My friend used to have a Guile/Dovescape combo deck that was obnoxious. Dovescape auto-counters non-creature spells and that player gets 1/1 Bird tokens equal to the mana cost. That combo, Guile/Dovescape, lets you loop infinitely until you want to end the effect or at least that how it was.
I actually had a deck like this back in highschool. I called it "No" and it was all just counter spells, board wipes, and removals. I had *one* creature in the deck. Mist Raven. Now this wasn't commander, so it was easier to do. But still.
Personnaly I would have added Controvert. 2UU counterspell that has recover 2UU, whenever a creature is put into your yard you can pay 2UU to put Controvert back in your hand. There is also daze, gush and ensnare, blue spells that have an alternate cost of returning an island (2 for ensnare) to your hand, works well with mystic sanctuary, which also works well with coral atoll. Btw, mystic sanctuary is an island so if you splurge on fetchies you can get it whenever you want.
Could also use a Whirlwind denial and/or Supreme will, first is for when you got a huge pile of triggers so that you can just nope everything and second one has a second mode for draw. As for creature, not sure about Octavia as it's more a counter deck than a spellsling one but Docent of perfection would be a great addition. Murmuring mystic but better.
@@miguelmacias1322 In MTG parlance a number is equal to the amount of generic mana (the number with the grey circle on the card) while WUBRG are used to indicate the different coloured "pips" on magic cards. So 2UU means you need 2 generic mana (mana of any colour) and 2 mana that must be blue. U is used for blue because B is already used for black.
@@Intangible360 Oh, my bad, guess I didn't pay enough attention for Supreme will. Octavia comes from a quite similar Talrand duel commander deck I recently built. It's basically the same idea, loads of counterspells and many cantrips, and in this deck Octavia is huge since it makes all those tokens 8/8. However I don't think it would be as interesting as you can't guarantee access to those tokens. It's just that since those were such similar builds it's one of the first cards I thought of. Plus most of the cards I mentionned are pretty budget.
This deck doesn’t throw a wrench into your opponents plans. It throws the whole toolbox. Thus, i give the deck the nickname “FOD.deck” (foreign object damage)
It's pretty hard to win with this deck (from experience) because you will eventually start running out of cards in hand. Luckily, there's a lot of slightly more expensive cards that let me refill my hand.
@@epazote4204 Teferi's Ageless Insight and Magic Mirror are good draw spells for Baral imo. There's no true way to build Baral. Just stick a billion counter spells into the deck.
I used to run a version of this that polymorphed out 1 of 4 annoying ass creatures, such as, old Jin Gitaxias, Guile, Blightsteel Colossus, and Perplexing Chimera. On god? Best deck I ever won multiple cEDH tournaments with. Genuinely fun, and super obnoxious, but not so ridiculous that my opponents would scoop on the spot.
I went against a Baral deck last night. I hated it and everyone conceded once he was able to stop everyone from playing the game. 😑 I stopped the wizard that taps itself and other wizards to counter spells by turning it into an elk but he managed to remove it and took over the game by overloading a cyclonic rift.
These deck costs do not include basic lands and the commander. Also, there really isn't a large stock of HP cards that are needed to hit this low cost.
this is a very interesting deck. giving me ideas to build something similar to pull out when people come to pupstomp a table Update So i built it from cards in my collection, throwing in the naru meha combo and it felt a lil slow.changed it to be rashmi and holy hell this deck is annoyingly potent
Hey Mitch, Mitch here 👋🏼 I’ve considered adding Guile but is that really worth not getting to use your commanders ability. Guile is not a “you may” so you won’t get a choice on exiling instead of countering. Still an awesome card and I love the list.
The worst counter combo I ever pulled off was using lullmage mentor copied 7 times to counter infinitely, plus you get the most degusting horde possible.
@@lorenzotanzi9851 I mean any removal would work. In blue, you've got Pongify, Rabid Hybridization, Reality Shift, Ravenform, Frogify, Imprisoned in the Moon, etc etc etc.
@@PlasmaTheBlue of course I have those as well, but there are some creatures with both uncounterability and protection from blue. And my friend actually had one in his deck. His face when in my baral deck I pulled out an Introduction to Annihilation still gets me smirking whenever I think about it.
I have a question for the Patreon, do we have to be subbed to the tier for the whole year to get the annual specific rewards? Edit: I'd love to have custom commander themed episode, especially a favorite among community made cards.
I hate this deck immediately. Good job. I do think it will be tricky to win since everyone will be trying to murder you. Guile is a good one tho, who knows?
@@jamarclayton4155 basically, flash it in on an opponents end step to instantly nuke their hands, and by the time it's your turn again, none of your opponents have hands, and you draw 7 cards at the end of your turn.
@@robloxplayer0003 thanks for responding! I may have the wrong Jin card! It doesn’t have flash. It says “Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant.” Is that the same card?
@@robloxplayer0003 I think I found which card you’re talking about. Also when I flash on an opponents “end turn” does it matter when? Should I do it on the 1st opponent who plays after me or wait till the player we plays before me? I really appreciate your help
@jamarclayton4155 well, since with flash you don't cast it on their end step, you cast it when they declare the end of their second main phase in order for the end step trigger to occur. Also, do it on the 1st player after you, who won't be able to respond except with a counterspell, which will, if it survives, mean when it is your turn, no opponents will have a hand and you basically win.
Yeah, the table just needs to squash this deck before it gets to the point its efficient. Warping the game just because you can (it's not mass land destruction!) isn't any better. Except with MLD that can actually lead to a game being over shortly. Telling everyone your deck costs $20 and relying on pity to then proceed to annoy the table for an hour or two is pretty bad etiquette. A cheap deck to annoy your friends sure 10/10, originality or actual playability 0/10.
Lol I highly recommend whoever wants to play this deck pay more than $13! U will have a miserable time trying to control 3 other players and u are more likely to get harassed out the game lol!
Anyone else getting tired of the "loose your friends" videos. Like mitch I get showing off how cheap you can build a EDH deck, and the title probably gets more attention. but all you did was build a Counterspell.dek. That's how everyone builds this commander.
Biggest suggestion for this channel, dont start with the mana ramp, please put it at the the end , it belongs to the "land section" of the video, it always steals the lifetime of people who at least have some clue about this game! ^^
My friend used to have a Guile/Dovescape combo deck that was obnoxious. Dovescape auto-counters non-creature spells and that player gets 1/1 Bird tokens equal to the mana cost. That combo, Guile/Dovescape, lets you loop infinitely until you want to end the effect or at least that how it was.
dang the sonic soldier himself
By any chance do you have a deck list or something close to it :p
Community: Mitch is such a nice person
Mitch: here's a series of budget builds to lose friends with fam
I played Telepathy once - on turn 1. In turn 5, I've been killed since everyone focused on me :( they didn't like the enchantment at all...
This is less ‘how to lose your friends’ and more ‘how to get your ass beat when you leave the lgs’
I actually had a deck like this back in highschool. I called it "No" and it was all just counter spells, board wipes, and removals. I had *one* creature in the deck. Mist Raven. Now this wasn't commander, so it was easier to do. But still.
As soon as you announced the commander the video title made complete sense...
After repeatedly losing to Kaalia no matter what deck I use… I’m stealing this.
This is the second video of that format I've seen so far, and I already love it!
Personnaly I would have added Controvert. 2UU counterspell that has recover 2UU, whenever a creature is put into your yard you can pay 2UU to put Controvert back in your hand. There is also daze, gush and ensnare, blue spells that have an alternate cost of returning an island (2 for ensnare) to your hand, works well with mystic sanctuary, which also works well with coral atoll. Btw, mystic sanctuary is an island so if you splurge on fetchies you can get it whenever you want.
Could also use a Whirlwind denial and/or Supreme will, first is for when you got a huge pile of triggers so that you can just nope everything and second one has a second mode for draw.
As for creature, not sure about Octavia as it's more a counter deck than a spellsling one but Docent of perfection would be a great addition. Murmuring mystic but better.
@@alilhard Supreme Will is covered in the video, Octavia is not, so I'm not sure where these comments are coming from?
What does the UU stand for?
@@miguelmacias1322 In MTG parlance a number is equal to the amount of generic mana (the number with the grey circle on the card) while WUBRG are used to indicate the different coloured "pips" on magic cards. So 2UU means you need 2 generic mana (mana of any colour) and 2 mana that must be blue. U is used for blue because B is already used for black.
@@Intangible360 Oh, my bad, guess I didn't pay enough attention for Supreme will.
Octavia comes from a quite similar Talrand duel commander deck I recently built. It's basically the same idea, loads of counterspells and many cantrips, and in this deck Octavia is huge since it makes all those tokens 8/8. However I don't think it would be as interesting as you can't guarantee access to those tokens.
It's just that since those were such similar builds it's one of the first cards I thought of. Plus most of the cards I mentionned are pretty budget.
Only had to see the commander and already knew whats up. Played enough arena. Scars not healed yet.
This deck doesn’t throw a wrench into your opponents plans. It throws the whole toolbox. Thus, i give the deck the nickname “FOD.deck” (foreign object damage)
Even though the card is a little over a dollar I would highly recommend running Mystic Sanctuary in place of 1 Island.
It's pretty hard to win with this deck (from experience) because you will eventually start running out of cards in hand. Luckily, there's a lot of slightly more expensive cards that let me refill my hand.
do you have a list?
@@epazote4204 Teferi's Ageless Insight and Magic Mirror are good draw spells for Baral imo.
There's no true way to build Baral. Just stick a billion counter spells into the deck.
My build is just counter spells until I hit thought lash and thoracle
@@Ched_TTVthat’s genius 🙌🏾
I used to run a version of this that polymorphed out 1 of 4 annoying ass creatures, such as, old Jin Gitaxias, Guile, Blightsteel Colossus, and Perplexing Chimera. On god? Best deck I ever won multiple cEDH tournaments with. Genuinely fun, and super obnoxious, but not so ridiculous that my opponents would scoop on the spot.
Ominous seas makes for another mana efficient win conditions for the deck since you loot on every counter
I love the look of this deck, im defo gonna build this deck and trying it out
This deck was roaming my LGS at one time. Looting untill a combo is found.
I’m never this early! Good afternoon Mitch and thanks for the great content. I might just have to pick up this deck. 🤔
Could play this with Hinata, Dawn Crowned to add the other colors. Bigger body with taxing but no loot effect.
I went against a Baral deck last night. I hated it and everyone conceded once he was able to stop everyone from playing the game. 😑 I stopped the wizard that taps itself and other wizards to counter spells by turning it into an elk but he managed to remove it and took over the game by overloading a cyclonic rift.
That deck is basically spraying water in your face with a spray bottle while saying 'no'
Has anyone ever had luck with these being close to the price of the video? It's always been double or more even using heavily played.
Do you think adding Elesh Norn Mother of Machines and Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite is a good addition to your daughters upgraded list?
I used to have a Baral CEDH. Yep, losing your friends~
I was thinking of updating my baral deck....thanks!
Can y'all do an episode on cascade decks?
I stumbled over Mystic Redaction while going through cards, nice combo with Baral
I like the concept of "lose your friends" decks, when I saw telepathy I fell in love 😍
The lowest it came out for me was 43$ but still worth it haha. Thanks for the content Mitch love it
These deck costs do not include basic lands and the commander. Also, there really isn't a large stock of HP cards that are needed to hit this low cost.
I like chaos-y decks that just make the game last longer and more interesting.
Someone in our group made that deck years ago... Game took over 3 hours.
Just bought this deck! looking forward to trying it out - i've never gotten to play Commander before, so i'm really excited!
this is a very interesting deck. giving me ideas to build something similar to pull out when people come to pupstomp a table
Update
So i built it from cards in my collection, throwing in the naru meha combo and it felt a lil slow.changed it to be rashmi and holy hell this deck is annoyingly potent
Any suggestions on upgrades?
yea, mono blue counterspells is an easy way to not get invited back to any table, regardless of friendships.
I cant wait to try this deck, looks like so much fun
This decklist would work well with Sen Triplets.
Did I miss something or why is there no counterspell in this deck?
Hey Mitch, Mitch here 👋🏼 I’ve considered adding Guile but is that really worth not getting to use your commanders ability. Guile is not a “you may” so you won’t get a choice on exiling instead of countering. Still an awesome card and I love the list.
The worst counter combo I ever pulled off was using lullmage mentor copied 7 times to counter infinitely, plus you get the most degusting horde possible.
I'll never sleeve decks worth the same price as the sleeves... i like getting ideas from you but these decks are only competitive against precons.
Ahh yes, Telepathy. I love this card as I am the only one who plays it in my playgroup lol
I would switch some mana rocks for more wincons
Heck ya!
How do I have to play this deck? I don't have any friends left from your previous "Lose Your Friends" deck :-D Thanks !
My vexing shusher looks even better now
How many Island?
I just clicked on your deck list at TCG player and this deck costs $102.26, not $13. Not sure where you got that price
I just bought it for 26.31, you have to search the cards individually then add the cheapest with shipping to cart manually
This why I run so much can't be countered tech.
I run colorless removal and counters just for cards that cannot be countered and/or have protection from blue. Yeah I am a bit of a monster.
@@lorenzotanzi9851 Well, luckily can't be countered doesn't care what colors you're running. My Destiny Spinner deck loves playing blue decks.
@@PlasmaTheBlue colorless removal is exactly for those cases
@@lorenzotanzi9851 I mean any removal would work. In blue, you've got Pongify, Rabid Hybridization, Reality Shift, Ravenform, Frogify, Imprisoned in the Moon, etc etc etc.
@@PlasmaTheBlue of course I have those as well, but there are some creatures with both uncounterability and protection from blue. And my friend actually had one in his deck. His face when in my baral deck I pulled out an Introduction to Annihilation still gets me smirking whenever I think about it.
still dont see the budget of $13? you click the link, have cart options set to show lowest possible, then shows $126.69 lol
I will build this deck and put my Shark tornado as a wincon
dude I feel like i’m getting robbed I see your deck at $13 and the cost of just the cards for me is like $30 on tcgplayer
Decanter of endless waters price has skyrocketed out of budget for this deck lmao
Why only basic lands?
I think everyone keeps asking for these decks so they can troll their friends lol
I’m at the point where I buy these before I even watch the video.
I have a question for the Patreon, do we have to be subbed to the tier for the whole year to get the annual specific rewards?
Edit: I'd love to have custom commander themed episode, especially a favorite among community made cards.
Just meaning a custom commander deck tech, with a popular custom commander.
Or something else amusing.
Am I blind or stupid? I cannot find the decklist.
The type of deck that made me quit magic back in vision...
Why has Commander become the new go-to format? I still prefer regular magic, but it seems like people go straight towards Commander every time
Late answer, but not having to worry about my deck no longer being legal helps
I played a deck like that
I won once with it with politics
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For example I will counter that if you do this and that.
But the commander was talrand
Mystic Sactuary would be a good card in this deck
Wow, talk about a Chad-Anti Chad or Timmy Deck....Luv it...
Decanter of Endless Water (already in the list)
It's in the list
@@NeroBloodfire thank you! I rescind my comment
Wonderful video!
Is this deck strong in 1v1?
Yup
I hate this deck immediately. Good job. I do think it will be tricky to win since everyone will be trying to murder you. Guile is a good one tho, who knows?
No, how you actually lose your friends, is getting the OG jin-gitaxias out and have a full turn cycle go around.
I’m new can you breakdown how this would play out? I have that card and want to put in this deck but not sure how to play it?
@@jamarclayton4155 basically, flash it in on an opponents end step to instantly nuke their hands, and by the time it's your turn again, none of your opponents have hands, and you draw 7 cards at the end of your turn.
@@robloxplayer0003 thanks for responding! I may have the wrong Jin card! It doesn’t have flash. It says “Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant.” Is that the same card?
@@robloxplayer0003 I think I found which card you’re talking about. Also when I flash on an opponents “end turn” does it matter when? Should I do it on the 1st opponent who plays after me or wait till the player we plays before me? I really appreciate your help
@jamarclayton4155 well, since with flash you don't cast it on their end step, you cast it when they declare the end of their second main phase in order for the end step trigger to occur.
Also, do it on the 1st player after you, who won't be able to respond except with a counterspell, which will, if it survives, mean when it is your turn, no opponents will have a hand and you basically win.
I'm usually playing with rather annoying people so this sounds fun to bug them back with
That friendship better not be worth it if you wanna throw down $13. I would destroy friendships for $5
Yeah, the table just needs to squash this deck before it gets to the point its efficient. Warping the game just because you can (it's not mass land destruction!) isn't any better. Except with MLD that can actually lead to a game being over shortly. Telling everyone your deck costs $20 and relying on pity to then proceed to annoy the table for an hour or two is pretty bad etiquette. A cheap deck to annoy your friends sure 10/10, originality or actual playability 0/10.
This makes me want to run the deck even more.
@@Gen_Warlock the deck will just collect dust or people will refuse to play against yet another mono blue permission deck.
@@symbs I think you're reading too into it.
@@Gen_Warlock decks not good, i just spelled it out so anyone dumb enough to be enticed might think twice.
I was literally trying to build a deck just like this to counter my friends exile deck and my other friends ninjitsu deck. ilu
Ninjutsu is an activated ability, this deck would fair poorly against a ninjutsu deck.
@@Intangible360 Not if I counter his creatures before they even come into play
@@EzAzAbc If your plan is to counter all of his creatures, I guarantee it does not work out. However, feel free to report back.
Bold of you to assume I have friends 😂
Telepathy is crazy for 1 cost. Such a dick card xD
Ah yes another dark side episode
price of friendship, 13$
Wrong. I was kicked out of my friend's home for playing sudden spoiling, and that's only a measly 1.50
Who needs friends when you play blue in commander??? Deck should be called Counter Friends
I didn’t know I needed a nope deck
Octavia is a better mono U commander.
Lol I highly recommend whoever wants to play this deck pay more than $13! U will have a miserable time trying to control 3 other players and u are more likely to get harassed out the game lol!
Bruh I'd rather pay $13 *for* friends
Next commander night lol
Top cheapest commander?
Needs Talrand (Sky Summoner) and Murmuring Mystic.
They were both in the video...
This simply doesnt work. You cant counter everything, and the thing you cant counter is gonna smack you silly.
Lol its about $35-$40 now
#blameeddy
No.
Anyone else getting tired of the "loose your friends" videos.
Like mitch I get showing off how cheap you can build a EDH deck, and the title probably gets more attention. but all you did was build a Counterspell.dek. That's how everyone builds this commander.
I hate these lose your friends decks....I thought you stopped posting them but I guess not.
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Magic players who play mono blue need to touch grass
Biggest suggestion for this channel, dont start with the mana ramp, please put it at the the end , it belongs to the "land section" of the video, it always steals the lifetime of people who at least have some clue about this game! ^^
This feels like a tutorial rather than a decklist…
Do you want him to just list the cards and that’s it? I don’t understand why that would be an issue.
Delete pls