The EV6 GT and the Model Y Performance dressed up in red and put on quite a show, offering speed and performance you wouldn't expect from an SUV. What do you think we should race them against next? Let us know in the comments below!
I want to see you race a new Tesla Model 3 Performance but set it up properly. Track Mode destroys straight-line performance because it cools the battery. You should have left it in normal mode and preconditioned the battery by navigating to a Supercharger for 10-15 minutes. That will give you optimal performance if you have enough SOC. A Tesla Model Y Performance typically does the 1/4 in less than 12 seconds. It is absurd that you are running so slow in yours. That really misrepresents what this car is capable of.
@@bigdi77 yes, both of these cars weren’t performing like they should that is true. However, they actually put the EV6 into the optimal mode. They put the Model Y in the worst mode. I wish they would just ask people how to test these cars properly. It looks so bad when they post absurdly slow times.
You guys should do this test more often. It's a great way to compare performance relatively easily. Would love to see the EV6 gobble up more competition
EV6 GT FTW. I had a Model 3P, my fiancé has a Y, and now I have an EV6 GT. The GT is my favorite EV currently available for a few reasons. Charging speed is insane, ride quality is so much better than any Model Y or Model 3 thanks to the adaptive dampers, it’s reasonably priced compared to any other car offering the insane performance it has, active rear differential makes a huge difference when you drive it hard on a curvy road, and it has so much more stuff that Tesla doesn’t offer like a heads up display, cross traffic detection, real blindspot monitoring, CarPlay and Android Auto, adaptive dampers, sport seats, an actual sunroof, and it’s just simply more enjoyable to drive or be a passenger in. I love the V2L abilities, too. The rear 110V outlet is useful for charging laptops or other devices, and you can even power things like a microwave with the V2L adapter.
@@volcalstonewhat did your price come out to if you don't mind me asking? Did you lease or finance and what do your payments look like? I'm checking out a local dealer and I want to see how much others are paying for their GT!
@@ethan5902 it was a little over $50K before taxes and $3K down. I wanted to lease only cause it's an EV. That guaranteed residue value is vital in case they decide to lower the price big time later like what Telsa did a year ago. 2 years only as the MF was better. My payment is around $550. If I would've gotten this car a year ago the payments would've been around $1K or so cause there were no deals and markups were still a thing. For the price I can't complain. If I love it enough in 2 years I will be keeping it tho. At the end I could've done better but I didn't want to spend anymore time on it as the price was fine to me. I sure now there are better deals to be had. Goodluck and if you end up getting one you won't be disappointed. 😊
Fun Fact: Tesla’s Track Mode is the single worst thing you can do for Straight-line acceleration. It will cool the battery off and consume power unnecessarily. A cold battery destroys straight line acceleration for the Tesla Model 3/Y. It is meant for road course driving where prolonged accelerations and decelerations will cause extreme motor/battery heating. This short run you are doing barely heats the battery at all. Also Track Mode does absolutely nothing for Traction with the wheel straight. It doesn’t affect handling unless you are turning the wheel. You crippled the Tesla unnecessarily by putting it in Track Mode.
@@letdothisman1139 I checked the Dragy leaderboard and there were plenty of people with sub 12 second 1/4 mile times. I don’t know why Edmunds made theirs so slow?
@@bigdi77 yes, that is correct. However, they setup the EV6 correctly and it didn’t perform well. They intentionally put the Model Y in the worst mode possible for acceleration. I just want to see them test them fairly.
@bamafam he is bringing the new 2024 Model 3 Performance that has the "Plaid" code (T like tri motor) in its VIN. It's most probably not tri motor but a big step up in power, brakes, tires seats and visual identity with wide body kit and a badge (plaid?)
I like the EV6 GT a lot, but the Tesla is about $10K less expensive and it has about 50% more range than the EV6. Also, the EV6 probably has dealer markups which makes cost delta even larger.
@@philippeferreiradesousa4524look clown. You’re referencing a price for an entirely different model y. The car is 53k but to have the same Highway driving autonomy it needs the $6k autopilot tacked on
@@mattbrew11 Look clown, the 6k option is for enhanced autopilot, all Teslas come standard with basic autopilot for highways. And also no, the Model Y Performance starts at around 45k, so even with the 6k option is still cheaper than the kia. Hell you could buy the 12k FSD option and it would still be cheaper
@@mattbrew11 Basic autopilot is included in all Teslas and is comparable to Kia’s Highway Driving Assist doing traffic-aware cruise control + autosteer. The $6k option you mention is Enhanced Autopilot that let’s the car route you through highway on-ramp / off-ramp, automatic lane changes, navigating interchanges and taking exits + autopark and summoning the car while outside
You can get an EV6 GT over here for nearly the same price as the Tesla now, and range isn’t actually that far apart. I normally get 240-260 miles a charge on my GT. I even do a GT mode launch maybe once every other day. It’s a great car!
Stop using track mode for Tesla drag races. This has been proven to make the vehicle's performance in drag races worse. Just charge to 100%, precondition the battery, put it in sport mode, and floor it.
Knowing Edmunds, wouldn’t surprise me the Model Y SOC was at 30% like all their other Tesla races. Model Y Performance 1/4 mile should be in the high 11.
@@tvbi it was at 91 percent at the start of race 1 according to the race 1 prep portion. And I also agree the race should be attempted with track mode off.
@@edmundscars If this is the "future," we clearly have gone wrong somewhere in time and we have to go back. These cars are lame, boring and exhibit zero personality.
I looked at buying the EV6 GT and ending up going with the EV6 GT-Line AWD. Reason being was range and comfort. The EV6 Gt-Line is plenty fast at 0-60 in a little over 4 seconds and it has much more comfortable seats that are not manually adjusted like the GT and it gets about 275 mile in range and looks just as good and is very comfortable to drive.
@@GTownSingerHow is it not practical for everyday driving? This is not a track car, it’s a very fast, comfortable crossover. I have one and I use it for everything - and it works perfectly fine. I find the seats to be very comfortable. It’s the first car I have owned that does not give me a sore butt after 1.5-2 hours of driving. Who cares if they’re manual, I have never understood that complaint. The ride in Eco or Normal is firm, but not uncomfortable at all. I also get way better range than the EPA rating. Nothing wrong with the standard EV 6, but this thing is a bullet and I love it.
@michaelc2254 the range sucks and the fact that for the price you don't get ventilated or powered seats was a deal breaker for me. The GT-LINE is the best trim and most features for the price. And plenty fast. Hardly ever use it in sport mode. But if you are looking for a track car or race people at every stop light lol, then it makes sense to choose the GT. Glad we both enjoy our cars. KIA ain't playin with these beotches.
@@GTownSinger The range on mine doesn’t suck at all. The last time I charged to 100% my projected range was 299 miles..and I find the range projection to be quite accurate. I drive mostly in Normal mode with enough GT blasts to keep me happy. I have been shocked at the range I’ve been getting.
I picked up a Model Y Performance earlier this year. Really considered the EV6 GT. I like the look significantly better of the Kia, also honestly the interior too and some of the options there. Though the Tesla is $10k cheaper, far better storage, far better range, far better charging network (at least for now). I mean it's really hard to not go with the Y at just a drop slower but still ridiculously fast.
I don't trust Kia's tech or their practices of cutting corners to offset the cost of loading the car up and making it feel well appointed inside. I also trust Tesla to do tech better than a car company can do tech.
Glad you like your vehicle. But would disagree with your points. Many will have chargers at home so the charging network will be less of an issue and the Kia actually charges faster than the Tesla (10~80% in 18 min and it might be ~20 min in the Tesla). Having all of your buttons and features in a screen is insane and less safe, the build quality on Teslas are notoriously shoddy, no heated and cooled seats, the inability to shade the moonroof is such a massive design flaw. Yes, styling is subjective, and I study design/auto design and find the Tesla Model Y to be one of the worst looking vehicles (Not quite Aztek bad, but not far off the Accord Crosstour, BMW X6..). Many find the Tesla Model Y ride to be too harsh as well whereas the Kia has the Goldilocks ride. As long as you enjoy it, good for you.
To add to my previous comment, others have also added the Kia has a heads up display, cross traffic detection, real blindspot monitoring, CarPlay and Android Auto, adaptive dampers, sport seats, an actual sunroof...the list goes on. But the styling of the styling of the Tesla Model Y always reminded me of a dolphin for whatever reason. The Model S isn't bad, but everything in Tesla's lineup isn't inspiring and I find the interior to be of poor quality and lazy design. I mean seriously, just slap a screen on the dash and call it a day. It's actually quite awful...
Depends on if they run the Teslas right I guess. I don’t know what they are doing with their MYP but those results are very slow. My 23 MYP runs consistent 11.7’s in the 1/4 in stock form. Most of the M3P’s when properly set up run 11.4-11.3 in stock form.
Not a good choice in my opinion if you consider everything. Considerably more expensive than the Model Y and the Model Y has much better range than the GT and a way better charging network. Better software/ UI. At the end of the day a tiny bit faster isn't worth the shortcomings of the EV6. I will say that the EV6 is cooler looking style wise though
Did you guys bring the split screen down in ev settings and click on Max power mode and allow the ev6 gt to be pulling the full 576 as most reviewers have not done this and dont realise they are not getting the full power even when pressing GT. You dont want it to be spinning too much as it will slow you down and also regen needs ot be zero.
@@philippeferreiradesousa4524 sure, but that's a slightly misleading basis for comparison without qualification because not everyone qualifies for the credit either because their income is too high or too low (meaning they don't pay enough tax for the offset to work), hence I just went with list price. But definitely for a lot of people the Tesla is even cheaper, as you say
@@JohnLee-db9zt that's not true. The GT-Line starts from $53k but that's not the car shown here (and it only has 225hp and 258lb-ft torque). The GT AWD shown here starts from $61k
@@philippeferreiradesousa4524leasing the Kia everyone qualifies for the $7500 as Kia passes 100% on. Tesla passes some. A bare bones Y performance would only be $4000 less leasing over 4 years even though it costs $9k less initially.
@@JohnLee-db9zt when Tesla owners lose a race they will move the goalpost by saying range this and range that but I am getting 250 miles on my gt that’s why I just 😂
As a Model Y Performance owner, I think Hyundai/Kia has done what most other traditional companies still miss on. They produce a vehicle that was built for EV and continue to improve on it. The new Hyundai Ionic 5 N is absolutely mind-blowing for a Korean car.
You're comparing a 2023 Kia EV6 GT against a 2020 Model Y? Considerable improvements have been made since the 2020 model. Lets keep it fair and match it against a 2023 Model Y. The Model Y 2023 Performance is considerably cheaper by about $10,000 than the 2023 Kia. Its not just about performance either. The model Y has considerably more cargo capacity at 72 cu. ft versus 50.2 for the Kia. And a very paltry and disappointing EPA estimated range of 218 miles versus Model Y EPA estimated 303 miles.
EV6 GT is a sharp looking car. Def better looking than the model Y in my opinion, but I've seen the Y perform much better than the time shown. Usually in the low 12s and for the 10k saving in price over the Kia its a no brainer. You could also save more and get a model Y long range with Acceleration boost and be as fast as the Y if not faster and save another 3-4k.
Easy win for the Kia. That gap would get even wider as the charge decreases. Kia is one of the very few EV's that doesn't lose performance when the battery goes down.
See an EV6 GT in person with those big yellow calipers and you can tell its sporty. I had one beside me the other day and was impressed, Between that and the Stinger KIA deserve some cred.
Knowing Edmunds, wouldn’t surprise me the Model Y SOC was at 30% like all their other Tesla races. Model Y Performance 1/4 mile should be in the high 11.
Hi @tvbi, love your eye for detail. When the cars run they’re always close to full charge. We shoot a lot of the launch control close-up shots of the dash separate to the race.
@edmundscars But then you run it in Track Mode, which is proven to perform slower when it comes to drag races. You didn't precondition the battery, which gives it a significant improvement in performance. If you are going to pit two vehicles in a performance race, actually put both vehicles in their best settings.
One of the designers said it was done on purpose. Something about keeping the weight down and also keeping fast charging times. 10% to 80% in 18 minutes. Of course, only if you can find the right fast charger.
@@erickirshner2810 I dont necessarily disagree, but remember the EPA rates range on a combined city/highway cycle, so if traveling purely on the highway range will be potentially 10-20% less.
@@ALMX5DP I have one and I get way better range than the EPA rating. On the highway if I keep it at 70 or lower I have gotten 250+ miles per charge. Around town I get close to 300. If you drive with a lead foot the range will go down, but the car is capable of very good range if driven a little conservatively. And GT mode will push your eyeballs back in your head. I love the car.
Both nice cars. I prefer the Y for a few reasons, cost being one of them. Currently, the Y Performance is $43 ($51k-$7500 at purchase) and 1.99% financing (.99 when I purchased). The EV6 is not $20k better to me.
The EV6 would have been quicker if you would have just used GT mode with stability control turned on. You lost a lot of time spinning the tires at launch.
And having the regen set to off or 0. I see this a lot with these tests, they have ipedal or level 3 regen on. I don't know how much it effects it, but it can't help.
Strange results from the Model Y performance. Granted, the EV6 still would win with that 120 mph trap speed, but 11.9 at 115 is typical for a model Y performance at full charge. Now, the Tesla is very susceptible to lower performance the lower the battery charge is... I wonder what the state of charge of the Model Y performance was at the time of the test?
You were saying how much better the Tesla did in the U-turn corner section, but didn't you still have 10% traction control on the Tesla (their minimum I think you said) whereas you completely turned off all stability and traction on the GT... the GT would be better in the corner with those enabled...
What kind of turn in was that for both cars on race two lol. One went deep and the other apex'd so early. Either way, pretty cool. Glad to see other manufacturers do something with EV's that aren't trash.
This is why Tesla needs to update their motor, it’s been years using the same motor. Luckily it looks like a new performance model 3 is coming that’s even faster then the previous model 3 performance, which would translate to a new model y performance coming soon as well.
@@Victor-vj5ds where do they constantly upgrade? Cause it’s definitely not in the performance department. The EV6 GT is faster hands down, off the line. You can get the best driver In the world for both cars and GT would still win. This just goes to show you competition is good and that Tesla is finally waking up and upgrading their motors for the next model 3 performance and eventually model y. Because they didn’t have true competition for years, they barely focused on upgrading their performance.
@T3chAndThings teslas carbon wrapped motor they use for the plaid drive train and Tesla semi truck offer superior performance than what the EV6 uses. It goes 0-60 in 2.1 seconds with rollout and 1.9 seconds without. The plaid can also hit 200mph in 21 seconds. Tesla recently upgraded its motors for the mode y thats smaller, more efficient, and cheaper to make.
@@Victor-vj5ds you do know we are talking about model 3 and y here, to the EV6 right? Don’t compare the EV6 to the S, those are completely two different sized cars. And like I’ve stated before Tesla hasn’t updated their motors for better performance, and it shows here. That’s why I originally said the new model 3 performance will finally be faster because of a new motor.
@T3chAndThings i just told you that the model y just got an upgrade for its motors, they are lighter and more efficient, that is part of preformance, their were upgrades in the last few years for the modelby and 3.
How did the MYP go from $52,490 actual MSRP to $68,790 price as tested? For $53k, you can get either the MYP or the EV6 Wind, not EV6 GT, so you should compare those 2 models. See what a Tesla can do for $53k, see what Kia can do for the same $53k.
Why is Edmunds testing against a 4 year old Model Y? Tesla upgraded the rear motor to one with hairpin windings since then. And why do they not show the current price for the Model Y Performance ($52,490)? I would say the current price is more relevant than what they might have paid years ago. Love the EV6 GT, but if you’re going to compare cars, do it right with up to date information and models.
Great performance from the Kia. I still would never buy one for a whole list of reasons. They did a good job bench marking the MYP. The new performance models from Tesla are just a few months away. It will be interesting to see how Tesla responds to the benchmarking.
I have a Model 3 Performance and just ordered a Model Y Performance for the wife. The December price drop was significant enough for us to make it appealing to purchase one. After discounts and the tax rebate it ended up being $42,000. This is a big drop in price from last year when my cousin paid $65,000.
I really miss my Kia EV6 GT-LINE 😢 I had and accident that totaled the car and the shop had my car for 14 months and they just totaled it out early last month I had the same color and everything I was tempting to get the Tesla Y model but now I think I'll get another Kia EV6 GT-LINE 2023. 😂😂😂. That is after Kia Dealership pays me for going past the statute of limitation with my vehicle🤨🤨🤨
Another great video. How the Model Y ties in time with the Dodge Black Ghost is head scratching. I know Dodge is strong in straight line vs curves but feel that something was not right. Those cars are sunsetting but still this Dodge is a beast which should’ve had lower/better times in this type of race.
I have a feeling that Musk won't let this happen again in the rematch. The best thing about this U-Drag was no redundant POV at the end. More U-Drags please.
EV6 is nicer looking, clearly faster which is a given. People generally don’t consider the the fact the Model Y is a 2019 car (released in 2020 but developed before then.) generally competitors use the competition as a baseline in their development. Y is just dated at this point. Needs an update. The Tesla software is still far superior, but it’s awesome to see Kia actually have a huge competitor. Respect.
As a former Kia E Niro owner I went to purchase a EV6, but the dealer had NONE, wanted an outrageous markup on it to order, and even wanted + sticker for a GT line model. I purchased a MY performance and couldn’t be happier, the purchase experience was fantastic even for a n old guy like me. And the charging experience vs non teslas is no comparison. The Kia was definitely more stylish, and has a more traditional interior but as my everyday commuter the Tesla is miles ahead with range and charging convenience. If I want driver involvement I will take my Porsche GT4 out of the garage.
You’ve got to use regen set to 0, and some even say drift mode on as well for the Kia. There’s a good bit of KW not accessible to you unless regen is off.
I'm confiused.. You say "the tires on the EV6 are not as grippy" - Isn't it usually delivered with Michelin Pilot Sport S - basically the best you could get? You also say "the brakes on the EV6 are not as good" - it was tested from 100km/h to zero in 32 meters - which is top notch. Do you have a differently spec'd version?
@@torontobeachliving8719 awful? While I have the Pilot Sport S on the Kia (as it was shipped with those and I really like em), I got Eagle F1 Asymmetrics an all my other cars, which I love. It's my favorite summer tire for eating tarmac. But maybe it's different with EV-style tires? Kia's default winter tire was Pirelli Scorpion Winter 2. Slightly wet streets and off you go... Swapped em after 500km with Bridgestone 255/40 R21 102V XL EVc (Wi) Blizzak LM 005 - really happy with those so far. Even tire noise is much better with the Blizzaks (the Scorpions were noticeably louder than the Pilot Sport S - ok, winter tires are usually louder then summer ones, but I didn't notice a difference between the Pilot Sport S and the Blizzak). IMHO it's always a bad sign if a tire is marketed with "low fuel consumption" as this usually goes hand in hand with "low grip".
This is a bit misleading. The Kia is a 2023 and the tesla is a 2020. The price of a 2023 model Y performance is under $55k unless you add FSD. Whether malice or shoddy reporting, this calls into question everything you publish.
The EV6 GT and the Model Y Performance dressed up in red and put on quite a show, offering speed and performance you wouldn't expect from an SUV. What do you think we should race them against next? Let us know in the comments below!
I want to see you race a new Tesla Model 3 Performance but set it up properly. Track Mode destroys straight-line performance because it cools the battery. You should have left it in normal mode and preconditioned the battery by navigating to a Supercharger for 10-15 minutes. That will give you optimal performance if you have enough SOC. A Tesla Model Y Performance typically does the 1/4 in less than 12 seconds. It is absurd that you are running so slow in yours. That really misrepresents what this car is capable of.
@@LearningFast I say the same thing about the ev6 gt it runs the 1/4 in 11.3 11/4 easy but he did say the tires on the ev6 suck
PLEASE list the SoC already with EVs! It makes a huge difference.
@@bigdi77 yes, both of these cars weren’t performing like they should that is true. However, they actually put the EV6 into the optimal mode. They put the Model Y in the worst mode. I wish they would just ask people how to test these cars properly. It looks so bad when they post absurdly slow times.
This Kia EV6-GT could give the M.B. EQE a hard time. That way I can say mercedes is overpriced in the EV space
Honestly surprised this style of race/test hasn't become more popular. Wish y'all could do them more often.
I agree. This is the first that I'm watching a U drag race, but I already prefer it over the standard quarter mile drag. I think both should be done
They must have patented the concept. Intellectual property....... probably
I’m sure you’ve seen 2 Fast 2 Furious.. “First one to go down and back wins”
You guys should do this test more often. It's a great way to compare performance relatively easily. Would love to see the EV6 gobble up more competition
EV6 GT FTW. I had a Model 3P, my fiancé has a Y, and now I have an EV6 GT. The GT is my favorite EV currently available for a few reasons. Charging speed is insane, ride quality is so much better than any Model Y or Model 3 thanks to the adaptive dampers, it’s reasonably priced compared to any other car offering the insane performance it has, active rear differential makes a huge difference when you drive it hard on a curvy road, and it has so much more stuff that Tesla doesn’t offer like a heads up display, cross traffic detection, real blindspot monitoring, CarPlay and Android Auto, adaptive dampers, sport seats, an actual sunroof, and it’s just simply more enjoyable to drive or be a passenger in. I love the V2L abilities, too. The rear 110V outlet is useful for charging laptops or other devices, and you can even power things like a microwave with the V2L adapter.
Did the Kia dealer markup the price for you?
@@OrphanSocksI just got a GT too. No markups. I was able to get one for over 13K off!
@@volcalstonewhat did your price come out to if you don't mind me asking? Did you lease or finance and what do your payments look like? I'm checking out a local dealer and I want to see how much others are paying for their GT!
@@ethan5902 it was a little over $50K before taxes and $3K down. I wanted to lease only cause it's an EV. That guaranteed residue value is vital in case they decide to lower the price big time later like what Telsa did a year ago. 2 years only as the MF was better. My payment is around $550. If I would've gotten this car a year ago the payments would've been around $1K or so cause there were no deals and markups were still a thing. For the price I can't complain. If I love it enough in 2 years I will be keeping it tho. At the end I could've done better but I didn't want to spend anymore time on it as the price was fine to me. I sure now there are better deals to be had. Goodluck and if you end up getting one you won't be disappointed. 😊
@@volcalstone thank you!
Fun Fact: Tesla’s Track Mode is the single worst thing you can do for Straight-line acceleration. It will cool the battery off and consume power unnecessarily. A cold battery destroys straight line acceleration for the Tesla Model 3/Y. It is meant for road course driving where prolonged accelerations and decelerations will cause extreme motor/battery heating. This short run you are doing barely heats the battery at all. Also Track Mode does absolutely nothing for Traction with the wheel straight. It doesn’t affect handling unless you are turning the wheel. You crippled the Tesla unnecessarily by putting it in Track Mode.
💯
that is 100 percent correct i run 11.9s consistently
@@letdothisman1139 I checked the Dragy leaderboard and there were plenty of people with sub 12 second 1/4 mile times. I don’t know why Edmunds made theirs so slow?
@@letdothisman1139 ev6 run 11.3 on the draggy app from two drivers
@@bigdi77 yes, that is correct. However, they setup the EV6 correctly and it didn’t perform well. They intentionally put the Model Y in the worst mode possible for acceleration. I just want to see them test them fairly.
Both of those cars are fantastic. Glad to see Tesla getting some competition.
I think the Polestar 2 could give the MYP a run also. And it is ICE based abd shares with Volvo XC40.
There is no competition Tesla is trash
@bamafam he is bringing the new 2024 Model 3 Performance that has the "Plaid" code (T like tri motor) in its VIN.
It's most probably not tri motor but a big step up in power, brakes, tires seats and visual identity with wide body kit and a badge (plaid?)
The next Model 3 Performance is supposed to have an additional 250 hp added to it.
@@mocheen4837the 2023 version has over 100bhp more than this version! Not sure why they’ve used the old one on this race?!
That Kia is a beast and I have a model Y long range that feels fast. Nice match up!
Yeah agreed. MYP owner here and my car blows my mind how fast it is.. seeing that EV6 eat it's lunch had my jaw dropped!
I like the EV6 GT a lot, but the Tesla is about $10K less expensive and it has about 50% more range than the EV6. Also, the EV6 probably has dealer markups which makes cost delta even larger.
The Tesla is actually $45k vs the EV6 $62k as the Tesla qualifies for a $7.5k tax credit in the US while the Korean does not.
@@philippeferreiradesousa4524look clown. You’re referencing a price for an entirely different model y. The car is 53k but to have the same Highway driving autonomy it needs the $6k autopilot tacked on
@@mattbrew11 Look clown, the 6k option is for enhanced autopilot, all Teslas come standard with basic autopilot for highways. And also no, the Model Y Performance starts at around 45k, so even with the 6k option is still cheaper than the kia. Hell you could buy the 12k FSD option and it would still be cheaper
@@mattbrew11 Basic autopilot is included in all Teslas and is comparable to Kia’s Highway Driving Assist doing traffic-aware cruise control + autosteer.
The $6k option you mention is Enhanced Autopilot that let’s the car route you through highway on-ramp / off-ramp, automatic lane changes, navigating interchanges and taking exits + autopark and summoning the car while outside
You can get an EV6 GT over here for nearly the same price as the Tesla now, and range isn’t actually that far apart. I normally get 240-260 miles a charge on my GT. I even do a GT mode launch maybe once every other day. It’s a great car!
120mph trap from that Kia is MOVING.
Stop using track mode for Tesla drag races. This has been proven to make the vehicle's performance in drag races worse. Just charge to 100%, precondition the battery, put it in sport mode, and floor it.
Knowing Edmunds, wouldn’t surprise me the Model Y SOC was at 30% like all their other Tesla races. Model Y Performance 1/4 mile should be in the high 11.
@@tvbi it was at 91 percent at the start of race 1 according to the race 1 prep portion. And I also agree the race should be attempted with track mode off.
Just insane that both of these run of the mill EVs are faster than an RSQ8 on this mix of handling and straight line test. Insane. New age for sure.
Definitely a new age!
@@edmundscars If this is the "future," we clearly have gone wrong somewhere in time and we have to go back. These cars are lame, boring and exhibit zero personality.
@@TheMrRichard Agreed. EVs are just personal transportation appliances.
@@MidnightAspecyou haven't driven one have you? Ignoramus
Also pretty rich coming from someone driving a Civic with a bodykit lmao
@@jasper5097 you mad?
3 year old tesla vs new kia????
I love the adjusted format of these u-drag videos. Good job 👍🏽
Huge power difference but the Tesla still did well. That Kia is fast!
I looked at buying the EV6 GT and ending up going with the EV6 GT-Line AWD. Reason being was range and comfort. The EV6 Gt-Line is plenty fast at 0-60 in a little over 4 seconds and it has much more comfortable seats that are not manually adjusted like the GT and it gets about 275 mile in range and looks just as good and is very comfortable to drive.
That's the one I bought for those same reasons. GT is a track car. Not practical for everyday driving unless you don't drive much.
@@GTownSingerHow is it not practical for everyday driving? This is not a track car, it’s a very fast, comfortable crossover. I have one and I use it for everything - and it works perfectly fine. I find the seats to be very comfortable. It’s the first car I have owned that does not give me a sore butt after 1.5-2 hours of driving. Who cares if they’re manual, I have never understood that complaint. The ride in Eco or Normal is firm, but not uncomfortable at all. I also get way better range than the EPA rating. Nothing wrong with the standard EV 6, but this thing is a bullet and I love it.
@michaelc2254 the range sucks and the fact that for the price you don't get ventilated or powered seats was a deal breaker for me. The GT-LINE is the best trim and most features for the price. And plenty fast. Hardly ever use it in sport mode. But if you are looking for a track car or race people at every stop light lol, then it makes sense to choose the GT. Glad we both enjoy our cars. KIA ain't playin with these beotches.
@@GTownSinger The range on mine doesn’t suck at all. The last time I charged to 100% my projected range was 299 miles..and I find the range projection to be quite accurate. I drive mostly in Normal mode with enough GT blasts to keep me happy. I have been shocked at the range I’ve been getting.
@michaelc2254 I'm curious what is your mile per kw average?
I picked up a Model Y Performance earlier this year. Really considered the EV6 GT. I like the look significantly better of the Kia, also honestly the interior too and some of the options there. Though the Tesla is $10k cheaper, far better storage, far better range, far better charging network (at least for now). I mean it's really hard to not go with the Y at just a drop slower but still ridiculously fast.
I don't trust Kia's tech or their practices of cutting corners to offset the cost of loading the car up and making it feel well appointed inside. I also trust Tesla to do tech better than a car company can do tech.
I wonder if KIA is even profitable with their EVs?
@@sooperman12You say the Kia cut corners and praise Tesla? 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
Glad you like your vehicle. But would disagree with your points. Many will have chargers at home so the charging network will be less of an issue and the Kia actually charges faster than the Tesla (10~80% in 18 min and it might be ~20 min in the Tesla). Having all of your buttons and features in a screen is insane and less safe, the build quality on Teslas are notoriously shoddy, no heated and cooled seats, the inability to shade the moonroof is such a massive design flaw. Yes, styling is subjective, and I study design/auto design and find the Tesla Model Y to be one of the worst looking vehicles (Not quite Aztek bad, but not far off the Accord Crosstour, BMW X6..). Many find the Tesla Model Y ride to be too harsh as well whereas the Kia has the Goldilocks ride. As long as you enjoy it, good for you.
To add to my previous comment, others have also added the Kia has a heads up display, cross traffic detection, real blindspot monitoring, CarPlay and Android Auto, adaptive dampers, sport seats, an actual sunroof...the list goes on. But the styling of the styling of the Tesla Model Y always reminded me of a dolphin for whatever reason. The Model S isn't bad, but everything in Tesla's lineup isn't inspiring and I find the interior to be of poor quality and lazy design. I mean seriously, just slap a screen on the dash and call it a day. It's actually quite awful...
Quit doing drags in track mode, you’re making it slower.
I made the right choice with my EV6 GT purchase. Would like to see this race against the Model 3 Performance
The kia would most certainly lose.
@@Tony-jo9qr What makes you say that? The quarter between them is less than .5 seconds and the Kia has better pull at the top end
Depends on if they run the Teslas right I guess. I don’t know what they are doing with their MYP but those results are very slow. My 23 MYP runs consistent 11.7’s in the 1/4 in stock form. Most of the M3P’s when properly set up run 11.4-11.3 in stock form.
Not a good choice in my opinion if you consider everything. Considerably more expensive than the Model Y and the Model Y has much better range than the GT and a way better charging network. Better software/ UI. At the end of the day a tiny bit faster isn't worth the shortcomings of the EV6. I will say that the EV6 is cooler looking style wise though
@@James-sb4geSame on my 2023 MYP…not sure what they’re doing!
Did you guys bring the split screen down in ev settings and click on Max power mode and allow the ev6 gt to be pulling the full 576 as most reviewers have not done this and dont realise they are not getting the full power even when pressing GT. You dont want it to be spinning too much as it will slow you down and also regen needs ot be zero.
In case anyone was wondering, the price given for the Model Y is out of date, you can pick up a new one for $52k vs $61k for the Kia
The Tesla is $45K as it qualifies for the $7.5k US tax credit while the made in Korea EV6 does not
@@philippeferreiradesousa4524 sure, but that's a slightly misleading basis for comparison without qualification because not everyone qualifies for the credit either because their income is too high or too low (meaning they don't pay enough tax for the offset to work), hence I just went with list price. But definitely for a lot of people the Tesla is even cheaper, as you say
Nope, current GT price has come down to $53k.
@@JohnLee-db9zt that's not true. The GT-Line starts from $53k but that's not the car shown here (and it only has 225hp and 258lb-ft torque). The GT AWD shown here starts from $61k
@@philippeferreiradesousa4524leasing the Kia everyone qualifies for the $7500 as Kia passes 100% on. Tesla passes some. A bare bones Y performance would only be $4000 less leasing over 4 years even though it costs $9k less initially.
So, many Tesla fan boys said that Model Y will be faster than Kia EV6 GT.
Now, Tesla fan boys said that Model Y is cheaper.
What is a coward.
The current price for a Model Y Performance starts at $ 52.490 while the KIA EV6 GT starts at $ 61.600.
With much less range as well...
No the ev6 gt is 53k
Lol you are wrong.
@@rashad123usactual EV6 owners are getting up to 300 miles. Unlike Tesla which overestimates range, Hyundai/Kia underestimate their range.
@@JohnLee-db9zt when Tesla owners lose a race they will move the goalpost by saying range this and range that but I am getting 250 miles on my gt that’s why I just 😂
As a Model Y Performance owner, I think Hyundai/Kia has done what most other traditional companies still miss on. They produce a vehicle that was built for EV and continue to improve on it. The new Hyundai Ionic 5 N is absolutely mind-blowing for a Korean car.
You're comparing a 2023 Kia EV6 GT against a 2020 Model Y? Considerable improvements have been made since the 2020 model. Lets keep it fair and match it against a 2023 Model Y. The Model Y 2023 Performance is considerably cheaper by about $10,000 than the 2023 Kia. Its not just about performance either. The model Y has considerably more cargo capacity at 72 cu. ft versus 50.2 for the Kia. And a very paltry and disappointing EPA estimated range of 218 miles versus Model Y EPA estimated 303 miles.
Cope, Tesla got beat by a Kia 😅😂
It is $17k cheaper thanks to the $7.5 US tax credit for made-in-America cars
@@philippeferreiradesousa4524Not everybody gets the full 7.5k credit. It all depends on your tax liability.
I love my ev6 wind. Have owned it 2 years. Still get excited to drive it each day!
EV6 GT is a sharp looking car. Def better looking than the model Y in my opinion, but I've seen the Y perform much better than the time shown. Usually in the low 12s and for the 10k saving in price over the Kia its a no brainer. You could also save more and get a model Y long range with Acceleration boost and be as fast as the Y if not faster and save another 3-4k.
We are looking forward to testing the performance of the IONIQ5 N, which is more advanced than the EV6 GT.
Way more advanced
That Model Y is 3 years old. Is the 2023 Model Y faster or roughly the same?
Easy win for the Kia. That gap would get even wider as the charge decreases. Kia is one of the very few EV's that doesn't lose performance when the battery goes down.
Also if he didn’t turn traction control completely off on the ev6
That model Y price is severely outdated
Why some review say MYP has 460hp other say its 534hp?
MAN I LOVE U-DRAGZ
Not only quick but better looking. I can't believed a kia is better than a tesla.
Both of these cars are true sleepers 😮. I really love the styling of the Kia. The Tesla itself has more of a sporty SUV look which I also love ❤️.
See an EV6 GT in person with those big yellow calipers and you can tell its sporty. I had one beside me the other day and was impressed, Between that and the Stinger KIA deserve some cred.
My European 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance is 534hp and 660nm Torque, that would be a more fair test 🥸
Within the first few seconds, and I'm like jeez, look at the swirls in the Kia paint 😆
Within the first few seconds I saw a Tesla get gapped by a Kia
@@TonyStone3000 I would hope so, with that much more power in a lighter vehicle.
@@AutoXerWgn610 The Kia is 374 lbs heavier.
@@BhutJolokias That’s what I get for believing the first thing that came up when I tried to google it.
I got the same car and same color no swirls in my paint
Great race! Please do the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N when it comes out soon.
Yessss
I think the Ioniq 5 N will murder both.
@biglee13m you ain't telling no lies bro
We’ll see what we can do!
Noooooo!! Don't do it!! Then I will need to trade my EV6 GT!
We need more manufacturers provoking Tesla to wake them back up. I need to see a Tesla performance division like an AMG.
They need to make an official trim partnered with unplugged performance or something
They keep with a car that is around 30k more expensive so is more than enough
Plaid?
The model Y is 30k cheaper. The model Y is a bigger car and is lighter... not a fair comparison. The model Y also has much more range.
There is a Ludicrous Model 3 coming.
A U-drag isn't a U-drag without a Honda Fit. Base Mini Cooper vs Fit...yep, that should be next. 🍿🍿
Fun runs. I am eager to see the Tesla Model S Plaid with the track pack run here. 😎Maybe against the Porsche Taycan "Turbo" S, or the BMW M5 CS. 🥳
Knowing Edmunds, wouldn’t surprise me the Model Y SOC was at 30% like all their other Tesla races. Model Y Performance 1/4 mile should be in the high 11.
91% as could be seen at 1:21
Hi @tvbi, love your eye for detail. When the cars run they’re always close to full charge. We shoot a lot of the launch control close-up shots of the dash separate to the race.
@edmundscars But then you run it in Track Mode, which is proven to perform slower when it comes to drag races. You didn't precondition the battery, which gives it a significant improvement in performance. If you are going to pit two vehicles in a performance race, actually put both vehicles in their best settings.
@@PerformanceRaven you need a hug
it's a shame that Kia can only do like 200 miles per charge...
One of the designers said it was done on purpose. Something about keeping the weight down and also keeping fast charging times. 10% to 80% in 18 minutes. Of course, only if you can find the right fast charger.
So you work 100 miles away from home? Because it charges quickly so range isn't an issue.
Mimimi 😂
@@erickirshner2810 I dont necessarily disagree, but remember the EPA rates range on a combined city/highway cycle, so if traveling purely on the highway range will be potentially 10-20% less.
@@ALMX5DP I have one and I get way better range than the EPA rating. On the highway if I keep it at 70 or lower I have gotten 250+ miles per charge. Around town I get close to 300. If you drive with a lead foot the range will go down, but the car is capable of very good range if driven a little conservatively. And GT mode will push your eyeballs back in your head. I love the car.
Both nice cars. I prefer the Y for a few reasons, cost being one of them. Currently, the Y Performance is $43 ($51k-$7500 at purchase) and 1.99% financing (.99 when I purchased). The EV6 is not $20k better to me.
The EV6 would have been quicker if you would have just used GT mode with stability control turned on. You lost a lot of time spinning the tires at launch.
And having the regen set to off or 0. I see this a lot with these tests, they have ipedal or level 3 regen on. I don't know how much it effects it, but it can't help.
Why is this cross-over body style so popular now? For $60k I want a car that is at least somewhat decent looking.
The ev6 looks amazing. Go and check it out in person.
How would a 2023 Model Y Performance have fared against the 2023 Kia EV6 GT?
This! It was stupid to run a 3 year old Tesla!
Strange results from the Model Y performance. Granted, the EV6 still would win with that 120 mph trap speed, but 11.9 at 115 is typical for a model Y performance at full charge. Now, the Tesla is very susceptible to lower performance the lower the battery charge is... I wonder what the state of charge of the Model Y performance was at the time of the test?
But EV6 doesn’t care what state of charge it’s in. It still performs the same. So either way the Tesla loses.
It's on a concrete runway not a prepped drag strip. There are lots of EV6 drag times faster too. Same day, same surface the Kia is just quicker.
You were saying how much better the Tesla did in the U-turn corner section, but didn't you still have 10% traction control on the Tesla (their minimum I think you said) whereas you completely turned off all stability and traction on the GT... the GT would be better in the corner with those enabled...
Alistair - no way that Model Y is 456bhp. No way. Stick it on a dyno and report back!
Here in Austria on Teslas website they state 540 hp
What kind of turn in was that for both cars on race two lol. One went deep and the other apex'd so early. Either way, pretty cool. Glad to see other manufacturers do something with EV's that aren't trash.
This is why Tesla needs to update their motor, it’s been years using the same motor. Luckily it looks like a new performance model 3 is coming that’s even faster then the previous model 3 performance, which would translate to a new model y performance coming soon as well.
They constantly upgrade the motors, what are you talking about? This race had more to do with driver ski😮ll
@@Victor-vj5ds where do they constantly upgrade? Cause it’s definitely not in the performance department. The EV6 GT is faster hands down, off the line. You can get the best driver In the world for both cars and GT would still win. This just goes to show you competition is good and that Tesla is finally waking up and upgrading their motors for the next model 3 performance and eventually model y. Because they didn’t have true competition for years, they barely focused on upgrading their performance.
@T3chAndThings teslas carbon wrapped motor they use for the plaid drive train and Tesla semi truck offer superior performance than what the EV6 uses. It goes 0-60 in 2.1 seconds with rollout and 1.9 seconds without. The plaid can also hit 200mph in 21 seconds. Tesla recently upgraded its motors for the mode y thats smaller, more efficient, and cheaper to make.
@@Victor-vj5ds you do know we are talking about model 3 and y here, to the EV6 right? Don’t compare the EV6 to the S, those are completely two different sized cars. And like I’ve stated before Tesla hasn’t updated their motors for better performance, and it shows here. That’s why I originally said the new model 3 performance will finally be faster because of a new motor.
@T3chAndThings i just told you that the model y just got an upgrade for its motors, they are lighter and more efficient, that is part of preformance, their were upgrades in the last few years for the modelby and 3.
Couldn’t get a 2023 Model Y? Or is it the same as the 2020?
How did the MYP go from $52,490 actual MSRP to $68,790 price as tested?
For $53k, you can get either the MYP or the EV6 Wind, not EV6 GT, so you should compare those 2 models. See what a Tesla can do for $53k, see what Kia can do for the same $53k.
Add FSD, red paint, white seats, tow hatch - voila!
That's whith the Gov scam rebate, most Tesla parts are made in China,
I just bought my Kia EV6 GT for $53k out the door. The days of the Kia dealer markups are thankfully over
I recently tinted a ev6 and all I could think about was,this damn car would smoke my c5 corvette.lol.
Why is Edmunds testing against a 4 year old Model Y? Tesla upgraded the rear motor to one with hairpin windings since then. And why do they not show the current price for the Model Y Performance ($52,490)? I would say the current price is more relevant than what they might have paid years ago. Love the EV6 GT, but if you’re going to compare cars, do it right with up to date information and models.
Can't wait for the 911 Turbo S U drag!!!
Me in an EV Porsche that is already being tested and is supposed to dominate the Nürburgring. But it's not coming until 2027
Cheaper but Faster! Obviously Tesla has much better technology going on their cars than KIA, but KIA is truly impressive.
KIA has come a long long way.
Where do you all do this test? What state is it in?
Model Y is only a little slower but it has 100 miles of range more than the EV 6 gt
Kia 0-60=3.1secs Tesla 0-60=3.5secs that's a gap.
Quite a lot slower.
A lot slower sorry
100 more miles? Glad that traded my Genesis coupe for MYP, all because I got tired of waiting for the EV6GT… also Tesla cheaper!
It doesn't have 100 miles more. Go on cars and driver and see. It as 40 miles difference real life.
Great performance from the Kia. I still would never buy one for a whole list of reasons. They did a good job bench marking the MYP. The new performance models from Tesla are just a few months away. It will be interesting to see how Tesla responds to the benchmarking.
New MYP? Where have you heard that? Model 3 is not comparable.
The Ioniq 5N is already in production. It will be in the $60-65k range. Tesla won’t be able to compete.
I have a Model 3 Performance and just ordered a Model Y Performance for the wife. The December price drop was significant enough for us to make it appealing to purchase one. After discounts and the tax rebate it ended up being $42,000. This is a big drop in price from last year when my cousin paid $65,000.
Fisker Ocean provides the best driving dynamics of all EVs currently on the market.
Have you heard of the Hyundai Ioniq 5N that is currently in production?
Never in my life did I think I’d ever see a stock 11s Kia. 😂
You’ll see a stock 10 sec Hyundai soon (Ioniq5N).
I really miss my Kia EV6 GT-LINE 😢 I had and accident that totaled the car and the shop had my car for 14 months and they just totaled it out early last month I had the same color and everything I was tempting to get the Tesla Y model but now I think I'll get another Kia EV6 GT-LINE 2023. 😂😂😂. That is after Kia Dealership pays me for going past the statute of limitation with my vehicle🤨🤨🤨
Thank you for swapping cars and lanes. An excellent review between to comparable vehicles.
Our pleasure!
Another great video. How the Model Y ties in time with the Dodge Black Ghost is head scratching. I know Dodge is strong in straight line vs curves but feel that something was not right. Those cars are sunsetting but still this Dodge is a beast which should’ve had lower/better times in this type of race.
Impressive how both of them beat the Audi RSQ8 which costs a lot more
Ioniq 5N, which was recently released in Korea
I'm looking forward to it.
I'll take the KIA
Same
Also for now unique it is…I see more Model 3s and Model Ys on the road than civics now
I'll pick any Korean products
That will get stolen to easily.😂
@@chrgav1286 nope ,i never heard any more kias getting stolen recently ,kia has solved that bullshit. these new kias wont get stolen my friend
Should have been the M3P to make it fair.
"doesn't brake as well as the tesla"
didn't know that was possible. thought *every* car brakes better than a tesla
do you own a Tesla?
I have a feeling that Musk won't let this happen again in the rematch. The best thing about this U-Drag was no redundant POV at the end. More U-Drags please.
I have a feeling Hyundai won’t care what Musk will come up with because they just launched the Ioniq 5N. 😂
MYP price is $54,000.00 do you knew
Elon wanted this, Motor, interior, and body update is needed for the Model Y. I have a 2021 Model Y and I’m jelly! 😭😂🤣 Good job Kia!
It is impossible to find the EV6 GT (576 hp) variant!
I mean was there ever a challenge for the ev6 gt,model y got smoked
Do we question racing a 2020 vs a 2023?
Been passed the time for you guys to add a Speedo for each lane.
Still the best format, but I wish we could see some more exciting vehicles.
Would be nice to see the top speed before braking.
Did you use max power output mode on the Kia? It’s on the split screen display and above 70% SOC preheats the battery for max performance
EV6 is nicer looking, clearly faster which is a given. People generally don’t consider the the fact the Model Y is a 2019 car (released in 2020 but developed before then.) generally competitors use the competition as a baseline in their development. Y is just dated at this point. Needs an update.
The Tesla software is still far superior, but it’s awesome to see Kia actually have a huge competitor. Respect.
As a former Kia E Niro owner I went to purchase a EV6, but the dealer had NONE, wanted an outrageous markup on it to order, and even wanted + sticker for a GT line model. I purchased a MY performance and couldn’t be happier, the purchase experience was fantastic even for a n old guy like me. And the charging experience vs non teslas is no comparison. The Kia was definitely more stylish, and has a more traditional interior but as my everyday commuter the Tesla is miles ahead with range and charging convenience. If I want driver involvement I will take my Porsche GT4 out of the garage.
Ok
i wonder/hope the kia is reliable and good build quality. my sister has a 2019 kia sorento that already leaks or burns oil with under 100k
Lol anything is better quality than a Tesla.
Finally the right Tesla against the EV6 GT, and not the Model 3.
Can we PLEASE get a Zl1 1LE udrag before it’s gone??
I was wrong lol
Try dual motor with acceleration boost
70k out the door in 4 years time to buy another one for 70k
You’ve got to use regen set to 0, and some even say drift mode on as well for the Kia. There’s a good bit of KW not accessible to you unless regen is off.
Trackmode is no go when doing drags
so little emphasis on a very important point...
"they've introduced track mode - which came as an OTA update "
this matters!
about same weight, but OVER 100hp difference...WHY would anybody dragrace in those conditions?
why test and OLD tesla against a new kia ?
the 2023 performance Y has more HP than 4xx
To be fair, I think you should use current Tesla pricing when comparing.
Why are you testing a Tesla from 2020 against kia ev6 2023?
I'm confiused.. You say "the tires on the EV6 are not as grippy" - Isn't it usually delivered with Michelin Pilot Sport S - basically the best you could get?
You also say "the brakes on the EV6 are not as good" - it was tested from 100km/h to zero in 32 meters - which is top notch. Do you have a differently spec'd version?
Mine came with awful Goodyear Eagle F1 tires.
@@torontobeachliving8719 awful? While I have the Pilot Sport S on the Kia (as it was shipped with those and I really like em), I got Eagle F1 Asymmetrics an all my other cars, which I love. It's my favorite summer tire for eating tarmac. But maybe it's different with EV-style tires?
Kia's default winter tire was Pirelli Scorpion Winter 2. Slightly wet streets and off you go... Swapped em after 500km with Bridgestone 255/40 R21 102V XL EVc (Wi) Blizzak LM 005 - really happy with those so far. Even tire noise is much better with the Blizzaks (the Scorpions were noticeably louder than the Pilot Sport S - ok, winter tires are usually louder then summer ones, but I didn't notice a difference between the Pilot Sport S and the Blizzak).
IMHO it's always a bad sign if a tire is marketed with "low fuel consumption" as this usually goes hand in hand with "low grip".
9:30 you should do another race when something like this happens. The numbers mean nothing if the driver is “sleeping” at the line.
This is "Y" tesla is working on a new high end model 3 (eventually a model y) the competition in terms of performance has arrived!
This is a bit misleading. The Kia is a 2023 and the tesla is a 2020. The price of a 2023 model Y performance is under $55k unless you add FSD. Whether malice or shoddy reporting, this calls into question everything you publish.