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reupload? and also, I think the bezels make the imac look good. the lg 5k display has barely any bezels and look how that turned out compared to the imac.
Thanks for your review. I noticed that the fan of the imac 27" 5k 2017 is also in the normal use, in a quiet room, noticeable. Is that normal? Cheers Mark
Man, some people really hate bezels...probably the same nuts who keep driving us towards designs so thin they have to ditch hard drives....to me it seems there is a significant visual benefit of having something between the screen and whatever one's wall looks like. This is common sense in any sort of decent [home] theater setup but I guess we'll have to have Apple engineer them out so we can finally have a completely invisible computer that looks like nothing.
Yeah, I don't understand the obsession with removing bezels/borders either. I mean to the point where the new iPhone has to have a huge notch in the way of the thing just to get rid of them. lol
Great video, the point of the bezels is so that you can put your post-it notes around the side of the monitor it was designed that way years ago but it would look dope without any at all. I suppose their design team is working on that option already.
Will it be a good option in 2019? I only want a Mac that can handle simple After Effects motion graphic videos ( think 2d graphics, animated titles, audio files, etc. ), not too heavy. When compared to the new Mac mini or the 2018 Macbook Pros, what would you choose for that purpose?
Good honest video. I chose the 2017 5K with the i7 4.2ghz with 8gb for 4K video. The only two mistakes I made were; 1 didn't notice the keyboard option with numeric pad was way done in the list, and albeit super expensive 2 the 512GB SSD and should have opted for the 1TB as the internal memory is blazingly fast compared to external SSD for video.
Neil,can you please suggest me ,I have dilemma!shell I buy the 1tb fusion drive is it good enough for photo and video editing and use external ssd after of shell I get one time 512 ssd?thanks!
External SSDs will be limited to the bus speed; i.e. USB C around 400-500MBs. Internal is over 2100 MBs. To do real time 4k you'll need that. If not you need to run optimised media for 1/2 or 1/4 resolution viewing in the edit timeline.
it is fast for both, yet since i use Lightroom with the iMac 5K and a second 4K UHD BenQ sw320 Adobe has to redraw every change when above >2560 pixel HD displays. Not a problem on PC.
I got one of these and the display is incredible. I am also enjoying the OS X experience coming from 20 years of using Windows. The bezels and bloody ridiculous though. The bottom chin is almost 10cm thick. If it wasn't for the massive bezels I would give this computer a 9.5/10.
Thanks for the review! Do you think it's better to buy a cheaper 5K but upgrade to 1T SDD drive, or get an expansive 5K with 2T built-in fusion drive? They are similar price range. I use it for graphic design work (Adobe cloud). Thanks!
Hi, I am planning to buy 2017 iMac 27 inches but confused which one pick? I mean mid or high end ? because the high end has 2tb HDD and 8gb Graphics! Suggest the best bang for the buck.
1699...here you have to pay well over 2300 euros for the BASE 27" model. And still don't get any official store. Why exactly I can't order one from another country's official Apple site?
I myself, and several photographers that I know use iMacs to edit photos. The most common calibration tools used that I know of are the Datacolor Spyders. www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBSL2TO/ref=dp_prsubs_2
How much of a difference did the extra ram make? Have got one of these, but the DDR4-2400 is not yet readily available in my country (South Africa). Can only get 32gb Crucial sticks... so a little on the expensive side. Would it be ok to wait a little while or does the extra ram make a BIG noticeable difference?
Besides prosumer video/photo editing use(most reviewer test it on those field only), for real professional works like engineering, products design and so on of professional industries use, does top of the line 15 inch MacBook Pro still a best choice or ThinkPad or Dell Precision are better? Or I should get a i7 2017 27 inch iMac?
I get your point but you make this sound cheap or a bargain, its still a premium price - granted at the lower end of the premium spectrum. Good points raised about upgradability and eGPU 😉
Paganino Mission Don't buy an iMac anyways. This is a horrible review. Not the best "bang for your buck" whatsoever. Build your own, you can build a beastly PC which will completely destroy the iMac, for the same price. You can get a Ryzen 7 1700X 8-Core processor for $300, with a GTX 1080 that will give you amazing graphics performance for around $580. Pick up some 32GB DDR4 RAM and you have a great PC so far. You'll also need an SSD, hard drive (optional), motherboard, optical drive (optional), and a CPU cooler. And that's for not even the price of the overpriced iMac you would be wanting to get.
You right CarrotStyks. And I didn't buy one. I build my own pc. with the following specs: Coolmaster 5 pro mid tower Intel core i7-7800X Hexa 6-Core 3.5Ghz Turbo boost 4.0Ghz 256GB PCi Flash SSD (M2 Drive) Msi Nvidia geforce gtx 1050 Ti 4GB 16GB 2400MHZ DDR4 ram 4k display from philips All for 1550euro, where the iMac is at 1935euro and the iMac have low specs also
Just bought a 2017 27" base model imac for $1100 on my local Facebook market place. Bought 32GB of RAM from OWC, going to buy a i7 7700K and a 1TB SSD to replace the HDD partition of the fusion drive. OWC RAM ($280)+ i7 ($300)+ 1TB SSD ($280) = $860 which puts me right at $2,000 for a MONSTER of an iMac and saves me just over $3,000 had I bought all of this brand new from Apple. Being that I work on Photo Shop, Final Cut, Davinci Resolve, and Lightroom and I have an eGPU, it's a great damn buy. I definitely recommend anyone who can buy the 2017 base model of the iMac 27" to do so and upgrade it.
So would you recommend this model for basic video editing , using go pro and dji mavic pro , and also for some home recording of music .? keeping all my material on a external hard drive . I was also thinking of getting the 512 ssd storage , this seems to be the way things are going.
If you're for basic video editing, It's a good machine. But if you're into advanced editing, you will need to look at options like Ryzen running 8 cores. For better overall experience you will still need more cores if you're going to render videos which will need more cores to utilised at the same time.
I'm about to buy this iMac with these specifications for motion graphics like After Effects and start learning C4D. Can you tell me if it's enough? Retina 5K Display - 3.8GHz Processor 3.8GHz quad-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor Turbo Boost up to 4.2GHz 8GB 2400MHz memory, configurable up to 64GB 2TB Fusion Drive1 Radeon Pro 580 with 8GB video memory Two Thunderbolt 3 ports Retina 5K 5120-by-2880 P3 display I will upgrade to 32 GB of RAM later.
Wait...? You can connect external GPU for gaming? Does that mean I can use something like a Razor core with GTX1080 via thunderbolt and install windows via bootcamp for serious gaming?!!??!
I was able to trade up my _27-inch i7 2012_ problematic piece of junk that kept shutting down to the _27-inch Retina 5K i7_ that was gifted to me. The difference is extraordinary. It is vastly superior.
Great review and tips. One thing: I got the 2017 iMac 27" with Final Cut software; however, I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) that I'd like to use it on, too. The iMac has it; the MacBook Pro doesn't. How can I resolve that?
chateau7 login to the iMac using your account to link the FC then check on your purchased tab on your macbook to download it. Try refreshing the page if it doesn't show. If this doesn't work, call Apple support and they will link it to your account for you.
Would have been nice to get some pricing on the external GPU options and some performance comparisons. Personally I don't care about the bezel and the "chin" and see no reason to waste my $$ not to have them, especially when we are considering value for money. Oh, and could you please give your slide a break? Too much sliding, already! LOL.
As someone who will purchase this 2017 5K 27” unit, i am not enthusiastic by what some consider the high points. The i5 is very dated and graphics that drive it is years out from PC. The monitor and access to memory is great but keyboard is the scissors crap coming out MacBook Pro which can only be replaced by purchasing the new three version. Charging the mouse means turning it upside down and being able to use it. The hard drive is another joke like the intel hybrid hard disk SSD. Major surgery to upgrade this in unit. And the ports are good but another strange Apple idea. Say goodbye to my MacBook that is going in as trade on this unit, minimum except i7 processor.
Indeed, remove the remove the bezels. Add a TouchID sensor. Replace the function key row with a touch strip to the keyboard (and keep the price the same) - and I'll upgrade from My 2010 17" MBP to an iMac: way I'm paying over €3.000 for a new MacBook Pro (the top-tier model MacBook Pro costs €5.000,- here in Europe. That's about $5.600!!! No wonder one buys it).
Well sounds like the exchange rate when to shit, top tier macbook pro is like £3.5k in the UK I believe, I mean why you'd pay that for a laptop and not just settle for a iMac for editing I have no idea :P
The focus (and reuse of video on) external GPUs is simply irrelevant, or at least wishful thinking at this point. Also, the mid-level 27" iMac is a better deal, with a better video card and 3Tb Fusion Drive option not available for the entry level machine. And you *do* want a bigger Fusion Drive, 2TB or 3Tb, because those come with 128Gb SSD while the stock 1Tb Fusion Drive only comes with 32Gb SSD. And if you're putting lots of RAM into the machine Apple RECOMMENDS that iMacs with 32+ GB of RAM be configured with at least a 2 TB Fusion Drive. (For more on that see tidbits DOT com/article/17383)
I'm trying to decide in buying a Macbook Pro or a iMac..someone said the imac will get a design change next year but need a computer now tho and budget is tight, what should I get?
want something to look at and admire , then buy Mac, want a workhorse , then buy a PC, personally I cant give a shit what it looks like as long as it has horsepower under the hood.. sadly lacking in Mac . 3 HD drives? ummm no. SSD? umm no..Crossfire Umm no, 2 gpus? umm .. no... ummm bag of shite !
I think the design is "Timeless" not dated. Who cares if there is a bit of bezel around the screen!!! My new 2017 27" iMac sits nicely next to my 2010 27" iMac. Both i7 chipsets, of course the 2017 is a much better computer.
Yeah the bezels are a bummer, but as Darryl says, you need room for the components and heat dissipation (I reckon heat is/was the main issue). Still, it's 2017 and three years on, so if they wanted to ditch the bezels I think they could've found a way to make it work with today's components. Although on the forums, people have been saying the i7 heats up quite a bit and gets the fan revved up high.
This is a computer, not a phone. Those "bezels" are great for creatives and professionals who work with images, video or graphics design so they can see the files against a black background. Professional monitors even have black frames built in for that reason.
Why are bezels an issue on a computer? We care on a phone because the overall size of a phone matters, so the less border that isn’t screen, makes for a smaller easier to handle phone. If the bezels were smaller on the iMac, or any computer monitor, what does that accomplish actually? Yeah, it would look cooler, but isn’t a functional thing like it is on a phone. I’m sure they will shrink the bezels eventually though since that’s what people perceive as being better.
Ohh you know I'll just buy a separate $500 GPU and a $300-$400 case for the damn thing. Just so I can get kicked in the balls when I plug it into a T3 port. And get half the half the performance. Ya so worth the money for me to buy. AIO computer, in which I'm forcing myself to buy other shit. Just to make it on par with say a custom built $1200 windows PC. I get it that your saying this is the best that Apple has to offer for there macs. But it's still feasible for someone with a regular job and salary. Sorry but not sorry. Apples computers are just not worth the money that your forking over.
The Realist Then the computer is not for you. If you feel like you'll have a "better" experience with a windows computer then go get one. But there are people out there that really like the Mac experience, and that values their user experience combined with the nicer design higher then a GTX 1080 Ti, that they'll never truly take advantage of. And that also prefers to get the "real deal" instead of trying to build a Hackintosh and constantly be worried every time a mac update comes out. For those people, this imac is a really good deal.
Néona "higher than a GTX 1080 ti" wtf are you talking about here. Besides that ya the experience is all Apple has going for it. If maybe they had premium current hardware will be the king of the class. But seeing as windows does while Apple neuters there current gen products. Still with age old hardware, that isn't up to date at all. And I never said I wanted a hackintosh. There absolute shit due to software and driver issues. If you seriously want to go the hacking Tosh and waste all that time and effort. Then you shouldn't have a problem paying out of your ass if you're willing to pay that anyways just to have a crappy experience with Apple software.
Danuka100 Ya 5k displays are nice an all. But let me ask you this. One do you even have the required Wi-Fi speeds to take it manage of watching 5Kcontent??? no you don't. And since you're not going to be watching 5K content the display will scale it down running the pictures at a lower qualities. So your paying more for a display that you will only use to look at your wallpaper. That's why it's not worth it to get a high-end monitor because you're never going to use that 5K 4K quality. Not today anyways
Two things. The iMac has gigE, so the wifi issue really is nonexistent. Content would be a better point, there is hardly any and that's counting preview videos. As for usefulness of 5k res. Apple sells a lot of machines to creatives and for them it's actually very handy to have a screen res 4k+ because it offers the opportunity to edit 4k video with room to spare or 1080p with loads of extra screen real estate left. Same goes for larger photos and other artistic projects. I'm not iMac apologist, but you should argue a bit better.
DO NOT BUY THESE! They have VERY poor image retention - the screens degrade over time and the retention becomes unbearable. Burn in occurs after 2 minutes and lasts for 10+
This is stupid. The iMac is one of the worst values for a computer. Build your own. Or buy a PC. Everything is going to be cheaper and better. This is a completely biased, bullshit reveiw.
+Troy Lewis I guess you actually forget some things.What about the speakers, the keyboard, the mouse, the build quality and the (crappy) webcam.I don't think that you can get a PC that is a lot cheaper than the iMac...
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I love the "Value" added of the keyboard, mouse and lightening cable. I assure you those items are PART of the price.
I love my 2017 imac entry level , it's gorgeous and runs great !
Bought it today for my wife’s birthday, she loves it it’s beautiful!
reupload? and also, I think the bezels make the imac look good. the lg 5k display has barely any bezels and look how that turned out compared to the imac.
Top Dawg i noticed that too 🤔
If Apple updated the 27" 5K iMac to not have a bezel, they would likely take away the ability for the end-user to upgrade their memory. No thanks...
Thanks for your review. I noticed that the fan of the imac 27" 5k 2017 is also in the normal use, in a quiet room, noticeable. Is that normal? Cheers Mark
Man, some people really hate bezels...probably the same nuts who keep driving us towards designs so thin they have to ditch hard drives....to me it seems there is a significant visual benefit of having something between the screen and whatever one's wall looks like. This is common sense in any sort of decent [home] theater setup but I guess we'll have to have Apple engineer them out so we can finally have a completely invisible computer that looks like nothing.
Thanks for sane comment
Yeah, I don't understand the obsession with removing bezels/borders either. I mean to the point where the new iPhone has to have a huge notch in the way of the thing just to get rid of them. lol
GPBX01B not to mention make it less useful in the redesign so it looks good
Great video, the point of the bezels is so that you can put your post-it notes around the side of the monitor it was designed that way years ago but it would look dope without any at all. I suppose their design team is working on that option already.
Will it be a good option in 2019? I only want a Mac that can handle simple After Effects motion graphic videos ( think 2d graphics, animated titles, audio files, etc. ), not too heavy. When compared to the new Mac mini or the 2018 Macbook Pros, what would you choose for that purpose?
Good honest video. I chose the 2017 5K with the i7 4.2ghz with 8gb for 4K video. The only two mistakes I made were; 1 didn't notice the keyboard option with numeric pad was way done in the list, and albeit super expensive 2 the 512GB SSD and should have opted for the 1TB as the internal memory is blazingly fast compared to external SSD for video.
Neil,can you please suggest me ,I have dilemma!shell I buy the 1tb fusion drive is it good enough for photo and video editing and use external ssd after of shell I get one time 512 ssd?thanks!
External SSDs will be limited to the bus speed; i.e. USB C around 400-500MBs. Internal is over 2100 MBs. To do real time 4k you'll need that. If not you need to run optimised media for 1/2 or 1/4 resolution viewing in the edit timeline.
Ohhh I see! But do you do 4 k video with those 2tb? For photo won't be issues ,will be like bread and butter right?
Ahhh sorry,so you end up with 512ssd instead 1tb?
it is fast for both, yet since i use Lightroom with the iMac 5K and a second 4K UHD BenQ sw320 Adobe has to redraw every change when above >2560 pixel HD displays. Not a problem on PC.
Just got a birthday present for this model. I’m so blessed. Thanks god and my fam..
recktmedz wow that’s a expensive birthday gift though
ikr
After having a MacBook Pro with SSD for several years I would never to back to a spinning disk.
What is the r/w speed of the hard drive?
I got one of these and the display is incredible. I am also enjoying the OS X experience coming from 20 years of using Windows. The bezels and bloody ridiculous though. The bottom chin is almost 10cm thick. If it wasn't for the massive bezels I would give this computer a 9.5/10.
But should I buy it now or wait for a new version
Is a 2014 version of this still a good buy for $350? Or is it too old? I’m just browsing the web and watching TH-cam videos maybe some light gaming
Should I get this if I don’t do any video or photo editing just some assignments and web browsing ?
Watching this on my iMac 5k just unbelievable
Thanks for the review! Do you think it's better to buy a cheaper 5K but upgrade to 1T SDD drive, or get an expansive 5K with 2T built-in fusion drive? They are similar price range. I use it for graphic design work (Adobe cloud). Thanks!
Should I go for this iMac or the 21.5 in with the i7? I will mainly use it for video editing and slight gaming
Hi, I am planning to buy 2017 iMac 27 inches but confused which one pick? I mean mid or high end ? because the high end has 2tb HDD and 8gb Graphics! Suggest the best bang for the buck.
1699...here you have to pay well over 2300 euros for the BASE 27" model. And still don't get any official store.
Why exactly I can't order one from another country's official Apple site?
You would pay the same or more, considering the sales tax that's not announced in the US.
Does 2017 iMac 27 suffer from display image retention, persistence , ghosting ?
I have heard that the imac screens are impossible to calibrate right and should not be used for photo editing cause because they are too glossy. True?
I myself, and several photographers that I know use iMacs to edit photos. The most common calibration tools used that I know of are the Datacolor Spyders. www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBSL2TO/ref=dp_prsubs_2
Hey, I’m planning to invest on an iMac, do you think there will be a new model announcing this year end or this month?
How much of a difference did the extra ram make? Have got one of these, but the DDR4-2400 is not yet readily available in my country (South Africa). Can only get 32gb Crucial sticks... so a little on the expensive side. Would it be ok to wait a little while or does the extra ram make a BIG noticeable difference?
Besides prosumer video/photo editing use(most reviewer test it on those field only), for real professional works like engineering, products design and so on of professional industries use, does top of the line 15 inch MacBook Pro still a best choice or ThinkPad or Dell Precision are better? Or I should get a i7 2017 27 inch iMac?
Thoughts on the top 21.5” with the i7 upgrade vs the base 27” with i5?
Apple and value never thought I would ever be saying them in the same sentence but I am.
What external storage device is that you have there
I agree it’s beyond a steal..
Can you give Mac OS download link in the discription . DMG file
Wait what did you do with that extra gpu and screen? Do you have any projects on that?
Do we expect new iMac 2018 model. .?
What’s thunderbolt?
OH SH*T I did not know the new Mac OS supports external GPU's.....Guess that cinches the deal for me!
Waiting for the new model with SSD installed 8th gen CPU 6 cores yeah!
Please test this 5K with Lightroom. It seems to have several issues
Using Lightroom. What issues are you talking about?
I agree the bezels need to go but I like the chin!
What’s the dark keyboard u have? Looks mint!
www.amazon.com/Matias-Wireless-Aluminum-Keyboard-Space/dp/B0195OR3BA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1499225336&sr=8-2&keywords=Matias+Wireless+Aluminum+Keyboard&linkCode=sl1&tag=youtube-bnjm-20&linkId=15ce18aec010dfff84a0b4b7aef3c13b
Why do you have Tweetbot and the official Twitter app?
I got one for video editing it is a beast
Just ordered my self a 21.5 4K too replace my 2012 MacBook Pro im stoked
you fucked up not getting the 27 inch...
Returned it and kept my 2 thousand dollars
What camera did you record your video on?
Nice and thorough Jeff. Thanks.
Nice editing
What keyboard are you using here?
I get your point but you make this sound cheap or a bargain, its still a premium price - granted at the lower end of the premium spectrum. Good points raised about upgradability and eGPU 😉
I am waiting for an AMD CPU and Radeon GPU iMac to come out, hopefully in 2018.
See there that good that they nick the OS and the hardware
I know a 7700k upgrade has been done. But logically can you fit a 8700k since it has the same socket?
HAFIDZ DIN No. You can't replace a CPU unless you replace the motherboard, too.
can you make a video on how to create a hackintosh for users that dont own a mac ? please!
There are 100s of videos on that on youtube. Just made my hackintosh under 2 hours
my dream computer
I want to buy the iMac 21.5 4k for my video and audio editting. Whats is the diffrence between the 4K and 5k model without the screen size
Paganino Mission I'm pretty sure the 27 has a tad better processor and graphics
Paganino Mission Don't buy an iMac anyways. This is a horrible review. Not the best "bang for your buck" whatsoever. Build your own, you can build a beastly PC which will completely destroy the iMac, for the same price.
You can get a Ryzen 7 1700X 8-Core processor for $300, with a GTX 1080 that will give you amazing graphics performance for around $580. Pick up some 32GB DDR4 RAM and you have a great PC so far. You'll also need an SSD, hard drive (optional), motherboard, optical drive (optional), and a CPU cooler.
And that's for not even the price of the overpriced iMac you would be wanting to get.
You right CarrotStyks. And I didn't buy one. I build my own pc. with the following specs:
Coolmaster 5 pro mid tower
Intel core i7-7800X Hexa 6-Core 3.5Ghz Turbo boost 4.0Ghz
256GB PCi Flash SSD (M2 Drive)
Msi Nvidia geforce gtx 1050 Ti 4GB
16GB 2400MHZ DDR4 ram
4k display from philips
All for 1550euro, where the iMac is at 1935euro and the iMac have low specs also
CarrotStyks your forgetting the price of a 5k monitor mate
Just bought a 2017 27" base model imac for $1100 on my local Facebook market place. Bought 32GB of RAM from OWC, going to buy a i7 7700K and a 1TB SSD to replace the HDD partition of the fusion drive. OWC RAM ($280)+ i7 ($300)+ 1TB SSD ($280) = $860 which puts me right at $2,000 for a MONSTER of an iMac and saves me just over $3,000 had I bought all of this brand new from Apple. Being that I work on Photo Shop, Final Cut, Davinci Resolve, and Lightroom and I have an eGPU, it's a great damn buy. I definitely recommend anyone who can buy the 2017 base model of the iMac 27" to do so and upgrade it.
Definitely max out your GPU to the RX580, it really helps.
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Do you mind telling me you got that beautiful keyboard?
www.amazon.com/Matias-Wireless-Aluminum-Keyboard-Space/dp/B0195OR3BA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1499225336&sr=8-2&keywords=Matias+Wireless+Aluminum+Keyboard&linkCode=sl1&tag=youtube-bnjm-20&linkId=15ce18aec010dfff84a0b4b7aef3c13b
So would you recommend this model for basic video editing , using go pro and dji mavic pro , and also for some home recording of music .? keeping all my material on a external hard drive .
I was also thinking of getting the 512 ssd storage , this seems to be the way things are going.
If you're for basic video editing, It's a good machine. But if you're into advanced editing, you will need to look at options like Ryzen running 8 cores.
For better overall experience you will still need more cores if you're going to render videos which will need more cores to utilised at the same time.
Mac is slower I work with them and have a PC at home where I do my real work.
I'm about to buy this iMac with these specifications for motion graphics like After Effects and start learning C4D. Can you tell me if it's enough?
Retina 5K Display - 3.8GHz Processor
3.8GHz quad-core 7th-generation Intel Core i5 processor
Turbo Boost up to 4.2GHz
8GB 2400MHz memory, configurable up to 64GB
2TB Fusion Drive1
Radeon Pro 580 with 8GB video memory
Two Thunderbolt 3 ports
Retina 5K 5120-by-2880 P3 display
I will upgrade to 32 GB of RAM later.
Men buy an i7 ur mac will be thankful to you
why do you need a 5k display?
Love your work....ask for MOAR money kid!
is that Black Keyboard from Apple ? if not wich model is that ?
what's brand/Name ?
BFMIX yes it is an Apple keyboard with a ColorWare paint job I believe
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Wait...? You can connect external GPU for gaming? Does that mean I can use something like a Razor core with GTX1080 via thunderbolt and install windows via bootcamp for serious gaming?!!??!
Jon Irenicus Yes, you can. BizonBox is also a cool option. With Windows installed it works like regular windows PC.
Very useful!
I was able to trade up my _27-inch i7 2012_ problematic piece of junk that kept shutting down to the _27-inch Retina 5K i7_ that was gifted to me. The difference is extraordinary. It is vastly superior.
Si mon wait how
Great review and tips. One thing: I got the 2017 iMac 27" with Final Cut software; however, I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) that I'd like to use it on, too. The iMac has it; the MacBook Pro doesn't. How can I resolve that?
chateau7 login to the iMac using your account to link the FC then check on your purchased tab on your macbook to download it. Try refreshing the page if it doesn't show. If this doesn't work, call Apple support and they will link it to your account for you.
As above. Use the same Apple ID for your accounts and search FC in the App Store. It will read "install" instead of the price.
Would have been nice to get some pricing on the external GPU options and some performance comparisons. Personally I don't care about the bezel and the "chin" and see no reason to waste my $$ not to have them, especially when we are considering value for money. Oh, and could you please give your slide a break? Too much sliding, already! LOL.
You seriously need to get your priorities straight if bezels are a talking point for you.
Imac far ahead better than macbook pro. Worth every cent. Excellent panel good spec👍👍
As someone who will purchase this 2017 5K 27” unit, i am not enthusiastic by what some consider the high points. The i5 is very dated and graphics that drive it is years out from PC. The monitor and access to memory is great but keyboard is the scissors crap coming out MacBook Pro which can only be replaced by purchasing the new three version. Charging the mouse means turning it upside down and being able to use it. The hard drive is another joke like the intel hybrid hard disk SSD. Major surgery to upgrade this in unit. And the ports are good but another strange Apple idea. Say goodbye to my MacBook that is going in as trade on this unit, minimum except i7 processor.
Don't overdo the pans and tilts. I was unable to see the iMac in total piece not even for a single time
yet you still lived another day
Thank You
Indeed, remove the remove the bezels. Add a TouchID sensor. Replace the function key row with a touch strip to the keyboard (and keep the price the same) - and I'll upgrade from My 2010 17" MBP to an iMac: way I'm paying over €3.000 for a new MacBook Pro (the top-tier model MacBook Pro costs €5.000,- here in Europe. That's about $5.600!!! No wonder one buys it).
Well sounds like the exchange rate when to shit, top tier macbook pro is like £3.5k in the UK I believe, I mean why you'd pay that for a laptop and not just settle for a iMac for editing I have no idea :P
Can I ram 4 x 32gb RAM into each slot..?????
Keg nope. Maximum is 4x 16gb
When the iMac pro comes it in December that one can be 32✖️4
The focus (and reuse of video on) external GPUs is simply irrelevant, or at least wishful thinking at this point. Also, the mid-level 27" iMac is a better deal, with a better video card and 3Tb Fusion Drive option not available for the entry level machine. And you *do* want a bigger Fusion Drive, 2TB or 3Tb, because those come with 128Gb SSD while the stock 1Tb Fusion Drive only comes with 32Gb SSD. And if you're putting lots of RAM into the machine Apple RECOMMENDS that iMacs with 32+ GB of RAM be configured with at least a 2 TB Fusion Drive. (For more on that see tidbits DOT com/article/17383)
4 cores...that's so 2016. It's all about 12 and 16 core MegaGigaRipper processors
Deja Vu anyone?
You sound like fogal from Super Bad
I'm trying to decide in buying a Macbook Pro or a iMac..someone said the imac will get a design change next year but need a computer now tho and budget is tight, what should I get?
get the MacBook Pro fam the iMac going to get the bezels remove next year
New mac will also be like 5 grand
M name a Jeff
USB ports.. on the... backside... 😒
Give me a 25 inch iMac with the 4k screen which has the same bezels as an iPhone X
Wait till 2018,price drop,then is bang for buck.
Ng Tai Wei Apple doesn’t ever drop or lower prices.
is this
Retina 5K Display
3.4GHz Processor
1TB Storage or
Retina 5K Display
3.5GHz Processor
1TB Storage?
kristine moreno Watch the video. He clearly tells you the specs on it.
Either this is a re-upload or a copyrat video
matican
what ? I mad have only 3 memory slots?
You should get 4 slots, Unless you might have extra slot occupied by another memory.
Buys a All-in-one for aesthetic reasons
Plug a swarm of devices to boost or upgrade what the said all-in-one lacks.
iLogic
want something to look at and admire , then buy Mac, want a workhorse , then buy a PC, personally I cant give a shit what it looks like as long as it has horsepower under the hood.. sadly lacking in Mac . 3 HD drives? ummm no. SSD? umm no..Crossfire Umm no, 2 gpus? umm .. no... ummm bag of shite !
after watching 2 min, just dislike bcos Thunderbolt drive ads
I think the design is "Timeless" not dated. Who cares if there is a bit of bezel around the screen!!! My new 2017 27" iMac sits nicely next to my 2010 27" iMac. Both i7 chipsets, of course the 2017 is a much better computer.
These bezels are ridicoluous
DarkCloud360 even with these bezels the iMac looks way COOLER than LG 5k display.
DarkCloud360 it's aluminum, better than plastic from lg, although the bezel look is dated already, they have to have room to put everything in there.
Yeah the bezels are a bummer, but as Darryl says, you need room for the components and heat dissipation (I reckon heat is/was the main issue). Still, it's 2017 and three years on, so if they wanted to ditch the bezels I think they could've found a way to make it work with today's components. Although on the forums, people have been saying the i7 heats up quite a bit and gets the fan revved up high.
This is a computer, not a phone. Those "bezels" are great for creatives and professionals who work with images, video or graphics design so they can see the files against a black background. Professional monitors even have black frames built in for that reason.
Why are bezels an issue on a computer? We care on a phone because the overall size of a phone matters, so the less border that isn’t screen, makes for a smaller easier to handle phone. If the bezels were smaller on the iMac, or any computer monitor, what does that accomplish actually? Yeah, it would look cooler, but isn’t a functional thing like it is on a phone. I’m sure they will shrink the bezels eventually though since that’s what people perceive as being better.
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Ohh you know I'll just buy a separate $500 GPU and a $300-$400 case for the damn thing. Just so I can get kicked in the balls when I plug it into a T3 port. And get half the half the performance.
Ya so worth the money for me to buy. AIO computer, in which I'm forcing myself to buy other shit. Just to make it on par with say a custom built $1200 windows PC.
I get it that your saying this is the best that Apple has to offer for there macs. But it's still feasible for someone with a regular job and salary.
Sorry but not sorry. Apples computers are just not worth the money that your forking over.
The Realist Then the computer is not for you. If you feel like you'll have a "better" experience with a windows computer then go get one.
But there are people out there that really like the Mac experience, and that values their user experience combined with the nicer design higher then a GTX 1080 Ti, that they'll never truly take advantage of.
And that also prefers to get the "real deal" instead of trying to build a Hackintosh and constantly be worried every time a mac update comes out.
For those people, this imac is a really good deal.
5K monitor included in that $1200?
Néona
"higher than a GTX 1080 ti" wtf are you talking about here.
Besides that ya the experience is all Apple has going for it. If maybe they had premium current hardware will be the king of the class.
But seeing as windows does while Apple neuters there current gen products. Still with age old hardware, that isn't up to date at all.
And I never said I wanted a hackintosh. There absolute shit due to software and driver issues. If you seriously want to go the hacking Tosh and waste all that time and effort. Then you shouldn't have a problem paying out of your ass if you're willing to pay that anyways just to have a crappy experience with Apple software.
Danuka100
Ya 5k displays are nice an all.
But let me ask you this. One do you even have the required Wi-Fi speeds to take it manage of watching 5Kcontent??? no you don't.
And since you're not going to be watching 5K content the display will scale it down running the pictures at a lower qualities. So your paying more for a display that you will only use to look at your wallpaper.
That's why it's not worth it to get a high-end monitor because you're never going to use that 5K 4K quality. Not today anyways
Two things. The iMac has gigE, so the wifi issue really is nonexistent. Content would be a better point, there is hardly any and that's counting preview videos. As for usefulness of 5k res. Apple sells a lot of machines to creatives and for them it's actually very handy to have a screen res 4k+ because it offers the opportunity to edit 4k video with room to spare or 1080p with loads of extra screen real estate left. Same goes for larger photos and other artistic projects. I'm not iMac apologist, but you should argue a bit better.
DO NOT BUY THESE!
They have VERY poor image retention - the screens degrade over time and the retention becomes unbearable. Burn in occurs after 2 minutes and lasts for 10+
Maybe you got a lemon. Mine has never had that issue.
+David Z -- if you can't provide empirical evidence to support your claim - shut the hell up.
wat
you do realize burn ins are issues are on LED display? these are not
This is stupid. The iMac is one of the worst values for a computer. Build your own. Or buy a PC. Everything is going to be cheaper and better. This is a completely biased, bullshit reveiw.
CarrotStyks build a computer of similar specs with a monitor that is as good as this and see what it costs ya...
The mid-2017 iMac has almost the perfect price.The only thing that is pretty overpriced is the ram.
JosephandElissa Flores agree.
Still cheaper than a Mac.. dont know what experience you have , but "You know nada" to say this.
+Troy Lewis I guess you actually forget some things.What about the speakers, the keyboard, the mouse, the build quality and the (crappy) webcam.I don't think that you can get a PC that is a lot cheaper than the iMac...