@@CombatpzmanNot sure where you live but I've seen tons of new Frontiers and Colorados in Albuquerque, and very very few new Tacomas. Still see lots of old Tacomas and Colorados, though.
@@CombatpzmanConsidering how well they are selling. You’re either lying or blind lol, but then again you aren’t watching for them so I guess that’s fair.
I know you probably won't see, this but I also lost my rear camera. It was the coaxial cable. The dealer diagnosed it right off. The part took about three weeks to arrive at and the repair took an afternoon. That's the only issue I've had so far. I've had my 2023 Colorado Z71 seven months and it has 6k miles. I love it.
I think it is a GM issue across all platforms. This is happening on my 2023 Silverado right now, and it's been to the dealership twice. However, they keep saying they cannot replicate the issue and Chevy won't fix it unless it happens at the dealership. I even showed them a video of it doing on my phone , which I took the night before. Chevy is a damn joke when it comes to fixing issues.
I test drove the Colorado 3 times, but in the end, i settled for the Nissan pro4x. 6k off msrp. So for roughly 39k i get a really nice truck. Already had the spray in bed liner, cruise controls, heated seats, heated steering wheel, remote start ,blind spot ,led lights and so much more. Happy with me decision...
@@jedioutcast888It’s actually because they’re the least “offensive” colors. Most people will live with a silver car. Not very many people want a lime green
Interesting. You're right about the ZR2. I went to look at one a couple of months ago, thinking if I liked the new Colorado I would order a Trail Boss. When I looked at the ZR2 I realized it was pretty much ready to go off road as is. The lift, tires, lockers, some skid plates, the off road pages, etc. There was nothing I had to do to it, unlike almost any other truck I've bought in the past. I brought it home with me. I kind of consider it the Colorado version of a Raptor, or at least close to it. Loving the truck so far.
I just rented the Nissan Frontier and I liked it. The one thing keeping it off my list though is that it is a direct injection engine with no port injection to keep the intake valves clean. The one I rented had only 14k miles on it and already had a rough idle, which can be a symptom of dirty intake valves. If I were to buy the Nissan, then I would definitely put a catch can on it. The Tacoma has both direct and port injection which is one of the reasons it's on the top of my list.
Andre if you're worried about not having cruise control because it's an option wait until the future where the seats and steering wheel will be an option after base price.
I took delivery of a 2024 Colorado Z71 just a few weeks ago. We've taken it on two road trips in the west (Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho) for a total of 2,500 miles. So far, it has been flawless. Lots of power over those two big summits on I-70 in Colorado. And better highway MPG than the EPA rating. Driving from 65 to 75 mpg we are getting 24 to 25 mpg. Not bad.
I had a 2018 Colorado. Put about 120,000 miles on it. The only part I ever had to replace was a thermostat. About a month ago I traded that in on a 2023 Colorado Z71. Love it so far.
Finding ref to "afterblow" page 145 in 2023 manual. Afterblow Feature If equipped, under certain conditions, the fan may stay on or may turn on and off several times after you turn off and lock the vehicle. This is normal.
@@scotw67 😢 There are other threads under this video. You didn't have to go out your way and *_"rub-it-in"_* 😶 ⬇️ ⬇️ L😂L The price of those 2024 Tacomas are super expensive. Even for a base model , I can probably throw in another 5 grand and then get a low-end Silverado.
I like this truck and would buy one except for the lack of a longer box option and I’m not interested in so many of the controls being accessible only through the touch screen.
Just out of curiosity, how often do you mess with the headlights? Vehicle information is easily available through a shortcut and is no more complex than navigating the DIC with 4 arrows. So this is a non issue that is being blown way out of proportion. how about the fact that Toyota will sell you a vehicle with the hardware for command start but in order to use it you have to pay a monthly subscription, to use a button on your key fob!
Like the truck, its just long term reliability that worrys me. The torque and payload in a midsized truck, its tough to over look. Full size truck power in a smaller package I like. If they can improve reliability I may look into getting one in the future.
Crazy that the Colorado’s issues are really tied to technology issues rather than mechanical. If they really spent the time fixing the tech side correctly, this truck would stand out much more
This is why I have always thought "over the air updates" for vehicles are ridiculous--because they can't possibly account for what you might or might not do to upgrade the vehicle. For a hundred years, we manufactured and drove vehicles without "over the air updates", and everything was fine...why do we suddenly need them now? I don't want the manufacture retaining an ongoing role with the vehicle after I've bought it.
Because there was nothing to update. It's for the computer software to p possibly give you new features, but mainly to keep it secure. I agree it is a bad idea, you should have to accept it and be set to update the next time you park the vehicle and keep the engine on so it can't kill the battery and shut down the engine once complete.
Tesla and rivian are proving OTA updates to be bug benefits. Both of those vehicles get better as you have them with feature and quality of interface updates.
well it should not be replacing entire software, or even if it does need to replace a lot there should be easy simple way how to upgrade feature list by VIN ... freaking 2024 people are under impression we humanity are so advancing, they call every little better working nonsense AI, but we still struggling with basic stuff
Most new startups (or non-legacy brands) utilize an electrical network architecture powered by a very capable CPU and sophisticated software designed by the best in the world in Silicon Valley. Legacy brands still rely on very old-fashioned architecture that relies on supplier control modules with designs dating back to the 1980s and not necessarily designed for flexibility but cost. Until legacy manufacturers scrap their current way of doing things, they will continue to struggle with their electrical architecture and software on new vehicles, and the technology gap will widen.
Nathan has a very good point. We had a captiva for 10 years, numerous company cars, now a rav4. I'm the newest driver here and. Never ever had or heard of a back up camera failure. That should not happen in a new vehicle. Specially if visibility is poor and it's mandatory equipment (not the case over here) truck looks fine and all but that's just silly...
I am watching you from Germany. I really like all of your TFL channels. Thank you for your work. I am driving a Hilux, Land Cruiser Prado and GRJ 76. Unfortunately all of your US Trucks are not really available in Europe because of our restrictive green government. Maybe I will buy me a house in Colorado, looks beautiful.
@All-Miles-Matter your opinion is noted, beta. Driving yourself is OK. The wussification is widespread now. The sheeple needed their vehicles to do things for them, to make them fluff status symbols. And people wonder why accidenta have increased, insurance rates increased as well as vehicle prices. Can't survive without your heated seats and steering wheels either? Let men drive.
the saleman asked if he wanted sliding rear window . i dont think andre would say no , i dont think they asked him about CC they danced around it.@@elche1976
@@elche1976 when your paying 40 grand plus for a car there is no excuse not to have it at that price point. You don’t need to be a cunt. Well maybe you do.
2023 Colerados in Canada are under a recall and stop sale for daytime running lights. Was supposed to pick up my ZR2 last week and they won't release it. Gm still has not got a software update to fix the recall. 37 days so far. Gm is pretty slow in getting things done.
Not an excuse by any means but the reason for that is probably due to the newly hired software engineers. I read they just hired ex Google and Apple employees if I'm not mistaken. The software in my canyon AT4 isn't terrible but it could use a little work
@@andy51300 most coming in a direct order only. Not like the old days where the lots were full of different models to select from. Even if they do have stock they are all on a stop sale right now.
I have the 2017 Colorado LT. 3.6L V6, full options. I absolutely love it. It has never given me any grief. It has needed nothing but gas and oil (and new brakes last year) since I bought it. I have heard some people have issues with the 8 speed transmission but it has always treated me well.
Is TFL going to invest in a Frontier Pro4X? I know a guy that has one and loves it. He had a previous gen Tacoma and he says the Frontier is superior. Thanks for sharing this video and investing in the Colorado!
Andre if it's a federal mandate that your car has to be equipped with a reverse camera and GM will not fix that For you they should replace your truck with a new truck since it is was new truck when it went out.
Maybe the techs should have ohm the wire to the camera both checking short, short to ground, and short to shielding. Doesn't take a special tool just a multimeter and competence which is very lacking in automotive shops these days. My list of issues with my AT4X Cruise control the vehicle brakes for no reason, the display switches from miles per hour to kilometers on it's own, blind spot monitoring on passenger indicates something is there that isn't then when I pass a vehicle I doesn't even register, windshield whistles when going highway speeds, cameras sometimes just stop working, sunroof thumps whenever it rains, heat doesn't work unless setting above 78 degrees, and with trips that last more that 20 mins I get a really strong smell of burning motor oil. Love the ride quality but way to many issues and time to move on. It really like the vehicle but can't live with so many issues on a new vehicle. If GM can't get right systems that have been around for over a decade then I am very worried for the super cruise
I purchased a GMC 2018 Canyon Denali with 2.8L Diesel engine which now has 45K miles on it. I've had 2 types of problems with mine. I had 4 problems with the DEF system in the first 12K miles and problem was finally resolved after the dealer replaced the entire DEF system. The other problem was the transmission. It developed a shudder and the dealer said the transmission could not be fixed and had to be replaced at $9,000. I opted to flush the transmission and replace the fluid. This fixed the shudder issue and it is now one of the smoothest shifting transmissions I've experienced.
Have owned four Tacoma's (and still own a 2019 TRD Sport) but went for a 2023 ZR2 for the simple reason of price. Got a fully loaded ZR2 (minus the Bose stereo - my fault as didn't check the box) for 53K and change. Absolutely love it (have 4K miles on it). Have only had one tech glitch but great otherwise. Did kick around waiting on the new Tacoma but to be equivalent I would have had to wait for a TRD Pro. I'm thinking they will be 65K plus for one of those when you put in the fact most dealers are going to price gouge.
I think calling the Trail Boss the upper level trim is incorrect. The Trail Boss is a WT with the off road package. The LT actually is the higher level trim without the off road additions. For the same price of the Trail Boss I got the LT fully loaded with heated seats and steering wheel, duel comfort zones, lane maintain, upgraded power seats, upgraded interior, tow package, upgraded engine, led lights, bed liner, bed cover, rear seat console and a finer interior trim. GM was looking at 2 different demographics with the Trail Boss an the LT but the LT can still off-road with upgrades if you want. It is just not semi-pro ready.
I know the new turbo Max engines circulate coolant through the turbo after you shut it down. Honestly I believe this is something that Toyota should have copied
Bought one and have 5500 miles. Love it so far. I’ve definitely used my truck . Great off road and towing. Bugs I’ve experienced was a dead battery and It braked for me suddenly and scared the crap out of me 2times. . Other than that it’s a great truck
We can all blame our politicians for Screwing up our New Vehicles, With all of these Mostly ridiculous Safety systems required now, EVs etc, Trying to save people from themselves with computers drives me crazy, Yes I personally own two 2020 Vehicle's, At least I didn't overpay for any of this 🇺🇸.
Good luck what’s coming next after this is the transmission problems. Harsh shift up shifting from 1st gear to 2nd gear. Main problem with these trucks
I think the Colorado is better looking than the Tacoma. I love the color too. And the wrap was a good move. What I don't like about any of the mid sized trucks are the small fuel tanks. I tow a small camper. So the mid sized can all handle it. But when towing, the small tanks means limited range. Once you get 10 to 12 MPG towing, the range is unacceptable. I tend to take long camping trips, 6,000 to 12,000 miles (Alaska). Hot March day in Colorado? That fan running is totally unacceptable. Sounds like lemon law on that back up camera. And its ridiculous Chevy doesn't have cruise control standard.
I was going to buy a 24 Tacoma, and the breakdown video changed my mind. This video put the Colorado out of contention. Andre should have been provided with a loaner for the backup camera issue. Serious liability for GM if an injury occurs. I will just keep my 19 Tundra. Beyond a recall for light brightness, it has been trouble-free and has a usable bed.
I also got the 430# torque calibration for my Colorado Trail Boss , the difference is , I raced a Colorado ZR2 at a light here in Phoenix and barley stayed ahead of him, I think it’s because ZR2 has bigger heavier tires!
First time Chevy owner, first time pick up truck owner, bought a loaded up 2023 Colorado LT. Has all packages except for the convenience package three. Has both towing packages and the technology package. Just got it about five days ago. Had 7000 miles on it. It was originally purchased in 2024, even though it’s a 2023 model. I absolutely love it so far. This is coming from somebody who never wanted a pick up truck. I do have a boat and want to know in the future that if I got a camper, I could tow it. So far, I love it. It was packaged with the turbo plus.
Now that I've heard the backstory about when the truck was ordered, it sounds like that the whole cruise control issue can be traced back to a salesperson doing a lousy job of explaining what the different option packages included. That, OR, they did explain it and Andre consciously chose to save the money...but that's not how the story's being told, and I'm sure he'd admit it if he declined it intentionally. I can only imagine how much more positive Andre's experience with this truck would have been if the ordering process was done more competently. Also, how have these guys not figured out that the 'glitchy' fan activity is the afterblow feature for the HVAC? RTFM, guys...lol. 😉
I'l get some haters, but I prefer my Honda Ridgeline. Just don't need body-on-frame for heavy payloads or towing. Love the smooth ride of the Ridgeline. It doesn't get enough respect.
@@DH-mf2lv Only fools buy extended warrantees, as 99.9% of the time the warranty is more money than the possible repairs that you may or may not incur! Lol
I have been a Toyota guy for along time but now that I am in the market for a pickup I find myself liking the GMC Canyon but I admit I am worried about reliability.
I extensively researched midsized trucks, chose '23 Colorado ZR2. Coming up on 10k miles and ZERO issues. A joy to drive on, off road. Avg 22.5mpg on winters (Blizzaks) interstate 70-80mph. The 2.7LI4T is a BEAST.
Frontier Pro-4X definitely a better buy. I looked at all the mid-size trucks (except Ford) and bought the 2023 Frontier in Sept 2023. It has operated flawlessly and I love it. Will probably change to BFG AT TA KO's when I need tires!
TFL Andre the way I would spec my Colorado Trail Boss $42,040 MSRP 1) Convivence 1 - required for tech package comes with rear sliding window and cruise control, rear defrost 2) Convivence 2 - required for tech package comes with power driver seat, slow fall tailgate, tailgate storage 3) Safety package - REAR CROSS TRAFFIC BRAKING, outside heated power adjustable side mirrors, rear park assist beep, BLIND ZONE STEERING ASSIST WITH TRAILERING 4) Tecnology Package - ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL, HD SURROUND VISION, 360 cameras great for off-roading and parking, REAR PEDESTRIAN ALERT, 5) ADVANCED TRAILERING PACKAGE - INTEGRATED TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER, IN-VEHICLE TRAILERING APP, TRAILERING PACKAGE with receiver and 4/7 pin connector The reason I would get this package is because I would add the skip plates, running boards, tonneau cover, floor liners, LED bulbs, Beg Rug, Weather Tech bed Liner, all later so not to have over $5K more on the 6yr truck loan.
guy sounds like me. "I ill never live this down" after not ordering cruise control on a new vehicle. I would literally lose sleep over that.But seriously, what NEW vehicle today does not come with CC? thats insane.
Bought and sold a 23 Trail Boss in 6 months. Way to many "technology" issues and the dealer really didn't seem to care. Issues were either declared as normal or they couldn't duplicate them so no action was taken...great looking truck but I don't miss it at all.
Andre! You should be able to get In contact with your dealership and they can contact techline connect and should be able to put cruse control on your truck, it would be a vin specific upgrade I believe it would be possible
Agreed. They aren't reliable. Too make short term issues and horrible longevity. Might be why the company is struggling financially. Rumors are they may bankrupt AGAIN if they continue with their ways
@@thewireman134 lmao nah you should stop 😂 I've delt with gms quality and so have my friends and co worker had to work on them as well wtf from die hard bow ties now they're burning trash 😂
We have a new Canyon AT4 our son drives (couldn't find a Trail Boss), I love it's capability and it drives confidently with lots of low end torque plus it's refreshing not driving a full size truck around town but the second row cabin space is horrible, can't have it all I guess. No issues with it though.
what’s horrible about the second row i’m curious, there’s AC vents which most mid sizes don’t have especially frontier / tacoma and i’ve owned a tacoma and i consider comfortability subpar. frontier was even tighter. but never tried a canyon
@@alexanderradec Good point, this is our first mid-size truck so I'm comparing second row space to other smaller SUVs and I usually drive the family around in a full size truck. I'm sure space is limited back there in all mid-size trucks.
Same truck here, I do agree that I wish they could've given just a few more inches of leg room but it's not anything in upset over. Better under seat and behind rear seat storage would've been really nice. Or at least a fold down backrest
In 2022, when I heard about all the technology GM was adding to the 2023 Canyon/Colorado, I knew I didn't want what they were selling because I don't need that much technology in a truck. I also don't like the trend of car manufacturers to take away options and charge more for technology and make customers pay subscription fees. I found a 2016 Canyon extended cab with a long box and a manual transmission at a decent price. It has a naturally aspirated 4-cylinder engine that is too quiet, and I couldn't hear the engine when driving. I replaced the muffler with a Cherrybomb Vortex, and now I can hear the engine when shifting gears and fuel economy improved by about 2 MPG. I also need towing mirrors from Boost Autoparts because they are more "boxy" compared to the ClearView towing mirrors.
Same for me. I read the upcoming reviews and decided that I didn't need a restyle or a high-tech simulated gauge cluster. And I wanted the long bed. So I got off my butt and bought a 2022 while I still could. The 2.5L is arguably a touch underpowered, but I didn't buy mine for mud bogging or towing a fifth wheel. I rationalize that good fuel economy is more important than being able to rush from traffic lights anyway.
@Avo7bProject The 4-cylinder is definitely underpowered, and I think that is why the previous owner sold the truck I bought. When I was driving it home, I had to downshift to 3rd or 2nd gear to get up steep hills with cars riding my bumper. But my previous truck was a 2002 Sonoma with a 4.3L V6, and I plan to engine swap the older port injected 4.3L V6 into my 2016 Canyon with a Tremic transmission. If a naturally aspirated small displacement 4-cylinder engine struggles to move a modern mid-sized truck when empty, then the engine is not powerful enough. You can add a turbo to increase horsepower and torque, but I think the engine will be working too hard most of the time. I never had any problems with the 4.3L V6 and I think I can get decent horsepower/torque and still get good fuel economy because the motor doesn't have to work as hard as a smaller displacement engine.
In February the automaker ordered dealerships to stop selling the 2023 Colorado and Canyon trucks that were already on dealer lots until problems could be fixed. Sounds like you are one of the lucky ones not to have too many issues.
That interior fan event is a feature - It's called "Afterblow." It keeps your HVAC from getting smelly due to the condensation from the A/C causing mold.
I would consider myself lucky if the rear backup camera in my Ford F250 didn't work, I can't stand it at night time trying to back up a trailer because the screen floods the interior with so much light it makes it hard to see my mirrors, I have a note book in my center console I use to cover the screen for that reason, I wish manufacturers would put a button on the dash to turn the screen off when it becomes a inconvenience like that.
You are very blessed. Everyone else has not been that fortunate. Did you by chance look at a Frontier Pro model with the V6 engine? I know a guy that had a previous gen Tacoma. He likes the Frontier much more. I (personally) still prefer a full size truck with a V8 engine.
Thank you for your videos. I have worked for jeep for over 30 years and seen your videos about the trail boss. We do not have a mid size truck except the jeep gladiator and would not purchase another one because of the price point and continue to replace windshields. I did purchase a trail boss and love it so far. I was looking at Tacomas but they raised the price so much I couldn't justify spending that kind of money. The trail boss is everything I need looks great very comfortable and couldn't pass up the price point on this truck. Thanks again for all your reviews on the trail boss.
Just remember guys, TFL has no problems discussing, in nauseating detail, the issues with the colorado but did you hear Andre saying "can we talk about the tacoma" when he mentioned the colorado pulling it out. Toyota seems to have a bug up their butt, TFL appears to be terrified of them lol.
agree. feel like they are crapping on the colorado a little bit. now, i may be biased, but my 23 z71 has been fantastic and i have not had the problems andre has had. i turned off the OTA updates and never suffered the problem. just check the updates when i get my oil and tires rotated. best vehicle i have ever owned. the z71 also comes with more features standard. i believe the z71 is most comparable to the trd off road, but 5k cheaper. i got several options/packages with my z71 and it came out to the same price as their base trd off road. even with the mid tuned engine, it is still class leading until the raptor and trd pro come out.
@@jedioutcast888 Hahahahha..when your transmission, driveshaft, and electric die, and they will before 50,000 miles get back with us.......Consumer Reports has documented all these problems.....worst small truck out there SUCKER.
@@jedioutcast888 You wont be so glad when the warranty is out on that Colorado...but when it breaks down you can stay at home and workout as you watch more Mike Glover and Warrior Poet videos.....two of the biggest internet gun clowns on the tube--surprised you passed on their blowhard pal Larry Vickers, the 3 stooges. Have a great day. Been fun.
Your review of the Colorado was well done, and makes me happy that I bought my Honda Ridgeline. Now let me qualify by saying I do not off-road. I do not tow with my truck, or NART if you prefer. my truck has a gross vehicle carrying weight of 1499 compared to Andres 1514 and my bed although lower which is easier to reach over is 2 inches longer. I have friends that have the Colorado and love it but they do different things with theirs. Best of luck with your truck, and from the information you guys have provided me over the years help me make my decision to buy my Honda. Thank you and keep up the good work.
I have never been a midsize truck myself, However i am highly impressed wit the value of the Trail Boss,Performance, Towing Capability. All this at a price point of under 40k in the current market and some regions, is still a lot of value. I just wish you could order this trim level with heated seats, but it is. a more base work trim level. The whole needing GM TO flash a tune for 650 is insane though.
In 2001, I bought a used 2000 Sierra that did not have cruise control. I went to a local custom car shop that put in an aftermarket cruise control. It was basically a separate control on the side of the steering wheel, but it worked, was cheap and I didn't have to reprogram anything or change the steering wheel. Not sure if thats an option anymore with new trucks.
If you think about it from Toyota's prospective, you couldn't have a worse video for them then what happened. There entire reputation is built on being much more reliable then the competition and it blows a diff on a simple obstacle. Worse still it has to be pulled out by the competition.
I’ve had several Tyger bed covers and all of them have been durable long lasting and affordable. I just purchased my 4th one for my ram 2500 and got the same tri-fold Andrei has here in this video. Installs quick and removal is a breeze if needed.
I liked the look of the new Colorado - I almost ordered a 2023 Z71 Colorado but was very concerned about GM quality as I have had many issues with them. Have bought 5 Toyotas in the last 14 years only had 2 issues with them in over 300,000 miles. 1 fix under warranty which was rims oxidized and 1 air conditioner that was out of warranty at 63,000 miles and Toyota fixed it free of charge anyway. I did end up buying a 2022 Canyon Elevation Premium package 4x4 in Feb 2023. First GM vehicle in 14 years. Thought it wouldnt have any issues since it has been built the same for years - but had front end leak at 12,000 miles and have battled squeaking, clunking in the rear end and creaking in the front end since 3500 miles. I found Service bulletin for Clip change in rear differential = did not fix, replaced passenger side drive shaft = did not fix, after research for clunking i put rubber pads in the leaf springs = fixed 70% of clunking, next bulletin i printed out and had dealer re-torque all the bolts on the leaf spring = fixed the clunking, but still has a rattle noise coming from the rear differential area = no fix and wrote a long letter to the CEO of GMC to threaten GM with lemon law - told me rattling and loose rear end noise is normal - no other truck ive owned had this noise. the squeaking noise ended up being the E-Brake line rubbing against something causing an annoying & loud squeak as I drove a good dealer mechanic found this and wire tied this away to prevent contact = no squeak after listening to this for 8000 miles. GM does not fix known complaints so i am Leary of my purchase. I would buy the Nissan Frontier next, New Tacoma is to expensive for what it is. Hopefully Honda ups the capability and looks of the 2025 Ridgeline and i would highly consider this - i need it to tow 4800 lbs with some larger weight capacity room
It seems like a pretty solid truck. The "cruise control" thing sucks big time, makes no sense, except to make the buyer upgrade to the higher trim. Most car companies play games like that nowadays.
My 2019 RST Colorado has had zero issues since I bought it new off the trailer. I paid $34K and got 20 inch rims, 35 inch Bridgestone Dueller tires, full size matching spare, luxury package, the entertainment package, heated seats and steering wheel, full black leather interior, biggest touchscreen they offered at the time, V6. And it has cruise control. It's too bad he isn't as happy with his as I am with mine. As far as I am concerned, for a guy who isn't pulling a trailer, it's the perfect truck.
I’ve had my 23 ZR2 now for about 4 months now. I love it so far. I haven’t had it long enough to give a full review but there’s things I love and things I hate. What I love is how ready it was off the lot. I was looking at a trail boss but it doesn’t have nearly half the features the ZR2 comes with. And I was originally dead set on the tacomas but didn’t want that because it felt the price wasn’t get as much out of it as the ZR2 was. What I don’t like is some of the features are locked in on the screen when I would like for it to just be a button by my knee or something. It’s my daily driver and my hobby truck. I love it as of now. I’m just hoping it last as long as the Toyotas do.
You want a bit better MPG, go add 4 psi. Your screen shown 33/34 at 54f outside. You could get away just fine with 38psi, but as spring/summer approaches. you'll need to decide to let them go up to 40 and air down as the days/nights get warmer to keep them there. I have a '23 ZR2 and the 285/70R17 and run 37, but thinking of bumping them up. I did a stress test run to Seattle and back and in the cold, they got down to 32/33 naturally with the 31-33f air. I wanted the lower pressure to air down them just a bit on their own for the slush on 25 and 90 heading west.
Sorry to hear of the issues. Sadly they happen. I am happy to say I have had no issues with my 2023 Colorado ZR2. Love mine. Cruise control should be on everything as standard.
So, what happens if you put that truck outside in the hot air and not drive it for a week? Does the HVAC fan kick on and off until it kills your battery? I don’t like things that run when the engine isn’t, at least after a few minutes of being shut off.
The recurring theme in the comments seems to be to buy a frontier, lol. I considered this truck because of its capability and value. I was worried about reliability. Seems to be a problem. I used to say all these tech issues your having Andre could be fixed and ironed out. Then i heard about the cracked blocks.
Colorado and Canyon look pretty good. Sure they have similarities to Tacoma but still very different. With the trail boss I just think with a mid tier trim, chevy could’ve made led headlights standard and gave it a dampened tailgate and cruise control. The cost increase would’ve been negligible.
Had a similar problem with my 23 Ram where it took 4 repair attempts before they fixed some bad startup noise and low mpg. Was very close to invoking my state's lemon law.
Andre is the go to joke for not having cruise. LOL. I do feel the pain with GM quality, My 2024 Silverado has problems which should not be with 80K truck.
I have a 2024 gmc canyon at4 and have no issues. My only gripe is the wireless charging, but it came with the package. My truck has been awesome in the off roading in deep sand on the beach with the stock, Goodyear territory A-T tires. I get good fuel economy for a truck the same or maybe a little better sometimes than my Roush Ranger that I had. I get 19 to 20 in combination of city and highway driving and if I’m on a trip using mostly interstate I’ve seen 23 MPG. A lot of that depends on how aggressive you are with the throttle and how fast your traveling between 65 and 70 MPH is where I got those numbers occasionally 75 mph.
Colorado boldly goes where no modern Tacoma has gone before.
That's a funny ass comment, Captain 🫡
You mean they never leave the dealer lots? Honestly I haven’t seen one of these on the road, but I’m not watching for them. 😅
@@CombatpzmanNot sure where you live but I've seen tons of new Frontiers and Colorados in Albuquerque, and very very few new Tacomas. Still see lots of old Tacomas and Colorados, though.
@@CombatpzmanConsidering how well they are selling. You’re either lying or blind lol, but then again you aren’t watching for them so I guess that’s fair.
Yeah like the junkyard before they hit 100,000 miles.
I know you probably won't see, this but I also lost my rear camera. It was the coaxial cable. The dealer diagnosed it right off. The part took about three weeks to arrive at and the repair took an afternoon. That's the only issue I've had so far. I've had my 2023 Colorado Z71 seven months and it has 6k miles. I love it.
I think it is a GM issue across all platforms. This is happening on my 2023 Silverado right now, and it's been to the dealership twice. However, they keep saying they cannot replicate the issue and Chevy won't fix it unless it happens at the dealership. I even showed them a video of it doing on my phone , which I took the night before. Chevy is a damn joke when it comes to fixing issues.
@@kevine1037 Just give them time.
@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 haha
COAX YOU CAN FIX YOURSELF... EASY !
I test drove the Colorado 3 times, but in the end, i settled for the Nissan pro4x. 6k off msrp. So for roughly 39k i get a really nice truck. Already had the spray in bed liner, cruise controls, heated seats, heated steering wheel, remote start ,blind spot ,led lights and so much more. Happy with me decision...
And you get a 3.8L NA V6, not an overstressed I4 that's gonna pop in 4 or 5 years.
Same! I got a 23 for 38k and while I haven't gotten to go off pavement, I love it. Definitely the most comfortable seats I've ever had in a vehicle.
Those are nice. Does the back up camera still suck quality wise
@@bigd2256yes, I have a 2023 frontier and the backup camera video quality is terrible.
@@Commentleaver-c6x yeah I figured I had a 2021 Titan P4X and the camera quality was horrible. Nissan should add some better quality cameras
Seems like 80% of the vehicles on the road are either white, black or silver. I happen to like the gold color of this Trail Boss.
I agree,so complacent with their colors . I'd like to see two or three wildly new colors each year. Things like Sage, tangerine, emerald, Copper etc
The truck looks better than the other trucks in its class.
The reason you see those colors are because they are the cheapest for manufacturers to produce.
@@jedioutcast888It’s actually because they’re the least “offensive” colors. Most people will live with a silver car. Not very many people want a lime green
@@4477supermanOr Urine Yellow!
It wouldn't surprise me if the the AC turns the blower motor on to dry the evaporator coils after usage. Prevents mold which gives that musty smell.
That's exactly what it is doing.
Vehicle can be sitting for days and the fans will still kick on
Exactly what it's doing, except it should only do it once and for no more than 5 minutes.
Yup, it said a so in the owners manual
It's all good as long as your battery has 13.7 Volts, LOL
Interesting. You're right about the ZR2. I went to look at one a couple of months ago, thinking if I liked the new Colorado I would order a Trail Boss. When I looked at the ZR2 I realized it was pretty much ready to go off road as is. The lift, tires, lockers, some skid plates, the off road pages, etc. There was nothing I had to do to it, unlike almost any other truck I've bought in the past. I brought it home with me. I kind of consider it the Colorado version of a Raptor, or at least close to it. Loving the truck so far.
Saw a zr2 Colorado at Home Depot. It really looks badass compared to any midsize truck. No mistaking it as anything else.
It's a TRUE factory-built offroader. It can't do what it can't do, but what it CAN do has been made bulletproof.
The ac fan kicks on to get moisture out of the system so it doesn’t ever smell funky like old ac units.
I just rented the Nissan Frontier and I liked it. The one thing keeping it off my list though is that it is a direct injection engine with no port injection to keep the intake valves clean. The one I rented had only 14k miles on it and already had a rough idle, which can be a symptom of dirty intake valves. If I were to buy the Nissan, then I would definitely put a catch can on it.
The Tacoma has both direct and port injection which is one of the reasons it's on the top of my list.
The 3rd gen, with port injection was the most unrefined engine in the world
No recalls on my 2023 Canyon. Maybe I haven't been notified. You guy are awsome. Thank you for what you do.
There are recalls, 1 or 2 depending on your tailgate style, just not remedies available
Andre if you're worried about not having cruise control because it's an option wait until the future where the seats and steering wheel will be an option after base price.
My wife bought new Taco in 23, but if it was me I’d go for the Nissan. Still relatively simple.
My neighbor has a new Nissan truck, looks awesome. It's fully loaded. He got it for a steal.
Definitely something to be said for that
I am considering the Frontier too
You have a smart wife.
The 23 taco is still the old one correct still simple and nice
I took delivery of a 2024 Colorado Z71 just a few weeks ago. We've taken it on two road trips in the west (Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho) for a total of 2,500 miles. So far, it has been flawless. Lots of power over those two big summits on I-70 in Colorado. And better highway MPG than the EPA rating. Driving from 65 to 75 mpg we are getting 24 to 25 mpg. Not bad.
Thank you for this real life experience. I’m buying the GMC AT4 which is just super similar with more luxury
I owned GM trucks for 30 years, they work great for the first 3 years, all you have to do is change the oil, after that you start changing parts.
I doubt that
I'm on year 4 and 58,000 miles with my 2020 Silverado. Your claim isn't holding true so far.
I just
I had a 2018 Colorado. Put about 120,000 miles on it. The only part I ever had to replace was a thermostat. About a month ago I traded that in on a 2023 Colorado Z71. Love it so far.
Toyota fanboy LOL
Finding ref to "afterblow" page 145 in 2023 manual.
Afterblow Feature
If equipped, under certain conditions, the
fan may stay on or may turn on and off
several times after you turn off and lock the
vehicle. This is normal.
Amazing what you can learn when you read the owners manual! 🤦🏻♂️
Why does it do that though?
@@Smithizzle- helps to reduce mold by attempting to clear condensation on the evaporator.
I need to get my wife to read my manual for me again.
They have that on out the factory? My Cruze I had to spend like $35 to have it turned on.
Im so glad I snagged one of the very last 2nd gen Colorado WTs at the beginning of Feb 2023. One year and 20k miles, absolutely no issues whatsoever!
No cruise control on any new vehicle is insane!
Even the Mitsubishi Mirage has standard cruise control.
Yeah, this is almost as bad as when cars sold without radios or AC.
What's a radio? @@joebrito2066
All Canyon trim levels come with cruise control.
They all come with cruise. Andre ordered this one and missed a package.
This truck was used to help pull the failing 2024 Tacoma when they were having a face-off while "Off Roading" .
I am a *"Toyota Fan Boy"* so i'm very disappointed to have to report this 😒
Me too. 😞
That was hilarious! You’re correct by using “ “ around off roading. A little bit of snow and a tiny incline!
If you wheeled toyotas its typical lol
@@scotw67 😢 There are other threads under this video.
You didn't have to go out your way and *_"rub-it-in"_* 😶 ⬇️
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The price of those 2024 Tacomas are super expensive. Even for a base model , I can probably throw in another 5 grand and then get a low-end Silverado.
I like this truck and would buy one except for the lack of a longer box option and I’m not interested in so many of the controls being accessible only through the touch screen.
Just out of curiosity, how often do you mess with the headlights? Vehicle information is easily available through a shortcut and is no more complex than navigating the DIC with 4 arrows. So this is a non issue that is being blown way out of proportion. how about the fact that Toyota will sell you a vehicle with the hardware for command start but in order to use it you have to pay a monthly subscription, to use a button on your key fob!
Like the truck, its just long term reliability that worrys me. The torque and payload in a midsized truck, its tough to over look. Full size truck power in a smaller package I like. If they can improve reliability I may look into getting one in the future.
Crazy that the Colorado’s issues are really tied to technology issues rather than mechanical. If they really spent the time fixing the tech side correctly, this truck would stand out much more
Amen to that.
Mechanically this thing beats anything I've owned. Data and technology wise... It sucks,
Don't forget about cracked engine blocks that GM had to issue a massive recall for 😂
This is why I have always thought "over the air updates" for vehicles are ridiculous--because they can't possibly account for what you might or might not do to upgrade the vehicle. For a hundred years, we manufactured and drove vehicles without "over the air updates", and everything was fine...why do we suddenly need them now? I don't want the manufacture retaining an ongoing role with the vehicle after I've bought it.
Because there was nothing to update. It's for the computer software to p possibly give you new features, but mainly to keep it secure. I agree it is a bad idea, you should have to accept it and be set to update the next time you park the vehicle and keep the engine on so it can't kill the battery and shut down the engine once complete.
Tesla and rivian are proving OTA updates to be bug benefits. Both of those vehicles get better as you have them with feature and quality of interface updates.
well it should not be replacing entire software, or even if it does need to replace a lot there should be easy simple way how to upgrade feature list by VIN ... freaking 2024 people are under impression we humanity are so advancing, they call every little better working nonsense AI, but we still struggling with basic stuff
Most new startups (or non-legacy brands) utilize an electrical network architecture powered by a very capable CPU and sophisticated software designed by the best in the world in Silicon Valley. Legacy brands still rely on very old-fashioned architecture that relies on supplier control modules with designs dating back to the 1980s and not necessarily designed for flexibility but cost. Until legacy manufacturers scrap their current way of doing things, they will continue to struggle with their electrical architecture and software on new vehicles, and the technology gap will widen.
Big Brother prefers you comply.
Nathan has a very good point. We had a captiva for 10 years, numerous company cars, now a rav4. I'm the newest driver here and. Never ever had or heard of a back up camera failure. That should not happen in a new vehicle. Specially if visibility is poor and it's mandatory equipment (not the case over here) truck looks fine and all but that's just silly...
Andre - you have to install the cruise control switches and see whether or not a future update disables it ...Your loyal subscribers need to know.
I am watching you from Germany. I really like all of your TFL channels. Thank you for your work. I am driving a Hilux, Land Cruiser Prado and GRJ 76. Unfortunately all of your US Trucks are not really available in Europe because of our restrictive green government. Maybe I will buy me a house in Colorado, looks beautiful.
no cruise control in a 2023 model is wild
It does have it available. He opted to not select it. It's crazy the truck still works without it. Like people are incapable of driving themselves. 🙄
@All-Miles-Matter your opinion is noted, beta. Driving yourself is OK. The wussification is widespread now.
The sheeple needed their vehicles to do things for them, to make them fluff status symbols. And people wonder why accidenta have increased, insurance rates increased as well as vehicle prices. Can't survive without your heated seats and steering wheels either? Let men drive.
the saleman asked if he wanted sliding rear window . i dont think andre would say no , i dont think they asked him about CC they danced around it.@@elche1976
@@elche1976God forbid they ever try driving a manual transmission in a snowstorm uphill that is unplowed.
@@elche1976 when your paying 40 grand plus for a car there is no excuse not to have it at that price point. You don’t need to be a cunt.
Well maybe you do.
2023 Colerados in Canada are under a recall and stop sale for daytime running lights. Was supposed to pick up my ZR2 last week and they won't release it. Gm still has not got a software update to fix the recall. 37 days so far. Gm is pretty slow in getting things done.
Not an excuse by any means but the reason for that is probably due to the newly hired software engineers. I read they just hired ex Google and Apple employees if I'm not mistaken. The software in my canyon AT4 isn't terrible but it could use a little work
In toronto area..I never see any Colorado's on dealer lots for sale ..
@@andy51300 most coming in a direct order only. Not like the old days where the lots were full of different models to select from. Even if they do have stock they are all on a stop sale right now.
There are tons of full size trucks for sale on lots..Same goes goes for other places like toyota and ford,,Congrats on your ZR2!@@RobsKoiPond
I have the 2017 Colorado LT. 3.6L V6, full options. I absolutely love it. It has never given me any grief. It has needed nothing but gas and oil (and new brakes last year) since I bought it. I have heard some people have issues with the 8 speed transmission but it has always treated me well.
Is TFL going to invest in a Frontier Pro4X? I know a guy that has one and loves it. He had a previous gen Tacoma and he says the Frontier is superior. Thanks for sharing this video and investing in the Colorado!
I just bought a 2024 Silverado 1500 zr2 and love it. And especially love the active exhaust.
Cheers 🍻 I have the same rig but with the Duramax
Andre if it's a federal mandate that your car has to be equipped with a reverse camera and GM will not fix that For you they should replace your truck with a new truck since it is was new truck when it went out.
Maybe the techs should have ohm the wire to the camera both checking short, short to ground, and short to shielding. Doesn't take a special tool just a multimeter and competence which is very lacking in automotive shops these days. My list of issues with my AT4X
Cruise control the vehicle brakes for no reason, the display switches from miles per hour to kilometers on it's own, blind spot monitoring on passenger indicates something is there that isn't then when I pass a vehicle I doesn't even register, windshield whistles when going highway speeds, cameras sometimes just stop working, sunroof thumps whenever it rains, heat doesn't work unless setting above 78 degrees, and with trips that last more that 20 mins I get a really strong smell of burning motor oil.
Love the ride quality but way to many issues and time to move on. It really like the vehicle but can't live with so many issues on a new vehicle. If GM can't get right systems that have been around for over a decade then I am very worried for the super cruise
Pedestrians call it super bruise…
I purchased a GMC 2018 Canyon Denali with 2.8L Diesel engine which now has 45K miles on it. I've had 2 types of problems with mine. I had 4 problems with the DEF system in the first 12K miles and problem was finally resolved after the dealer replaced the entire DEF system. The other problem was the transmission. It developed a shudder and the dealer said the transmission could not be fixed and had to be replaced at $9,000. I opted to flush the transmission and replace the fluid. This fixed the shudder issue and it is now one of the smoothest shifting transmissions I've experienced.
Have owned four Tacoma's (and still own a 2019 TRD Sport) but went for a 2023 ZR2 for the simple reason of price. Got a fully loaded ZR2 (minus the Bose stereo - my fault as didn't check the box) for 53K and change. Absolutely love it (have 4K miles on it). Have only had one tech glitch but great otherwise. Did kick around waiting on the new Tacoma but to be equivalent I would have had to wait for a TRD Pro. I'm thinking they will be 65K plus for one of those when you put in the fact most dealers are going to price gouge.
I think calling the Trail Boss the upper level trim is incorrect. The Trail Boss is a WT with the off road package. The LT actually is the higher level trim without the off road additions. For the same price of the Trail Boss I got the LT fully loaded with heated seats and steering wheel, duel comfort zones, lane maintain, upgraded power seats, upgraded interior, tow package, upgraded engine, led lights, bed liner, bed cover, rear seat console and a finer interior trim. GM was looking at 2 different demographics with the Trail Boss an the LT but the LT can still off-road with upgrades if you want. It is just not semi-pro ready.
I know the new turbo Max engines circulate coolant through the turbo after you shut it down. Honestly I believe this is something that Toyota should have copied
After run pumps have been around for decades. So it's too new of technology for Toyota. 😅
That’s a great idea to let the turbo cool down when you turn the truck off
So Andre, if you could do it over, would you have purchased a ZR2?
Doesn’t have the payload/towing he wants
With the glare in the windows, it looks like they are taking a spin on Tatooine.. 😂
Bought one and have 5500 miles. Love it so far. I’ve definitely used my truck . Great off road and towing. Bugs I’ve experienced was a dead battery and It braked for me suddenly and scared the crap out of me 2times. . Other than that it’s a great truck
We can all blame our politicians for Screwing up our New Vehicles, With all of these Mostly ridiculous Safety systems required now, EVs etc, Trying to save people from themselves with computers drives me crazy, Yes I personally own two 2020 Vehicle's, At least I didn't overpay for any of this 🇺🇸.
Good luck what’s coming next after this is the transmission problems. Harsh shift up shifting from 1st gear to 2nd gear. Main problem with these trucks
I think the Colorado is better looking than the Tacoma. I love the color too. And the wrap was a good move. What I don't like about any of the mid sized trucks are the small fuel tanks. I tow a small camper. So the mid sized can all handle it. But when towing, the small tanks means limited range. Once you get 10 to 12 MPG towing, the range is unacceptable. I tend to take long camping trips, 6,000 to 12,000 miles (Alaska). Hot March day in Colorado? That fan running is totally unacceptable. Sounds like lemon law on that back up camera. And its ridiculous Chevy doesn't have cruise control standard.
I was going to buy a 24 Tacoma, and the breakdown video changed my mind. This video put the Colorado out of contention. Andre should have been provided with a loaner for the backup camera issue. Serious liability for GM if an injury occurs. I will just keep my 19 Tundra. Beyond a recall for light brightness, it has been trouble-free and has a usable bed.
I also got the 430# torque calibration for my Colorado Trail Boss , the difference is , I raced a Colorado ZR2 at a light here in Phoenix and barley stayed ahead of him, I think it’s because ZR2 has bigger heavier tires!
First time Chevy owner, first time pick up truck owner, bought a loaded up 2023 Colorado LT. Has all packages except for the convenience package three. Has both towing packages and the technology package. Just got it about five days ago. Had 7000 miles on it. It was originally purchased in 2024, even though it’s a 2023 model. I absolutely love it so far. This is coming from somebody who never wanted a pick up truck. I do have a boat and want to know in the future that if I got a camper, I could tow it. So far, I love it. It was packaged with the turbo plus.
Great straight truthful review. I am lucky to have a 2022 GMC 1500 that has had no problems in 17,000 miles.
I would have thought the cracked blocks should have been the elephant in the room....
I just love the looks of this truck.
Now that I've heard the backstory about when the truck was ordered, it sounds like that the whole cruise control issue can be traced back to a salesperson doing a lousy job of explaining what the different option packages included. That, OR, they did explain it and Andre consciously chose to save the money...but that's not how the story's being told, and I'm sure he'd admit it if he declined it intentionally. I can only imagine how much more positive Andre's experience with this truck would have been if the ordering process was done more competently.
Also, how have these guys not figured out that the 'glitchy' fan activity is the afterblow feature for the HVAC? RTFM, guys...lol. 😉
Agreed
Yep, the sales rep should have went over all of the package details and mentioned cruise control.
I'l get some haters, but I prefer my Honda Ridgeline. Just don't need body-on-frame for heavy payloads or towing. Love the smooth ride of the Ridgeline. It doesn't get enough respect.
I just picked up my 24 Colorado Z71 2 days ago! The best part about it, is that mine has cruise control!😂
Sorry Andre!
Hope you purchased an extended warranty.
Did you consider the Frontier with the big V6 (non turbo) engine?
Apparently you didn’t watch this video before you purchased your new truck😢
@@DH-mf2lv Only fools buy extended warrantees, as 99.9% of the time the warranty is more money than the possible repairs that you may or may not incur! Lol
@@DH-mf2lv Apparently you missed the video where Andre’s truck had to save the broken Toyota! Lol
I have been a Toyota guy for along time but now that I am in the market for a pickup I find myself liking the GMC Canyon but I admit I am worried about reliability.
I extensively researched midsized trucks, chose '23 Colorado ZR2. Coming up on 10k miles and ZERO issues. A joy to drive on, off road. Avg 22.5mpg on winters (Blizzaks) interstate 70-80mph. The 2.7LI4T is a BEAST.
Frontier Pro-4X definitely a better buy. I looked at all the mid-size trucks (except Ford) and bought the 2023 Frontier in Sept 2023. It has operated flawlessly and I love it. Will probably change to BFG AT TA KO's when I need tires!
TFL Andre the way I would spec my Colorado Trail Boss $42,040 MSRP
1) Convivence 1 - required for tech package comes with rear sliding window and cruise control, rear defrost
2) Convivence 2 - required for tech package comes with power driver seat, slow fall tailgate, tailgate storage
3) Safety package - REAR CROSS TRAFFIC BRAKING, outside heated power adjustable side mirrors, rear park assist beep, BLIND ZONE STEERING ASSIST WITH TRAILERING
4) Tecnology Package - ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL, HD SURROUND VISION, 360 cameras great for off-roading and parking, REAR PEDESTRIAN ALERT,
5) ADVANCED TRAILERING PACKAGE - INTEGRATED TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER, IN-VEHICLE TRAILERING APP, TRAILERING PACKAGE with receiver and 4/7 pin connector
The reason I would get this package is because I would add the skip plates, running boards, tonneau cover, floor liners, LED bulbs, Beg Rug, Weather Tech bed Liner, all later so not to have over $5K more on the 6yr truck loan.
guy sounds like me. "I ill never live this down" after not ordering cruise control on a new vehicle. I would literally lose sleep over that.But seriously, what NEW vehicle today does not come with CC? thats insane.
I have to agree with Nathan on the Nissan Frontier choice. It is a better mid sized truck overall.
Towing out the Taco, priceless.
Bought and sold a 23 Trail Boss in 6 months. Way to many "technology" issues and the dealer really didn't seem to care. Issues were either declared as normal or they couldn't duplicate them so no action was taken...great looking truck but I don't miss it at all.
Dont believe you. I have a 23 Canyon Denali with 16k and have had no issues. Troll somewhere else
@@thewireman134his comment seems legit to me.
What "technology" issues are you talking about?
What issues with the tech did you actually have?
Why wouldn’t you believe him? Andre had a “technology” issue on his. Google the shit there are countless stories of screen issues and more.
Andrey and Nathan, really good and informative video! Thanks.
The blower motor running after shut down is called "after blow". It drys off the evaporator core to prevent the musty smell from the vents.
Colorado ZR2 is the best looking midsize/small truck & the only one I’d consider besides a Ranger Raptor
Andre! You should be able to get In contact with your dealership and they can contact techline connect and should be able to put cruse control on your truck, it would be a vin specific upgrade I believe it would be possible
The Colorado is very nice, I just don’t trust GM reliability.
Honestly every manufacturer has so many issues with each car built. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don’t.
Agreed. They aren't reliable. Too make short term issues and horrible longevity. Might be why the company is struggling financially. Rumors are they may bankrupt AGAIN if they continue with their ways
I think I would go the Frontier SV long bed route if I was looking for a mid size. You can get that for around $35k new.
This engine is a BOSS though.. and you get Google on board. No way with the Nissan
Why is google in your truck seen as a good thing? Genuinely asking.
@@thewireman134ehh no lol gm quality control is so bad now it's not good. Stupidity of putting everything on a touch screen....
@@crisikingful it works fine for 16k. I don't see the issue... stop looking for faults that aren't there
@@thewireman134 lmao nah you should stop 😂 I've delt with gms quality and so have my friends and co worker had to work on them as well wtf from die hard bow ties now they're burning trash 😂
We have a new Canyon AT4 our son drives (couldn't find a Trail Boss), I love it's capability and it drives confidently with lots of low end torque plus it's refreshing not driving a full size truck around town but the second row cabin space is horrible, can't have it all I guess. No issues with it though.
what’s horrible about the second row i’m curious, there’s AC vents which most mid sizes don’t have especially frontier / tacoma
and i’ve owned a tacoma and i consider comfortability subpar. frontier was even tighter. but never tried a canyon
@@alexanderradec Good point, this is our first mid-size truck so I'm comparing second row space to other smaller SUVs and I usually drive the family around in a full size truck. I'm sure space is limited back there in all mid-size trucks.
Same truck here, I do agree that I wish they could've given just a few more inches of leg room but it's not anything in upset over. Better under seat and behind rear seat storage would've been really nice. Or at least a fold down backrest
I ordered a 2024 Canyon in late December. Hope it shows up sometime this year...
@@joegrahe3958 yeah I got lucky and found one arriving pretty local to me and it was exactly how I wanted with no markup. Worked out great
In 2022, when I heard about all the technology GM was adding to the 2023 Canyon/Colorado, I knew I didn't want what they were selling because I don't need that much technology in a truck. I also don't like the trend of car manufacturers to take away options and charge more for technology and make customers pay subscription fees. I found a 2016 Canyon extended cab with a long box and a manual transmission at a decent price. It has a naturally aspirated 4-cylinder engine that is too quiet, and I couldn't hear the engine when driving. I replaced the muffler with a Cherrybomb Vortex, and now I can hear the engine when shifting gears and fuel economy improved by about 2 MPG. I also need towing mirrors from Boost Autoparts because they are more "boxy" compared to the ClearView towing mirrors.
Same for me. I read the upcoming reviews and decided that I didn't need a restyle or a high-tech simulated gauge cluster. And I wanted the long bed. So I got off my butt and bought a 2022 while I still could. The 2.5L is arguably a touch underpowered, but I didn't buy mine for mud bogging or towing a fifth wheel. I rationalize that good fuel economy is more important than being able to rush from traffic lights anyway.
@Avo7bProject The 4-cylinder is definitely underpowered, and I think that is why the previous owner sold the truck I bought. When I was driving it home, I had to downshift to 3rd or 2nd gear to get up steep hills with cars riding my bumper. But my previous truck was a 2002 Sonoma with a 4.3L V6, and I plan to engine swap the older port injected 4.3L V6 into my 2016 Canyon with a Tremic transmission. If a naturally aspirated small displacement 4-cylinder engine struggles to move a modern mid-sized truck when empty, then the engine is not powerful enough. You can add a turbo to increase horsepower and torque, but I think the engine will be working too hard most of the time. I never had any problems with the 4.3L V6 and I think I can get decent horsepower/torque and still get good fuel economy because the motor doesn't have to work as hard as a smaller displacement engine.
Andre. Your truck looks so Mean! I got my new Sierra, but want your truck now!😮
In February the automaker ordered dealerships to stop selling the 2023 Colorado and Canyon trucks that were already on dealer lots until problems could be fixed. Sounds like you are one of the lucky ones not to have too many issues.
That interior fan event is a feature - It's called "Afterblow." It keeps your HVAC from getting smelly due to the condensation from the A/C causing mold.
I agree with Nathan 100%
I would consider myself lucky if the rear backup camera in my Ford F250 didn't work, I can't stand it at night time trying to back up a trailer because the screen floods the interior with so much light it makes it hard to see my mirrors, I have a note book in my center console I use to cover the screen for that reason, I wish manufacturers would put a button on the dash to turn the screen off when it becomes a inconvenience like that.
Way to much light, carry a bigger micro fiber towel to put over it. '21 Gladiator..1st vehicle with a backup camera.
You can probably dim the screen… lol
@@BossMan_Jerm it's at its lowest dim setting
Mirrors? What are mirrors? LOL.
You are very blessed. Everyone else has not been that fortunate. Did you by chance look at a Frontier Pro model with the V6 engine? I know a guy that had a previous gen Tacoma. He likes the Frontier much more. I (personally) still prefer a full size truck with a V8 engine.
Thank you for your videos. I have worked for jeep for over 30 years and seen your videos about the trail boss. We do not have a mid size truck except the jeep gladiator and would not purchase another one because of the price point and continue to replace windshields. I did purchase a trail boss and love it so far. I was looking at Tacomas but they raised the price so much I couldn't justify spending that kind of money. The trail boss is everything I need looks great very comfortable and couldn't pass up the price point on this truck. Thanks again for all your reviews on the trail boss.
Love your outdoor podcasts!
Andre do a transmission flush and get a sample to have fluid tested. Be interested to see results of fluid comparison to new fluid.
Yeah I'd like to see comparative samples from several trucks with varies miles
Exactly, my torque converter started to fail and shutter around 50,000 kms on my 2017.
Time will tell if they fixed the issue.
Just remember guys, TFL has no problems discussing, in nauseating detail, the issues with the colorado but did you hear Andre saying "can we talk about the tacoma" when he mentioned the colorado pulling it out. Toyota seems to have a bug up their butt, TFL appears to be terrified of them lol.
agree. feel like they are crapping on the colorado a little bit. now, i may be biased, but my 23 z71 has been fantastic and i have not had the problems andre has had. i turned off the OTA updates and never suffered the problem. just check the updates when i get my oil and tires rotated. best vehicle i have ever owned. the z71 also comes with more features standard. i believe the z71 is most comparable to the trd off road, but 5k cheaper. i got several options/packages with my z71 and it came out to the same price as their base trd off road. even with the mid tuned engine, it is still class leading until the raptor and trd pro come out.
Nothing interrupts the toyogasm...not even facts.
@@jedioutcast888 Hahahahha..when your transmission, driveshaft, and electric die, and they will before 50,000 miles get back with us.......Consumer Reports has documented all these problems.....worst small truck out there SUCKER.
@@chadhaire1711 feel better now that you got that out? Glad you contributed to the conversation. I know i learned my lesson.
@@jedioutcast888 You wont be so glad when the warranty is out on that Colorado...but when it breaks down you can stay at home and workout as you watch more Mike Glover and Warrior Poet videos.....two of the biggest internet gun clowns on the tube--surprised you passed on their blowhard pal Larry Vickers, the 3 stooges. Have a great day. Been fun.
Your review of the Colorado was well done, and makes me happy that I bought my Honda Ridgeline. Now let me qualify by saying I do not off-road. I do not tow with my truck, or NART if you prefer. my truck has a gross vehicle carrying weight of 1499 compared to Andres 1514 and my bed although lower which is easier to reach over is 2 inches longer. I have friends that have the Colorado and love it but they do different things with theirs. Best of luck with your truck, and from the information you guys have provided me over the years help me make my decision to buy my Honda. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the up date guys!
I have never been a midsize truck myself, However i am highly impressed wit the value of the Trail Boss,Performance, Towing Capability. All this at a price point of under 40k in the current market and some regions, is still a lot of value. I just wish you could order this trim level with heated seats, but it is. a more base work trim level. The whole needing GM TO flash a tune for 650 is insane though.
In 2001, I bought a used 2000 Sierra that did not have cruise control. I went to a local custom car shop that put in an aftermarket cruise control. It was basically a separate control on the side of the steering wheel, but it worked, was cheap and I didn't have to reprogram anything or change the steering wheel. Not sure if thats an option anymore with new trucks.
If you think about it from Toyota's prospective, you couldn't have a worse video for them then what happened. There entire reputation is built on being much more reliable then the competition and it blows a diff on a simple obstacle. Worse still it has to be pulled out by the competition.
Honestly, I'm glad I held on to my 2021 ZR2. No OTA and I'm actually glad!
I’ve had several Tyger bed covers and all of them have been durable long lasting and affordable. I just purchased my 4th one for my ram 2500 and got the same tri-fold Andrei has here in this video. Installs quick and removal is a breeze if needed.
Not sure why everyone keeps complaining about the engine sound. The turbo whirls at low RPM sound rad.
Andre nice truck great video however I need cruise control to drive long trip on highways
I liked the look of the new Colorado - I almost ordered a 2023 Z71 Colorado but was very concerned about GM quality as I have had many issues with them. Have bought 5 Toyotas in the last 14 years only had 2 issues with them in over 300,000 miles. 1 fix under warranty which was rims oxidized and 1 air conditioner that was out of warranty at 63,000 miles and Toyota fixed it free of charge anyway. I did end up buying a 2022 Canyon Elevation Premium package 4x4 in Feb 2023. First GM vehicle in 14 years. Thought it wouldnt have any issues since it has been built the same for years - but had front end leak at 12,000 miles and have battled squeaking, clunking in the rear end and creaking in the front end since 3500 miles. I found Service bulletin for Clip change in rear differential = did not fix, replaced passenger side drive shaft = did not fix, after research for clunking i put rubber pads in the leaf springs = fixed 70% of clunking, next bulletin i printed out and had dealer re-torque all the bolts on the leaf spring = fixed the clunking, but still has a rattle noise coming from the rear differential area = no fix and wrote a long letter to the CEO of GMC to threaten GM with lemon law - told me rattling and loose rear end noise is normal - no other truck ive owned had this noise. the squeaking noise ended up being the E-Brake line rubbing against something causing an annoying & loud squeak as I drove a good dealer mechanic found this and wire tied this away to prevent contact = no squeak after listening to this for 8000 miles. GM does not fix known complaints so i am Leary of my purchase. I would buy the Nissan Frontier next, New Tacoma is to expensive for what it is. Hopefully Honda ups the capability and looks of the 2025 Ridgeline and i would highly consider this - i need it to tow 4800 lbs with some larger weight capacity room
It seems like a pretty solid truck. The "cruise control" thing sucks big time, makes no sense, except to make the buyer upgrade to the higher trim. Most car companies play games like that nowadays.
My 2019 RST Colorado has had zero issues since I bought it new off the trailer. I paid $34K and got 20 inch rims, 35 inch Bridgestone Dueller tires, full size matching spare, luxury package, the entertainment package, heated seats and steering wheel, full black leather interior, biggest touchscreen they offered at the time, V6. And it has cruise control. It's too bad he isn't as happy with his as I am with mine. As far as I am concerned, for a guy who isn't pulling a trailer, it's the perfect truck.
I’ve had my 23 ZR2 now for about 4 months now. I love it so far. I haven’t had it long enough to give a full review but there’s things I love and things I hate. What I love is how ready it was off the lot. I was looking at a trail boss but it doesn’t have nearly half the features the ZR2 comes with. And I was originally dead set on the tacomas but didn’t want that because it felt the price wasn’t get as much out of it as the ZR2 was. What I don’t like is some of the features are locked in on the screen when I would like for it to just be a button by my knee or something. It’s my daily driver and my hobby truck. I love it as of now. I’m just hoping it last as long as the Toyotas do.
You want a bit better MPG, go add 4 psi. Your screen shown 33/34 at 54f outside. You could get away just fine with 38psi, but as spring/summer approaches. you'll need to decide to let them go up to 40 and air down as the days/nights get warmer to keep them there. I have a '23 ZR2 and the 285/70R17 and run 37, but thinking of bumping them up.
I did a stress test run to Seattle and back and in the cold, they got down to 32/33 naturally with the 31-33f air. I wanted the lower pressure to air down them just a bit on their own for the slush on 25 and 90 heading west.
Sorry to hear of the issues. Sadly they happen. I am happy to say I have had no issues with my 2023 Colorado ZR2. Love mine. Cruise control should be on everything as standard.
Andres blue power boost was the best truck imo
So, what happens if you put that truck outside in the hot air and not drive it for a week? Does the HVAC fan kick on and off until it kills your battery? I don’t like things that run when the engine isn’t, at least after a few minutes of being shut off.
Maybe it’s smart enough to stop if the battery gets below a certain voltage? 🤷🏼♂️
Especially up north where we go from 80 to 20 overnight, sounds like a jump to me
People drive this in Arizona where it's over 115°in the Summer. It's OK. The Silverado has had this over 5 years.
So when's the embargo up on the FORD RANGER
They unveiled the ranger raptor 9 months ago still can't get it 😂
I’m SO GLAD I passed on the ZR2 I ordered.
The recurring theme in the comments seems to be to buy a frontier, lol. I considered this truck because of its capability and value. I was worried about reliability. Seems to be a problem. I used to say all these tech issues your having Andre could be fixed and ironed out. Then i heard about the cracked blocks.
Problem with frontiers they are throw away vehicles. After 75k miles engines take a dump! Ask any mechanic they will tell you..
Colorado and Canyon look pretty good. Sure they have similarities to Tacoma but still very different. With the trail boss I just think with a mid tier trim, chevy could’ve made led headlights standard and gave it a dampened tailgate and cruise control. The cost increase would’ve been negligible.
$41,000 truck with no cruise control standard from the factory? that’s dumb
I have an 07 Colorado with the 5 cyl and love it. I have cruise control and have NEVER used it
Had a similar problem with my 23 Ram where it took 4 repair attempts before they fixed some bad startup noise and low mpg. Was very close to invoking my state's lemon law.
What was the reason for both issues. I’m having similar issues with my 19
@@Hondatitan69If the dealer can be believed the factory installed the belt wrong and it damaged some pulleys and/or the water pump.
Interesting to listen to. I bought mine about 2 weeks before TFL got theirs. 15k with no issues. 14.9mpg due to a lot of towing a wake boat.
Andre is the go to joke for not having cruise. LOL. I do feel the pain with GM quality, My 2024 Silverado has problems which should not be with 80K truck.
What issues? Even the 2024 Tundra has problems.
I have a 2024 gmc canyon at4 and have no issues. My only gripe is the wireless charging, but it came with the package. My truck has been awesome in the off roading in deep sand on the beach with the stock, Goodyear territory A-T tires. I get good fuel economy for a truck the same or maybe a little better sometimes than my Roush Ranger that I had. I get 19 to 20 in combination of city and highway driving and if I’m on a trip using mostly interstate I’ve seen 23 MPG. A lot of that depends on how aggressive you are with the throttle and how fast your traveling between 65 and 70 MPH is where I got those numbers occasionally 75 mph.