The 3D Printer I'd buy if I started over
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3D printing can be intimidating but it doesn't have to! In this video I show you exactly which printer I would recommend to any beginner, what to do next, and how to get yourself hooked on the tech. I believe that a 3D printer is a valuable tool addition to ANY shop.
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Finally someone that understands that 3D printers are a tool. So many 3D printing channels treat it like its the endgame where as for the rest of us its the starting point
Yeah because everyone get the ender 3 when you are a beginner and then you find your self fixing the machine every day.
It is good that we have here great people who use 3d printing... for what? If you can not use screwdriver, why do you need 3d printer? What for? To print Anime figures? Why even bother, just order one on a print farm. No?
Depends on the person. I like it as a tool, I rather spend my time modeling, than working the printer. For my brother, who has always been about tinkering with stuff, likes changing everything up, and than rarely use it.
There is no right or wrong, but I will say this, yes there is a lot of content out there how you can improve your printer etc, but let's be honest, what other videos should they make? Do 3d model reviews? Sure some storage systems etc get some attention, but aside from that, people want to know more about their printer.
And even if you are someone who uses it as a tool, there are still things you want to improve about your printer, or add some customization to.
You think differently when you just like to own a 3D printer with no real need for it.
Exactly, it is not much different from a CNC mill or router, you get one as a tool to make other things, the CNC mill is not the purpose of getting one, the purpose is to use it to make other things.
I just bought my first printer about 3 weeks ago, an ender 3 v2 neo. I've already printed repair parts for a machine at work, joycon repair parts, etc. I've already swapped the firmware, converted it to direct drive and have started learning to use carbon fiber reinforced filament for wear resistance. I am definitely enjoying the journey.
Although a Prusa was on my short list of models, in the end, the neo was the only one I could afford. If I can start to monetize this in my area, I will definitely be looking at the P1P - that speed is amazing.
I just found your channel and it’s fascinating to see the scale of your print farm! I’ve been messing around with 3-D printers for about the last nine years and last year bought a Bambu lab X1c which paid itself off about five times over in the first couple of months! It’s definitely a fantastic machine if you know what use it for. Congratulations on your business, it’s always inspiring to see people making a living doing what they enjoy.👍
I've been printing for a couple of years now, just bought a new printer and was up all night watching videos...this was the MOST impactful video I watched ALL evening! I've been hot over Bambu labs but this guys explanations are just top tier and really got me going. Great commentary!
That's strange because the guy has no clue what he's talking about. And responds like a scam artist when you confront him. Couple of things you should be aware of.
He compares a MK4 to an X1C whilst they are totally different classes of printers. 1 has: enclosure / accelerometer / filter / camera / microLIDAR / ... the other one does not.
He also suggest the most ridiculous thing ever, that is to buy a MK3S+. When for €100 more you can get the newer MK4 version. Because If you want to upgrade the MK3S+ to MK4 at a later time, you will have to pay €750. So really strange for him to even suggest buying a MK3S+.
I bought a P1P after dealing with a low cost unit and I cannot recommend it enough. All the constant headaches are gone and I can just get things printed out. I am printing constantly & bonus it is faster and quality is so much better. Additionally there is a Opensource fork of the Bambu Labs slicer with all the features and added calibration tools that really gets these things dialed in.
So true
I have completely stopped using my other 3d printers once I got a P1P. It's been 6 months and I dread using my creality machines if my P1P is busy.
My plan is to get a P1P alongside a Kingroon KP3S Pro V2 (not gonna lie, i just want to buy it because is cute).
@@kongchho8547 Have you had to fix your P1P much?
@@lorcster6694 Not really. Just cleaned the rods once since it gets dusty in my office. But with the P1S it's enclosed so that's not an issue. I have at least 2000 hours of printing on it. However, it's different for everyone but there's a reason why almost every 3d print youtuber has one in background.
The new right answer is the P1S. It's enclosed and works with the AMS multi-spool system for $699. Basically the X1 Carbon without the Lidar and fancy touch screen for $450 less. Just ordered one.
I moved up from an Ender 3v2 to the P1S and I love it.
@@slosubies4845 I have an Ender 3v2 as well, but it pretty much stays on the operating table.
And it uses 1300 W. My Mega S was 115$, uses about 150 W and is enough for a beginner and occasional prints.
@@DanSlotea I'm not familiar with the Mega S, but since you're (justifiably) bringing up electricity cost, a faster printer that fails less often may spend less time ultimately printing, and thus use less electricity over time, just more when you need it.
Where I live a P1S is just about 10x the price of an Ender 3
As someone looking to move up to bigger and better from their Ender 3, I appreciated this video! I especially appreciated your understanding that I want to 3D print for my hobbies, not as a hobby.
Idk i have an ender 3. But i also have worked on cartesian robots professionally so i guess thats why i feel like upgrading my printer myself rather than buying a new one. Plus it was a gift from my lovely wife.
@@johnhummel99build an annex
@@johnhummel99I think is exactly the pseudo divide in the market of consumers. Some people want to buy and play with their machines, while some people just want to use them. I absolutely hate my ender 3 v2, but I dont regret buying it at all.
Bambu A1 combo if you just want to hobby print.
@@Loot_OW Same, I spend more time getting it setup then actually using it. Im starting to use it more and its such a drag. Trying to decide on the Prusa or the Bambu still.
Thanks for the video! I just was handed down a 3D Printer. Put it together this past weekend and am TOTALLY lost as to how to actually print something lol. It just is so overwhelming... doesn't help that the printer I got is about 8 years old and has very little presence online (and I think the company no longer exists lol).
Anyway, I do appreciate videos like this that make it a bit simpler - the entire thing. Thanks again!
I couldn’t agree more on prusa. I had a cheap printer and spent ages printing things to make it work correctly so I could print what I wanted, then bit the bullet and bought a mk3s+, and since I’ve owned the prusa I’ve printed a couple of cool baskets for it, but needed nothing outside of what it came with to make it work. Now I just print the things I actually want to print, and they come out geometrically correct (another problem with my old printer)
I bought a Prusa back in 2014 when they where just taking off. Still works great. I do have to manually level the bed. I use Blender to create the parts I want to print. Blender does have a learning curve but well worth it in the end.
What you said about how manually setting the print bed and adding 3rd party components is a brain curiosity killer is the truest thing I’ve heard all year. As an ender 3 owner I’ve lost so much interest in 3D printing, but now I want to buy myself something from prusa or bambulab. Beautiful video
Same here, I've had an Ender 3 Pro for probably 3-4 years now.. It was fun at first, but damn near just felt like a tedious gimmick after a while. But I learned enough from it to impress my boss, he told me to choose any printer for our department and he was putting me in exclusive control of it. In the last 2 months, I've gotten more work out of our new X1-Carbon than I did in the entire life of my Ender 3 and I absolutely love the thing. Hell, sometimes I go in on Saturdays just to screw with it.
Voron. Daksh looks promising as a toolchanger and ercf is very similar in function to AMS.
Yep, I got a Sovol SV06 for my first printer. While it worked great for awhile, it eventually got to the point of having a new issue every week along with constantly needing to re-calibrate it, get a new part to improve it, or dig for hours to try to find an answer to some obscure problem. I just got sick of this at a certain point and haven't printed anything for months, but I finally pulled the trigger on a Bambu Lab P1S and can't wait to (hopefully) print without all the constant troubleshooting
@@ericosborne4122 After a month of owning the p1p, I’ve been printing nonstop without any problems so far. You will not regret this
I ordered an ender plugged it in to do a test and then I mailed it back and got a kobra 2 pro. It blew my mind how much better it was for the same price
I'm 56yo and just started. Mate thanks for the information, yes I have had some failures, but have started to sort them out. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
I started on an Ender 3 kit, bought it in 2017 and it has been phenomenal this whole time especially for the price. I paid 180 bucks back then and the prints out of the box were great.
I saw some videos of people showing modifications and upgrades the Ender 3 would need in order to run smooth and consistent but luckily I was able to print most of them with that same printer just like that lol
Bed levelling was never an issue for me somehow. I always do the thing where you use a piece of paper and make sure the pressure is the same in all corners, really not a big deal but I see how people can get it wrong. It's just one of those things you have to get right and you can't skip that part.
I've got some heavier bed springs coming for $6 and I've got a direct drive for $20 that I have yet to fit. Bed leveling has never been an issue with the glass bed plate.
@@potrzebieneuman4702about the bed springs - what are they supposed to achieve exactly? I'm running stock springs and have no idea how making them stiffer / heavier would improve anything.
@@Chretze like you I'm not having any problems with the stock springs, but for AU$6 I thought why not. I think the reason many change their springs is to do with the frequency of bed leveling but I've also found that a glass bed reduces the number of bed leveling as well. I'll try it for $6 and see what happens.
@@potrzebieneuman4702 I see, cheers mate!
Great video. One of the best ways to determine how reliable a 3D printer is, put it in a makerspace. There you will get 10's of people who range from noobs, to experts, to people who think they're experts. If the printer can survive a couple weeks, it is remarkable. I agree, the Prusa is considered super reliable, but it was our most troublesome in the makerspace. The TAZ did quite well. A couple months ago we got rid of all the various machines and bought 3 P1Ps. They have been incredible. The only print failures we have seen were do to bad filament, incorrect bed section (wrong temperature) and poorly designed models. No nozzle clogs at all! Everyone is happy with the P1Ps, which is really something in a makerspace with 300 people.
Damn you hit the nail on the head at the start. I hesitated on getting a 3D printer for a few years because I thought "what would I even do with it?"
Now that I have a few, I'm printing everything from decorative pieces, to functional things like scrapers and drawers, and even things that are simultaneously decorative AND functional, like beautifully sculpted boxes that have visually appealing designs on them, or a desk organizer shaped like a castle with dragons scaling the towers. I have Fusion 360 and I've cut my teeth on taking 2D images and extruding them into 3D objects and successfully printed them, but soon I want to learn more and make a lot of small but useful things to put around the house.
fusion is a love/hate relationship for me. and once you try solidworks or rhino... i can see why people move away from fusion. its just the software that gets people in the door trying it. the stuff ppl don't talk about as much like rhino ... is because it sells itself. they don't need to push it.
As a newbie, i watched your video and decided to go with Bambu. One month in and it hasnt stopped printing 24/7. Very happy with my purchase.
question which Bambu did you get? i'm also a complete newbie
@@dravickgarden6765 get the x1 carbon, don't think, just get it :D
@@neelqqqnow you have me thinking…
@@neelqqqdoes it come with the AMS without having to pay extra? what filament brand do you recommend for PETG and PLA
@@xxtomcatxx nah AMS is extra, and I mainly use Bambu filament if I can, it’s more or less the same price as esun and sunlu which i get from amazon, but way better. If you can get stock that is
Great information! As someone who has been looking at the Bambu Lab printers for a while, this is very helpful. Also, I'm digging the new studio setup! It looks awesome!
I started with an ender 3 v2, had a good amount of fun before I got tired of failed prints on a slow base printer. Had no desire to learn upgrading, and bought an x-1 carbon w/AMS. The x-1 carbon has been so damn amazing. I can iterate designs as needed, and they print so damn beautifully fast. I love it.
Same here. Finally getting into designing and printing as a hobby and not just waste time on tuning and fixing that piece of crap
@@nipshardaf Nothing wrong with enders if you know what yer doing... A better fan and ditch the plastic extruder and it works fine. The one I have at work prints 8 hours a day 5 days a week without issue so... yea. Also a slight difference between a $300 printer and a $2000+ printer 😂
@@Lomax81agree
Seriously my ender is a workhorse and I paid like 125 for it@@Lomax81
I am getting ready to purchase my first FDM printer... been doing Resin for a few years and made the fun discovery of being allergic to resin recently, so no longer an option. I have been looking at the Bambu P1P and P1S as well as the X1C... thank you for making this video
You become allergic if you are exposed to it and arent filtering out the fumes. What resin were you printing with?
@urjnlegend AnyCubic grey. Not the plant based stuff.
I have had an ender 3 for years and every time I use it, I have to mess with it (it usually collects dust) and now that I'm back in the firearms space and need to test designs out, I need something fast and easy with a lot of material capabilities, and you just made the decision easy for me. Thank you so much!
My Ender was almost my last printer. It was hard to use, constantly going wrong, and Creality sucks. Then I bought a Guider 2, then a Carbon X1. The Carbon was everything I had dreamed of in a printer.
If you already have the e3, it doesn't take too much to turn it into a great machine. I nearly went down the same road but fell into the rabbit hole along the way.
@@parsonk4041 I was never interested in becoming a printer systems engineer. All I wanted was to print stuff. The Bambu got me there.
I built my Mk3S+ - thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the insights into the workings of the machine were invaluable. I did have one problem (one of the PSU connectors was reversed from the factory), but Prusa's tech support sorted the issue after a couple of rounds of emails and troubleshooting.
And it's chugging away as I type.
Prusa was my first printer after watching family members struggle with cheaper printers. Now i have an xl and its amazing. Probably overkill.
@@scooterpinball i don't really get the thing with "struggle with cheap printers" thing, mine was 150 bucks work perfectly fine. Printed things from big to small as 6mm (gears- for a laminator, replacement gears for a face trimmer) to Glass shower hinge replacement parts to decoration, wall mounted shelves/phone holders etc etc So hobby level stuff in general but i have NEVER had any issues with it. Maybe some tiny "problem" with overhang capabilities but nothing supports, or general design work to minimize overhangs can't fix. Ain't gonna spend 1k+ for a hobby machine that a 150 one can do just as good with a TINY bit more effort.
Absolutely bang on. Have the Ender 3 S1 Pro and truly enjoyed the few months of seeing something around the house that needed *something* and being able to just sit down in Fusion and create a solution. That said, I got tired of tinkering with it. Leveling the bed, tuning the settings, etc. That coupled with the iterative nature of creating something from scratch and the time it takes to print 1 of anything slowly killed my interest in doing it. One of the Bambu models are definitely on my radar for purchase soon.
This is exactly my story as well. I have been running my S1 Pro 24/7 now for long enough that I know the next jump up will be worth it.
Yep. E3Max here, love the huge build volume but the iterative process plus dumb mistakes since I'm new to 3D design often makes a project take far longer than it should. The last piece I printed was 8h, and would have been 12h if I had 100% infill, like I wanted. Took me 3 days and 4 attempts to get it right. I ran the same file through the Bambu slicer with the same settings and it said 2.5h. I could have made those same mistakes and finished the project in a day with a Bambu. It's definitely on my list.
Started with an S1 Pro in November and probably spent more time tinkering and maintaining it than actually printing. Got a P1P in March and wish I'd done it sooner.
I 100% recommend getting the P1P if you only ever really print PLA and PETG. It's an amazing piece of kit, incredibly reliable and the best investment I ever made. Although I wish I had gone for the X1C, since all my upgrades have cost me so much, an X1C would only have been 200€ more than my P1P with all upgrades, and offered significantly more. But oh well, with hindsight, you're always smarter.
@@rtardjuice Same here. Just added the Sonic Pad (BIG Mistake) luckily, I can send the SP back. I am tired of tinkering. I have learned a lot in a short time, but I have better thing to do. Ordering an X1C today. Great video, just what I needed to push me over the edge.
7:49 damn, I think this is the best transition I've ever seen for an ad.
No joke, it's the best segue I have ever seen. I wasn't even mad when I realized ^^
I have children that bought a 3d printer personally I didn't see the value in buying something so expensive it seemed like just another complicated toy they wouldn't really use. But now I am researching this because I am making my own sock knitting machine that to buy new would be $1200 but I can make for $60. I love that you mentioned the kit printer because one of the main problems my kids run into is how to problem solve when something goes wrong. I showed them your video and they were really intrigued as am I. Thanks for that.
Honestly, I bought my first printer for 1 purpose and that was to 3D print replacement parts for my RC cars when I broke them. Now, I 3D print and 3D model and make all kinds of things. Specialized tools and jigs, ham radio antenna parts, cases for electronics, tool organizers for all of my drills and batteries, shelf brackets, non conductive nuts/bolts/screws/washers, cable management devices for my racks at work and I even designed and 3D printed my own vertical axis wind turbine as a low cost green energy project. The point is, you start looking at stuff and thinking "I bet I could improve that" or "I bet I could print that" A LOT.
Thank You! As an older general contractor, I've been considering a 3d printer for years for both my business & my hobbies but I struggle with computers (heck- i can't even make a simple excel spreadsheet without help). Your information is extremely helpful and I'm going to save this vid for when I do "take the plunge"(soon).
Its a difficult road but a road worth taking
This is great advice for someone who isn’t looking to tinker with a printer constantly. I have a Prusa, an Ender 3 v2, and an Anycubic Vyper, and of the three, the Prusa has been my least finicky machine. The Ender also worked great stock, but was a bit too slow for my tastes, so I’ve modded it extensively. The Vyper has been nothing but constant headaches.
After modding the ender 3, do you think it is worth the money compared to the other brands that is more expensive but already comes fully upgraded?
I went for the Prusa MK4, expensive , but it prints right out off the box, absolutely no tinkering.. this is my first 3D printer
YES! This is the video I wish I'd seen starting out. I got an Ender 3 and spent all my time just working on it. I became an Ender 3 mechanic instead of a creator. And I noticed the guys who actually print their own custom CAD models--like I wanted to--were NOT using Enders. Inevitably they used Prusas or something else. If you watch Ender 3 enthusiast videos, SO MUCH of the content is focused on just fixing and upgrading the damn thing. Take that as a warning!
When I get back into 3d printing it'll be at least at the $2,000 price point where you can EXPECT the print to succeed instead of being pleasantly SURPRISED if it does. Failed 20-hour prints get real old real fast.
Ender 3 must be an acronym for Endless Nuisance, Don't Even Research 😂😵💫😭😭
Also! It's funny that you mention that as my Ender 3 sits disassembled, in a box, in the corner of my room because of the times I've tried to fix it myself based on tutorials or get asynchronous feedback from the TA's in the program I was in back at uni.
I got my Ender 3 from my Stanford Product Design undergrad, specifically the P3D program because I took some of my Mechanical Engineering courses during the height of the pandemic. Basically, what would have been the machine shop class at my parents house but they did teach us about scaled manufacturing processes they wouldn't have otherwise, so there's always a silver lining.
Anyways, which 3D printer are you using now? I'm curious plus I want to get back into physical product design (as digital UI/UX job market is kinda tough rn) Thanks in advance 💫
Jesus you people are dense. Buy a closed source printer and watch what happens when a motor dies :D
If you can't use an allen key and watch an assembly video you're better off with paying a premium for an out of the box printer that you'll have to send away to get fixed and loose 2 weeks of printing.
Me personally I am glad I started off with a cheaper printer (neptune 4 pro) i've learned a lot about how to fix to diagnose issues, change a nozzle etc. etc.
Immediately after a couple of prints I was running into issues so I had to look for answers (all my first layers started to fail)
Once you start off with cheaper printers you will be able to appreciate more , something like a mk4 . Once I do get more money i wish to buy a mk4 (or a mk5 if it comes out) simply because it's open source and tinkering it pretty fun
I'm decent with SketchUp for drafting. Been eyeing the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro. Thinking it would be best to start off with as a first 3D Printer. Sounds like it has been working out well for you other than some beginner issues?
@@chrisalister2297 I would recommend going for a BambuLab A1 or A1 mini.
I agree on all points and own a Bambu Lab X1-Carbon. I have 5 other printers as I got into 3D printing years ago.
I will add that having cheap printers and learning how they work and modifying them to be better, I learned a great deal. That being said, I understand some people don't want to learn and just want to print.
recommend the best printer to get started on? budget doesnt matter i dont want a cheap one just to save money but takes more time to learn and get familiar with the machines, money is no option i just want the easiest to use with best results and ability to know what the limits are in 3d printing...the p1p good enough for a first timer without being overwhelmed and discouraged to keep going? ive seen lots of ppl praising bambu
@@shane_wc without out a doubt the easiest to use is Bambu. It just works
I'm tired of constantly tinkering with my ender 3. So you're saying I'll love a bambu ? Lol
@@mattice9083 I guarantee it. It's like going from an old tube TV without cable to a 4K OLED
@@Bennett_Lab I've been working on a 3d printed flight yoke and pedals for weeks now cause I've been wasting days trying to level and calibrate my ender 3. I just can't waste 2 hours calibrating and 5 hours waiting on the print only to have it be like 70% decent lol can't wait to buy one
One other great aspect of Bambu is their replacement parts are surprisingly affordable! I will say though I have been eyeing Sovol lately as the ultimate budget printers.
Thanks to this video I bought my first 3D printer last month, a 2nd hand Prusa Mini+ for a really decent price. It's a real work-pony, and I'm really pleased with the decision to get it rather than an Ender 3. I think one day, if I've got the money, I'll get a Mk 4 or whatever Prusa's latest printer is in a few years, but for now, this Mini does everything I need it to, and it's so easy to service.
Don't get an Ender. It's a decent frame and will work very well if you set it up right, but that's the problem. You have to spend a shitton of time setting it up and tinkering with it instead of printing the things you actually wanted to print.
The main problem with this hobby is that people don't understand that tinkering is only fun if you're doing it for fun. It's not fun if you have to tinker with the damn thing all day just to get it to print something.
So back story, I sold my old 3D printer as it only had a 150*150*150 build plate and it was my first to learn how to design and 3D print. So, time for a new one as I had some prototypes to build and I saw this video and boom, pulled the trigger and bought a P1S with the added cabinet..Absolutely amazing, the slicer is so easy to use once you calibrate it and the speed and finish is amazing. Can’t wait to print the prototypes and have the engineering say “What, noooo wayyyy”. Thanks
People who buy products and review them always earn my trust. I dont like sponsored products. Thank you Sir for your valuable information.
This was a huge help for me, I have been kicking this around for several years.
I have a CNC and I have a laser and am always looking at small upgrades people have done, even a wrench holder and then they offer you the file.
I really wanted to be under 1k to start, as I am still paying for a CNC and a Laser.
P1P was 599.00
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Of course, I spent nearly 800 because I mean what’s the point of getting no filament
I've been 3D printing since 2018 owning a Prusa MK2. I done lots of research back then and chose Prusa. Fast forward to today and I'm still a Prusa owner with the MK3s (Soon to be MK4). One thing I can say about Prusa is you're not left out of the loop with continued updates making your printer better. When they bring out a new printer there's always an upgrade path. Also 3d printing is not just about the hardware, it's also about the software and Prusa slicer has come on leaps and bounds over the last 5 years with contiued updates and more and more features. The Prusa is quite frankly a work horse. It just goes on and on with virtually no issues. I've never had to replace anything on my printers. Customer service is spot on too. Just wish their lead times were not so long. But good things comes to those who wait.
Whatever floats your benchy my dude
As someone that is thinking about getting into 3DP, this was FANTASTIC. Hit all the points I've been wondering about, even "how am I going to model stuff??" I was pretty sold on getting a Bambu X1C on black friday (hoping for deal), before but this has opened my eyes to the P1P.
How much cheaper are they on Black Friday? Not sure I wanna wait that long lol.
X1c or p1s … tough choice 😢
Great advice. Ive owned 9 printers total now, including 4 prusa, and i have touched nothing but my bambu P1p since getting it. Better, faster, cheaper. Prusa while requires less intervention, maintenance etc... than an Ender, still needed far more adjustment than basically 0 on the bambu.
It's the rule of FDM printing.. the more you initially spend, the less investment of time/money you have down the line with configuration.
Looking to sell any of the second hand used ones you don’t use?
Started with a P1P earlier this year. Worked flawlessly and it was fast. I was so impressed I added an X1C w/AMS. I use this as a tool, not a hobby so it needs to run and I don't have time to tweak like my previous 3D printer.
I think this is what the folks that crack on the Bambu stuff don't get - there's a whole bunch of us out there that want to print as a hobby or a source for parts. Not all of us want to have to constantly tweak the machines to get acceptable results. I'm a mechanic, I don't want my hobby to be another frustrating job. Bambu solved that.
The AMS is a game changer! The multi-color print options opened up a whole new areas of ideas for me and they are paying off.
This is the reason why I bought the x1c. I didn't want to tinker to no end. I got other stuff I want to do or have to do. This was my second printer and I love it. I've had more successful prints than bad with minimal tinkering. And I got the ams which I haven't even fully used yet but I do like the potential things I can print with it.
@@the_naP This. We have around a million dollars of CNC machines and didn't need a project. So we bought an X1C and it's been largely without issue.
Just got the P1S combo and I honestly can say it's the best bang for your buck. Even without multicolor, the AMS handling auto-switching filament feature when running out is worth it imo. All for $949 which is cheaper than an assembled MK4
My experience with my ender 3 has been awesome. I had very minor things to work out that could happen with any printer. This machine has been solid and reliable and the quality is impressive for the price point.
Which version do you have?
I bought an Ender 3 v3 KE. Fast, automatic bed leveling, hot bed, input shaping capable, hotend to handle a wide variety of filaments, and all the hacky support community of the creality enders, so its moddable.
Not as flashy as the bamboo, but half the price even of the cheaper bamboo (300 usd)
I think its great if you don't know yet how much you want to print, but if you do, you want your options. Ofc these bamboo stuff are also really great, especially if you just want to print and have the money.
Ive been printing for a couple of years now but this video was still so good! Very well presented and explained, and good points.
I've run both Ender 3D & Anycubic Chiron without issues. Right out of the box, great print quality. I think most issues are with the software and users not being familiar with the settings for their particular job. Learning how to configure settings for a particular filament type and the part takes time no matter what 3D printer is used.
Love my Ender-3 as well
What version do you have?
Great video, I've had the MK3 since they first came out and it just keeps on working. Hundreds of spools later and still no real issues!
I have had the Ender 3 Neo for about a month now and I think it was a good starter printer because I did have to learn more about how it works in order to get it to print dimensionally accurate parts. I am an engineer, however, so I geek out on that stuff. I like to know what's going onside. For the price, I think it was a great investment for a starter but am already wanting to dive in and spend a little more. I appreciated this video. I think I will go with the kit for my next printer.
Haha exactly my path, just sold my neo to my little sister, but I'm so glad I learned on that printer first
Im a photographer its was the same for me with that. instead of starting with a $2000 or even a $1000 camera I went with a $600. it was a bad camera so i really had to get good with it to get the images i would easily would have got with a better one, but when I mastered that I got a $2000 one with my skills from my cheap camera I was doing some amazing stuff with the new camera. A lot of the other photographers im friends with had been it just as long as me but all of them jumped right into a high end camera and they all say im better because I have more skills witch was because of the way i learned
Great "bedside manner"; simple, information solidly presented. No fluff, and easy to understand. Good job!
Travis going hard on nerds and dorks. Careful, someone is going to hack your farm and make them start printing middle fingers. Why you make me spend money Travis? I didn't even need a 3D printer but now I have a farm... or at least a garden
😂 just imagining walking into my print farm and seeing rows of middle fingers
40 printers... so 40 letters and the wheel of fortune layout. Now what message to send? 😂
Wait till it becomes a forest!
Not gonna lie, if I walked in and saw that, I would die on the floor laughing. I couldn't even be mad.
Skill issue tbh
Great video! I got some information from it. I am a NEW beginner. I looked at 3D printers a few years ago and was disenchanted with all the "tinkering". I don't mind a little tinkering, but if that is all you do is tinker and tweak the machine to get it to work properly, that is very frustrating, especially if you are a newbie to the craft. I have a CNC router and that's all I seem to do is tinker and tweak. When it is set-up properly, it is wonderful, but that is rare it seems. Anyway, I was hopeful that these Bambu Labs machines will eliminate most of that.
I went with the P1S/AMS combo after a bunch of research. And it was so beyond worth it in my opinion. 100% agree with your suggestion.
My Ender 3 v2 worked from the moment I turned it on. I like to tinker, so I have modified it a little over time. It's reliable, prints well (I rarely have a failed print and it's usually my fault) and maybe a little slow, but I'm like most people and don't have $1000 or more to plunk down to get started. Unless I'm going to do commercial printing, I'll stick with it.
I bought an Ender S1. It wasn't a steep learning curve. I was printing well from the get go. I think I went a little overboard. I should of went with a Ender 3 v2. I'm so glad I didn't buy a Prusa.
@@poopoppy Creality printers have a lot of issues these days and the company is using the brand name to trick people into buying their printers, when you can get much higher quality ones for the same prices or less
@@blytical Yeah, probably. They are famous for poor quality control.
But you learn about how printers work, and most issues are easy fix, because of how big the creality community is.
1000 bucks on a first printer is overboard. I spent 400 on my S1, and that was a bit much.
As handy, and as cool as 3d printers are. Chances are they won't get used all that often.
It's not about any brand in particular. It's more the price point.
Ender 3 v3 SE looks pretty damn good for 200-220 dollar
@@TheMrMultione I actually just bought that one, and haven't had any issues. Set-up was incredibly easy, and the auto bed leveling is super handy. I was running perfects prints in under 20min. I have an Ender 3 Pro as well, so I knew a little about parts and stuff if I did run into problems, or wanted to mod it. But as is, it honestly doesn't need any mods, unless you plan on Printing more demanding filaments like metal.
There's an upgrade kit for the P1p to make it the P1S. Includes panels to enclose it, fans with carbon filter and camera for monitoring
prob would end up more expensive and time consuming
There's also some good fully printable upgrades for the P1S too which can really help close the gap
@@yo_vladit's $100 more. Totally worth it.
No matter what you do, Bambu Labs will be harvesting all your CAD data and cam footage. I know I love it when China steals my data... 🙃
I messed around with a DIY Delta printer about 6 years ago. Got it all together just to get stuck at the setup/calibration stage and gave up on it. Sold it for half of what I bought it for and haven't messed with anything else since.
However, now I am doing research to take the plunge into getting a unit for shoots-and-hoots. All this is to say that im gravitating towards the Bambulabs X1. It might be middle of the year before I can actually commit, but it pays to watch these videos now.
I started printing a month ago with a Neptune 3 pro and so far no complaints from the machine, it was a good price I thought to get my feet wet the beginning was a nightmare and I wanted to toss it out the window. But with patience and a lot of videos I print something daily now. I’m currently printing d&d sword dice holder and it’s coming out great. Definitely going to look at one of those for the next upgrade
Definitely interested in this. Just for myself, I want to be able to print fixtures for hanging tools on my wall, or make that little part to fix a garden cart... etc. I see so many uses. I so completely suck at 3d modeling though! I might have to see about that education you recommend. I'm definitely going to focus on either the Bambu Lab or the Prusa, so you've at least narrowed down my search. I can't thank you enough for that!!!
Couldn't be happier with the stock ender 3, has done pretty much everything I need a printer to do and didn't cost me very much at all.
What's the Stock ender 3?
@@OGDIABLITO The original ender 3. "Stock" means I have not upgraded it, all the parts are as they were from the factory.
@@untrust2033 Thank you for replying back. How's it working out for you?
@@OGDIABLITO Once you get it printing fine you can just leave it alone and it'll give you consistent results every time. The only real design flaw is how the bowden tube can be melted and cause the hotend to jam, but this is apparently easily fixed by upgrading the part (for very cheap). Never got around to doing that and the issue went away. LOL
@@untrust2033I've had the opposite experience, it's given me nothing but headaches, bed level never stays, quality is terrible with under and over extrusion on the same print; if I could do it all over again I would not have bought it again, though obviously experiences may vary
I just found this video after I bought my Mk4. I did buy mine on black friday for $799 as the kit. It also came with a textured steel sheet, a spool of prusament, and free shipping. Still pretty excited to get mine soon!
The MK4 is a great printer and Prusa has an excellent track record of open sourcing their products and giving back to the community; Bambu Labs can't say the same. You'll be in great shape with the MK4 and can feel some pride in supporting open source.
Wanted to thank you for this video. I used your suggestion and bought the P1S and have been enjoying it since day 1. I knew almost nothing about 3d printing and now well I still know almost nothing but I have been able to print models downloaded from printables and the like. I have also started learning Onshape and have designed and printed usable items. The most satisfying having been an overly complicated screw fastener for kitchen aid dishwasher. Again thanks for the info.
Great video. You basically described my entire issue with my Ender 3. I wanted to get into 3D printing to support my hobby of making 3D models and printing them, but it was clear the Ender was gonna have to become a second hobby in and of itself before anything meaningful could be done. The P1P is what I wish I had gotten back in 2020. Maybe I'll grab it...
Were you watching too many cartoons to be able to figure out how to use an Ender 3? What exactly was too difficult with the Ender 3 for you?
@@odinata Its more a matter of annoyance and timesink than difficulty. Constant fighting with bed leveling, issues with firmware when trying to get the auto bed probe to behave after buying it, things like that. Just more friction than the limited amount of time I wanted to dedicate to the task relative to its importance in my overall workflow. I eventually got a resin printer, which, while messier, was a lot easier to set and forget, and get usable results.
Basically any Crapality product is far more trouble than they're worth. From assembly to shoddy build material (my ender 3 would never keep a level bed no matter how much I tried, and the cr6-se tried its hardest to burn our house down...three times!) they just aren't a good choice. A Mingda Magician X is in the same price range as an ender, and you'll get a lot more use from it.
I like this type of feedback. You didn't just say the product isn't good and rant off, you provided a reasonable alternative. I finally got my first house in the past year and want to finally get into 3D printing. 1200$ for a hobby that I may or may not even like is beyond excessive, so as a beginner I have been looking heavily at the 150-300$ price range, instead of a new large debt. Its responses like yours that I use to build my list of possibilities. Thank you.@@sternrulez
@@bigeddthemonk glad to be of assistance. 😉
Just got the p1s, super excited. Started on an ender 3v2 and man it was an absolute pain. Ended up bricking it due to a firmware update and had to return it. Starting to get back into 3d printing and I wanted to make sure I actually got one that worked.
not sure what happened to yours but my Ender 3 Pro has been flogged nearly non stop for over a year. I've replaced the Bowden Tube and a couple of nozzles. Otherwise a pain free experience.
That was an awesome run down and so gratifying to hear someone in the industry telling me about things from a functional application point of view! I am yet to buy my first printer but loved the confidence building. As a retired research scientist, I have done the comparative research and the Bumbu P1P was my pick all-be-it for the most bang for my buck, economic reasons. Thank you for the video and now subscribed!😃
carbon rails degrading is s real problem with the model
I'm sorry you got duped. The video is full of misinformation.
That microwave comparison was perfect. Im an engineering student in my school's society of manufacturing engineers, we are lucky enough to have a bambulab x1 and i cant imagine how long our prototyping would take without it.
Very well balanced video for starters. I've started two years ago with a Prusa Mini+ Kit. For the same reasons you've mentioned: Affordable, reliable, track record, and the kit get's you familiar with the printer for future maintenance.
Which apparently you won’t need to do, according to Prusa users.
Hi, nice video. I have had several printers and now on a Zortrax M200 that I used professionally.
I would definitely get an enclosed model with a filter if your going to run your printer @ home, ABS stinks. I wouldn't get side tracked by 'multi-colour' capability unless you really really think you need it. You rightly highlight first layer success as the #1 beginner problem -nightmare back in the day...
I successfully used "TinkerCad" as the models I needed were not too complex and it has the advantage of being so simple you don't forget how to use it if not designing anything for a while...
Agreed 100% My first year was nothing but learning and struggling with ender 3 and kobra max. Until I really understood how they worked and tuned my slicer to them it was hell. I would do it again learning what i know but its a lot for someone who isn't a masochist
ive been thinking about getting the ender 3 s1, any advice? ive used a generic 3d print before but curious about what in particular was the biggest issue with this series? that being said i cant just afford to get the first 2 reccomended in this video XD maybe one day but for now im thinking the ender 3 s1 would suit my needs (looking to basically make props and bigger figures)
@@RustyTorchI can't speak for the S1 personally, I had the older ender 3 pro with single rail for the y axis. That was a HUGE issue when I went to upgrade it for starters. But I had issue with under extrusion, warped bed, and learning how to install marlin all within the first couple of months of owning it. The Bowden system was garbage in my opinion so I went to direct drive added probe for z offset, upgraded to a silent board and added linear rails, also added a glass bed, upgraded the y axis rail with a part from ender extender and had to mill the provided extrusions down to get any of it to fit. Not to mention find a file for the belt tensioner that I had to modify myself to work properly. Now it prints amazingly! But all of that process I just finished about 2 months ago so... just giving you a cautionary tale from my own experience. I have 4 machines now and if you want to print in multi colors with basically none of the hassle the Bambulabz printer is worth the money I promise you. All my upgrades ran me close to $400 on top of the printer
Just got a A1 mini for the reason stated here. I just want to print, out of the box no complications. On a budget so will start the adventure with smallest cheapest model and work my way up to a Prusa Mk4 of Bambu X1
You got me in the first 2min. The reliability and something just working is something sooo undervalued, not only in 3d printing but I would say in DIY in general. As someone that around 6 years ago started my 3d journey I completely related with what you said. Until I bought my prusa MK3S most of my time I was doing exactly that , buying third party parts to upgrade the printers and constant fixes or calibrations. My prusa in 4 years needed to be fixed once, the thermal sensor, which was a 30 min job. They have great documentation that makes it easy to fix and build the printer. Currently I'm considering to expand and I'm quite divided between bambo and prusa, but due to their track record, quality, open source and constant software upgrades/deploy I'm inclined to go prusa 4, but the tesla looks amazing 😂
I've just gone for the mk4, it an awesome machine with a great pedigree. Bamboo, who ?
I have a P1P! It's like a microwave appliance. You put something in, the filament, run it, and you get something complete out of it. No tinkering, no self bed leveling, no long waits for simple prints. You do have to slice and understand that aspect but thats with successfully printing anything on any printer. I bought it for speeeeeeed and it has not disappointed. Cheaper units double, triple or sometime quadruple the print time speed and come with other headaches. I don't have patience for waiting countless hours lol. Funny story- many years ago i paid almost the same amount (700) for a slow bed slinger when it was the newest tech out there. Now you can pick one up for 200 or less even.
I'm not the sharpest spoon in the toaster so I could absolutely use that one, I want something simple and easy to operate without constant adjustment like my creality ender did
@@doomguy2020 -"sharpest spoon in the toaster" OMG, I'm going to have to remember that one. Priceless........
@@Tron-Jockey I'm happy somebody finally enjoyed that lol
Great video. Prototyping and designing usable parts is almost all of what I use my 3D printer for.
I started about a decade ago with an ANet A8, aka the "Housefire In A Box." I currently run a heavily modded Creality CR-10S and a mildly modified CR6-SE. The Bambu Labs printers are tempting, but the Prusa printers are rock solid and Josef and his team are top notch. When the Crealities get retired, they're getting replaced with Prusas probably. As far as basic 3D modeling, I use TinkerCAD for most of the basic stuff. Fusion 360 is awesome, but steep learning curve. Having 3D printing in my toolbox has been a huge blessing and a great learning experience that I recommend to anybody who's a maker, a fixer, a tech, a mechanic or anyone else who likes hardware or electronic engineering.
I'm not going to lie, that was the best segue into a sponsor ad I have ever seen! Oh, and your studio set up looks amazing! The 3D Printing info was great too!
Factor's sponsored ads are almost always good. If they had better options for avoiding allergens I would have ordered a box already.
It was worth flying your friend out to help with lighting and upgrading the space. These videos look SOOOO good in your new space!
Well this one you're a little too saturated (alot of it is also probably your red lighting in the room), but overall every one shot in the redone office looks great.
Though I still hope to see some shop greatness shot in the garage
Thank you! Definitely need to fine tune things
@@ShopNation wait. Are we friends?
@@wittworks🤣 legend
I started back when I became 16, as a gift I received an ender 3 like clone (idk why it’s unheard of in the us, but you can find plenty where I am) and it still works great, I print some tiny project here and there, bought a sidewinder x2 but ended up reselling it, and tried a bit of resin 3d printing but i had to stop. The right printer really depends on yourself and your budget, you can spend 160€ and calibrate everything, having to do a bit of tinkering, but nowadays with 230/300€ you can get a very plug and play machine (neptune 3/4)
Brilliant video! I really liked how you approached the subject and I loved how your "experiential wit" made this really fun to watch. I think you really hit on a key point for many which is: "How do I make things that are actually useful with this?" and not just waste filament printing plastic trinkets with little purpose beyond adorning a knick-knack shelf. Thank You for sharing this valuable knowledge you gained through real world experience!
So true, I got into printing about 6 months ago, started with the ender 3 neo. I had no clue how much time was spent tinkering on the machine rather then the machine printing. If I were to start over I would spend the money up front and go with a k1 which is what I am going to move to eventually.
I've tried both the K1 and the P1P... personally on balance and if it were my money. I'd go with the P1P. It lacks a bunch of features that the K1 has, but it's just better built in every way. It is a very tight race though!
Definitely get the p1p you can add later the ams and the bambulabs support is way better.
Thank you from a newbie to 3D printing. Your video made sense to me and is allowing me to go forward on my journey to 3D Printing.
The ender 3 pro has been doing wonders for me. I was told to look at it as a hobby so I wouldn't get frustrated with the failures. That thought process has been amazing. I have fixed, changed, and currently fixing things. I understand the functions so much better. But now I want to run an etsy shop, so I need reliability. This video has been super helpful
I'm in the same boat as you but with an ender 3 v2. I've decided to switch to resin printer to get more consistent results
Yes if you started over with you printing farm business. I would recommend the cheapest possible printer with self bed leveling. That way people know if 3d printing is a hobby for them. Proper first layer seems to be the biggest issue people face when coming into this hobby. People dont have the patience or the common sense to figure out how to level a bed manually. I have gotten pretty OK at eyeballing the level, but just got a BL touch clone to even skip that part.
Great video and yes the backdrop is working. 👍
I must say when I think hobbyist, I think $500 range not a $1000+. Then what you explained at 2:32, is exactly what I’ve experienced with the Ender 3 I started with. Life got busy so didn’t use for awhile but when I started back up, it hasn’t enjoyable.
I have a lot of shop organization projects that I want to create so miss the printer.
Yes! The premium for a working printer pays off over time
Dude. I bought an Ender 3 for my first (and only, so far) printer. What you said about the Prusa being good for someone who wants to get into 3d printing, not working on 3d printers, is too true. I've worked on this thing countless times now.
As someone who first came in wanting to 'just print and not worry', I was recommended the Creality CR-6 as it 'has the comfort upgrades Ender 3 really needed'.
I can tell you now that 2020 advice did not age well. CR-6 is one of the hardest mainstream printers to find off-the-shelf commercial parts for (yes there's a community but depending on Discord dudes for printer upgrades is the exact OPPOSITE of what most of us signing up for a CR-6 wanted).
In fact, it's such a pain the arse bc now I'm fully happy to tinker with my own printer and I can't even easily do that like I could with an Ender 3 with 10x more resources and support.
Moral of the story, don't buy in on proprietary designs too hastily. Creality was a big entity in the space even 2-3 years ago, but I misjudged how they would design a new set of EVERYTHING for their fancy new affordable printer--and proceed to immediately back-track to the Ender 3-based mounting holes and designs immediately after that.
Literally got rug-pulled by a company that is still thriving.
My ender 3 and 5 spend half the time needing fixing. They are for a hobby not a tool...
@@icehawk3442 What about the ender 3 pro?
I've never had any issues with my Ender. It's a beast for fraction of the cost these recommended printers are. Of course it's not the ultimate end tier printer, but for a starter? Better than the recommended ones IMO
(Ender 3 V2 here)
%0 prints into my Ender 3 S1 Pro and zero issues so far, Lmao.
See, I knew Blender before getting a printer.
Enders are fine. You asshats simply can't slice for shit.
XD
Stumbled on this video while trying to decide what printer to buy. The set design, the content, and the delivery are all on point. Thank you!
Yes...I liked and subscribed.
Just stumbled across this video and thank goodness I did. I have an option of a P1S for £540 which is rough 3x my original budget but by the sounds of it, it'll suit my needs to learn and not be broken all the time. Thank you for your time
Nailed it. I just upgraded my ender 3 to the bambu and I can honestly say I've printed more with the bambu in 4 weeks than I did for years on the ender. It works. It works well. The prints are amazing, it's easy to change filiment, it's easy to print all the types of filaments and the software is great too (bye octoprint). It's pricy but when you count all the upgrades needed to make an ender 3 even close plus the time I spent on debugging and fixing the stupid machine over the years it's a small price to pay.
May go with the Bambu as both of my Toyotas were crap ;). One factor for me is the price, and lead times. I love my MK3, as it is reliable, but kind of wanting to support a company that has put forth some effort to make things better for the 3D printing community forcing other companies to do better.
Thanks for the advice. I have design and CAD experience so that end of it is a natural fit however I have been using a sculpto for several years now and I am about ready to upgrade. I tried an Ender 3 V2 but in tune with you said . . . I would rather actually print things than to have to constantly work on the printer and upgrade all the breaking parts just to keep it working.
Great video. You hit the main point, the Bambu is a tool that just works and is so easy to use. There are so few steps to printing something compared to other printers.
I've spent a lot of time and money getting my ender 3 pro as polished and reliable as possible with upgraded bed, direct drive, hardened all metal hotend, runout sensor, bed levelling, 32bit board and compiling my own custom firmware, slowly perfecting various slicer profiles for different materials- it's been quite a process and on the plus side I've actually learnt quite a lot from it. It now works well for a ender 3 but it's been a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get it to this point and it still can be a faff to use it.
The Bambu just worked straight out of the box, no upgrades needed, no tweaking, no tinkering, no experimenting, no learning it's foibles. It just works.
I never want to do any of that ever ever. I just want to print 3d modles and parts reliably. So Bambu or prusa it is I guess.
Dude, straight 🔥 Excellent video on the subject and I'll be sending people to this video now as well when they ask about 3D printing, lol.
Love your channel
You 3D print?
@@wittworks I did a quick search on his main page for "3D Print" (must be in "quotation marks"), and he has three videos that include 3D printing.
I won't be. I will never suggest an expensive printer to someone new to the 3d printing world. Most people give up after a while and swallowing the cost of a budget printer is more palatable than a high-end one.
Please don't - They will watch that and listen to.... "stuff" said, think that what's he's saying is true and buy that overpriced crap or prusa while there are so many more better and/or more affordable starting options.
Travis rarely disappoints with intelligent and concise information while not boring the audience
i haeve gone then rogue!! aftrer the 3dprints!!!
Good presentation and good info. Thanks. I had a Flash Forge a few years back. It worked pretty well for me as a beginner. The wires wires got fouled up and I had other priories, so I put it down. I am looking to get a new printer and your video was just what I needed. Thanks.
Good presentation, but bad info. The guy in the video clearly has no clue what he is talking about. He made all the wrong comparisons and gave bad advice. I'd suggest searching for creators like: CNC Kitchen or Teaching Tech, to get better quality of info.
i watched this video just to see what people recommend and decided to shell out a bit more cash on the x1 carbon about 4 months ago, I have been extremely happy with it, the only time it has failed was
1: the outlet almost caught fire(we had a crappy space heater plug into which caused the outlet to short)
2: filament ran out mid print and the functional part didn't hold up on the line between filaments
3: filament got tangled
4: filament snapped in the tube
5: tried to print something really thin and tall
none of these failures were the printers fault and were either out of my control or user error
Agree 100%, got tired of manual levelling and troubleshooting addons/quirks. The p1p just works, click print and its done like a regular paper printer.
For what its worth dont be so hard on the 3d printing community, plenty of those "dumb" trinkets and stuff are printed to help people calibrate and torture test their machines when learning what all the different settings do because cura slicer has hundreds if not thousands of settings
Nah, feel like most people just print for the sake of printing. I dont think that is bad in itself, but i dont think they print all the randome stuff for «calibration»
@@bisk1407ur right, i would print completely random stuff cause would be cool
@@bisk1407 not my kid printing toys and meme sculptures to boast around his school mates....
He definitely didn't make a sculpture with "69420" "moe lester" "yuri tarded".....
Kids these days having the best machines humanity ever created and using it for hehe funny stuff.....
@@rohankishibe8259like you wouldn't do the exact same thing if you had access to this stuff when you were a kid.
I actually was on the fence on what to buy, I'm about to sound so effing robotic, but it did help me to decide where to start. I'm going to go with the Prusa kit to get a good learning handle on how to repair/fix and a good starting know-how so thanks for the vid! Super helped!
Don't, this video is misleading and makes all the wrong comparisons. Channel creator replied to my comment without addressing a single question.
I'm just going to copy/paste what I wrote:
- Why did you compare an MK4 to an X1C ? They are different classes. Sure they cost the same, but they are a completely different class of printer. (enclosure / accelerometer / filter / camera / microLIDAR / ... ) Fair would be comparing it to the P1P and still it would be outclassed.
- Why would you advise buying an MK3S+ Kit at this point in time when you can get a MK4 for an extra €100? Reliability is a bs argument as they've ran over 10.000 hours and they come from the same company. So reliability/customer service should all be comparable.
- Fixing or replacing parts does not seem to be as user friendly with the Bambulabs? I don't agree. What is not user friendly about swapping out pieces? In most cases it's unscrewing 2 screws or just decouple some things. Have you tried replacing a broken item on the MK3s+ extruder? Also please explain which items aren't fixable on the Bambulabs printers?
I don't believe this comparison was done in a fair way. And this is coming from a person who also owns Prusa printers (MK3S+, Mini+, XL being shipped). I do agree with buying a (newer version) P1P when starting out with printing.
Clear information, no BS and most importantly... unaffiliated. Just ordered the P1P based on your video. Thanks!
Great video.
Love my original Prusa MK3 and MMU. Having to build it gives you invaluable experience. It even sat unused for a couple of years, got moved around etc. But printed okay the first time I printed again. A true work horse. But it needs some new parts, and I'd rather spend the money on the Bambu Lab X1C.
Then made the mistake of getting an Ender 3 Plus; great if you like spending more time tweaking it to get it work right than actually printing.
Just ordered my Bambu Lab X1-Carbon Combo 3D Printer - Starter Bundle, and can't wait for it to get here.
From my perspective, the development at Tesla served as a great example. As I closely followed the market, it appeared that there would be minimal changes. However, Bambu Lab emerged and introduced something entirely distinct from Creality and other competitors in the market. It is important to note that being different does not automatically imply superiority or increased accuracy. It simply implies that other companies, such as Creality or Prusa, are following a similar path. Therefore, there must have been some underlying factors that were previously not fully comprehended. Admittedly, not everyone appreciates the fact that Bambu Lab's printer is not open source. Nevertheless, I believe Bambu Lab's intention is not solely to cater to geeks and professionals but to eventually reach a broader audience. They have successfully taken the initial step towards achieving that with the P1P.
bambulab's work doesn't present anything new that the industry wasn't already doing. They did however, uniquely cost engineer everything, so it's actually affordable to the modern consumer. Much of the components are similar to much higher performance machines, such as the lidar being present in the mark X (which is now a 6 year old product). the idea of a daughter board being as old as stratasys' original patents. the corexy not being unique. Still an awesome company of course.
Curious, what does not being open source have to do with reaching a broader market? It sounds counter intuitive. I imagine more people can work with something that is open source.
The most important thing with the bambu is, the encolsure. Both printers print extremely well, but the enclosure makes prints so much stronger, especially the layer lines, also it reduces warping by so much.
Just for your information prusa now sells the mk4 with enclosure in bundle also with add-ons you may choose. Also has filtration, fire suppression system etc....
I started with a Flashforge Adventurer 3 5 or so years ago, and despite the fact that it has its own slicer software... the first years were frustrating as hell.
But with the latest updates they really got their software and firmware to a really good level. Just pick a preset and start printing.
So I would personally recommend a Flashforge Adventurer 4 or better yet the 4 Pro Model for 750€
Similar to the bamboo it has an enclosed Printspace wich makes it a great abs printer.
Thank you so much for this video! Like you, I do a lot of printing of actual parts and pieces for big projects. The endless stream of a new Creality/China machine every 6 weeks is tiresome. Both printers you displayed have a solid support system behind them. They are ready to print, not endless tinkering and upgrading to make them reliable. We had a few Prusas at work and they wore out after a year or so of pretty heft use. However, they were well supported with firmware, software and spare parts. I get sent cheap 3D printers to review all the time and its honestly a race to the bottom in price...and quality. When people ask me what printer they should get, I point to the ones you have, among others. I ask, "What's your time worth?" Do you want to tinker and upgrade to make it work....or do you simply need a reliable machine to get excellent quality prints. You gained a subscriber!
I've heard a lot of good things about both Prusa (of course) and, more recently, Bamboo Labs 3D printers. I've been intrigued enough that I may, someday, buy one. For the time being, though, I have 2 (well, I have one and my significant other has one, but I often use both MUCH more often than she does. lol) CR-10 Smart 3D printers...and I LOVE them! Ignoring the fact that they're really actually dumb (I've never been able to connect to either of them wirelessly), they both just work. And they have one of the largest print areas of any 3D printer, at least of those that are commercially available to consumers. It's a whopping 300mm x 300mm x 400mm! That's X, Y, and Z, respectively. They have auto bed levelling, filament run-out, the ability to change the print bed, although I never have. You can change it to a flexible surface or a removable stiff surface. Even, from what I've heard, a rubber surface that works well with TPU. All-in-all, I'm VERY happy with the printers I currently use and at around $550, each, they aren't a bad starting point, either.
Buy a Raspberry Pi 3 or 4 (recommend the 4), use their imager tool to put Octoprint on an SD card, and plug your printer in to the raspberry pi. Now you have wireless connectivity, and can even plug in a USB webcam to the RPi to monitor your 3D prints!
@@Enterthewormhole I actually use a Wyze Cam v3 connected to the USB port on the printer casing. Since the Wyze Cam only needs the power from the USB port to function, I can pull up my Wyze app and monitor the status of the print from anywhere. I just haven't been able to control that print in case of catastrophic failures. In other words, when the print starts to spaghettify (real word that applies both to Black Holes AND 3D printing! lol), I'm not able to stop it until I get physically to the printer to cancel the print.🤷
I've had an Ender and a Kobra at home, and I've used them both until they hit some major error that damaged them to a point that fixing would cost more than a replacement (admitedly not hard with
I'm quite happy with my Prusa MK3S+ that I built from the kit. I would like it to have two things: a multi-material system, mostly so that I can print supports that are easier to remove or dissolve; and, more speed. Trying now to decide whether to buy the Prusa multi-material system (MMS3) and the upgrade kit to bring the printer up to MK4 specs, or just go to the Bambu P1S or X1C. The Bambu's AMS is compact and seems to be pretty well integrated, if rather wasteful of material during changes. Prusa's MMC3 seems to take up more space, but I just like Prusa as a company and I appreciate that their printers are open source. Decisions, decisions.