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I use PLA and resin printers to do something similar, but never thought to keep the PLA on the glass bed and pour the resin directly onto it. This will save me SO MUCH time; thanks!
I had a very similar project in mind using a translucent plastic as a diffuser but now that I've seen this, resin is probably a better way to go, are they using a standard resin? epoxy?
this is actually a fantastic use of rapid prototyping. Also the use of semi-transparent filament to provide hilights around the colored center bits is brilliant.
This is not rapid prototyping. That's the final product the client receives. But this process is genius and the end result is amazing. Bet the revenue got decent really fast.
Absolutely brilliant idea to leave the print on the glass and infill with resin. You can basically use the print surface as a face, then infill with anything you want... it's essentially an open faced mould.
This is a masterclass in integrating printing in a commercial process, thank you! Super smart solutions to some tricky problems. I even took notes! Some stuff is obvious but some isn't, so thought I'd paste here what I found interesting, novel or noteworthy enough to put in my notes folder... 🙂 - Plain glass bed, free-resting on top of a glass "hot box" with forced air circulation. 🪟♨ - adhesion layer using PVA and squeegee - Filament run-out sensors use gravity lever that falls onto an IR gate. Mounting blocks freely rotate. - No ABL, probably no need with all linear bearings and heavy gantry, probably manually trammed very rarely. 🔧 - LOTS of z-squish on first layer, probably because good adhesion is much more important than z accuracy and elephant's foot not a problem due to single perimeters and the top edge is gooped over. - Dual (machined alu) extruders, short bowdens, single hot-end: PLA white and (pla?) translucent (ie not clear). ⚙ Assuming PLA because almost no stringing and no enclosures. - Single, fat perimeters. Probably a pretty large nozzle dia (0.8 or bigger?), and maybe ~ 1.2mm line width? - Lays down outer perim of lettering, several layers vertical then tapered walls - middle third of wall height is printed in translucent pla, so you get an outline/dropshadow effect - Clean stringing with torch and tweezers, looks like they clean the inside channels of the bed, but maybe just for dust/filament. Unsure if they're washing the PVA out (suspect not, see later). - After printing, inner channels are filled to a few mm with translucent resin and UV cured. Resin is in translucent "sauce bottles" but stored in light-tight bin. They have multiple colours but seem to be using only translucent white for initial fill on this sign.🖌 - Use water to separate from bed, and wash pva from resin fill. - Colour layer is done with (probably) UV cure resin, applied in a clean room. Run a bead on the transl resin, then use tool to break surface tension so it flows to edge of PLA outline.🖌 - They hit it with quick flame, maybe that sets the surface so it doesn't flow while working the rest of it? Or maybe encourages it to flow and even out the meniscus. 🔥 - Then run LED strip on a laser-cut MDF backing frame, which fits *inside* the PLA frame, which has a shelf edge in it. Strip is spot-secured by CA glue (I think), as is the board-to-pla interface. The sign is about maybe 30mm deep, looks like 60LEDS/m strip. - LED colours are loosely matched to resin colour for primaries, but use white leds on the purple perimeter. - Inludes a strip on the back for ambient drop-shadow(light) on the bottle part of the design. (back board is recessed about 5mm into the pla frame, and also has ~ 25mm bolts as wall stand-offs). - They use SILICON NOZZLES that slip on their CA glue bottles! - When lit it looks like the darker colours have a black border, but it's just the contrast from having the resin flow onto the PLA border. Yeah, so I totally geeked-out on this.
Awesome work, using UV resin for the center bits was a really great idea; Some of those steps you really need to work fast but be precise. Thanks for sharing your process.
No, it is not. It is the most dumb idea ever. There are much better materials for this that are by multiple orders of magnitude less toxic and easier to work with.
Great video and amazing products. question, does the resin does not stick to the glass? or you use a release agent before printing and adding the resin? thank you
the whole setup and process is....i have at least 3 things i will use for myself and i didnt even finish the video yet. these guys in the shop are brilliant!!!
Hi .Process looks impressive to watch . Several quations arise though . Is this filament suitable for outdoor applications ?. Will it not deform exposed under light ?. How about flame retardant properties that electrical devices must have ?. Too many questions to be answered ...
Hello, thank you for your video, what type of resin do you use to make the diffuser? Is it a mixture of transparent and a little white pigment, or is it a ready-made semi-opaque resin?
Hrllo great video. Why do you do fill with clear and then paint clourw on the outside? Would it be better to fill with colours and then fill with clear again?
Если использовать адресную ленту а не обычную то вообще красота будет! Динамическая подсветка привлекает больше внимания а значит и потенциальных покупателей.
расскажи ка им про 2812 , а чтоб понадежней - про 2815 , и итого лента плюс контроллер будет дороже всего остального ! думаю , для них проблем нет в этом - сделают , что угодно - вопрос цены и как заказчик сказал - так и сделают !
A fantastic process that produces an excellent product. Not to put down this product in any way as it does a fine job and requires no less rime or talent, but I can't help but miss real neon. I am old and a cyberpunk fan, forgive me.
Great job, nice to watch such a videos and respect industrious and humble koreans from Russia! We both believe in free world and will support Ukraine! Kore once will be unified.
@BlondieSL haha yea, I print a lot with both types so immediately recognized. Just didn't see any curing on the color parts. Seemed like a really cool/easy method and wanted to give it a shot myself.
That is so cool, i am going to try to make a small sign version testing some different colored resins mixed with color, one more reason to get a 3d printer and experiment. Larry
Visibly PLA aingle wall with about a 0.7mm nozzzle. Then probably some anti-stick liquid before adding some resin, UV cured, then washed and dried. The paint however I don't know (I'd use acrylic in general but haven't done back illumination). After that it's lazer cut board with LED strip CA glued (with activator) and finally glued to the PLA either with CA or similar. Anyone knows what the paint could be? I'd be interested for my home projects
@@Suppentrullo I don't see wood glue with colouring sold. Do you mean woodglue mixed with colourants? I recall wood infill can be used on PLA but haven't tried. I'm surprised as PLA isn't nearly as porous as (untreated) wood.
@@dustinhollisThat does make sense but didn't notice the UV curing. 7:40 is a normal light and right after it's a normal backlight. I guess curing would happen between both. However it'd make sense to keep resin in a cold dark cabinet.
What’s incredible, is how fast public 3D printers are now, compared to this industrial one. It would be faster to print those parts appart with a middle price printer 😅
This is true. You won't see one of these machines with a giant nozzle (looks like these are 1mm or greater in orifice diameter) running 600mm/s though!! The material can't handle being extruded that rapidly and it wouldn't have sufficient time to cool down before the next layer's run overtop it which is a recipe for warping and deformation. That's of zero concern though because what these industrial machines REALLY excel at is pumping out insane volumes of filament, generating massive layers and getting massive prints done substantially faster than their desktop counterparts. You might be able to run a 60x60x60mm cube in a couple hours - this thing would have that same cube done in 30 minutes. *if that.*
what is that in those colored bottles i want to know i too wanna build similar project and what resin did you use for light diffusion base layer transparent uv resin?
Все же ручного труда очень много и тех процессов очень много... Ждем когда печатаем 1 слой подложка 2й слой световой люминофор, третий рассеиватель!)))
Cool! what is the filament and nozzle diameters? they look big! And what is the liquid you pour in to the 3D prints? Can we make hobby signs like this at home?
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I need this software because i want to learn this software anyone providing me
I use PLA and resin printers to do something similar, but never thought to keep the PLA on the glass bed and pour the resin directly onto it. This will save me SO MUCH time; thanks!
감사합니다 Thank you. It will be a great help in making videos ^^
also where you mount the LEDs matters, i would not recommend gluing them directly onto resin or pla XD
Hy bro do you make like this with normal printer ?
I had a very similar project in mind using a translucent plastic as a diffuser but now that I've seen this, resin is probably a better way to go, are they using a standard resin? epoxy?
I'm gonna try it right now with SLA transparent resin with some pigments. PLA parts are already printing 😅
this is actually a fantastic use of rapid prototyping.
Also the use of semi-transparent filament to provide hilights around the colored center bits is brilliant.
I missed that at first, very cool
It used to be called rapid prototyping, now it's called production.
This is not rapid prototyping. That's the final product the client receives.
But this process is genius and the end result is amazing. Bet the revenue got decent really fast.
Do you know what liquid they lay on the print for color?
@@AnthonyMaragou probably silicone if I had to guess.
Absolutely brilliant idea to leave the print on the glass and infill with resin. You can basically use the print surface as a face, then infill with anything you want... it's essentially an open faced mould.
에이 3D 프린터로 간판 만들어 봤자지~ 했다가... 영상 다보고 나니 우와아... 소리 나오네요.ㄷㄷㄷ
The lighting behind the green bottle is so smart. Also the fact they're using surface tension for the coloring layer. Such perfect rounded edges
This is a masterclass in integrating printing in a commercial process, thank you! Super smart solutions to some tricky problems. I even took notes! Some stuff is obvious but some isn't, so thought I'd paste here what I found interesting, novel or noteworthy enough to put in my notes folder... 🙂
- Plain glass bed, free-resting on top of a glass "hot box" with forced air
circulation. 🪟♨
- adhesion layer using PVA and squeegee
- Filament run-out sensors use gravity lever that falls onto
an IR gate. Mounting blocks freely rotate.
- No ABL, probably no need with all linear bearings and heavy gantry,
probably manually trammed very rarely. 🔧
- LOTS of z-squish on first layer, probably because good adhesion is
much more important than z accuracy and elephant's foot not a problem
due to single perimeters and the top edge is gooped over.
- Dual (machined alu) extruders, short bowdens, single hot-end: PLA
white and (pla?) translucent (ie not clear). ⚙
Assuming PLA because almost no stringing and no enclosures.
- Single, fat perimeters. Probably a pretty large nozzle dia (0.8 or
bigger?), and maybe ~ 1.2mm line width?
- Lays down outer perim of lettering, several layers vertical then
tapered walls
- middle third of wall height is printed in translucent pla, so you
get an outline/dropshadow effect
- Clean stringing with torch and tweezers, looks like they clean the
inside channels of the bed, but maybe just for dust/filament. Unsure
if they're washing the PVA out (suspect not, see later).
- After printing, inner channels are filled to a few mm with
translucent resin and UV cured. Resin is in translucent "sauce bottles"
but stored in light-tight bin. They have multiple colours but seem to be
using only translucent white for initial fill on this sign.🖌
- Use water to separate from bed, and wash pva from resin fill.
- Colour layer is done with (probably) UV cure resin, applied in a clean
room. Run a bead on the transl resin, then use tool to break surface
tension so it flows to edge of PLA outline.🖌
- They hit it with quick flame, maybe that sets the surface so it
doesn't flow while working the rest of it? Or maybe encourages it to flow
and even out the meniscus. 🔥
- Then run LED strip on a laser-cut MDF backing frame, which fits
*inside* the PLA frame, which has a shelf edge in it. Strip is
spot-secured by CA glue (I think), as is the board-to-pla interface.
The sign is about maybe 30mm deep, looks like 60LEDS/m strip.
- LED colours are loosely matched to resin colour for primaries, but
use white leds on the purple perimeter.
- Inludes a strip on the back for ambient drop-shadow(light) on
the bottle part of the design. (back board is recessed about 5mm
into the pla frame, and also has ~ 25mm bolts as wall stand-offs).
- They use SILICON NOZZLES that slip on their CA glue bottles!
- When lit it looks like the darker colours have a black border, but
it's just the contrast from having the resin flow onto the PLA border.
Yeah, so I totally geeked-out on this.
This is legit the most informative video I’ve evr seen
wha!?
You haven't seen many videos then, friend.
@@FurlessApe22 you dont seem to realize how insanely good these guys are in using the processes in most efficient ways. this is extremely impressive!
it is definitely up there!...goood to see that others also see what i can see there. this is better than university.
Well done . Informative 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing, be safe, 🇨🇦
this video is insanely interesting! to say that it is inspiring is not doing it justice! thanks! this is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, so much of of hard work and such great dedication... Amazing 👍
Simply amazing work, you can find out what you are treating the surface of the product with before you fill it with resin❤
으와아아ㅏㅏ 으아닛 저도 LED명패 3D프린터로 많이 만들어서 선물용으로 나눠줬었는데 이걸 이렇게 전문적이고 효율적인 방식으로 생산하시는 분이 계신줄은 몰랐습니다.
와 정말 장인이시네요 굉장합니다 ㄷㄷㄷ
That's really cool, guys!
Thank you for showing us your process!
I would like to do that in my country for small businesses.
Awesome work, using UV resin for the center bits was a really great idea; Some of those steps you really need to work fast but be precise. Thanks for sharing your process.
No, it is not.
It is the most dumb idea ever.
There are much better materials for this that are by multiple orders of magnitude less toxic and easier to work with.
@@goury then create a competing company
@@nickdragonslayer go create a business advisory company first
@@goury like what?
@@____Daniel____ ask easycomposites
I love this entire process! Thank you for sharing!
Great technique for producing LED signboards! Using different materials and methods really makes the process efficient 🌟
You are professional in sign making.
Nice result! Great diffusion and vibrant colors.
Really cool ! thanks to you and them for providing some insight to how these are made.
love the background opaque white behind the popping colours :p
The careful workmanship inspires.
Ive never seen those bend friendly LED strips. ill have to keep those in mind.
the attention to detail is amazing
Great video and amazing products. question, does the resin does not stick to the glass? or you use a release agent before printing and adding the resin?
thank you
Those filament switches are genious...so simple yet effective!
the whole setup and process is....i have at least 3 things i will use for myself and i didnt even finish the video yet. these guys in the shop are brilliant!!!
@@simonschneider5913 im trying to figure out which printers they are using..
Hi .Process looks impressive to watch . Several quations arise though . Is this filament suitable for outdoor applications ?. Will it not deform exposed under light ?. How about flame retardant properties that electrical devices must have ?. Too many questions to be answered ...
Hello, thank you for your video, what type of resin do you use to make the diffuser? Is it a mixture of transparent and a little white pigment, or is it a ready-made semi-opaque resin?
Just one word, WOW! 😊
Hrllo great video. Why do you do fill with clear and then paint clourw on the outside? Would it be better to fill with colours and then fill with clear again?
Bro this is sick video !
I wounder what they use for it which fillament PLA,PETG ? and what resin ?
Nice video! Is this a prototype? Is the production batch injection molded? Thx!
Thank you for showing your secrets, now I can steal your technique.
Why does it seem that at 9:32 the first white resin pour (at 4:03) was removed? How is that possible? Was there a release agent applied?
its possible that its not the same exact sign
Colour could have been added to the front and back to be more vibrant.
Woah that's work bro amazing you're done
What material did you use? Can it withstand outdoor temperatures?
Если использовать адресную ленту а не обычную то вообще красота будет! Динамическая подсветка привлекает больше внимания а значит и потенциальных покупателей.
расскажи ка им про 2812 , а чтоб понадежней - про 2815 , и итого лента плюс контроллер будет дороже всего остального ! думаю , для них проблем нет в этом - сделают , что угодно - вопрос цены и как заказчик сказал - так и сделают !
@@Работайте.братья так я по сути и рассказал.
A fantastic process that produces an excellent product. Not to put down this product in any way as it does a fine job and requires no less rime or talent, but I can't help but miss real neon. I am old and a cyberpunk fan, forgive me.
Очень круто 👍
Мне понравилось.
So how much one of those signs costs? must be expensive considering the time it took to print and the handicraft?
Is there a steep learning curve to making these on your own?
Great job, nice to watch such a videos and respect industrious and humble koreans from Russia!
We both believe in free world and will support Ukraine!
Kore once will be unified.
Кого ты там поддерживаешь?🤣🤣🤣
What liquid was used for the center bits? Including the colored bits as well
In another comment here, somebody says it's UV cure epoxy resin.
Nice but they are very Fragile and wont last long outdoors.
They’re probably hung inside of shop windows 👌
I'd like to see how the backing light board was cut. Great job!
very nice video
😍It's very cool, which white thread do you use and why doesn't it let light through?
Do most people print on glass? How is the resin released from the glass?
I have a question, how can I use this sign in the future? if, for example, the tape burns out?
For the color layer ontop of the diffused UV resin layer, is that also UV resin?
@BlondieSL haha yea, I print a lot with both types so immediately recognized. Just didn't see any curing on the color parts. Seemed like a really cool/easy method and wanted to give it a shot myself.
Oi sou do Brazil, qual o software que vc usa para desenhar as letras e o vidro é aquecido ou apenas aplica a a resina?
Super Job 👍👌🇩🇪👌👍🤔👏👏👏
i am SO going to steal this idea! lol
I want to know how the materials they use can prevent UV aging and deformation caused by temperature changes outdoors.
Probably ABS or ASA
dont forget to level the bed
That is so cool, i am going to try to make a small sign version testing some different colored resins mixed with color, one more reason to get a 3d printer and experiment. Larry
is that what they used for the colored parts on the sign? colored resin?
Okay this is actually so awesome
Ok this is an awesome video but let's be honest, the music is a bit much 🤣
What’s the liquid colors?
Visibly PLA aingle wall with about a 0.7mm nozzzle. Then probably some anti-stick liquid before adding some resin, UV cured, then washed and dried. The paint however I don't know (I'd use acrylic in general but haven't done back illumination). After that it's lazer cut board with LED strip CA glued (with activator) and finally glued to the PLA either with CA or similar.
Anyone knows what the paint could be? I'd be interested for my home projects
waterbased woodglue
@@Suppentrullo I don't see wood glue with colouring sold. Do you mean woodglue mixed with colourants? I recall wood infill can be used on PLA but haven't tried. I'm surprised as PLA isn't nearly as porous as (untreated) wood.
@@WernerBeroux Its colored resin. You see them sticking it into a UV curing chamber after.
@@dustinhollisThat does make sense but didn't notice the UV curing. 7:40 is a normal light and right after it's a normal backlight. I guess curing would happen between both. However it'd make sense to keep resin in a cold dark cabinet.
@@WernerBeroux Been trying to comment here for the last 10 minutes, but youtube keeps deleting my reply, expecting this one to be gone too....
What’s incredible, is how fast public 3D printers are now, compared to this industrial one. It would be faster to print those parts appart with a middle price printer 😅
The layer height was quite huge so even if it moved slower it probably is just as fast or faster than a consumer printer in normal operation
This is true.
You won't see one of these machines with a giant nozzle (looks like these are 1mm or greater in orifice diameter) running 600mm/s though!! The material can't handle being extruded that rapidly and it wouldn't have sufficient time to cool down before the next layer's run overtop it which is a recipe for warping and deformation.
That's of zero concern though because what these industrial machines REALLY excel at is pumping out insane volumes of filament, generating massive layers and getting massive prints done substantially faster than their desktop counterparts.
You might be able to run a 60x60x60mm cube in a couple hours - this thing would have that same cube done in 30 minutes. *if that.*
And what 'middle' printer would print at this scale? Even large consumer printers don't print this big.
@@DigBipper188 thanks for the details :)
@@benjaminvdvyt that’s why I said « parts appart »
That's a wonderful idea!
Very nice !!!
This looks feaking amazing
VERY cool awesome that it's consumer 3d printer parts like the volcano nozzle.
that printer is an amazing inspiration for me. so many small ingenious details!
what software are you using and what is that you're putting down on the glass?
Muito bom!!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Its great you have gold hand
watching from india . what is the cost of this machine ?
what is that in those colored bottles i want to know i too wanna build similar project
and what resin did you use for light diffusion base layer transparent uv resin?
it cures with resin so its probably some kind of color resins. not sure how long these lasts in direct sunlight though.
Great job, what 3d software to make like this ?
amazing work!
헐 생각보다 간단하네 만들어봐야지
Fajne Panie Wong, niestety zbyt długi proces na produkcję takiego neonu. Są szybsze, a równie skuteczne metody.
good job
Now this is a heroic video.
I would do something about those lines. To make them smooth on the outside.
와 프린터 엄청 크네요 ㅋㅋㅋ
why not put the colour first from the back?
I was wondering the same
what material used? PLA, ABS? and acrylyc liquid?
What material is used in printing? Abs, petg??
What kind of colour is that on top? Looks great!
Is it silicone?
How could i get more information about the printers used ?
So these are basically neon lights without the need for neon, Amazing!
Все же ручного труда очень много и тех процессов очень много... Ждем когда печатаем 1 слой подложка 2й слой световой люминофор, третий рассеиватель!)))
If money is no object, that's possible now. Labor is cheaper though, so this process probably will not go away.
what software did you use to make this design tall me
what filament do you use?...😅 Can I use PLA+ filaments from eSun for my shop's outdoor signage?
I'd use petg, uv stable, heat stable. anything else in either inapproriate or overkill
What 3d printers are these??? O.o
thats amazing . however i noticed that you need an arabic translator . because the words in arabic are not correct
I would love one of those signs
Print one
What software was he using to design the 3d sign
Dude that’s so cool!
very good.
how do you level a large glass bed like that?
As you watch 1) Curiosity 2) Learning 3) Appreciation 4) Shut up and take my money
What are the colored liquids you are putting in there to show different colors??
It appears to be UV resin.
Cool! what is the filament and nozzle diameters? they look big!
And what is the liquid you pour in to the 3D prints? Can we make hobby signs like this at home?
In another comment here, somebody says it's UV cure epoxy resin.
very nice
neat technique
what is this "thing" you put on the glass .. I guess to get a better adherence?