I have this same condition. Ex kick boxer. Went to sleep.one night, woke up next morning, and couldnt use my left arm. It was dead. Could use hand,. But nothing in arm. Docs couldnt find out what was wrong. Took 13 months. Lost 85% muscle mass. After c3,c4,c5 neck surgery,. And injections,.. was able to use arm again. 4 years latter, and arm is still only about half the size of right arm. But thank God i can use it now.
So, Rogan is a bit wrong on the stem cell thing. Bush restricted federally funding on stem cell research on embryonic stem cells only. Not all stem cells. Very misleading.
Bit muddled but it was bad for all types of stem cell research because ES cells are the easiest to work with and allow us to learn a lot about the general principles of stem cell biology
Either way Bush is a bitch for stalling technology and science. Of course, what would he know about either. Just bc he looks like a Rhodes scholar next to trump doesn't mean he is.
Caber Cabe Actually, you are completely wrong. My mother got stem cell therapy, and the only way to get stem cell therapy in America is through Federally funded healthcare research programs, hence why she had to go to Mexico. Surprisingly as well, America has a higher death rate and failure rate than Mexico and is 20x the price!
4:07 Joe, those are bones, not disks. Disks are the things that go between the bones so that you can move. There are 17 disks in the back (not including the neck).
I would love to have people to talk with about my spine surgeries. L5-S1 with hardware and donor bone. My L5 wasn’t connected to either side. It could be spun loosely around my spinal cord. I ended up hurting a lot more when I woke up than when I walked in for the first surgery
I was third row at a Smackdown in the early 2000s, stood about ten feet from Kurt Angle. That is the biggest man I've ever met. Other guys are taller, nobody is as *massive* as Kurt was. He was as wide as he was tall. HUGE neck. Shoulders, too. Legs.
@@ether6136 I don't remember, honestly. Storyline wise it was the episode where Paul Heyman cut a sick promo on Vince face to face in the ring. I remember it feeling epic, but didn't quite play as big when I watched it back later.
@@arthurdaffos1490 I'll give it to them, most wrestlers obviously have the attributes but c'mon they're 100% on roids. Not all of them but I really don't think Vince drug tested them. He probably provided it to the roster if they wanted it lol. They didn't give af in the early 2000s.
@@jm.Beats. pro wrestlers is another ballpark, and afaik, vince used to allow steroids and other stuff, but with steroid trials in the 1990's and several cases of wrestlers dying related to steroid use to some extent, they have a strict policy for most guys now (most being the operative word here)
I have a right dead arm now and when try to use it's electric shocks... Any advice or suggestions other than a doctor of course I believe it's brachial plexus
The thing is the training and the grappling engaging, one thing that fucked many guys from the Bas era was that they trained their neck like hell in a unnatural way, search for Antonio Inoki neck training, it is fucking surreal
i got neck injury courtesy of wrestling at oct 5 2018 just before state tournaments still injured today im watching this hope god cures me asap and make me better than before inshallah
They want to fuse 4 of mine, I've had three spinal surgeries to remove 3 discs (in the first as an emergency the second two to repair the damage from the first), they were going to replace my discs at one point, I took up yoga 4 years ago and haven't had any treatment since.
I heard an interview with Don Frye about his back and him finding out he snapped all the titanium rods in his back. In true Don fashion it was funny as hell😂
Neck injuries are a bastard. I got one, lost strength in my left arm. They said they could fuse but as bas says, the other two above and below go faster. Mine was caused by headbanging.
That was a folk style wrestler in high school. Approximately 55 State sanctioned matches.I'm still paying the price in lingering injuries.You eventually have to pay the Fiddler and the cost can be high.
I've got 4 fusion titanium plate,6bone grafts,arms definitely atrophy they went in front and back so far pretty good went 2mos only could pick up 2lbs ,then 10lbs for 6mos now up to 20lb,mine was so bad it actually had paralysised bottom quarter of my lungs
Double neck fusion. Took 7 hrs. TT rearended me. He said he was looking for his lighter. Fkn dikhd almost killed me. Dbl concusion. Nerve damage. The dbl fusion... And I still need my L5 6 fused.
Mines is an L5-S1 fusion with hardware. I woke up in more pain than before. I had a bad reaction to it or something I guess. And not only has it painful over the years, and my quality of life is absolute shit all before the age of 40
I have an L5 herniated disc and my L4 is bulging. I'm in pain everyday and the doctor wants to do a fusion surgery next month. I Just turned 35 and don't know what to do
There are 23 discs in the human spine: 6 in the neck (cervical) region, 12 in the middle back (thoracic) region, and 5 in the lower back (lumbar) region.
My father and I both have serious back and neck issues. My dad more so then me. Wrestled since he was 5 until senior year of high school and has three Disks in his lower back that had to be fused. I wrestled almost as long but stop my junior year but then became a welder who is constantly looking down or up at weird angles at what I’m welding and have been having neck problems in the last few years and have had a nerve pinch in my lower back at the same place as my fathers twice We were both told the back issues are due to wrestling and my neck situation is due to having my neck cocked in weird ass positions for long periods of time. Don’t get me wrong I loved wrestling but would I put my child into at 6 like myself. Probably not. I will most likely wait until a later age when his or her muscles are more developed and strengthened enough to support some of the contortions you enevitably get yourself into
@@user-je3ri8hj7e yea not so much anymore. Used to grip stuff to tight. Welding lead dirt bike handlebars etc. once I started making a conciliatory effort to relax my grip hasn’t been an issue to often anymore Although when the nerve in my neck gets pinched it sends pain down my legs and arms all the way to my hands. It’s rough
Just so yall know Jamie didn't do search the right thing. Yall asked him to search how many discs are in a back, but he searched up how many bones are in a back. There's 33 bones in a back but only 23 discs, which means Don Fry has infused nearly half of his discs.
There are 23 discs in the human spine; six in the cervical region, or neck, five in the lumbar region, or lower back, and 12 in the thoracic region, or middle back. A thoracic disc is one of the discs in the thoracic region.
I have C-4-5-6-7 plate & screws, L-3 Laminectomy , L-4-5-S1 screws & rods. , Two rt. Shoulder. One Lt shoulder surgerys ,. Lt. Knee surgery ,. SERVER ARTHRITIS in upper back HUGE bone spurs ,. 31 yrs heavy construction ,. Disabled now , when the weather changes even WIND or worse RAIN. I HURT like HELL ,. I'm 59 now . When I say I feel your pain , I mean it .
Prosthetic discs were still kinda dangerous not long ago. I have an Ortho friend and he has seen several paralysis because of them. Have to have the perfect candidate and perfect surgery
Bas is correct. When you have a full fusion it puts pressure on the discs above and below and you will inevitably have issues with those as well, and on and on until you end up with a totally fucked spine. Best to try a micro-discectomy first if it's an option.
Bas was my fave amd I grew up with this stuff. It hirts me when Dolph Rogan talks about liver shots without mentioning Bas. It's spotty these days.. too many amazing martial artists, Hogen has a big pool to choose from . But Bas is my fave old guy. The American in me loves seeing hin beat up elite Japanese fighters. That isn't internal racism- I just grew up being scared of Ninjas. And Bas' career unfolded while I grew up.
I was at a local event a few years ago and as a “warm-up” for the MMA fights, we did some quick 2 minute submission-only rounds. I ended up in a really deep RNC against a really good wrestler, and as I tapped, the guy yanked on my neck. Pins and needles all the way from my neck to my toes and the biggest fright of my life and it hurt for weeks afterwards. I got matched up with him after the subs-only and kicked the fuck out of his leading knee. He couldn’t walk unassisted. He should have thought about that before he tried to break my neck. I don’t care if any of that offends any of you snowflakes.
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we need a new episode with Bas. Love this guy
“I hurt my neck...spinal”
Thpinal bruh.
I broke my back, I have a broken back
Declan Tobin neck is part of the spine, it’s called the cervical spine or c-spine.
Mike Tython
How good is your Dutch?
“ Thirty three...Oh, it’s not that bad then!” Bas is hilarious
7 Fused Vertebrae in my back, 13 hour back surgery. Had to learn how to walk again I'm still alive and kicking ass and lifting weights. OSU!!!!!
Gay
@@klantifashakur9894 lol
My guy what is wrong with you
Alex Gemi I would guess motorsports.
Silviu Florin the first comment where he doesn’t say what his injury is? Shut up, idiot.
Can't wait to see what Jamie spells wrong knext lol
*next
emir #1
Woosh*
You eat breakfast at 7. (seven cervical vertebrae) You eat lunch at noon. (12 thoracic vertebrae) You eat dinner at 5 (five lumbar vertebrae)
whaàaaaaaat
@@aShamelessHigh It's a neckmonic.
You sir mr david is smarter than me
Catch That Little Scary Cat
Cervical, Thoracic, Lumbar, Sacral, Coccyx
All the different vertebrae.
Jesus was 33 when he died at the cross.
We have 33 vertebrae. They start at the sacrum.
Sacrum > Sacred.
Kurt Angle looks like when you fuck up your custom character on a WWE game lol.
"Kneck... The K is silent..." - Young Jamie
I though these were bars from young thug
Neck injurys are no joke.
3:12 Joe smoking a bowl on the down low😂
@Gamebred - 😂 if you've ever smoked a bowl you can hear the whistling noise when you clear it lol
Bas is such sweet guy. Great broadcaster and major league fun! One of the best athletes, period.
I'm not racist but I'm pretty sure he's Dutch (y)
Most of them guys are pretty fun :)
I have this same condition. Ex kick boxer. Went to sleep.one night, woke up next morning, and couldnt use my left arm. It was dead. Could use hand,. But nothing in arm. Docs couldnt find out what was wrong. Took 13 months. Lost 85% muscle mass. After c3,c4,c5 neck surgery,. And injections,.. was able to use arm again. 4 years latter, and arm is still only about half the size of right arm. But thank God i can use it now.
What caused the dead arm?
Damn dude, I watched this cause I'm dealing with it now...
Brachial plexus I'm thinking but haven't been checked 💯
Pain I've dealt with for so long
"I won a gold medal with a broken freaking kneck!" - Curt Angel
Neck?
Holy shit. He botched both names.
I think he’s making fun of Jamie’s spelling lol
Some really slow people here to not get the joke. Jamie-level slow.
Tom Tanaka "Oh it's true, it's damn true."
I could listen to Joe an bas all day long. These two are both awesome winners with great stories ✌️😎❤️
Knice video. When's the knext one out?
So, Rogan is a bit wrong on the stem cell thing. Bush restricted federally funding on stem cell research on embryonic stem cells only. Not all stem cells. Very misleading.
@@roadgetfrogoff4674 yes, Bush is
Bit muddled but it was bad for all types of stem cell research because ES cells are the easiest to work with and allow us to learn a lot about the general principles of stem cell biology
Either way Bush is a bitch for stalling technology and science. Of course, what would he know about either. Just bc he looks like a Rhodes scholar next to trump doesn't mean he is.
Caber Cabe Actually, you are completely wrong. My mother got stem cell therapy, and the only way to get stem cell therapy in America is through Federally funded healthcare research programs, hence why she had to go to Mexico. Surprisingly as well, America has a higher death rate and failure rate than Mexico and is 20x the price!
Embryonic stem cells are by far the most promising type of stem cell
Bas is a legend.
I remember playing GTA 4 and pulling the car over and just listening to bas talking on that radio show lol
I did that with him and with dr ray deangelou harris
Yall never saw his show on the gta 4 tv ? Its pure gold
@@cesarortega7870 boom! right in the liver
Bas is the goat
@Paul Boccuti 😂 nice hairline
Wow that’s rough. Paying the price for all the training and competitive bouts.
I keep on looking for the full show !?
Kneck??
and it wasn't a typo, it's spelt that way in the description too!!
I believe he means Neeck.
Yeah weed will do that to ya
Nerve pain from a neck injury is probably the worst experience I've ever been through.
SAME BUT STIFF NECK IS WORST
THEN THE NERVE PAIN
@@leelunk8235 Don't compare pain
@@ashernoreen IVE HAD BOTH
4:07 Joe, those are bones, not disks. Disks are the things that go between the bones so that you can move. There are 17 disks in the back (not including the neck).
Get Kurt Angle on the show
Sounds like Eddie Bravo is a cyborg. Titanium spine discs? Nice.
I would love to have people to talk with about my spine surgeries. L5-S1 with hardware and donor bone. My L5 wasn’t connected to either side. It could be spun loosely around my spinal cord. I ended up hurting a lot more when I woke up than when I walked in for the first surgery
Joe"I was talking to a buddy of mine about a mutual buddy of ours" Rogan
Young "kneck" Jamie
I was third row at a Smackdown in the early 2000s, stood about ten feet from Kurt Angle. That is the biggest man I've ever met. Other guys are taller, nobody is as *massive* as Kurt was. He was as wide as he was tall. HUGE neck. Shoulders, too. Legs.
was it in the "shut your mouth' days?
Those wrestlers man, they have freakish physique and strenght. Like look at yoel romero its another freak of nature/science
@@ether6136 I don't remember, honestly. Storyline wise it was the episode where Paul Heyman cut a sick promo on Vince face to face in the ring. I remember it feeling epic, but didn't quite play as big when I watched it back later.
@@arthurdaffos1490 I'll give it to them, most wrestlers obviously have the attributes but c'mon they're 100% on roids. Not all of them but I really don't think Vince drug tested them. He probably provided it to the roster if they wanted it lol. They didn't give af in the early 2000s.
@@jm.Beats. pro wrestlers is another ballpark, and afaik, vince used to allow steroids and other stuff, but with steroid trials in the 1990's and several cases of wrestlers dying related to steroid use to some extent, they have a strict policy for most guys now (most being the operative word here)
50 comments about spelling and 2 comments about the actual topic lol
Anyone know where I can get that shirt Joe is wearing?
YES, I'm pumped to hear that. :D
Joe and bas are pretty funny together you can tell they are both just being themselfs. Cheers guys.
"A store of medicine" 😂😂😂 I'm a big guy and that shit made me crack up.
How do you fuse the discks?
Kurt's neck was never fused, he said he refused due to not wanting to lose mobility
Old warriors....man....the human body just wasn't meant to beat on things and get beat on for decades. God bless em.
Which is better for the long run grappling or striking? health terms.
"if i ever get injured i got a store of medicine" best line i've heard in a while 😂😂
weres the ep?
I have a right dead arm now and when try to use it's electric shocks...
Any advice or suggestions other than a doctor of course
I believe it's brachial plexus
You guys are knot funny with these spelling jokes
It’s actually 33 vertebrae and 23 intervertebral discs .....
So the takeaway from this discussion, don't fight in MMA competitions.
The thing is the training and the grappling engaging, one thing that fucked many guys from the Bas era was that they trained their neck like hell in a unnatural way, search for Antonio Inoki neck training, it is fucking surreal
@@TheMegaregister
Yeah, one can fuck up the neck by training it in wrong ways.
Easily...
And the suffering from it is huge.
i got neck injury courtesy of wrestling at oct 5 2018 just before state tournaments still injured today im watching this hope god cures me asap and make me better than before inshallah
They want to fuse 4 of mine, I've had three spinal surgeries to remove 3 discs (in the first as an emergency the second two to repair the damage from the first), they were going to replace my discs at one point, I took up yoga 4 years ago and haven't had any treatment since.
I heard an interview with Don Frye about his back and him finding out he snapped all the titanium rods in his back. In true Don fashion it was funny as hell😂
5:55 “yeah I did one like two weeks ago” - Bas Rutten
Jamie with the good spelling!
Neck injuries are a bastard. I got one, lost strength in my left arm. They said they could fuse but as bas says, the other two above and below go faster. Mine was caused by headbanging.
Ow, sorry!
Heading banging to music is all?
Always loved Bas... dude is a savage
That was a folk style wrestler in high school. Approximately 55 State sanctioned matches.I'm still paying the price in lingering injuries.You eventually have to pay the Fiddler and the cost can be high.
4:35... this shit is hilarious.😂😂
Any update on Bas' arm?
I've got 4 fusion titanium plate,6bone grafts,arms definitely atrophy they went in front and back so far pretty good went 2mos only could pick up 2lbs ,then 10lbs for 6mos now up to 20lb,mine was so bad it actually had paralysised bottom quarter of my lungs
Bas is one of the Greatest ever i like him alot
He is the best cause of his talent, charisma and personality. He won't ground and pound when he knows he won.
1:02 the bat turn!
Double neck fusion. Took 7 hrs. TT rearended me. He said he was looking for his lighter. Fkn dikhd almost killed me. Dbl concusion. Nerve damage. The dbl fusion... And I still need my L5 6 fused.
Mr T damn bro! Thoughts and prayers are with you!
I think death was afraid of Don Frye 🤨
I don’t know how many disks but there are 7 cervical, 12 thoracic, 5 lumbar vertebrae
"I got a store of medicine" haha lol
Mines is an L5-S1 fusion with hardware. I woke up in more pain than before. I had a bad reaction to it or something I guess. And not only has it painful over the years, and my quality of life is absolute shit all before the age of 40
I have an L5 herniated disc and my L4 is bulging. I'm in pain everyday and the doctor wants to do a fusion surgery next month. I Just turned 35 and don't know what to do
It’s a Harrington Rod procedure, install titanium and stainless rods and screws
At the end of the day the fight game is designed to break you
Kurt needs to be on this pod
Baz Rutten once had a nee and nob injury too
Baz ?? 🤔😂🤣
There are 23 discs in the human spine: 6 in the neck (cervical) region, 12 in the middle back (thoracic) region, and 5 in the lower back (lumbar) region.
My father and I both have serious back and neck issues. My dad more so then me. Wrestled since he was 5 until senior year of high school and has three
Disks in his lower back that had to be fused.
I wrestled almost as long but stop my junior year but then became a welder who is constantly looking down or up at weird angles at what I’m welding and have been having neck problems in the last few years and have had a nerve pinch in my lower back at the same place as my fathers twice
We were both told the back issues are due to wrestling and my neck situation is due to having my neck cocked in weird ass positions for long periods of time.
Don’t get me wrong I loved wrestling but would I put my child into at 6 like myself. Probably not. I will most likely wait until a later age when his or her muscles are more developed and strengthened enough to support some of the contortions you enevitably get yourself into
How old should a child start wrestling?
@@gamingthisera6339 I’d say middle school age 12 or 13 at the earliest
@@kirkcrawford5091did you have problems with your hands ?
@@user-je3ri8hj7e yea not so much anymore. Used to grip stuff to tight. Welding lead dirt bike handlebars etc. once I started making a conciliatory effort to relax my grip hasn’t been an issue to often anymore
Although when the nerve in my neck gets pinched it sends pain down my legs and arms all the way to my hands. It’s rough
Jamie must’ve caught a contact high 😂
Just so yall know Jamie didn't do search the right thing. Yall asked him to search how many discs are in a back, but he searched up how many bones are in a back. There's 33 bones in a back but only 23 discs, which means Don Fry has infused nearly half of his discs.
I didnt even know this type of injury was a thing. Crazy.
Bas is the man! If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much, lol
Bas resembles a Doctor Phil that nobody would wanna catch outside
Discs don't fuse, vertebrae do. The discs actually disappear.
Gimme dat Knecc
There are 23 discs in the human spine; six in the cervical region, or neck, five in the lumbar region, or lower back, and 12 in the thoracic region, or middle back. A thoracic disc is one of the discs in the thoracic region.
There are 23 discs in the spine. The sacrum and coccyx are naturally fused vertebrae.
YOU CANT GO FROM A NECK FUSION TO AN ARTIFICIAL DISC. IMPOSSIBLE
Kneck? What are you smoking Jamie?
Lol
Does anyone know the doctor Bas went to?
*HELLOOOO FREAK BITCHES!* :D
Prellis 3D holographic bioprinting will bring legit disc replacement.
I got a injury once from a Rear Knecked Choke.
I'd doubt he got a disc replacement in England (Which isn't Europe btw). Are they even available in the UK?
Why would you be unable to get a disk fusion in England lol? And England is in Europe by the way lol 😂
If England isn’t in Europe than what continent is it?
He should be your co host
What happened to Bas arm?
Joe, Representing Boston! Indeed
2:24 hol up, rousey got hot again
I have C-4-5-6-7 plate & screws, L-3 Laminectomy , L-4-5-S1 screws & rods. , Two rt. Shoulder. One Lt shoulder surgerys ,. Lt. Knee surgery ,. SERVER ARTHRITIS in upper back HUGE bone spurs ,. 31 yrs heavy construction ,. Disabled now , when the weather changes even WIND or worse RAIN. I HURT like HELL ,. I'm 59 now . When I say I feel your pain , I mean it .
Prosthetic discs were still kinda dangerous not long ago. I have an Ortho friend and he has seen several paralysis because of them. Have to have the perfect candidate and perfect surgery
Is a kneck like a knee?
Bas is always the best!
How did bas rip his bicep?
Bass hurt his neck on sons of anarchy
Bas is correct. When you have a full fusion it puts pressure on the discs above and below and you will inevitably have issues with those as well, and on and on until you end up with a totally fucked spine. Best to try a micro-discectomy first if it's an option.
Yes, the cascade. We must find some kind of disc filler. That would be an amazing development!
Bas was my fave amd I grew up with this stuff. It hirts me when Dolph Rogan talks about liver shots without mentioning Bas. It's spotty these days.. too many amazing martial artists, Hogen has a big pool to choose from . But Bas is my fave old guy. The American in me loves seeing hin beat up elite Japanese fighters. That isn't internal racism- I just grew up being scared of Ninjas. And Bas' career unfolded while I grew up.
Look after your spine's gents.
My spine has gents?
@G That's even worse for your Spine. Lol
@G nevermind commented before the end lol
@Paul Boccuti lucky man I only have 3
I was at a local event a few years ago and as a “warm-up” for the MMA fights, we did some quick 2 minute submission-only rounds.
I ended up in a really deep RNC against a really good wrestler, and as I tapped, the guy yanked on my neck.
Pins and needles all the way from my neck to my toes and the biggest fright of my life and it hurt for weeks afterwards.
I got matched up with him after the subs-only and kicked the fuck out of his leading knee. He couldn’t walk unassisted. He should have thought about that before he tried to break my neck.
I don’t care if any of that offends any of you snowflakes.
Fr good job he deserve it.
Peice of garbage absolutely deserved it
Who would get offended by that? You did the right thing. Fuck him.
I was actually expecting a bit of a backlash from people saying “an eye for an eye makes the world go blind”.
Cheers to all of you.
@@alrumuller9300 Two eyes for an eye. - Bas Jesus Rutten
LMAO DISC FUSED THEMSELVES LOL
I felt like Joe when they were talking about titanium spines. No thank you