It's not about any brand in particular. It's more the price point.
@@TheMrMultione I actually just bought that one, and haven't had any issues. Set-up was incredibly easy, and the auto bed leveling is super handy. I was running perfects prints in under 20min. I have an Ender 3 Pro as well, so I knew a little about parts and stuff if I did run into problems, or wanted to mod it. But as is, it honestly doesn't need any mods, unless you plan on Printing more demanding filaments like metal.
This is my absolute favorite shop/tech channel; the videos are intelligent, direct and well-organized. There is enough humor to make it fun without becoming goofy. Great job and thank you.
I agree on all points and own a Bambu Lab X1-Carbon. I have 5 other printers as I got into 3D printing years ago. I will add that having cheap printers and learning how they work and modifying them to be better, I learned a great deal. That being said, I understand some people don't want to learn and just want to print.
recommend the best printer to get started on? budget doesnt matter i dont want a cheap one just to save money but takes more time to learn and get familiar with the machines, money is no option i just want the easiest to use with best results and ability to know what the limits are in 3d printing...the p1p good enough for a first timer without being overwhelmed and discouraged to keep going? ive seen lots of ppl praising bambu
@@Bennett_Lab I've been working on a 3d printed flight yoke and pedals for weeks now cause I've been wasting days trying to level and calibrate my ender 3. I just can't waste 2 hours calibrating and 5 hours waiting on the print only to have it be like 70% decent lol can't wait to buy one
I bought a P1P after dealing with a low cost unit and I cannot recommend it enough. All the constant headaches are gone and I can just get things printed out. I am printing constantly & bonus it is faster and quality is so much better. Additionally there is a Opensource fork of the Bambu Labs slicer with all the features and added calibration tools that really gets these things dialed in.
@@lorcster6694 Not really. Just cleaned the rods once since it gets dusty in my office. But with the P1S it's enclosed so that's not an issue. I have at least 2000 hours of printing on it. However, it's different for everyone but there's a reason why almost every 3d print youtuber has one in background.
Loved the video and looking forward to more of your expertise. I followed your recommendations...well, most of them....I brought a Bambu Labs PSI Combo with the AMS and had it all up and running within the 15 minutes from unpacking the box to printing my first print with 2 minutes to spare just like Bambu Labs advertised. I started printing everything from poop containers, fridgets, signs, filament spools, and tons of other stuff along with a rack to hold up to 66 boxes/rolls of Bambu and Sunlu filament in their boxes. I've never owned or operated a 3 D Printer before. I've learned so much from trial and error with things like heater head temp changes to unclogging the head, changing build plate temps to help different filaments stick better or not. I printed off LED Risers in order to install more lighting in the print chamber. It's great and I love it. Thanks for all your help with your videos..... FYI, I've had the printer since the last week in Nov 2023 and as of today Feb 2024 I've used a little over 18 rolls of filament, printed hundreds of pieces and have 752 hours of print time on the P1S. I am proud to say that with that 752 hours of print time I've only had 3 issues with it and was able to solve those issues within a few hours. The P1S has been running almost continuously since I got it. I am definitely addicted to it. Now that I've practiced for the past 5 weeks almost non-stopped I'm thinking it's time to find a way to make a little money with this beautiful machine. Any ideas would be helpful..... Thanks again for all that you do......
I built my Mk3S+ - thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the insights into the workings of the machine were invaluable. I did have one problem (one of the PSU connectors was reversed from the factory), but Prusa's tech support sorted the issue after a couple of rounds of emails and troubleshooting. And it's chugging away as I type.
@@scooterpinball i don't really get the thing with "struggle with cheap printers" thing, mine was 150 bucks work perfectly fine. Printed things from big to small as 6mm (gears- for a laminator, replacement gears for a face trimmer) to Glass shower hinge replacement parts to decoration, wall mounted shelves/phone holders etc etc So hobby level stuff in general but i have NEVER had any issues with it. Maybe some tiny "problem" with overhang capabilities but nothing supports, or general design work to minimize overhangs can't fix. Ain't gonna spend 1k+ for a hobby machine that a 150 one can do just as good with a TINY bit more effort.
I started on an Ender 3 kit, bought it in 2017 and it has been phenomenal this whole time especially for the price. I paid 180 bucks back then and the prints out of the box were great. I saw some videos of people showing modifications and upgrades the Ender 3 would need in order to run smooth and consistent but luckily I was able to print most of them with that same printer just like that lol Bed levelling was never an issue for me somehow. I always do the thing where you use a piece of paper and make sure the pressure is the same in all corners, really not a big deal but I see how people can get it wrong. It's just one of those things you have to get right and you can't skip that part.
I've got some heavier bed springs coming for $6 and I've got a direct drive for $20 that I have yet to fit. Bed leveling has never been an issue with the glass bed plate.
@@potrzebieneuman4702about the bed springs - what are they supposed to achieve exactly? I'm running stock springs and have no idea how making them stiffer / heavier would improve anything.
@@Chretze like you I'm not having any problems with the stock springs, but for AU$6 I thought why not. I think the reason many change their springs is to do with the frequency of bed leveling but I've also found that a glass bed reduces the number of bed leveling as well. I'll try it for $6 and see what happens.
Thank You! As an older general contractor, I've been considering a 3d printer for years for both my business & my hobbies but I struggle with computers (heck- i can't even make a simple excel spreadsheet without help). Your information is extremely helpful and I'm going to save this vid for when I do "take the plunge"(soon).
I have had an ender 3 for years and every time I use it, I have to mess with it (it usually collects dust) and now that I'm back in the firearms space and need to test designs out, I need something fast and easy with a lot of material capabilities, and you just made the decision easy for me. Thank you so much!
My Ender was almost my last printer. It was hard to use, constantly going wrong, and Creality sucks. Then I bought a Guider 2, then a Carbon X1. The Carbon was everything I had dreamed of in a printer.
If you already have the e3, it doesn't take too much to turn it into a great machine. I nearly went down the same road but fell into the rabbit hole along the way.
What you said about how manually setting the print bed and adding 3rd party components is a brain curiosity killer is the truest thing I’ve heard all year. As an ender 3 owner I’ve lost so much interest in 3D printing, but now I want to buy myself something from prusa or bambulab. Beautiful video
Same here, I've had an Ender 3 Pro for probably 3-4 years now.. It was fun at first, but damn near just felt like a tedious gimmick after a while. But I learned enough from it to impress my boss, he told me to choose any printer for our department and he was putting me in exclusive control of it. In the last 2 months, I've gotten more work out of our new X1-Carbon than I did in the entire life of my Ender 3 and I absolutely love the thing. Hell, sometimes I go in on Saturdays just to screw with it.
Yep, I got a Sovol SV06 for my first printer. While it worked great for awhile, it eventually got to the point of having a new issue every week along with constantly needing to re-calibrate it, get a new part to improve it, or dig for hours to try to find an answer to some obscure problem. I just got sick of this at a certain point and haven't printed anything for months, but I finally pulled the trigger on a Bambu Lab P1S and can't wait to (hopefully) print without all the constant troubleshooting
I ordered an ender plugged it in to do a test and then I mailed it back and got a kobra 2 pro. It blew my mind how much better it was for the same price
This was a huge help for me, I have been kicking this around for several years. I have a CNC and I have a laser and am always looking at small upgrades people have done, even a wrench holder and then they offer you the file. I really wanted to be under 1k to start, as I am still paying for a CNC and a Laser. P1P was 599.00 Score Of course, I spent nearly 800 because I mean what’s the point of getting no filament
Me personally I am glad I started off with a cheaper printer (neptune 4 pro) i've learned a lot about how to fix to diagnose issues, change a nozzle etc. etc. Immediately after a couple of prints I was running into issues so I had to look for answers (all my first layers started to fail) Once you start off with cheaper printers you will be able to appreciate more , something like a mk4 . Once I do get more money i wish to buy a mk4 (or a mk5 if it comes out) simply because it's open source and tinkering it pretty fun
I'm decent with SketchUp for drafting. Been eyeing the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro. Thinking it would be best to start off with as a first 3D Printer. Sounds like it has been working out well for you other than some beginner issues?
I have a P1P! It's like a microwave appliance. You put something in, the filament, run it, and you get something complete out of it. No tinkering, no self bed leveling, no long waits for simple prints. You do have to slice and understand that aspect but thats with successfully printing anything on any printer. I bought it for speeeeeeed and it has not disappointed. Cheaper units double, triple or sometime quadruple the print time speed and come with other headaches. I don't have patience for waiting countless hours lol. Funny story- many years ago i paid almost the same amount (700) for a slow bed slinger when it was the newest tech out there. Now you can pick one up for 200 or less even.
I'm not the sharpest spoon in the toaster so I could absolutely use that one, I want something simple and easy to operate without constant adjustment like my creality ender did
Very well balanced video for starters. I've started two years ago with a Prusa Mini+ Kit. For the same reasons you've mentioned: Affordable, reliable, track record, and the kit get's you familiar with the printer for future maintenance.
I messed around with a DIY Delta printer about 6 years ago. Got it all together just to get stuck at the setup/calibration stage and gave up on it. Sold it for half of what I bought it for and haven't messed with anything else since. However, now I am doing research to take the plunge into getting a unit for shoots-and-hoots. All this is to say that im gravitating towards the Bambulabs X1. It might be middle of the year before I can actually commit, but it pays to watch these videos now.
Nailed it. I just upgraded my ender 3 to the bambu and I can honestly say I've printed more with the bambu in 4 weeks than I did for years on the ender. It works. It works well. The prints are amazing, it's easy to change filiment, it's easy to print all the types of filaments and the software is great too (bye octoprint). It's pricy but when you count all the upgrades needed to make an ender 3 even close plus the time I spent on debugging and fixing the stupid machine over the years it's a small price to pay.
Dude. I bought an Ender 3 for my first (and only, so far) printer. What you said about the Prusa being good for someone who wants to get into 3d printing, not working on 3d printers, is too true. I've worked on this thing countless times now.
As someone who first came in wanting to 'just print and not worry', I was recommended the Creality CR-6 as it 'has the comfort upgrades Ender 3 really needed'. I can tell you now that 2020 advice did not age well. CR-6 is one of the hardest mainstream printers to find off-the-shelf commercial parts for (yes there's a community but depending on Discord dudes for printer upgrades is the exact OPPOSITE of what most of us signing up for a CR-6 wanted). In fact, it's such a pain the arse bc now I'm fully happy to tinker with my own printer and I can't even easily do that like I could with an Ender 3 with 10x more resources and support. Moral of the story, don't buy in on proprietary designs too hastily. Creality was a big entity in the space even 2-3 years ago, but I misjudged how they would design a new set of EVERYTHING for their fancy new affordable printer--and proceed to immediately back-track to the Ender 3-based mounting holes and designs immediately after that. Literally got rug-pulled by a company that is still thriving.
I've never had any issues with my Ender. It's a beast for fraction of the cost these recommended printers are. Of course it's not the ultimate end tier printer, but for a starter? Better than the recommended ones IMO (Ender 3 V2 here)
%0 prints into my Ender 3 S1 Pro and zero issues so far, Lmao. See, I knew Blender before getting a printer. Enders are fine. You asshats simply can't slice for shit. XD
When I tell you “I appreciate you!!” It’s an understatement. Thank you so much man. I was almost paralyzed from fear of buying a piece of crap, and almost gave up purchasing one. You are a gentleman and a scholar 🧐
Great video! I got some information from it. I am a NEW beginner. I looked at 3D printers a few years ago and was disenchanted with all the "tinkering". I don't mind a little tinkering, but if that is all you do is tinker and tweak the machine to get it to work properly, that is very frustrating, especially if you are a newbie to the craft. I have a CNC router and that's all I seem to do is tinker and tweak. When it is set-up properly, it is wonderful, but that is rare it seems. Anyway, I was hopeful that these Bambu Labs machines will eliminate most of that.
@@OGDIABLITO Once you get it printing fine you can just leave it alone and it'll give you consistent results every time. The only real design flaw is how the bowden tube can be melted and cause the hotend to jam, but this is apparently easily fixed by upgrading the part (for very cheap). Never got around to doing that and the issue went away. LOL
@@untrust2033I've had the opposite experience, it's given me nothing but headaches, bed level never stays, quality is terrible with under and over extrusion on the same print; if I could do it all over again I would not have bought it again, though obviously experiences may vary
I've been printing for a couple of years now, just bought a new printer and was up all night watching videos...this was the MOST impactful video I watched ALL evening! I've been hot over Bambu labs but this guys explanations are just top tier and really got me going. Great commentary!
That's strange because the guy has no clue what he's talking about. And responds like a scam artist when you confront him. Couple of things you should be aware of. He compares a MK4 to an X1C whilst they are totally different classes of printers. 1 has: enclosure / accelerometer / filter / camera / microLIDAR / ... the other one does not. He also suggest the most ridiculous thing ever, that is to buy a MK3S+. When for €100 more you can get the newer MK4 version. Because If you want to upgrade the MK3S+ to MK4 at a later time, you will have to pay €750. So really strange for him to even suggest buying a MK3S+.
Thankfully you can still get in on the print farm business because it's just getting started as an industry. The mistake most people make is selling online to nerds, instead of irl to boomers and others who view this as literal magic that may potentially arrive on the market in like thirty years, due to the mass ignorance of society in general. The target market is people who can't work a regular printer. The market online is a totally overlapping venn diagram with "people who would buy their own printer instead of ordering anything". I have tons of success doing it hyperlocally just within my neighborhood. All the people over 40 think I'm literally from the future. You provide the files, I just print and deliver. If you need a file, I can refer you to a freelance 3d modeller I know. Basically the staples print and marketing business model. It's truly shocking how such an overwhelming majority can't even work regular computers and printers yet. When I worked in Staples it was hordes of people who don't even know how to access their email. Take advantage of that
I fit your boomer description almost forty years ago when desktop computing first became "affordable". I was at my engineer's office, and he had an IBM PC. As I watched him do some little CAD task, he allowed me to touch the keyboard. I picked it up, rotated it around a bit, and exclaimed, "How can this do all of that?" He laughed and showed me the big iron box under the desk, while explaining that the keyboard was not the computer. I realized that I was just one step away from the Neanderthal marveling at fire in regards to my understanding of desktop computing. Because of that experience, I went out and got a PC clone, did some serious study, found a great architectural CAD program, began rudimentary programming, and became a guru of sorts. It wasn't that I was exceptionally smart or anything. It was more that I just put in some time "learning" that other folks didn't. If I knew one little thing and assisted others in resolving problems that they had, then I was capable of magic. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. I think that fits 3D printing right now. It really is in its infancy. I do doubt that it will have anywhere near as widespread an effect as desktop computing, but it will become much more common that most of us can envision. The box with my new P1S is sitting on its new home after being purchased yesterday. It will remain unopened while I study modeling in FreeCAD. I'll use that box as my motivator. Oh... I was born a couple of years before the first boomer, and plan to be churning out useful or fun things in the near future. TH-cam videos are proving to be far easier and quicker in regards to "larnin" than old time paper books ever were. Happy me.
Great video. You hit the main point, the Bambu is a tool that just works and is so easy to use. There are so few steps to printing something compared to other printers. I've spent a lot of time and money getting my ender 3 pro as polished and reliable as possible with upgraded bed, direct drive, hardened all metal hotend, runout sensor, bed levelling, 32bit board and compiling my own custom firmware, slowly perfecting various slicer profiles for different materials- it's been quite a process and on the plus side I've actually learnt quite a lot from it. It now works well for a ender 3 but it's been a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get it to this point and it still can be a faff to use it. The Bambu just worked straight out of the box, no upgrades needed, no tweaking, no tinkering, no experimenting, no learning it's foibles. It just works.
Yes if you started over with you printing farm business. I would recommend the cheapest possible printer with self bed leveling. That way people know if 3d printing is a hobby for them. Proper first layer seems to be the biggest issue people face when coming into this hobby. People dont have the patience or the common sense to figure out how to level a bed manually. I have gotten pretty OK at eyeballing the level, but just got a BL touch clone to even skip that part.
YES! This is the video I wish I'd seen starting out. I got an Ender 3 and spent all my time just working on it. I became an Ender 3 mechanic instead of a creator. And I noticed the guys who actually print their own custom CAD models--like I wanted to--were NOT using Enders. Inevitably they used Prusas or something else. If you watch Ender 3 enthusiast videos, SO MUCH of the content is focused on just fixing and upgrading the damn thing. Take that as a warning! When I get back into 3d printing it'll be at least at the $2,000 price point where you can EXPECT the print to succeed instead of being pleasantly SURPRISED if it does. Failed 20-hour prints get real old real fast.
Ender 3 must be an acronym for Endless Nuisance, Don't Even Research 😂😵💫😭😭 Also! It's funny that you mention that as my Ender 3 sits disassembled, in a box, in the corner of my room because of the times I've tried to fix it myself based on tutorials or get asynchronous feedback from the TA's in the program I was in back at uni. I got my Ender 3 from my Stanford Product Design undergrad, specifically the P3D program because I took some of my Mechanical Engineering courses during the height of the pandemic. Basically, what would have been the machine shop class at my parents house but they did teach us about scaled manufacturing processes they wouldn't have otherwise, so there's always a silver lining. Anyways, which 3D printer are you using now? I'm curious plus I want to get back into physical product design (as digital UI/UX job market is kinda tough rn) Thanks in advance 💫
If you can't use an allen key and watch an assembly video you're better off with paying a premium for an out of the box printer that you'll have to send away to get fixed and loose 2 weeks of printing.
Just picked up a new P1S yesterday and its currently running at 599! Hard to argue with that price for a full enclosure! Arrives tomorrow and I can't wait to get it!
How’s it been man? I’m looking for one at the moment and they’re on special I can see for Black Friday! You think it was worth it? What about the X1C that the jump up?
I have printed about 375 hours with it now! I ended up getting the AMS on the Black Friday sale (and they gave me a 50 dollar gift card since the price of my printer dropped so soon after I bought it!). I have had ZERO issues. Couple times I had to stop a print was because I got oils from my hand on the plate. I just washed it with Dawn real fast and my prints worked perfect! It’s been the best out of the box experience I have ever had. App on my phone rocks. Software on my computer rocks. I’m currently printing all sorts of Christmas ornaments for my kiddos Christmas trees and they love it! I say get one. I can’t speak on the X1 but I adore the P1S. I also priced out the few parts I might need to replace and the most expensive part was the board inside and it was like 50ish bucks! Such a great printer and encourages DIY.
@@joshmm141 Awesome dude I might have to get one then! I live in an apartment, do you have any comments on what it would be like to have it just in my office with me? Are they loud? I've heard the AMS material might not be good for indoors with fumes etc but the other stuff is ok? Thats only thing stopping me atm but when I saw you could buy ones like the P1S that have their own enclosure I got considering it again.
@@itsjawdan Yeah so the AMS is the second part you can sit on top that lets you put 4 different colors to print things. Without it, you can run 1 roll of filament on the back spool included. I have only printed with PLA but it will print some of the other materials. I have heard they can smell a little but I can’t comment as I haven’t tried those yet. First thing I did was print the feet that it can sit on which greatly reduced my sounds. I have mine setup in an open nook between our kitchen and laundry room / garage door and it’s really quiet overall. If you want it to be extra quiet, you can slow down the print speed which really makes a difference.
May go with the Bambu as both of my Toyotas were crap ;). One factor for me is the price, and lead times. I love my MK3, as it is reliable, but kind of wanting to support a company that has put forth some effort to make things better for the 3D printing community forcing other companies to do better.
Agree 100%, got tired of manual levelling and troubleshooting addons/quirks. The p1p just works, click print and its done like a regular paper printer.
Thanks to this video I bought my first 3D printer last month, a 2nd hand Prusa Mini+ for a really decent price. It's a real work-pony, and I'm really pleased with the decision to get it rather than an Ender 3. I think one day, if I've got the money, I'll get a Mk 4 or whatever Prusa's latest printer is in a few years, but for now, this Mini does everything I need it to, and it's so easy to service.
Don't get an Ender. It's a decent frame and will work very well if you set it up right, but that's the problem. You have to spend a shitton of time setting it up and tinkering with it instead of printing the things you actually wanted to print. The main problem with this hobby is that people don't understand that tinkering is only fun if you're doing it for fun. It's not fun if you have to tinker with the damn thing all day just to get it to print something.
This is great advice for someone who isn’t looking to tinker with a printer constantly. I have a Prusa, an Ender 3 v2, and an Anycubic Vyper, and of the three, the Prusa has been my least finicky machine. The Ender also worked great stock, but was a bit too slow for my tastes, so I’ve modded it extensively. The Vyper has been nothing but constant headaches.
@@axeltheodorus18 I had ender, and compared to Prusa, Ender is a complete waste of time and money. Prusa just works :) Mine is going strong for 4 years now
For what its worth dont be so hard on the 3d printing community, plenty of those "dumb" trinkets and stuff are printed to help people calibrate and torture test their machines when learning what all the different settings do because cura slicer has hundreds if not thousands of settings
Nah, feel like most people just print for the sake of printing. I dont think that is bad in itself, but i dont think they print all the randome stuff for «calibration»
@@bisk1407 not my kid printing toys and meme sculptures to boast around his school mates.... He definitely didn't make a sculpture with "69420" "moe lester" "yuri tarded"..... Kids these days having the best machines humanity ever created and using it for hehe funny stuff.....
Nah dude most of that junk is desk trash that will end up in someone's yard, the ocean or a landfill. No one is out here printing fidget toys to push their printer to the edge, cmon.
I just found your channel and it’s fascinating to see the scale of your print farm! I’ve been messing around with 3-D printers for about the last nine years and last year bought a Bambu lab X1c which paid itself off about five times over in the first couple of months! It’s definitely a fantastic machine if you know what use it for. Congratulations on your business, it’s always inspiring to see people making a living doing what they enjoy.👍
Absolutely bang on. Have the Ender 3 S1 Pro and truly enjoyed the few months of seeing something around the house that needed *something* and being able to just sit down in Fusion and create a solution. That said, I got tired of tinkering with it. Leveling the bed, tuning the settings, etc. That coupled with the iterative nature of creating something from scratch and the time it takes to print 1 of anything slowly killed my interest in doing it. One of the Bambu models are definitely on my radar for purchase soon.
Yep. E3Max here, love the huge build volume but the iterative process plus dumb mistakes since I'm new to 3D design often makes a project take far longer than it should. The last piece I printed was 8h, and would have been 12h if I had 100% infill, like I wanted. Took me 3 days and 4 attempts to get it right. I ran the same file through the Bambu slicer with the same settings and it said 2.5h. I could have made those same mistakes and finished the project in a day with a Bambu. It's definitely on my list.
Started with an S1 Pro in November and probably spent more time tinkering and maintaining it than actually printing. Got a P1P in March and wish I'd done it sooner.
I 100% recommend getting the P1P if you only ever really print PLA and PETG. It's an amazing piece of kit, incredibly reliable and the best investment I ever made. Although I wish I had gone for the X1C, since all my upgrades have cost me so much, an X1C would only have been 200€ more than my P1P with all upgrades, and offered significantly more. But oh well, with hindsight, you're always smarter.
@@rtardjuice Same here. Just added the Sonic Pad (BIG Mistake) luckily, I can send the SP back. I am tired of tinkering. I have learned a lot in a short time, but I have better thing to do. Ordering an X1C today. Great video, just what I needed to push me over the edge.
I've run both Ender 3D & Anycubic Chiron without issues. Right out of the box, great print quality. I think most issues are with the software and users not being familiar with the settings for their particular job. Learning how to configure settings for a particular filament type and the part takes time no matter what 3D printer is used.
First time here, by chance, looking for non bias info. It was actually a pleasure to listen to, no nonsense, non overly techie talk. First step into 3d printing world, less daunting now. Thanks!
You got me in the first 2min. The reliability and something just working is something sooo undervalued, not only in 3d printing but I would say in DIY in general. As someone that around 6 years ago started my 3d journey I completely related with what you said. Until I bought my prusa MK3S most of my time I was doing exactly that , buying third party parts to upgrade the printers and constant fixes or calibrations. My prusa in 4 years needed to be fixed once, the thermal sensor, which was a 30 min job. They have great documentation that makes it easy to fix and build the printer. Currently I'm considering to expand and I'm quite divided between bambo and prusa, but due to their track record, quality, open source and constant software upgrades/deploy I'm inclined to go prusa 4, but the tesla looks amazing 😂
I couldn’t agree more on prusa. I had a cheap printer and spent ages printing things to make it work correctly so I could print what I wanted, then bit the bullet and bought a mk3s+, and since I’ve owned the prusa I’ve printed a couple of cool baskets for it, but needed nothing outside of what it came with to make it work. Now I just print the things I actually want to print, and they come out geometrically correct (another problem with my old printer)
Nice review, thank you! I used to do vinyl graphics with a professional grade cutter... this new tech kind of caught my eye. I might want to look to see if my community college offers any courses in 3d printing or modeling.
@@xxtomcatxx nah AMS is extra, and I mainly use Bambu filament if I can, it’s more or less the same price as esun and sunlu which i get from amazon, but way better. If you can get stock that is
The ender 3 pro has been doing wonders for me. I was told to look at it as a hobby so I wouldn't get frustrated with the failures. That thought process has been amazing. I have fixed, changed, and currently fixing things. I understand the functions so much better. But now I want to run an etsy shop, so I need reliability. This video has been super helpful
Let me start by saying you are absolutely correct for about 90% of the consumers out there, and you are 100% on the nose as to the printers ease of use. I am one of those weird people that wanted to learn how to make everything run better, badder, faster, and ultimately enjoyed the process of learning about the printers more than just for printing. I know that I am in the minority, and I am glad that PRUSA and BAMBU exists for those that just want their production cars (printers) to work, but I am also glad that CREALITY exists so I can make my kit car (printer, to continue the analogy) run amazing. Great vid.
As someone that is thinking about getting into 3DP, this was FANTASTIC. Hit all the points I've been wondering about, even "how am I going to model stuff??" I was pretty sold on getting a Bambu X1C on black friday (hoping for deal), before but this has opened my eyes to the P1P.
I've been printing for a few years. I think learning on the old cheapo ender 3 was valuable for me, but even with an engineering background, it took some persistence. I may upgrade to Bambu as I scale my hobby. Great video.
Problem I have is the software. Ever since I upgraded my board on my ender 5 plus, I cant do a print, do to bed won't come up or will crash into nozzle.
The Ender turned nearly almost as many people off 3D printing for life as it ever helped. It was a cheap, badly supported piece of crap. I would NEVER buy a Creality machine again.
Ender 3 was a big learning curve (especially getting one second hand with no manual) but now that I've got it working well enough that I can run a 2 day print on it with very little chance of failure... I'd like to reduce that print time to 8 hr or less lol. Great learning experience, but a clear starter printer without a bunch more upgrades to it.
71K views and 376K + 1 subscribers when I watched this! And so well deserved. I'm an older woodworker and SketchUp user. I'm finally ready to take the 3D printer plunge. My wife's Podiatrist, is doing 3D printing, so while on an office visit yesterday I asked him which printer he'd recommend and he recommended the Bambu Lab P1P for it's ease of use right out of the box. He also recommended Fusion 360 when I asked him about design software. Thanks for your channel. I'm a new subscriber and it's already apparent that I'll learn a lot from you.
Travis going hard on nerds and dorks. Careful, someone is going to hack your farm and make them start printing middle fingers. Why you make me spend money Travis? I didn't even need a 3D printer but now I have a farm... or at least a garden
Relatively new to 3D printing. Did a little research and learned about Bambu and their AMS. Bought my first P1S with AMS a couple months ago. I am now absolutely obsessed and have now ordered 2 more P1S with AMS.
The Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro is a solid choice for beginners. Im a total beginner and got one couple weeks ago and its worked flawlessly. For a little over $200 on sale it comes with many "quality of life" features that make printing high quality parts easy. All I had to do was adjust the tension on some of the rollers and auto level the bed and I was printing amazing quality parts. Having done research beforehand I was frankly shocked at how easy and painless the experience has been.
Hi, nice video. I have had several printers and now on a Zortrax M200 that I used professionally. I would definitely get an enclosed model with a filter if your going to run your printer @ home, ABS stinks. I wouldn't get side tracked by 'multi-colour' capability unless you really really think you need it. You rightly highlight first layer success as the #1 beginner problem -nightmare back in the day... I successfully used "TinkerCad" as the models I needed were not too complex and it has the advantage of being so simple you don't forget how to use it if not designing anything for a while...
Great video. You basically described my entire issue with my Ender 3. I wanted to get into 3D printing to support my hobby of making 3D models and printing them, but it was clear the Ender was gonna have to become a second hobby in and of itself before anything meaningful could be done. The P1P is what I wish I had gotten back in 2020. Maybe I'll grab it...
@@odinata Its more a matter of annoyance and timesink than difficulty. Constant fighting with bed leveling, issues with firmware when trying to get the auto bed probe to behave after buying it, things like that. Just more friction than the limited amount of time I wanted to dedicate to the task relative to its importance in my overall workflow. I eventually got a resin printer, which, while messier, was a lot easier to set and forget, and get usable results.
Basically any Crapality product is far more trouble than they're worth. From assembly to shoddy build material (my ender 3 would never keep a level bed no matter how much I tried, and the cr6-se tried its hardest to burn our house down...three times!) they just aren't a good choice. A Mingda Magician X is in the same price range as an ender, and you'll get a lot more use from it.
I like this type of feedback. You didn't just say the product isn't good and rant off, you provided a reasonable alternative. I finally got my first house in the past year and want to finally get into 3D printing. 1200$ for a hobby that I may or may not even like is beyond excessive, so as a beginner I have been looking heavily at the 150-300$ price range, instead of a new large debt. Its responses like yours that I use to build my list of possibilities. Thank you.@@MAGA_Patriot2024
I am getting ready to purchase my first FDM printer... been doing Resin for a few years and made the fun discovery of being allergic to resin recently, so no longer an option. I have been looking at the Bambu P1P and P1S as well as the X1C... thank you for making this video
@@mileswelch5136 resin is resin, it's always toxic if you have no ventilation. you've become allergic because you failed basic health protocol and didn't read any warning labels
Thanks for making the video. Its craz you are getting 1 out of 15 people giving it a thumbs down. Its not sponsored, you own a farm of them, and you didnt beat around the bush. Im researching my first printer and deciding between the Bambu and the Elegoo since it's half the price and people comment its reliable. Im just afraid this is another tool that collects dust so I hate to spend $700 and only use it a few times.
My wife got me a Neptune 4 Pro for my birthday and I'm in the process of returning it because of how much of a headache it was. Glad I found this video.
From my perspective, the development at Tesla served as a great example. As I closely followed the market, it appeared that there would be minimal changes. However, Bambu Lab emerged and introduced something entirely distinct from Creality and other competitors in the market. It is important to note that being different does not automatically imply superiority or increased accuracy. It simply implies that other companies, such as Creality or Prusa, are following a similar path. Therefore, there must have been some underlying factors that were previously not fully comprehended. Admittedly, not everyone appreciates the fact that Bambu Lab's printer is not open source. Nevertheless, I believe Bambu Lab's intention is not solely to cater to geeks and professionals but to eventually reach a broader audience. They have successfully taken the initial step towards achieving that with the P1P.
bambulab's work doesn't present anything new that the industry wasn't already doing. They did however, uniquely cost engineer everything, so it's actually affordable to the modern consumer. Much of the components are similar to much higher performance machines, such as the lidar being present in the mark X (which is now a 6 year old product). the idea of a daughter board being as old as stratasys' original patents. the corexy not being unique. Still an awesome company of course.
Curious, what does not being open source have to do with reaching a broader market? It sounds counter intuitive. I imagine more people can work with something that is open source.
Long term reliability of the bambu printers is still unknown. There are issues popping up now that are starting to bring into question how well they hold up. To their credit they seem to have decent customer service. I'm sticking with Prusa, but I also value things like company ethics, open source, community support, etc over just price point. Bambu is a chinese based company and there are 100% privacy concerns when dealing with a network connected device made by a China based country. Just look at what happened with Anker/Eufy recently. I didn't know ANYONE who was iffy on Anker, but now I wont touch them. For me, I would not let a Bambu printer on my network... ever, so the wifi functionality is just deleted from the printer. Additionally, if something breaks, I want to be able to just get a replacement ASAP. With Prusa, it's all open source hardware except for the board (which is unlikely to fail anyways), so I either have stuff on hand already, or can get it in a day instead of waiting for a shipment from Asia. I get your points, but I feel like people who like Bambulab printers just completely gloss over these issues and give them way more leeway than a company who has been active and contributing to our space for what? a decade? Bambu literally forked PrusaSlicer, and the hardware is all closed source. I'll stick with the company that built our hobby and continues to innovate in the open source space.
Well I an answer part of your comment and clear up some FUD "Long term reliability of the bambu printers is still unknown. " They shipped their first commercial printer less than a year ago. Unless you have a time machine to peer into the future that is a fallacious argument. Ultimaker has been out for a 12yrs but I wouldn't use them as a litmus of quality. I have an OG kickstarter X1C with AMS and it has been running fine since AUG of 2022. I am at 3k hours and counting. I bought EVERY part available from the Bambu lab store to mitigate any down time. I recent contacted support because I wanted an AMS part that requires a new board they will ship under warranty. (AMS is fine but I wanted the updated part) Contacted support and got it sorted under 24 hrs and part came in less than a week. Bambu lab has warehouses in the states with most deliveries coming in a few days. Speaking of the parts I have a small warehouse of parts and only swapped out consumables like ptfe tubes or nozzles. The prices for parts are reasonable and there are 3rd parties offering some parts on amazon and aliexpress. Nozzles are $10-15 and hotend assembles for $30-35/, A prusa mk3 hot end kit is $65-$80 "Bambu is a chinese based company and there are 100% privacy concerns when dealing with a network connected device made by a China based country. " You do not need to connect your printer to the internet unless you want firmware updates. You can use the printer with no connection with microSD or lan only. I have frequently used the printer on a separate network with ZERO internet and it works fine. " Bambu literally forked PrusaSlicer," and Prusa slicer forked Slic3r. They are all open source so I am unsure what your comment was suppose to reference. You can use Bambu studio or Orca slicer which are both open source. Prusa has used step file integration and the file cut beyond a horizontal plane, and adding text to a model came from Bambu first. Everyone benefits. There are features I wished Prusa slicer implemented like multiple plates to organize parts and projects. I can go further but I am not here to convince you but to show that your concerns are not so big when broken down. *I have a Mk3s+, ender 3, ankermake and X1CC.
@@ashleys3dprintshop I use the X-1 Carbons in a Makerspace and they have genuinely been life changing. So much faster, reliable and WITH the quality of our slower, steadier printers for larger prints. I cannot recommend Bambu enough
This video has become the standard of deciding which printer to buy... all the experienced people in the forums point to this video. Now with some experience with newer machines myself, I also recommend this video. Nicely done! 👍
Damn you hit the nail on the head at the start. I hesitated on getting a 3D printer for a few years because I thought "what would I even do with it?" Now that I have a few, I'm printing everything from decorative pieces, to functional things like scrapers and drawers, and even things that are simultaneously decorative AND functional, like beautifully sculpted boxes that have visually appealing designs on them, or a desk organizer shaped like a castle with dragons scaling the towers. I have Fusion 360 and I've cut my teeth on taking 2D images and extruding them into 3D objects and successfully printed them, but soon I want to learn more and make a lot of small but useful things to put around the house.
fusion is a love/hate relationship for me. and once you try solidworks or rhino... i can see why people move away from fusion. its just the software that gets people in the door trying it. the stuff ppl don't talk about as much like rhino ... is because it sells itself. they don't need to push it.
I have a Bambu, and two Ender printers. The Bambu is as plug and play as it gets. Awesome machine, but I'd never compare it to a Tesla because I'll never buy a Tesla.
Yes.... Your video started me to think about where to start. I went with the Bambu Labs X1 Carbon. The simplicity of the beginning process sold me and was well worth the few extra dollars. Now the learning begins. Be well....
One other great aspect of Bambu is their replacement parts are surprisingly affordable! I will say though I have been eyeing Sovol lately as the ultimate budget printers.
Great advice. I’m still satisfied to have spent $200 on my first printer as I didn’t even know if I would use it. It turns out, I do like using it for a variety of things. Also, the fact that you need to manually align and troubleshoot a lot helps me understand 3D printing in a way I wouldn’t if I had one of those awesome looking printers from the get go. I think I’ll be revisiting this video when I’m ready to buy a fancier model though!
@@jackbusiness7879 I turned some drawings (cartoons) my wife drew (before she went blind) into SVG files and 3D printed them so she could feel her own art. I printed some holders for her body sprays, some fun figurines and nameplates for the kids, and some things that have helped me at work! I think there will be some custom ornaments/baubles on the Christmas tree this year too. :)
I am close to buying a printer, but have a few questions that I haven’t seen addressed yet. Maybe I just have t found the right video yet? How clean of space do you need. How much does the average user spend on filament. Are there differences in filament types for various end products and how to choose them. What additional accessories are recommended. I’m sure there are more questions that I don’t even know to ask yet.
I have had the Ender 3 Neo for about a month now and I think it was a good starter printer because I did have to learn more about how it works in order to get it to print dimensionally accurate parts. I am an engineer, however, so I geek out on that stuff. I like to know what's going onside. For the price, I think it was a great investment for a starter but am already wanting to dive in and spend a little more. I appreciated this video. I think I will go with the kit for my next printer.
Im a photographer its was the same for me with that. instead of starting with a $2000 or even a $1000 camera I went with a $600. it was a bad camera so i really had to get good with it to get the images i would easily would have got with a better one, but when I mastered that I got a $2000 one with my skills from my cheap camera I was doing some amazing stuff with the new camera. A lot of the other photographers im friends with had been it just as long as me but all of them jumped right into a high end camera and they all say im better because I have more skills witch was because of the way i learned
Stumbled on this video while trying to decide what printer to buy. The set design, the content, and the delivery are all on point. Thank you! Yes...I liked and subscribed.
Stopping by to say thank you for this video. Got a P1S with AMS and it's so fun to just PRINT and not have to worry about much else. Only had it a few weeks but it's so nice to have and I'm so excited for the future!
Hi there! It's been 3 months since your comment, and I'm curious if you're still happy with your purchase? I was looking at this exact configuration this morning. P1S with AMS. Even got so far as to do some 3d modelling with OnShape and exported my part (simple box with clip slots) into Bambu's slicer software. By all accounts the PS1 is great choice. Was hoping to hear from someone who's had some experience with it.
@@Trag1cMag1c yes!! It is all absolute dream! Still going strong and no real problems to speak of! A lot of issues can be solved by making sure filament is dry.
@@WuLFie40 I pulled the trigger this morning. Ordered with the AMS. The more research I did, the more compelling this unit became. Can I ask what climate you're in? I'm in Brantford, Ontario, Canada. About 100 kms (60 miles) from Toronto. Humidity might be an issue during our summer months. But I might set this unit up in our basement, and have our dehumidifier in the room.
@@Trag1cMag1c Great choice! You're gonna love it! I live in the States in the Midwest. I also have it downstairs in the cool basement, and I think that's helped a bit with the filament storage. I still want to eventually get a purpose built filament dryer. But even factory sealed spools can have a bit of moisture that's been absorbed by the filament. Overall, the thing is a beast and I think you'll love it!
@@WuLFie40 I appreciate your time! What types of things do you typically print? I've already designed some small bird feeders. Want to try material that'll hold up to the outdoors. First thing will be storage solutions for our kitchen and bathroom.
A lot of these commenter's don't understand who your audience is. An ender 3 is more than enough for those trinket makers, but if you are making anything functional, the ender 3 just isn't reliable, consistent, or fast enough. I bought an ender 3 for making functional prints for my farm and for every 10hours of printing, I have to do at least an hour of maintenence. Even with $600 of upgrades later. In the long run, a prusa mk3 is more economically viable. Especially for me. Going back now and looking for a replacement machine, I'm likely getting a p1s due to their reliability, precision, and speed. Something that a low end printer like the ender 3 can't do
My first 3D printer is an ender 5 sometimes I wished I bought a Prusa. But I have to admit that I do enjoy tinkering with the machine but that is personal.
AMS, camera and enclosure included on X1 Carbon package is great. I actually like the closed Bambu system so when I buy their filament, it just works for me as a hobbyist (I don’t care about the few extra $$ per spool). By way, they sell virtually all of the parts online for a reasonable price so you can fix on your own.
Great video and yes the backdrop is working. 👍 I must say when I think hobbyist, I think $500 range not a $1000+. Then what you explained at 2:32, is exactly what I’ve experienced with the Ender 3 I started with. Life got busy so didn’t use for awhile but when I started back up, it hasn’t enjoyable. I have a lot of shop organization projects that I want to create so miss the printer.
Wow I’m looking to get into 3D printing and was looking at the Bamboo1C but after seen your video I’m getting the cheaper Bamboo to start. Thanks once again. I’m glad I found this video.
I am a retiree from the Aerospace field. I have to say I really like this young man and his approach. Straight forward with real facts. I have the CNC laser and CNC router as he mentioned ih the video. Now it is time to consider the 3D printer. What a great video. You are a top shelf instructor.
Hi, I am a junior in high school and I am interested in learning in the aerospace field because I want to create road/race cars that perform good on track. I want to ask, what I should expect when I pursue a degree in aerospace like the typical work environment, and what the things that I should expect to work on the most; I already know about turbulent and laminar airflow, outwash, wake, low and high pressure regions and how that can generate lift/negative lift, I'm into F1 and endurance racing, so every now and then I look at technical insight videos on how the air flow of the car helps create downforce and reduce drag. Is this a good start that I should continue or is there much more that I should take, like maybe learning CFD? What are some other things I should learn if I want to get a good understanding before I go to college, like are there other tools and software that I can learn?
I'm not going to lie, that was the best segue into a sponsor ad I have ever seen! Oh, and your studio set up looks amazing! The 3D Printing info was great too!
That was an awesome run down and so gratifying to hear someone in the industry telling me about things from a functional application point of view! I am yet to buy my first printer but loved the confidence building. As a retired research scientist, I have done the comparative research and the Bumbu P1P was my pick all-be-it for the most bang for my buck, economic reasons. Thank you for the video and now subscribed!😃
@@josesalas6678 His comparisons were completely misguided and wrong. His advise to still buy an MK3S+ is absurd. If you are looking to buy a new 3D printer I'd advise you to buy a Bambulabs printer. You could get a very cheap, beginner friendly printer (A1 Mini) for around €250. The A1, P1P/P1S are great options if you want to have a bigger build plate. The X1C is a masterpiece. Any of these printers will keep you printing for thousands of hours with minimal/no issues.
My first printer was - and still is - the Ender 5S1. Though I've seen a lot of criticism, it has been a completely reliable printer and I can honestly say that I've only had 1 major print fail since I bought it. The biggest downside for me is that in order to get quality prints, I have to slow it down to 40/50mms - anything faster gets sloppy. My next printer will be a Bambu and I'm looking forward to the speed.
It was worth flying your friend out to help with lighting and upgrading the space. These videos look SOOOO good in your new space! Well this one you're a little too saturated (alot of it is also probably your red lighting in the room), but overall every one shot in the redone office looks great. Though I still hope to see some shop greatness shot in the garage
People who buy products and review them always earn my trust. I dont like sponsored products. Thank you Sir for your valuable information.
Same. I'll give it a listen, but after hearing 3 or 4 others go on about the printer, they sound roughly the same. All in the name of not losing a sponsorship, and doing a disservice to their fan base. Because, money and free stuff.
I bought a Prusa back in 2014 when they where just taking off. Still works great. I do have to manually level the bed. I use Blender to create the parts I want to print. Blender does have a learning curve but well worth it in the end.
In your opinion and as someone using a printer, what sets Blender apart from other softwares?
@@eviltango It's free for one. They have a plethora of tutorials out there that helped me learn. It's an extremely powerful program that I barley scratch the surface. They have updated to even a whole new screen set. But I still use 2.79 and it does what I need it to do. From making my 3D for printing or 2D for my CNC.
Pardon my ignorance but what is CNC?
@@IyseHexxo-br8uo Computer Numeric Control.
I went with the P1S/AMS combo after a bunch of research. And it was so beyond worth it in my opinion. 100% agree with your suggestion.
how is it so far? it would be a big investment for me but they look great.
Love my a1 mini with ams. My ender is collecting dust now
I started with a cheap 3D printer and it's now in a box. I am tempted to get something that 'just works', and the P1S is firmly in my sights.
@@BobHannent If you have enough for the X1C I haven't found a reason to regret my purchase.
Finally someone that understands that 3D printers are a tool. So many 3D printing channels treat it like its the endgame where as for the rest of us its the starting point
Yeah because everyone get the ender 3 when you are a beginner and then you find your self fixing the machine every day.
It is good that we have here great people who use 3d printing... for what? If you can not use screwdriver, why do you need 3d printer? What for? To print Anime figures? Why even bother, just order one on a print farm. No?
Depends on the person. I like it as a tool, I rather spend my time modeling, than working the printer. For my brother, who has always been about tinkering with stuff, likes changing everything up, and than rarely use it.
There is no right or wrong, but I will say this, yes there is a lot of content out there how you can improve your printer etc, but let's be honest, what other videos should they make? Do 3d model reviews? Sure some storage systems etc get some attention, but aside from that, people want to know more about their printer.
And even if you are someone who uses it as a tool, there are still things you want to improve about your printer, or add some customization to.
You think differently when you just like to own a 3D printer with no real need for it.
Exactly, it is not much different from a CNC mill or router, you get one as a tool to make other things, the CNC mill is not the purpose of getting one, the purpose is to use it to make other things.
I followed this guy's advice and brought a Bambu P1S. Was 3D printing in 15 mins of opening the carton and haven't stopped since - somebody stop me!
How is it holding up?
@@erikottema2620😂😂😂 same
@@A_Mysterious_Crow Bambu labs are not really made for easy maintenance right?
@@erikottema2620 it destroys the 5m and the crealty etc. It's a pro device.
@@erikottema2620I have found mine (all p1s) to be rather easy to maintain. there is a little wading through as I resolve some nozzle clog issues, and is worth my time to just quickly swap and then try to figure several at once, and clogs can be a pain but I imagine this is true of any given printer. Have some replacement parts, never needed to touch em and my printers are printing 6-8 hours every day at least with abrasive filament (today all of em have done four prints at 2-3 1/2 hours each, using pla-cf). But have disassembled the whole thing, been figuring out how to clean and maintain em. Isn't hard, mostly just some trouble shooting of exactly what the device could detect is wrong and how that might be solved. I am sure there are easier to maintain, and what isn't available for immediate purchase to replace does seem to have long delays for people, but this has just worked well and frustrations are minor.
As someone looking to move up to bigger and better from their Ender 3, I appreciated this video! I especially appreciated your understanding that I want to 3D print for my hobbies, not as a hobby.
Idk i have an ender 3. But i also have worked on cartesian robots professionally so i guess thats why i feel like upgrading my printer myself rather than buying a new one. Plus it was a gift from my lovely wife.
@@johnhummel99build an annex
@@johnhummel99I think is exactly the pseudo divide in the market of consumers. Some people want to buy and play with their machines, while some people just want to use them. I absolutely hate my ender 3 v2, but I dont regret buying it at all.
Bambu A1 combo if you just want to hobby print.
@JohnnyG10178 I'd go with a Qidi, they're better than both in every way except the customer support from Prusa they are #1 there by far.
Great video. One of the best ways to determine how reliable a 3D printer is, put it in a makerspace. There you will get 10's of people who range from noobs, to experts, to people who think they're experts. If the printer can survive a couple weeks, it is remarkable. I agree, the Prusa is considered super reliable, but it was our most troublesome in the makerspace. The TAZ did quite well. A couple months ago we got rid of all the various machines and bought 3 P1Ps. They have been incredible. The only print failures we have seen were do to bad filament, incorrect bed section (wrong temperature) and poorly designed models. No nozzle clogs at all! Everyone is happy with the P1Ps, which is really something in a makerspace with 300 people.
What you said around 1:10 about “why you are here” to print functional stuff…that’s EXACTLY why I am here. I’m new to this and have been researching for 5 weeks…I hope your video lives up to what I need!I’ve already “liked” and will subscribe too if it helps my printer predicament to printer prediction!
I have children that bought a 3d printer personally I didn't see the value in buying something so expensive it seemed like just another complicated toy they wouldn't really use. But now I am researching this because I am making my own sock knitting machine that to buy new would be $1200 but I can make for $60. I love that you mentioned the kit printer because one of the main problems my kids run into is how to problem solve when something goes wrong. I showed them your video and they were really intrigued as am I. Thanks for that.
Honestly, I bought my first printer for 1 purpose and that was to 3D print replacement parts for my RC cars when I broke them. Now, I 3D print and 3D model and make all kinds of things. Specialized tools and jigs, ham radio antenna parts, cases for electronics, tool organizers for all of my drills and batteries, shelf brackets, non conductive nuts/bolts/screws/washers, cable management devices for my racks at work and I even designed and 3D printed my own vertical axis wind turbine as a low cost green energy project. The point is, you start looking at stuff and thinking "I bet I could improve that" or "I bet I could print that" A LOT.
@@DagonNaxosnew to the 3D printing world, I don’t fully understand the modeling side of things or creating a model. How or where do you find the design or file needed to make the battery holders for my battery powered power tools? Thanks for any info you can give.
The new right answer is the P1S. It's enclosed and works with the AMS multi-spool system for $699. Basically the X1 Carbon without the Lidar and fancy touch screen for $450 less. Just ordered one.
I moved up from an Ender 3v2 to the P1S and I love it.
@@slosubies4845 I have an Ender 3v2 as well, but it pretty much stays on the operating table.
And it uses 1300 W. My Mega S was 115$, uses about 150 W and is enough for a beginner and occasional prints.
@@DanSlotea I'm not familiar with the Mega S, but since you're (justifiably) bringing up electricity cost, a faster printer that fails less often may spend less time ultimately printing, and thus use less electricity over time, just more when you need it.
Where I live a P1S is just about 10x the price of an Ender 3
That microwave comparison was perfect. Im an engineering student in my school's society of manufacturing engineers, we are lucky enough to have a bambulab x1 and i cant imagine how long our prototyping would take without it.
I print nosecones that take 12-18 hours minimum.
In the last storm we had, a part of the raindrain of the roof was fractured. I 3D scanned it, worked on it a bit and 3D printed the piece that was broken. I went to 5 stores before i went on the scanning and printing route. The first 3 said " it was too old and couldnt be bought anymore" while the other 2 said they could get it but it would cost about 250 dollars. .... yeah... So i went with 3D printing.. it cost me about 4 $. so yes printing fantasy stuff and cosplay stuff is grand and all but using it for everyday issue and problems that need to be solved, is way more fun.
3D Scanned?
I’d like to know about this 3D scanned as well.
Could have used something like Meshroom to find the shape of the gutter, then just getting a reference measurement to determine the length to scale the print to. That way you can quite easily just make a cap or something to glue in/fit in and replace the broken area@@Svevid
Also would like to know about the 3d scanning, please.
Now guy math says that’s the equivalent of a $246 discount on that printer you previously bought haha. That’s how you have to pitch it to the Mrs. At least👍🏻
I just want to say, I am so grateful that you didn't add some cheesy background music and a tonne of flashy transitions. This was such a great simple honest review and explanation for beginners.
I just bought my first printer about 3 weeks ago, an ender 3 v2 neo. I've already printed repair parts for a machine at work, joycon repair parts, etc. I've already swapped the firmware, converted it to direct drive and have started learning to use carbon fiber reinforced filament for wear resistance. I am definitely enjoying the journey.
Although a Prusa was on my short list of models, in the end, the neo was the only one I could afford. If I can start to monetize this in my area, I will definitely be looking at the P1P - that speed is amazing.
So 10 months later, how are you liking the ender 3 you bought? I'm stuck on what to buy and just found out about the ender 3 v2.
@@mattz8956 still like it, mostly. Kind of left it alone through the winter.
I've switched to klipper and octoprint, which works great. The petg carbon fiber filament is my favorite to print with, it just works. The Ereyone brand grey petg, not so much. Just haven't used it nearly enough, but when I need it, it is so useful.
I need to order some decent pla for the simple jobs, I tried going straight to petg, but it is unnecessary for most projects.
@@kstricl thanks for the info! Good to know it still works. I don’t have a super strong interest in 3d printing so the $600 price range is a bit much so I think I will go with the ender. Have you had any issues with it before?
@@mattz8956 Just the learning curve mostly. The first firmware swap I did was to, I believe, mriscoc. Look up Zeltroix, he's done a ton on the neo v2. I also recommend getting a model with bltouch, it makes life so easy when it comes to leveling the build plate, homing the z axis, etc.
I'm 56yo and just started. Mate thanks for the information, yes I have had some failures, but have started to sort them out. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Everyone who has done a decent amount of 3D printing has had failures. And a lot of people would say failure is a good teacher.
@@Knowbody42 if you are not failing, are you even trying hard enough?
Great advice. Ive owned 9 printers total now, including 4 prusa, and i have touched nothing but my bambu P1p since getting it. Better, faster, cheaper. Prusa while requires less intervention, maintenance etc... than an Ender, still needed far more adjustment than basically 0 on the bambu.
It's the rule of FDM printing.. the more you initially spend, the less investment of time/money you have down the line with configuration.
Looking to sell any of the second hand used ones you don’t use?
My Ender 3 v2 worked from the moment I turned it on. I like to tinker, so I have modified it a little over time. It's reliable, prints well (I rarely have a failed print and it's usually my fault) and maybe a little slow, but I'm like most people and don't have $1000 or more to plunk down to get started. Unless I'm going to do commercial printing, I'll stick with it.
I bought an Ender S1. It wasn't a steep learning curve. I was printing well from the get go. I think I went a little overboard. I should of went with a Ender 3 v2. I'm so glad I didn't buy a Prusa.
@@poopoppy Creality printers have a lot of issues these days and the company is using the brand name to trick people into buying their printers, when you can get much higher quality ones for the same prices or less
@@blytical Yeah, probably. They are famous for poor quality control.
But you learn about how printers work, and most issues are easy fix, because of how big the creality community is.
1000 bucks on a first printer is overboard. I spent 400 on my S1, and that was a bit much.
As handy, and as cool as 3d printers are. Chances are they won't get used all that often.
It's not about any brand in particular. It's more the price point.
Ender 3 v3 SE looks pretty damn good for 200-220 dollar
@@TheMrMultione I actually just bought that one, and haven't had any issues. Set-up was incredibly easy, and the auto bed leveling is super handy. I was running perfects prints in under 20min. I have an Ender 3 Pro as well, so I knew a little about parts and stuff if I did run into problems, or wanted to mod it. But as is, it honestly doesn't need any mods, unless you plan on Printing more demanding filaments like metal.
This is my absolute favorite shop/tech channel; the videos are intelligent, direct and well-organized. There is enough humor to make it fun without becoming goofy. Great job and thank you.
I agree on all points and own a Bambu Lab X1-Carbon. I have 5 other printers as I got into 3D printing years ago.
I will add that having cheap printers and learning how they work and modifying them to be better, I learned a great deal. That being said, I understand some people don't want to learn and just want to print.
recommend the best printer to get started on? budget doesnt matter i dont want a cheap one just to save money but takes more time to learn and get familiar with the machines, money is no option i just want the easiest to use with best results and ability to know what the limits are in 3d printing...the p1p good enough for a first timer without being overwhelmed and discouraged to keep going? ive seen lots of ppl praising bambu
@@shane_wc without out a doubt the easiest to use is Bambu. It just works
I'm tired of constantly tinkering with my ender 3. So you're saying I'll love a bambu ? Lol
@@mattice9083 I guarantee it. It's like going from an old tube TV without cable to a 4K OLED
@@Bennett_Lab I've been working on a 3d printed flight yoke and pedals for weeks now cause I've been wasting days trying to level and calibrate my ender 3. I just can't waste 2 hours calibrating and 5 hours waiting on the print only to have it be like 70% decent lol can't wait to buy one
I bought a P1P after dealing with a low cost unit and I cannot recommend it enough. All the constant headaches are gone and I can just get things printed out. I am printing constantly & bonus it is faster and quality is so much better. Additionally there is a Opensource fork of the Bambu Labs slicer with all the features and added calibration tools that really gets these things dialed in.
So true
I have completely stopped using my other 3d printers once I got a P1P. It's been 6 months and I dread using my creality machines if my P1P is busy.
My plan is to get a P1P alongside a Kingroon KP3S Pro V2 (not gonna lie, i just want to buy it because is cute).
@@kongchho8547 Have you had to fix your P1P much?
@@lorcster6694 Not really. Just cleaned the rods once since it gets dusty in my office. But with the P1S it's enclosed so that's not an issue. I have at least 2000 hours of printing on it. However, it's different for everyone but there's a reason why almost every 3d print youtuber has one in background.
Loved the video and looking forward to more of your expertise. I followed your recommendations...well, most of them....I brought a Bambu Labs PSI Combo with the AMS and had it all up and running within the 15 minutes from unpacking the box to printing my first print with 2 minutes to spare just like Bambu Labs advertised. I started printing everything from poop containers, fridgets, signs, filament spools, and tons of other stuff along with a rack to hold up to 66 boxes/rolls of Bambu and Sunlu filament in their boxes. I've never owned or operated a 3 D Printer before. I've learned so much from trial and error with things like heater head temp changes to unclogging the head, changing build plate temps to help different filaments stick better or not. I printed off LED Risers in order to install more lighting in the print chamber. It's great and I love it. Thanks for all your help with your videos..... FYI, I've had the printer since the last week in Nov 2023 and as of today Feb 2024 I've used a little over 18 rolls of filament, printed hundreds of pieces and have 752 hours of print time on the P1S. I am proud to say that with that 752 hours of print time I've only had 3 issues with it and was able to solve those issues within a few hours. The P1S has been running almost continuously since I got it. I am definitely addicted to it. Now that I've practiced for the past 5 weeks almost non-stopped I'm thinking it's time to find a way to make a little money with this beautiful machine. Any ideas would be helpful..... Thanks again for all that you do......
I built my Mk3S+ - thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the insights into the workings of the machine were invaluable. I did have one problem (one of the PSU connectors was reversed from the factory), but Prusa's tech support sorted the issue after a couple of rounds of emails and troubleshooting.
And it's chugging away as I type.
Prusa was my first printer after watching family members struggle with cheaper printers. Now i have an xl and its amazing. Probably overkill.
@@scooterpinball i don't really get the thing with "struggle with cheap printers" thing, mine was 150 bucks work perfectly fine. Printed things from big to small as 6mm (gears- for a laminator, replacement gears for a face trimmer) to Glass shower hinge replacement parts to decoration, wall mounted shelves/phone holders etc etc So hobby level stuff in general but i have NEVER had any issues with it. Maybe some tiny "problem" with overhang capabilities but nothing supports, or general design work to minimize overhangs can't fix. Ain't gonna spend 1k+ for a hobby machine that a 150 one can do just as good with a TINY bit more effort.
I started on an Ender 3 kit, bought it in 2017 and it has been phenomenal this whole time especially for the price. I paid 180 bucks back then and the prints out of the box were great.
I saw some videos of people showing modifications and upgrades the Ender 3 would need in order to run smooth and consistent but luckily I was able to print most of them with that same printer just like that lol
Bed levelling was never an issue for me somehow. I always do the thing where you use a piece of paper and make sure the pressure is the same in all corners, really not a big deal but I see how people can get it wrong. It's just one of those things you have to get right and you can't skip that part.
I've got some heavier bed springs coming for $6 and I've got a direct drive for $20 that I have yet to fit. Bed leveling has never been an issue with the glass bed plate.
@@potrzebieneuman4702about the bed springs - what are they supposed to achieve exactly? I'm running stock springs and have no idea how making them stiffer / heavier would improve anything.
@@Chretze like you I'm not having any problems with the stock springs, but for AU$6 I thought why not. I think the reason many change their springs is to do with the frequency of bed leveling but I've also found that a glass bed reduces the number of bed leveling as well. I'll try it for $6 and see what happens.
@@potrzebieneuman4702 I see, cheers mate!
for a starter printer, i recommended the prusa mini to 4 of my friends. they all love it and have now lvl'd up to the MK4
Thank You! As an older general contractor, I've been considering a 3d printer for years for both my business & my hobbies but I struggle with computers (heck- i can't even make a simple excel spreadsheet without help). Your information is extremely helpful and I'm going to save this vid for when I do "take the plunge"(soon).
Its a difficult road but a road worth taking
I have had an ender 3 for years and every time I use it, I have to mess with it (it usually collects dust) and now that I'm back in the firearms space and need to test designs out, I need something fast and easy with a lot of material capabilities, and you just made the decision easy for me. Thank you so much!
My Ender was almost my last printer. It was hard to use, constantly going wrong, and Creality sucks. Then I bought a Guider 2, then a Carbon X1. The Carbon was everything I had dreamed of in a printer.
If you already have the e3, it doesn't take too much to turn it into a great machine. I nearly went down the same road but fell into the rabbit hole along the way.
@@parsonk4041 I was never interested in becoming a printer systems engineer. All I wanted was to print stuff. The Bambu got me there.
What you said about how manually setting the print bed and adding 3rd party components is a brain curiosity killer is the truest thing I’ve heard all year. As an ender 3 owner I’ve lost so much interest in 3D printing, but now I want to buy myself something from prusa or bambulab. Beautiful video
Same here, I've had an Ender 3 Pro for probably 3-4 years now.. It was fun at first, but damn near just felt like a tedious gimmick after a while. But I learned enough from it to impress my boss, he told me to choose any printer for our department and he was putting me in exclusive control of it. In the last 2 months, I've gotten more work out of our new X1-Carbon than I did in the entire life of my Ender 3 and I absolutely love the thing. Hell, sometimes I go in on Saturdays just to screw with it.
Voron. Daksh looks promising as a toolchanger and ercf is very similar in function to AMS.
Yep, I got a Sovol SV06 for my first printer. While it worked great for awhile, it eventually got to the point of having a new issue every week along with constantly needing to re-calibrate it, get a new part to improve it, or dig for hours to try to find an answer to some obscure problem. I just got sick of this at a certain point and haven't printed anything for months, but I finally pulled the trigger on a Bambu Lab P1S and can't wait to (hopefully) print without all the constant troubleshooting
@@ericosborne4122 After a month of owning the p1p, I’ve been printing nonstop without any problems so far. You will not regret this
I ordered an ender plugged it in to do a test and then I mailed it back and got a kobra 2 pro. It blew my mind how much better it was for the same price
This was a huge help for me, I have been kicking this around for several years.
I have a CNC and I have a laser and am always looking at small upgrades people have done, even a wrench holder and then they offer you the file.
I really wanted to be under 1k to start, as I am still paying for a CNC and a Laser.
P1P was 599.00
Score
Of course, I spent nearly 800 because I mean what’s the point of getting no filament
Me personally I am glad I started off with a cheaper printer (neptune 4 pro) i've learned a lot about how to fix to diagnose issues, change a nozzle etc. etc.
Immediately after a couple of prints I was running into issues so I had to look for answers (all my first layers started to fail)
Once you start off with cheaper printers you will be able to appreciate more , something like a mk4 . Once I do get more money i wish to buy a mk4 (or a mk5 if it comes out) simply because it's open source and tinkering it pretty fun
I'm decent with SketchUp for drafting. Been eyeing the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro. Thinking it would be best to start off with as a first 3D Printer. Sounds like it has been working out well for you other than some beginner issues?
@@chrisalister2297 I would recommend going for a BambuLab A1 or A1 mini.
Prusa MINI is also a great choice for your first printer.
I have a P1P! It's like a microwave appliance. You put something in, the filament, run it, and you get something complete out of it. No tinkering, no self bed leveling, no long waits for simple prints. You do have to slice and understand that aspect but thats with successfully printing anything on any printer. I bought it for speeeeeeed and it has not disappointed. Cheaper units double, triple or sometime quadruple the print time speed and come with other headaches. I don't have patience for waiting countless hours lol. Funny story- many years ago i paid almost the same amount (700) for a slow bed slinger when it was the newest tech out there. Now you can pick one up for 200 or less even.
I'm not the sharpest spoon in the toaster so I could absolutely use that one, I want something simple and easy to operate without constant adjustment like my creality ender did
@Tron-Jockey I'm happy somebody finally enjoyed that lol
Very well balanced video for starters. I've started two years ago with a Prusa Mini+ Kit. For the same reasons you've mentioned: Affordable, reliable, track record, and the kit get's you familiar with the printer for future maintenance.
Which apparently you won’t need to do, according to Prusa users.
I messed around with a DIY Delta printer about 6 years ago. Got it all together just to get stuck at the setup/calibration stage and gave up on it. Sold it for half of what I bought it for and haven't messed with anything else since.
However, now I am doing research to take the plunge into getting a unit for shoots-and-hoots. All this is to say that im gravitating towards the Bambulabs X1. It might be middle of the year before I can actually commit, but it pays to watch these videos now.
Nailed it. I just upgraded my ender 3 to the bambu and I can honestly say I've printed more with the bambu in 4 weeks than I did for years on the ender. It works. It works well. The prints are amazing, it's easy to change filiment, it's easy to print all the types of filaments and the software is great too (bye octoprint). It's pricy but when you count all the upgrades needed to make an ender 3 even close plus the time I spent on debugging and fixing the stupid machine over the years it's a small price to pay.
Dude. I bought an Ender 3 for my first (and only, so far) printer. What you said about the Prusa being good for someone who wants to get into 3d printing, not working on 3d printers, is too true. I've worked on this thing countless times now.
As someone who first came in wanting to 'just print and not worry', I was recommended the Creality CR-6 as it 'has the comfort upgrades Ender 3 really needed'.
I can tell you now that 2020 advice did not age well. CR-6 is one of the hardest mainstream printers to find off-the-shelf commercial parts for (yes there's a community but depending on Discord dudes for printer upgrades is the exact OPPOSITE of what most of us signing up for a CR-6 wanted).
In fact, it's such a pain the arse bc now I'm fully happy to tinker with my own printer and I can't even easily do that like I could with an Ender 3 with 10x more resources and support.
Moral of the story, don't buy in on proprietary designs too hastily. Creality was a big entity in the space even 2-3 years ago, but I misjudged how they would design a new set of EVERYTHING for their fancy new affordable printer--and proceed to immediately back-track to the Ender 3-based mounting holes and designs immediately after that.
Literally got rug-pulled by a company that is still thriving.
My ender 3 and 5 spend half the time needing fixing. They are for a hobby not a tool...
@@icehawk3442 What about the ender 3 pro?
I've never had any issues with my Ender. It's a beast for fraction of the cost these recommended printers are. Of course it's not the ultimate end tier printer, but for a starter? Better than the recommended ones IMO
(Ender 3 V2 here)
%0 prints into my Ender 3 S1 Pro and zero issues so far, Lmao.
See, I knew Blender before getting a printer.
Enders are fine. You asshats simply can't slice for shit.
XD
When I tell you “I appreciate you!!” It’s an understatement. Thank you so much man. I was almost paralyzed from fear of buying a piece of crap, and almost gave up purchasing one. You are a gentleman and a scholar 🧐
Great video! I got some information from it. I am a NEW beginner. I looked at 3D printers a few years ago and was disenchanted with all the "tinkering". I don't mind a little tinkering, but if that is all you do is tinker and tweak the machine to get it to work properly, that is very frustrating, especially if you are a newbie to the craft. I have a CNC router and that's all I seem to do is tinker and tweak. When it is set-up properly, it is wonderful, but that is rare it seems. Anyway, I was hopeful that these Bambu Labs machines will eliminate most of that.
Couldn't be happier with the stock ender 3, has done pretty much everything I need a printer to do and didn't cost me very much at all.
What's the Stock ender 3?
@@OGDIABLITO The original ender 3. "Stock" means I have not upgraded it, all the parts are as they were from the factory.
@@untrust2033 Thank you for replying back. How's it working out for you?
@@OGDIABLITO Once you get it printing fine you can just leave it alone and it'll give you consistent results every time. The only real design flaw is how the bowden tube can be melted and cause the hotend to jam, but this is apparently easily fixed by upgrading the part (for very cheap). Never got around to doing that and the issue went away. LOL
@@untrust2033I've had the opposite experience, it's given me nothing but headaches, bed level never stays, quality is terrible with under and over extrusion on the same print; if I could do it all over again I would not have bought it again, though obviously experiences may vary
I've been printing for a couple of years now, just bought a new printer and was up all night watching videos...this was the MOST impactful video I watched ALL evening! I've been hot over Bambu labs but this guys explanations are just top tier and really got me going. Great commentary!
That's strange because the guy has no clue what he's talking about. And responds like a scam artist when you confront him. Couple of things you should be aware of.
He compares a MK4 to an X1C whilst they are totally different classes of printers. 1 has: enclosure / accelerometer / filter / camera / microLIDAR / ... the other one does not.
He also suggest the most ridiculous thing ever, that is to buy a MK3S+. When for €100 more you can get the newer MK4 version. Because If you want to upgrade the MK3S+ to MK4 at a later time, you will have to pay €750. So really strange for him to even suggest buying a MK3S+.
@@glp.1337 fr
Thankfully you can still get in on the print farm business because it's just getting started as an industry. The mistake most people make is selling online to nerds, instead of irl to boomers and others who view this as literal magic that may potentially arrive on the market in like thirty years, due to the mass ignorance of society in general. The target market is people who can't work a regular printer. The market online is a totally overlapping venn diagram with "people who would buy their own printer instead of ordering anything". I have tons of success doing it hyperlocally just within my neighborhood. All the people over 40 think I'm literally from the future. You provide the files, I just print and deliver. If you need a file, I can refer you to a freelance 3d modeller I know. Basically the staples print and marketing business model. It's truly shocking how such an overwhelming majority can't even work regular computers and printers yet. When I worked in Staples it was hordes of people who don't even know how to access their email. Take advantage of that
I fit your boomer description almost forty years ago when desktop computing first became "affordable". I was at my engineer's office, and he had an IBM PC. As I watched him do some little CAD task, he allowed me to touch the keyboard. I picked it up, rotated it around a bit, and exclaimed, "How can this do all of that?" He laughed and showed me the big iron box under the desk, while explaining that the keyboard was not the computer.
I realized that I was just one step away from the Neanderthal marveling at fire in regards to my understanding of desktop computing. Because of that experience, I went out and got a PC clone, did some serious study, found a great architectural CAD program, began rudimentary programming, and became a guru of sorts. It wasn't that I was exceptionally smart or anything. It was more that I just put in some time "learning" that other folks didn't. If I knew one little thing and assisted others in resolving problems that they had, then I was capable of magic.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
I think that fits 3D printing right now. It really is in its infancy. I do doubt that it will have anywhere near as widespread an effect as desktop computing, but it will become much more common that most of us can envision.
The box with my new P1S is sitting on its new home after being purchased yesterday. It will remain unopened while I study modeling in FreeCAD. I'll use that box as my motivator.
Oh... I was born a couple of years before the first boomer, and plan to be churning out useful or fun things in the near future. TH-cam videos are proving to be far easier and quicker in regards to "larnin" than old time paper books ever were.
Happy me.
Great video. You hit the main point, the Bambu is a tool that just works and is so easy to use. There are so few steps to printing something compared to other printers.
I've spent a lot of time and money getting my ender 3 pro as polished and reliable as possible with upgraded bed, direct drive, hardened all metal hotend, runout sensor, bed levelling, 32bit board and compiling my own custom firmware, slowly perfecting various slicer profiles for different materials- it's been quite a process and on the plus side I've actually learnt quite a lot from it. It now works well for a ender 3 but it's been a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get it to this point and it still can be a faff to use it.
The Bambu just worked straight out of the box, no upgrades needed, no tweaking, no tinkering, no experimenting, no learning it's foibles. It just works.
I never want to do any of that ever ever. I just want to print 3d modles and parts reliably. So Bambu or prusa it is I guess.
Yes if you started over with you printing farm business. I would recommend the cheapest possible printer with self bed leveling. That way people know if 3d printing is a hobby for them. Proper first layer seems to be the biggest issue people face when coming into this hobby. People dont have the patience or the common sense to figure out how to level a bed manually. I have gotten pretty OK at eyeballing the level, but just got a BL touch clone to even skip that part.
YES! This is the video I wish I'd seen starting out. I got an Ender 3 and spent all my time just working on it. I became an Ender 3 mechanic instead of a creator. And I noticed the guys who actually print their own custom CAD models--like I wanted to--were NOT using Enders. Inevitably they used Prusas or something else. If you watch Ender 3 enthusiast videos, SO MUCH of the content is focused on just fixing and upgrading the damn thing. Take that as a warning!
When I get back into 3d printing it'll be at least at the $2,000 price point where you can EXPECT the print to succeed instead of being pleasantly SURPRISED if it does. Failed 20-hour prints get real old real fast.
Ender 3 must be an acronym for Endless Nuisance, Don't Even Research 😂😵💫😭😭
Also! It's funny that you mention that as my Ender 3 sits disassembled, in a box, in the corner of my room because of the times I've tried to fix it myself based on tutorials or get asynchronous feedback from the TA's in the program I was in back at uni.
I got my Ender 3 from my Stanford Product Design undergrad, specifically the P3D program because I took some of my Mechanical Engineering courses during the height of the pandemic. Basically, what would have been the machine shop class at my parents house but they did teach us about scaled manufacturing processes they wouldn't have otherwise, so there's always a silver lining.
Anyways, which 3D printer are you using now? I'm curious plus I want to get back into physical product design (as digital UI/UX job market is kinda tough rn) Thanks in advance 💫
Jesus you people are dense. Buy a closed source printer and watch what happens when a motor dies :D
If you can't use an allen key and watch an assembly video you're better off with paying a premium for an out of the box printer that you'll have to send away to get fixed and loose 2 weeks of printing.
There's an upgrade kit for the P1p to make it the P1S. Includes panels to enclose it, fans with carbon filter and camera for monitoring
prob would end up more expensive and time consuming
There's also some good fully printable upgrades for the P1S too which can really help close the gap
@@yo_vladit's $100 more. Totally worth it.
No matter what you do, Bambu Labs will be harvesting all your CAD data and cam footage. I know I love it when China steals my data... 🙃
Just picked up a new P1S yesterday and its currently running at 599! Hard to argue with that price for a full enclosure! Arrives tomorrow and I can't wait to get it!
How’s it been man? I’m looking for one at the moment and they’re on special I can see for Black Friday! You think it was worth it? What about the X1C that the jump up?
I have printed about 375 hours with it now! I ended up getting the AMS on the Black Friday sale (and they gave me a 50 dollar gift card since the price of my printer dropped so soon after I bought it!). I have had ZERO issues. Couple times I had to stop a print was because I got oils from my hand on the plate. I just washed it with Dawn real fast and my prints worked perfect! It’s been the best out of the box experience I have ever had. App on my phone rocks. Software on my computer rocks. I’m currently printing all sorts of Christmas ornaments for my kiddos Christmas trees and they love it! I say get one. I can’t speak on the X1 but I adore the P1S. I also priced out the few parts I might need to replace and the most expensive part was the board inside and it was like 50ish bucks! Such a great printer and encourages DIY.
@@joshmm141 Awesome dude I might have to get one then! I live in an apartment, do you have any comments on what it would be like to have it just in my office with me? Are they loud?
I've heard the AMS material might not be good for indoors with fumes etc but the other stuff is ok? Thats only thing stopping me atm but when I saw you could buy ones like the P1S that have their own enclosure I got considering it again.
@@joshmm141 Actually maybe I'm mixing up the AMS system and ABS the material. AMS system seems cool though if I could use it with the PLA material?
@@itsjawdan Yeah so the AMS is the second part you can sit on top that lets you put 4 different colors to print things. Without it, you can run 1 roll of filament on the back spool included. I have only printed with PLA but it will print some of the other materials. I have heard they can smell a little but I can’t comment as I haven’t tried those yet. First thing I did was print the feet that it can sit on which greatly reduced my sounds. I have mine setup in an open nook between our kitchen and laundry room / garage door and it’s really quiet overall. If you want it to be extra quiet, you can slow down the print speed which really makes a difference.
May go with the Bambu as both of my Toyotas were crap ;). One factor for me is the price, and lead times. I love my MK3, as it is reliable, but kind of wanting to support a company that has put forth some effort to make things better for the 3D printing community forcing other companies to do better.
Agree 100%, got tired of manual levelling and troubleshooting addons/quirks. The p1p just works, click print and its done like a regular paper printer.
Thanks to this video I bought my first 3D printer last month, a 2nd hand Prusa Mini+ for a really decent price. It's a real work-pony, and I'm really pleased with the decision to get it rather than an Ender 3. I think one day, if I've got the money, I'll get a Mk 4 or whatever Prusa's latest printer is in a few years, but for now, this Mini does everything I need it to, and it's so easy to service.
Don't get an Ender. It's a decent frame and will work very well if you set it up right, but that's the problem. You have to spend a shitton of time setting it up and tinkering with it instead of printing the things you actually wanted to print.
The main problem with this hobby is that people don't understand that tinkering is only fun if you're doing it for fun. It's not fun if you have to tinker with the damn thing all day just to get it to print something.
This is great advice for someone who isn’t looking to tinker with a printer constantly. I have a Prusa, an Ender 3 v2, and an Anycubic Vyper, and of the three, the Prusa has been my least finicky machine. The Ender also worked great stock, but was a bit too slow for my tastes, so I’ve modded it extensively. The Vyper has been nothing but constant headaches.
After modding the ender 3, do you think it is worth the money compared to the other brands that is more expensive but already comes fully upgraded?
I went for the Prusa MK4, expensive , but it prints right out off the box, absolutely no tinkering.. this is my first 3D printer
@@axeltheodorus18 I had ender, and compared to Prusa, Ender is a complete waste of time and money. Prusa just works :) Mine is going strong for 4 years now
For what its worth dont be so hard on the 3d printing community, plenty of those "dumb" trinkets and stuff are printed to help people calibrate and torture test their machines when learning what all the different settings do because cura slicer has hundreds if not thousands of settings
Nah, feel like most people just print for the sake of printing. I dont think that is bad in itself, but i dont think they print all the randome stuff for «calibration»
@@bisk1407ur right, i would print completely random stuff cause would be cool
@@bisk1407 not my kid printing toys and meme sculptures to boast around his school mates....
He definitely didn't make a sculpture with "69420" "moe lester" "yuri tarded".....
Kids these days having the best machines humanity ever created and using it for hehe funny stuff.....
@@rohankishibe8259like you wouldn't do the exact same thing if you had access to this stuff when you were a kid.
Nah dude most of that junk is desk trash that will end up in someone's yard, the ocean or a landfill.
No one is out here printing fidget toys to push their printer to the edge, cmon.
I just found your channel and it’s fascinating to see the scale of your print farm! I’ve been messing around with 3-D printers for about the last nine years and last year bought a Bambu lab X1c which paid itself off about five times over in the first couple of months! It’s definitely a fantastic machine if you know what use it for. Congratulations on your business, it’s always inspiring to see people making a living doing what they enjoy.👍
how did you make money off of your printer in a few months?
Absolutely bang on. Have the Ender 3 S1 Pro and truly enjoyed the few months of seeing something around the house that needed *something* and being able to just sit down in Fusion and create a solution. That said, I got tired of tinkering with it. Leveling the bed, tuning the settings, etc. That coupled with the iterative nature of creating something from scratch and the time it takes to print 1 of anything slowly killed my interest in doing it. One of the Bambu models are definitely on my radar for purchase soon.
This is exactly my story as well. I have been running my S1 Pro 24/7 now for long enough that I know the next jump up will be worth it.
Yep. E3Max here, love the huge build volume but the iterative process plus dumb mistakes since I'm new to 3D design often makes a project take far longer than it should. The last piece I printed was 8h, and would have been 12h if I had 100% infill, like I wanted. Took me 3 days and 4 attempts to get it right. I ran the same file through the Bambu slicer with the same settings and it said 2.5h. I could have made those same mistakes and finished the project in a day with a Bambu. It's definitely on my list.
Started with an S1 Pro in November and probably spent more time tinkering and maintaining it than actually printing. Got a P1P in March and wish I'd done it sooner.
I 100% recommend getting the P1P if you only ever really print PLA and PETG. It's an amazing piece of kit, incredibly reliable and the best investment I ever made. Although I wish I had gone for the X1C, since all my upgrades have cost me so much, an X1C would only have been 200€ more than my P1P with all upgrades, and offered significantly more. But oh well, with hindsight, you're always smarter.
@@rtardjuice Same here. Just added the Sonic Pad (BIG Mistake) luckily, I can send the SP back. I am tired of tinkering. I have learned a lot in a short time, but I have better thing to do. Ordering an X1C today. Great video, just what I needed to push me over the edge.
I've run both Ender 3D & Anycubic Chiron without issues. Right out of the box, great print quality. I think most issues are with the software and users not being familiar with the settings for their particular job. Learning how to configure settings for a particular filament type and the part takes time no matter what 3D printer is used.
Love my Ender-3 as well
What version do you have?
First time here, by chance, looking for non bias info. It was actually a pleasure to listen to, no nonsense, non overly techie talk. First step into 3d printing world, less daunting now. Thanks!
You got me in the first 2min. The reliability and something just working is something sooo undervalued, not only in 3d printing but I would say in DIY in general. As someone that around 6 years ago started my 3d journey I completely related with what you said. Until I bought my prusa MK3S most of my time I was doing exactly that , buying third party parts to upgrade the printers and constant fixes or calibrations. My prusa in 4 years needed to be fixed once, the thermal sensor, which was a 30 min job. They have great documentation that makes it easy to fix and build the printer. Currently I'm considering to expand and I'm quite divided between bambo and prusa, but due to their track record, quality, open source and constant software upgrades/deploy I'm inclined to go prusa 4, but the tesla looks amazing 😂
I've just gone for the mk4, it an awesome machine with a great pedigree. Bamboo, who ?
I couldn’t agree more on prusa. I had a cheap printer and spent ages printing things to make it work correctly so I could print what I wanted, then bit the bullet and bought a mk3s+, and since I’ve owned the prusa I’ve printed a couple of cool baskets for it, but needed nothing outside of what it came with to make it work. Now I just print the things I actually want to print, and they come out geometrically correct (another problem with my old printer)
Nice review, thank you! I used to do vinyl graphics with a professional grade cutter... this new tech kind of caught my eye. I might want to look to see if my community college offers any courses in 3d printing or modeling.
As a newbie, i watched your video and decided to go with Bambu. One month in and it hasnt stopped printing 24/7. Very happy with my purchase.
question which Bambu did you get? i'm also a complete newbie
@@dravickgarden6765 get the x1 carbon, don't think, just get it :D
@@neelqqqnow you have me thinking…
@@neelqqqdoes it come with the AMS without having to pay extra? what filament brand do you recommend for PETG and PLA
@@xxtomcatxx nah AMS is extra, and I mainly use Bambu filament if I can, it’s more or less the same price as esun and sunlu which i get from amazon, but way better. If you can get stock that is
The ender 3 pro has been doing wonders for me. I was told to look at it as a hobby so I wouldn't get frustrated with the failures. That thought process has been amazing. I have fixed, changed, and currently fixing things. I understand the functions so much better. But now I want to run an etsy shop, so I need reliability. This video has been super helpful
I'm in the same boat as you but with an ender 3 v2. I've decided to switch to resin printer to get more consistent results
Let me start by saying you are absolutely correct for about 90% of the consumers out there, and you are 100% on the nose as to the printers ease of use. I am one of those weird people that wanted to learn how to make everything run better, badder, faster, and ultimately enjoyed the process of learning about the printers more than just for printing. I know that I am in the minority, and I am glad that PRUSA and BAMBU exists for those that just want their production cars (printers) to work, but I am also glad that CREALITY exists so I can make my kit car (printer, to continue the analogy) run amazing. Great vid.
As someone that is thinking about getting into 3DP, this was FANTASTIC. Hit all the points I've been wondering about, even "how am I going to model stuff??" I was pretty sold on getting a Bambu X1C on black friday (hoping for deal), before but this has opened my eyes to the P1P.
How much cheaper are they on Black Friday? Not sure I wanna wait that long lol.
X1c or p1s … tough choice 😢
I've been printing for a few years. I think learning on the old cheapo ender 3 was valuable for me, but even with an engineering background, it took some persistence. I may upgrade to Bambu as I scale my hobby. Great video.
Problem I have is the software. Ever since I upgraded my board on my ender 5 plus, I cant do a print, do to bed won't come up or will crash into nozzle.
Once you upgrade to a Bambu Lab printer, you will likely never touch the Ender 3 again. Make plans to give it to a friend or donate it to a school.
I bought a Prusa Mini and that's EXACTLY what happened. Haven't touched my Ender 3 since. @@EngineerTom
The Ender turned nearly almost as many people off 3D printing for life as it ever helped. It was a cheap, badly supported piece of crap. I would NEVER buy a Creality machine again.
Ender 3 was a big learning curve (especially getting one second hand with no manual) but now that I've got it working well enough that I can run a 2 day print on it with very little chance of failure... I'd like to reduce that print time to 8 hr or less lol. Great learning experience, but a clear starter printer without a bunch more upgrades to it.
71K views and 376K + 1 subscribers when I watched this! And so well deserved. I'm an older woodworker and SketchUp user. I'm finally ready to take the 3D printer plunge. My wife's Podiatrist, is doing 3D printing, so while on an office visit yesterday I asked him which printer he'd recommend and he recommended the Bambu Lab P1P for it's ease of use right out of the box. He also recommended Fusion 360 when I asked him about design software. Thanks for your channel. I'm a new subscriber and it's already apparent that I'll learn a lot from you.
Travis going hard on nerds and dorks. Careful, someone is going to hack your farm and make them start printing middle fingers. Why you make me spend money Travis? I didn't even need a 3D printer but now I have a farm... or at least a garden
😂 just imagining walking into my print farm and seeing rows of middle fingers
40 printers... so 40 letters and the wheel of fortune layout. Now what message to send? 😂
Wait till it becomes a forest!
Not gonna lie, if I walked in and saw that, I would die on the floor laughing. I couldn't even be mad.
Skill issue tbh
Clear information, no BS and most importantly... unaffiliated. Just ordered the P1P based on your video. Thanks!
Relatively new to 3D printing. Did a little research and learned about Bambu and their AMS. Bought my first P1S with AMS a couple months ago. I am now absolutely obsessed and have now ordered 2 more P1S with AMS.
The Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro is a solid choice for beginners. Im a total beginner and got one couple weeks ago and its worked flawlessly. For a little over $200 on sale it comes with many "quality of life" features that make printing high quality parts easy. All I had to do was adjust the tension on some of the rollers and auto level the bed and I was printing amazing quality parts. Having done research beforehand I was frankly shocked at how easy and painless the experience has been.
Thank you from a newbie to 3D printing. Your video made sense to me and is allowing me to go forward on my journey to 3D Printing.
Ive been watching a ton of these videos. But YOURS is he most comprehensive, straight-forward and honest Ive' seen. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Hi, nice video. I have had several printers and now on a Zortrax M200 that I used professionally.
I would definitely get an enclosed model with a filter if your going to run your printer @ home, ABS stinks. I wouldn't get side tracked by 'multi-colour' capability unless you really really think you need it. You rightly highlight first layer success as the #1 beginner problem -nightmare back in the day...
I successfully used "TinkerCad" as the models I needed were not too complex and it has the advantage of being so simple you don't forget how to use it if not designing anything for a while...
Great video. You basically described my entire issue with my Ender 3. I wanted to get into 3D printing to support my hobby of making 3D models and printing them, but it was clear the Ender was gonna have to become a second hobby in and of itself before anything meaningful could be done. The P1P is what I wish I had gotten back in 2020. Maybe I'll grab it...
Were you watching too many cartoons to be able to figure out how to use an Ender 3? What exactly was too difficult with the Ender 3 for you?
@@odinata Its more a matter of annoyance and timesink than difficulty. Constant fighting with bed leveling, issues with firmware when trying to get the auto bed probe to behave after buying it, things like that. Just more friction than the limited amount of time I wanted to dedicate to the task relative to its importance in my overall workflow. I eventually got a resin printer, which, while messier, was a lot easier to set and forget, and get usable results.
Basically any Crapality product is far more trouble than they're worth. From assembly to shoddy build material (my ender 3 would never keep a level bed no matter how much I tried, and the cr6-se tried its hardest to burn our house down...three times!) they just aren't a good choice. A Mingda Magician X is in the same price range as an ender, and you'll get a lot more use from it.
I like this type of feedback. You didn't just say the product isn't good and rant off, you provided a reasonable alternative. I finally got my first house in the past year and want to finally get into 3D printing. 1200$ for a hobby that I may or may not even like is beyond excessive, so as a beginner I have been looking heavily at the 150-300$ price range, instead of a new large debt. Its responses like yours that I use to build my list of possibilities. Thank you.@@MAGA_Patriot2024
@@bigeddthemonk glad to be of assistance. 😉
I always appreciate genuine reviews over sponsored ones. They help me make better choices. Thanks for sharing your insights!
I am getting ready to purchase my first FDM printer... been doing Resin for a few years and made the fun discovery of being allergic to resin recently, so no longer an option. I have been looking at the Bambu P1P and P1S as well as the X1C... thank you for making this video
You become allergic if you are exposed to it and arent filtering out the fumes. What resin were you printing with?
@urjnlegend AnyCubic grey. Not the plant based stuff.
@@mileswelch5136 resin is resin, it's always toxic if you have no ventilation. you've become allergic because you failed basic health protocol and didn't read any warning labels
Thanks for making the video. Its craz you are getting 1 out of 15 people giving it a thumbs down. Its not sponsored, you own a farm of them, and you didnt beat around the bush. Im researching my first printer and deciding between the Bambu and the Elegoo since it's half the price and people comment its reliable. Im just afraid this is another tool that collects dust so I hate to spend $700 and only use it a few times.
My wife got me a Neptune 4 Pro for my birthday and I'm in the process of returning it because of how much of a headache it was. Glad I found this video.
From my perspective, the development at Tesla served as a great example. As I closely followed the market, it appeared that there would be minimal changes. However, Bambu Lab emerged and introduced something entirely distinct from Creality and other competitors in the market. It is important to note that being different does not automatically imply superiority or increased accuracy. It simply implies that other companies, such as Creality or Prusa, are following a similar path. Therefore, there must have been some underlying factors that were previously not fully comprehended. Admittedly, not everyone appreciates the fact that Bambu Lab's printer is not open source. Nevertheless, I believe Bambu Lab's intention is not solely to cater to geeks and professionals but to eventually reach a broader audience. They have successfully taken the initial step towards achieving that with the P1P.
bambulab's work doesn't present anything new that the industry wasn't already doing. They did however, uniquely cost engineer everything, so it's actually affordable to the modern consumer. Much of the components are similar to much higher performance machines, such as the lidar being present in the mark X (which is now a 6 year old product). the idea of a daughter board being as old as stratasys' original patents. the corexy not being unique. Still an awesome company of course.
Curious, what does not being open source have to do with reaching a broader market? It sounds counter intuitive. I imagine more people can work with something that is open source.
Long term reliability of the bambu printers is still unknown. There are issues popping up now that are starting to bring into question how well they hold up. To their credit they seem to have decent customer service. I'm sticking with Prusa, but I also value things like company ethics, open source, community support, etc over just price point. Bambu is a chinese based company and there are 100% privacy concerns when dealing with a network connected device made by a China based country. Just look at what happened with Anker/Eufy recently. I didn't know ANYONE who was iffy on Anker, but now I wont touch them. For me, I would not let a Bambu printer on my network... ever, so the wifi functionality is just deleted from the printer. Additionally, if something breaks, I want to be able to just get a replacement ASAP. With Prusa, it's all open source hardware except for the board (which is unlikely to fail anyways), so I either have stuff on hand already, or can get it in a day instead of waiting for a shipment from Asia. I get your points, but I feel like people who like Bambulab printers just completely gloss over these issues and give them way more leeway than a company who has been active and contributing to our space for what? a decade? Bambu literally forked PrusaSlicer, and the hardware is all closed source. I'll stick with the company that built our hobby and continues to innovate in the open source space.
All good points
Well I an answer part of your comment and clear up some FUD
"Long term reliability of the bambu printers is still unknown. " They shipped their first commercial printer less than a year ago. Unless you have a time machine to peer into the future that is a fallacious argument. Ultimaker has been out for a 12yrs but I wouldn't use them as a litmus of quality.
I have an OG kickstarter X1C with AMS and it has been running fine since AUG of 2022. I am at 3k hours and counting.
I bought EVERY part available from the Bambu lab store to mitigate any down time. I recent contacted support because I wanted an AMS part that requires a new board they will ship under warranty. (AMS is fine but I wanted the updated part)
Contacted support and got it sorted under 24 hrs and part came in less than a week. Bambu lab has warehouses in the states with most deliveries coming in a few days.
Speaking of the parts I have a small warehouse of parts and only swapped out consumables like ptfe tubes or nozzles. The prices for parts are reasonable and there are 3rd parties offering some parts on amazon and aliexpress. Nozzles are $10-15 and hotend assembles for $30-35/, A prusa mk3 hot end kit is $65-$80
"Bambu is a chinese based company and there are 100% privacy concerns when dealing with a network connected device made by a China based country. "
You do not need to connect your printer to the internet unless you want firmware updates.
You can use the printer with no connection with microSD or lan only. I have frequently used the printer on a separate network with ZERO internet and it works fine.
" Bambu literally forked PrusaSlicer," and Prusa slicer forked Slic3r. They are all open source so I am unsure what your comment was suppose to reference. You can use Bambu studio or Orca slicer which are both open source. Prusa has used step file integration and the file cut beyond a horizontal plane, and adding text to a model came from Bambu first. Everyone benefits. There are features I wished Prusa slicer implemented like multiple plates to organize parts and projects.
I can go further but I am not here to convince you but to show that your concerns are not so big when broken down.
*I have a Mk3s+, ender 3, ankermake and X1CC.
@@ashleys3dprintshop I use the X-1 Carbons in a Makerspace and they have genuinely been life changing. So much faster, reliable and WITH the quality of our slower, steadier printers for larger prints. I cannot recommend Bambu enough
This video has become the standard of deciding which printer to buy... all the experienced people in the forums point to this video. Now with some experience with newer machines myself, I also recommend this video. Nicely done! 👍
Damn you hit the nail on the head at the start. I hesitated on getting a 3D printer for a few years because I thought "what would I even do with it?"
Now that I have a few, I'm printing everything from decorative pieces, to functional things like scrapers and drawers, and even things that are simultaneously decorative AND functional, like beautifully sculpted boxes that have visually appealing designs on them, or a desk organizer shaped like a castle with dragons scaling the towers. I have Fusion 360 and I've cut my teeth on taking 2D images and extruding them into 3D objects and successfully printed them, but soon I want to learn more and make a lot of small but useful things to put around the house.
fusion is a love/hate relationship for me. and once you try solidworks or rhino... i can see why people move away from fusion. its just the software that gets people in the door trying it. the stuff ppl don't talk about as much like rhino ... is because it sells itself. they don't need to push it.
I have a Bambu, and two Ender printers. The Bambu is as plug and play as it gets. Awesome machine, but I'd never compare it to a Tesla because I'll never buy a Tesla.
Yes.... Your video started me to think about where to start. I went with the Bambu Labs X1 Carbon. The simplicity of the beginning process sold me and was well worth the few extra dollars. Now the learning begins. Be well....
One other great aspect of Bambu is their replacement parts are surprisingly affordable! I will say though I have been eyeing Sovol lately as the ultimate budget printers.
Great advice. I’m still satisfied to have spent $200 on my first printer as I didn’t even know if I would use it. It turns out, I do like using it for a variety of things. Also, the fact that you need to manually align and troubleshoot a lot helps me understand 3D printing in a way I wouldn’t if I had one of those awesome looking printers from the get go. I think I’ll be revisiting this video when I’m ready to buy a fancier model though!
What have you made on it?
@@jackbusiness7879 I turned some drawings (cartoons) my wife drew (before she went blind) into SVG files and 3D printed them so she could feel her own art. I printed some holders for her body sprays, some fun figurines and nameplates for the kids, and some things that have helped me at work! I think there will be some custom ornaments/baubles on the Christmas tree this year too. :)
I am close to buying a printer, but have a few questions that I haven’t seen addressed yet. Maybe I just have t found the right video yet?
How clean of space do you need. How much does the average user spend on filament. Are there differences in filament types for various end products and how to choose them. What additional accessories are recommended. I’m sure there are more questions that I don’t even know to ask yet.
7:49 damn, I think this is the best transition I've ever seen for an ad.
No joke, it's the best segue I have ever seen. I wasn't even mad when I realized ^^
I have had the Ender 3 Neo for about a month now and I think it was a good starter printer because I did have to learn more about how it works in order to get it to print dimensionally accurate parts. I am an engineer, however, so I geek out on that stuff. I like to know what's going onside. For the price, I think it was a great investment for a starter but am already wanting to dive in and spend a little more. I appreciated this video. I think I will go with the kit for my next printer.
Haha exactly my path, just sold my neo to my little sister, but I'm so glad I learned on that printer first
Im a photographer its was the same for me with that. instead of starting with a $2000 or even a $1000 camera I went with a $600. it was a bad camera so i really had to get good with it to get the images i would easily would have got with a better one, but when I mastered that I got a $2000 one with my skills from my cheap camera I was doing some amazing stuff with the new camera. A lot of the other photographers im friends with had been it just as long as me but all of them jumped right into a high end camera and they all say im better because I have more skills witch was because of the way i learned
Stumbled on this video while trying to decide what printer to buy. The set design, the content, and the delivery are all on point. Thank you!
Yes...I liked and subscribed.
Stopping by to say thank you for this video. Got a P1S with AMS and it's so fun to just PRINT and not have to worry about much else. Only had it a few weeks but it's so nice to have and I'm so excited for the future!
Hi there!
It's been 3 months since your comment, and I'm curious if you're still happy with your purchase?
I was looking at this exact configuration this morning. P1S with AMS.
Even got so far as to do some 3d modelling with OnShape and exported my part (simple box with clip slots) into Bambu's slicer software.
By all accounts the PS1 is great choice.
Was hoping to hear from someone who's had some experience with it.
@@Trag1cMag1c yes!! It is all absolute dream! Still going strong and no real problems to speak of! A lot of issues can be solved by making sure filament is dry.
@@WuLFie40 I pulled the trigger this morning.
Ordered with the AMS. The more research I did, the more compelling this unit became.
Can I ask what climate you're in?
I'm in Brantford, Ontario, Canada. About 100 kms (60 miles) from Toronto.
Humidity might be an issue during our summer months.
But I might set this unit up in our basement, and have our dehumidifier in the room.
@@Trag1cMag1c Great choice! You're gonna love it! I live in the States in the Midwest. I also have it downstairs in the cool basement, and I think that's helped a bit with the filament storage.
I still want to eventually get a purpose built filament dryer. But even factory sealed spools can have a bit of moisture that's been absorbed by the filament.
Overall, the thing is a beast and I think you'll love it!
@@WuLFie40 I appreciate your time!
What types of things do you typically print?
I've already designed some small bird feeders.
Want to try material that'll hold up to the outdoors.
First thing will be storage solutions for our kitchen and bathroom.
A lot of these commenter's don't understand who your audience is.
An ender 3 is more than enough for those trinket makers, but if you are making anything functional, the ender 3 just isn't reliable, consistent, or fast enough.
I bought an ender 3 for making functional prints for my farm and for every 10hours of printing, I have to do at least an hour of maintenence. Even with $600 of upgrades later.
In the long run, a prusa mk3 is more economically viable. Especially for me.
Going back now and looking for a replacement machine, I'm likely getting a p1s due to their reliability, precision, and speed. Something that a low end printer like the ender 3 can't do
My first 3D printer is an ender 5 sometimes I wished I bought a Prusa.
But I have to admit that I do enjoy tinkering with the machine but that is personal.
AMS, camera and enclosure included on X1 Carbon package is great. I actually like the closed Bambu system so when I buy their filament, it just works for me as a hobbyist (I don’t care about the few extra $$ per spool). By way, they sell virtually all of the parts online for a reasonable price so you can fix on your own.
Great video and yes the backdrop is working. 👍
I must say when I think hobbyist, I think $500 range not a $1000+. Then what you explained at 2:32, is exactly what I’ve experienced with the Ender 3 I started with. Life got busy so didn’t use for awhile but when I started back up, it hasn’t enjoyable.
I have a lot of shop organization projects that I want to create so miss the printer.
Yes! The premium for a working printer pays off over time
I have an Ender 3 sitting in pieces in my closet. Your "get into 3d printing vs get into working on 3d printers" is spot on.
Wow I’m looking to get into 3D printing and was looking at the Bamboo1C but after seen your video I’m getting the cheaper Bamboo to start. Thanks once again. I’m glad I found this video.
I am a retiree from the Aerospace field. I have to say I really like this young man and his approach. Straight forward with real facts. I have the CNC laser and CNC router as he mentioned ih the video. Now it is time to consider the 3D printer. What a great video. You are a top shelf instructor.
Hi, I am a junior in high school and I am interested in learning in the aerospace field because I want to create road/race cars that perform good on track. I want to ask, what I should expect when I pursue a degree in aerospace like the typical work environment, and what the things that I should expect to work on the most; I already know about turbulent and laminar airflow, outwash, wake, low and high pressure regions and how that can generate lift/negative lift, I'm into F1 and endurance racing, so every now and then I look at technical insight videos on how the air flow of the car helps create downforce and reduce drag. Is this a good start that I should continue or is there much more that I should take, like maybe learning CFD? What are some other things I should learn if I want to get a good understanding before I go to college, like are there other tools and software that I can learn?
I have a prusa mini+. Best purchase I made so far. If I get a larger printer, it'll be another Prusa. It just works.
I'm not going to lie, that was the best segue into a sponsor ad I have ever seen! Oh, and your studio set up looks amazing! The 3D Printing info was great too!
Factor's sponsored ads are almost always good. If they had better options for avoiding allergens I would have ordered a box already.
That was an awesome run down and so gratifying to hear someone in the industry telling me about things from a functional application point of view! I am yet to buy my first printer but loved the confidence building. As a retired research scientist, I have done the comparative research and the Bumbu P1P was my pick all-be-it for the most bang for my buck, economic reasons. Thank you for the video and now subscribed!😃
carbon rails degrading is s real problem with the model
I'm sorry you got duped. The video is full of misinformation.
@@glp.1337like what? I’m trying but a new 3d printer. That’s not going to breakdown a lot
@@josesalas6678 His comparisons were completely misguided and wrong. His advise to still buy an MK3S+ is absurd. If you are looking to buy a new 3D printer I'd advise you to buy a Bambulabs printer. You could get a very cheap, beginner friendly printer (A1 Mini) for around €250.
The A1, P1P/P1S are great options if you want to have a bigger build plate.
The X1C is a masterpiece.
Any of these printers will keep you printing for thousands of hours with minimal/no issues.
My first printer was - and still is - the Ender 5S1. Though I've seen a lot of criticism, it has been a completely reliable printer and I can honestly say that I've only had 1 major print fail since I bought it. The biggest downside for me is that in order to get quality prints, I have to slow it down to 40/50mms - anything faster gets sloppy. My next printer will be a Bambu and I'm looking forward to the speed.
It was worth flying your friend out to help with lighting and upgrading the space. These videos look SOOOO good in your new space!
Well this one you're a little too saturated (alot of it is also probably your red lighting in the room), but overall every one shot in the redone office looks great.
Though I still hope to see some shop greatness shot in the garage
Thank you! Definitely need to fine tune things
@@ShopNation wait. Are we friends?
@@wittworks🤣 legend