Rising S Bunker Bad Quality Exposed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2023
- Ron visits a brand new Rising S shelter and discovers the poor craftsmanship and finds that the material used was not as advertised.
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How in the world is Rising S still in business? I guess there are enough people out there who just refuse to do the research. That's on them...
LMAO...How did Biden become president???? YES THERE ARE THAT MANY STU...PID PEOPLE OUT THERE!!!!
@@loveamerica2828 If you think Biden was elected legitimately into office through votes, I guess we can add one more to the stupid list.
In my opinion, they build things very cheaply, and the money they save , they spend on advertising. I have noticed that when I do a search for Atlas, it shows up as rising S. I know you can pay for services that put you in front of everybody else even if they search for somebody else you end up being on top and I believe that is what they’re doing, they are trying to get to the customer before atlas does because once they see an Atlas survival shelter, and do their research there’s no way they would buy a Rising S in my opinion.
They probably know way too many people in high places otherwise I don't think they could have stayed in business for so long.
They advertise over the atlas name. Google my name. You'll see
Might as well have bought a shipping container and saved a bunch of money!!!!!
Just weld 2 end to end, it would be the same quality............
With some supports on the exterior, the shipping container is probably better, and a few hundred thousand dollars cheaper.
I actually thought it was a shipping container when he first walked up to it!
The shipping container would actually be higher quality than the rising S, (S is for Shit). The Rising Shit Bunker.
@@Allanhorns Actually the S stands for soul because it's rising soul bunkers as in if you stay in one that's about what's going to happen to you...........
I'm not a professional welder... But I do know how to weld... If that was my work, I would be embarrassed...
Glad he can call out rising shit again, btw can you see my comment?
I have been welding for around 12 years and that shit won't fly in a non code shop you would be fired in a code shop for that crap
Looked like they didnt hand out masks to the workers that day and told them to engage their safety squints, and they used old hangers for welding rods.
@@AbleistSLI’m unable to see your comment
Each time I drive down the 5 frwy I wave at the old shop.
So glad you are doing well and are not having to deal with SoCal anymore.
Good job Ron exposing this crap. God bless you and your crew.
Thanks for letting me tour today. I understand how ticked you are about how Rising S is taking advantage of people. Still driving home right now but I think I will stop by again when I am ready to order. Hopefully it is a happier day.
Ok 👍🏼
The Atlas shelter is superior in every way. Quite a difference between an engineered product versus something just thrown together. Great video.
What happens if someone finds your ventilation output to your bunker? Always curious
@@ugabuga1361 than your fked
@@ugabuga1361 well they would see it with their eyes a guess, but seriously now, Are you suggesting you would attack the bunker ? how would you ?
@@ugabuga1361 because my answer would be: it would be the last thing you see as a piece of hot lead approaches you at 1000 feet/second. The End.
@@Shane_O.5158 😅😮
That thing's a sad sight for sore eyes to be sure. Your stuff just keeps getting better and better. Constantly making improvements to the design of your product and your fabrication facility.keep up the great work💯🤙👍
You should buy that rising s bunker, actually bury it as deep as you bury yours, and see if it survives without getting crushed.
Oh it would probably crush with a Abrams tank. I'll test a copy if I can make a shelter this bad
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters it would actually make good sense from a marketing standpoint…. When you have visitors to your factory, not only can they tour your bunker, but you can fully disclose what they would be getting with a RS bunker… 🧐🧐🧐
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters I don't think you know how to make one that bad lol.
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters you should have someone undercover buy a rising s bunker then get some unknown area then test it then exploit every detail wrong , wait a few months or years then pull it back out of the ground the assess the damages done.
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters you couldn't make one this bad if you tried, your brain doesn't work that way. Lol
Hello Ron. This is Ted from San Antonio Texas. I must say I believe the you build a superior quality shelter. You do not cut corners and you told the truth and you show everything you do. There's nothing have you done any updates on the firebombing of your office? Have they caught anyone? Please be careful my friend. I'm sure there are people out there that don't like that you are exposing all this crap out there. Stay safe and always carry your gun man
Thanks. I think we all know it was probably a competitor
That is just crazy man. Even before you said they said it was made of 1/4" I could tell from a distance it was 1/8". I just barely finished getting my welding certifications and I hate seeing work like that. I wish you weren't 236 miles away because I'd love to come apply for you and build quality products.
If I win the lottery I definitely be getting a million-dollar bunker, 5 big Boys, two mudroom for both my Secret entrance areas, a gun room, utility room, two big boys for storage with sliding shelving about 8 to 10 ft underground encased in concrete, with a pole barn put on top of that.
If I wIn ThE lOtTeRy
Hey it could happen.
Geeze!!!!! Those guys are crooks!!! If I had the land and the money Atlas would be the only company I would use!!!! I can only dream!!! I'm disabled and live on 914 a month so I'll never be able to have one. I still prep as much as possible I have some freeze dried food and a couple of home defense tools. That will have to do. You do an amazing job!!! If I ever hit the powerball I'll call.
What state are you in, because 914$ goes along way in west Virginia and Alabama, Arkansas...
Thank you so much for this video. It was an eye opener and very educational. I wouldn’t waste my time looking inside this death trap after seeing the outside not constructed properly. When I’m ready I’ll definitely be going with Atlas.
Thank you again. I hope Rising bunkers gets it together for the better or exits the industry.
We all hope they get it together. Go back and fix all the shelters they sold and or stop doing it the way they are doing it
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters did you find out who your arsonist is yet
Hard to believe they haven't been sued out of resistance!!! If that was delivered to me I would be hunting somebody!!!!
I bet if you were to do a check you'd find probably several pending lawsuits including ours against them
With all the reality TV shows out there, I’d love to see Atlas and RS go head to head in a reality show. I’m pretty sure RS wouldn’t be up for something like that…. It would expose them! 😂🤣
Dang, Ron this is sad. Now, let’s see the inside. I’m sure it’s even worse. Atlas all the way!
Oh you'll see it after we change the air system out for a Swiss one
Just got off the phone with atlas. Very helpful info. Thank u.
Good to hear you can talk about them again, by some legal miracle. This is like the difference between an American security gun safe and a box store safe that looks like a safe but really ain't. Suggest to bury the knock off shelter in concrete.
I'm 100% satisfied I went through Atlas. No leaks, no issues whatsoever. I hope more people get informed an stop going through S company
Wow the quality difference is huge!
Quality ? One has it all one has none !
Your stuff is on another level
I couldn't help but notice the dimpling on the RS 'bunker'. Bad enough the steel tubing and frame is bent and shoddy, but it actually seems like the siding was more like light sheet metal that would have problems stopping a good breeze.
A good breeze. Lol. That's a new one
Thanks, Ron 😁
Wow I would not trust Rising S with my or my family’s safety in a time of crisis.
But the biggest problem with all this bunkers is that the ribs is outside the plates.
With big pressure ( from an event :) from outside, the first thing that is going to happend is that the plates will loosening from the ribs ( and your space inside will be smaller :).
A bunker with ribs innside the plates and where you are going to live, will be mush more strong/secure.
You are right to warn people about the bad quality. If I had the money I would definitely get one of your bunkers if you did them in Ireland.
He build them all over the world. He does quite a few jobs in Europe all together. So, he would be able to make one in Ireland.
You could buy one of his DIY kits and find a local ICF builder.
Insulated concrete forms are becoming more common and they have roofs capable of holding up to 70 tons so you could bury it or put it under your patio, garage or driveway.
To my mind, it is more practical to build a bunker into a house rather than completely separate.
My husband is a very professional talented welder. he believes in doing things the right way. Your awesome thanks for all you do.
A good overview on the other guy bunker sir. Take care and be safe. See you on your next video.
Ron, do this.. BOTH OF THESE!
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You're an Honest man Ron. I can see your passion about delivering a solid product. It is very clear in the video and from other videos you have done in the past that these "Competitors" are not even in the same ballpark as your bunkers. Heck My nephews treehouse/fort is built stronger then these crap bunker's. if i paid $160,000K and got that delivered i would be Furious. As they say "You pay for what you get" But in this case you actually dont. 160K is alot of money and this just looks like a rip off. How are people like this getting away with selling such dodge products. You would think they would have law suits out the ass by now for ripping people off.
At this point I feel anyone who is looking for such unique items such as a Bunker would have heard of your company Atlas in their research. Im not saying you are the only good bunker builder out there but you are no doubt one of the best. The fact people in the market for a bunker ignore all your videos on showing your bunker vs the "Competitors" and ignore all the signs that these competitors are not what they say they are i kinda no longer feel bad for some of them getting screwed over all because the wanted to save a buck.
Anywho. I hope some day i can purchase one of your bunkers. Currently saving up for my dream house.
We are replacing that bunker with an atlas for zero it looks like. She will sue for the money As of today they won't show her any pity or concideration to refund her
Can you do a video on overpressure and how the overpressure blast valve works? Where is the blast valve placed in the bunker? Do you put a blast valve at the air intake of the NBC filteration system?
Just go back a dozen videos, Ron covers it in most of the reviews
Whoever bought that bunker should be taking Rising S Bunkers to court to get their money back a hopefully get them shut down
They will try
In the pictures of the stocked Rising S bunker, the ceiling has mega condensation build up. What does Atlas do to prevent condensation like that from occuring?
Just wondering if you could add a septic system in a bunker that is just like the one in a house>?
Yes it's outside though
Thanks for the videos!
Sometimes you don't need to say anything. I don't go around checking my competitors work, because I'm focused on myself.
We only film when we are called out and this is a public service announcement almost
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters sure...
So many booger welds. If I ever win the lotto I'm having you guys build my bunker.
Ron, I'm another vote towards you purchasing this contraption and setting up a side/side comparison at your factory.
Okay, so the quality control guy was off that day, and the welder phoned in sick, and the buyer couldn't get the right steel, and the warehouse guy may have knocked it into something once or twice whilst loading, but apart from that it'll do, right?? Best ever advert for Atlas.
Now lets see the inside!
I wish i could get one of these out to my property! Altas shelters are amazing
Is it supposed to be encased in conrete? Whats up with all the rebar?
More info on the modular housing someday?
Just curious. Do you smoke test/pressure test your pieces in the factory before sending them out or are your welders just that good?
When it comes to pressure vessels, no one is good enough to not be second guessed
Omg I feel so bad for that guy 😢
We all do and all the other customers too
I feel bad for all that are going for bunkers...
There is no way you could open that escape hatch with all the bent things steel around it.
Does the S stand for Sh*t? It sure looks that way. Thanks, Ron this was eye-opening!
It don't stand for superior ! Sh#t is more like it
HI Rising S, I would like to order casket what colors do you have? 💀🤣🤣
Any colours you want as long as it’s black, can I interest you in the self cremation feature, a slight extra charge for the propane bottles that will install inside your bomb shelter.
Auto type error while writing this comment “bum shelter” wonder if TH-cam is using ChatGPT to predict the correct words. If so we would know what ChatGPT AI Classified this shelter as.
@@YellowRambler 🤣
I am watching this video from Japan.
As ICBMs from the Chinese Communist Party and IRBM attacks from North Korea using tactical nuclear warheads are becoming a reality, there is a debate in Japan whether a BUNKER should be built at home.
Due to the very high spring water and soft ground, the construction of BUNKERs in Japan is extremely expensive and often shallow from the ground.
There are Japanese air-raid shelter contractors in Japan, and this video is very useful to check if they are of a proper technical standard.
I appreciate that you have made this video available.
Why is the framing on the outside? All the pressure is going in so the welds have to hold the pressure rather than it pushing against the beams?
Wow, so sad. This is why I'm saving up to get one of the Atlas bunkers.
I wonder how many customers have sued rising s, but we won’t hear about because they settled and signed a non-disclosure agreement?
Probably alot We will find out one day
Good old rising damp under delivering again... please tell me it does not have gas / butane inside.
I like this guy seems very genuine and professional, if I ever get the money to build a bunker I'll be calling him up.
Definitely higher quality bunkers at Atlas! No question!
what about atmospheric electric induction heat and solar flares ? Flooding ?
I don't know how anyone could buy that other guy's JUNK.... SCARY... .
keep up the greatness
And the C channel upside down that becomes reservoirs for water retention! Maybe the gaps are for water drainage 🤣😂!
That cheap one was definitely moved around on site with something other than a crane which for sure led to some of the damage and dents. You can see where the dirt is packed into the sides from being pushed and dragged around with the bucket of a piece of equipment. That still doesn’t excuse the poor quality. Where was it made? China?
No. Sadly in Murchison Texas
Ron, why do you NEVER show video's of your older bunker installs? I want to see how your bunkers survive the years with no water damage. I love your bunkers and keep up the great work.
I have a Rising S bunker. We have LITERALLY spent over $8,000 fixing what Rising S did to our yard and what they left unfixed, or what broke inside the shelter after they dropped it in the ground. The latest fiasco is the cheap plastic air filtration system they installed is BROKEN. While I don't have an Atlas shelter, I've visited their construction site and seen the quality of work, though this does mean I don't know how they stand up over time.
My Rising S shelter has rust inside from the water leaks flooding in at least 3 different times, which I fixed every time. We had to get a lawyer to threaten them to fix just ONE of the problems they caused or left unfixed.
One question how long dose it take for you guys to install a bunker
From just the welding seams and the traces of welding, it can be stated that the quality of the S bunker is worse than inferior. insufficient material strength. I'm pretty sure the structure can't withstand the pressure of the soil. But I notice that the welding method of the Atlas bunker creates great holes for water to penetrate and corrode the structure. You see, the paint does not protect the gaps where the paint does not penetrate.
Wow that welding is terrible, the first time i welded with a old mig welder that was not feeding right looked like that lol. The whole construction of that bunker looks shady as hell.
Glad your exposing these crappy company.
I didn't know they sold a weathered model. It looks like it's already been through the apocalypse.
It's interesting. Atlas has just a short blurb in there About section. Rising S goes right into a defensive talking about false information from their competitor. You would think as a buyer you would check out both.
Rising S is a Pathic liar Pure Evil 👿
what's with the rebar lengths welded to the shelter?
I wish I had the money for a bunker. Even if I had the 160K for that one, I think I would pass on it.
Keep building the quality ones.
13 steps down to the bottom, Did you know they used to put 13 steps leading up to the Gallows, Same thing here but A slower death
That's weird
If I ever hit the lotto will be calling you up for your best BUNKER how long does it take time wise start to finish to get one installed
Just yesterday I started looking into bunkers. 1ST one I saw was Raising s company. Then I saw urs. JUST looking at the 3 inch tube vs the I beams. HANDS DOWN urs is built better. Hands down I will b getting one from u when I get my own property. ILL even do a video on my channel about it. From start to finish. "Building installing and living in it for a month.
Ok thanks. Yes it's no comparison but same price it looks like. Crooks
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters yea u nailed it with the crooks. So I have been looking at the California minus the 2 units of the sleeping quarters and the garage. What's the time frame for building that? Also do u allow a walk around as well? And is ur number current on ur website?
A couple of shipping containers would make a better bunker. Run them out of business, Ron!
They will run themselves out of business
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters The sooner, the better.
This is all well and good but what is your price in comparison to theirs?
Same price. Fir same size. It's just atlas offers options
I've been welding since 1986, Your Bunker's are built very heavy duty, very nice welding by the way, Million Dollars I don't have 🤑🙈💰💰
Thought you might like to know, g search in Canada for your company name does not return the counterfeit shelter over your name.
I can't weld, but even I would be embarrassed to make so crappy welds!
It could have been worse, though...
It could have been a 40' shipping container. Of course, they don't cost that much, and if you're careful to put supports on the inside you could probably encase on of those in concrete and get a just as good result...
Texas built, Texas tuff.. nuff said!
13 steps to the gallows same as Rising S bunkers 😮
Interesting
There's also no vertical corner posts and the corner braces aren't even tied into each other.
Yes the whole bunker would probably cave in in spots if a tank drove over it at 3' under ground
Yep, it’s an open ended square tube, it’ll skew sideways under load (it it wasn’t buried in concrete)
Hi Ron.
It's actually ³/¹⁶ thick, but good try with moving tape around to make it hard to see
At first glance even you can tell Atlas is a far superior product🙏 keep up the outstanding work boys 👍
Wow. I'm really glad you made this video and that by a stroke of luck, it was in my recommendation feed... Seeing this was more than a stroke of luck, I believe. Seeing this was more like divine intervention since my wife and I have been talking about underground bunkers. I would _never_ even consider looking at a Rising S Bunker. Seven feet height is just completely puny. With everything you would need to store, seven feet would just make me feel extremely claustrophobic. People who go with Rising S are just throwing away their hard-earned money. This should be a massive lawsuit. All money should be returned involved in the making of these Rising S Bunkers, as well as entirely returning any and all other fees involved, such as digging the holes, even if the holes are dug by other companies. These need to be taken out of the ground everywhere in which they were installed and taken back by Rising S. Those who purchased these cheap bunkers from this company that lied to them should have the freedom to have them entirely replaced with Atlas Shelters and/or another company that is on the level of Atlas. I don't know much about these shelters, but I can't imagine that there are many other companies in existence that are of such a high grade as Atlas. I'm really glad that I found this so that in the possible near future, my wife and I will know what to look for and who to look for first and foremost, Atlas.... We will definitely not be wasting any time looking at Rising S.
Thank you for making this video and doing a wonderful job showing the differences in quality. I really feel sorry for anyone who purchased anything Rising S. What a shame.
Sir if you want to
Make a difference. Post this feeling on their google reviews. Other people need to know
Think people are looking at the difference, because there is a price difference. But you get what you paid for.
We are the same price on that size as shown
Would a round convert cost? We know the prices change but why are your prices not online? Looks like you could afford to hire someone to update your website every two weeks. We don't know your prices, so people think they're way over their budget.
I can't believe even "top" TH-camrs fall for this abysmal quality.
To be fair, that pewpew guy doesn’t understand much outside his lane
I bet you pre pressure test, before it leaves shop, like they do with big planes?
You right jhon, your bunker is the best deal in USA
To be honest: if there are bend up structures only in the ends, it doesent effect that much., only in the hatch it does. it may be indicator of the week material, but bad lifting may cause some of the effects that wouldnt otherwise be there.
The point is they advertise 1/4" plate and sent 1/8". Now they removed 1/4" from their website and removed the warranty on quality
You guys should start Line X all your outside in ground stuff
The Blind Welders Union will be mad at you! :)
One would be just as good using shipping containers with some reinforcement as that Rising S Bunker. In fact you would be safer in a shipping container.
If I had the money to buy a shelter, Atlas, hands down!
The amount of spatter around the welds makes me believe it was welded with harbor freight’s best flux welder and the operator completed his 15 minute welding training
Yeah i was just mentioning that in a post, they are hiring from a temp agency and the workers have no idea what they are doing, prob hand them a tape measure, blueprint and a welder and tell them to get on it. I bet they dont even allow breaks or lunches
@@patfenis897 it looks like an attempt at a cheap copy, kinda like Chinese atv’s, they look good until you dig into them
Wow -- if I ever buy a fallout shelter, I hope it will not be by Rising S due to their lower quality product.
Thanks for posting this info. 👍
I remember when yall whete off the 5 freeway in cali. No more work there?
Absolutely disgusting, how are these charlatans still in business? Whoever paid for this needs to sue simply based on the false grade of steel advertised.
They will they said
Atlas shelters are the best. There's just no competition about it.
Good quality
I wonder how they sleep at night knowing they rip people off and send them to their death.
Did they not have a lawsuit from the one that exploded?
Evil. Pure evil
The fact that they have three crosses in their logo is despicable. They in no way represent the work ethic of Christians, we work hard in our day jobs to glorify God, and they seemingly do the exact opposite.
Thank you. I feel the same way but can't say it
Same as Biden pretends he’s a Catholic, whilst promoting the medical unaliving of babies and men in dresses 😐