A response to an angry viewer: I’m not sure I follow your rant - it might make sense if SWC was the ONLY Revan source material, but it’s not - I have a Star Wars: Revan playlist into which I’ve dumped about 75 episodes that deal directly with Revan, and another 30 or so where he’s ancillary. My point - Revan’s a complex character, and no single episode is going to capture all that nuance. If you’re looking for a Revan outline or biography, go to the fandom websites - they’re excellent. But if you’re looking for episodes that deal with Revan’s personality, his take on the Force, and content creator’s reactions from dozens of different perspectives, then go collect all these episodes and dig in. More importantly, be prepared to read hundreds of viewer’s comments, because it’s THOSE that define Revan. How we, the fans, choose to interpret the character is what makes a character great; in the character analysis for Revan, it’s our comments that have made Revan a favorite. Now, to SWC’s episode, if you view it as one of dozens of perspectives, you’ll appreciate his presentation of Darth Revan - which is difficult, as there’s simply not much material ‘out there’s that deals specifically about this. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t anything to write - indeed, just the opposite. By using artistic license and tackling the subject from different, sometimes nebulous, angles, we are given rational perspectives on what a Darth Revan might think and how he might behave. And by noting how he actually thinks and behaves, differently than what we expect, we can begin to appreciate his character’s complexity. Viewing SWC’s episode in this way, maybe you can appreciate the effort he’s made. Look, as I’ve indicated, there is a LOT of Revan material out there - some of it’s good, some not so good, some average, and some, like SWC’s episode, is excellent. The general episodes can be helpful, but in the end don’t foster a lot of thought and conversation - one in particular, literally, word for word, created an episode by reading directly from the fandom website…interesting, if you’ve not read the fandom sketch, but not really helpful in teasing out a Revan character analysis. But SWC took a different approach, choosing a specific aspect (Darth Revan) of Revan’s biography, and expanding on it. This is not simple; it’s not a serial, step-by-step description. It’s an all-encompassing analysis that sometimes requires a lot of background to draw a fairly simple conclusion. For example, we all know Revan wants to be gray, and that he goes on this journey that everyone on the Light Side says is impossible, and all on the Dark Side despise. But in order to understand what makes Revan unique, to tease out what’s within his Holocron, and what sets him above (at least to me) other Force users, SWC has to - HAS TO - go into detail about the Light and Dark staus quo. Only then does Revan’s uniqueness become obvious. This isn’t easy, and if you’re not appreciative of the literary technique, maybe it comes off as a bit scattered. And you’re probably correct when you mentioned needing to know a few things prior to watching this video. But, fairly or unfairly, most of us already do, and we’re not wanting to view simply another character synopsis - we want something deeper than that. At any rate, I think SWC has done an excellent job at focusing on a sliver of Revan (granted, a large sliver) and expanded on it, exploring it thoroughly from multiple directions. This is what SWC’s audience wants; just read the comments and conversations for proof. The better ones are as complex as the episode! If this deeper analysis isn’t what you like, SWC is probably correct - his isn’t the channel for you. But I’d wager it will be, especially if you get sucked in to the Revan character. I’m not saying you’ll get bored with other channels, because every perspective helps paint a character. But eventually you’re going to want more depth; then you’ll be back.
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone produce this amount thought from a singular video of mine. Incredible. You have a unique mine friend and you should nurture that, not everyone is so gifted to see things the way you outlined. Thank you for your words. It humbles me to know viewers like you exist and I wish nothing but the best for you in life. Stay awesome friend.
Well! You just made my little day. You’ve no idea what an outlet your channel and others have been. Journaling has become very important for me, and when it’s regarding a subject I care deeply about, putting my thoughts to paper gives me the opportunity to learn about myself. In fact, I’ve been copying these thoughts into a OneNote notebook for some future use - whatever that may (or may not) be. While the OTR is a large component, the subjects I journal range from the Alien franchise, politics, The Constitution, Democracy, Capitalism, personal relationships, Faith, Religion, and Catholicism, mental health…you get the idea. I figure we all have these thoughts and ideas rattling around in our minds. What I have found is that people like yourself can write, narrate, and create content that triggers me in such a way I can coalesce some of these thoughts to writing. And after I do it enough, I begin to notice consistencies within the ‘randomness’ of journaling, which I’m supposing is the actual me. Taken alone, each article might not reveal much, but over the course of hundreds, a context emerges. See? Here I go again. :) This is why I think what you’re doing is so important. The Star Wars storyline is part of our cultural heritage now, not unlike Shakespeare; it’s important to write about because the story has so much to offer us, about us. I’m not an original thinker nor artistic, as people like you are. And that’s OK, because I still have a lot to write about. I just need people like you to spark an idea, and out it comes - words about me and maybe even words about us. I appreciate what you do, because your work transcends into the stories of us. Thank you for your kind words.
This is more of a rant than what I wrote. I really the think the problem is in the title. ' The FULL story of Darth Revan or anyone starts at birth and ends at death. Don't shirk your responsibilities. Your title is misleading. You provided here more of a large information dump. It is in no way the Full story of DARTH REVAN explained. I'm sure everyone worked hard and long on this but that means nothing if you don't produce your labeled product. My poke about the being more of a review of game is because you use their cut scenes over and over and over.. I appreciate you all working hard. But it has to produce! If not all your hard work is just that work. Work doesn't mean you'll accomplish your goal just because of all the hard work you did. Frankly who cares when producing a product for public consumption. We really worked hard so it must be awesome is for children. In the real world results not effort moves you forward. The title should be Everything you could ever find on Darth Revan, compilation. Boom 💥 done I have no complaints That's what you're claiming this is. I don't have the knowledge to refute that nor do I think it's wrong. Accent capitalization was used to pull in more people. It's a jumbled up mess of information from all over the place. Not put together canonically correct in a story. It isn't a story. It's an informative dump poorly labeled. Why are you the customer posting a ridiculous rant over a paragraph I wrote that was 100% factual. Why you wanted me to really put you on blast instead of SWC. IDK,? But 💥 boom there you go. Don't blame me for SWC reaching to far and turning all that HARD work into click bait. This is not a story for the last time it's just an info dump on Revan. Which is a lot easier work than creating a story. A story has a beginning, a middle, and an end. It usually starts with their origin and ends in their death or "retirement" for lack of a better term. If the title was changed my complaint no longer exists. I settled in for the tale of Lord Revan and I got a hard to follow information drop. I got no story. Now his is more of a rant too BTW. And who wrote your rant back to me ? It's someone's Mom SWC? It's sounds like someone else is telling me how bad I should feel because there perfect little angel wrote it. Grow up. Learn the real world. You try to trick someone with misleading information. You get called out now. You try to defend someone for misleading behavior it's either SWC themselves but I think someone's Mommy. If you want people to think they wrote a story from all the lore. The Full story of LORD REVAN but provided no story. It's click bait. Or information drop at best. Then you some stranger actually rant at me with misused large words still trying to defend someone you don't know? . Why can't you just be real with yourself. SWC messed up , got called out, and now some "reader" now posts a true rant about what i said? Doesn't make sense. So you're either a loser or one of the people at SWC's mothers. Why act as if SWC delivered a masterpiece here, lol? Why such a staunch defense of strangers? Somebody's Mom at SWC wrote this I knew it 😆
This is more of a rant than what I wrote. I really the think the problem is in the title. ' The FULL story of Darth Revan or anyone starts at birth and ends at death. Don't shirk your responsibilities. Your title is misleading. You provided here more of a large information dump. It is in no way the Full story of DARTH REVAN explained. I'm sure everyone worked hard and long on this but that means nothing if you don't produce your labeled product. My poke about the being more of a review of game is because you use their cut scenes over and over and over.. I appreciate you all working hard. But it has to produce! If not all your hard work is just that work. Work doesn't mean you'll accomplish your goal just because of all the hard work you did. Frankly who cares when producing a product for public consumption. We really worked hard so it must be awesome is for children. In the real world results not effort moves you forward. The title should be Everything you could ever find on Darth Revan, compilation. Boom 💥 done I have no complaints That's what you're claiming this is. I don't have the knowledge to refute that nor do I think it's wrong. Accent capitalization was used to pull in more people. It's a jumbled up mess of information from all over the place. Not put together canonically correct in a story. It isn't a story. It's an informative dump poorly labeled. Why are you the customer posting a ridiculous rant over a paragraph I wrote that was 100% factual. Why you wanted me to really put you on blast instead of SWC. IDK,? But 💥 boom there you go. Don't blame me for SWC reaching to far and turning all that HARD work into click bait. This is not a story for the last time it's just an info dump on Revan. Which is a lot easier work than creating a story. A story has a beginning, a middle, and an end. It usually starts with their origin and ends in their death or "retirement" for lack of a better term. If the title was changed my complaint no longer exists. I settled in for the tale of Lord Revan and I got a hard to follow information drop. I got no story. Now his is more of a rant too BTW. And who wrote your rant back to me ? It's someone's Mom SWC? It's sounds like someone else is telling me how bad I should feel because there perfect little angel wrote it. Grow up. Learn the real world. You try to trick someone with misleading information. You get called out now. You try to defend someone for misleading behavior it's either SWC themselves but I think someone's Mommy. If you want people to think they wrote a story from all the lore. The Full story of LORD REVAN but provided no story. It's click bait. Or information drop at best. Then you some stranger actually rant at me with misused large words still trying to defend someone you don't know? . Why can't you just be real with yourself. SWC messed up , got called out, and now some "reader" now posts a true rant about what i said? Doesn't make sense. So you're either a loser or one of the people at SWC's mothers. Why act as if SWC delivered a masterpiece here, lol? Why such a staunch defense of strangers? Somebody's Mom at SWC wrote this I knew it 😆
@@PaulSimon-ee3gg The video does include all the parameters you set. Yet you still choose to attempt splitting hairs… Honesty it’s kinda weird you feel so strongly about it. Double down if you wish but your criticism is not rational. If you spent as much time outlining the “missing” lore you accuse the video of, as you did formulating your comments, then perhaps your criticism would find some substance that can be worked with in a real conversation. I also have other videos using the same title and video structure. Will you accuse them of the same thing I wonder?
I’d say Revan is my favorite character because he was trained from birth as a Jedi & unlocked his true potential in the force. He is truly a Legend amongst both Jedi & Sith.
I would say that Revan is my favorite character because no matter what he/she does he strives to attain his/her own freedom. Revans entire story is about man and his friends overcoming brainwashed over and over again and following their instincts.
"There is no dark side nor a light side. there is only the force. i will do what i must to keep the balance. there is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish. there is passion, yet peace, there is serenity yet emotion, there is chaos yet order"
I've been reflecting on the Jedi code for decades and I've come to believe their teachings concerning passion is flawed. Individuals must have controlled passion. That is passion, without hate, malice or anger. It must be passion for a purpose. To fuel one's talents, whatever they maybe, so as to aid either a person, people or a society. Without passion to fuel, one eventually stagnates and peters out until they are but a shell of what they were. Then the true danger arises for in that shell, bitterness, loathing and the dark side can gain momentum until the promising individual who lacked passion is consumed. So passion must be cultivated but also the young must be given the tools to control that passion so it fuels but does not consume.
@@davidward2520 well said and great insight! I just learned from Jordan Peterson even chaos brings potential and spontaneous. It’s not always negative. Just shows yin and Yang is such a true perspective.
@@DarkJedi589 Anakin had the potential to become even stronger. If not for the BBQ accident. Anakin was artificially created to have the highest connection with the force.
I was led to believe Revan chose the dark side vs falling to the dark side like Malak did. It was explained as Revan seeing Lord Viciate and deciding the galaxy had no chance of surviving if Viciate returned to the galaxy with his version of the sith. So Revan, fully aware and cognitive, decided to embrace the dark side so that Revan could mold the sith into a less evil version of what Viciate had planned. More or less he turned to the dark side so that he could save the galaxy from destruction at the hands of Viciate. It would also make sense since Revan limited his use of the Star Forge so he wouldn't become corrupt from using it. I believe that is one of the things Malak disagreed with Revan on was use of the Star Forge as Malak used it much more often then Revan did. (I'll link the video I watched on it if i find it)
Nah in the revan book Revan explains that he and Malak were both completely dominated by the Emperor it wasn't until he and Malak were out of the empire's territory that Revan managed to break the hold that the emperor had on them and he used the force to alter their memories to erase any knowledge of what happened while allowing himself to recall a much more dangerous threat that the republic would have no hope against
I think that Revan had the innate ability to resist the corruption of the dark side, and thought that any jedi could do the same. Only after Malak glassed Telos he realized tye true dangers of the dark side.
This is a fascinating comment, thank you for bringing this to the conversation! Wow I never knew that, I'm playing knights of the Old Republic for the first time so I'm learning a lot about revan and this whole time period 👌🏼 good stuff!
I believe I heard somewhere Revan attacked Malak and chopped off his lower jaw after Malak decided to decimate Telos' surface without Revan's knowledge or direct command. Revan was so furious because of the unnecessary destruction act by his apprentice that he almost killed him. It was one of the moments that point to Revan's indecisiveness about his own allegiance to the dark side, where he saw how terrible person Malak became while being consumed by the dark side. That attack on Telos is the same one in which Carth Onasi' wife died and lost track of his son Dustil. As I said, it's just a story I heard somewhere a long time ago but am still being reminded of it while watching your video. Great work btw!
Appreciate you! It's been really hard for me to find a source for this but i'm sure it exists somewhere in KOTOR lore, hard to find though because I wanted to have the exact events in this video. Even I know i've heard it somewhere, at the same time I don't wanna get it wrong!
Wasn't a training accident. It was either they got in to a argument because of the destruction of the planet or it was said somewhere that malak tried to betray revan and he sliced his jaw off and let him live like that to teach him a lesson. It was like a disciplinary act. I'm not sure if it's those two but I definitely know it wasn't a training accident. Either way don't fuck with revan was the message he was giving lmao
I like to think that Revan had the innate ability to resist the dark side, being able to wield its power and being consumed by it. So it was a shock when he saw his best turned into a monster by it.
As much as some may claim SWTOR and the novel ruined Revan, I disagree, I think it undeniably ruined his counterpart protagonist of the second KoTOR, Meetra Surik. It is so disappointing what they did to her character, after having such an in-depth story and background filled with so much emotion and tragedy, only to be reduced to a Revan fangirl and being stabbed in the back by an ally, as if the General of the Mandalorian Wars isn't fucking alert enough to know when something is amiss and would never expect betrayal from a SITH PUREBLOOD, bruh get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Revan is the face of SWTOR, he is the Lennon of the Old Republic era, Meetra is unjustly treated as the Ringo.
Meetra was killed in novels, swtor (as a game) just tried to salvage it for I would say happy end :D all things considered. When I played shadow of revan, i felt they shouldnt bring him back, but later in ethernal empire it made sense and i really liked it. Sadly that game wasnt really that popular, but it had so many great characters and great storylines. I am glad videos like these exists that summarise at least some stories for people who didnt put countless hours into that game :D
Are you joking? They made it clear in the book that there was no way Meetra would have been able to sense that change because it wasn't something that Scourge had plotted or anything the man had a force vision that showed a jedi knight (the one in SWTOR) defeating the sith emperor so Scourge made a split second decision based on Revan's own comments
Hmm, yeah, I have to agree - at least regarding Meetra Surik. Every time I read about her decision to carry out Revan’s orders with a nod, it makes me lose respect for the Council for turning the lass into the Jedi Exile. And every time I think of her Force self staying with Revin, out of loyalty, instead of joining with the supposed Light Side makes me lose respect for the Light Side practitioners - or perhaps faulting them for their flawed interpretation of The Force. She gets a bad rap, but at least she has our respect. It’s too bad Revan’s reforms didn’t stick since we seem to have goody2shoes Skywalker now, at the modern present. I’m hopeful that Surik and Revan will someday live on to bring the Force into a gray reality. I personally can’t stand Skywalker, but the best thing I heard him admit was that the Jedi Order (and their Force interpretation) has done nothing but bring chaos into the galaxy.
I finished the Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan book yesterday and it was awesome. The book instantly made me a Star Wars fan and im looking at buying book 2.
As someone who has only played SWTOR, I'm now understanding 50% of why Revan is so respected, feared and worshipped. Now I need to play KOTOR to understand the other 50%. Great video! One of my favorites of the Explained series!
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Revan is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever, which is a really big reason why I want a Knights of the Old Republic series. He doesn’t fall under any category, but I’d best categorize him as a Gray Jedi. He ended up being one of the most powerful force users.
Idk if I’d call Darth Revan the Chosen One, as Anakin was the Chosen One because he would bring balance to the Force. Whatever the balance is (George explained it but idk if it really fit’s with how it’s interpeted in the E.U). I believe George said that the balance is removing the Sith and the Dark Side because it corrupt’s (misspelling) and Anakin destroyed it.
@@75JUNAKI I think it's fair to say that most people see Revan as the "Chosen one" of the Old Republic era :p The last thing Revan said before he bacame one with the force, was this. "The Force Seeks Balance, Always." Whether or not Revan brought balance is up for debate, but he sure as hell helped it happen, more than anyone else.
@@AbsurdFalcon Bleh. Given the fact that his 'balance' utterly and completely failed, if he's a chosen one, he's just as much a failure as Revan in bringing balance to the force. Luke has a better claim to the title than Anakin, and even then, he'd still be a failed messiah in both continuities, EU and Disney. Anakin's only real 'claims' come from a few cartoons and comics that only a small niche of people actually watched, and they have very little, if any, impact on the actual plot of the movies (aka the main story). If you hold main story of Revan side by side with the main story of Anakin, the biggest difference in terms of how special they are is that one character was declared a prophesized messiah because of a damn blood anomaly and the other wasn't. Like seriously. Take away the story with the Mortis Gods and it just becomes a bunch of old Jedi harping on about nonsense that's never proven true in any way beyond he threw an evil old wizard into a hole because he couldn't stand the sight of his son being tortured. Oooh, big woop, you killed a big bad sith lord, it isn't like they'll just come back again in a century or less like they always do because the Force is either actively malevolent, astoundingly stupid, or isn't intelligent at all and the idea that the Force has some sort of guiding intelligence is literally just the characters in-setting anthromorphising it. Viewed objectively, the whole 'chosen one bringing balance to the force' idea was some of the worst things we ever got from the prequels, and them being confirmed by the Mortis story arc is so wrong headed and dumb in terms of the overall quality of the narrative that the more I think about it the more it makes me dislike the prequels. Like, if it had been a genuine false prophecy, it could have been a cool plot point, but come on.
I’ve been looking forward to this video for awhile now. At the time of writing this comment, I’m almost half way through. Even still, I think you did an excellent job covering Revan, and I think this is your best explained video yet. I can feel the amount of love, passion, and hard work that went into this video in order to create it. You did an amazing job Sam. I hope you feel proud of yourself 👍😎💯. As a side note, I have a recommendation for your next explained video. Kreia/Darth Traya is one of the most unique and complex characters in all of Star Wars. As you well know, she has mastered both sides of the Force, trained the most powerful individuals of her era, and has a philosophy and outlook on the Force that’s far different from anyone who lived before or after her. I think an explained video on Kreia would be amazing and worthwhile.
Thanks for the great comment my friend! It's been a long time in the making and glad we can finally share it! - As for your suggestion, they are defo on my radar for peoples wants. I'm thinking we should re-stream the KOTOR saga and get some ground work done. You in?
The star forge and the foundry are 2 separate things. The foundry makes a droid army. The Star Forge is a ship yard, any droids it makes are for defence. There is an optional quest on Nar Shada in Star Wars The Old Republic where it is hinted at a third device that can make planets or star systems and maybe even hole galaxies and the player can collect a piece of it and it is said it would take thousands of years to make functional again.
They were all part of the same technology. The Star Forge / Foundry can be referred to as the same thing. They do the same things in essence and trying to explain the differences without anything concrete to confirm it, isn't something I want to do. - I also wanted to add some more info around Revans mask / The Star forge robes, but these things are all discussed at length in other people videos. This video, specifically focuses on Revan and his life. If we ever make a "Star Forge" explained, then i'll certainly dive into details and explain best I can. Other than that, I hope you enjoyed the video! (Bioware also had Malgus use Rakatan technology, which we were told is from the Star Forge. Which is how his Arkis Wode achieved the stealth tech and how HK was rebuilt)
There are not enough words or quotes to define or explain how amazing revan is and his story his feats are amazing and his choices what make him WHO HE IS WHAT HE HAD DONE HE IS BEYOND ANY CHARACTER
Revan was the greatest Jedi/Sith that had ever lived though the most powerful Sith to ever live was no doubt Viciate/Valkorion. Really great origins summary.
Valkorian froze me in carbonite, stole my ship and friends. I had to form an alliance of sith jedi and everyone In between to finally defeat him. In death his son joined me
Revan had the right idea No light nor dark JUST the force! Why wasnt this practiced more, i mean if there was benefits to the light side and the dark why not just use all of it 🤷♂️
Definitely. It's why Luke in Legends was so successful. The new order wasn't so rigid and inflexible,but at the same wasn't easy to fall prey to the excess that plagues the sith.
I don’t really like the SWTOR idea that Revan was brainwashed by the Emperor. I like Kreia’s implication that Revan’s turn was a choice or “sacrifice” a lot more.
It's actually both! - See, The Emperor did corrupt Malak and Revan, however both of them managed to break free of his control but in doing so, lost all memory of the Sith. At this point, Revan had *figured* out that something happened to him. He accepts the dark side as his new ally, he masters it, so he can use it against his enemies. This is what Kriea was talking about.
Revan: Traveler, you have been scrolling for a while now. Come, sit, meditate with me for a while. Am I the only one here who can imagine Revan saying this?
Fairly new to SW, and I prolly digested the stories of about fifty characters before stumbling on Revan - he instantly became my favorite without even really realizing why, at the time. It’s exhausting having a favorite character and then watching videos about that character. Every time something significant is brought up, I have to head over to the fandom sites and research THAT particular topic - which in turn takes me on its own multi-rabbit hole ride. This, and now consider I have a Revan playlist with about 75-100 videos in it! Maybe by the time I waft through them all, I’ll start writing my own stories of his carrying-ons.
If a 3rd game does eventually happen, i see the story being Revans lost apprentice coning to help the new order stop a new threat Revan was preparing for.
I'm halfway through and loving it so far. Some questions. Why didn't Revan and Malak not signal the council before going after the sith? Also if both forgot about the emperor why stay on the dark side and not rejoin the light?
Well they went on the search for the Sith right after beating Mandalore and winning the war. So while some people such as Meetra returned to the council, Revan and Malak alone went in search of the dark side influence. Well, the reason they didn't simply "break free" was because the Emperor turned them and corrupted them, as he did with many Jedi including some masters. Revan and Malak however, were able to twist the emperors instructions and make it seem like they were their own choices. It's a wierd and complex point in the story as it's meant to cover a plot hole I guess. Because you would otherwise be right in thinking they should have returned to being light sided jedi. But it wasn't that simple at least not for Revan. He used and mastered the dark to only save the galaxy.
@@SWCentral Ah gotcha that makes more sense thanks! Revan really should have sent a message to the council they were on dromand kass lol. But I guess that would ruin the story. I guess in their arrogance they thought they could handle it by themselves?
@@The-Blue-Knight Totally! I could imagine the jedi council being interested in the information. Seeing as it came from mandalore himself as well. Defo agree. I guess the plot was needed more than the council xD - there are quite a few things that need clarifying on Revan, he's been in so many different pieces of content that connecting the dots is sometimes left to imagination. SWTOR does a good job of continuing Revans story, but it kinda ruins the lore of the book imo or at least some of it. I'm hoping people will be pleased with the "version" we have given, it feels the most appropriate!
Revan is my favorite character in all of star wars . He was a sith lord,a republic war hero , a jedi master , the ultimate villian and hero . He was like the force itself and was , maybe the avatar of the force , since, like the force he was the master of both the dark and light sides .
Ugh, I pray disney never EVER finds out about the OTR, nor anything prior. The best outcome would be for disney to go bankrupt and shed its franchises (including Alien and Marvel et al) to true fan film houses, which could THEN be entrusted to remain true to the storyline, timeline, AND the fans wishes. A next-best outcome would be for these same true fan film houses license the SW franchise to create aforementioned content. There’s a reason I stopped watching any films after 30min into Solo. Frankly, I’d have been happy stopping after TESB, but I was young…. I just thank God so many fans expanded on the OTR universe, as it has so much to offer.
I alway’s like Darth Revan’s character (not Player Revan cause idk the character/personality). I believe what make’s the character good is that the decision’s Darth Revan made were alway’s Darth Revan’s own. Darth Revan’s mind was twist by the Sith Emperor (Vitiate), his influence of Darth Revan’s faded (I think) and Darth Revan remembered there being a threat in the Unknown Region’s and went on to destroy and rebuild the Republic. He kept the infastructure (misspelling) intact. During the Mandalorian Wars, from what I hear, Darth Revan was more concern of victory of war and wasn’t concern of morality. It seem’s Darth Revan was alway’s true to Darth Revan, self belief of what is right. That’s what I like of Darth Revan, it was not teaching’s, circumstance’s or example it was Darth Revan. I think I said Darth Revan x11 and Player Revan x1.
Just re-watched StarGate Atlantis the Michael arc 2x18 and further slightly resembles Revan's story captured amnesia blocked memories got the memories back fighting for good fighting for bad fighting for himself fighting for survival
@@SWCentralInteresting. I originally thought like the OP, but it never sat quite right with me as he had the name ‘Malak’ prior to becoming a Sith apprentice.
The only person in Star Wars to become one of the most accomplished Jedi masters, only to become one of the most accomplished Sith masters, to then come back to the Light Side. Truly, no one else can boast this.
Can I day something I have always wanted to say? If you are so brave why do you wear armor? If you are so strong why run? And if you didn't want conflict why did you create a weapon?
Revan should had conducted the same ritual vitiate performed on a planet with a force nexus and become even more powerful than he was as revan reborn, but he was very underpowered against vitiate
Ya, except that would go against his character. I don’t think he’d waste a planet and its population for the sake of his own power, regardless of whether or not he could justify it for the greater good. However, it would have made a good story if he could have manipulated the Mass Shadow Generator and the destruction of Malakor V to add to his power…rather than spawning Dark Nihlous instead.
hold up : Malak was his sith name, when he was a jedi he was called Alek, as his actual name was difficult to pronounce , Squinquargesimus...and Kreia is not her actual name, it's Arren Kae, who then became Darth Traya, who then introduced her self as "Kreia" to Meetra Suric(The Exile)...
Absolutely right about Malak being his Sith name! I would have done well to remind myself of that before committing but I don't find the info to be totally relevant as we still know who we are talking about. Getting lost in the lore is sooooo easy, especially when typing up a script for many hours and repeating so many names, hehe. None the less, appreciate your awesome comment!
Hmm, still thought he adopted (or was referred to as) ‘Malak’ prior to becoming a Sith apprentice. Edit: very interesting about Kreia…didn’t know that.
Love the vid, but a few slight corrections. Malek was just Alek when he and Revan met. ❤️ When Maleks jaw was cut off by Revan, he was already established as the apprentice. They disagrees over the star forge and Malek challenged him to lead and lost. Revan was never meant to reconnect to the force. The Foundry was not the Star Forge. It was a different Rakatan facility. The star forge was destroyed and became rings around Rakata Prime.
Yo! - Appreciate those points :) All are "true" - However, I strictly used material from the Revan novel / Star Wars: The old Republic (Of course KOTOR's as well). We used some small "filler" to close up some points that we knew wouldnt' leave anyone confused. Good shout on Malak's name :) we could have used Alek for sure! I really didn't want to *speculate* too much with the lore that didn't exist inside the material 99% know. We do intend on making more future videos that much shorter in length, with more facts about characters! For example, we could have spoke on Revan's mask, where it went after Scourge ripped it off in the throne room. Star Forge / Foundry - Video on that one in full length will be coming :) "When Maleks jaw was cut off by Revan, he was already established as the apprentice. They disagrees over the star forge and Malek challenged him to lead and lost." - I searched long and hard for how this happened, where did you see this? Was it a lore entry somewhere? How did miss this?! Tell me! xD
I hate that they gave Revan a canon sex/gender. Things were perfectly understandable even when being ambiguous/vague/gender-neutral. However, I love Revan's history/story. I agree with Revan and Malak's reasoning for going to war against the mandalorians. In essence the reasoning was "Kill millions of Mandalorian crusaders, save trillions of innocent lives." While the essence of the Jedi reasoning for refusing to join was "If we can find the greater hidden threat pulling the strings and stop it, all the lives in the entire galaxy are sacrifices that we are willing to make" which is also why I hate what the Jedi Council did to Meetra Surik. She went to war alongside Revan to save many more lives than would be taken. Which is why, in the second KOTOR game, I made a Dark Side character first. I also made a canon character (I gave her the canon name as well), which was Light Side. I never played the first one, until I found it on Mobile. I wanted to make a canon character first, but I have not found anything concrete other than it saying how Revan was unparalleled in combat and very strong with the force. So I am guessing the "canon" classes are Soldier into Jedi Consular. Which brings me to your video. I'm hoping your full history will be enough.
Never knew much of legends but I hear certain characters always - Malgus, Vitiate, Nihilus, REVAN. From what I’m hearing Revan might be my second favourite character behind Starkiller / Galen Marek
To this day? This quote didn’t exist until the mid-2000s. This isn’t real history. This is a fake movie and video game universe. You make it sound like these are actual ancient texts that are thousands of years old.
@@johnnyrocket1685Ok, canon man. Don’t forget what really makes a story or character great…us readers and fans, along with our changing perspectives and interpretations.
cool video, thanks for making it! I’m curious what source material you compiled all this lore from. I’m currently almost done with kotor 1 and plan on playing kotor 2, but a lot of this story and the gameplay on screen doesnt seem like it will come from kotor 2.
The Muker Jedi had the yellow lightsaber to begin with. I found one in Orion the constellation. It was a space lightsaber that bended when I used it. It's a black light blade with stars in it.
Theory: Revan was so strong in the force and understood it so well that it was him that created the prophecy that lead to Anakin killing Sideous after seeing it in a vision. Revan knew balance would prevail.
A response to an angry viewer:
I’m not sure I follow your rant - it might make sense if SWC was the ONLY Revan source material, but it’s not - I have a Star Wars: Revan playlist into which I’ve dumped about 75 episodes that deal directly with Revan, and another 30 or so where he’s ancillary. My point - Revan’s a complex character, and no single episode is going to capture all that nuance.
If you’re looking for a Revan outline or biography, go to the fandom websites - they’re excellent. But if you’re looking for episodes that deal with Revan’s personality, his take on the Force, and content creator’s reactions from dozens of different perspectives, then go collect all these episodes and dig in. More importantly, be prepared to read hundreds of viewer’s comments, because it’s THOSE that define Revan. How we, the fans, choose to interpret the character is what makes a character great; in the character analysis for Revan, it’s our comments that have made Revan a favorite.
Now, to SWC’s episode, if you view it as one of dozens of perspectives, you’ll appreciate his presentation of Darth Revan - which is difficult, as there’s simply not much material ‘out there’s that deals specifically about this. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t anything to write - indeed, just the opposite. By using artistic license and tackling the subject from different, sometimes nebulous, angles, we are given rational perspectives on what a Darth Revan might think and how he might behave. And by noting how he actually thinks and behaves, differently than what we expect, we can begin to appreciate his character’s complexity.
Viewing SWC’s episode in this way, maybe you can appreciate the effort he’s made. Look, as I’ve indicated, there is a LOT of Revan material out there - some of it’s good, some not so good, some average, and some, like SWC’s episode, is excellent.
The general episodes can be helpful, but in the end don’t foster a lot of thought and conversation - one in particular, literally, word for word, created an episode by reading directly from the fandom website…interesting, if you’ve not read the fandom sketch, but not really helpful in teasing out a Revan character analysis.
But SWC took a different approach, choosing a specific aspect (Darth Revan) of Revan’s biography, and expanding on it. This is not simple; it’s not a serial, step-by-step description. It’s an all-encompassing analysis that sometimes requires a lot of background to draw a fairly simple conclusion.
For example, we all know Revan wants to be gray, and that he goes on this journey that everyone on the Light Side says is impossible, and all on the Dark Side despise. But in order to understand what makes Revan unique, to tease out what’s within his Holocron, and what sets him above (at least to me) other Force users, SWC has to - HAS TO - go into detail about the Light and Dark staus quo. Only then does Revan’s uniqueness become obvious. This isn’t easy, and if you’re not appreciative of the literary technique, maybe it comes off as a bit scattered. And you’re probably correct when you mentioned needing to know a few things prior to watching this video. But, fairly or unfairly, most of us already do, and we’re not wanting to view simply another character synopsis - we want something deeper than that.
At any rate, I think SWC has done an excellent job at focusing on a sliver of Revan (granted, a large sliver) and expanded on it, exploring it thoroughly from multiple directions. This is what SWC’s audience wants; just read the comments and conversations for proof. The better ones are as complex as the episode!
If this deeper analysis isn’t what you like, SWC is probably correct - his isn’t the channel for you. But I’d wager it will be, especially if you get sucked in to the Revan character. I’m not saying you’ll get bored with other channels, because every perspective helps paint a character. But eventually you’re going to want more depth; then you’ll be back.
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone produce this amount thought from a singular video of mine. Incredible. You have a unique mine friend and you should nurture that, not everyone is so gifted to see things the way you outlined.
Thank you for your words. It humbles me to know viewers like you exist and I wish nothing but the best for you in life. Stay awesome friend.
Well! You just made my little day.
You’ve no idea what an outlet your channel and others have been. Journaling has become very important for me, and when it’s regarding a subject I care deeply about, putting my thoughts to paper gives me the opportunity to learn about myself. In fact, I’ve been copying these thoughts into a OneNote notebook for some future use - whatever that may (or may not) be. While the OTR is a large component, the subjects I journal range from the Alien franchise, politics, The Constitution, Democracy, Capitalism, personal relationships, Faith, Religion, and Catholicism, mental health…you get the idea.
I figure we all have these thoughts and ideas rattling around in our minds. What I have found is that people like yourself can write, narrate, and create content that triggers me in such a way I can coalesce some of these thoughts to writing. And after I do it enough, I begin to notice consistencies within the ‘randomness’ of journaling, which I’m supposing is the actual me. Taken alone, each article might not reveal much, but over the course of hundreds, a context emerges. See? Here I go again. :)
This is why I think what you’re doing is so important. The Star Wars storyline is part of our cultural heritage now, not unlike Shakespeare; it’s important to write about because the story has so much to offer us, about us. I’m not an original thinker nor artistic, as people like you are. And that’s OK, because I still have a lot to write about. I just need people like you to spark an idea, and out it comes - words about me and maybe even words about us. I appreciate what you do, because your work transcends into the stories of us.
Thank you for your kind words.
This is more of a rant than what I wrote. I really the think the problem is in the title. ' The FULL story of Darth Revan or anyone starts at birth and ends at death. Don't shirk your responsibilities. Your title is misleading. You provided here more of a large information dump. It is in no way the Full story of DARTH REVAN explained. I'm sure everyone worked hard and long on this but that means nothing if you don't produce your labeled product. My poke about the being more of a review of game is because you use their cut scenes over and over and over.. I appreciate you all working hard. But it has to produce! If not all your hard work is just that work. Work doesn't mean you'll accomplish your goal just because of all the hard work you did. Frankly who cares when producing a product for public consumption. We really worked hard so it must be awesome is for children. In the real world results not effort moves you forward. The title should be Everything you could ever find on Darth Revan, compilation. Boom 💥 done I have no complaints That's what you're claiming this is. I don't have the knowledge to refute that nor do I think it's wrong. Accent capitalization was used to pull in more people. It's a jumbled up mess of information from all over the place. Not put together canonically correct in a story. It isn't a story. It's an informative dump poorly labeled. Why are you the customer posting a ridiculous rant over a paragraph I wrote that was 100% factual. Why you wanted me to really put you on blast instead of SWC. IDK,? But 💥 boom there you go. Don't blame me for SWC reaching to far and turning all that HARD work into click bait. This is not a story for the last time it's just an info dump on Revan. Which is a lot easier work than creating a story. A story has a beginning, a middle, and an end. It usually starts with their origin and ends in their death or "retirement" for lack of a better term. If the title was changed my complaint no longer exists. I settled in for the tale of Lord Revan and I got a hard to follow information drop. I got no story. Now his is more of a rant too BTW. And who wrote your rant back to me ? It's someone's Mom SWC? It's sounds like someone else is telling me how bad I should feel because there perfect little angel wrote it. Grow up. Learn the real world. You try to trick someone with misleading information. You get called out now. You try to defend someone for misleading behavior it's either SWC themselves but I think someone's Mommy.
If you want people to think they wrote a story from all the lore. The Full story of LORD REVAN but provided no story. It's click bait. Or information drop at best. Then you some stranger actually rant at me with misused large words still trying to defend someone you don't know? . Why can't you just be real with yourself. SWC messed up , got called out, and now some "reader" now posts a true rant about what i said? Doesn't make sense. So you're either a loser or one of the people at SWC's mothers. Why act as if SWC delivered a masterpiece here, lol? Why such a staunch defense of strangers? Somebody's Mom at SWC wrote this I knew it 😆
This is more of a rant than what I wrote. I really the think the problem is in the title. ' The FULL story of Darth Revan or anyone starts at birth and ends at death. Don't shirk your responsibilities. Your title is misleading. You provided here more of a large information dump. It is in no way the Full story of DARTH REVAN explained. I'm sure everyone worked hard and long on this but that means nothing if you don't produce your labeled product. My poke about the being more of a review of game is because you use their cut scenes over and over and over.. I appreciate you all working hard. But it has to produce! If not all your hard work is just that work. Work doesn't mean you'll accomplish your goal just because of all the hard work you did. Frankly who cares when producing a product for public consumption. We really worked hard so it must be awesome is for children. In the real world results not effort moves you forward. The title should be Everything you could ever find on Darth Revan, compilation. Boom 💥 done I have no complaints That's what you're claiming this is. I don't have the knowledge to refute that nor do I think it's wrong. Accent capitalization was used to pull in more people. It's a jumbled up mess of information from all over the place. Not put together canonically correct in a story. It isn't a story. It's an informative dump poorly labeled. Why are you the customer posting a ridiculous rant over a paragraph I wrote that was 100% factual. Why you wanted me to really put you on blast instead of SWC. IDK,? But 💥 boom there you go. Don't blame me for SWC reaching to far and turning all that HARD work into click bait. This is not a story for the last time it's just an info dump on Revan. Which is a lot easier work than creating a story. A story has a beginning, a middle, and an end. It usually starts with their origin and ends in their death or "retirement" for lack of a better term. If the title was changed my complaint no longer exists. I settled in for the tale of Lord Revan and I got a hard to follow information drop. I got no story. Now his is more of a rant too BTW. And who wrote your rant back to me ? It's someone's Mom SWC? It's sounds like someone else is telling me how bad I should feel because there perfect little angel wrote it. Grow up. Learn the real world. You try to trick someone with misleading information. You get called out now. You try to defend someone for misleading behavior it's either SWC themselves but I think someone's Mommy.
If you want people to think they wrote a story from all the lore. The Full story of LORD REVAN but provided no story. It's click bait. Or information drop at best. Then you some stranger actually rant at me with misused large words still trying to defend someone you don't know? . Why can't you just be real with yourself. SWC messed up , got called out, and now some "reader" now posts a true rant about what i said? Doesn't make sense. So you're either a loser or one of the people at SWC's mothers. Why act as if SWC delivered a masterpiece here, lol? Why such a staunch defense of strangers? Somebody's Mom at SWC wrote this I knew it 😆
@@PaulSimon-ee3gg The video does include all the parameters you set. Yet you still choose to attempt splitting hairs… Honesty it’s kinda weird you feel so strongly about it. Double down if you wish but your criticism is not rational.
If you spent as much time outlining the “missing” lore you accuse the video of, as you did formulating your comments, then perhaps your criticism would find some substance that can be worked with in a real conversation.
I also have other videos using the same title and video structure. Will you accuse them of the same thing I wonder?
I’d say Revan is my favorite character because he was trained from birth as a Jedi & unlocked his true potential in the force. He is truly a Legend amongst both Jedi & Sith.
Lol. He’s Valkorian’s wasteman
I would say that Revan is my favorite character because no matter what he/she does he strives to attain his/her own freedom. Revans entire story is about man and his friends overcoming brainwashed over and over again and following their instincts.
He's my favorite because he dual wields one purple one red
He and Anakin are like bookends. They both destroyed their order for the most part when it refused to evolve.
You’re a fool! Ashoka is 1000 times better thus you are wrong. No need to respond with anything for I Have Spoken!
"There is no dark side nor a light side. there is only the force. i will do what i must to keep the balance. there is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish. there is passion, yet peace, there is serenity yet emotion, there is chaos yet order"
The force shall guide me, but only guide.
Agreed
Nah.
Hell yeah
Nope
I always thought the Jedi code was so amazing. But now I see the flaws in it. That both Jedi and Sith code hold flaws and yet wisdom.
I find it cool that if you add the word “when” to the start of each line of the code it gives it a whole new depth
I've been reflecting on the Jedi code for decades and I've come to believe their teachings concerning passion is flawed. Individuals must have controlled passion. That is passion, without hate, malice or anger. It must be passion for a purpose. To fuel one's talents, whatever they maybe, so as to aid either a person, people or a society. Without passion to fuel, one eventually stagnates and peters out until they are but a shell of what they were. Then the true danger arises for in that shell, bitterness, loathing and the dark side can gain momentum until the promising individual who lacked passion is consumed. So passion must be cultivated but also the young must be given the tools to control that passion so it fuels but does not consume.
@@davidward2520 well said and great insight! I just learned from Jordan Peterson even chaos brings potential and spontaneous. It’s not always negative. Just shows yin and Yang is such a true perspective.
i was on acid one night and realized both sides are right 😂
Balance.
You will not find a more legendary character than Revan. He is truly great. Sort of like the galactic version of Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar.
Anakin
@@SinclairSan Never again mention that name in the same solar system as Lord Revan!
Meetra Surik
@@JimmySpace69 Meetra served 'under' Revan. She was third in command behind he and Malak.
@@QoQabai658 L +ratio + meetra better + revan cringe + force wound
Revan is a true Jedi and sith and I love him for that
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He really is the most bad ass, truest example of both. His only competition is Anakin Skywalker
@@crupt1023 Nah, Revan's much stronger.
@@DarkJedi589 Anakin had the potential to become even stronger. If not for the BBQ accident.
Anakin was artificially created to have the highest connection with the force.
@@RicardoSantos-oz3ujBBQ accident 😭😭😭
I was led to believe Revan chose the dark side vs falling to the dark side like Malak did. It was explained as Revan seeing Lord Viciate and deciding the galaxy had no chance of surviving if Viciate returned to the galaxy with his version of the sith. So Revan, fully aware and cognitive, decided to embrace the dark side so that Revan could mold the sith into a less evil version of what Viciate had planned. More or less he turned to the dark side so that he could save the galaxy from destruction at the hands of Viciate.
It would also make sense since Revan limited his use of the Star Forge so he wouldn't become corrupt from using it. I believe that is one of the things Malak disagreed with Revan on was use of the Star Forge as Malak used it much more often then Revan did. (I'll link the video I watched on it if i find it)
Need that link.. lmk
Nah in the revan book Revan explains that he and Malak were both completely dominated by the Emperor it wasn't until he and Malak were out of the empire's territory that Revan managed to break the hold that the emperor had on them and he used the force to alter their memories to erase any knowledge of what happened while allowing himself to recall a much more dangerous threat that the republic would have no hope against
I think that Revan had the innate ability to resist the corruption of the dark side, and thought that any jedi could do the same. Only after Malak glassed Telos he realized tye true dangers of the dark side.
This is a fascinating comment, thank you for bringing this to the conversation! Wow I never knew that, I'm playing knights of the Old Republic for the first time so I'm learning a lot about revan and this whole time period 👌🏼 good stuff!
bro did NOT find the link ☠️
I believe I heard somewhere Revan attacked Malak and chopped off his lower jaw after Malak decided to decimate Telos' surface without Revan's knowledge or direct command. Revan was so furious because of the unnecessary destruction act by his apprentice that he almost killed him. It was one of the moments that point to Revan's indecisiveness about his own allegiance to the dark side, where he saw how terrible person Malak became while being consumed by the dark side. That attack on Telos is the same one in which Carth Onasi' wife died and lost track of his son Dustil.
As I said, it's just a story I heard somewhere a long time ago but am still being reminded of it while watching your video.
Great work btw!
Appreciate you! It's been really hard for me to find a source for this but i'm sure it exists somewhere in KOTOR lore, hard to find though because I wanted to have the exact events in this video. Even I know i've heard it somewhere, at the same time I don't wanna get it wrong!
Nah it was a training accident
Wasn't a training accident. It was either they got in to a argument because of the destruction of the planet or it was said somewhere that malak tried to betray revan and he sliced his jaw off and let him live like that to teach him a lesson. It was like a disciplinary act. I'm not sure if it's those two but I definitely know it wasn't a training accident. Either way don't fuck with revan was the message he was giving lmao
@Texan 07 just looked it up and apparently Malak thought revan was too soft and tried to take over by a duel but revan being revan owned his bitch ass
I like to think that Revan had the innate ability to resist the dark side, being able to wield its power and being consumed by it. So it was a shock when he saw his best turned into a monster by it.
As much as some may claim SWTOR and the novel ruined Revan, I disagree, I think it undeniably ruined his counterpart protagonist of the second KoTOR, Meetra Surik. It is so disappointing what they did to her character, after having such an in-depth story and background filled with so much emotion and tragedy, only to be reduced to a Revan fangirl and being stabbed in the back by an ally, as if the General of the Mandalorian Wars isn't fucking alert enough to know when something is amiss and would never expect betrayal from a SITH PUREBLOOD, bruh get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Revan is the face of SWTOR, he is the Lennon of the Old Republic era, Meetra is unjustly treated as the Ringo.
Meetra was killed in novels, swtor (as a game) just tried to salvage it for I would say happy end :D all things considered. When I played shadow of revan, i felt they shouldnt bring him back, but later in ethernal empire it made sense and i really liked it. Sadly that game wasnt really that popular, but it had so many great characters and great storylines. I am glad videos like these exists that summarise at least some stories for people who didnt put countless hours into that game :D
Are you joking? They made it clear in the book that there was no way Meetra would have been able to sense that change because it wasn't something that Scourge had plotted or anything the man had a force vision that showed a jedi knight (the one in SWTOR) defeating the sith emperor so Scourge made a split second decision based on Revan's own comments
Hmm, yeah, I have to agree - at least regarding Meetra Surik.
Every time I read about her decision to carry out Revan’s orders with a nod, it makes me lose respect for the Council for turning the lass into the Jedi Exile.
And every time I think of her Force self staying with Revin, out of loyalty, instead of joining with the supposed Light Side makes me lose respect for the Light Side practitioners - or perhaps faulting them for their flawed interpretation of The Force.
She gets a bad rap, but at least she has our respect. It’s too bad Revan’s reforms didn’t stick since we seem to have goody2shoes Skywalker now, at the modern present. I’m hopeful that Surik and Revan will someday live on to bring the Force into a gray reality.
I personally can’t stand Skywalker, but the best thing I heard him admit was that the Jedi Order (and their Force interpretation) has done nothing but bring chaos into the galaxy.
Hopefully that is something that Disney will completely retcon when they inevitably decide to retell this story.
I finished the Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan book yesterday and it was awesome. The book instantly made me a Star Wars fan and im looking at buying book 2.
All The Old Republic novels are FANTASTIC! I would encourage you to check out the Darth Bane trilogy of books!
@@SWCentral planning on it😊
As someone who has only played SWTOR, I'm now understanding 50% of why Revan is so respected, feared and worshipped. Now I need to play KOTOR to understand the other 50%. Great video! One of my favorites of the Explained series!
Thanks my friend! More coming!
Definitely play KOTOR and KOTOR 2. Those are some of, if not the best, Star Wars games ever made.
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do The Old Republic Explained and make a series about all the thing that happened including swtor, great video btw, nice one.
I 100% back this!!! I wish there was more on TH-cam like this
@@kianhardwick So what we thinking, like a complete SWTOR story explained from the perspective of Canon?
@@SWCentral Yh that seems like a great idea and no one could do it better ur vids are so well explained and well formatted
Revan is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever, which is a really big reason why I want a Knights of the Old Republic series. He doesn’t fall under any category, but I’d best categorize him as a Gray Jedi. He ended up being one of the most powerful force users.
8 months after the video is dropped, good freaking work man. Best summary of Revans tale thus far
I appreciate your kind words ☺️
The one and only, chosen one of the Old Republic
Idk if I’d call Darth Revan the Chosen One, as Anakin was the Chosen One because he would bring balance to the Force.
Whatever the balance is (George explained it but idk if it really fit’s with how it’s interpeted in the E.U).
I believe George said that the balance is removing the Sith and the Dark Side because it corrupt’s (misspelling) and Anakin destroyed it.
@@75JUNAKI I think it's fair to say that most people see Revan as the "Chosen one" of the Old Republic era :p The last thing Revan said before he bacame one with the force, was this. "The Force Seeks Balance, Always." Whether or not Revan brought balance is up for debate, but he sure as hell helped it happen, more than anyone else.
@@75JUNAKI In the EU Anakin is still the definative chosen one.
I am still upset that we killed him in a damn Flashpoint
@@AbsurdFalcon Bleh. Given the fact that his 'balance' utterly and completely failed, if he's a chosen one, he's just as much a failure as Revan in bringing balance to the force. Luke has a better claim to the title than Anakin, and even then, he'd still be a failed messiah in both continuities, EU and Disney. Anakin's only real 'claims' come from a few cartoons and comics that only a small niche of people actually watched, and they have very little, if any, impact on the actual plot of the movies (aka the main story). If you hold main story of Revan side by side with the main story of Anakin, the biggest difference in terms of how special they are is that one character was declared a prophesized messiah because of a damn blood anomaly and the other wasn't.
Like seriously. Take away the story with the Mortis Gods and it just becomes a bunch of old Jedi harping on about nonsense that's never proven true in any way beyond he threw an evil old wizard into a hole because he couldn't stand the sight of his son being tortured. Oooh, big woop, you killed a big bad sith lord, it isn't like they'll just come back again in a century or less like they always do because the Force is either actively malevolent, astoundingly stupid, or isn't intelligent at all and the idea that the Force has some sort of guiding intelligence is literally just the characters in-setting anthromorphising it.
Viewed objectively, the whole 'chosen one bringing balance to the force' idea was some of the worst things we ever got from the prequels, and them being confirmed by the Mortis story arc is so wrong headed and dumb in terms of the overall quality of the narrative that the more I think about it the more it makes me dislike the prequels. Like, if it had been a genuine false prophecy, it could have been a cool plot point, but come on.
I like to call Revan the first chosen one
I’ve been looking forward to this video for awhile now. At the time of writing this comment, I’m almost half way through. Even still, I think you did an excellent job covering Revan, and I think this is your best explained video yet. I can feel the amount of love, passion, and hard work that went into this video in order to create it. You did an amazing job Sam. I hope you feel proud of yourself 👍😎💯.
As a side note, I have a recommendation for your next explained video. Kreia/Darth Traya is one of the most unique and complex characters in all of Star Wars. As you well know, she has mastered both sides of the Force, trained the most powerful individuals of her era, and has a philosophy and outlook on the Force that’s far different from anyone who lived before or after her. I think an explained video on Kreia would be amazing and worthwhile.
Thanks for the great comment my friend!
It's been a long time in the making and glad we can finally share it! - As for your suggestion, they are defo on my radar for peoples wants. I'm thinking we should re-stream the KOTOR saga and get some ground work done. You in?
@@SWCentral You know it brother - I’m always game for any of your streams 👍😉
That was one of the most incredible stories I've ever heard thanks alot
It was a pleasure to share this with you, friend!
ALL HAIL LORD REVAN, ALL HAIL LORD REVAN...!
Hail Revan? I hardly knew her! *laugh track*
Squidward: ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH!
@@CopeAndSeeth
Me too
@@CopeAndSeeth Her?
All HAIL LORD REVAN!
The star forge and the foundry are 2 separate things. The foundry makes a droid army. The Star Forge is a ship yard, any droids it makes are for defence. There is an optional quest on Nar Shada in Star Wars The Old Republic where it is hinted at a third device that can make planets or star systems and maybe even hole galaxies and the player can collect a piece of it and it is said it would take thousands of years to make functional again.
They were all part of the same technology. The Star Forge / Foundry can be referred to as the same thing. They do the same things in essence and trying to explain the differences without anything concrete to confirm it, isn't something I want to do. - I also wanted to add some more info around Revans mask / The Star forge robes, but these things are all discussed at length in other people videos. This video, specifically focuses on Revan and his life.
If we ever make a "Star Forge" explained, then i'll certainly dive into details and explain best I can. Other than that, I hope you enjoyed the video! (Bioware also had Malgus use Rakatan technology, which we were told is from the Star Forge. Which is how his Arkis Wode achieved the stealth tech and how HK was rebuilt)
Well
There are not enough words or quotes to define or explain how amazing revan is and his story his feats are amazing and his choices what make him WHO HE IS WHAT HE HAD DONE HE IS BEYOND ANY CHARACTER
Revan was the greatest Jedi/Sith that had ever lived though the most powerful Sith to ever live was no doubt Viciate/Valkorion.
Really great origins summary.
Exar kun was more powerful than vitiate
Valkorian froze me in carbonite, stole my ship and friends. I had to form an alliance of sith jedi and everyone In between to finally defeat him. In death his son joined me
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 He was? Viciate mastered that transferrence thing...
Sick video. I've only read the book, so to see the rest of the story that was in the games was a pleasure.
KOTOR is on iOS/Android too so you can play the games easily as well
@@mihirrao24 I’m doing play phone games. Only ones that I can hop on and play for a couple mins
@@rc59191 Never really liked Pazaak and I don't recall what Sabacc was
@@mihirrao24 you sir, just made my night! Thank you!
Revan had the right idea
No light nor dark JUST the force!
Why wasnt this practiced more, i mean if there was benefits to the light side and the dark why not just use all of it 🤷♂️
Both sides were brainwashed. Also, not everyone can control the dark side without it controlling them. Most Jedi are afraid to try.
Definitely. It's why Luke in Legends was so successful. The new order wasn't so rigid and inflexible,but at the same wasn't easy to fall prey to the excess that plagues the sith.
Jolee Bindo in KOTOR was pretty gray when it came to the Force as well.
There are no benefits to the dark side. The light side is the Force in balance while the dark side is a corrupted version of the Force.
He was the most Powerful Jedi of his time he & Bastila were an excellent couple.
Revan has always been my favorite force user, followed by Bastila, Satile, and then Plo.
And Surik. And Traya/Kreia.
I don’t really like the SWTOR idea that Revan was brainwashed by the Emperor. I like Kreia’s implication that Revan’s turn was a choice or “sacrifice” a lot more.
It's actually both! - See, The Emperor did corrupt Malak and Revan, however both of them managed to break free of his control but in doing so, lost all memory of the Sith. At this point, Revan had *figured* out that something happened to him. He accepts the dark side as his new ally, he masters it, so he can use it against his enemies.
This is what Kriea was talking about.
@@SWCentral That's a *really* charitable interpretation of that.
@@ASNS117Zerothat isn't from SWTOR, it's from the Revan novel
As someone who never experienced his story, holy shit remaster those fucking games right now
Just found your channel through SWTOR Angels content, this is so cool! I really like your content lol will need to binge watch
We are but mere mortals before the Goddess Demoness.
@@SWCentral spoken like a true GD follower
@@SWCentral 🤷♂️
Back when ADULTS wrote Star Wars.
Back when true fans wrote the storyline.
Back when *Straight adults wrote Star Wars
Would love a MA/ R rating star wars movie just for us grown ups
@@corvuscrowtienlmao what gay character has even been announced in the universe?
Back when the main character didn’t kiss its enemy (Rey kissing Kylo).
gives me KOTOR nostalgia like crazy, they did a great job of getting you interested in the character
Play swtor then it's ftp and there is like 8 separate amazing stories for each class
“It’s over Mandalore!” …I have the high ground!
;)
Revan: Traveler, you have been scrolling for a while now. Come, sit, meditate with me for a while.
Am I the only one here who can imagine Revan saying this?
Fairly new to SW, and I prolly digested the stories of about fifty characters before stumbling on Revan - he instantly became my favorite without even really realizing why, at the time.
It’s exhausting having a favorite character and then watching videos about that character. Every time something significant is brought up, I have to head over to the fandom sites and research THAT particular topic - which in turn takes me on its own multi-rabbit hole ride.
This, and now consider I have a Revan playlist with about 75-100 videos in it! Maybe by the time I waft through them all, I’ll start writing my own stories of his carrying-ons.
it was a duel that Malak challenged Revan to, that fateful fight made Malak lose his jaw.
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If Keanu Reeves doesn't play Revan at some point I'm going to be very disappointed
i'd like him as a Ghost Rider in the mcu too.
@vikinginfidel
@vikinginfidel4293.....Don't worry..I've got it covered, they called me up, just the other week!
Disney will ruin it anyways
Damn this clearly has so much effort put into it. Nice job!
Means a lot man!
Yea means a lot 😉
It is so sad he never saw his son or wife again
Crazy Story Revan had his brain scrambled so many times over the years sheesh
They needa make live action old republic movies Fr
12:06 I thought you would say "He knew somehow Palpatine returned" hahaha
You have no idea how hard it is NOT to say that when the opportunity presents itself. Haha!
I was playin KOTOR 1 and 2 and I became obsessed with this story. I'm so sad that they never made a 3rd game
If a 3rd game does eventually happen, i see the story being Revans lost apprentice coning to help the new order stop a new threat Revan was preparing for.
They need a show about him
wouldn’t it be so cool if revan survived and became immortal, hiding in exile until he was found by someone in the new republic (aby)
I’m here for revan lore
Hopefully this video delivers!
I'm halfway through and loving it so far. Some questions. Why didn't Revan and Malak not signal the council before going after the sith? Also if both forgot about the emperor why stay on the dark side and not rejoin the light?
Well they went on the search for the Sith right after beating Mandalore and winning the war. So while some people such as Meetra returned to the council, Revan and Malak alone went in search of the dark side influence.
Well, the reason they didn't simply "break free" was because the Emperor turned them and corrupted them, as he did with many Jedi including some masters. Revan and Malak however, were able to twist the emperors instructions and make it seem like they were their own choices. It's a wierd and complex point in the story as it's meant to cover a plot hole I guess. Because you would otherwise be right in thinking they should have returned to being light sided jedi. But it wasn't that simple at least not for Revan. He used and mastered the dark to only save the galaxy.
@@SWCentral Ah gotcha that makes more sense thanks!
Revan really should have sent a message to the council they were on dromand kass lol. But I guess that would ruin the story. I guess in their arrogance they thought they could handle it by themselves?
@@The-Blue-Knight Totally! I could imagine the jedi council being interested in the information. Seeing as it came from mandalore himself as well.
Defo agree. I guess the plot was needed more than the council xD - there are quite a few things that need clarifying on Revan, he's been in so many different pieces of content that connecting the dots is sometimes left to imagination. SWTOR does a good job of continuing Revans story, but it kinda ruins the lore of the book imo or at least some of it. I'm hoping people will be pleased with the "version" we have given, it feels the most appropriate!
@@SWCentral I finished the rest of the video good stuff m8 :)
@@The-Blue-Knight Thanks man. Means a lot really
Fantastic video and recap of Revan’s story. Brings back memories of the KotOR games.
Thanks 🙏
Revan is my favorite character in all of star wars . He was a sith lord,a republic war hero , a jedi master , the ultimate villian and hero . He was like the force itself and was , maybe the avatar of the force , since, like the force he was the master of both the dark and light sides .
The next trilogy needs to be dedicated to Revan's story. That would be awesome but Disney would never do it
Ugh, I pray disney never EVER finds out about the OTR, nor anything prior.
The best outcome would be for disney to go bankrupt and shed its franchises (including Alien and Marvel et al) to true fan film houses, which could THEN be entrusted to remain true to the storyline, timeline, AND the fans wishes.
A next-best outcome would be for these same true fan film houses license the SW franchise to create aforementioned content.
There’s a reason I stopped watching any films after 30min into Solo. Frankly, I’d have been happy stopping after TESB, but I was young…. I just thank God so many fans expanded on the OTR universe, as it has so much to offer.
DARTH BANE.....
VS.
REVAN....
.......now that would be the sheeeet.
**grabs popcorn**
I alway’s like Darth Revan’s character (not Player Revan cause idk the character/personality).
I believe what make’s the character good is that the decision’s Darth Revan made were alway’s Darth Revan’s own.
Darth Revan’s mind was twist by the Sith Emperor (Vitiate), his influence of Darth Revan’s faded (I think) and Darth Revan remembered there being a threat in the Unknown Region’s and went on to destroy and rebuild the Republic.
He kept the infastructure (misspelling) intact.
During the Mandalorian Wars, from what I hear, Darth Revan was more concern of victory of war and wasn’t concern of morality.
It seem’s Darth Revan was alway’s true to Darth Revan, self belief of what is right.
That’s what I like of Darth Revan, it was not teaching’s, circumstance’s or example it was Darth Revan.
I think I said Darth Revan x11 and Player Revan x1.
I don’t disagree. Revan is himself, take him or leave him. And a lot of us picked ‘take him.’
I love the story of revan I can relate in many ways
If they make a movie they’re gonna make Revan and Malak, not saying it’s wrong ….but that’s what they’ll do
I’m like halfway through Star Wars: Revan book and man I’m loving it
Just re-watched StarGate Atlantis the Michael arc 2x18 and further slightly resembles Revan's story captured amnesia blocked memories got the memories back fighting for good fighting for bad fighting for himself fighting for survival
Like I said, the Jedi needs to work on their codes, like the fact that they can’t fall in love, I’d wanna go to the sith!
I love this series! Fantastic job!
Thank you! :3
Congrats on the 100k views!!! Such a good video
Thanks friend!
Malak was his Sith name. His Jedi name was Alek before he became a Sith Lord
Actually Malak was the name he used as cover to avoid arrest from the Jedi council.
@@SWCentralInteresting. I originally thought like the OP, but it never sat quite right with me as he had the name ‘Malak’ prior to becoming a Sith apprentice.
Loving this series keep it up ! :)
Glad you're loving it! :D - The Sith Emperor Explained | Complete History, next ;)
The only person in Star Wars to become one of the most accomplished Jedi masters, only to become one of the most accomplished Sith masters, to then come back to the Light Side. Truly, no one else can boast this.
Well done, my friend.
Thank you, my lord!
@@SWCentral You're welcome.
Can I day something I have always wanted to say?
If you are so brave why do you wear armor?
If you are so strong why run?
And if you didn't want conflict why did you create a weapon?
He wears the helmet for his sense of justice.
Sometimes running is the best strategy.
Peace takes strength, and bigger weapons than the bullies.
Amazing job on this!!
Thank you!
Revan should had conducted the same ritual vitiate performed on a planet with a force nexus and become even more powerful than he was as revan reborn, but he was very underpowered against vitiate
Ya, except that would go against his character. I don’t think he’d waste a planet and its population for the sake of his own power, regardless of whether or not he could justify it for the greater good.
However, it would have made a good story if he could have manipulated the Mass Shadow Generator and the destruction of Malakor V to add to his power…rather than spawning Dark Nihlous instead.
I love playing as Revan! Sometimes I still play KOTOR in my m2 Mac Mini! I love this game!!
Love it!
Revan was power. It was like staring into the heart of the Force
21:44
"I FOUND IT! Ova' HEA' 😁"
My sides split at that one XD
Happy to entertain 😂 my accent be thicc
hold up : Malak was his sith name, when he was a jedi he was called Alek, as his actual name was difficult to pronounce , Squinquargesimus...and Kreia is not her actual name, it's Arren Kae, who then became Darth Traya, who then introduced her self as "Kreia" to Meetra Suric(The Exile)...
Absolutely right about Malak being his Sith name! I would have done well to remind myself of that before committing but I don't find the info to be totally relevant as we still know who we are talking about. Getting lost in the lore is sooooo easy, especially when typing up a script for many hours and repeating so many names, hehe.
None the less, appreciate your awesome comment!
Hmm, still thought he adopted (or was referred to as) ‘Malak’ prior to becoming a Sith apprentice.
Edit: very interesting about Kreia…didn’t know that.
Revan is basically Anakin Skywalker if he had reach his full potential and master both sides of the force .
Great job on this bro! Your hard work payed off
Thank you my friend!
Welp 🤷♂️
Love the vid, but a few slight corrections. Malek was just Alek when he and Revan met. ❤️
When Maleks jaw was cut off by Revan, he was already established as the apprentice. They disagrees over the star forge and Malek challenged him to lead and lost.
Revan was never meant to reconnect to the force.
The Foundry was not the Star Forge. It was a different Rakatan facility. The star forge was destroyed and became rings around Rakata Prime.
Yo! - Appreciate those points :) All are "true" - However, I strictly used material from the Revan novel / Star Wars: The old Republic (Of course KOTOR's as well). We used some small "filler" to close up some points that we knew wouldnt' leave anyone confused.
Good shout on Malak's name :) we could have used Alek for sure!
I really didn't want to *speculate* too much with the lore that didn't exist inside the material 99% know.
We do intend on making more future videos that much shorter in length, with more facts about characters!
For example, we could have spoke on Revan's mask, where it went after Scourge ripped it off in the throne room.
Star Forge / Foundry - Video on that one in full length will be coming :)
"When Maleks jaw was cut off by Revan, he was already established as the apprentice. They disagrees over the star forge and Malek challenged him to lead and lost." - I searched long and hard for how this happened, where did you see this? Was it a lore entry somewhere? How did miss this?! Tell me! xD
@@SWCentral im not sure where i found the info initially, tbh. Probably a lore bite in KOTOR or SWTOR, but theres a wookiepedia article about it. :)
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I hate that they gave Revan a canon sex/gender. Things were perfectly understandable even when being ambiguous/vague/gender-neutral. However, I love Revan's history/story. I agree with Revan and Malak's reasoning for going to war against the mandalorians. In essence the reasoning was "Kill millions of Mandalorian crusaders, save trillions of innocent lives." While the essence of the Jedi reasoning for refusing to join was "If we can find the greater hidden threat pulling the strings and stop it, all the lives in the entire galaxy are sacrifices that we are willing to make" which is also why I hate what the Jedi Council did to Meetra Surik. She went to war alongside Revan to save many more lives than would be taken. Which is why, in the second KOTOR game, I made a Dark Side character first. I also made a canon character (I gave her the canon name as well), which was Light Side. I never played the first one, until I found it on Mobile. I wanted to make a canon character first, but I have not found anything concrete other than it saying how Revan was unparalleled in combat and very strong with the force. So I am guessing the "canon" classes are Soldier into Jedi Consular. Which brings me to your video. I'm hoping your full history will be enough.
loved it, you've got my attention.
Thank you! More coming!
guys revan is such a cool guy
lol love that Lotr intro
Edit: Also Sad Revan wasn’t the one to defeat the Emperor
Revan is so cool.
Never knew much of legends but I hear certain characters always - Malgus, Vitiate, Nihilus, REVAN. From what I’m hearing Revan might be my second favourite character behind Starkiller / Galen Marek
This was an awesome video mate 👍🏽
Thank you! Put a lot of effort in :3
26:06 we already knew it, T3-m4 is such a good boi
Reven and basilia taught the new exile papatia Quinn
T3 is the hero we needed
wow really good edit
Thank you!
Revan's dark side arc was cool asf
Finally lets go
The best Star Wars character ever
Through Victory my chains are broken....the force will set me free. That holds true to this day.
To this day? This quote didn’t exist until the mid-2000s. This isn’t real history. This is a fake movie and video game universe. You make it sound like these are actual ancient texts that are thousands of years old.
yep.@@johnnyrocket1685
@@johnnyrocket1685Ok, canon man. Don’t forget what really makes a story or character great…us readers and fans, along with our changing perspectives and interpretations.
"Impressive, most impressive" sums up my thoughts on the intro.
Thanks, friend!
@@SWCentral where did you get that intro video from?
@@DarthVader-vs1ji The part with Revan? The footage is from the KOTOR remaster teaser, but I removed all the audio and replaced it :)
@@SWCentral Can you post that part as a YT shorts or something? Please please please 🙏
Revan is truly the greatest ever
cool video, thanks for making it! I’m curious what source material you compiled all this lore from. I’m currently almost done with kotor 1 and plan on playing kotor 2, but a lot of this story and the gameplay on screen doesnt seem like it will come from kotor 2.
Thanks! I gathered my notes from the games KOTOR 1&2, SWTOR and the Revan novel. I didn't use much from the KOTOR comics as the writers are different.
The Muker Jedi had the yellow lightsaber to begin with. I found one in Orion the constellation. It was a space lightsaber that bended when I used it. It's a black light blade with stars in it.
Gdamn.... there's so much I didn't know about Revan....
Hmmm a fellow northerner I'll hazard a guess and say just across the bridge, Hull? Excellent content subbed !
Indeed! Born and raised here. Thanks my friend!
21:42
"Have you found it yet?"
"NO!"
Actual scene from the book xD
Revan has become my favorite character in the whole star wars mythos. He makes Darth Vader seem like a whiny little bitch in comparison
Thank you!
Revan is my favorite hands down the reason i even watch stars wars
Theory: Revan was so strong in the force and understood it so well that it was him that created the prophecy that lead to Anakin killing Sideous after seeing it in a vision.
Revan knew balance would prevail.
Awesome theory! However the prophecy was written long ago. Roughly 5000 years or so before Revans time. Maybe longer!